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Term
self-driving
A self-driving car is one that can steer and brake on its own using cameras and sensors. It’s not always perfect, and sometimes it still needs a person to step in.
Concept
evade being hit
It’s about what a self-driving car should do if something dangerous happens suddenly. Even if the car is driving correctly, it still has to try to avoid a crash if another driver or person causes the problem.
Brand
Waymo
Waymo is a company that builds self-driving car technology. The story here is about how their cars reacted in situations like floods and crosswalks.
Term
hydroplane
Hydroplaning is when tires can’t grip the road because there’s too much water. The car can start sliding, and it becomes harder to steer or stop.
Term
crosswalk
A crosswalk is where pedestrians cross the road. Self-driving cars have to detect people there and slow down safely.
Concept
100 mile challenge
A “100 mile challenge” is basically a long test: can the car keep doing the task for 100 miles? It’s meant to show whether it works reliably over time, not just for a few minutes.
Term
parameters
Here, “parameters” means adjustable rules for how the car behaves. Think of them like dials that control things such as how fast it goes or how close it gets to obstacles.
Term
zero to 100 percent
“Zero to 100 percent” describes a normalized control range, where a setting is expressed as a percentage rather than in physical units. For driving systems, percentage-style controls often map to limits like throttle/brake aggressiveness or confidence thresholds.
Term
distance we're going to leave between trees
This is like telling the car how much space to keep from obstacles. A bigger “buffer” means it tries to stay farther away to avoid hitting things.
Car
3 Three Wheeler
A three-wheeler is a vehicle with three wheels instead of two or four. Because it has a different balance than a normal bike or car, it can feel very different to ride. The podcast mentions it in connection with doing wheelies, which is a stunt that needs a vehicle with enough power and control.
Car
Ford Maverick
The Ford Maverick is a small pickup truck. It’s meant for everyday driving but still has a bed you can use to carry things. People talk about it because it’s easier to handle than bigger trucks.
Concept
altered state
They mean a situation where someone isn’t acting or sounding normal—like when they’re under the influence of substances. It’s just describing how the person’s voice changes.
Car
Suzuki Samurai
The Suzuki Samurai is a small SUV that’s built for off-road driving. It’s known for being tough and for handling rough terrain. The podcast brings it up as an example of an older vehicle that’s been through a lot.
Place
King of the Hammers
King of the Hammers is a tough off-road race in the U.S. where cars and trucks have to handle rough rocks and desert terrain. People use it as a way to prove how capable a vehicle is.
Car
crown Vic
“Crown Vic” is short for the Ford Crown Victoria. It’s a big, older American sedan that a lot of police departments used, so people think of it as tough and easy to drive for events.
Term
cages
“Cages” here means a roll cage, which is a metal safety frame inside the car. It helps protect you if the car flips or crashes, and some racing rules require it.
Topic
racing on dirt
“Racing on dirt” refers to motorsport events where the surface is loose dirt rather than asphalt. Dirt changes traction and vehicle behavior—drivers often need different setups and driving techniques because tires can slide more easily and grip can vary corner to corner.
Term
break in a new belt
A side-by-side uses a belt to send power to the wheels. When the belt is brand new, it can be damaged if you hammer it right away, so you need a short break-in period first.
Term
Can am belt
That “belt” is the part that transfers power from the engine to the wheels. If it gets overheated or abused, it can wear out or break—so the type and condition really matter.
Term
break it in
“Break it in” means you don’t immediately beat on a brand-new part. You use it gently at first so it settles and works the way it should.
Term
side by side
A “side by side” is an off-road vehicle with two seats side-by-side, usually with a roll cage. People use them for trails and dirt, and how you accelerate can matter for things like belts.
Term
break them in
“Break them in” means you’re supposed to use a brand-new part gently at first. The goal is to let it wear in properly instead of stressing it immediately.
Term
low range
“Low range” is a gear setting that makes the vehicle move slowly but with more pulling power. It’s used for steep hills and rough terrain, where you need control.
Car
Fso 125
The FSO 125 is a small motorcycle with a 125cc engine. Bikes in this size class are usually lighter and easier to ride than bigger motorcycles. The podcast mentions it because it can be fun to ride aggressively, including doing things like drag-knee style riding.
Term
heat stroke
Heat stroke is when your body gets dangerously overheated and stops being able to cool down. In hot races, it can hit fast and needs urgent medical help.
Topic
Baja 500
The Baja 500 is a big off-road race in the desert in Mexico. Because it’s so hot and rough, people can get heat-related illnesses, so safety and getting help fast matter a lot.
Term
trophy trucks
Trophy trucks are the top class of purpose-built off-road desert race trucks. They’re designed for high speeds over rough terrain and represent the highest-end, most competitive level of desert racing—often with the biggest budgets and strongest teams.
Concept
desert racing
Desert racing is a form of motorsport where vehicles compete across long, harsh off-road routes with extreme temperatures and dust. It emphasizes durability, navigation, and heat management as much as outright speed.
Topic
Baja 250
The Baja 250 is an off-road race in Baja California, Mexico. It’s about 250 miles long, so it’s a good “first Baja” event compared with longer races.
Term
whoops
“Whoops” are bumpy sections made of lots of small, repeated bumps. They’re hard on the suspension and tires, and they make the car bounce a lot.
Term
Baja bugs
“Baja bugs” are Volkswagen Beetles that have been modified for off-road desert racing. They’re smaller and less specialized than the big trucks, but they’re still built to survive Baja.
Term
class 11
“Class 11” is a category in the race that groups cars with similar rules. Here, it’s the category for the Beetle-based Baja cars they’re talking about.
LIVE
Welcome to the Cent and Bent podcast episode 79.
We have some stuff to talk to about today.
We have some stuff to talk to about today.
Yeah, well, one of them that I was going to say is that I need surgery,
and I thought we could talk about that.
That's fine.
And Shopgoose, I think we should dive into too, because he's getting real big.
Shopgoose also has many things to say.
And I have questions about how geese work.
You have questions about how geese work.
Exactly. I really do, because I don't know much about farm life,
but I learn more and more on this podcast every week.
So, and just existing at my house.
Yep, exactly.
So the first thing that I was going to tell you guys is if you're listening to the podcast,
you've probably noticed that my voice has been getting progressively downhill for months on end.
And it just sounds like I've been went to a rock concert yesterday, but every day.
Or have been smoking for 20 years every day.
Yeah, well, I always just thought it was because you get so excited,
and you hoot and holler more than anyone I've ever met.
So I was like, oh, his voice is kind of gone today.
He must have really been excited last night or something.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if she was just being nice with the girl at the doctor's office was like,
well, I can't tell it doesn't sound like you've been smoking your whole life to me,
which, which I haven't, by the way, it's just the way that I sound and the way that I look.
But I was in there at the doctor and he jammed a camera through my nose down into my throat.
And then he just started live diagnosing me while the camera was,
you know, it was uncomfortable and it was hot and I was like leaning forward.
And he was like, oh, yeah, you have something growing on your vocal box vocal cords.
Yeah, that needs to be cut off while the thing was in my, you know, face.
And so I was starting to get dizzy and I was like, oh, no.
And he's like, yeah, you're going to need surgery.
And I was like, ah, and then I almost passed out.
But the last time I went under was getting my wisdom teeth out.
And how old were you when you had that?
Because that for me, that was like two years ago.
Oh, no, I was a full on adult too.
Yeah, I was 20.
That seems to be more common now.
Like people get them out later than they used to.
I had a mouth when I was like 16.
Yeah. But I mean, there's a big difference between 20 and like 34.
Yeah, that's true.
20 still like they just grew in and they've been hurting for a little bit.
For me, it was like they've been totally fine my whole life.
They grew in fine.
And now they just are getting cavities because yeah, they are hard to clean.
Anyway, well, I did you go fully under for yours or just a little?
Okay. The interesting thing is I was fully under, but I remember the yanking on my head.
Really? Yep. Oh, I brought me close enough to consciousness that I remember.
I don't remember anything.
I remember they gave me some laughing gas to start with.
You don't remember pain or anything. No, no.
They give you laughing gas and I remember being like, well, that's why it's called
laughing gas, you know, to some extent, making some dumb joke to the nurse that
was wheeling me back and being like laughing at myself. Right?
I remember that and then nothing.
And then I remember just being aware of my head just getting yanked around.
Like no, no, like feeling of pain or anything.
Just my head getting yanked all over the place.
That is kind of a crazy thing.
And then the next thing I remember is like sitting in a wheelchair in the waiting
room and being just coming 100% to consciousness all at once.
I just like, I don't remember anything like there's no vague like, oh,
they're rolling me out. It was just, I'm sitting in a wheelchair and awake.
