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Welcome to Car Talk. It's Tuesday night.

Here it's me, Maddie Jay, in the same room as Mr Tarun Cabral and online with Mr Edward Bunting, Mr. David Prince, Mr Scotty

Johnson and Mr Rob said Hi. How are you, gentlemen?

Good. Very good, Matthew.

Very good. Pretty.

Good. Thank you.

Good to see you all your lovely faces as it is every week to see, to see you guys, let's crack on with some car updates first and foremost week so we can get that out before we get to our topic of the evening. So we haven't seen Mr Bundy in a

while. Mr Bunting, you've been you've

been up in about, but you've been a very busy man.

That's true, yeah. I just, there seemed to be a

just Tuesday night, there was something on last week and something on the week before and the week before that.

Anyway, so I've been feeling guilty.

I'm back and I'll try and regale you with updates.

That, I don't know. Mildly interesting, maybe.

Where did we get to what do? What do you recall last time?

What was I doing? You had the Swift and you're

about to sell it, I think, and that's what we got to.

OK, so I did have the little 12,000 kilometre swift in stock that has now gone to a new home. Guy purchased it or helped his

mother purchase it. She's just going to run around

visiting grandkids. So it'll still be a very low

mileage car. You know, she doesn't want it

anymore. And then it might go to one of

the one of the grandkids. They were all sort of at the age

of, you know, 1617, so you're getting their licences and stuff so. I'd say that will remain in

their family for a time because it's a.

Man's Swift. When getting Nana's Swift, it's

it's a great little machine, the Honda Jazz that I procured off a friend of ours that got onsold to a girl as her first car.

So that also went to a new home, the BMW 316TI compact that I bought. Did I mention that car?

Yeah, I think yeah, yeah, OK, I was driving around in that because, well, I put a full tank of petrol in it and then I sort of feel obliged to use the petrol that I put in it.

So I did put that. And for a initial roadie glance

and the guy down the road gave me a a list that wasn't horrendous, but it was. Things like caster bushes are

very common on those BMW in the front end, steering rack ends, drive shaft, coupling rear muffler and rocker cover gasket.

I think that was what he picked. Too bad actually.

Doesn't look. It's not too bad.

Through him, he says are two 2 1/2 grand.

You know, can be a bit dramatic with costs.

So I sort of thought, well, it's not that crazy, that stuff I'll on on the back of the head there's apparently some sort of coolant. Like, UM attachment, what do you

call it, join thing on the back of the head that's plastic.

That's a bit hard to get to, but that was weeping.

So you sort of replaced that. So I thought, I'll just get a

second opinion on that car before I give up on it because it's a really tidy little machine and it's got the Ridge plate, you know, BMW 316. That's cool.

Which is cool. I mean, you can't get a better

Reg plate than that for that car.

So and it's got the corn blue interior.

I don't know if I showed you a photo of it I'll I'll pop one just on screen while we're here. But it's unusual in that it's a

light grey interior with this really vibrant corn blue it's called with a K being German seat.

So you can see there on screen. So the the dash in the doors and

the carpets are all the light grey and the seats are this sort of electric blue cloth and the door inserts are electric blue cloth. A lot of those compacts were

black inside, and they just looked really drab and scabby.

But this thing, because it's purple, metallic, sort of on the outside. I said it's a bluey purple.

It's not like full on purple, but you know, you walk up to and you go, oh that's a cool colour. Then you open the door and you

go, ohhhhh, that's kind of refreshing as an interior.

It's got a sunroof and everything, so it's a likeable combo anyway. So they also did a red in the

interior though. You know Deep Burgundy.

Yeah, yeah, I'm, I might had a had a red leather interior in his yeah. You could get red leather, you

could remember that. Yeah.

So I put it in for a second opinion to another mechanic I deal with and just sort of say, look, if you were to do this stuff that the other first guys picked what kind of dollars?

And he was far more reasonable with the dollars.

So I said, OK, well, let's, let's tip some money into the little compact and try and keep it on the road with the roadworthy and then I can sort of sell it complete.

I did find a muffler down at our favourite centre Rd Wreckers and I employed my friend Alexander who comes on this podcast sometimes to go and get it because I said what are you doing this weekend? I'm away.

But you know I need you to go and get this muffler wins, wins, wins. Anyway, of course he went down

and couldn't resist. So I I now have to deliver the

muffler to to the mechanic to to fit it.

The interesting thing with those is I thought it might be the same as any E36 BMW rear muffler.

Not so because the compact used the E30 rear end.

Yeah, yeah. So it was a more an old school

rear end. Which meant that the muffler and

exhaust design was unique to the compact.

Which, of course, makes things fun when you're trying to find a muffler for one. Anyway, 50 bucks later I have a

muffler that seems some surface rust on it but it's not raptly.

It's not doing anything nasty. So so that's that swift Soul

Jazz sold. What else have we been doing?

