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We are continuing on with our vacation episode. That's right. So I
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We thought it. You guys needed to still have fresh new shows. So
here we go again, new topic, new day. You guys, ready
for it. You're ready for it. I'm ready, born ready. He's
like, oh, I was born ready. So here's one of those things
that always comes around on this show because we had to talk about it because craziness ensues and then I'm curious on your guys's input. So idiot drivers,
they're everywhere, right, we can all agree upon there, they're everywhere.
Yes they are. Can maybe get me started with it. So speed limits
signs? So am I right? He's like, speed limit signs? Am
I? Right? Left lane's the fast lane? I mean it's a fast
lane. Right lanes the slow lane, and the far right lane. We're
taught you how do you use supposed to get in the far right except for only at certain times? Right camera? Yeah, so yeah, you bring
it. It's only been and I'm billing that one to you. All right,
you're getting that one. I'm billing that one to you. So I
don't know. Here's one of the questions that we've asked before and I got
some weird feedback from it, and is do you think that it would like behoove us as like a nation to at some point in time make people to go back and just recap and take like just like a road test every once in a while, just to freshen up on things. I'm not I'm not
saying like, hey, we're gonna take your driver's license away from you.
So like maybe like every so many years, Hey man, you just need to go recap or something to take an improvement class, just like you got, Hey, go take an improvement class, Like you need to go do something like refresh up on like the rule somehow, do something like I'm leting people forget. I don't know, I will say in to day's time,
yes, I would say prior back then, no. And I feel like
that's probably why we don't have that today because technology is growing faster and faster each year, okay, and there's new things in cars that some people just don't understand or don't know how to work. Okay, And I feel like
that's something that people should probably take consideration, why, especially with you know, autonomous cars coming into the market as well. Okay, So here's something
that we used to do back in the day. So we did car from
miliarization, Like we put somebody in their car, set them down, and then like make them like walk through everything in their car. Go do you
know how everything in this car works. You know, many people we found
out they had no idea how everything in their car work. Or they've been
driving the car for like six seven years and they have no idea how the stuff in their car works. Like they just know I get in, I
turn the key, I drive. But like some of the functionality, like
they have no idea how the windshore wiper spray in their car, or they didn't like certain things. I'm like, so like the blinkler fluid Joe.
Oh, by the way, those plastic covers that are just covering your engine or plastic they just pop off. Okay, really, because I know somebody's
missing one off their engine that's been missing it for six months, that has no clue and it's still sitting in my garage. I want to say,
my battery one? Is it your one? My battery one? No,
it's the whole top inc take cover of your car's been off for six months.
So I opened at my engine. Bait a minute, And this is
what I'm telling you about car guys. People are into cars, and listen,
haven't the hood and six months just take a peek around, go, hey, how's that belt doing, how's that host doing? Wait, it
was less than six months ago. I just didn't open it. I had
one of my nap bishops open because I know, I'm just saying so, but I'm not talking about a book test either, guys, Just so we understand where I'm coming from. I'm not talking about a book test. I'm
saying behind the wheel, just recap and have somebody just critique some of the things you do when you drive. Maybe some of your skills aren't as sharp
as you think they are already Moore, I have maybe maybe you should have a book test though, there's like those new signs coming out and take your driver's license. Well, it's not it's not taking your jars. It's just
it's improvement class. You're improving. You go to class to improve on what
you don't know. Maybe you forgot right, or you forgot you forgot because
of those new rules coming out all the times coming out of the house, and you know, are you going to McDonald's, Are you going to the house. But you know what I'm saying, like things are changing to the
point where some people aren't always in the news, so they don't know the new things are coming out. Okay, no, no, And I'm and
I'm like, I said, I'm right there with you because I can't.
I've had so many people left hand lane for some reason inside they need to go right far right to take a right hand turn, and they're just stop, coming to complete stop and just stop because they want to awesome to decide they want to go right in the right hand turn, and then they don't want five they don't want to miss it, so they just dead stop, lock up the brakes and wait and turns turn on their blurned signal. They're
blurned. They turn on that blurned signal because they want to blend into traffic.
So it's a blurned signal. It's not a it's not a turned signal,
burn because they want to blend. Blinker no, no blurn, no
burning, because they're they're they're trying to blend into traffic. So it's the
blurn signal. You let me know when that's try that one. I'm gonna
try to get that one to be used. Now it's burn. Doesn't get
past and they just stop and they just sit and everybody slam on the brakes because people are trying to keep from hitting them. And now I'm in this
lane, I'm like holy cow, is they try to come in front of me? So I got some of my brakes. I gotta hurry. I
hope that somebody behind me doesn't hit me. It happens all the time.
I'm like, in what world did they think? What they just try to
do? It's okay? And how did And now I'm not I'm not mad.
It's not that I'm upset. I am generally concerned for my safety.
They're safety. The people slam on the brakes and people are trying to swerve
around and keep from getting hit. And I've watched accidents happen because of it.
