A deep dive into current events and personal anecdotes, this episode raises questions about whether America is under attack, touching on train derailments, UFOs, and environmental concerns. Host Jay Fitting shares his frustrations about recent train accidents and their implications, while guest Phil, a Porsche enthusiast, adds to the conversation with insights from his automotive experiences. The discussion meanders through topics like car culture, personal car troubles, and even philosophical musings on belief and conspiracy theories, making for a thought-provoking listen.
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Out of Scottsdale. Arizona.
I'm your host Jay fitting recording from my home office in Gilbert Arizona. Coming up on today's show.
I'm a little bothered. I think we're under attack.
You guys know, I'm not the person who's mr.
Conspiracy. There's just a lot of stuff
going on and I just, I need to, I need answers.
They say a thousand trains. Check every year.
And this is normal for the derailments.
Did some research on that. Also guest in studio, mr.
Aficionado, he's going to be hanging out, listening to me, talk shit. I got a flat tire in the
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The number four wheel online. So my wife's looking for a new
car. So she has this issue with her
Audi toward the end of last year.
She was complaining actually his last summer in Italy last summer. This is Jay.
My air-conditioned doesn't work. I'm like shit.
So we do this for like a year. I've done all the work myself
because we were too cheap to spend money on taking it to Audi because out expensive and you go find some like aftermarket shop and they're not necessarily expensive but you feel like you start this cycle all over again. So I said Ed.
Well, maybe you should get a new car.
And so she said, well let's do it during the winter because I don't need the air conditioner. The winter, the heater works
because you get the heater off the, you know, the car which really smells a little bit like antifreeze and whatever else.
But so fast forward to now and she still doesn't have a car and I brought it up and said, hey I re going to get you a car.
We going to spend $1400 two thousand dollars a picture Audi.
You need to figure that shit out.
Like now there's okay. I don't have any time and we
need to find the times. We went out we test-drove and
MDX and already X, which is the smaller Acura SUV.
We drove a Audi Q7 and a q8n didn't even know.
Q8 was a thing, but Q8 is just like a Q7 but it's a little smaller which makes me wonder. Why isn't it called a q6?
Just want to Q5. It's too small.
She doesn't want an SUV. She wanted a car until we went
to go test drive and she decided she wanted SUV.
That's when I said hey you need to tell me what it is.
You want you need to figure it out.
Now if you wanted something big, Enough for Jaylene, and both the kids and mom and all this shit and I'm like, you need to be getting some smaller but Jaylene get a bigger car if she wants more room because she is the mother of the two kids.
So anyway, not quite sure what's going on with that, but I had to meet her at the dealership. And I took the NSX and I take
the NSX because my Infinity has a flat last week.
I noticed the infinity was losing air.
And instead of addressing the situation, I used a gift card from Home Depot and bought one of those portable air pumps battery powered air pumps. And so, I just hear the car up
every day before I run errands which is kind of a little ghetto and week. So the other day I noticed the
chunk of metal in it and I'm still airing it up every day.
I don't want to take it to Discount Tire because I feel like they're going to sell me for new tires as they probably should since I noticed a crack in the sidewalk.
So continuing to monitor that situation also want to say I'm sorry, So last episode, I talked about, I previewed that we were going to have Hayden of Precision Auto Works Precision garage work on the show and I forgot to add it to the show.
We did this whole interview and then I ended up deleting that by the time I realized. So I told you the interview was
coming. I thank him for joining the
show, but I never put that part in the actual episodes over that. I apologize.
I got polyaspartic flooring. So it's like polyuria so it's so
it's almost like you See, it is an epoxy because all I poxy is is part A and Part B of fill in the blank.
That's really what an epoxy is, looks like epoxy.
But this big clear coat first to grind your floor down with these Big O of grinding teeth and they put this clear coat on there.
And then they drop a ton of these little Polly with your plastic little shaving. So, typically, when you get an
epoxy floor, you have your choice of what color do you want it? And then, you can, you have your
option of sprinkles? And they're just randomly thrown
around. This is, they fill the whole
thing up. And then they scrape it off.
There's not a blank spot in the next day that come in and they scrape it again, put another coat of this clear on there and then they covered up with these little.
These little poly chunks polyaspartic is what they call it. They scrape it down, they say it
takes a day. It really takes more like three
to four, to be honest with you, but it's still less curing time that with epoxy but it's great. You guys are looking to it
polyaspartic flooring. I don't feel like spelling it
for you polyuria, don't just look up your recurred.
That's different. That's more biological.
You don't look that shit up. But polyuria It's, you know,
polyurea flooring. So I suggest you guys looking at
that. So apologize for whipping and
whipping on that one. But I think we're under attack.
I don't know if we're under attack or not guys.
During the Super Bowl. All the people hate football
tweet and they say, oh, you guys are celebrating the Super Bowl.
Meanwhile, Ohio has this train wreck and it's on fire and no one's saying anything. It's being under reported first
flag. It's all over Twitter.
I know Twitter is a fucking mess of information, but there's actually real news on Twitter. R2, just have to understand what
you're reading and sift through the bullshit and all the know-it-alls and just because someone is a blue checkmark, doesn't mean actually know anything.
Some of them don't know, shit, just to connect the dots few days later, there's a train derails outside of Houston, the ha. That's interesting.
And then a couple of days ago, A Train derailed outside of Detroit also. So the thing about the Ohio, one
and everybody knows this by now, almost everybody is the Ohio, one EP. Disaster.
You have these giant clouds shits leaking into the river system. You have these people stirring
up the water. You have the oil slick.
Don't know if it's real or not, don't know if that's from last spring. That's one thing about Twitter
is, you're not entirely sure how legit the video is that they're using for propaganda? I don't know.
But what I do know is those three train wrecks.
Raise some flags and you add that with these China balloons, these UFOs, all this other shit that's going around.
And by the way, UFO just stands For under dignified flying object doesn't mean it's an alien doesn't mean it's a flying saucer Society. Media Cinema books, have
programmed us to think that UFO automatically means a little green man or a little grey man from outer space.
But Phil first off, Phyllis it in front of me, giving me this thousand thousand yard stare drinking.