I bought a 2005 Subaru Impreza GX sedan auto 115,000 K One lady owner, now deceased from Interstate, drove that back from Interstate over the weekend. That's white with a really good

service history timing belt done.

So that's drives really well. Those remember they were presser

I had recently that. That 95, this and this is 10

years newer, but they both drove well and this is 2 litres, so a bit more punch and just just a more modern car, you know, with their bags and a BS and you know cruise and all that stuff.

So yeah, that's a great car and I think with a with a roadie and some region, a few little cosmetic bumper bar tweaks, that'll be a a really tidy example.

And then the other one, I'm picking it up on Wednesday night, thanks to Mr. David Prince.

A little little tip off, a little lead.

Is an 06 Yaris hatch 4 door auto done 141.

Very good history with one family owner but cosmetically a little bit tired so faded roof and the front bumpers a little bit not right. So I'll I'll tip some money into

that because the rest of it's a good car.

I've just got to make it look look as good as it's interior and it's servicing is it's just the cosmetics that let it down which yeah it's not too bad it's not a whole car respray.

So I can I can deal with that. So, you know, you might say

boring cars, but sort of good cars that are easy to sell.

The Mini Moke has a current. Roadworthy.

Woo. Wow.

That's no easy task getting a late 70s moke roadworthy.

But I have to sing the praises of one of the guys in the motor club who sort of tinkers in his spare time.

He's not a not an official mechanic, he has a normal job, but. Another job, I should say.

Mechanics are a normal job, but yeah, yeah.

Yeah. He.

Yeah, he delved into it, sort of of his own volition and I think he sort of liked the car. And when he chatted to me,

realised I wasn't a knob head and so sort of was like, alright, I'll yeah, you know, Ed seems reasonable cars, really original. I think he sort of liked that

project. The last one he did, he said, oh

this guy brought me a moke and it was so butchered.

I sort of had to redo everything, you know, and undo work that had been done. And I think it did his heading

and it was there for six months, whereas mine was there for a matter of. Weeks.

And he sorted it out. You know, suspension, brakes,

lights, you know all of that. So it drives so much better.

Anyway, that's I'm seeing the Club Ridge people this week to give them the photos that I've taken and the roadworthy and all the forms and blah blah blah blah.

So excellent. So we'll do that through the

club because I've maxed out the number of Hondas or sorry, not a number of numbers I can have in the Honda Club.

They actually change the rules because of me.

But the rule is I think you can have one non Honda for every Honda that you've got on Club Regio, correct?

Because I sort of my ratio is more like 5 non Hondas to 1.

They they put in a little. We appreciate the loyalty you

were showing. I'm very loyal to the Hong Kong,

I think. But I put in a little barrier to

sort of stop other being overzealous.

What other cars can I tell you about OHK David and I you might have talked about? I have not talked about that

because I was waiting for the for the bunting to arrive.

OK. What would you like to talk

about? That are you OK, you can talk

about that? Well, David received a little

tip off about a few Honda scamps, and when I say a few, I mean 3. Literally.

Literally 3 scamps that had been resting untouched since the early 1980s in a garage, which is quite rare.

When you think, you sort of think there's no more of these things. That thing, you know, you think,

oh, they're all known about. They're all in clubs, they're

all but every now and again, just something comes out of the woodwork and you go, wow, how is that?

How is it possible that since the early 80s, three scams have been shut up in a garage and not touched?

It's sort of baffling, you'd think.

Wouldn't someone sell them or want them out of there or do something with them of it? Anyway, that's sometimes what

happens. So we went to have a look at

these things and. Essentially one of them is just

a party. There was a red and white and

yellow. The yellow one is very much a

parts car. It's got some real crunchy rust,

but it's complete. You know, there's a motor or

relatively complete, there's a motor there that can be taken out and window glass and you know, trim parts and door cards and a couple of tail light lenses and bumpers were good and you know, things like that. So there's a lot that can be

savaged off the yellow car. The other two cars were more

interesting. There's a red one and the white

one. Red ones a little 360 manual,

white one is a 360 auto. Both very complete and original.

Cars, the white ones. Probably a little more original

than the red one. So both likeable and not crunchy

rust, you know, like even Maddie on yours where Rob did the repair under the rear bar. You know these things are solid

as they're solid in the seals, not as good as yours maybe in the paint you know and the and the cosmetics and not running.

You know they've sat since the early 80s.

So it's a different slightly different proposition to your car but certainly worthwhile saving.

So our good friend Tommy was, was was an interested party in one of these and Matthew's very good friend and mechanic Ratner was another interested party in one of these.

So it ended up that. Call me decided after much sort

of deliberating on the one on the red car on the red car he decided on the manual was was was the way he wanted to go and and hence the order was the one left and and ratner's purchasing the auto to have a play with so. Has he?

Has he fixed you up for that yet?

Yeah, yeah. All paid.

For that gets picked up tomorrow.