I've almost been hit because of it as I'm trying to get out of the way. So I just tell people forget what was that a couple of
days ago we were going on the highway. Now, I was like,
you can tell people who uses this exit frequently and who doesn't, right, because they know the flow and so I won't say the exit, just parkway, you know, so you know what I'm talking? Yes, okay,
right right, yeah, okay. I don't understand because it happens every single
day, Like you think people would learn. But the lane is all the
way backed up onto the Highway and the people that use the road so many times knows there's a second lane that kicks out right and you come around all the cars and everybody's like looking at you like crazy, and then you you wonder why, well not like that, you wonder why was I able to do that? And I'm also the number one car at the stop light,
like why did it all those other into that lane? Before you were born,
that that off ramp had that same problem because I used to live that was the off ramp to guitar our house before you guys were born, Zach, when you're talking about, yeah, we used to live down there before you guys were born, and that it was the same problem back then because I used to go down and get to the left hand lane because of the very first light right there where the fast food place is now closed, I made that left hand turn to go that way, Okay, yeah, And it was the same problem back then. So I told me, I was
like, you know, they designed this as like overflow, like if you see that it's coming, that starting to get over, but nobody uses that lane, correct me. And then you have the people that do the twenty
five and the forty fives and then you have the people that don't know how to put on blinkers that I want to throw blinkers at. I don't know,
it's it's it's one of those things that you just then you have officers on the side. I see. I truly think that if we just had
recap driving class, we just went to a driving class, you got behind the wheel with competent instructures, go hey, you know you really ought to maybe don't do that no more. You maybe out of turn, Yeah,
maybe you need to turn on your signal way before you decide to do that to let people know what you're doing. Or hey, you don't even use
your turn signals, like you really should be using them. Just a reinstructor
class, because I think we're here's another thing. I don't want to be
that guy that says it, but like I think there's a certain age that maybe people should like not be driving. But who tells them, Like who's
gonna be the one to say, hey mom, hey dad, hey whatever, Uh, you know, maybe it's time you stopped driving and we start like putting you in ride share or something, you know what I mean?
Like, right, I could look get it a ride share out here for Grandma. Somebody should be having that conversation you know what I mean, like
you have you have you have to have that conversation where you say okay, like you know what I mean like that? Who has that conversation. You
don't do by age. You just do by test. If you can't understand
the test or you fail it and stuff, maybe you should have not have a linsense. I don't. I don't. I okay, maybe I'm just
too nice. I don't want to be the one who is the one going
okay, I got to test you and see if you can pass this.
I don't want it for that purpose. I want it for the purpose of
re education. But somebody at some point has to have the conversation with somebody,
Like everybody, There's gonna be a point time I know where my kids are gonna approach being okay, Dad, you're gonna have to probably give keys like it's just that time. I already know you're gonna say. And that
time is gonna happen to you guys when you guys get to a certain age, And there would probably would have been a time that I would have had to have that conversation with my dad. You know what I mean. So
Dad, it's time to hand over the trans am. We've see we're not
talking about trans and we're talking about every day driving. There's a difference between
two trans am sitting the garage and look pretty all by itself. I don't
need to hand you over the keys to it. So I don't want to.
But I'm just saying, like somebody has at some point, somebody had.
I feel like there's nobody's being responsible. I see people behind the wheel.
I'm not and I'm not I'm not discriminating by age, but I have seen people all the time that are hunched up behind that wheel, can barely see you at the top of that wheel. They're going thirty and a fifty
five, And I'm like, where the world set these people lose out onto the road or they're leaning like all the way up against the window. Look.
I understand they got to get places, and I get it, like, look, but there is transportation that could take you somewhere somehow where they are not putting themselves at risk. And then I see people that are thirty
three years old that shouldn't be out on the on the road, have no business being driving out on the road. I mean, it doesn't matter stage.
But that's why I say there's needs to be a reinstructing class every once in a while. You just take one, just refamiliarize yourself with things that
you may have gotten lazy in your driving activities and you're just not doing what you should be doing, and maybe you just need to recorrective class. I
mean, look, we go back in for retraining in things for work all the time. Work requires, and sometimes you go back through some re education
and retraining in our jobs. Why aren't we doing and driving? Because look,
I mean, I'm sure there's things that when I drive, I probably aren't doing it. Aren't even thinking about. If somebody a professional was looking
on and go, hey, do you realize you picked up this bad habit?
I go, oh, man, I no, I had no idea.
