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We start with laughter, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to another series of your favourite

Porsche and car podcast. It is, of course, NineWorks Radio with Lee Sibley and Andy

Brooks. Good day. Back in the room. It's good to be back.

It is indeed. It is good to be back. You've been busy in a few weeks off.

Been very busy, Andy. I tell you what, I've been very busy doing. I've been very busy

remembering we need to start this episode with a word from our sponsors.

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NineWorks Radio and also to Road Trip Tribes, Andy, our handy road trip buddy.

Yeah, we used it the other day, didn't we? We did. Yeah. But yeah, good to have them

as a sponsor as well. Yeah, it was particularly funny using the walkie-talkie function on

that and the five beeps that happened beforehand. Yeah, it's quite cool, isn't it? It is unless

you're listening to music. But yeah, it was good. It was good. It means that, yeah, you

don't have to be holding any walkie-talkies. You and I can just converse while we're in

convoy all via the app. So another cool feature of that. We did say last series, the good

news that Johann at Road Trip Tribes has told us Apple CarPlay compatibility is on the way.

Yes, not quite here yet, but very, very shortly, I believe. Yes, the word from Johann at Road

Trip Tribes is the app has been signed off for CarPlay by Apple. They just need to put

it on there. Yeah, I think they've got a few little tweaks to do to it to get it up and

running, maybe doing some beta testing at the moment. Yes, have a look on the app store

for Road Trip Tribes, whether your phone is off the fruit-based variety or otherwise.

And there is, because there is a subscription model attached to the app, there is a handy

DNHC discount. Yeah, that's still running, isn't it? Yeah, till the end of the month,

I think. Yes, and it's on our SuperDupa discount file shared with DNHC members. Indeed. So

go and check that out at Road Trip Tribes. Thanks to the guys there and to Heritage

Parts for backing us on our radio, your favourite Porsche and Car podcast. Beautiful. So can

we dive in with just new model, first of all, Andy? Yeah, the much-tinted new model, isn't

it? They would put, they seem to have changed their tact on how they put stuff out lately,

don't they? There seems to be lots of hints, like official hints rather than unofficial hints.

You, I think you guessed it correctly, didn't you? I think like it's been so long in the

tooth almost, like before it's even arrived that we could just all see it coming, really.

So it's the 992.2 Turbo S and it's been lacking, a turbo and Turbo S has been lacking from the new

generation of 911 for some time now. We've spoken at length on the podcast how Porsche has completely,

as you said, Andy, like remixed the lineup and the story of how the lineup develops is completely

different from the 992. Yeah, it changed, didn't it? Big time. 100%. You know, a lot of, I think,

external reasons are the main cause of it. Yeah. So we're getting used to perhaps a new way of

working and yes, exactly as you said, similar with that Porsche teasing us via its own social

media channels now. Yeah. But if you're a Porsche connoisseur and many people listening to this are,

just like you and I, Andy, you could pretty much work out what it was, you know, like the silhouette

of the car, you could see the turbo silhouette that we're all used to with the active aero on the

back of the car, you know, lack of a big GTS fixed wing. Yeah. The crest on the car was badged up

with the old turbanite hidden. Yeah, which we all know is it's hinting at the turbanite badge,

which is different from the usual Porsche crest with centre lock wheels, four wheel drive. And

you could even it was teasing sound, which is again new territory for Porsche, I would say,

but you could hear that hybrid system that those of us that have driven the GTS will be used to.

So yeah, you could you could pretty much guess what it was before Patrick Dempsey did the big

reveal for the live broadcast at Visak on a Sunday. Yes, they've kind of gone from

annoying journalists by releasing cars in the middle of the night to appeal to the California

market to and giving you the press release at the end of the UK working day to releasing on a weekend.

So I mean, I completely bypassed me. I was in the pub at the time.

So yeah, try new stuff. We don't we don't mind it. But if we could just have a normal

time on a weekday would possibly be better. Yeah, rather than getting in the way of a super Sunday.

But yeah, interesting stuff. So headline news. It's the most powerful road going production

Porsche 11 ever. Does that beat the GT2 RS? It does indeed. It does, doesn't it? Yeah,

just pips it. Yeah, yeah, by 11. Yeah, horsepower. So yeah, the GT2 RS was 700 HP,

992.2 turbo s 711. That record's been being held for quite a long time by that 97, though,

isn't it? Yeah, eight years, eight years. I know that the 991, 991 PDK car. Okay, that was the

yeah, that was 711. The 997, I think was 620. Okay, a measly 620 by by by by today's standard.

So yeah, it topples the the genuine Visac car with the GT2 RS for most powerful 911 headline

figures behind the 711 horsepower and 200 mile an hour top speed is the use of yeah,

that hybrid technology which we're used to from the introduction of the GTS. Yeah.

The main difference being with the GTS, there was one E turbo as part of the hybrid system

with the turbo s, there's two. Because you've obviously driven the GTS, what do you think

that's going to feel like? I'm struggling to, it will scramble the mind. Yeah. And even a thought

of it, you know, the thing is with that GTS and the drive that really stands out for me was the

rear wheel drive coupe version on track at a Skari race circuit. And I was following the previous

generation turbo s at the time. Yeah. And that GTS was unbelievably quick, unbelievably quick

point to point. So what a turbo s is going to do with that sort of power, it is frightening.

It is going to be proper scrambling, isn't it? Really is, really is. So that will be

interesting. I mean, you could say, you know, look, this car is so ridiculously quick now,

062 in 2.5 seconds, at top speed of 200 mile an hour. But 911 turbo s's have been ridiculously

quick for decades. Yeah, but I've been a bit, I don't want to say soulless, but noise has always

been a bit down, isn't it? There's not much emotion going on with the noise. But I remember

you specifically saying that the GTS sounded absolutely fantastic. So I wonder if that's

going to carry through to this turbo s and it's going to be a big switch on from the

previous turbos and turbo s's. Yeah, I hope so. I think the 992.1 generation car that had a lovely

soundtrack to it, it was the first time I think Porsche had really nailed the sportiness of the

soundtrack. It was the first time that actually a sport exhaust was available on the on the turbo.

So that did sound really, really good. So actually, we hope that's not lost now.

Yes, okay. What I would say is the GTS on board does sound great with its

hybrid technology for this generation car. It sounds a bit PlayStation-y,

but I don't mind it. I grew up on Gran Turismo, don't mind it at all. But so yeah, I'm hopefully

it'll have a decent soundtrack to it, but fair to be fair, I really do. Interestingly, the cost,

you can't look past the cost. This is a 200 mile an hour Porsche 911. It's also a 200,000 pound

Porsche 911. Do you remember when we were talking about the 50th? Just what seemed like a few weeks

ago or a few months ago, and we were like, that's expensive. And now I'm looking at that thinking.

Compared to that. To be honest with you, Andy, you've nailed it. I wanted to bring that up because

we predicted it to be fair. If you remember when we were reviewing that, we did say, look,

as the last turbo that we knew was going to just be purely combustion engine,

and with then analog taco, rather than the digital screens. Numbered series.

Yeah, as a numbered series car that actually, and this is where we can be as a media and as a

general enthusiast kind of population, we can be very quick to judge these cars in isolation.