Lovely, lovely. And Tommy's bought a car trailer

so he picking up the red ones soon I believe, but that's great because it's another two scamps that will that certainly need to be saved and and with a bit of TLC will be on the road.

Relatively easily. I mean there, there are very

simple things. So you know, I said to Tommy was

saying, oh this and I said look, they got no cooling system.

You know, there's area cooled, I mean.

Really, it's probably just oil and philtre and plugs and clean out the fuel tank and the lines and tyres and shocks and brakes and off you go, yeah. It's not, I don't know.

When you're moving parts. Basically, when you break it

down, it's actually not that crazy.

So that's good. We dragged them all out and had

a fun weekend doing that and gave them a bit of a sort of a a slight cleanse from their 40 years of slumber.

And yeah, there should be two, two more club cars running around potentially, absolutely. That's the scamps.

I think I can shut up now, I think.

I think. Is the XR6.

Gone XR6O, you mean? You mean?

The the Gas Falcon. Yeah.

Gone. Gone.

Gone. Yeah, yeah.

The the Gas Falcon, I drove it to Canberra and back and you know I put 2 1/2 thousand K on that thing.

And yeah, I really enjoyed it, but in the end it I just did the sums and it needed too much for rodeo, you know leak wheat from the rear main seal, rear diff bushes, you start, you start throwing coin at that and very quickly you you're not getting any money back on it. So I sent that to Grey's Online

and and it sold, you know, the little profit in it, but.

It was just simple and easy and alright, bye bye.

It wasn't. You gotta know when to when to

delve in and when to not delve in sometimes.

Kenny Rogers, you gotta know when to hold them.

And that's about being W compact.

I was was really like, oh, you know, do I go, do I not.

But it's such a clean little car.

Otherwise I thought right now I've got a cheaper quote.

It's sort of deserves to be, even if I don't make much on it.

It deserves to be sort of saved and still on the road with those plates. It'll be sad to see it go with

those plates. And on the 74 Civic is still

lingering in the background. Will be sold in the next month

or so. Tyrone, you exhaust sorted.

No, no, no, no. No.

No, not not yet. Look it's anyway, I mean, yeah,

I need to get it done. But yeah, I no, I haven't gotten

around to it. I just see if I can get some

time maybe this week and depending on what I've got.

It's all bad schedule. Yeah.

It's only when you it's only when you start it up.

It's just once you drive it off it's it's not too bad.

But yeah, it's just something that's touching, a rattling against the body somewhere. Yeah, but yeah, no, this is

fine. Anything else really, just been

driving it around as usual. So no future plans as yet, I'm

just going to see how it goes. Most likely might.

Um, I don't know. Just keep it as is.

I did say I wanted loud and last time you did that we went out, but I think we just leave it, leave it as is.

And then after, after the wedding, might look at getting something a bit newer. OK, but I don't know.

I'll still see if I'll maybe just keep it as a project car.

Maybe everything is good internally, just needs a good, needs a good cut and Polish buffered up and I think everything else will be alright. But.

Yeah, we'll see how we go. Sounds good.

Mr. David Prince. I had a little well, I've been

playing around with a scamp sitting in my garage, just cleaning out bits and pieces and making a little collection of things that it's missing from my stock of stuff.

Um. The amazing thing about those

cars to it, when we went to pick them up, they had all of them.

The tyres were flat as pancakes, literally, like completely no air in them whatsoever. As you'd expect, having sat

there for 40 years, we stuck one of those little Ryobi air compressors on them and pumped all the tyres up and rolled them all out of the garage. There were no brakes locked on.

There were no there was 11. 11 Had a little bit of a break.

Yeah, and we were able to free that.

And yeah, what was looking logistically like a bit of a nightmare to try and extract them with a geros winching.

About and all that sort of thing.

No, we just. Push them out all on.

Air in their tyres, so it was pretty remarkable.

And the white the white car that's in my garage and the one rapper's buying is, is still pumped up on all four tyres.

You. Know mines dropped it down one,

but I've still got the compressor so when it's going up again. Well, that's right.

This is a role that on out tomorrow to the tow truck, so it'll be nice. So actually I actually got the

Ln out on the weekend and which is the little panel van version of the Scamp that I've got. There was a cake car meet at

Bourne and Thread in Bayswater which is a screen printing place. I'd seen it on Facebook.

So it was a bit of a KKK gathering.

Don't quite know they'll there's not as many K cars there as other cars, but there were plenty of little trucks and quite a few of those Suzuki carry, you know Davey Motor Group, Suzuki Caravans and Carrie Youths and stuff.

I took the N1 and and my mate drove the Ln for me.

The show David Day got a couple of problems.

This is always the case when you don't you know you're not running them all all regularly. They've set sat there for too

long without and out of sight, out of mind is the worst thing for some of these cars. Of course it's got a couple

little electrical gremlins with the lights and stuff I've noticed. So and and David saying that the

fuel gauge only works when the lights are on and then the the left hand tail lights on all the time and then when you break the 2nd filament comes on that light.