You know what's funny is like, this is just proof that Ethan is built different
because Edmond and I's experience was much different than that.
Yeah. Mine. I had like the Thor movie came out that year, the first one with
like Natalie Portman and stuff. And so I was on like the chair thing
and they were put the, you know, the gas in my face or whatever.
And like count to three. The last thing I remember is two.
Nice. But then I woke up in the wheelchair and I fought off the nurses
and I was going full speed down the thing.
And I was like, I'm Thor, son of Odin.
And I need to fight off the dragons. So I was starting.
There aren't even any dragons in any of those. I know, but there were in my head.
And so I'm going to make sure I didn't miss something there with that.
You're not supposed to talk after you get your wisdom teeth out.
You're supposed to talk as little as possible.
And I'm yelling about being Thor, saving everyone from the dragons,
just rolling around my wheelchair super fast. They can't catch up to me.
It was like a whole ordeal just to get me out of the hospital.
That's hilarious. This is unbranded.
And so that's before I knew my wife, but I was completely zonked for like hours.
Like I was the most out of it ever.
Obviously you're not supposed to drive after that. And I didn't.
I actually had AZA take me because this was when Kylie was still in Texas.
Yeah. But I 100% could have driven home.
No, like the whole way home. I was like, yeah, this is fine.
I could have driven. My sister drove me home and I rolled down the window
and I was yelling at people through the window and I was like, I'll save you.
I'm Thor. I mean, your reality has always been a little more malleable
than the rest of us. So yeah, but that was yeah, that's crazy.
That you think because I couldn't have driven that day.
No, I couldn't have came home and worked on the shop.
This was when we were building the shop.
I came home and worked on the shop that day, like that afternoon.
I was so out of it.
Like they, they wheeled me out and that's when I kind of regained consciousness.
They wheeled me out and I remember like seeing my mother's car and I'm like,
oh, and I tried to get up and I just like fell straight down.
Then I get in the car and she had like some prescription to pick up.
It's like some pain meds or something.
And I was in my car and I'm like fiddling with things and I fiddled with the glove box
and I found my cell phone. I had a little flip phone then and I, I don't remember this,
but it was the talk of all my friends because I called a girl and proposed to her.
That's amazing.
I don't remember what I said, but yeah.
What was the answer?
Well, I don't remember, but it was definitely a no.
I mean, you were 16.
Yeah, I was 16.
And so you hadn't even like asked her out.
No, some girl.
Yeah. No, I was probably the first person in my contact.
So somebody's name who started with a, I guess, like I just called her and said,
will you marry me? Well, that's the story I heard because I don't remember that.
It was really fuzzy for me, like for a while.
Wow. Dude, this goose's bite is getting strong already.
He's just over here nibbling and like every once in a while he gets a chunk.
Yeah, he's growing up real quick.
I have questions about that for sure, but something I thought would be really funny
is it's also funny because you'll likely marry someone who starts with an A.
Yeah, I will actually.
Yeah, that's true.
So there you go.
But maybe, you know, full circle.
Yeah.
What's funny too is my girlfriend and I were only like one person removed for our
childhoods. Like we know a lot of the same people that we grew up with.
Yeah.
Whoa.
I didn't know that.
It's kind of funny.
Yeah, I never met her, but.
Huh.
Well, she was one away from being your first proposal over the phone.
And I know maybe that would have like 20 years.
I'm not sure if that would have ruined my chances now or improved it because I had
some practice.
Hmm.
I don't know.
We'll have to see.
Time will tell on that one, but this time, you know, my wife's going to drive me
home and she has no idea what's coming.
I mean, from the sound of it, you have no idea what's coming.
You were there last time you could be Odin this time or you could be like from
a completely goose.
Eat yourself off the table.
Dude, what if you just become Pepe?
Oh, just I am Pepe the frog for the rest of my life.
No, what we need to do is we need to put a GoPro in the car.
Nice.
That's why you keep the goose's butt at the edge of the table pointed away from
you.
This facts about geese.
This is this is Goose Lee's podcast.
We just shouldn't even try to talk about anything else.
Just cut to one hour of him going.
I had to dodge a bomb, Steven.
What were you talking about?
Oh, I don't remember.
Oh, just how you would probably be like from the Lord of Pepe or something.
But you play that music on repeat while you drive home to get yourself in
that zone.
And we should definitely have a hidden camera.
Oh, yeah.
We'll do a sent and bent podcast with my wife and I.
She's just driving me home from the doctor asking me.
It's like the when you take the honesty medicine in the action movies and
you're like, Oh, I really, you know, like this and oh, yeah, here's the codes to
my safe.
Like that's probably what I'll be like.
Yep.
We should come up with some good questions to ask you.
Yeah.
You guys should write down the questions and then we'll just have her ask me on
the way home.
I feel like I'd be even funnier if like it just was just all entirely spur of
the moment.
Let's make this a work trip.
It can be a whole segment.
You guys can pick me up in the ambulance.
Yeah, we'll just go pick you up in the ambulance from you.
Oh, that would be hilarious.
It would be hilarious.
And just like strap you into the one of the seats with a podcast going and like
I'll drive the ambulance and Steven just sits there interviewing you the whole
way home.
That'd be hysterical.
Honestly, that'd be great.
My wife is not the best driver.
To be fair, she got her license what like three years ago.
Yeah, exactly.
She's really still learning, but she does some things that make me nervous.
They're not technically illegal, but they make me nervous.
You know what I mean?
Well, yeah, that's, I mean, yeah, totally.
Um, I think there's something to be said for learning things when you're younger.
Oh yeah, your brain's super plastic and you and also like, I know that I would, um,
if I, if I got like a driver's license or something like that, I mean,
that's a really bad example because I've been driving since I was like 12, but
like something like that, where you're expected to know it, you'd be pretty
like you'd just be like, Oh, this is an easy thing.
I know how to do this, even though I haven't because I'm an adult.
Yeah.
Whereas when you're a teenager, sure, you're like overconfident, but like,
you're still like, Oh, someone should probably teach me the rules of the road
because I don't know them.
Yeah.
You're like, you understand that you need to learn that.
Whereas when you're in your thirties or whatever, you're like, it's fine.
I'm a adult.
I can figure it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're like, Oh, I've driven with Preston like a dozen times.
Like, yeah, it's got to be easy.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I just fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess it's kind of like that, but for my shop goose questions.
Yes.
So.
Shop goose is a, a what kind of goose?
Most likely he's, he's a toloose because the, the previous geese that we had,
that we traded to my mother-in-law, which is where this goose came from.
We had two kinds.
There was toloose and ebden's, I think is what they're called.
The ebden's were the white ones.
It's something like that.
Anyway, it starts with an E and they have blue eyes on their white.
The tolooses were the gray ones based on his coloring.
He's probably a hundred percent toloose, but there was also some mixes that were
half and half in the, the litter in the, in the geese that they hatched out
this spring, which they hatched at like 15 of these little guys.
So that's why we got a couple.
So probably a toloose.
So it'll look just like Steve.
Remember Steve, the goose that we had.
Yeah, it'll probably look just like that when he's grown up.
Okay.
So when you first started talking about him and you're like, he'll be shop goose
and he'll live in the shop.
Yes.
And then he won't be like a mean bully.
Like the other geese ended up being because he'll be like used to us and the
shop and stuff.
So I guess I'm like just now realizing how serious you are.
Like he's going to live in the shop.
Well, only until he's an adult.
I mean, then he'll be like a free roaming.
Yeah.
When he's fully grown, he'll be able to free range and we'll put him in with the
other geese at night to sleep because that just makes more sense than having his
own little place by himself being sad and lonely, you know?
Uh-huh.
But during the day, he'll probably choose to come hang out with us in the shop.
He's just growing up out here because one, that's how we get him, you know,
attached to people, which clearly has worked.
Yeah.
This goose will not leave me alone.
Stephen was just showing me a time lapse from the up and coming Ferrari video
and he's just sitting by her feet the entire, like you're probably standing
under the car for over an hour.
Yeah.
And he's just like following my feet around.
We've had to be really careful too, because he really likes chewing on the
bottom of our boots for some reason.
Like if you're a kneel or like if we're sitting in these taller chairs,
he'll just be under you like on the bottom of your feet.
Luckily he's constantly making that noise.
So you can always hear where he's at.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't want to step up the guy.
So that makes sense.
So the plan is he's going to go through his adolescence in the garage used to
meet people and then he'll more or less have the life, same lifestyles,
the other geese except for coming to garage and work with us when he's an adult.