I wish there was level soil you can level up, like if this man wants to level up, Like if when an officer pulls you and they're like, sure, do you know how reckless you were? Oh? Your
your your master level never got a better one for you, sir? Do
you have any idea how fast you were driving? No, sir, I
did? I got you at one twenty Oh, what looks like you're a
level sixty and you captured the princess last time you place you have you have your twenty bonus points. It applies to it, So we knock that down,
subtrac twenty points from over the speed. You're good. I'm have to
let you go this time, sir, asking him, like, sir, what is the max? No, I'm not saying. Maybe that's how you
do you love a grand master? Okay, Like he was wrong reference anyway,
I like, I said you should reward young drivers, so for good for good, for good uh behavior for young drivers. I said that we
should give them points and then let them use those points and stuff like that, towards like taco bell and stuff like that. Remember we talked about that
before, Yeah we did. Maybe if we if you did all that,
you could actually go, yeah, you can actually take that and apply that in I thought that was a really good program. If we could get that
to work, it would be great. So I don't know. If anybody
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Hey, guys, welcome back. So you know I tell you you
can go from one topic to another. Ready, here's the next one.
Ready for this one thing? Oh you so you can't finish it because it'll
be copyrighted. But all right. So the craziest thing that a lot of
times comes across my desk and people ask you the question all the time, and I get these crazy conversations with people rather out at shows or comes into emails or Texas or when I'm into the forums and i'm cap communicate with people and we're talking about topics. Like I said, normally you're back at this
table for us to talk about self driving will never go away until people really figure out how they feel about it. But the one that loops around over
and over and over again is is we're are we really when it comes to self driving? Right right? So the new gauges out of how far out
really are we because people are always like, oh, we're like thirty years out, and then it was like, oh, well, maybe we're only like ten years out. Maybe we're five years out. We're only three years
out from this. So as you guys know, and if you don't know,
but most people do, self driving is already here. Okay, people
already have self driving cars, are using them all the time. You're just
if you don't live in certain areas, you're not seeing them all the time.
As we just learned through my experience of going through Acclamack County and my little court thing very new technology to them. Even as I explain how it
all works, they didn't really want to hear it, which is fine.
I'm over it. I was kind of over it before I went to court.
I kind of already thought how that was going to go. Oh,
I didn't think that. Did find out more about um underwhere about to side
tractors a little bit. But you know how we were talking about the printed
tickets right and we were one marine if everybody was coming out with it, you know, right, so there's no more mistakes. Yeah, right,
State troopers can't use them right now. State troopers cover every district. If
one district doesn't allow it, they can't use That makes sense because um so I found out that Norfolk is actually one of the areas that is against it, against it, yeah, basically keeping it where it can't go through.
And they had to start just because a right, okay, it makes sense.
Yeah. So when you have self driving setups and certain areas and counties
and stuff like that aren't used to because they don't see it on a day to day that causes a lot of problems. Other court systems and police officers
and stuff that or other areas that these things all the time are a little bit used to it. So as I was talking with some officers this weekend
and we were discussing self driving, they're like, well, you know, we see it a lot more. We're a lot more used to it.
So there, I would say their leniency and or understanding of the systems maybe a little bit different than other people's. Does that make sense? So that
puts us into you know, where are we? Well, the problem with
it is is the number one, the laws really aren't covering a lot of it statewide yet, So it leaves an officer to make the decision car side of how to deal with the system, of how the car works are all that kind of stuff. That's number one. They don't want to deal with
it. Well, then you're just at the mercy of that. How far
are we with technology? Well, the technology is out there, but the
technology is going to get deeper levels. Yeah, it's going to be in
levels. So if you go to say California, you see a lot of
self driving technology everywhere. So it's it's just everywhere. Well, and it's
the maximum to got cars now that you literally get in and they drive you like an new but that doesn't have a driver, right, absolutely, But you won't see that here because it's just not well yeah it's not it's not popular and it's not a test grounds. You know, California is worried it's
been going wrong for so long. You know, a lot of these automated
systems are kind of already prefabbed, mapped out. So Phoenix, California,
all that kind of stuff, you see a lot of it out in that area because that's where everybody's test on us, the test grounds for it.
They got hundreds of them out out there, are being used all the time, so it's it's natural to everybody. That's just everyday thing out there to
them. So the question, like I said, I get all the time,
is so really truly, how far are are we? Well, the
new numbers have come out and everybody's just kind of been playing around a little bit and they're like, okay, the realistic number now looks like we're gonna be right at close to ten years. When I mean ten years, ten
year years means it's normal happist stance. Now if you live out a little
bit out in the country like kind of like we do. I'm not gonna
say that you're gonna like, you know, pick up a phone and you know, boom, there's there's gonna be you know, self driving car rids.
You're excess ability and people are still by far going to be driving themselves around in ten years don't get me wrong, but in city settings and stuff like that, where you have denser areas of city and say, self driving cars are gonna be pretty normal. So the vision when you start talking to
so boring, it's gonna be so boring a couple years. You think so,
I think so. I mean, I think I think it's just a
little too simplistic. Right, So it's like it's like, you know,
when you get in a car and stuff, it's kind of like a joyful ride and self a scenery to absolute real Wise, Okay, you can't take all that away in automated fashion. I like looking at my passengers in the
rearview mirror and well, no, it's it's not just that. It's just
it's the feeling. Ye feel so creepy. It's more about just the feeling
of So when you're driving, are you just staring at the people that are in the back seat of your car? Oh? Sometimes, dude, sometimes
creepy? Is that because it's funny? Weird? Because it's funny. It
can be one the passenger looks up, sees that you're not paying attention to the It's like, why is that creepy? Right? This second? That
was like the creepiest moment have Like I can just I just envisioned myself sitting in Cameron's car in the back seat and he should be watching the road, and all of sudden, I look, I just happened to glance up from my phone and there's just Cameron's eyes staring at me in the mirror, making eye contact with How weird would that be? That would be a little weird.