But it only comes on the single foot anyway I booked.

It sounds very land Rovery. It.

Does it does uncharacteristically so.

On Honda. Honda yeah.

I know, I know. So that car had sat for many

many years in a backyard before it was salvaged and and and put back on the road. But yeah I I feel bad that it it

just hasn't been used as much as it should because it drives sweet as a nut. The funny thing was we we I did

that in the morning and then we're actually going out for lunch. So I've oh and the other problem

with it is that it needs a battery so you jump start it and drive it and then it won't start again sort of thing.

So good thing is that it weighs 400 kilos and there are about.

100 people standing around so we push started it out there the Kakar meet and and you know no one could believe how light it was and of course he just dropped into second and and and just off it went like little train so followed back to the factory and I came back to Mount Waverley and then then we're going out to lunch at at out and kill site.

So about 3 hours later we were coming out of out of the the the lunch place and I was waiting to turn onto Canterbury Rd and the traffic is all going past and there goes the scam with David and another guy in it. So two people in it and a bonnet

strapped to the roof rack. It just popped up to pick apart

because he needed the bonnet and that was the only thing he had that out of roof. Rack so.

It was it was doing the doing the business and around and and so I rang him a bit later in the afternoon and said, oh you've been busy today, you know, like. I I saw the yelling.

Out on Canterbury Rd, The Bonnet.

On the roof Ohgi. Should have rung you, he said.

I'm so sorry. I should have rang.

I said. No, I'm happy that has been.

Driven, right, you know. Well and the tech tower I think

I've mentioned before the the donor engine that I had for it was actually out of the Z coop so Z360 coupe which was basically exactly the same engine except the difference is that car has full synchro on the gearbox in the scamps didn't have synchro so it actually drives sweet as a nut or the the the gear shift is just lovely you know so and that's a 40,000 mile engine generally. So it's it's a very low mileage

engine. So yeah, I wouldn't want to

drive it too far given the electrical gremlins it's got at the moment, but he didn't seem to mind and yeah, it was in put to good service on. On the weekend would work, yes.

I'm still waiting on. I still have a my red scamp

still has no rear brakes because the brake place who assured me here we can sort that. We can't quite find the seals

for the the 916 seals for the rear wheel cylinders.

So they're doing the lapse of old suppliers and some of their sort of country contacts to try and find a box somewhere of old 916th. You might have to have to buy a

few of them, David. Oh yeah, yeah, I said.

This doesn't bode world has it. I said if it's that hard, you

know, and I'm not. Completely OK with breaking

systems, but I don't know if the wheel cylinder can be adapted to from something else to feel. Like they can, yeah.

Yeah. In the US he restores these

things. He must have a supply of those.

Ohhhhh yeah. It probably would actually be

like getting blood out of stone I'd imagine.

But. I was gonna say, David, define

mate, that's. Yeah, that's right.

Obviously. But yes, yeah.

The thing is, those that stuff can all be remanufactured as long as someone's got the sample, you know.

That's right. That's right.

You know. But then that that takes it to a

whole other level. You know, you've got to find

someone that does it and you've got to do it in time.

And I reckon you'll be ready for the weekend, which is is operable, David. Yes, we'll see about that.

It's also got a broken bonnet cable, that car too.

And evidently. Well, the red one or the van?

Or the van? The van.

That's OK, You don't need to get into the.

Point No, no. Well, you gotta jump started.

Hard. Exactly.

But no, I've not found in jump starting cars.

Batteries are not a huge amount of money.

Put a battery in it. Battery in it.

Need to jump start it, turn the key.

That's how they get that's. How that's that's how that

works, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a bit me

for the for it. I think that's probably enough.

Mr Rob updates with you. Speaking about batteries, a

friend of mine actually went to jumpstart his boss's car from their golf buggy that they've got down at the workplace, and they wired it all up. Winter started and the golf

buggies got 24 volts, not 12. Any consistent The whole car was

totaled. Ohhhhh no.

What's up? What's up?

A car was it? Was a Jeep Cherokee.

Probably a good thing the president the buggies have 24.

24 volts, that's actually. What it it fraud?

The whole electrical system. Right.

Entire electrical system, Yeah. That's it.

And it was literally. Written off.

Written off, yeah. Wow.

There's a lesson for you, yeah. So it's up I think, so I'll

beat. Just been doing a bit of light

reading, you know, Rd trips, you know, you know.

Ultimate Australian. Road trip to Australia.

Like that. So I can start planning our road

trip around once I get the van built.

So I've been looking searching for parts and water tanks.

Grey water tanks, Because apparently you're not even allowed to go into a National Park if you don't have a grey water tank in the van, believe it or not.

Really. Yes.

Really. So.

Put it all out with the water tanks and so looking for bits and pieces and started to get nut cert kits and and put nutserts throughout the entire chassis so I can bolt up the roof and bits and pieces so. Bought the Nutsert kids, all the

the battens and done some research with an RV guy who can actually do some of the joineries rather than me doing it, so I can save some time. I can sort of do bits and pieces

and he'll sort of working with whatever I do, so it's real good. So I found a guy just standing

Braybrook that that will actually fit out the RV for me.