My, my yamazaki, which is he really likes it and I like, yeah, I try to treat my guest. Well, I know you're probably
not. Keeping up on any of this stuff.
But I mean you've heard the news at least a little bit.
Yeah, I know the Train derailed. I heard that, you know, a lot of
the chemicals that they've been using and that was came off the train or the same chemicals they use in chemical warfare.
I've heard that which I mean, I don't know how true that is there. Not because I try to keep an
open mind but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
You can't ignore it, right? You listen to it.
You like huh? That's interesting.
Yeah, is even, you know, even if it's lies or if it's, you know, Miss facts, there's facts behind that.
You know, it's like in your science fiction movie based on reality there's always a little bit of real stuff.
Yeah. In that content because they
have to make it realistic, right?
We're going to sidebar on this because this is what I do on this show. As I say that, I think think
back to war movies of the 80s, cop shows of the 80s, there are all over the top, they're not following the correct procedures. The war movies are just doing
crazy shit, compare them to Modern movies where they have to be real. You know, they bring in the
experts, they bring in the actual military people to train the staff they bring in extra soldiers to actually walk their correct, right? You know even the CGI in the new
movies. They get two stars correct but
the time Today. Exactly.
Yeah. So you can't just half-ass a, so
there's, there's always some fact in some of the fiction that's out there and, you know, I don't, I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I listen someone says something on my heart.
That's interesting. And I consider the source.
A lot of people hate this and this isn't a political pocket.
You guys know who listen to this?
I did not fuck around politics. I don't fuck around and stuff,
but I'm a human being. I'm an American citizen and I
pay attention and we can play The Devil's Advocate for a day.
Yeah. I mean I played I spend my life
playing that's why my wife. I can't stand me.
Nah yeah, yeah that's why my family thinks I'm crazy because you know, I'm always like, oh, yeah.
Well consider this. Yeah.
You know what if this? Well, that's not.
How do you know? Yeah, you know, same with me and
Heather. I feel like the coined term I
always say is so hypothetically. All right, then I'll throw
something out or that lat. Good never, that could never
happen but let's just hypothetically.
If it did, what would you do? You know what would Do but so I
started looking in and we've also had a lot of fires.
Mmm, there's been a chicken. I don't they call him chicken
slaughter houses. Chicken coops.
What do they call the big things with chickens?
Right? Yeah.
The big chicken chicken ranch has.
Yeah, the chicken ranch has catch on fire and you gotta butter bunch of fried chicken. Burnt chicken, you know?
And people are saying slaughter houses on fire and I kind of have an idea who that is, you know, hmm.
Yeah but yeah, you know, I mean even to that again I don't know anything. I shouldn't know.
Buddy at listening to this shit. Trust anything that I say
because I'm just a regular guy with just personal experiences but my grandpa is a Rancher up in Utah.
And his neighbor, you know, when we find out that one chicken has the disease, they have to kill the whole flock.
They looked over security footage and they saw somebody running with a Sly can inject one of the chickens and run back out. And the next day all the
chickens had the disease. So, I mean, you just not
conspiracy, right? Because seriously, as why did
you have it? Yeah, right.
Because it's not that, it's not happening.
It's why is it happening right now?
That's where the conspiracy is because you have the radical groups. So then, you know, and then
people hate Tucker Carlson. I listen to him.
I don't watch him habitually, but, you know, when he puts like a four-minute clip on, on Twitter, I noticed that he was talking about the train derailments and then brought up the fires and brought up in Florida where they tried to poison twice the water treatment facility.
And got your hot like they tried to fucking poison it.
It's on record. Do we know who they are?
No. We don't know who they are.
And that's the problem. The problem.
Because you don't know if it's a political scheme, or a group or a secret individual. There's no way, you know, and
that's that right there is where you have to just kind of we read between the lines is no matter what we read or hear on the news. We're probably not going to know
who not going to know for sure is truly - yeah.
And it's like with these train derailments Chris Tucker was saying that there's this thing that they do to real train.
Is where they run, like you put a wire on one way, I'll put a wire in the other one and they run them across and whatever that does causes the train to derail.
Really. Yeah.
And it happens a lot and in fact, one guy and I'm going to pull up here in a minute, says it happens over a thousand times. And then everyone's like, really
a thousand times, are you fucking with us?
Like seriously. So I did some fact checking on
that, but there's also these fires that are going on and I pulled them up for us. This has been, this has popped
up and sort of Doral Florida Dora Florida around Universe door loader. Oh, I Oh no, yeah, it's a
Florida dri. Ah, EPA visors, Dora res, Doral
rosen's, to shelter in place as renewable energy, plant continue to burn. This has been burning for like a
week toxic. So anytime they tell you a
shelter in place, that means stay in your fucking house and only mmm. There's there's issues now.
I don't know how good the houses are sealed.
Probably not very good, because, rancher in the family, we moved out here, we both live in Arizona.
When I moved out here to Gilbert there was fifteen hundred head of cattle and sheep or cattle and pigs about a mile down, and Twice a day. Hmm, twice.
A day. The house would fucking stink,
no matter how, no matter how but was random.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's God. Hey, what's that smell?
It's like seriously. And so you know what is
shelter-in-place really mean. There's also in Kissimmee
there's a plant nursery it's been a flame really?
Yeah under the plastic containers that plant nursery this is all within the last week they don't know who lit it on fire so you get that bruise investigate.
What caused massive fire kiss me?
A fire unless 13 hours is couple days ago when the 70 firefighters responded. So you have those two big fires,
you have all the train derailments, now you have the balloons floating around there, getting shot down all the sudden so you start doing this Mental Math, it's like okay.
Are we under attack or we under attack from within or just every radical group, you know, I was talking with my friend, Dennis do you watch the new the Marvel shows some of them if you watch Captain Captain Falcon in the Winter Soldier.
Maybe if it's the oldest one I used to watch a lot of them you know in the beginning but there's so many now has no idea what the fuck I'm talking about. So I kind of fell off the
bandwagon like six years ago. Yeah.
So these are ones are come on Disney plus.
Okay. And they're basically they take
the the actual actors from the movies and they have spin-offs and they have like their own like 8 episode, many shows and their most of her pretty, pretty fantastic.