But actually, if you look at that wider context, and this is why we said in our write up and our

feedback, actually, I think under the March time, it will prove to be well judged and won't need a

lot of time in order for that to happen. And I think we're there now. And actually,

you know, used examples of that turbo 50 are kicking around 200k. And again, like you said,

that's for the last combustion engine, turbo, analog taco, all in as well. So all options

considered this car is 200k plus options for the coupe 210k for the cab. And again, for context,

so that GT2 RS from 2018, that was, I think I've got the price here somewhere. It's 207k,

that was new. So this new turbo, I think, and I know there's a hell of inflation gone into the mix

in those intervening years. I think if you picked up a GT2 RS when you at least price,

you have just done exceedingly well, because the hike in price of all these cars,

incidentally, the 911.2 turbo, so released at the same time as that GT2 RS, which is a genuine

Visak Motorsport car, a turbo s at the time, was about 160k. So we're 40 grand on now in

less than 10 years. It is a heinous chunk of money. It almost feels like we're going to be

hitting the 997 scenario where dot ones are aplenty. There's thousands of dot ones, because it was

the high time. And this is going to be like 992 dot ones was the high time, you know, there was

turbos flying out of the door all over the place, wasn't there? People were thinking they were going

to make money and all that sort of stuff. And we're going to hit the 992.2s, which is going to be

like the 997.2s at minimal numbers, because I'm a bit scared of how many are going to sell,

to be honest. Again, it's another great point, because I was going to say to you,

I wonder how many of these we're actually going to see on the road. And I'm going to, you know,

let's play a game, put a number out there. I'm going to guess for the UK C16 cars, I reckon

there's going to be less than 300 of these. Do you reckon? I do. Yeah, over the lifetime of the car,

you know, this is before you factor in finance costs. And especially, you know, what was the

finance at the moment with interest? Is it around 910? Yeah, I have to look that up. Yeah.

You know, with Porsche approved finance, I need to check that. But like, it's big money. It's

big money. And this is kind of off the back of outside of a press car or a Porsche dealership

demo car. I've not seen a GTS, i.e. a hybrid GTS on the road in this country yet. No, if you

can't say I've been looking out for them, to be honest. Okay. Yeah, not not seen, not seen any,

you know, cars and coffees or on the motorways. You can, you can, you know, they're very distinctive

from the front, because they've got that different grille profile. Almost look like

yeah, yeah. So, you know, you'll be able to spot them. Honestly, I've just not just not seen them.

I've seen a couple of, you know, like base Carreras with the internal combustion engine.

But for these GTSs, I've just not seen any, they've been out for a year now.

Is it really? I've just not seen any. And this is a car that, you know, no one's ever going to

jump out of one of those and go, it's not fast enough. And with this being a 200k car now,

I just can't see many of them being shifted at all. So I'm going to say in the UK,

none on 2.2 is going to be less than 300 turbo s's.

Answers on a postcard. Yeah, we'll see. Answers on a postcard.

Indeed. So that's the turbo s download and review really outside of the specs, I guess.

So yeah, we've been on the road. Yeah. A nice little road trip up north. Sorry guys.

It sounds a bit derogatory, doesn't it, saying that?

No, not at all. I mean, you know, bearing in mind that for Andy and I down there on the

south coast, we live in two different parts of town, but we are in the same town and

there for anything north of Winchester, it gets a bit chilly for us, doesn't it?

Yeah, I was getting a nosebleed as we were driving up.

Pass the Watford Gat. Pass Winchester.

So yeah, we had a, we had a Fried Eggs and Friends at Porsche Center Leeds, which was

wonderful. Yeah, it was great, wasn't it?

Really, really good. But we just built it out into a bit of a weekend, really.

Yeah, we had a little road trip, didn't we?

It's lovely. And I have to say, Andy, because it was just you and I that bombed up from the coast,

you and your SC, myself and little Irish. And as I said to you when we stopped for lunch at some

point, even with just two cars, you know, that whole adventure. Yeah.

Well, it's exactly what it is. It's just a little adventure.

And it's just lovely seeing the other car in the wing mirror.

It's definitely bombing along, doesn't it?

Yeah. And among like the derriere of just ordinary boring cars, just to see that

perfected and iconic and timeless Porsche shape. Yeah.

And I say that because, you know, from a distance from, say, the rear, you know,

a Cayman looks the same as a 911. There's that design philosophy. It's all in the mix.

So it doesn't have to be a 911, but it was just fantastic. It really, really was.

Yeah, it's a great little trip. So really, really enjoyed that journey north.

We popped in on route to lead at charade UK, well, the HQ actually, at Canuck.

Yeah. First time I'd been up there. I was obviously meant to go up there for the award

ceremony, but we all know what happened there. I was at home in bed, gutted still to have missed

that. But there we go. But yeah, it was great to get up there and see what their facilities

like up there. Bloody impressive. I was going to say, what did you make of it then?

Yeah, it was really impressive. Just a great setup all round, isn't it? And everybody's

seems enthused and, you know, the places looked after and, yeah, seems very different to a lot

of other body shops that I've visited in the past, a dusty mess. It's nothing like that at all.

It's very surgical, most, which comes across from Steve. I met Steve a few times, Steve Shaw.

He's a well cut man, isn't he? And his businesses as well, I'd say.

Yeah. Yeah. It's clinical. Absolutely clinical in the way it's finished and presented. And the

other thing, I think we've mentioned this before, but, you know, like a good barometer of a business

is when you talk to the staff and how engaged they are with the ethos of the company. And what's

really clear there is the likes of Lee and Glenn and Mark, the general manager that Shua's around.

They absolutely are on board with that.

May I say Mark makes a marvellous cup of tea. Did you get a cup of tea or you missed out?

I might have missed out. Oh, yeah. Thank you, Mark.

Amazing cup of tea. Excellent.

I'll be up, up again.

Really good. Really good. Yeah, we've had a couple of friends, some cars have gone to

charade over the last year or two, and I have to say the feedback that we've got. And this

kind of why I wanted to pop in again and give the team at charade the feedback in terms of how

you're handled from the moment you make that call and say, oh, I'd like this repaired or,

you know, I want this restored, is really impressive. So we're hoping one of the team

can join us to talk through that in a bit more detail. But yeah, it was great. You know,

there's lovely none on 1.2 turbo s cab there that caught my eye. And that was about to like

undergo some repair work. But also they had an EV McCann turbo with its turbanite badges

that, yeah, unfortunately, had to come into contact with something at some point.

But you know, this is kind of the point that as soon as, as soon as Porsche releases a vehicle,

if you're a Porsche recommended repairer like charade, you have to be trained and skilled to

deal with that from day one, because someone could feasibly drive out the center of the dealership,

have an accident, and, and it's got to be repaired by someone that knows what they're doing,

particularly in reference to the new technology.

I'll tell you what was really interesting, because that the new McCann that they were repairing.

I think that was one of the first ones that has gone through some sort of repairs. And

it was Glenn that was taking me around and showing me around. And he was saying they

didn't have the methods yet. They had to ask for the methods. So they got the methods on how to

repair the McCann. But because they're so like, well respected in what they do, they were actually

going back with feedback to change the methods. Because obviously the methods are a theory.

It's not actually been done yet. But they were feeding back, you know, that they found

things to do that were done in a, they could do it in a better way. So they were able to

feedback on those early methods that received. And that was with Porsche?

Yeah, with Porsche. Yeah. Back in Stuttgart to actually improve the way that these cars are

repaired. So yeah, they're on the forefront, as it were.