Yeah, that's what I envisioned. When he said that, Yeah,
see he's got to think about it. He's like, guess that does happen.
But no, I was standing at three of you move so but no, Like I mean seriously, when you think about it and you're actually like really put around that, the envision for them is is just there's just cars and they're wandering the roads or they're sitting waiting for their next mission with no driver, just waiting on you and what you need. And so then there
was the deeper vision when you start talking about it, and some of the shows that we've gone to, the technology shows and stuff like that where we sat and talked about it is let's just say you you are a personal driver right right this second, right in ten years, you plan on retiring.
You're going to retire, but you're not going to retire, Okay, you're their Their envision is I'm going to retire, I'm call off the road and I'm gonna have more free time, but I my car is going to continue to work for me. This is their thought process, Like I'm going to
buy a car, and the car is advanced enough that they can continue to work for me. It's gonna go pick up passengers and continue to do my
job and net me income and I don't have to be in it. It's
just going to continue to be a work course in robot in the front that turns around. No, it's just a car. They can monitor the car
from home. The car goes and does what it's supposed to do passengers.
I see a certain point though, I feel like people won't own their own cars. But I feel like people that are trying to do that will do
it that they want to have a like a service like they're going to own.
That's what these people are envisioned. That is the now more I'm saying
those is that if you had like Hurts or all these you know, dealership wise that own all these cars, or you know, just do kind of a traveling service already and stuff. Once they buy all these automated cars and
they put it in service, what's the point of view owning your own you're talking about like airplanes? Well not no, not everybody like no, let
me like I'm talking about like any like talking about airplane companies, Like airplane companies. If you want to get somewhere really fast, you only got a
couple of companies to pick from, you know, and you're on an airplane.
So basically he's what it sounds like you're talking about is Hurt's Enterprise and all these other companies are gonna buy so many of those cars. Kind of
yeah, well, it's like they're gonna be able to send out that there's a lonely companies you're gonna be able to call to the point where it's not gonna be affordable or even profitable in a long in the long run. No,
it's just for people, not really not profitable. It's just it's almost
what's the point of owning it? As almost like in New York, right,
It's like there's no really point to own a car in New York because it's a crowded car personal parking and it's just easier to sometimes. So it's
like at a certain point, you know it's already expensive on a carna, it makes more sense to exactly just to walk and out. So it's like
or to have just the cars exactly. But when you have all these taxi
services and you have all these rent a car services and stuff. But here's
they ride the price down on that. The more you had, the price
scant to code. But the opposite way, yeah, let me but if
they if they turn all their fleet in electric cars and they do this surveys and stuff, it makes no point for you to go get a car and you think you're making money off it because these services already provide so many of the cars. So here's what's gonna happen. So you're gonna try. I
guarantee what's gonna have happened and is and and people have thought about this.
So let's just say I want to retire right right, and I want to buy my own car. Right, You're there's just gonna be an app.
I guarantee, somebody's just gonna make an app where it just finds the closest car or whatever and it just sends the information that car it doesn't care.
Rather, it's big corporation that in one's fifty billion cars or you own one car or whatever, and they're gonna make an app or it's gonna be just a complete cross the board. It just sends it out to whatever car.
That's what it's gonna be. I'll guarantee it and then it'll be an even
That's when you got into the that's when you come That's when you come into the game and you're like, okay, well, yes, you can go and get individuals like us cars, or you can go get the big corporations, which are then going to start doing like all right, every five rides, make the car come around one of our stopping points so we can clean the car. And they're obviously they're obviously going to be like amenities's gonna be
like figuring out. But I believe that somebody like we we find ways to
fix everything. There's gonna be ways that. Look at people never thought uber
was gonna work in a million years. They never thought that uber was gonna
work. I'm not saying it's not gonna work. When I'm saying, though,
is is that at a certain point in a consumer's perspective, and so it makes no sense if they do it right for you to pay for the car, right, a sixty thousand dollar car. And so if other companies
have so much of a fleet, say like I understand, you know, Hearts or whatever, they had thousand cars, and they pushed the margins so low that you really aren't making a good money out. But if you but
if you design an app, okay, it's like Uber did that keeps the rates and all that kind of stuff they can never ever in a million years, because taxis try to do it push the margins down to a certain rate, low enough to be able to compete. And Uber prove that because of
the taxies. Why tax became so mad because taxes were like, because taxes
hold, you helped have us by hostage for so long out there. I
remember taking taxi cabs and it was just got awful expensive, Like it cost me seventy five dollars to go across town from the airport across town and a taxicab forever, and I was just so used to paying it right. And
then Uber came out and Uber was like, I'll take you there for thirteen dollars. You guys, remember remember I gave it to take you for thirteen
dollars. We were like, uh, that's what happened to taxicabs and that
was the death of tax again. And then tax cabs tried to pull all
these stunts and all these laws up. The thing is taxicab driver, just
you guys did it to yourself, that would be the same thing that happen.