But that's good. There's a radical group in there
called the flags mattress and they're kind of like the antifa people run around. No covered up so I'm like that.
So are these the flag Smashers type group?
You know, like you were saying a second ago like, you don't know.
Yeah. Cuz yeah, I mean that's one of
the things, you know, I feel like when people talk conspiracy theory Theory or the man or like, you know, this one person or one group or you know, and I'll be a, it's never like that.
There's thousands of groups that all have their own agenda.
Some of them are out in the open and some of them are you know, in the deep dark and they just play on each other.
I mean, you think about just in Ex, you know, everybody has certain groups lobbyists, that ride a pole with different political things like what's going on right now.
With electric cars, and they're trying all the companies are realizing electric, cars, are Bad Bet and they're not all that. They're trying to pull
politically with lobbyists to be more hybrid friendly, you know.
So that's one of the things. It doesn't matter whether the
group secret or known is good or bad.
They just all have their own agendas and you No good and bad is very subjective. Just depends on which side of
the fence. You're standing on my crew said
earlier with politics. You're not quite sure what the
game is, right? Yeah.
And you know, you never know whose agenda is being pushed.
Mmm. And we don't, we'll never know.
We'll never know who's going the puppet strings.
No you're right and I'm not going to dedicate too much time like this, this episode is the most time I'm ever going to really dedicate to something like that because they're just so much shit happening in the last 10 days.
You have to, at least pay You know, like what is its, is this just coincidence? Are we under attack?
Because, you know, I forgot who said it some political analysts, maybe I saw it on Fox news or something which again, I don't.
It sounds like this is what I talk about.
I don't usually talk about any of that shit but they had said that they projected that by the end of 2020 for or in 2024 we would go to war with China. So keep that in mind with these
fucking balloons, he's train derailments and shift catching on fire. You know people want to cause
chaos from within And to make it look like his maybe somebody else and like we said there's some there's some truth in everything we see on TV, even the like the high-end police shows, the high-end Espionage shows there's always a little bit of Truth in there you know right.
And you know is this a Tom are you living out of Tom Clancy, movie scenario? You know, it's just like I don't
know. It's crazy.
It's fun to talk about, you know, it's something I could probably ramble on about for an hour and a half ago that's typically not what I do but let's go back to The, I don't know. Asia Senator Pete budding, but a
geek but a geek said that there's over 1,000 train derailments. This Is Not Unusual and of
course you know, I don't know about that.
That sounds really far-fetched. Again, sounds far-fetched,
right? Again.
I don't know anything. I'm just a regular dude with
personal experiences but back when I used to live in Utah, I had friends and people that I knew coins has that they were work on the railroads never once in any conversation I've ever had with them. Did derailment as a common thing
come up. And everyone's question that
including myself, right, Mike? Really, dude, he's
Transportation, secretary, Pete, budding excited that roughly 1,000 trains derail per year just like the one in East Palestine Ohio. I mean and if you think of the
infrastructure that it would take to build a thousand trains per year I mean to replace those every single year I don't know I just seems crazy. But again what do I know?
It's weird that we're still building trains.
I know I know we use trains and since the 1800s, you know, but it's just like yeah the fact that we're Hauling.
And I guess it's the safest way than the interstate.
We're hauling these toxic materials.
Unless let's be honest. Like these toxic materials we
live with them. I was watching some chick on, do
a segment on The Dan limit our show, which is kind of a sport Centric show that I love, but he also Embraces a conversation, he had her on and she said, the people who make what she was saying that Teflon. They knew it decades ago, the
Teflon coating that we use on everything is toxic to the Like it kills everything and uh, what they do is they mix it with the soil or leaks and they just kind of covered up and keep moving and now it's catching up to us. So we sang the physical Teflon
that we all use and C is toxic or the manufacturing and the byproduct of it is to manufacturing.
The byproduct of is toxic so you know, that's believable.
I don't want. You know, the fact of my eggs
don't stick to the pan isn't going to kill me.
All right. In the the Scotchgard that we
spray on our tennis shoes, you know to the waterproof.
Amazing going to kill us. But all that, all that Material
is toxic to the environment and again I'm not a tree hugger but I guess it's now coming through. Fruition all the damage has
happened over the last couple decades.
Oh yeah. And so a lot of Teflon and you
know. Yeah.
And then so knowing that it's just another dude, it's fucking not. So I looked into this whole
thousand thing and I always usually go to like fact check and I type in all these questions and stuff because their job is to tell us the truth and who we hope.
Yeah. And so this is this is is from
and I mean you're able to see it as well.
See the source of this is the Bureau of Transportation statistics. This goes back to 1975 so
derailments in 1975 there were seven thousand nine hundred and are seven thousand five hundred ninety three accidents 6300 those were derailments really see that line so it looking across here we're well over 1,000 every year.
Wow you know that is one of the things So you said this is up looked up on a fact Checker. Yep.
One of the funny things about the internet that I think works decently well, is the documentation of thing.
We're sure door. People take a half a second to
look at it. Yes, people are never going to
do what I do. Right?
Yeah. So, I mean not that you can
trust everything that's online but if this has been documented, in fact checked at least some vittles some validity.
Yeah. And so the question really is
all right so we know that this happens a lot.
So everyone listening this is Probably like, wow, because this goes up to 2021 on this chart. 2021, we had 1087 2020, we had
11 16 and 1313 76122 bifida. But how many of them have
involved this level of toxic materials, blooming into the atmosphere blooming into the soil, killing fish, killing livestock. I don't know if we've had this,
you know, because what constitutes a derailment.
So I'm just going off because in my history Your history and you don't have to pay attention. But if a train crashes and it
bought the flame in the sky, fills a black smoke and people are dying and livestock is dying.
It's on the news. Yeah.
And I don't I don't remember seeing that no, you know, it could just be coincidence. Maybe it's that this is the
first year that we've had that kind of toxic chemicals on a train. And who knows?
It's the flag Smashers. Alright.
Now that we got conspiracy. Phil, got my tinfoil hat on.
Yeah, he actually does have a tinfoil hat on.