I mean, he could do whatever he wants when he's an adult, but
I have a feeling he's gonna hang out in here the entire time and then go eat
some grass and then come back.
He's gonna be like all the other birds except smell a little bit more like diesel.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
He'll have like a crazy tolerance for sounds and smoke and yep.
All that stuff.
Yeah. I was, uh, I was working on it on the house with A's of the other weekend.
And we had the goose hanging out with us and, uh, A's it was like, Oh,
you know that saying meaner than a junkyard dog. He's like,
it's going to be this goose except it'll be tougher than a grind hard goose.
That's pretty good.
Yeah. Tougher than a grind hard goose.
Yup.
Yeah. It's funny cause he's,
he's chilled out a lot over the, this, this last week or so.
Um, like the first few days it was just like,
you leave him alone for any amount of time and he was just freaking out.
Oh yeah.
You'll see evidence of that in the video coming up because like the first
several days he was just beep, be constantly in the background
of like everything and then he's slowly calmed down. It's like a,
yep. And now if he's like within like,
if he can see you basically, he's fine.
Yeah. He knows that when you go three feet away, you're not away forever
now. Exactly. Yeah. As long as you can see where you're at and you're not too
far away, but you think you'll bring him up to the mountain ever?
Maybe we'll have to keep a lot of more of an eye on him up there cause
there's more opportunities for predators and everything else, but that would
be harder to find him. I don't think he's getting away. Have you seen this
goose? He just sits in the excavator with you while you're moving multi-tun
boulders to build your house.
That would actually be hilarious.
It's funny because I forget who I was telling the other day, but
I I've never been like into birds. We had chickens when I was a kid and I
hated them just cause they're loud and stinky and annoying.
That cause when we started grind hard, we're often there in the other garage
right by the chicken shed. And every time you mentioned that something was in
the chicken shed or get something from the chicken shed, you're like, I
hate chickens. I still do.
I don't know because most of the arguments really apply to both. I mean
loud and stinky and annoying and you know, but for some reason, I don't
know. Maybe it's just cause I had to like deal with them and feed them and
stuff when I was a kid and the roosters were always mean and tried to
bite my ankles, but I don't know. Geese are just ducks and geese. I think
they're cuter. They're more entertaining. They're certainly and at this
part I did not know I had a time. Geese are like they're way more personable
than any other like farm bird. Like we had a shop chicken and raised it the
same way. You think it wouldn't like the imprint on people the same way.
Oh, like it would be friendly. Like there's one of the chickens that we
have over there that Kylie got from her mom. It'll like when you go into the
coop, it'll follow you around, but that's cause it thinks you have food and
I don't know. Geese are just very impressionable birds, but it's funny
because if like if somebody to ask me a few years ago, I'd have been like, I
don't care. Geese. I mean, they're entertaining and they're loud and they
honk, but like I never cared. But then when we got the first round of geese
last year, obviously all baby animals are just ridiculously cute. So you hang
out with them, but it was just, it was interesting seeing how, how personable
they are and they're like talk to you and I mean, obviously not in words, but
in their little pee pee peeps. You could like the ones that we had before, you
could say goose, goose, Adam and they would respond with like a while when
they're babies, the little peeping noises or when they were older, they
honk at you. Yeah, it's funny when goose leaves a honker. Oh, I know. It's
hilarious because right now what he just says, does his little pee
pee, but that in a few months is going to be.
You know, we have this perfect opportunity to make a montage of him growing
up. Yeah, it's a case study and how their voices change over life. Like there
they go as buying to windows until I get surgery and shop. Gooses
elevates. Yeah, then the full Ferrari series. It'll be like little baby,
medium baby. Yep. And then by the time we're like really driving it and
things are starting to be dialed in, he'll be a full on honker pretty much.
Yeah, full on co-pilot. Yeah. But yeah. Anyway, point is having a pet shop
goose was not in the bingo cards as they say.
Yeah, not on my bingo card for that. Well, what really started it is when
that random goose showed up, the one we named Sally, the random Canada goose.
Yeah, that one, like I thought that was hilarious just cause those geese are
so stereotypically aggressive. Oh yeah. Geese in general are aggressive, but
Canadian geese are mean. He didn't want to
she because she just hung out and like helped herself right in with all the
other birds. Yeah. And I don't know that. That I just like that. I just thought
it was hilarious. I was like, man, wouldn't that be funny if we just had like
a random wild goose that just hung around and then we got these ones that
that was when I realized you couldn't do that. Yeah, I realized that that's
illegal because they're migratory birds. So it's illegal to keep them captive.
So we, she would have got a great life. She would have been down if it wasn't
for the man. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Then she just kind of like let herself
out one day and no, I well once I realized that it was illegal to keep
Canadian geese captive. I just put her in the, we put her in the garden
because she didn't really want to leave, but we didn't want the dogs to mess
with her. So we put her in the garden and just she eventually flew off, but
there was also another goose flying around honking at her. So that might
have been her mate. I think that they made like long family. Yeah. I don't
know. That's so funny. And then he sometimes just leaves it there. Yep. Just
like this little goose kind of acts like a cat in some ways. Yeah. He's like,
yep. Yeah. Like a kitty cat.
Wow. Anyway, there you go. It is an interesting side quest for sure, but
it's like more than a side quest. It's like I see the comments like came for
the Dease world's first diesel Ferrari stayed for the geese. Yeah, it's
pretty funny in the farm life. Stephen, we need a necklace for him now. I know
I keep where's the one that you built for the original shop goose. I think
that one ended up as part of one of the other bigger ones, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, we should make him a necklace later. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. We brought
that big bag on the MTV trip and we were going to just like make the
necklaces and then we ended up not while we just ended up so busy once
you made you made two of them on the way down. Yeah, a couple regular ones,
but we should bring our bag before the Ferrari and the shop goose necklace
happened during Ferrari. That's true. Yeah. Well, we have a whole kit
because people were sending us like a little pounds. We say we do not need
more of them. We should bring them to gambler and then build on our way.
There you go. That's a good idea to gambler. Yep. It'll be imagine just
riding around in the power wheels with a goose
at gambler town with his necklace. People like, oh, yeah, we should give him
like a little bandana and some sunglasses to that's something I forgot
to. Well, I don't know. I might have told you guys about it, but the people
haven't heard about it. I went to two weddings the other weekend.
Or did I already talk about this? I don't know. I'd run it. We talked about
one of the weddings, but I just the fact that everybody was asking me about
the goose where the goose was. Oh, no, we didn't talk about that. We just
talked about the fire. I'm hoping that this is the first podcast in the last
like five where we don't talk about a fire. Well, no, I have a small fire
for that. Oh, yeah. No, but but yeah, I went to the first wedding was
it was my wife's cousin getting married. Well, there we go. There's a big goose
poop. Anyway, it was my wife's cousin that was getting married. So everybody
there, you know, all of her family and stuff knows about the goose and
everybody was just asking about the goose. Like they're like, where's the
goose? Why didn't you bring the goose? I overheard people saying that to at
the other one. Did you Justin? Yeah, it was way less. So I forgot. Like I
forgot that anybody had asked that there because
I think Edmonds looking for something to clean up the juice dropping in the
bathroom. There's something
anyway. But yeah, it was it was pretty funny because everybody kept asking
me where the goose is like my wife's mom, her sister, her grandpa, everybody
was like a little tuxedo, a little goose tuxedo. Yeah. Yeah, they were like,
why didn't you bring the goose? I was like, well, look, does this outfit
look like it has a goose sized pocket? I don't think so. Yeah, you like getting
trouble for modifying your rented tux. Well, the tux, well, it wasn't even a
tux. It was just a, you know, dress slacks and a shirt. But that was only
for the second wedding, the first wedding. Yeah, back to back weddings. One
day after the other, that was a lot of weddings. So in the last podcast, we
talked about the fire at the wedding, but you've been a part of another fire
since then, Steve, it was three miles, a mile this time. But like I was driving
here and I see emergency lights on the highway and I'm like, oh, that's weird.
And I'm getting ready to pull over, but no one else was. Everyone's just slowing
down. So I was like, oh, okay, maybe they're up, stopped up there. And they
were, there was a wrecked car in the highway that was smoking. And as I was
driving by it, it went and like flames started coming out. I was like, get me
out of here. Like cause I just didn't want anything to do with another fire.
Honestly, what was it? Oh, I don't even know. It wasn't a memorable car. It was
just like a little sedan that was probably already damaged before it got
wrecked, but it's just a little gray sedan and it just went on fire. Like when
I was next to it. So I don't know what's going on with me, but I have the
curse of the fire this year. That's what's funny is like when the remember
when Teslas were first getting like really popular and then like Tesla hate
was like all the rage for attention. It's like one lights on fire and it's
like the biggest deal in the world, but then like gas cars light on fire all
the time as well and nobody talks about it. Yeah. I remember that and I remember
talking about that and being like, okay, but like three Teslas have burned down.