The van And so that was one thing.

So apart from that oht my son in law required a 2002 KQ laser.

Got a little love. Tap the father-in-law around the

back of an amrock and the tobar bent the bonnet.

Smashed the grill down. A bit of damage to the bumper

bar and the right indicator lens.

So I've been searching for Passport new indicator lenses.

I've got a bonnet from Ballarat for $125.00 A grill for $45.

I'll get the lives back together so for him so they'll have a spare car when the the cap tour that's burning all the oil.

Basically stops so. So so just to be just to be

clear that capital she, she bought that new didn't you you guys bought that. New.

How many cases are is on that? 140,000.

Well. And is it?

What is it? A petrol Renault capture or

diesel? Petrol 1.3 turbo.

And it's just chewing oil. Chewing oil big time.

So not not leaking it, chewing it.

Burning it ever. It's chewing.

It just disappears. Well, that's like that Multivan.

I had same thing. Because.

It's a precious so every time you fill up, you have to top up.

Yeah. So you don't.

Have a low oil light like does it come on?

It does, yeah, but it's already starting to make noise by the time it comes on. Ozzy, it's not still under

warranty, is it? Well, it's seven years old, is

it? I don't know, probably stick.

Not for a Renault, They didn't have a seven year warranty.

To do they replaced the ECU on it, which blew a about 8 months ago as a goodwill, but I had to pay for the labour to install it. They gave they supplied a part

for free. So it's up and running.

It's still going at. It doesn't seem to go any slower

or anything like that. It's not blowing any smoke, so

she'll just keep on driving until it blows.

It's running into the ground. Actually, I said a lot of kept

tools going around, blowing a lot of smoke that shouldn't be on the roads. And I guarantee that old laser

would would would would still go right?

And you got 140 again, 140,000, actually 130.

It's got less than her capture has and it's a 2002 model, so it's 21 years. Old and it'll be sweet as pie

with with that mileage on a laser.

The auntie bought the car brand new, handed it down to the sister which is the mother in law, and she drove it and Emmett learns how to drive in it, which is the same Law learned how to drive in it and so he. Sentimental value to And they

had it from brand new, right? Yeah.

So he wants to keep the car. Do you want to write it off?

Because I'm going to write it off as it.

Yeah, I'm just going to write it off.

Yeah, that's what they do. So he's pretty wrapped at I can

fix it so it didn't damage the radiator or condenser, so it's just spent the the radiator support panel or grabby hands.

It's so all back out. Let's see if we take the whole

it's it's not even a radiator support panel.

It's more of a radiator hang hang.

Hang. Hang on.

So you should be an easy fix. I'll one afternoon.

I'll have it all back on the road for him.

Is it 1.6 or 1.8? Yeah.

Good question. It's an auto.

I don't know. Yeah because if you need, if you

need a few like little bits and pieces, I've I've got a few things for those so. It was interior.

Seemed pretty good. Nick.

Um, it's got a little scratch on the back bumper, which will touch up and fix up. He wanted to put an SR2 kit on

it and there's an directing at the moment.

So I'm trying to reach out to this, the person who's wrecking it, but they're not responding. You know what?

You know what Marketplace is like.

But there's one at Geelong Pick Powers in there.

Maddie or nothing left on it now.

I've taken a few bits off that. Not even picked what colour was

that car? That's a burgundy 1.

Now our ballarat's got a white bonnet and the grill.

I can't find a bumper so I might get the bumper repaired.

It's got a little crack in it and and a little lag on the top where the grill sits in spoke it so it's not a big deal.

So I might try to get it fixed plastic welded.

I don't know what a bumper is worth.

It's probably not worth much anyway.

If I can find one, I'll put a new one on it.

Or new second hand one on it, but all up the paths were like like I said I. 100 and I think 25 for the bonnet, 45 for the

grill, so you only looking at $170 there, the radiator support. Seeing that holds the little

bonnet latches another $15 or $190.00 all up indicators of

another 90 A pair. New ones I bought on eBay.

If from QLD. So yeah, so basically for

$300.00 I have the car back on the road.

Many cases it kinda been 130. Oh wow, nice, very low case.

So they basically live in hoppers crossing and they used to drive to the station around hoppers to go into town every day. So hopefully the exhaust systems

are not sort of rusted out or anything.

But I'll I'll cross that path when we need to.

But we don't need to ride with it because the mother in law is just going to keep it under her name.

I like to transfer it to him or anything like that, so they're happy with that. And it sounded like their backup

car anyway, until the capture crashes or whatever happened.

I should follow the KFGLI today. Hmm, haven't seen one of those

for a while. With the nice hub caps and the

14 inch wheels. I was he was already looking at

coil overs. I'm looking pretty cool, I coil.