It's kind of where I'm going with, right. So when Uber came
out and stuff, they pushed the prices so low that it put the taxis out of business. They did to put them out of business. Their story,
they had just decrease their margins wise, as well as because there's so much cars out there on Uber's platform, right it is. I'll tell you
it'll be interesting the way it happens, self driving cars, everything, it's an interesting platform. It's just an idea. Hold that thought. I gotta
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welcome back. So when our commercial break we are talking about the facts and
Daniel and I were kind of talking about a little bit, probably like two weeks ago. I think we never really truly got into it on the air.
So when it comes to self driving cars, it's kind of funny.
You know, there's companies out there that have technology that they're trying to push forth, so you know how they're trying to be like the first to achieve, first to achieve, and it's funny because it's the milestones that they hit are always compared to. Once again, the favorite topic, I've achieved this
before Tesla. We achieved this before Tesla achieved And I always laugh and Nathaniel
and I were just debating it before on commercial break. I don't think you
achieved anything before Tesla. Just so you guys know, I don't insert car
manufacturer here, You didn't achieve anything before Tesla. Tesla's holds their cards very
close to their chest because that's a smart way to do it. When you
say that you're Milestone and you're using Tesla as you're measuring stick, what does that tell you? As far as I'm coasting, what does that tell you?
It means that Tesla's already beat your measuring stick, right, measuring sticks only as long as what Tesla allows you to be measuring stick is only the length that Tesla gives you to measure it by it. But they'll show you
right right, you know what I mean. So I'm like, and Nathanie
and I were just having a small little debate on it, and I think he understood. Hris coming from most kind explain like, look, I think
Tesla already has it all figured out, but they're definitely not going to show you their hand lets. You keep on thinking that you are at this level
of excellence before Tesla. Why would Tesla's show you all their cards and then
let you re reverse engineer everything that they have. Why we wait for laws
to get in place. So, for instance, if level five is the
top the upper echelon of discovery of and finalization of self driving cars, right, and Tesla's just set at level two right this second of self driving cars, and somebody else says, well, we now have level three and we beat you know them to the mark. Do you really think you beat Tesla
to the mark? I would guarantee you Tesla's far above and beyond. But
what good does it do for them to say we're at level five now, when if the law has only brought you to allow you to use level two or now level three, what's the purpose. There's no purpose for them to
go any further with technology until laws and regulation catch up to that. We're
so far behind them that that you might as well just go ahead and leave things that the way they are for a while until law catches up. Because
if you release the technology you have and you can't really use it, then people are just going to take what you have, reverse engineer it, and then they'll be right up to speed with you, which is what keeps kind of happening over and over again. Now Tesla is helping other manufacturers here and
there, but it's off the back of Tesla a lot of times. So
I can kind of understand. I'd rather hold everything close to my chest and
not let people build off my back and my success. Why we wait for
laws to get into place, It just doesn't make any sense to do.
So now that makes sense. Yeah, I mean so, I mean that's
my take on it. Once again, I'll say they're smart. They've always
been smart. And I just think it because if I just put everything out
there that I have have, then all you gotta do is just buy what I have, take it apart, figure out how I did it, recreate it, put it into your vehicles. Why we wait for a law to
catch up to allow us to use that technology that we're not even allowed to use right this second, I mean because the technology is superseded our laws so far. I just learned that obviously. So I mean, you know,
hey, you can't have a car that knows to go to speed limit on its own because there's no law that says that you can use that in the court of law to say, hey, look, my car need to do it speed limit. But it's not like, you know, my personal experience
anything. So I'm just saying, it's just it just gives you. It
gives you an example. So here's something kind of cool. Jump into it.
So you guys know what we've been talking about for years, how car technology is not self driving side of things, but just the part of working on cars has gone you know crazy. We're always trying to fight our away
right this second, if you take your car to repair shop because of COVID, we just is. COVID is literally like the whole h wrap around everything.
No, it's it goes right. COVID did to car business like the
scrap your Car deal did to their car business when they had the cash for Clunkers. Okay, cash for clunkers killed the part mark seeing that all of
our TV growing up, it was and it killed. It absolutely messed the
car market up, and so did COVID in its own way. People take
their card. I was at a repair shop this last week. Guy uh
called in. He's like, hey, I'm calling back on my car.
Was literally standout the counter. The guy was calling back just to get an
updated on the car. And I listened to my friend behind the counter.