So what how many gas cars have burned down in the same time period? Like it's
like three gas cars have burned down in our zip code this month. Yeah, right?
Probably. Yeah. Yeah. I always thought that was weird, but I know that they are
like harder to put out totally. Yeah. Different retardant and stuff, but
like still like I was like, this is so weird. Like yeah, it's but it's kind of
like the self driving things when it crashes with the self driving. Yeah.
They're like three of them crashed this year self driving Teslas. It's like,
okay, but how many not self driving cars crashed today? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like, yeah, by percentage human error is a lot higher than the
computer error, but like for some reason our brains are wired to just be way
more upset when it's a computer. Well, there was this one of Waymo's
competitors. They had a car get into an accident and it wasn't even the self
driving cars fault. They just got hit by a real person driver, but the self
driving car was doing the correct thing. They just got hit, you know, right?
That happens to humans too. And the whole entire company went out of
business because of this. Wow. And it's like that's ridiculous. Yeah. Like
what are they supposed to do? Train them to like evade being hit? I mean,
I guess that's got to be built into the code to yeah, but only only to be
extended. Yeah, you can do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a Waymo that they got.
I think it's a whole state or maybe city. They got temporarily banned because
there was a huge flood and the Waymo just went into the flood water at full
highway speed. Hydroplane to cross like this big stretch of highway and didn't
even let off. That's amazing. Being in that car, seeing the flood in front of
you, being like, Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. It just keeps going through. And I don't
think the people got hurt. So it is a funny story. But like when I was like,
that sounds kind of fun. That's like a reckless roller coaster. When I was in
Phoenix, we were at this little brewery. Alyssa and I, there's a bunch of
Waymo's all around Phoenix now. Well, may I don't know unless they've been
banned their sense, but we watched one just like slam on its brakes at a
crosswalk and this guy went at the Waymo. It's like, well, there's no driver.
He's like, he's acting all mad at the car with no driver. That's amazing. At
least the car stopped though, because it was going like full speed and yeah.
I wonder how close technology is for us to make one of our things a self
driving car like with limited just like vacation, you know, throw some stuff in
there and then poach some code and yeah, exactly. Yeah. AI some code and just
like, Hey, this camera like stop it, stop lights. That would be pretty
funny. Obviously we need a way to like manually override it, but like I feel
like a self driving power wheels. The era of YouTubers making their own self
driving car software is nigh within six months. Yeah, it's probably already
possible right now. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's just like especially if you could just
borrow the code from yeah or borrow the I'm sure there's some or just the
entire car and just use it. You know what we should do? We should code a
Chang Lee to take Edwin 100 miles just no matter what it doesn't let you out
of the car unless it's gone under miles. It would be amazing. a
better driver than you potentially. Well, yeah, probably. Yeah, for sure.
It would be programmed to be not so reckless. We could kind of program it
to drive like you though. We could just steal the code from those Chinese
self driving cars. Yeah, the ones that are driving through potholes at
maximum velocity. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, that'd be, you know, we talk about
on the live stream because people always bring it up when we're streaming
that they control the car for the 100 mile challenge. But I guess what we
haven't talked about is if you guys controlled the car for the 100 mile
challenge from the safety of the garage and yeah, but then we'd have to sit in
the garage for like a hundred hours, which is way worse. Even I will
admit that that's worse here sitting in here just watching you drive at two
miles an hour. That's way worse than actually just being there. What we do
though is we combine these two ideas. So we'd let the AI do the driving, but
we'd give chat control over certain sets of parameters like stump of
weight. It's could be like a zero to 100 percent. Oh yeah.
That's true. The amount of distance we're going to leave between trees. You
know how we're you always joking about GTA six or the
siding on my house. Yeah, you need to add to that the 100 mile challenge. Oh,
yeah, there's GTA six versus 100 mile challenge. Yeah, I mean, I will attempt
it before GTA, but but like at this rate, the 100 mile challenge might not be
accomplished until like the technology might have increased so much that it
might actually just be a self driving car by the time you actually do 100
mile challenge and Chang Lee like there might be self driving Chang Lee's for
sale by the time you actually well, he'd be the first to have one when they're
available. Also, did you hear that Stephen? He just admitted that there's no
way he's actually doing 100 miles. There's no not before GTA six. Yeah,
no, but yeah, because you hear that the first time he's ever actually admitted
that this is actually kind of amazing moment is well. I've realized that I
don't have any self control just now.
Well, I was like even just like on Sunday I took a dirt bike up the
Gold Hill trails, you know, and I was by myself and it was a dirt bike that
was literally falling apart in my truck on the way there like parts fell off
of it. Lovely ride there. Yes. And so I was like, I'm going to take it really
easy. And the next thing I know, I'm just like
lobbing up this hill at maximum velocity. There's super high grass on either
side of the trail right now. I couldn't see anywhere where I was going.
Couldn't have seen anyone come in all by myself fall throttle the whole time.
It wasn't until I got to the top and I hit a route and I almost I got so close
to going over the handlebars because my pegs are pretty low and it hit this big
route that I couldn't see and I almost got flung over the handlebars and it
hit so hard even though I didn't fall off the bike. It knocked the wind out of
me. It took me then and I was like, Oh yeah, I was going to take it easy
because the bike's falling apart and I'm alone and like I'm in the middle of
nowhere, but like I just I don't have any self control. I get on a little
machine and I just want to put it to its maximum. You get on a little
machine and few years later, your vocal cords need surgery. I think that I
think that it might have been started on. Remember how bad it was at the end of
the MTV road trip? I could barely talk because I was doing the wheelies on the
three wheeler and chatting with Gavin and like well yeah and riding in the trucks
for that. I mean you were also in the Maverick sometime, but any time you're
in the MTV's I was in with Chris a lot, which he also didn't have hearing aids
then too. So I was really projecting my voice and they're just incredibly loud
vehicles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think that and I mean, you know, you can't
really say where it all started, but one of the symptoms is called a.
I don't know. There's a name for it, but it is really rare actually to have it
on my actual vocal cord. It is actually really rare because he like that's
another thing I was looking for a little comfort from the doctor. I'm like, Oh,
it's probably a common thing you do all the time and he's like, no, this is
really rare. He does do vocal cord surgery all the time, but for people
like messing them up from yelling too loud or whatever. Yeah, that are like in
their early 30s. Like, yeah, he's like, he hasn't seen. He doesn't think it's
from yelling, but I Googled what he thinks it is because he doesn't actually
know what it is until he takes it out. The actual growth on your vocal cords,
but it's like a thing like he's like, it looks like this. It looks like a, like
a BB like, yeah, weird. It's like never heard of that. Yeah, it's weird, but it's
making my voice feel uncomfortable. I know, right? Yeah, I probably am grossing
people out. I shouldn't talk about it much more, but like that. I just try to
think of things. I really damaged my voice. The original hundred mile challenge
was hard core. Oh, I'm gonna and I were just goofing off yelling, whoa, for like
just days, right? And then there was one in between the 22 that I was
thinking that like, man, I really pushed it on that one. I don't know
basically everything that we do every week. I'm constantly like yelling all
the time podcast and I ramble to live stream for eight hours, you know, and
And it's like, it's just nuts.
And I told him about everything that I do and like, you know, how I do the
voiceovers for the videos and the podcast.
And then I hoot and holler and yell about my experience driving little machines,
you know, and after the surgery, he wants me to go to a voice coach
who's going to like teach me how to like strengthen my voice
and like warm it up before work and stuff, actually.
Yeah, it's like pretty useful.
It's probably like what singers do before concerts and stuff.
Yeah, I asked him, I was like, Hey, I did choir.
Should I do my like singing warm up exercises?
And he's like, no, no, no, not now.
Like, don't sing.
He's like, after you get it taken off, then you can like, you know,
but he's like, just try to not yell.
So I should probably do the 100 mile challenge before my surgery
because afterwards I probably shouldn't be, you know, yelling,
whoa, or is it better to do it after you've healed?
Well, that could be like, I don't know how long it takes to fully heal.
Well, there's some research on this.
Yeah, but I figure either way, if I like make it worse before surgery,
that's probably not bad.
I mean, making it worse isn't a good thing, but you're right.
I like, like it's, it's gonna be doing surgery in there anyway.
So if it gets bigger or whatever, so what?
Yeah, it's about to go away.
So I might as well just blast out my voice on one more hundred mile
challenge with Edwin's voice version one.