Awesome. Absolutely awesome. I mean, someone has done some incredible service then in

biffing a wall or whatever it was because it's big ball art. It's become a learning care for

everybody. So yeah, that was with the, I think I might have said hybrid earlier on. I meant EV,

if that was the case, but yeah, the EV McCann Turbo. So yeah, all sorts going on. It was awesome to

to pop in and see all of that. And again, great, great people at charade UK. And there's a new

site actually open for charades empire. There's a new one at Tumbridge now. Yes. Yeah. So we've got

Canock HQ and Bristol, Cheltenham and now Tumbridge. Yeah, I don't know if Tumbridge's open yet.

I believe it's the start of next month. Oh, is it? Okay. Yeah. So yeah, really,

really cool. So yeah, lovely to, lovely to pop into charade en route to Porsche centre Leeds.

And Steve came along to Leeds, bought his 993. Yes. Yeah. So it's good to chat with him.

With his lad as well. Yeah. So but yeah, the night before Fridays and Friends, we met up with some

members of the DNHC. Yeah. It's a lovely evening meal. Had a bit of dinner. It's great. Good to

see everybody. Good bit of chin wagon. Yeah. Yeah, really, really, really was lovely to meet the

Northern contingent. And I've got a funny story actually. So I sit next to Johnny. And straight

away he said, Leigh, I've got a bone to pick with you. I'm afraid in regard to your content.

I said, go on, Johnny, enlighten me. And you'll remember at the start of this year,

we did Heritage car parts, we did our cost of running a Porsche. Yeah.

Oh, God, yeah. I'd introduced that metric of, you know, once you work out your like annual

running costs, like to do the cost per mile. Yeah. And Johnny did that. I won't say on which car,

but eight pound a mile, eight pound a mile. And he said, I regret the day I ever sat down

with a paperwork to work that out. I don't believe that would have been communicated internally.

I at home. Yeah. So, Johnny, as long as you're watching this podcast on your own,

or listen to it on your own, then you might have got away with it. If not, as an apology coming.

I bet that number has reduced. If it's the car that he's just taken away to Norway,

I bet the average cost per mile has drastically reduced because he's just done a big trip

around Norway, isn't he? Yeah. See, I think he's still out there, isn't he? Is he still out there?

I think so, yeah. Yeah. He shipped his car over. I don't know how he shipped it. He just left,

took it to the port and they shipped it over, didn't they? Yeah. And then he flew over and has done

tour of Norway. And in fact, he met up with one of the DNHC out there, Simon,

who's in Stravanga. Have I pronounced that correctly? Let's go with it, Andy. Yeah.

Something like that. There was a call from Johnny one late one evening,

help. Does anybody know anybody in Stravanga or surrounding area? I need somebody to weld

a bit of my exhaust up. And I thought, Simon, that we met in Norway, he came up to Granger

with us. Yeah, he's been twice now this year. Yeah. I think in fact, the first year he wasn't a

member of the DNHC yet, was he? But he joined not long after. Remembered that he was in Stravanga.

I've pronounced it another different way. I'm really murdering it.

Love it. Yeah, put them in contact. And yeah, managed to find a garage, sorted Johnny's exhaust

out. I think he welded shut his valve or something that had come undone. I think he put a tack on

it before and it had come undone. So yeah, the power of the DNHC. The power of the DNHC,

indeed, that is amazing. And yes, Johnny, after your eight pound a mile calculation,

I hope you're quite literally well down the road with that figure now. And as we've recently

realised online works, the new motto should be the more you drive, the more you save. Absolutely.

Johnny's experience being testament to that. So yeah, really good to see those guys. But yeah,

I think that the reason we were up north was for the next day with our Fridays and friends at

Porsche Center Leeds. Yeah, thank you, Wayne for the sorting everything out. Wayne Marnier,

a DNHC member also works at Porsche Leeds. He is head of Classic, isn't he? Yeah.

And what a great day it was. It was all absolutely awesome. It was really good to get a good old

poke around the site really in a bit of the business. I don't know about you, but like I've

been very aware of JCT 600, the owners of Porsche Center Leeds for years, to be honest with you,

years and years. So yeah, really, really good to have a look around. We've got a little bit of

a quick history handy if you're happy to entertain it. Yeah, I think we should do.

On JCT. So for those that don't know, JCT 600, to quote the full name,

that was founded in 1946 by Edward Tordoff, but it gained its name from the personalised

number plate, believe it or not. Love that story. Of Edward's son, Jack Tordoff, who won the Circuit

of Ireland rally. And that was in a Porsche 911, by the way. I think it was his auntie's number

plate. Really? I think so, yeah. Interesting. Well, it was in 1973 and the number plate was

JCT 600. So from a single garage, JCT 600 grew into a major family run automotive retail business

with what is described as a significant presence in Yorkshire and the surrounding areas. And

certainly in terms of the Porsche dealership network up there, JCT owns a couple of others as

well. I think there's a satellite one in York. Teaside as well is under that. Sheffield too.

Sheffield as well. Yeah, well played. Yeah, where we've also done a Friday with some friends

previously. So it's quite an empire. I think today the centre, well it still remains family run,

obviously. But I think aside from Porsche centre, Southlakes, which we called Northlakes for about

two years until we looked it up, is also family run. So aside from that, it's kind of a unique

set up to the network, really. And in terms of physical footprint, I think the big thing that

I took away from was just the sheer size. It was a monster. I'm not aware, and this includes HQ

at Reading, I'm not aware of a bigger Porsche site in the UK than that. It is absolutely massive.

Yeah, it's huge, isn't it? I can't believe what they're doing, looking to do, well, I'm sure we

go into that later in the mods they're doing to the centre with guys. Yeah, yeah, big revamp

in coming as part of like Porsche GB's like mission for destination Porsche. Yeah, really.

But yeah, lots to fit in there, particularly with Leeds being a classic partner, one of like the

half dozen in the UK, really. So it's a really cool place, whether you are an owner,

fan or aficionado of modern metal, but also classic as well these days. So really, really good. We

were so chuffed to Porsche Centre Leeds for letting us rock up with a load of DNHC members and

wide up 9mox TV subscribers as well in fairness to make what was a really lovely, fun morning.

Had a good vibe, didn't it? It did, yeah, it was a really good vibe. Yeah, nice, relaxed,

enthusiastic, lots going, lots of good chats going on, good people smiling, drinking good coffee.

Yeah, it was great. Yeah, yeah. It was, did you know that we were going to have our cars put in

the showroom for the morning? No, that was a bit of a surprise. It was a fun surprise. I would have

washed mine if I didn't know. I tell you what, you know, if you own 175,000 mile, 28-year-old 996,

you know, the last place it should be is in the showroom next to a brand Spankers new Carrera T,

because every stone chip and rock mark and swell mark, the whole thing

showed up there under the magnifying glass of showroom lights. Those lights, yeah, they do fire

off everything there. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, it was frightening actually to see it all, but

also really cool to sit in a showroom, you know, as those cars did once upon a time for the first

time when their first custodian was collecting the car. So yeah, really cool, cool gesture from

Wayne. So thank you, buddy. Yeah, thank you for, for all the organization. It was great, Nick,

did well. We have got a conversation with a couple of the guys from Porsche leads from that morning,

have we not? We have, including Wayne. Including Wayne. And Mark, who is, is that new car sales

manager? Yeah, new business, really. Yeah, new business. So yeah, good to chat with them. Should

we roll the roll the roll VT roll VT. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Nightmourn's radio and

welcome to Porsche centre leads. Thank you all for coming along for fried eggs and friends today.