Yeah, that's pretty cool. If I like how you took the magic
marker and put the American flag on one side, Brackley to, you know, how it shows the flag blowing, you know, that you have the correct way right to left left to right.
But yeah. So today you were out golfing.
Yeah. I'll tell us about that.
Yeah, sure. Not a happy story, you know.
I'm I picked up golf in 2020 during the pandemic when there was literally nothing open, except golfing, which is interesting. We are we driving range was
stuffed and stuffed. Yeah.
But I mean you can stand six feet apart so naturally it was allowed and I loved it. I got bit by the bug but I'm or
rendus. I'm horrible.
Sunny time, I Gulf of people have to tell him just, you know, be patient. Did you have you ever considered
hiring like a hitting coach swing coach, and his brother called? Yeah.
But, you know, for me, so yeah. I kind of told you, I used to
weld and they had the saying that I just love.
It's, you know, a good philosophy is they call it time behind the torch meaning like it doesn't matter how much training you have, you have to have the physical training of yourself, just going out there and doing it, time behind the torch and that's the time behind the torch.
What makes you a good welder? It's the same thing with golf
with a lot of other sports, you know, and even Motorsports is just, you just gotta spend some time out there and figure out what you're doing because I did see a swing coach and you just can't have the muscle memory to remember, Were the lesson you leave their meant more messed up, than before you went in.
So I feel like you should just go play and just go, you know, swing it a bunch of times before you actually go out and get a lesson. So basically, you've failed
miserably and fired your swing coach and said I'll just figure out. That's what that's what I'm
hearing. Well it was a Groupon swink,
okay, so it was a one-time deal, but no, I probably should go get us, win coach, you know, that's kind of the joke in golf is the golfers spend thousands of dollars on new equipment to make them better and they don't spend any money on coaches because That's the actual thing that would make them better.
So as you say that I'm thinking of, how would this apply to me?
And I'm thinking about, and this still doesn't apply to me, but I'm thinking about basketball, right?
Because when you're playing basketball, they teach you.
This is how your dribble. This is, how you're supposed to
hold the ball this. I supposed to shoot the ball,
your elbows will be out to the side.
Just wants it done it. Uh, but you look at, you know,
Seth Curry and Reggie Miller and Michael Jordan and all these excellent Shooters and they all shoot differently and some just shoot straight up Riri, right, two years.
A term. And that's how they learn to
shoot and they just perfected their craft.
So maybe don't you two work? My mind the toys.
Did it mastered their craft? Yeah, 100%.
So I know you as a Porsche guy. Hmm.
Portia Phil? I think the first time I met
you, I had this big thick mustache.
I had a goofy goatee. It wasn't a goatee or just it
was a goatee, not just a mustache, and a must?
Yeah, I don't know. It was, I think we met in 2020
or right before something like that, you know, whatever.
It was I was we went to help EOS.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah with Meyer After High Line or something.
Yeah. Byron friend of the show.
Yeah, tell us about your Porsche.
Just I got a 997 Turbo. I love it.
I've not always been a Porsche person.
I was a big JDM head, you know, being in high school when, you know, Fast and Furious was coming out and that was, you know, everything that was cool. I was big into Subarus, Evo's,
all that good stuff. But eventually made my way over
to Porsche and I'm glad I did. They're awesome.
So how long have you had your 997?
I think I got in 2020 actually. Also.
No, you know what? No, I was think was right before
that notice. 2019. So, I've had it for almost three
years. Yeah.
Do you. So I know you go to I think even
today we're recording this on Saturday.
The 18th today. Did you go to 4004 that?
We were this morning somewhere first.
I want. So, you know, one of the
wonderful things about Arizona is we have like, five car shows on the same day every day, especially this time of year, especially this time of year. Awesome.
So Daniel coming from Utah, where a huge car fanatic but there's no real car culture, it's just you and some buddies and you're just renting all the time.
So coming down here we really spoiled.
So this morning I went to the Vault.
There was all that right there, it was awesome.
And then after that shot over the McLaren, they had a big get-together at McLaren and then after that, went down to 3:56 and saw the JDM Euro show and awesome.
I mean, where else can you do three car shows in a day?
So, someone could probably argue, maybe somewhere in LA, but I'm the ones in La. I think they're far so far from
each other farther apart and worst traffic.
Yeah, so exactly. Yeah.
There's all yours were kind of in the same.
Yeah, islands Council area. Yep.
Yeah, I've been to all those. Yeah.
And you're kind of working your way down actually it.
Because north-south. Yeah.
The vault is further north and then you're like a mile if that away from McLaren. Yeah.
Just right around the corner. Yep.
And then you travel further south in Or at 3:56 in Old Town and then you're back on the highway.
Yeah, and wherever you're going for your day.
I did the street side Classics, they held a car show today because assignment shop. Nice?
See. I would have made it down there
that would have been for my order for her.
There was a five others other places.
Where are ya? Yeah but they kind of they
sponsor a one last event you know Food Bank event.
We did we did last year and so I wanted to reciprocate and show the love. Plus, I'm hoping they sponsor
this event. We have coming up in April
That's what's so in April, it's called the Arizona Natural Restorations benefit to be a good year.
Ballpark to leave, actually have it inside the ballpark, so it's going to be on the Terrace nice. But we're going to have vendors
premium car. Parking for people who register
for that all goes to charity, stay 48, making the shirts for us. That's really cool.
Yeah, and then the regular cars in the back, which, you know, I use the term loosely. I mean, you're going to be
inside the bucket Stadium, you know?
Yeah, we have use of the scoreboard, look at what the sponsors up on the scoreboard and all that kind of Stuff.
We have announcements bounce house for the kids food vendors.
Yeah, you know, it's something that what you put together for Barrett. That was awesome.
I wasn't part of that. I mean, I was, I was just the
guest MC but I had nothing to do with the actual well, you know, they did a good job though, you know, they did and even, even the stage, I was impressed. When they pulled all the cars on
this stage and Stage didn't collapse.
I was like, okay, somebody thought this through, I never thought about that but you're right.
Yeah, you're 100% right on that. Yeah, those cars.
Don't mean the stage was I mean, what do you think?
Four feet in the air and those girls throw said all steps.