There you go.
Yeah.
I do need to ask him if my voice is going to change at all cause like it
clearly changed because of this growing.
So if they remove a little bit more than I even had before I grew to get
rid of it, then maybe my voice will be like, maybe I'll sound like Morgan
Freeman or something, you know, I don't think you're going to win that lottery.
Oh, is he just stretching or pooing?
He's stretching.
Yeah, or David Attenborough.
I just like get a British accent.
That is not how that works.
There are, there is a, isn't there some weird type of like, oh, brain thing,
brain trauma where you can just like suddenly develop like the ability to
speak a language you never knew before.
Yeah, it's like after you come out of a coma, I don't remember the name of it,
but yeah, you can all of a sudden just be fluent in another language.
I don't understand how that works.
Yeah, that works, but I can't like that you've had previous exposure to or I mean,
I'm you probably you would have had to have heard some of it.
It would have needed some exposure, but no, just people who are like, I didn't
speak Spanish and now I can speak Spanish.
That sounds like a really bad romcom like.
Oh, he sounds like a dumb sci-fi movie speaks French.
Yeah.
It also sounds like a dumb sci-fi like like limitless or something where
they're like you only use 15% of your brain and now we have this drug where
you can use all of it and be Superman.
Think if that was real, right?
That'd be crazy.
Although I think we use a lot of our brain.
We use all of our brains.
If we only use 15% of it, we wouldn't have evolved it in the first place.
You just aren't consciously aware of whatever 85% of it.
It's still doing things.
The brain is like sending blood through your body and like doing all of the
tons of stuff that's going on.
Yeah, or like all your yeah, everything that's subconscious.
It's all happening there, but you're using it.
It's just yeah.
You didn't use it.
It would just go away like that's not how did use 100% of it to like trade
stocks or whatever you would die.
You would immediately dead.
Your heart would cease to beat instantly.
Yeah, I think that's one of those movies that like didn't age so well.
They were right at the bad time of like motion graphics and stuff where like
which one limitless.
Yeah, yeah, because like you rewatch it and you're like
even like the 3d graphics and the matrix were better somehow even though
it's like way older like the really old stuff.
They tried super hard, but then there was this kind of like we're getting
away with it and it's kind of cheap and easy era of film and limitless lands
right in there.
I've only watched it the once when it roughly came out.
So I watched it when it came out and I don't remember being impressed with it.
All I remember.
Yeah, I remember the general premise and that's yeah the premise.
What's cool?
Yeah, I mean, I do remember liking it, but I'll be on that.
I don't remember anything about it.
I don't think it's going to be a cult classic anytime in the future.
Any probably not.
Yeah, no, it'll probably end up like the B movie.
People like wear the script of it around and stuff just as a full meme.
Have you seen the YouTube video where they cut out every single word
except for when the bees say B and it's still 40 minutes.
Yes, that's insane.
It's like B B B B.
I actually have seen that.
I think they say it over like 2000 times in the movie.
They say the word B.
Wow.
It's crazy.
Actually, you know, the biggest thing I've learned with having a goose in the
shop is that there's a reason there's a saying pooping like a goose.
Is that a real saying?
Well, I mean, it's usually a different word than pooping.
But yeah, it is a saying.
I don't I mean, I don't know how like global of a saying that is.
I think I've got it from Chris, so it could just be a Chris thing, but
that he's the first one I thought of when you said, but I think it is a
saying.
I mean the Goop.
The Goose does poop a lot.
Yeah, I mean he's pooped like five times in a 38 minute podcast.
Since you've been getting geese, I definitely realize silly goose isn't
just like a cute thing.
Like it's they are so silly dude.
They're so silly.
Also, we just learned the other day because I said it as a joke and a pun
to Steven and then I was like, well, I better look that up.
The term take a gander.
You know, I always say that I'm going to go out to the junk yard and take a
gander at what we got.
Yeah.
That's a gander.
Well, theoretically, a gander is a gander.
We just talked about this on the last podcast with Chris.
Oh yeah, the good.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Yeah.
Male goose is a gander.
I mean, this is theoretically a male goose because we've named him goose
Lee and refer to him as a him.
We actually have no idea, but, but I said that the other day, I had the
goose in my pocket and I was like, well, Steven, should we go outside and
take a gander?
And I just pointed at the goose.
It took me a second.
That one went over my head at first.
So, uh, so a gander is the goose, but then the goose no goes around the
field and looks about it's because I looked it up.
It's because they're very curious animals.
So they're constantly looking at stuff.
Yeah, they really are.
Yeah.
And so they're always like craning their necks and being like, what is this?
So it's like to look around curiously is to take a gander and it comes from
geese.
That's why I have to have the barrier because he loves the little lights
that move on our podcast.
You notice how much more calm he is this time though, in just a week.
Oh yeah.
He's grown up a lot.
Yeah.
As he stands up, flaps his wings.
There's such little dinosaurs too.
I know, especially when their wings don't even have feathers.
They look so much like a little T rex.
Yeah.
It's hilarious.
Imagine what a baby T rex looked like.
They were probably really cute.
Probably.
Yeah.
If they weren't, you know, eating your fingers for lunch.
Yeah.
And they must have been like really big.
Like, you know how big a baby moose is like a brand new baby moose.
They're still really big.
Oh yeah.
A baby T rex.
You'd be like bigger than a grizzly bear.
Right?
Yeah.
Oh, well, no, not necessarily because they hatch from eggs.
Not.
They're not life-born.
So you just.
I mean, who knows?
I wish we could see that.
That would be cool.
Watching a T rex hatch.
Rex come out of it because I've watched like these guys come out of their
shells.
I just think about real Jurassic Park at least once a weekend.
It's always on the weekend.
I don't know.
I like see a mountain and I'm like, man, if they ever made Jurassic Park
real, that'd be so cool.
I think about it all the time.
Actually, we were just talking about this.
We had a bunch of people over this last weekend and somebody was like,
there's so many billionaires in the world.
How has nobody made a real Jurassic Park?
Yeah.
And then I told them about our conversation about rollercoasters.
Technically, we probably could because we've already brought back a couple
of animals from extinction.
And they're working on mammoths right now.
Right.
Do we have enough DNA from?
I don't know if we have enough DNA from because we had enough DNA for
dire wolves.
So right, but those existed like.
Yeah.
Same with them.
Well, after yeah, within within the last like 20 or what, 50,000 years or
something, something like that.
But you have like straight up not a 100000000
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like the I mean the premise of we just got to get deeper into the ice and
find a full blown t-rex.
Yeah.
Well, they were they were reptiles.
So then being an ice would be like unlikely.
No, but I mean the premise of the movies was that they found their DNA in a
in like a mosquito larvae that was no.
Yeah, it was a mosquito that was trapped in amber.
Yeah, which is just you know and he had an alfalfa cane.
Are those movies any good?
I've only seen the very first one.
Really?
You've never seen Jurassic Park two or three?
No.
Oh my, they are so good.
Like arguably the best movies ever made.
Wow, Steven Spielberg dude.
Yeah, Jurassic Park three is sick.
Oh yeah.
First one is like like if you go on Imbd like consider one of the top 10 or 20
all time, but Jurassic Park three is also really good.
Yeah, I mean I haven't seen them since I was probably like 12 or something.
So they hold up those practical effects are sick.
That's the difference between the CGI to watch that one that came out with
Chris Pratt the first one.
Oh, those are bad.
Just out of here.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they are.
We need to have like a goose poop counter on this podcast or something.
Getting out of control.
Yeah, poops like a goose.
Probably my fault.
I've been feeding them a lot of clover.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah, no, we don't have anyone with private roller coasters anyone making
Jurassic Park and no one Batman.
No one Batman.
I know, but I think like if you make that much money like to get to that
point, like all you have to care about is money.
Absolutely like making Jurassic Park isn't going to make you as much money as
like investing in a fleet of whatever I buildings or something.
Yeah, I mean that's kind of true, but also people spend hundreds of
millions on yachts, which are like not traditionally the best investment.
Yeah, and also don't serve any purpose to make.
They're just a giant hole in the water to put your money in and if you did
make a dinosaur park like you could make some money.
I mean, it would be a thing that's theoretically profitable unlike a yacht.
Yachts are never profitable.
They just you just spend your money on a yacht.
Well, but you do need the ride off.
So you have one.
Yes, meeting there a year and then you have one business meaning a year at
your.
Yeah, your roller coaster private roller.
Coaster Jurassic Park property.
Wow.
That was a missed opportunity that there weren't roller coasters in Jurassic Park.
Yeah, that's true.
Like some scenes of velociraptors like chasing the roller coaster down the
track, you know, the coast with the real velociraptors.