I have to tell them not that they're you know, way of level wanting to get things done. The part's not going to be available for his car
until like August fifteenth. As quick as they get the part for his car,
I means that guy's without his car until August fifteenth. There's nothing to
do. Parts just not available, can't get it and probably making a car
payment on it. While you can't drive the car, ding Ding, you
win the chicken dinner. So what do you do. You're without your car.
The car is useless until you can get the part for it. So
as we talked and can't remembers this, we went deep into this years ago.
The dealerships and stuff are trying to find a way to fix this problem.
One of the ways they want to do it was three D print parts at the dealership instead of waiting for China or Japan or New Zealand and they country whatever to make the parts and ship them to America. Because we wait
forever, why can't we just make our parts things that don't have like a heavy load of well, you want to make a control arm or whatever, and then something that's broken, you can make it right there on a three D printer inside your own shop. They're doing it. This is starting to
happen. They're they're making printers big enough and the printers are crazy. So
Nathaniel showed me a video of them making hardcast parts for cars. Things.
Instead have had to wait for somebody else to make them, they're making them right there at the repair shop. Now this second, it's taking two days
to create a part, but you're not waiting a little over two days.
It's like fifty two hours to make one fifty one. The one part I
watched, it was fifty one hours. And it starts off. It has
to make six thousand passes to make the part, and it's making it at the fraction of a hair every pass. That's how it makes it. But
once it's done, it's a cast metal part that you can put right on the car. It's I mean, it's I'm having my three D printer make
a three D printer like Cameron. Cameron's like, I got an idea.
I'm gonna have three D printer make three D printers and sell three D printers.
So like, but I mean, we this was you know, we talked about this, you know, three years ago or so that they want to do that. The idea was is for car manufacturers, the body shops
start to start making fenders and stuff inside the body shops that were already color coded to the car color, and they can just hang hang it. They
don't have to worry about painting anymore or anything like that. It's made.
You just hang it and you go out the door without having smart Yeah, very very smart idea. It's a great idea. Now that's let's start making
all the parts. You know, if we got a bad control arm,
ty rod, stuff like that, we can just make them right there in the house. It's an it is And yet you don't have to have a
bunch of parts on a shelf right you're only making it as you need it.
It's better for the environment, it's better, I mean, so let's just control so many things beyond belief that you can control. It's a really
really smart idea, and we went from concept to now this is what we're doing. So it's kind of crazy. I'm pretty impressed with it. But
works is crazy. Well, here's the thing. It's the conversation over and
over again every time I go to a parts like convention setup or something like that. It's the same thing. It's the only big parts suppliers too,
that can't get parts, like they can't get it from people who make them the parts to stock their shelves. They can't get their hands on them.
And even though we deal with some really good part warehouses and they're like, man, we're you know, it's eighty percent coverage. Eighty percent coverage is
great, but it's eighty sometimes eighty percent coverage, but you only have so many of the eighty percent coverage. So if you need let's just say two
of you guys call for that part on the same day or within the same week, and then you're waiting for restock. You're you know, you may
be out of luck. That's how recalls are going right now, where they
can't get the parts. So now they're making it where you have to do
it. When the vehicle was there, you have to order the part based
off of the VIN number. But now dealerships are getting smart enough where they
had stock before, so like they had four or five parts, so they started restricting the schedule and then they're like, all right, so what we're gonna do is when this car comes in, you're gonna order the part and say, but you're gonna put this part on. Well, I was talking
to my buddy over the dealership and they had twenty three i won't say the manufacturer of the same car on their lot waiting for the same part. Wow,
And they would sit there for a month and a half that customers making a payment and he's waiting for those parts come in. So they can fix
their cars. I mean, carriage is drawing me pitches. He's gonna write
the manufacturer's name on a piece of paper where you guys can't see. Yeah,
he knows it kind of. So it's uh, it's just funny how
that how that works out. And this is the times that we're in now.
If you think that's really really crazy, the way it's happening everybody.
So you may have had your car for a little while and you gotta take the repair shop and waiting for parts. You got the dealership, you're waiting
for parts, and we're in a crunch. And you know who takes the
blood on that. The guy behind the counter that has to deliver the message.
He's just the messenger sometimes and he's taken. People are mad. Yeah,
but I I can smooth people. You can. Hey, your part's
not going to be available into August one third. Um, I'll keep you
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But no, if that infuriates you, somebody else has come up with a really good idea how to fix this part problem. So you don't have to
wait for the parts. Maybe, And if you don't think waiting for a
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This next story will absolutely infuriate you even more if it happens to you.
But you're gonna have to wait to the commercial breaker when I come back to find out what it is. So hold tight and I'll tell you about it.
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Palach. Hey, guys, welcome back. So, as promised, I
was telling you parts problem. Obviously huge problem. Right, So you can't
get it. Your car sitting there, it's at a repair shop, it's
at the dealership, and there's just nothing you can do other than be mad.
And you know, two years later you're finally getting in your car back and don't whatever you do, you know, don't kick puppies or anything like that, because that's not nice. You know, I thought about that.