Yeah. And the other thing I was
impressed about because a lot of people who put on shows or do things aren't necessarily big car, people themselves or the people that they hire to help them, do the show aren't right?
And the one, the other thing is the ramp to get on the stage was fairly long enough because a lot of those cars are really low.
Somebody thought through to be like, okay, this ramp shouldn't be straight up and down, you know because nobody would have made it up done. There was two cars that didn't
go up on and I'm guessing they were just too low.
Oh there was kind of a Our 35, it was a time attack and drift.
Combo are super dope, cargos. All these events wasn't that
time? It's a car.
That was the GTR, right? It's a GT area and that's right,
that was cool. Yeah.
And then, there was another one that didn't get up on stage, but you're right for the most part, but I never even thought about that. But if anyone's going to build a
stage for a car, it would be bare Jackson, right?
Yeah, that's true, right? Yeah, because they do the whole
stage thing. But do you ever go to any like
or stuff? Like look, I don't even.
Honestly, it looked. Yeah.
I'm actually wearing one of their shirts Olaf.
Yeah, looped occult lift. Yeah, Larry st.
Louis Vuitton. I'm horrible at this.
You know, but it's like, yeah. Luka cult or something like
that. I don't know.
That'll go. Well, Mary, why butcher it or
show it so was it what was it last year?
Did you go? Yeah, I did.
So me and Heather and some of my friends drove out and we went to it it was over in l.a. like in the LA area in the bay it was it
was awesome is really cool and they actually have another one coming out. End of April which that's only
like six months apart on the roof.
Yeah. Another lie.
As it always in the eyes are always in California.
No, no, it's been in multiple locations but admittedly, you know, I've only had my Porsche for the last three years and right this is I think the first one I've had since 2020.
So there's definitely some stuff that I'm just getting into and lift is one of them. I've had some buddies that have
gone to all of them and there have been all over the United States and all different locations.
My friend Brian was telling me that they Really cool one at Universal Studios Universal Studios.
Or maybe it was something like that.
Where was this set? And that one turns going good.
Yeah, I know, in 2018, they were actually Monterey.
Oh nice. Oh, there were still kind of in
the California thing. So you're you said, you're from
Utah. Yep.
Talk to me about the Utah senior.
So there really isn't one. It's mostly buddies in their
cars which yeah, leaves a lot to be, get me because sometimes that's what you want it is. I mean honestly as being you
know a young kid up there, it was awesome.
Yeah. We We had, you know, want some
of the cars I've had at that time.
We're at a first gen Mitsubishi GSX.
You know? The old DSM cars.
Mmm. That was fun.
I had a real GSM Talan. Yeah.
Yeah, that was. So what year is that Talent?
Like I think it's 9595. I think my you know and again
this is yours long time ago, I hold on.
There were people used to it modifying their like this thing.
Just ran 13-3. Yeah, oh, you're like holy shit.
The thing, crazy thing. Nothing.
Raced with okay. Maro, you know.
But yeah, just think about how blown away to work as a car either team. Yeah, you know, the funny thing
about all of the eclipse like people, you know, a lot of people who don't know this Eclipse obviously was JDM car, but they only exist in the United States.
This was the oh, really only time the, we got the cool car, it was a Mitsubishi car manufactured here in the states.
It's weird. Because there's there's cars
like that. Like the like, You can't buy a
beetle in Germany, really? Yeah, looks like an beetle is
Nyle. I didn't like them.
The late model Beetle that we've had for like the last 15 years we are. Yeah.
That's like a us only Carly. Okay.
That's news to me the shit like that and then Europe gets four words that we don't get. They do.
Yeah. And some of them are full.
Yeah, you know. I got the fuck.
Yeah, I agree. I want that like yeah we can't
get that like twice the horsepower is ours.
Yeah I stuffed the fuel economy. Yeah, a lot of times they get to
better cars. It's all due to EPA you know.
So we have talked to me about that because it's like, it's the Fast and Furious thing. Yeah, we have the eight cars in
front of someone's house. It was like that in Michigan.
It was here. Yeah, we had maybe it's so many
photos like I've had I've had a couple of WRX has an STI and you know those DSM cars and I even had an SRT for the first gen I loved it but so there will be you know us we had any yes oh yeah. Is my wife had a green Dodge
Neon. He has died.
I put the drop in HID bulbs in there.
Although I knew I shouldn't do it because reflectors were made for that and yeah it was it was shit that but I did with that's what we all did. I used to ride sports bikes and
all of us. All of us sport bike riders, we
would swap them out with those. Those, you know, eBay, you know,
LED bulbs, that the reflectors don't work correctly.
So you're blinding everyone on the road, everybody.
But to you, it's awesome. So you can see everything, just
fine. No one else can see shit.
Yeah, you don't you talk? Oh sorry.
Yeah, no yeah you tell was awesome.
Yeah, whereabouts, Ogden. Yeah, dogs are like yeah, I had
some friends, you know, Jeff and Eric and like a bunch of other guys that I just that I grew up with what the high school and just huge into cars, man. Loved it.
And we all had multiples of things, you know how it is when you're in your teens and twenties.
You just kind of go through cars, know, and we would blow cars up. I'm just one time, I had a Trans
Am and we decided to put nitrous on it and none of us knew how to do that. So we just kind of drilled into
your throttle body. This was in 2005.
So how old are you 34? Okay, all right, I'm a little
older than you but you're hitting like all the keywords in there so that's why I'm like what the hell does motherfucker you like 42 dude? No, I mean shit.
I feel like it sometimes bad back but Knocking.
I don't know. Like it's known for something.
Yeah, what's what's? It's funny?
How I go to the mall and the first thing I see is a cost Rockhouse. Ogden was, is the armpit of Utah
and back in the, you know, boom of Utah.
And the railroads, you have me a brothel.
So it's mostly Salt Lake just north of salt.
Like so it is where the trains would stop to get supplies.
And there was down 25th Street, a bunch of brothels, which still brothels now are really popular bars and restaurants.