It it staged. Compete against humanity.

My car doesn't equal over, so he said he'd be he'd be 1 upping me there, so. Yeah, very, very good, 360.

No. So yeah, it was.

So what happened with the with the J63?

Did that did not eventuate? Or.

That was a a big let down and flop that he end up trading it at Sagami because they messed up the valuation on account.

So. Did you end up giving him more

trade than what he? Thought he thought he was going

to get. Right, right, right.

So basically I missed out on that.

So anyway, so I went and bought a motorbike.

Something relation prize bit of retail therapy.

There is all about bikes heaps faster than the the G waggon.

That's. Yeah.

Game W 1000 R So. Would be a very fast bike.

It's it's pretty quick. And I dare say it's not costing

you 80 grand. No, we're near it.

Be like $16,000. Lovely.

Scotty. Me.

Umm. I really have alcohol deal to

talk about, but. I just did a couple little bits

and pieces on the R31, chopped on some new wipers, chopped in some new number plate globes that was needed.

Headlights still all work, they still turn on, so that was a good thing. We're getting close, Scotty.

We're. Getting Where are we at with

this five year roadworthy? Five year, right, yeah.

Taken awhile, I think that's what happens when you chip away.

Your tyres will be sort of out of date, you know, but when you actually get. The probably all square, yeah.

It's pretty much ready to take in and see if there's other little bits that they've got to do, but.

It's just being able to get it to a place at the moment.

It's a bit hard when. I work you know, not near

anywhere or anything so. I'm taking.

Sick days, buddy. Take a sick day.

Yeah, I'd have to, wouldn't I? Is off.

Yeah. Yeah, plenty of days off.

Not when you want them. Yeah, you go to Dales.

Where is everyone else? I don't think any way would be

open on the Tuesday. Alright, goodnight.

Well hopefully that that's on the road very soon.

Updates with me. I've been doing a few things.

I went and saw Mr. David Prince on Sunday morning.

I dropped off a EF XR8 for him to have a bit of a play with.

So David, I wanted to personally again thank you on the show for fixing up those the CB radio holes that were in the dash in the back door. You're very welcome.

Very, very happy with the repair.

It looks awesome. Makes that car like the interior

is pretty much mint on that now so that so.

Yeah, I think you were saying it was one of the better ones you've seen in a very long time. It's the best one, best one I've

seen in a very long time. So it's been looked after that

car. It drives really, really well

and so was happy to to get those few things done.

So thank you for that. I went to the 40th anniversary

of the MR2 on Sunday morning at. Seven.

You didn't go to that. I did go to that.

I'm on my way. I didn't enter my car, I I took

it there but I just, I wouldn't have a look.

And because we had, we had a few things we had to organise in the afternoon. So we didn't get a chance to

stay too long, but stayed there, had to snag and then you had to look around and there's a guy with.

It was an like an older gentleman that was there and we saw him driving and he had a really nice same colour as mine, MR2, supercharged and I'll get there and get talking to him and he bought that car. He's an Aussie guy.

He bought he bought that car when he was living in Japan, brand new. And he imported it to to

Australia after about four years when he decided to move back home. And it's got 40,000 K on it.

Oh yeah, and I was like, well, it was mint like it was.

And he he's got all the receipts that he's for sale currently, all the receipts, all the purchase documentation, all the important documents. Like how much you want for him.

I think he wants 34,000 too much for you.

Is the best one I've ever seen. Like it's.

It makes it makes mine look like.

Really. Four.

That's it for. For that.

For those K's in that condition, it's not and Superchargers.

That's not crazy. It's not the one owner car and

like obviously, obviously it's a great import, but it's a person.

It's a personal import that that, that, that, that he's, he's been the only owner of the car.

It's entire life's always been garage.

That I think that's on the money for that.

It's not. It's spot on the money to be

honest like it's it's mint like I mean I had a little door Ding on the on the side of the door but you know it's all original apart from that and I had a good look at good look at it and.

Games. That upgrading sell yours for 25

and you know. I mean, I I'm, I'm happy with

mine. It's mine's an Aussie delivered

as you would like, Edward. Miles for you, you you like a

high Miller. I like a high Miller and I like

the story behind mine. And you know, I yeah, I.

Speedo doesn't start with the three you know.

Want to know about it? Yeah, it's it's it's like if if

it doesn't have a three in it, like This is why I feel, I feel weird having a Fiesta with under 10,000 caps on it.

It's like it doesn't feel right. That's right, baby.

It's not right, baby. It's too underused.

Yeah. OHS So yeah in any type of three

in front of for for me to even pick my ears up but so that that was it Steph actually drove the the MR2 there and and she obviously she followed me when I dropped off the XR8 but but she's like she's like yeah I'm not going to say it because she's like but I do enjoy driving this.

I'm like, yeah, I know you did. She's like all the steering is a

little bit heavy. I'm like, it's gonna power

steering. Relax, it's OK.