We are joined. We've got two guests from Porsche centre leads. We're very, very grateful that you

guys have let us rock up on a sunny Saturday morning. Thank you for coming along. I should introduce

you first. So we've got Wayne, classic brand manager. Thank you. At Porsche centre leads,

and then we've got Mark, who's general manager, heading up new car sales. Yeah. Excellent. So

I feel like we've got a foot in either camp. So if you don't like the showroom cars, that's my fault,

sorry. That's where Wayne comes in then from there. Exactly. Well, I think my showroom cars are far

better. You've got a bit of a competition going on. What do we think? Who's won? Some good classic

cars in there, apart from the Irish green car and the slate grey. But I guess we'll, we'll get on to

that. Yeah. Very, very shortly. So yeah, look, as we said, like we're so grateful that you guys have

let us rock up here. This is a really interesting centre. We had a little bit of a tour earlier

on that Wayne, you showed us around. I'm absolutely astounded by the footprint of this place. I think

feels bigger, particularly with the work that you're going to do, which we'll talk about,

but in terms of footprint, it feels bigger than even Porsche GBHQ at Reading. Sizeable place.

Well, so yeah, we're going to go for redevelopment. I've done it ready in about two weeks ago,

see what they've done. That's destination Porsche. So what you've got there is different areas.

The showroom, you've got an electric area, classic area. Well, what we're going to go to is we're

going to change our prep area. So where you see the service park behind us, that's going to move

behind Ferrari. So eventually this will be a whole U shape around the building for new and used cars.

So the current development is going on. So behind Ferrari, that's going to be our prep centre.

Then we go down the road to where Bentley used to be. That's currently going to be used by

yours probably middle of next year as a showroom, while this showroom will be done completely.

We'll have a specific area for classic then with the ramp in its own destination area.

So if you go to a newer centre like Nottingham or Reading, that's the start and that's what will

become to another level. Excellent. Absolutely awesome. It feels like, and maybe our DNHC members

that live up here might be better placed to opine about this than me, but this kind of feels like

a bit of a terms of Porsche dealers like the hub of the North. Yeah, it is like I actually come from

Manchester every day. So I've worked at Wilmsdale Porsche previously. You go over the Pennines,

you've got a lot of sensors within five miles of all, within 40, 50 miles of each other.

This is the second oldest Porsche centre or Leeds is when we had Blocksons previously.

So overall, it's us, then you're up to York, you're up to Sheffield. So we do dominate the area.

You know, as a centre, we get probably double the volume of cars on the centre. So we are a big,

big centre. So sometimes our lead times are different because of the size and the footprint

that we've got, basically. Doing a bit of like research at the end of last series, we had a

podcast episode where we were talking about iconic license plates. And then I didn't realise with

JCT 600, basically the name of the business formed from the license plate. Yeah, some initials and

the license plate. Really cool. Let's share the story for those that don't know that, if you

wouldn't mind, Wayne. I'm just trying to remember what it's about. But basically, yeah, JCT relates

to, was it his aunties? Yeah, his aunties initials. And then 600 came from a plate.

Yeah. That was Jack, wasn't it? Yeah, that's Jack Tordoff. Yeah. Most iconically seen on the 73 RS,

which you've valid. He actually won the Tour of Ireland in that car. And came third in the

championship, I believe, behind. Just check my notes. It was Roger Clark. So a bit of a

brilliant driver there as well. He previously raced Saabs with a V4 engine. So he's a massive

motorsport. No, and that's carried on through the family as well. We've got Sam Tordoff, who's done

the Carrera Cup. More famous as a touring car driver. Now does more historic racing. And then

we've got John Tordoff as well. He does a lot of historic racing now as well. So we've got a real

heritage behind us as well. There's a wonderful article online from 2012, where Sam, I think as

a 17 year old, got to drive his grandfather's 2.7 RS Lightweight as well, might I add, one of 17.

And that was the first ever car driven on the road. Yes. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks

very different from when Jack had it. When Jack had the car, he's red. We actually found some,

we did a film night for classic, I think it was last year or the year before. We actually found a

little tiny bit of 8 mil footage on the internet somewhere of it bounds, literally bouncing through

a forest on this unmade road. And it just looks amazing. A great little piece of footage we found.

And we used that little segment in our introduction to film night. And it's great to see it bright red.

And then when Sam tested of that, it changed to white and it had the

red decals down the side as well. Yeah, yeah. I know JCT is going to celebrate a big milestone

next year and being 80 years old as a company, as a group, being Porsche brought into the group in

1967. So there's huge longevity and history to the company. I think what makes JCT different,

although it's not the only one, but what makes it different from a lot of Porsche

centres in the network is, you know, it's still family owned. Does that create an advantage

for you guys? I'm sure you're going to say yes. I think it does. Yeah. Yeah. He gives us, you know,

I personally know Sam. I personally know John. I look after a couple of John's cars.

I used to work under Sam when I pretty much worked at another part of the business.

Sorry about Sam. The first time I started the job, I was a mechanic from Maserati.

I was walking through the car park. He'd never met before. Good morning, Wayne. How are you?

Nice to see you. That's the first word I thought it was about. And that says it all,

I think, about the company. Here at Porsche Leads, it's very much a family. We're all friends.

You can work some places and it's not the greatest, but this is a great little place.

You feel welcome. We all have a laugh of joke. There's lots of socialising going on. You play

a golf with a lot of the team. We are a family from a family values that we have, basically. So

I've got a team in sales where people have been here three years, 15 years. So you'll see a

familiar face from the sales department if you've been buying from a period of time, basically,

which is very rare in this industry. I've been here five years, Wayne's been here seven and a half

years. We're all car enthusiasts, just like yourselves. So it's just nice to spend time with

enthusiasts, really. And the family let us do that. Yes, we've got KPIs and Matrix, but it's all

about people. We've got the right people working for us. We've got relationships from you guys,

basically. So it's a great turnout today for Wayne. Thank you. I know, mega stuff. Actually,

again, Wayne, just before this morning started, and you were just giving us a bit of a sneak peek

into some embryonic design plans for the centre and changing. But the mooted area for classic

is sizeable. And it's really nice to see, because most people, I think, here today

drive a car that would perhaps fall under classic program defined by Porsche as a car that's

out production for 10 years, right? It's quite nice to see

us as owners being thought of in that way. The role was created a couple of years ago.

I actually saw it advertised on the JCT. We get emails through these jobs available in JCT.

I was working in JCT as a workshop manager somewhere at another site. And I just looked at the job

and thought, I want that job. I want that job. I think I remember seeing you at Sheffield and

you'd either just got it or you were applying for it. I just got it and I spoke to you guys.

And so yeah, the idea of having you guys here was in my head then. That's how I saw it going.

When I went for the interview, my idea was I want Porsche Leeds to be the centre of

ownership. I want it to be somewhere where people can come just dropping for a coffee and a chat.

I've got several customers who just literally do that. They'll drop in for a chat and pick some

parts up or come in for the car servicing and we'll end up chatting for an hour or so. It's

quite dangerous at times, really, talking to fellow enthusiasts. And I really wanted it to be a

political community. I wanted to really drive it forward in terms of what we offer with Classic.

Often you see that OPCs are seen as not being open for classic owners of classic cars. We are,

especially here, we're a classic partner. It's fundamental to what we do. The history

is important and we need to look after these cars. So if you've got your early 911s,

your 996s and 997s, they're all welcome. We want you here. We want to be able to service your car,

we want to be able to supply parts, give you advice and just have a laugh and a coffee with

you as well. It's all part and parcel what we do. And I think part of the reason I got this job is

because of that passion I've got. Ultimately, I am a Porsche fan. I was the kid with the

poster on the wall. Somebody must remember these. When I talk about it, people don't remember them.