And all kind of stuff like that but really cool place to grow up and live and I loved it and have some really good friends back there. And the car scene was really
cool cars and bikes, you know, but it was all very like Fast and Furious. We're just every kind of
renegade and just, you know, making stuff up as they go because back then, you know, we didn't have all this internet stuff, we're a thousand, other people have done things that you did, you know, for instance, that, you know, we're putting on intercoolers and blow-off valves, and you don't remember the original. The Boost controllers that were
manual. HKS boost controller.
You just twist it to turn up the Boost.
You know. So like style.
Yeah, a little dials. Like I've got these, you know,
in 2002 WRX, and I'm just, like, cranking it up being like, I'm an extra boost. This is great.
No to know nothing, you know. So I'm surprised I didn't blow
up more cars and I definitely had some buddies that did occur.
You did. Yeah, same thing from a turbo.
Yeah, I had a gritty turbo on a GSR.
Oh, had a vacuum leak problem but When we figured out the vacuum leak was. I mean, it was and I was, I had
this thing. I drove it down from Michigan
and Texas where I grew up installed.
It one summer bass is all get out, right?
At least. It felt like me that summer
driving back to Michigan racing. Everybody on the highway.
Yeah, it racing. And yeah, everybody fast because
you're running really lean because you're not tuned.
Yeah, I had no idea. So, by the time I get to the car
smoking. All right, so by the time, I get
to my friends house, Yeah, your rings.
Yeah, he opened up. I had no oil in the car.
Oh, man. Yeah, probably bring a rings in
the oil pulled up through the cylinders and burned out.
That was the beginning of the end right there?
Yeah. Yeah.
I know those days. I had the Apec.
See the Apex. The, I had the taxi dunk for
inch exhaust? Yeah, and had the Indigo gauges.
Yep. Yeah.
Later and I loved it yet. You know, I was joking with my
friend brand either day because we were like, you know, I kind of hope somebody brings underglow back because we all had the other glove back then it was great there out than just people do undergo now. So what I was when I was in
because I'm a little older, you know, when I was coming up we just call him Neons, right? And they were cool for a minute
and they weren't cool at all, you know?
And now there's this is a back dude.
I didn't know they were back but the sad thing is they were cool up until the technology it was I don't know.
What do you think? 2006 that it kind of became
uncool right but they were cool. It was about the same time to
become uncle is when they had the One where you could tune it to match the Beat of the Music and we change the colors.
Oh yeah. That came out.
And you know, I had a friend that she put it on her car and it was awesome and then it was like all of a sudden it wasn't cool anymore. You know.
It was sad that stuff. I liked it.
I know half a dozen people with undergo on their cars right now, really LED strips. You kidding.
It's just like, you can change the color and shit and it does that to it's like I would never do it.
Yeah. And then, you know, I thought I
was cool at first, but yeah, one of the silliest mod if you even call it a mod that I ever did was The time I had a a 2002 I think it was 2002 Prelude, sh the shush and I like did the so popular car. Yeah.
And I you know, Byron. He has one and he does.
Yeah, I wanted one of those cars I could afford it.
So that's how that's honestly how I ended up in Integra.
Yeah, I couldn't afford the trailer, you know?
But the Integra we all know is the cooler car.
It's 100% looking back looking back, but, you know, hey, the Prelude was awesome. No.
And so I went down to AutoZone and I got the, you know, they came out those little Like blue neon strips and I put them up inside the car underneath the dash London is like my favorite mod. I think I've ever done.
Mmm but that's the way it is, dude.
Yeah. What do you do?
I don't I don't think what those good old days again.
What do you miss about car life and you're taught and then what brought you here? Yeah.
Well I think what I miss is just the fact that I mean, you know, simpler times when you're, you know, you're in your teens and twenties and basically, you just always go Over your buddy's house, you know, my friends Jeff and Eric we would always go to their house and they both had evos and we would just work on them all the time. Do stuff and half the time, I'm
just sitting there watching but it's cool to be part of it, you know? And they would come over.
I had that Talent 2nd gen talent and I did a bunch of slow boy racing stuff to it. And like, you know, I can
remember everything, but they came over with the, you know, the help me put the manifold on. We put the turbo on.
We did all this stuff and it's just, you know, all the fuck ups that you have. And you know the mistakes you
make is kind of half the fun because you can laugh about it.
Now sure, we take that out after putting everything together and I'm just all of a sudden smokes you know after doing some poles down the street which again, it's not tuned.
But I've got all the new stuff on there and I'm just billowing smoke and it's because the inlet for the oil line, I didn't have it tight enough on the turbo. So it's just fueling out from
above the turbo and just getting onto the compressor side, right?
Cooking. Yeah.
I was a hauling ass of my Turbo Racing, my buddy's like tune type, our Civic. I mean, Integra Type R and also
in is like pop in the whole cabin just below full of black.
We pulled over at the gas station, pop the hood and the dipstick popped out. What?
Yeah. Oh just too much pressure.
It was the beginning of the end and now yeah, that's a lot of times it's because you ran too much boost and it pushes the pressure through this, the Rings in down into where the oil is and it just pops those dipsticks out.
Yeah, it's a tie. Time is like my district pop
that one was like what? Yeah, I mean is there some stuck
in your lines? But that makes sense right
there. I never knew.
I mean, I knew something was fucked up.
I'm again back then I mean we're all just figuring stuff out.
We don't know, I didn't now like you can instantly find it on the internet, you know, because people have made the same mistake as fix. Yeah, or oh yeah.
Yeah. What's that guy with the glasses
with over a billion downloads? Everybody watches his shit to
you. Kind of Screams.
I don't know. I'm horrible at Don't watch a
lot of new stuff. No, he's on YouTube.
Like everyone. Watch.
Everyone are guarantee. You probably watched him this
motherfuckers videos is old man got?
Oh yeah. Yeah, I know you're talking
about. You know, I'm talking about
though. Crazy guy with the glasses.
Yep. Yeah, I'm gonna teach you guys.
Why you shouldn't put this? Yeah.
And your car. Yep.
You know. It's like like yeah, he's a
hoot. But yeah, those were the days,
man. And so what we'll.
So what brought you to Arizona? Oh yeah, you know, so I finished
college and worked for a few years up in Ogden and your knowledge for accounting. Okay.