It's not that bad. It's gonna go faster.

Just gonna go faster. Exactly.

Right. Guys up a bit harder.

So, so yeah, so she she she was driving that, but that's that's pretty much it on mine. Oh no, One of my students, one

of my year 12 is this. He bought his first car and I'm

gonna gonna give him a show cause he's done it right?

He bought a $1100 Die Hatsu charade.

I love it. I love.

It so he's done. He's done it right 5.

Speed 3. Cylinder or the 1.3.

It's a 1.5, it's a later one. Or later one so that news.

New shape yet to 96. Second owner of old grandma.

So it's in It's in a charade pink because it was formally red. Now it's pink.

OK. OK 5 speed air con nostr and and

he's wrapped he was shot he showed me all videos and everything so it's so good and and for me that's that's doing your P plates right. You know what Marks love it

looking on a box. Yeah, it's only got 140,000 keys

on it too. Like, really like quite, like

quite low case for his age. You go for another 30 years with

nothing done to it. Much so 1.5 and he he reckons

he's he's he's he's like oh this would be a cool car to one for to to daily but also do nugget nationals in so you know every so often to take it to just one because 1.5 litres I'm like yeah

that would be a cracker for it so so he's really really excited he's a. When you looked up the school

today you know the the grin from ear to yeah he's one of my year 12 is actually so. So he came to do to do his exam

and he showed me and he sent me just sent me a video on on teams. Before of him picking it up this

afternoon so he's he's he's he's really really wrapped.

So yeah, I'll tell you, that's how you do your people.

It's cheap car and fun and and and learn how to fix them and learn how to enjoy. More liking it.

But anyway, moving to tonight's topic, gentlemen of car companies near car companies in general, they as as a rule, they they like to entice their customers by by having a cool model And for example, Ford's good at doing this, that they'll have a, you know a model called, let's say the the the Mustang.

Yeah. And and then there will.

Bring back on and then a name like like you know Mark one or or Mark E well sorry in this case Mark E and then they'll bring the name back for a you know a car version of a different version of itself. So like you know an electric

car. Honda has done this recently

with with the Prelude they've they've announced that as coming back as as an electric car but they also did it with with the Acura Integra which is which is which is now 4 door.

I mean they were some forder integras back in the day.

We never got them, but for just the four door only, you know, right hand, There's a left hand drive only, you know and people will be underwhelmed as to because it was supposed to be a bit more of their their sportier car.

So my question to you guys is you know it's it's it's more it's more basically do you think it's a cash grab do you think basically that what they're doing is wrong and do you think you know should is it a is it OK that companies bring back nameplates for electric cars or cars that don't represent what the car originally wants. So a lot of people have this

issue with Ford because they seem to do quite a quite a fair bit when they brought back the Ford Puma.

So. So we never got the original the

original Puma, but the the original Pumas are much loved car in in the UK and Europe because it was based on the Fiesta but you know with it was a 2 door.

A bit more, bit more spunky. That's actually a really good

little chassis and good car to drive.

So people were very annoyed when they brought it back as an SUV or a crossover. So is it OK that car companies

do this? And if so, how can they do it?

If not, why? That is my question to you guys.

What do you think, Tyron? Didn't afford Do the Ranger they

bought not the world track. What was the one below that

after my one came in? Excel XLT No no, It was cool.

Something else. Don't forget the nails.

Absolutely. FX4.

Yeah, yeah, it was that. We've had on other cars in the

US, yeah. OK.

But having it on, Yeah. Yeah.

OK. So they bought it out.

Yeah, that's that's that's the one that they bought out.

I I can. I see it like I think it was a

cash grab because people would not like not many people were going for the wild track because obviously the price was going up through the roof. Yeah.

And then so and not many people were going for XLT because they didn't have much options in it. So they brought out the FX4 sort

of like a mid range, more sportier looking kind of a thing. And I think they thought, you

know, OK, if we can push this which is in the middle of those two, they'll try to get as many as many people obviously as they can to purchase it. But yeah, I was just looking at

the other day actually at the world track, the new ones, man, like it's going up to like 80. Grand.

They're not cheap. Yeah, Remember I paid when I

bought my 50s? I paid.

No, I paid about. Well, with the extra stuff that

I did. I paid 60.

Well, I paid like 5 grand extra for like wheels and printing.

Yeah, but like it was, it was originally a 55 or something like that, and now it's going to 80 grand.

I was like, damn, so the same same garbage.

My, my brother spent I think 70 on the new one, 7072 or something like that. But it's it's a lot.

It's a lot of money like it's it's.

Yeah. But yeah, I see what you did

like that they just please put a name plate because the X files are famous nameplate in in in the states.

But that was for their big trucks, yeah.

And. For them to put on a small truck

was a bit was a bit interesting that that that they did that general what do you guys? Think I think some companies do

it well. When you sent the topic around

the immediately thought I was the emac with that horrible Mustang motif on the front where the grill should be and yeah I don't think that's I don't think that's a good idea on such an iconic car as that. I don't think you know, like the

fact it's an SUV and it's electric.