They was like a black background with a car in front of it, white Lamborghini. There was a Ferrari

and a red Blackbell 930. I had the red Blackbell 930. That was my favorite. And

being a technician through the years, worked on classics, et cetera. Occasionally the Porsche

and the Porsche always had something special. You know yourself, you get behind the steering wheel

and you get a nice little smile across your face. It's a passion for me.

You said you've worked on other brands in the past. What did you find different about Porsche

from those brands? For me, they make sense in terms of how they put together, how they operate.

I do get an emotional connection with the engines. You start an air-cooled engine up,

there's something there, balancing the set carbs. It's pleasurable. And with the later cars as well,

you plug into them, you listen to what it's telling you, you know, you get a set of fault codes

and they will lead you down a path that you need to fix that vehicle. But it tells you a

path that makes sense. I used to work for Maserati. Nothing made sense on them cars.

So it's an engineered car rather than a... Oh, definitely, definitely. Yeah, very much an engineered

car. Years and years ago, I remember there was a little say, I can't remember the exact model of it,

and Porsche had the input onto that car. It had a car spring on the back. A friend of mine had it.

And that thing handled. But the car spring on the back.

I think if you, to get a slightly geeky on it, if you look at Porsche's, Porsche Agee's full title,

and it's, you know, Dr. Porsche of Engineering. So it's an engineering company that makes sports cars

as opposed to a sports car manufacturer, right? And that's why Visak, there's a lot of

projects that go on way beyond automotive that we don't see. They're lint, forklift

trucks, for example, cop pits for Boeing, or absolutely all sorts goes on at Visak way beyond

the machines that we all drive. But to go back to it, you know, and again, like looking around the

room here and seeing lots of friendly, familiar faces from the DNHC that have put in great miles

to be here, we say all the time on this podcast, nobody needs to own a Porsche. We choose to,

often for our sins, right? Particularly us 996 owners. But, you know, it's, it's so, and even

to be here, we all want to be here today. It's so important that that enthusiasm is matched by

you guys, ultimately. And that's why it's great to walk in and see all these, you know, old cars

alongside the new stuff as well, because they all contribute equal parts to the brand.

Oh, definitely. Yes, definitely. Porsche have a massive supply of parts for these older cars.

I think I was saying last night when we went to Andy, they even make a dashboard for the 924,

the other cars with the three dials. They're susceptible to cracking. They even make a dash.

It's only available in black. But it's available. They've made that part. If you went to Ferrari or

Audi and ask them for a part of a similar age, they'll probably laugh at you.

So having that parts back up is essential. And it helps us keep these cars going.

And yeah, I think really going forward, there's going to be more things coming out.

There's a few little electric components, electronic components that coming out for

the older cars as well. They've recently brought out LED lights, headlight bulbs for the cars.

They're not available in the UK as yet. So I'm hoping they're going to get

sort of a ticket to say yes, so we can sell them. So I think they've sold really well

for the G-Bodies and the 996 particularly. So yeah, Porsche have really interested in what

they're doing here. Just going like, because where this is a classic partner, isn't it, for

Porsche? What does that mean? Aside from, Mark, you've had to cede some real estate

to Wayne with classic space in the showroom. Yeah, probably a few years you had the choice

of the poor sense to be classic or do Sonderwurst. You had a choice of which way you went.

We've gone classic just to keep the history of the company that we've had as a family values

for what they've driven before basically. So on that side, bringing in Wayne, we're probably

more after sales currently because the market goes up and down as it does. The key thing is,

we're here for you for whatever you need. If it's to find a car that we sent to Australia about a

year ago, or is it basically to find a part or a dash, that's what a classic sensor offers.

It offers that one-stop shot if you need it, but we might have to find one for you.

But likewise, we've got the resource around us. We've got a group by has been here probably,

I think it was his 40th year, wasn't it, Wayne? Yeah, 40 years. Michael Betts has been here 40

years. So the connections he's got are unbelievable to where we'll send cars to or find cars from.

So we can do that. But then we've got Wayne's knowledge. I went to Wayne. I went to Gilbert,

didn't we? About two and a half years ago when it just started there. His knowledge is unbelievable

to help you guys for the knowledge that you probably have on that generation of cars. So

we've got a team of people around you to help you on that side. Okay. So that kind of covers

the classic bit, but it kind of being rolled out eventually it'll go nationwide where these

Porsche centres like we're standing in today become like destination Porsche. That's the big

project, isn't it? I know you guys, that's kind of part of the refit. Again, what does that mean?

What does that mean for us? What will change? It's more visual. This is a bit of an area.

We're going to have a bigger area for you. So you feel more included. You know,

everyone's included with the brand. And that's new, old and then clubbing that classic area

to a higher level is what's needed to take it to another level for people who are joining it for

the first time. You know, you fill your part of the journey and you definitely are. Awesome. I

actually love that. Is it possible to take us through some of the cars that we're seeing over

there, Wayne? Oh, yeah. That's an interesting little sample. There's a couple of dodgy ones

towards the right there. Yeah, I think through the other ones. They just appeared this morning.

I don't know who brought them in. So we've got a little rent spot. That's just been in for a

couple of minor leaks, is that with us? Yeah. Gentlemen, let me show it today. Yeah, they met

him earlier. Nice guy. Yeah, he's a really nice guy. I think he's left now. Yeah, yeah. He's a guy

called Andy, his friend. He contacted me. I did some work on his GT3. Yeah. And then

we brought the rent supporting as well. And so we're going to look after that for going forward

as well. Next week, we've got the C2993 in yellow. That car, Mike Betts actually originally sold.

Oh, really? So it's a JCT car? Yeah, it's a JCT car. Yeah. So that it's got a pivot

checkered history in terms of it's really well looked after. But unfortunately,

it was next to an electric car that set a fire. Yeah, yeah. So it's the right and left hand side

was damaged. It's a new rear bumper. The bodywork majority of it is original. It's been repainted.

The customer recently bought the vehicle, brought it to us for us to look after.

So we've put the PCM in that, the classic PCM, done a bit of a service and going through a little

bit of a fault with the sunroof, but nothing major. It's a great little car. What a strange

bit of history that is. Yeah, it's great that it's come back again. I just love those stories where

things come back to us. Then we've got the bright orange 996. I think we'd call that punchy, wouldn't

me? Yeah. Yeah. You can't be shy driving that, can you? Now you tell me that that is a factory

painted car. Yeah. Yeah, it's PTS. I'm not sure of the colour. Yeah. It's not golf. It's too bright.

Yeah, it's not golf. Proper punchy orange. That is Michael Betts. It's his son's car.

He's picked it up. He did the gumball. He's taken the majority of the stickers off

when he's bought it. Apparently, that's the spec it came with, the buckets, the cage and

everything. Wow. It was a Russian oligarch or something that originally specced that car.

So that's why it's a little bit above what anyone else would choose. That's a 996 C4S,

orange buckets, cage, got various other mods, isn't it? I'm just going through it,

so that the listener can visualise what they're basically hearing.

And then on the classic stand, we've got a really, really, really nice premium URLs, PTS,

yellow 993 Turbo. Yeah. That's an absolutely stunning car. I borrowed that off a gentleman

who, I suppose, a lot of new cars offers. Supercar similar one of our salesmen.

He knows the guy and managed to get that in for me. He actually drove it here

and packed it in there for me. I've not driven it yet. Fingers crossed I'll get to at some point.