Yeah, boring stuff. But I had worked at the IRS
because, you know, up in Ogden and just Utah in general, you know, everybody to says, Utah has a great economy.
Utah does not have a great economy.
It has a stable economy and it's stable kind of towards the bottom, you know, so because everybody has kind of government jobs or they work for or big factories.
And so, you know, when you're young and you're trying to find a job, it's kind of difficult if you don't have some ins places or know some people, and I was trying to decide between moving to Seattle, because I spent time up, there is a kid and loved it.
And moving down here to Phoenix because my family moved down here, you know, a few years earlier.
So ultimately, I just kind of, you know, left my job packed up and moved down here and that was But a decade ago, little over a decade ago and I'm happy I did it.
Phoenix is really cool place, you know, I'm really fortunate that I got to live here through especially 10 years ago when it was not as big as it is now and the growth that it's had and just a Melting Pot of people, you know, again, loved Utah, love, you know, growing up there have some really good friends there. But yeah, you know, it was fun
to move down here and kind of, you know, learn new aspects of life outside of Utah. So what do you do here?
Work in finance. I have you.
So I aspiring to give me your information.
This is reality. Yeah.
Yeah, real estate Finance. Okay, so I was more.
I will leave it at that. It's boring inquiring minds.
Want to know what's the what I mean?
What are you do? You work in finance.
That's like a, it could be anything.
It's like I tell people, I do Healthcare it.
Yeah. But it's a little more
complicated than that. So what do you do with Finance?
Oh, nothing. I just, I just work in finance
with real estate. I feel like this guy is like,
what? Are you?
Top secret security clearance to be the joke when I worked at the IRS was. Whoa, here we go.
When do you want to go over my taxes now, you know, as it's a big joke, you know, like I said, a lot of people in Utah, they work for a big company corporations or they work for government stuff. And a lot of people work there
are s, so I worked there for seven years in Utah.
That's why I got a degree in accounting.
I wanted to be a mechanical engineer but Couldn't afford College, the IRS said they'd pay for an accounting degree.
So I did that. So you're obviously not Mormon
cause you're here, drinking liquor, I grew up LDS.
Yeah. What happened?
Nothing. Nothing I guess I just you know
I heard the phrase that church or like religion is not four walls. I think is how the phrase went,
you know, and I just kind of took it to heart and I like the research religions and pretty spiritual person.
But I don't necessarily say that I'm You know, unique to any one religion. Sure.
I'm also very open to the idea that you know, maybe we're all here because there could have been a god places here or maybe it is 100% of meteor struck Earth and we're all spawns of, you know, meteorite offspring. You know, I mean, I'm kind of
there to, you know, I grew up Lutheran.
Mmm. You know, I've been baptized
like three times believe it or not just super weird, but I do believe there's something. Yeah.
And I do believe whatever that is, is in all of us.
And I also believe that maybe we came from a spec if I can maybe, I maybe, I won't. Maybe my ancestors are crap out
of a earthworms ass. Like I don't, I don't know.
But I'm here now. Yeah, because, you know, that,
that's the problem. Um, with how old everything is.
We can't go back far enough to find out and the more we learn in advance. Yeah.
You know, the more we have to question things.
Yeah, you know, that I've talked to my boy, you know, Wes.
I bring his name up once every few times, but it's like, you know, getting biblical here. What happened?
Moses split the Red Sea, but what does that really mean?
Right? No.
And that is the problem because, you know, doesn't matter if it's today or in the past history is written by men and men are flawed, you know. Yeah.
You know maybe if you see something for the first time, you know how to explain it, right?
Exactly. You know and you know, we know
everything's been interpreted and you know, changed in languages and you know reiterated.
So you know, I just Serve myself to be open-minded, you know, and not poopoo on anybody else's belief.
You know. I heard this really sure.
I don't know. I'm saying with you on that.
Yeah, yeah but it basically like don't iook somebody's yum.
If somebody likes it and work for them, great works for them.
Yeah. You know what?
So this is in this is going to bring us full circle to this before we wrap this up. UFOs.
Okay. Okay, so the government's can
release all this information. What if the information that
they've in the maybe they did this in 2020?
I remember because it was there's this whole thing with people going to storm Area, 51. Yeah, I remember, there were
supposed to Naruto Runner and near it around.
Yeah, exactly. Fun each.
I love anime. So I laughed really hard to
watch that series. But so that it was let's say
tomorrow, they release these documents and it's like here's President Nixon taken. A prehistoric selfie with this
guy from fucking planet Zeno, right?
Yeah, what. And I was talking to my friend,
Dennis about this. What would that do to religion?
Probably nothing? Because, you know, that's what
like, I mean, when people debate religion, There there's almost nothing that you can say that proves or disproves it it's changed its just Faith. You know?
That's that's what it is. And that's what you know.
So many religions are starch Lee different but the same time, they're all very similar. There's a lot of extremism.
Sure. Certainly you know but a lot of
them anything. Yeah a lot of that is written
into the details but overall things are very similar, you know. And I don't think it would
change it at all because like, you know let's talk.
Let's talk Evolution and Big Bang.
Same rights the same conversation, same thing, you know, like it's proven. We had a big bang, they can look
out in space and see the radioactive decay, which scientifically proves a big bang.
Okay, well, what caused the bang was it, you know, God's creation of everything or was it a, you know, in terms are louder?
Terry, you know, more time for shift that Crush, you know, created it. It's, you know, who knows?
And that's when those things were Can kind of like guess and document but I mean, who knows. You know, my my granddaughter
name is Nova. Cool, Supernova.
That's exactly what I call her. Yes.
Yeah. So her name is Nova Ray.
That's correct. Color.
Supernova all the time. Yeah.
I'm like, oh, what's up? Will Supernova?
You know, she's like two months old right now, you know, but I'm all I'm into all that shit, man. Like most people have no idea.
Do You Think We're Alone? No, absolutely not.
But per your previous statement, you know, do I think there could be a photo of Nixon with an alien?
No, not at all. I don't think maybe the
government knows about aliens and hasn't shared that necessarily per se. But I don't think that we've I
had kind of the interaction or intermingling of aliens or everybody in dead human got here if they're here at all.