It's not hard to imagine that have been been the case when you ride
Velosa coaster because they have these animatronic dinosaurs that chase you
as you launch and it's different animations each time.
It's pretty cool.
How was that not part of the original Jurassic Park?
That's what I want to know.
Apparently they knew it was a missed opportunity because they invested a
lot of money into making it real for that park.
Oh, right.
Right.
But it's not real dinosaurs.
So well, yeah, I mean, we've established that.
Have you seen National Treasure?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Speaking of a movie that does not hold up.
Holy crap.
Who is that?
I remember it being so cool when I first right when you're like 14 or 12 or
whatever when you first saw it amazing.
So you know when they're going to watch it deeper and deeper underneath
the Catholic Church for the final clue, the giant like the elevators breaking
and stuff and all that.
Yeah.
Straight out of Jurassic Park.
Just a hundred like just moment for moment like shot for shot.
How so?
Cause I'm oh just that happens in Jurassic Park.
And so not the I forget if it's because they're not going down into the
earth for like half a mile.
I know they are.
Yeah.
Where they are in two or three for sure for what?
They're being chased by dinosaurs and trying to escape.
Why is there like a super deep tunnel in the it's like a old thing that was on
the island or something?
Huh?
I guess maybe I didn't see that one.
I don't know that moment and that's like staging and that going deeper and
deeper like that's pure still Berg.
That's funny.
Spielberg did I you said still Berg was like what are you talking about again?
Also aggressively clearing my throat could have caused this to Stephen.
I was just talking about how he's like now it makes sense why Edwin's just
always like never actually cleared because there's physically something
growing on it.
Nice freaks me out man.
At least we live in the age where they have the technology to just remove that
little thing is.
Yeah, indeed.
That's something he was telling me.
He was like, he's like, well back before cause he's like, this is a little
uncomfortable and he's putting the camera through my nose and everything.
He was telling me how they used to do it.
They'd put like a mirror on like in your throat and then there'd be like a
mirror on the doctor's tool and then like a mirror on like your forehead that
like mirrored to another mirror and they're like highly specialized at like
doing throat operations with this array of mirrors and stuff.
That's insane.
That is so crazy of a thing to get good at, but like that was all there was,
you know, but this was a fiber OPTIQ camera that, you know, clearly fit in
my nose and had a little robot arm.
So he's also controlling the robot arm.
So like he'd have me like, he'd be looking at my left vocal cord.
He'd be like, say E.
I'm like E and then he was, nra, he pans the camera to the other one and he's
like, say E and I'm like E and he's like, oh.
Like he literally like it was, it probably took like 40 seconds, whatever is
there must be big cause he was like instantly he knew.
He was like, oh, yep, we're going to have to get rid of that.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that was pretty crazy.
Yeah.
And I was telling him too, um, that like, you know, with my allergies and my eyes
being red and my voice being the way that it is and like, there's really no
way of telling how long it's been there, but like how everybody thinks I'm just
high all the time, including all the grind hard fans, like all the comments are
like, I want what Edwin's having pretty much, but I'm just like not.
I'm like, I'm not going to sound like perma fried anymore.
Potentially.
No, you still will because it's not just the sound of your voice.
It's the way you talk.
Oh yeah.
It's not like it's not because sounding sounding stoned doesn't necessarily
have to do with the pitch of your voice.
It's the way you speak.
This is part of it kind of, but not really like you can sound stoned without
a horse voice at all.
Like for example, our friend Justin, who went on the MTV trip with us in like
voice messages and stuff.
He always sounds super stoned.
Oh, his voice doesn't sound horse.
It's just because he's like, yeah, man, that's a good idea.
You know, it's like, you know, such a chiller.
Exactly.
I guess I do talk like that, right?
Well, or just say things that are kind of like absurd too, which is another
thing you do if you're yeah, you know, on substances.
That's true.
So I don't think it's going to help is what I'm pointing out.
Your physical voice might sound a lot better, but you'll probably still
sound like you're in an altered state.
Well, part of it I might kind of miss because I kind of like how our videos
start with like my voice being kind of normal, like our challenge videos,
you know, like the road trips.
And then by the end of it, I'm like, my voice is like cracking and stuff.
And I'm like, guys, I'm like, this has been such a cool trip.
Like it adds this like, like the cars are getting more and more beat up.
Like the samurai trip, for example, and like we're getting closer to home and
like clearly like Steven's son, burnt Ethan's dirty.
Yep.
My voice is like, like it all kind of like paints this picture together,
but I'm like, and then a lot of times I record the voiceovers after we're back.
So also my voice is getting more tired in the voiceovers.
So I mean, I'm sure that my voice probably still worn out and stuff, but
like probably not to this extent, which is, you know, ever since the first time
we went to King of the Hammers, I keep expecting my voice to just completely
go away at events and it just doesn't because that was the only time it really
did was the first King of the Hammers trip we did that happened to all of us.
Like, but I think it was from the.
I think it was largely from the smudge pot smoke because the other times the
all the other trips that wasn't there and that was the only
time I've lost my voice that bad.
Like sometimes it'll get a little bit raspy after a few days of yelling in
the MTV, but that or I've just conditioned my voice to be even more
absurdly loud all the time.
Have you looked into good Lord this goose poops a lot?
That's got to be time seven.
I don't know.
It's a lot.
Have you looked into more of like which race you want to take the side by side
and or anything like that?
Cause we keep talking about it and I know you keep looking up a few things
here and there when you have time.
I haven't looked into it much.
I'm also.
Yeah, I don't know.
We've talked about a lot of different things with that and
like one.
Yeah.
I mean, we've talked as we talked about before, if we, if we body swap it,
then it doesn't make a lot of sense to race it afterward, even though it would
be cool.
It just destroy the body.
Yeah.
For not, not much.
But also like after I've looked around more at like used race vehicles, it
might even be worth just getting a better one for racing.
Maybe not even a side by side.
It could be something more interesting, but like there's for just a little bit
more money.
You can get a much newer, nicer race spec side by side.
So that's just a side point.
But yeah, I know I haven't really looked into it a lot, but I took Sam for a ride
in it that thing this weekend when he was up and now he's into it and he's
like, I could be talked into.
He's like, he just voice messaged me after he left.
He was on his way home and Justin was riding with him.
He's like, dude, Justin, I've just been talking about it and that was so much
fun.
He's like, it's time.
It's time that we get into racing.
We're old enough.
We have enough money.
He's like, we need to get into racing and I was like, also somebody else.
So I sent him a listing of that.
There's one in like Montana for sale right now.
That's a pretty good deal.
That's like race, race spec.
I mean, pretty similar to ours, but a little bit newer.
Yeah.
I sent him that one and he's like, so how many, like how many third, like how
much do you make for like a third place podium with a race like that?
And I was like, I have no idea, but I can tell you, you are not getting third
place in a side by side.
That's 10 years old and I don't think there's, is there prize money even?
Yeah.
I mean, there's always prize money for any race, but it might not be.
He's like, I just need to know how many third place podiums I need to justify
buying that thing.
So anyway, Sam would make a great co-driver and just a racer in general.
Yeah, totally.
Well, and if it was a long race, you know, you'd want to be able to take turns
driving too.
So actually Sam would be perfect.
And I hadn't thought about that just cause like, I didn't know how much
you and Sam have a similar risk tolerance level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very similar.
Perfect.
Very similar.
Yeah.
Actually Sam's risk tolerance is higher than mine.
I think in certain things.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, think about the times, all the sketchy stuff he used to do here
when he worked with a, like his like all the sketchy things with the, with
the Odyssey, maybe it's not so much risk tolerance, except maybe he just has a
little bit less experience driving dumb stuff.
And he did have that weekend that he like free soloed like how many peaks
did he do in one day?
Oh, that was actually hilarious because like he asked me, he was on his way
there, but he didn't know where he was going.
He's like, I want to, I want to solo the fin.
Where is it?
So I gave him directions on how to get there and then he gets to the, or maybe
this is the other way around.
I don't remember, but it doesn't really matter.
He calls me from the top of it like, all right, how do I get down?
Are you serious?
Yeah.
And then he's like, I have like a backpack with a water bottle and one
little tiny rope just in case he had to repel.
I don't think he had a rope.
I think he might have taken a little tiny piece of rope.
I don't remember.
Maybe he did.
I don't remember for sure.
We should just get him on the podcast to tell that story.
But what's amazing about that too is later he called me and he's like,
Oh, I want to link up to Harrison peak.
How do I get there?
So I'm like, well, just go north on the range.
Like what?
Cause I know that area really well.