Well, I'll see about the dogs it. So it hasn't gone away anytime
soon. So let's just imagine that you're infuriated that you can't get parts.
There may be a solution, and this one's probably gonna infuriate a lot of people. So this is the new weird trend that's taken off. So imagine
that you had a long day's worth or work and you come home from work and you park your car and you go about your business. Well, that's
not where I thought you were going. Go ahead. Can you wake up
the next morning and somebody sourced your car for all the parts that are hard to find out there? You know, somebody's been watching them build it.
This is a new, very very popular trend that is quickly gain seemed not that this has never been done before, but this is getting more popular and get a lot of more seam the cars they're out there. You can go
through on Google and you can find out what cars are hard to find parts.
You named one of them that you down on a thing. People are
actually targeting the cars, and we're seeing the parts that you can't get on the shelf right now and taking those parts off the cars, out of people's parking driveways, apartment of complexes, all that kind of stuff. They're just
going and taking just the parts that are hard to find. We went from
catilic converters to sign of the difference, so we should be nothing makes it a Catillac. I have to say it like that, everybody. No,
I thought you were gonna say. Imagine you went to work, worked for
a very long day, you finally are getting off and you're driving on the highway and you're looking at the sky and you're like, man, that's some really and then out of nowhere, you're flying in the middle of the air because you just went off of a tow truck. Did you guys see that
video none? Yea yeah, video where that's like the most dukes that hazard
thing I've ever seen. Like, that's what I want to know, so
I don't only think about that not to get off off top of If you guys didn't see the video where the the guy did what everybody's ever or girl made a bend, did what everybody's ever thought about doing when you see the tow truck with the bed down just like gone in sixty seconds, decided to hit the because they may know what happened and go flying. Why that happened?
No, I can't get the backstory. I've looked like how it happened,
Like did they like go like unconscious? Yeah, so I don't was
attention on because everything you know, I saw it. I've watched like three
or four times because I mean I even sung the song on my head while I watched it too. I was like doing the Dukes that hazard song on
my head because will you see what the police report said? Right? They
didn't say like they didn't give any information on Oh I know, but did you see what the word is? They didn't say car flew through air was
really high. No, they said it vaulted. Well, there's a couple
of different description, but no, nobody really gives you like nobody gives you the play to play on it, like like they don't really tell you like how that managed to happen? Right. It wasn't like somebody was just like
this is my one time chance, like here we go. Hold on,
Billy, you know what I mean? Like about his own crazy we about
to do something crazy. We get ready to be YouTube famous, you know
something. You know. Somebody was like, there's an ambulance right there.
They're really close. Look like, look they sent everything up for us.
There's really there's everything we need to make this happen. Look there's a film
camera right there. They got it all they're waiting for us. You know,
that was the officer's body camera. Gosh, that was not like it
like the film crews like we didn't get the right shoe. Like in my
head, I was like, as I saw I heard it was like, well, I was going My question was why was the toad truck on that side of the road If the act was on the accident was in the inside the medium, and that was just the best way to load from prochol and load from what they thought. That's what I was wondering earlier when I saw
the video. Yeah, I think that's the only thing I could think of.
That's how it went down. But so well, maybe they're gonna source
parts off that I don't know. I mean, like, but that it
made me start thinking about wouldn't it be easier just to go to like Junkyard and source the off the cars that are like probably already get why are you taking Like why don't you just go like why don't they stealing the cars off the cars they're sitting in these yards waiting for insurance claims. Wouldn't that be
an easier target than going to like Yeah, I'm not trying to give you guys any ideas or anything. I'm just I'm just saying, like, why
aren't people doing that? And so we see that like five yeah, yeah,
rob If you guys ever been to like an I A like like like like where cards are sitting where they get towed, like and they're waiting from aspect, Okay, so there's a bunch as far as I can see it touches those cars. I'm just why are they going to apartment complex? But
apparently, like I said, it's becoming a big thing and it's happening.
And then you try to ask us about the conveniences and they're like, I have no clue, Land of opportunity. Is that what you're trying to say?
Yeah, convenience? They're like, why go down why you know,
travel to moles Line, just go down the road. Yeah, my neighbor
got one, man, I need a control arm. My neighbor down the
street scout one. We gotta get it between one and eight. I don't
know, man, I it's amazing to me, like it's none of the stuff's ever knew. Is I think it's just the way it's reinvented or way
it comes back around. And I guess because I just I go, is
that what really what we're doing? That's really with people stealing parts? I
kind of wanted to give you. Most people don't know this. You probably
know it. You probably know because you got a car. People, if
you ever want to know if somebody's ever touched your car the night before, go look and see if your car has searchin patterns that it flashes its lights or if it has a longer horn. So some cars if their cars,
some cars, yep. Some cars if even if the alarm didn't go off
or the handle was grabbed, sometimes it will flash lights like a certain amount of times, or you'll play a longer like honk when you go to unlock the doors. It doesn't it has to be an aftermarket alarm or I think
for that to do it like that, though the most standard alarms, like just regular stock alarms won't do that. Usually it's to be an aftermarket.