Great drive. Great drive. Awesome. Awesome.

Jux deposed, I guess, by the manual Carrerati cab at the back for a bit of modern metal.

Yeah. Yeah. I really like the Carreratis. Yeah. We love them here at 911. Yeah.

We were chatting to some DNHC as earlier on. I think the greatest barometer you can give

for the Carreratis is that Andy B as an old... Fuddy-duddy.

Yeah, old, I just realised. But yeah, you know, like air-cooled dude,

you know, like you were absolutely evangelising over there, which the biggest compliment you

can give that car. We've got one of our best customers, big Ferrari customer,

big customer. We had a lovely white car, aero kit, T, and basically when that came to

show me the blue decals, he's like, that just took him back 20 years.

You know, so the visual look of that car doesn't have to be the fastest car.

Yeah. But it handles amazing. It just looks like it used to look.

So you'll see the T's like that one there. We'll have probably the grey decals and the

grey mirrors on. So we had a white car with the blue one and you have a wooden gear stick

on the manual box. Takes you back to where we used to be. So people still value that

even though they can have a range of other cars at the same time.

Sorry. Well, I was going to say, so again, as journalists can say that that is an

absolutely fabulous car, a really, really fabulous car. Highlight of the 992.2 away from GT lineup.

But like in terms of sales, they haven't set the place alight. You know, why do you think that is?

So we were saying to someone earlier, during 2020, you had a massive order bank, you know,

with COVID cars were running really, you know, getting silly money back for your car.

So you're running a car for a low value. Since then, there's been price increases

that have come around, basically. So there are new directs that came into Porsche GV.

She asked for more volume of cars. We've got more volume. It's trying to get a balance of volume

supply and demand. We've probably just had a bit too much supply in the market. And that's now

coming back down to a level where we've got a better level, basically. There is some offers out

there, because there's some stock out there. But when they've gone, it goes back to as it used to be.

So yeah, a bit different at the minute. Okay, interesting, interesting feedback.

I think it's about time we opened up to the floor. Has anybody got any questions?

Doesn't have to be on the centre. We could get geeky with some cars that you want to ask the experts.

Don't make me pick on someone. You need Manga's walker here.

Excellent. Alex, pass you over.

Hi, guys. So question from me. If money, no object, what Porsche would you go for?

I'll let you answer that first. It'd have to be a 918. I saw one about five years ago.

Took out the showroom. It just looked epic. It was like Donnington last week. Saw a black one in

there and it just says as a brand what we can offer. It's just different level and it didn't look

12 year old car and it looks a bit probably even older than that now.

So that is definitely a car that if you drive in every day, it'll feel very, very special.

So that's the reason why. I could answer that by just asking you a lot of questions and

what do I have to buy it for? Is it every day? Is it? I think ultimately 934 RSR

road spec. I just think they're a fantastic looking car. The sound incredible. I've driven

original 930 turbos with a four speed manual and they are ballistic. For how little brake

horsepower they have, they feel as quick as any modern day car to drive them. You're probably

not traveling that fast comparatively, but it just feels quicker. It's the feeling you get

when you drive that car. So I think the 934 RSR will just be on another level. Unfortunately,

I don't have a million and a half quid for one of those. I think that's good timing that Wayne's

picked that, isn't it? Because this morning, it went live, didn't it? A video on, oh, is it

tomorrow morning? Yeah, it's Sunday tomorrow, isn't it? Yeah. Well, yeah, this, it will be live on

time. This comes out. This time this comes out. Yeah, tomorrow morning, 9am or 9 11, what time

is it released? 9am, yeah. 9am is a great video on Lee driving a 934 over in Belgium.

Oh, fantastic. The lucky man. A distinctly above average day at work. Fantastic. Any other

questions that we can fire to the team? Thank you for being brave and going first.

There must be some somewhere. Excellent. Please introduce yourself as well. Just a quick question

to the four of you. Which cars do you currently own and drive?

So, so today I'm driving up to Scotland today, because we've got our national golf events,

so I'm going up to Lott Lowman today. So this weekend, I've got my kanji chest for the weekend. So

one sales guy just says, look, you need to go on a proper route. She's not going up the motorway,

so we're literally going through air, trune. So I've got like, it's four hours to six hours,

but you know what's worth it? It's in a petrol car. So don't drive that every day, unfortunately. We

have an electric car and that's, that does the job. That's what it does, gets me to work.

But this will be more fun on the way down there, all the way up there.

Well, I've got a company car, which is a VDBU Arteon, which is a great A2B car. And then at home

in my garage with the engine in bits, unfortunately at the moment, I've got a 1978 VDBU Camper.

So champagne edition. So it's got very, very 70 stripes. It's quite a cool thing.

But unfortunately, the engine let me down. So I've got to rebuild that. So that's in bits,

currently collecting parts, which are quite hard to come by for good quality parts these days for

those engines. I drive that old 78 SC over there. Yep. Excellent. Yes, I've got the Irish Green

996 at the back, which is colloquially termed Little Irish. It's kind of the Nine Works work

van, really, on the way home back down to Dorset. Later on, it will hit 175 K. It's very much

driven, not hidden in line with our Nine Works mantra. And then I've got a 40th anniversary,

which is very much hidden, not driven 55,000 miles. And funny, actually, I've just sawn

there. It's probably a conversation for another day to explore on the podcast, but this sort of

time of year where it goes away, I think I've done a thousand miles in it this year, which is

sacrilege really. It should be far higher. But I always think maybe I should get into something

else. And it's kind of this, the peaks and troughs you have of a seasonal car, really, I guess.

It's very different to the car you can drive every day. And there's always instant gratifications

as you jump in Little Irish as a car to be used all year round. But I go through this like winter

lull as the car hibernates in the garage. It kind of my enthusiasm for it hibernates, I think is

fair to say. And usually it gets to April, it goes back on the road and I fall in love with it again.

But this time year, I always start thinking,

what's next? Yeah, I guess so, you know, like, again, just trying to be sensible with it. It's

and I've said this on the podcast before, it's almost too nice for me and what it is.

And trying to look after myself for a rainy day, never make myself rich by any stretch of

the imagination, but trying to be vaguely sensible for it. But then, you know, we're here for a good

time, not a long time. And that kind of goes against the grain in that regard. So, yeah,

this time of year is always a difficult one to be honest. Is this an advert for a 40th anniversary?

It comes with the luggage kit. Former owner was the Oasis drummer, which is very timely at the

moment. So, yeah, come and have a chat afterwards, I guess. But, you know, again, it's just one

of those. I know this is the thing we constantly play, don't we? And our own mind as enthusiasts is,

you know, do we stick or twist? Gus and I had a wonderful conversation earlier on that actually,

sometimes the very best car is the one you're already sitting in. Little Irish probably ticks

that for me. But yeah, again, as a seasonal car, it kind of does have kind of peaks and troughs,

really, and should be driven more with that. I think also, a lot of times I have conversations

with people who are looking to gain to porches and classic porches. And it's

knowing what to buy in the first place and how to buy it. And I think, for me, you've got to

let your heart lead a little bit, but also keep your head screwed on. You speak to many people

who buy a classic 911, whether it be a 997, an SC, and they've bought it because they've fallen in

love with the car. And then they get it home, get to their local specialist or the dealership,

and it's a basket case. Always have your car inspected, get advice beforehand,

speak to guys, you know, get involved with NineWorks, get involved with your dealership,

speak to them, see what they think. People are always, always welcome to drop me an email and

we can have a conversation. And you really got to do research before you go and buy a classic

or any 911 and ensure that it's the soundest car you can afford. And if you're buying that car,

because you really love it, and expect that you really want, but you know something's wrong with it,

make sure you make a plan going forward how you're going to look after that car.