And then he got me a piece of gear that I got stuck there while I was roped
up and my climbing partner who was also on a rope couldn't get the piece
of gear out and Sam's like, Hey, I see your initials on this cam.
I'm going to bring it back to you.
And I'm like, how on earth do you do that?
He's free.
So like took the time on the edge of this cliff to get your cause he saw
my initials on it and it was one of my brand new cams and it hadn't been
there long enough to get destroyed by the sun.
But like, I know Ethan would.
There were kind of do that kind of there were times in my life when I would
have done that and Sam and I did go free solo chimney rock together.
Yeah.
Once and like, but that was a very brief period in my life.
Like I wouldn't do it now.
Certainly not now cause I haven't been climbing at all.
Yeah.
At the time I climbed a lot and so free soloing a 55 or a five,
six climb up a 250 foot rock.
Like if you're climbing high five, 10s or five, 11s all the time,
yeah, then it's not, it feels very safe, but now like I don't have that practice.
I wouldn't do it.
And I just have my tolerance is also a lot lower cause this weekend I went
and I was like, Oh, I'm going to climb this peak.
I haven't climbed it before and I got up it and then I realized I don't think
I can come down the way I came up.
So I committed myself to this really dumb route where I had to summit
another peak that I knew absolutely nothing about and then bushwhack like
six miles or so that went to the road.
So that's why I was sore Edwin.
Oh yeah.
I get to Steven's house yesterday and to grab the hard drives for the next
grind hard video and I was like, Hey man, you want to go to the skate park
and you're like, No, I was like falling asleep on the couch.
It was really funny though, cause I'm like bushwhacking my way out and I
finally found the road.
So I just like crawl up the road and I'm like a little bit bloody.
I had like a bandana around my neck trying to protect my neck from like
cause I was bushwhacking thorns for hours and I was like trying to hitchhike
this car's going by and I'm like, of course they're not going to pick me up.
I have a gun strapped to my chest and I look like I've just been at battle
in these woods.
Like, were you by yourself on that one too?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess funny.
That's the thing like risk tolerance is like it's so relative to like what
you're doing like, if, if Steven was your co-driver in the side by side,
he'd be pretty scared of the whole race.
Oh yeah.
And it was driving.
We would be in last place.
It would be in last place.
No, the Steven can't drive, but he'd be like, I don't know about this corner.
Yeah.
Even though that like being in that machine with like a roll cage and belts
on that race is probably not as dangerous as your it probably is through the woods.
Yeah.
And I do these a lot.
Like still like the, I guess like the overall risk tolerance.
Yeah.
Sam probably is pretty up there.
Oh yeah.
Like cause I don't, I don't know.
I'm, I'm like in the middle.
Like I kind of don't like super risky things, but whenever I have the chance to
do something dumb, I do it.
Yeah.
And I think there's a different, there's also two different things that play for
you and for anybody else.
There's risk tolerance and then there's risk awareness.
And I think that's what you have that's low in certain situations is risk
awareness.
Yeah.
Your tolerance for risk isn't all that high.
When you're aware of the risk, like for example, driving this power wheels here,
you're aware of how much it would suck if you roll it all the time.
Yeah.
So you're, I've never gotten close to rolling the car.
No, so you drive it very cautiously.
Accordingly, it's the risks you're not aware of like stepping on to the
excavator.
Yeah.
No awareness that risk even existed and therefore your tolerance is very high
or his like risk awareness with like say the hundred mile challenge.
Exactly.
Like getting broke down 50 miles in the woods is not a concern to you, but
that is a risk.
And then that would kind of suck.
And that is like more risky than what you were saying you did this weekend
cause you were closer to your car than where I could.
Oh, wait.
Yeah.
Potentially be on the hundred mile.
Wait, yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I'd be very close to my car, but if my car could move.
Yeah.
Very close to you.
A real car.
Maybe we should get him one of those like GPS Garmin things and you and I
can just check in on them every eight hours or something.
Yeah.
I'll just do like, oh, he's been in the same spot for 36 hours.
We better go rescue him.
If I give you the location on my phone, does that work when you have
service or don't have service?
You would need to connect to service at some point.
And then it doesn't work through satellite.
Uh, I don't think it, I mean, it does, but I don't think it updates.
Live updates.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everyone's been asking me to live stream the hundred mile challenge and I
just don't think it's possible.
Well, then think about how many more pounds of gear you'd have to bring,
which would slow you down.
More batteries you're using constantly.
Yeah.
There's just no way and two, like it's already a lot to do the challenge
and I'll look at those tiny wings by yourself.
I think I'd have to have like a.
Very good.
At least another person with me, which I can't do in that car.
I mean, it has a back seat.
Yeah, but it's going to be full of gear.
I know I'm just joking.
Well, the problem is he can't convince another person to go with them.
That's true.
He'll get really close and then he drops the and we're only going to
eat mac and cheese for a week.
Part of the back out.
That's what I think this is.
Ghosted me.
I was like, watch this video.
It's going to be just like this, but even harder and we're only going to
eat mac and cheese.
He's literally never talked to me since that's hilarious.
Yeah, which at first he was like, oh yeah, dude, I'll come down.
I'll bring my filmer.
Well, you know, so I just thought of this because we were talking about racing
earlier.
It's not related to what we're talking about now, but Lee racing.
I've been thinking about it too.
No, but Robbie Layton has a racetrack.
That's what I was getting at and he would probably let you race anything
there.
Oh, he loves to put it.
Yeah, exactly.
He wrote in his races this weekend and I'm just really disappointed in all of
us, myself included mostly that we're not going to race that because we had
an opportunity to race and we failed.
I should just text him and be like, so if I showed up on Saturday morning,
would you have a car for me to drive?
Just just buy a crown Vic and drive it there, man.
No, they're all they all have cages and stuff.
It's not like show up with your own crown Vic.
It's okay.
It's it's legit.
Just like clear to 500 and stuff just on dirt.
So they'd have a car for you there.
Yes.
Hmm.
But you know, I don't know if you'd have one this last minute.
Also, I don't know if I want to suddenly drive for, you know, 20 something
hours this weekend, but you know, if anybody wants to go with me, we could
get last minute go to his race.
I have to go to a wedding this weekend.
Another one.
What's up with all the weddings this year?
I have two more coming up this year too.
Well, I think this is a nice time of year to get married around here,
but it's people that we know like there's always people getting married
all the time, but age man.
Yeah, I guess early thirties man.
This is when people be getting married.
At least millennials.
I'm I'm over halfway through my thirties now over or you are exactly over.
I mean, I'm 35, but I'm well over halfway through the year of being 35,
which means I have significantly less thirties ahead of me than behind me.
That's a crazy thought.
Yeah.
I remember cause I've been going to the skate park and I remember like cause
like the kids kind of look at you like, yeah, what are you doing in the
skate park, bro?
Well, they either expect you to be like Tony Hawk or really not know what
you're doing.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like somewhere will not in the middle compared to Tony Hawk, but like I'm
doing more than some of the kids and less than some of the other kids.
Right.
But like still I remember being that age and seeing old people at
the skate park and being like, this must be some kind of weird creep with
like out of girlfriend or something, you know, but like I don't know.
Now I realize that 30 something isn't that old.
Did I I may have told this story like last year or whenever it happened,
but when I was out dirt biking with Justin and other Justin and some
other people or no, doesn't matter.
Anyway, we were up at Stampede and there was this huge step up jump set
up over this road.
Yeah.
And the run up to it was absolutely terrible and I I tried to hit it twice
and the first time like I came up short, but it was a big rolly thing.
So it was not the end of the world.
And then the second time I almost cleared it and then, but I was a little bit
sideways in the air because I was just still full throttle at the lip of the
jump because there was no run up anyway.
I crashed super hard and was sore for like six months because of it, but
but there was this other guy there who was like 21 and he like had
raced motocross and stuff.
And so like after I crashed, I was like, Oh man, I'm getting too old for this.
And I was just joking.
I was just like being silly.
I was like, I'm too old to ride like this.
And he was like, wait, how old are you?
And I was like, I'm almost 35 and he was like, Oh man, that's sick.
You're still out here riding like this.
I was like, come on.
Almost 35 isn't that old.
Not to be surprised.
You're jumping exactly.
I was like, come on, man.
You're like, if I'm not still jumping dirt bikes when I'm 50,
like at least right?
Yeah.
No, all my neighbors, like dual sports is what you get into when you hit 50.
The like all my neighbors ride dual sports.
Yeah.
All every single male.
Speaking of jumps though, this weekend when I took Sam for riding the
side by side, two things.
One, I learned that you actually properly really, really, really need to
break in a new belt on a side by side.
I'm used to snowmobiles.