Yeah, because I mean it comes down like simply, you know, we're not out there looking for other planets and we probably never will unless we need sun or lifetime not in our life.
But you're right. It must we need some.
Let me eat something. And if we're out there searching
for something and we find it, chances are, we're going to take it. Yeah.
So If aliens same kind of thing, you know I mean interesting you know it's interesting. They probably have the same
Viewpoint that we do. Survival brothers are all first
yeah, it's survival first. So if they're out there
searching is probably something for survival and if they found it here on Earth, they're going to take it.
So I just don't think I did a most interesting. yeah, cuz I
mean if you kind of think about it, too, You know, we eat things, we consume things. And that's the one thing that
all life has in common is the consumption of stuff and it doesn't matter what kind of a planet you live on there could be you know Planet see Lavon that are there's no Oxygen at all but at the same time those creatures still consume things to live. So if there's aliens that are
Advanced enough to number one, leave their planet, to go find something that they need to consume.
They're going to be Advanced enough to take it from people and planets that are Jerry, you know, in theory that can't well so and if they're here to take something I mean We would probably know about it already. But I can only be walking Among
Us true. I mean, you never know.
It could be like Men In Black, you know, just all we're in human skins. So I'm more science fiction
base. And so I'm just like man.
How cool would that be nice to say if I could just leave this planet just to find out that Star Wars is real.
Yeah. And never come back home I would
totally do it right. But you know it's just it's his
fantasy. So mr.
Aficionado people want to follow you on Instagram.
Graham. Why would they not after this
compelling conversation? It's mr.
Aficionado what does that name come from?
By the way I couldn't think of anything good.
I saw him free Instagram because I liked cars and wanted to post about cars and see people's car stuff, you know.
And so I just kind of made it up.
But looking back on it, I probably would have picked a different name. It's a cool thing.
A lot of people but make people curious right?
Like oh what does that mean? Are you smoke cigars?
I think you are a fedora or something.
When I met you too, you know, I'm like wow, this guy's this guy's cool, it's a front. Now maybe he's an alien.
Could be found just unzip the skin. next time we talk about,
something outrageous I had something a second ago and I can't remember but is it was something funny as hell too, but Whatever, Phil, thank you for coming on the show.
It's your has been a long time. You're welcome back whenever you
want. I don't know if you ever will,
but I do have plenty of alcohol that I haven't given you a keep serving this. I'll come back now.
Yeah, fair enough. You know you know shout out to
the the Misaki. Yeah, you know sake and we'll do
this again. That's good.
What I think Phil 14 coming through.
We had a lot of fun, that was good.
That was recorded on Saturday night.
It is now Sunday the day before this podcast comes out, introduce him to some Japanese whiskeys.
He hasn't really it was it's funny when people come over and I'm offering them the drink and it's kind of overwhelming.
Like I don't have an exact I told him.
I don't have I have a lot more than your average person, but I don't have nearly as much as like, your typical enthusiast.
But the fact that I have a lot more than your average person can be a little intimidating, especially when I have that wide range of different things. So thought he was going to take
some of the Roku gin. He liked its, first time, he had
it, he's a gen guy, gin and tonic, but I put him on some Japanese whiskey and he loved the Yama.
So that's what we had. But it's always fun to have
those conversations with people not necessarily about the whiskey, but about anything and we're car.
Guys, we met each other through cars through a car event.
But when you get car guys together, they usually don't talk about cars. I talk about little bit and we
talked about his car a little bit.
But as you can see, just ask him about his car.
He didn't really have much to say about his car.
Some people want to tell you everything about their car and those are the type of conversations where I'm kind of like the spin it up a little bit because you're starting to lose me. I know you're going to lose a
listeners so that surface-level conversation is perfect.
And then are we under attack? I mean, under attack.
Switching gears here. I did a thing today.
I went to Firestone and they patch my tire.
So the infinity is now fixed. They didn't try to upsell me on
anything $25. Good to go.
No longer have to run errands in the NSX or my wife's Audi.
Congratulations to Mac McClung for winning the slam dunk contest. He did three, perfect 50s in a
row. I didn't watch it.
I watch the highlights on Twitter late, last night, he's only 6 to 0. And by the way, he's White guy.
So then bunch of the all white men can jump, kind of worn out.
I've known white dudes, my whole life that could jump out of the gym. We used to watch in high school,
a guy named Randy duck, who played for Arlen high school.
I went to North Island. He was a couple years older.
Randy duck was really good. He went to Cal played behind
Jason. Kidd you can look him up.
Randy duck University of Kal-El. He was really good, I think is
he was six foot tall? And I think he actually won a
slam dunk contest. In college, bit of sad news.
Sad news to me said, this should be sad to pretty much anyone but especially if you grew up in the 80s and 90s but we all know Bruce Willis has been kind of, you know, he's had some health issues, but it's come out that he has been diagnosed with frontotemporal dementia. So like all dementia, it's a
terrible thing. Billa takes the brain takes away
motor functions, Aaron who was on here, a couple episodes ago.
His mother died from this and this type of tax people in their 30s and 40s usually 50s into the you don't have to be 75 80 year.
Old person with dementia Bruce Willis is one of those.
He's a generational actor, in a sense that We all know from die hard, you know, we all know from Armageddon.
I loved him in The Expendables movies, like he's been in so many movies. That's the, but that's the joke
he'll take any role. And I think he's a good actor.
Some of the movies, he takes our kind of crappy, you know, the sixth sense. Now, that's Bruce, freaking
Willis. What's up, what's the Army?
When he did Tears of the Sun tears from the Sun?
Think Tears of the Sun? That's a really good movie
University. That's a good army movie.
So it's sad, I mean, so now at this point, it's just the slow debilitation of Bruce Willis and we don't get forever and it's a sad thing. Quick correction from earlier
told Phil that you couldn't buy Volkswagen Beetle in Germany.
I think you could, but they weren't made in Germany.
They were made in Mexico and maybe that's where I had.
The confusion was never in the market for him, but the last time they made a Volkswagen Beetle in Germany was back when the first gen Beatles, select the 60s and think through the 70s. So I'm pretty sure you can buy
them in Germany, but they didn't make them in Germany.
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