Mark, do you sell any classics here? Last few years has changed because the

market's changed really, so about five years ago we used to, then we slowed down a bit really.

Do you think that's going to change with the expansion of the showroom here?

It will change slightly, and then also if you think of just the way your electrification is

going, you know, there is always going to be demand for a petrol car, always.

So it's probably going to grow on that basis, yes. So for those of you who want to be more

connected with you guys, if you've got a car to service them, to bring them in, to look after them,

you to come to us, then we'll find all the cars for you, basically, on that side,

you know, because we'll have might buying cars at the same time, so it will grow, yes.

Yes, see that happening. We've definitely seen that happening down at Bournemouth,

they're a classic approved centre as well, and they've got quite a few older

classics for sale now, so yeah, we're good to see that coming here as well.

Yeah, without a doubt. Superb. Okay, well look, shall we give away some prizes?

Yes. Yeah, shall we do that, which Mark and Wayne can help out?

Yeah. Again, there's a couple of prizes from Porsche Centre Leeds. We've got one as well,

again, fitting in with Driven or Hidden, as we're known for, we wanted to give something away.

We did initially moot furthest travelled, but then we realised we would win that, probably,

having come up from the South Coast, so we'd better change that.

Yeah, I think we're going to go furthest, furthest that you've, you know, the most amount of miles

that you put on your car this year, so yeah, anybody got any big numbers of, you know,

have they done any big trips and, you know, really piled on the miles? I think there's got to be a

few round, or there's a hand-rise. This is like an auction, but it's just for a t-shirt.

Someone all beat me, but I bought my 718 GT4 in the middle of May, and in

eight weeks, put seven and a half thousand miles on it.

Eight weeks? Yeah, driving to France and driving around North Wales, so.

Okay. And it's a club sport, and it's not very comfortable.

How's your back?

I think that car must have been on, like, an automotive treadmill since May.

Just keep going. That is pretty epic.

Have you got any rises on that? So eight weeks of ownership and seven thousand miles,

does anybody get anywhere near that? Well, Alex, I think you take the prize.

You must have a fuel card as well, I hope, because that's absolutely insane.

Yeah. So we've got a couple of money can't buy prizes here. We've got a prototype hat

that unfortunately we didn't get enough purchases of, so we haven't made it anymore yet.

So you're not really selling it at this point, Andy.

It's a great hat. I love it. And also you've got one of these t-shirts, which again was

a prototype with the stuff on the back where nobody else has got that, and a little pin as well.

So if you want to come up and grab those, it's an extra large, so it might swamp you a little bit.

Yeah. Well played. Absolutely superb. Super. Very good. Very good.

Excellent. And we've got a couple of hats to give away. One of these mugs, which is the,

to go with the new car, what was that? The Spirit 70. Very much like that. Very good.

And then the big prize is the experience center.

I think I'll just choose some people from random.

Go for it, yeah. See who's actually popped the name in there.

Let's just see where I land.

First prize for a Martini racing hat.

Alex Kotterell. Alex.

There we go.

Oh, hold on, Alex.

Oh, why? Bad. So bad. Still in the front.

Shall we go for another hat?

Yeah.

What do we call this one?

A head.

A head Southwest.

Yeah.

2024. It sort of reminds me a bit of Olga Star, though.

Yeah, it does. Yeah.

You know, the old stripes on there.

Andrew Betteridge.

Yeah.

Well played.

Here he comes.

Well played.

So it's you, sir.

So could you pop?

And for a mug.

For the mug, Andy Riddick.

I think Andy has just gone.

Oh, is he gone?

Yeah. All right, I'll pull someone else out.

Reload, yeah.

If he's not here, he's not here.

Missed it.

Missed out.

We've got the cavalry are coming in.

Brian Butterworth.

Well done, Brian.

There's the box there for you as well.

Enjoy your brew.

Would that be a Yorkshire brew going in there?

Lancashire brew.

Love it.

The big prize.

The big prize for the single person to go to Silverstone

and do the driving experience.

Jim Walker.

Jim Walker, are you here?

Silence.

Is it?

Is that?

I can see someone pointing, but...

Jim Walker.

No.

Reload.

No, reload.

Sorry, Jim.

Don't talk up.

You don't get your prize.

Alex Brody.

The doctor.

Oh, the doctor.

The doctor, Alex Brody.

Superb.

What does he get?

Pick that poster off the wall.

That's your prize.

That's it.

Excellent.

Never won anything in my life before.

Have you ever?

Can we just clarify, will Alex get to drive a new product?

Because Alex's 996 failed his MOT yesterday.

It won't go around the track, did it?

You did get a lift, didn't you?

Yeah, I got a lift from James Taylor.

Fantastic.

I might have to give James a little go in the car then.

Superb.

Yeah, thank you.

Well done.

Thanks for mentioning the MOT failure.

If it doesn't affect future sales.

It'll be fine.

So, well done.

Pleasure.

Nice one.

Superb.

Nice one.

Thank you, Alex.

Thank you to everybody for coming along to create such a warm and friendly atmosphere today.

Like typical nine works, to be honest.

We just ask people for everything we do, whether it's an event or a road trip,

just turn up with good vibes, a little bit of patience, and a load of positivity as well.

And I've really felt that today with the conversations we've had.

And again, I know people have put in some great miles to get here as well.

An honourable mention as well for DNHC's Mike and Simon who went and got us an SD card

because we came all this way and forgot to bring it to record this today.

So, thank you for that.

And again, just thank you so much for making the effort to come out on a Saturday morning.

Thanks to Mark and Wayne and the brilliant team here at Porsche Centre Leeds

for showing us around.

And again, just making us feel so welcome.

So, everybody, thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you, Anne-Marie and Ken.

Thank you.

Cheers, guys.

Thanks so much, Wayne.

That's mega, mega.

Thank you, Mark.

Nice one, dude.

Amazing.

That was Mark and Wayne from Porsche Centre Leeds.

Top morning.

Thank you.

Indeed, yeah.

Thank you again.

Yeah, really, really good stuff.

Love to get back up there at some point soon.

Yeah.

Can I do a quick spread the love for JCT and supplying the coffee and the pastries on the day?

I don't know if you've got to spread the love, but that's mine for this week.

Yeah.

Yeah, happy to go with that.

Good.

Yeah, it was free coffee, and it was good coffee as well, more importantly.

So, yeah, big props to sorting that out for us.

Good.

Should we do Gem of the Week?

Yep, Gem of the Week.

I'm staying with Turbo S, Andy B.

Are you?

Yeah, it's a loose theme of today.

It's not that white one that was at Leeds, was it?

No, but you know what, it was.

Yes, that was a Turbo 50.

That was a Turbo 50, yeah.

And that is up for like slap bang on 200, 200 notes.

It looked really good in white, didn't it?

Really good.

Really different.

Didn't have the round on the door, which is a great move.

And I think the Turbo script and everything was in that sort of darky gray, or maybe even a gold,

was it?

Possibly, yeah.

It's very different.

A lot of the examples on the used market currently are in that adventuring green,

similar to the press car that we drove.

There's a lot of those.

There's certainly none that looked like that, JCT spec car, if you like,

which is still like delivery miles.