So I was just like, yeah, what does it matter?
And I'm used to like really crappy snowmobiles.
You can throw a new belt and just ride full throttle all day.
Nothing happens.
I put new belt in the side by side and I was like, sweet, we're good to go.
Blew it up in like 30 seconds of driving.
Maybe maybe a minute.
Was it like a wish.com one or was it a genuine can am belt?
Oh wow.
So I was like, Oh, well, I guess you need to warm them up a little bit,
break it in a little bit.
All right, cool.
So I put another belt in and I was like, okay, we'll just cruise around here.
We'll go around the trails real slow like and we'll just putts over here,
putts over there and then we'll send it.
I was like, how much does it matter?
Like it's, you know, whatever blew up the second belt.
Really?
Yup.
Anyway, but the point of the story is the new, the jump there,
the step up jump on the hill.
I rebuilt it a few months ago cause I was doing stuff with the skid steer.
Anyway, that jump is very nice right now.
Nice.
We need to hit it on something.
Yeah.
I meant to bring my bike up one of these days.
It is like, it's super aggressive.
Like I hit it on the side by side, not full throttle cause I was still trying to,
the thing is the second time I was trying to be easy on it.
Like I'd never hit full throttle.
I was like accelerating.
I was accelerating a lot, but gently.
It wasn't just like stomp the throttle down.
Yeah.
So apparently you actually have to break them in.
So if you're racing, that was my pre break in a bunch of that was my logic.
I was like, if you're racing, nobody's taken the time to break in the belt
cause it says for like 30 miles, like drive super chill.
And I was like, nobody's going to be doing that racing.
That's ridiculous.
That's just a lot of different kinds of belts.
They're like, maybe they have pre warring belts from the factory.
Yeah.
No, not from the factory, but I think that I, my best guess is that people
are just breaking in their belts and then swapping to another one,
breaking that one in and then having your spare being already broken.
Like a lot of extra steps.
I know.
I, that's why I actually blew up all three belts in like a short period of time
because I switched again and I was giving a ride to Kylie's friend who was here
in town and that time I took it even easier.
I was like cruising around for quite a while and I blew it up in low range.
Just like barely crawl cruising up the like little hill on the other side
of the creek.
Oh, so did you blast through every single new belt we had?
Yes.
Okay.
In about 20 minutes.
Yeah.
So I ordered some new ones and these ones will actually break.
But every time I kept being like, okay, but like it can't matter that much
because how would you race?
Hmm.
I was just like, maybe these were defective.
Like there must be something.
There's no way.
Maybe it wasn't the exact right belt.
No, it's literally the same part number that was on there.
Oh, and that one lasted us for, I mean, we did a whole F one tire thing in the snow
and it was used when we got it.
We did all of that.
I drove it all the way up to the property and back.
I ripped it around here countless times.
So like that's what was in my head and having never actually owned a side by
side before I was just like, it can't matter that much.
Yeah.
But, um, but yeah, hitting that jump in the side by side.
It was very nice.
Like, you know, before you just full throttle it and it would kind of you'd
launch, but it was kind of like a long smooth thing.
Now it's like, nice.
It's probably the most area you've caught in that thing.
Huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think so.
How's it feel when you land from that high?
Oh, just unbelievably cushy.
Like you can't even tell you've been airborne.
Really.
I mean, you can, but barely.
So that's what got Sam.
He's like, all right, we need to race.
I was like, yup.
I've been saying that for years.
Sam, I really want to get into, have you seen the mini Moto GP that you like
learn how to drag knee and stuff on like the smaller ones like 125s or whatever
that to me looks so much fun.
Like to learn how to actually do it in corner, right?
And keep your weight.
Cause like you see videos of it and I always think in my head, like, how do you
go from like normal person awareness on a motorcycle to MotoGP to that?
But it's like, that's how you do it on a small bike.
You get really low.
You learn how to bring yourself back up out of a corner and when to accelerate.
Like I really, really want to do that.
But all the places that I can find that offer it are like in California is like
the closest ones.
Yeah.
That is, that is problematic.
Sounds like we got to go back to California.
Remember all that good stuff we saw in marketplace.
Oh yeah.
There are a lot of good stuff there and so the desert people have the good stuff.
Yeah.
Especially when it comes to desert racing and desert race vehicles that like part
of like like beyond Southern California where it's like not nice anymore, but
the desert people are there.
That's like Tatooine and Star Wars.
Like the Jawas are like trading parts and pretty much hot rods.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you just get to Baja and it's that times 10 basically.
Nice.
Well, not really.
I mean, there's still never been to Baja.
We should go.
Just grind hard goes to Baja would be the sickest episode ever.
I mean, we should just try to plan to go there for one of the races because what
time of year do they do it?
I mean, they just did the 500.
The 400 is next and I don't know when that is exactly.
The 1000 is in November.
I think or something like that.
See, that's a nice time of year to go there.
Yeah.
Right now it for us.
That's got me.
What I did have heat stroke on a motorcycle at the Baja 500 this year.
Really?
Yeah.
Like racing.
He got heat stroke and died.
Geez.
And that's yeah, it is.
What was crazy though?
And like the like, I mean, obviously it's a tragedy, but the cool thing that
happened about it is like an entire lineup of trophy trucks, which is like the
highest end of desert racing, the most money, the most everything.
They all stopped and help this guy out to try and get him to like the whole line
of them, like 10 or 15 trophy trucks just stopped.
They're like, we're not racing anymore.
We're helping this guy get to medical.
That's good.
Yeah.
Attention.
So that was, I mean, it's a cool story, but yeah, it was tragic.
Like yeah.
Anyway, but yeah, sometime later in the year, like that would be easier.
Also the honestly, the Baja 250 might just be a really good place to start for
us to go watch and like be around or whatever because it's especially or
like even actually, we should just try to race the Baja 250 this year.
That would be really cool because it's only 250 miles.
It's I think I looked up the entry fee and that's two and a half hundred
mile challenges.
We're not in a Chang Lee Edwin.
Did you imagine the first person to do a Baja race in a Chang Lee?
It's a loop.
So for filming, it's a lot easier because you can hit different points on it
and then you can like you can.
I've spectated it a few times when I was a teenager with Chris and you can
watch like somewhere around race mile 20 or something.
You can go watch him hit the whoops and then you've got you can watch every
single car goes through all the way to the last class 11 Baja bug that looks
like people want to have a spine replacement afterward.
No really like trophy trucks are going across the whoops dead even and the
Baja bugs are just going blank, blank.
That sounds so much fun.
Not even the Baja Bugs.
The class 11's you should you would you would be in the class 11.
Yeah, it's the Chang Lee of the desert.
You know what Chang Lee of the sand.
You know what's weird or ring on the tongue.
Yeah, you know what's weird about class 11 is it's actually like
more expensive to get into a class 11 race car than it is to get into a
side by side race car really on average.
I mean you have to buy an actual car instead of no.
I mean just I'm just looking at used race cars and used class 11 race cars
are like at least as expensive if not more than used side by side race cars.
Wow.
I don't know why is that I don't know.
Maybe it's I think it's probably partly because you have to do a lot more
to the car to make it race ready.
Yeah, exactly like the side by side just comes with it.
Well, no, I mean you generally still need a real roll cage because factory
cages are not real like race spec at all, but there's companies that make kits
just bolt on and everything else in the thing is pretty much good to go.
And even though class 11 is like not supposed to be very modified,
you're still modifying every part of the car.
You're just not upgrading it massively.
Yeah.
So that's the best guess.
But anyway, point being back to the Baja 250.
It's the shortest of the Baja races and it's it would be the easiest to film
and pit because it's a loop in a relatively small area instead of because
yeah, we used to that's what I was saying.
We used to watch the beginning of the race and then we'd like go have lunch
and then watch the finish in the same day.
Like you just go back to the finish line and watch the finish.
So we could do that.
Yeah.
Nice Lord.
How many times I think we're in double digits.
I think that's time to end the show.
That's how we that's how we time the podcast not by hours, but by goose poops.
Yeah.
Ten is about an hour.
So we must be done.
Thanks for listening.
We'll be out every week and maybe you'll see us at Baja.
Yeah.
About this episode
A throat scope turns into a surgery plan when a doctor finds “something growing on your vocal box vocal cords,” and the speaker compares the experience to being fully under for wisdom teeth. The conversation then swerves into shop-goose chaos—GoPro filming jokes, “pooping like a goose,” and a debate about keeping Canadian geese captive being illegal. From there, they pivot to real-world desert racing talk: Baja 500 heat stroke, trophy trucks stopping to help, and why the Baja 250 could be an easier entry point to watch and film.
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