I think it's um stock Mark stock alarms. And now I have to I'm
meant to go down like that rabbit hole and look now, because that's gonna make me wonder. It's funny just how many things like like the little things.
So it's funny out here where we're in a lot of places. Like
when you get that humidity and you get that do you ever gone out like when the I used to live an apartment, I go out and I could see where somebody put their hand in my car, touched my car, see from the from the dow, and I'm like, man, who's been touching my car? Like you could tell somebody's physically is touching there at night because
the next morning, do you can see like if they lean against or something like that. We had something in our front yard the other day and the
neighbor came and asked about it, like a couple hours later, and we're like, you were telling about Yeah, somebody picked somebody pick it up and just throw it in your guys yard. Somebody picked it up, and I
guess she must have video of somebody picking it up, and then she didn't.
She just saw somebody walk down the side of the house and then that goes out of frame. So she ain't he the direct next door neighbor.
No, she's the one on the end of the corner. Okay, walking
pattern. Yeah, best thing you can do is best thing you can ever
do is put cameras in on your driveway and stuff like that, especially that's where your car. Well, the neighbor told another neighbor, And she's the
neighbor that came and actually asked. She's known as like the person that knows
everything in the neighborhood. So she just sits and watches her camera, watches
and yeah, well there's always one of those living your neighborhood. I guess
that's good. If you want to watch your cars and know what's going on
and stuff like that. Everything, well that's good, Like there's nothing wrong
with that. Mean, there's Look, there's always a busy body in the
neighborhood. One thing about it, they're being a busy body in the neighborhood.
I said, that is I always know everything, every card that comes and goes. My first thought though, was, oh is this somebody put
this in my yard? What was somebody next to my car? You know,
is something missing, you know. Look. A good thing about like
living in the country is I always say everybody is. You can't like get
up a country driveway usually without somebody you hear. Yeah, you hear them
coming. Now when you live in the city, like when we lived back
in the city and we have the house, you heard, you kind of heard everything. Like the most part our house was pretty insulated though, so
you know, you couldn't really hear here. But I was, you know,
I didn't sleep a whole lot at night, so I saw a lot of thing, more things than anything else you heard. I don't know if
Nate heard you heard. Ian Ian and his dad watched his neighbor's car get
stolen, really, so I didn't get They thought it was somebody else.
So they were working on the car and they watched the car just drive away, thinking it was a neighbor. And then the neighbor came out later it
was where's my car, where's my car? And then they went to their
cars and realized that their cars were all scummaged through, and yeah, and they were they were working on at the end, they were working on someone went through their vehicles. Yeah, they said they were working on the car
in the garage when it happened. Yeah, that's that's yeah, yeah,
yeah, it really is. Man, I didn't get the full story because
I wonder if he had the garage door open. He usually found the garage
door right there, like it's right there. That's the crazy, that's crazy
that he were just taking cars. Well, look they're doing it in the
morning now, I said before, you're only keeping the honest on us.
That's all you're doing. We're doing nothing else but keeping the honest on us.
There's nothing else. You're a thief. Is a thief. As a
thief, you're never gonna stop thieves. Well, there's certain ways, like
you know, I still don't stand why guys that have really nice cars don't put it in something like this, simplest little gadgets like we were just talking, like simplest gadgets to keep their cars from driving away, Like you can put in really simple devices make it hard to keep get Why why why give it away? No? I can tell one gadget. What's the gadget that
your grand for used to have underneath the trans And you know that's like I said, I was just there's a little gadget. I'm not gonna give away
all my secrets. That's why I was just trying to tell you. I'm
like, I want to get away all my secrets, can't give but no why. I'm just saying, they're simple ways to keep it so, you
know, just looking to them. Get online, you can see there's a
million online. There's there's simple ways to keep your car from driving away.
I don't know, guys. Once again, it comes to the end of
a show. We run by click. It does these people why so quick?
So remember hey, enjoy your Saturday. Sunday's right around the corner.
I tell you, guys all the time. Spend some family time with your
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Enjoy your time with your family because it does go by fast. On
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About this episode
A lively discussion on the challenges of driving and the need for refresher courses for drivers takes center stage. The hosts debate the prevalence of poor driving habits, the need for periodic driving tests, and the impact of technology on driver education. They also explore the future of self-driving cars, the importance of understanding vehicle functions, and the potential for 3D printing car parts to alleviate supply chain issues. The episode is filled with humor and personal anecdotes, making for an engaging listen.
Original notes
Have you ever thought about how Crazy-Wacky Drivers, may just be people who have forgotten how to drive over time? Dave and the guy's jump into the idea of term limits of having to retake a refresh course on driving or maybe Self-Driving cars are the answer to all of our prayers? Also, how about 3D parts or Stolen Parts, What would you chose? Find our more on Today Show!