But no, it's not that, because that car isn't on the numbers marketplace.

Of course it's not.

So yeah, I've gone, do you know what, that is a 200K car these days, the brand new Turbo S.

Well, if you went for a 991.1 Turbo S, which is say what, just over 10 years old now,

nobody, and I mean, nobody has ever jumped out of that car and said that is not fast enough.

Believe me, that is a true guided missile.

And it's still of that era where just everything goes on the Turbo S spec wise.

You just basically at that point choose your color and interior trim options.

It really is that comprehensive.

So that's a 560 horsepower rocket ship mated to seven speed PDK.

It's in guards red, or all guards red cars look fast, don't they?

They do.

Let's be honest.

What's interesting, so it's Turbo S.

So it's got the usual recruitment of like PCCBs, heated sports seats.

It's got absolutely everything.

But what's really interesting about this car is it doesn't have the Turbo S centre locks.

It's got five lugs, which as we well know on this podcast means it's road trip friendly.

And I think it looks absolutely sensational.

It reminds me of a press car I drove in 2013 when the Turbo came out that was in that

exact spec and we took it round Paris with the magazine headline Turbo Triumph.

And it's it's that spec.

It's done 45,000 miles.

So not a lot really considering it's like just over 10 years old.

It comes with Harbour Cars tried and tested 12 month in-house warranty by themselves,

not a third party.

And it's up for 72,000 pounds.

So by the time by three exactly that by the time you've specced up a Turbo S,

you could have three of those.

And honestly, you won't get out of that car and say it doesn't lack presence

because it's got a turbo wide spec body and you won't say it isn't fast enough

with 560 horsepower and a 0 to 62 time of just over three seconds.

It's an unbelievable amount of car that 72 K at Harbour Cars.

Take a look on the Nomus marketplace about our gin.

Excellent.

Talking of buying cars, should we talk about our new little what should we call it?

I don't know what we should call it.

It's the buying boots campaign, isn't it?

The buying boots campaign, well said.

Yes.

Very good, very good.

Our friend Craig Justice has come up with a lovely t-shirt design,

which is strapping on your buying boots.

And if you buy a car from the water car from the Nineworks marketplace in the last couple of years,

if your purchase has been guided by that car being advertised on the marketplace

or guided by it being featured in one of our YouTube videos talked about in the podcast,

you feel that it's come your way because of that, then do give us a shout.

You're entitled to a free of charge t-shirt with lovely little graphic on the front,

little man buying boots man running with his bag of cash.

It's such a good drawing.

It's such a great little design for Mr Justice sketch.

And it's a money can't buy t-shirt, which is always really cool.

I believe I'm entitled to one.

You are, just scraping there.

Scraping in there with a paragon purchase.

Exactly as you said, Andy, if any of our editorial insight has just helped push you

in the direction of a great car on the Nineworks marketplace, we just want to say a little thanks

by sending you our free of charge quality t-shirt.

Cementing that idea that the Nineworks marketplace, you feel comfortable buying from there?

It's the sign of quality.

Yeah, which we've had some lovely feedback so far in terms of anecdotal from people buying

cars from the dealers on the marketplace and what that's meant to them.

So it's been really nice to see.

And again, exactly as you said, Andy, just kind of

crystallizes what we're trying to achieve with that marketplace

and how it differs from quite literally anything else out there.

Yeah, allowing people to be confident in their purchase.

Yes. So if somebody thinks, oh, that is definitely, I fall into that category,

I've bought a car, what do they need to do?

Send an email to hello at Nineworks.co.uk saying which car you've bought, where you bought it from,

pop in your t-shirt size and a little quote of why you bought it and how you felt confident

about buying it from somebody on the marketplace.

Yeah, and we'll ratify that with the dealers at their end as well.

Absolutely.

If not, we're going to be banging out of business by Monday.

Yeah, we've been paying for a lot of t-shirts.

Let's get a load of t-shirts all over each other.

We're clothing Britain.

Love it.

Excellent.

Good. Okay, I'll give you an update on the DNHC collective update.

I've kept it local to Leeds.

So I've got three new members that are up around the area.

First off is Oliver Bevis, who is based in Leeds.

I'm not sure if you were there on the weekend.

He hasn't just recently purchased, I believe, a 997.2 C2 in guards red.

Yeah, had it just a month and he's loving it.

Beautiful.

Yeah, I think he was there.

Oh no, he couldn't make it.

He couldn't make it, unfortunately.

I think he had some family thing going on.

But yeah, second up is Steve Thompson, who is based in Warwickshire,

so not too far away.

Not Warwickshire from Leeds.

Well, you know, it's way north of here, isn't it?

It's on the way.

I love it.

It's giving me a bit of bandwidth.

True Costa del South Coast.

Yeah, it is, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah.

Currently driving a Tesla Model Y in brackets, I know.

But he has been swayed recently.

I think he's coming up to 50 and decided that it's about time he bought a Porsche.

Has been looking at 911s, looked at a GTS 4-litre Cayman,

but found all of those a bit of a stretch at the moment.

He's still got kids hanging around,

needing to be paid for for college and stuff like that.

Biff him off, Steve.

Yeah.

Biff him off.

Well, I think that's where his brother-in-law boasts.

He's got a 911, Carrera 4 GTS, so he's always making comments.

Just Steve.

But Steve's decided to go for a Cayman-style edition.

He has seen one of those.

Buying it new and very much looking forward to picking that up.

I wonder if he's picked that up by now, actually.

It'd be interesting to see what he thinks about it.

That's going to be going from a Tesla into a Cayman-style edition.

That is going to be an incredible experience.

That's going to be like being able to see for the first time, I think,

in terms of tactility and how everything, just engagement.

Wow, congratulations, Steve.

That's just to confirm.

That's Steve in Warwickshire and Yorkshire, yeah?

Not in Yorkshire, no.

North, yeah, it's on the way.

Near it-ish.

Same time zone, to be fair.

Okay, I'm going, where was the other one that I was going to do today?

Oh, yeah, this is nowhere near.

I thought I had three lined up up north.

Oliver, Steve.

Right, okay, I really bugged this up.

No, I love it. It's great.

Andrew Aldridge, who joins us from Chapel Row in West Parkshire.

Coley.

Again, on the way.

Yeah, on the way.

If you go in that way, it's definitely on the way.

He's actually very close to the René A Brewery,

and that's how he found out about the DHC.

I think he had a load of cars go past his front window.

Recently bought a car from Raj at MR Sports Cars.

He has a 2013 991.1 Carrera S-Cab that he's very happy with.

Beautiful, beautiful.

And what a superb all-round Porsche sports car

that really is, by the way.

Yeah, that's a do-it-all-everything, isn't it?

Yeah, a big, big welcome to Collective.

And also, just want to go back to Oliver quickly

on this topic of guards red cars.

I mean, yeah, 997.2, as you rightly pointed out

at the top of the podcast, way rarer than the .1.

And also, again, you don't see many of those in guards red.

No.

There's a lot of, like, you know, basalt blacks

and meteor grays, particularly of the C2 of that generation.

So a guards red, that's a lovely, that's an inspired choice.

Really nice.

Good.

Okay, I'll be back next week with, I think, a longer list.

We've had a lot of new members.

Of recent times.

Okay.

In and around the lead area.

I totally muck that up, didn't I?

I love it, mate.

I love it.

Nine Wurts Radio is back.

Yes.

In total mayhem.

Yeah.

Except for, yeah.

With that in mind, I guess see you next week.

See you next week.

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