And all that. I don't think it has any

connection, but do you think of things like when the second generation Monaro came out for Holden?

And maybe I don't think it was a commercial success, but the the new Beetle was when that came out that was pretty funky I think. But I think about 2000 they came

out and the Mini and the FEED 500 and actually interestingly the FEED 500 and now you can get into full electric version which was. It's got very good reviews as a

City car. And sort of makes perfect sense

I suppose as a City car, but. As you've just mentioned, are

very true. Delusional.

Originals. Original.

That's right. Yes, the.

Beatles on a golf chatty, but it's very obviously a beetle to look at all curvy and you know. Like, I think that's when they

do it. Well, that's, yeah.

That's why do it well like Monaro, it was a 2 door Commodore and and the original Monaro was a 2 door Kingswood or whatever. You know, it was it.

It fits. They, you know, like there's

nothing Mustang about that bloody E thing.

Let's call it something else. The fact that they put the

Mustang name on it like there trying to give us some I guess panache. Mustang panache.

But at the end of the day I mean rub your Mustang owner and you've had a few. Did did it make you say what are

they doing like yeah because it was it was like why would they call it or are they trying to they trying to entice people to say you know what it's got it's got Mustang heritage.

We can, we can, we can give it to Mustang in there.

Playing the club, just saying the same thing they go, why are they naming it? But the reason behind it is from

what I heard, is that Fought America needed to name it after the Mustang for the emissions. They can't keep on making these.

V8 Petrol Guzzlers and gets. Ohk yes.

Right, compensation. Because it does.

It does have to sort of balance out, Doesn't like Aston Martin made that tiny little. Yeah, that and it had to be.

I mean, it's obviously an Aston Martin, that's the brand, but.

Why wouldn't? I would have thought though

Robert wouldn't matter, Like as long as the brand evens out, maybe within a model name it has to even out.

Well, that's all I know. That's all I understand.

So why they named it? Did they call it the Mackie?

It's not really the Mustang. It's Mackie and it's got a horse

on the front of it a little. Yeah, well, that could be, yeah.

Yeah. Look, a lot of people in the

club. We actually went out on the club

function about a month ago and fought.

Australia actually brought the Mackie and the new 2024 Mustang to show us. And they'll let us sit through

it, sit in the Mackie and go through it and it's quite a nice car. It is a nice car.

So apart from the name and the the naming of it, it's it's not a Mustang and never will be a Mustangs, but.

I I've never had an issue with with with the car like from all the reviews it's actually quite good but the the issue is tarnishing the Mustang name that's got a lot of you know racing heritage got it's got pedigree it's a name that's got pedigree and and you know and that kind of like yeah you know what are you doing you know that's that's a bit that's a bit that's a bit strange. Before they launched it, they

actually had 1000 horsepower McKee.

Drifting all four wheels. Yeah.

They can get stupid power out of them, so.

Hmm, it's it's. If you want performance, you can

get the performance out of him. But it's still electric and it's

it's not the shape of a Mustang. It's a four door.

It's it's totally different car really.

Yeah, but apart from that. Yeah.

What can I say? Speaking.

Good, now you're. Gonna say if you're gonna bring

out. Electric car.

I think it needs to be, you know, something that sounding sounding vaguely electric, like Bolt or Volt or which have both been taken already I suppose. But um, yeah, no, don't.

Don't go back trying to drag the prelude all from sitting on the fence about the prelude. Well, what?

Hang on, what is the new prelude supposed to be?

For electric. What interesting.

I did see the the the concept car at the at the Japan Mobility Show, which used to be the Tokyo Motor Show.

Is is all electric, but there is talk that there's going to be a hybrid version of it. OK.

I'm OK with the power plant going to full electric or hybrid because that's the world now. But you know if the prelude they

brought back the prelude name on a 4 door Santa Fe style SUV.

But if it's a sporty, yeah, it's a sporty 2 door coupe or Lux Tudor luxury personal Cooper, they used to say then I'm OK with that because well that that's what the prelude was, you know, different power plant. I can live with that.

It's it's more the body style be going from a sports car to an SUV or you know like come on people.

Well yeah that that's kind of that's kind of where I I agree with you like if it stays true to the original you know formula of what a prelude was like that that's that's yeah sure why not like but if they're going completely you know different then I'm. You know, like like like they

like Ford did with the Puma. You know, they went from a

sporty little car to like a SUV. It's just kind of like, well,

no, that's not what a Puma is. You know, like that, that,

that's. Exactly so.

So yeah. The Thunderbird.

Sorry, the Thunderbird. You know Thunder.

That's a good idea, actually. Pending, pending, pending is

going with. The.

Reincarnation. The original Thunderbird too,

wasn't there. Probably it was.

It was being 20 years ago, yeah. Big flop, did you say?

Massive, massive flop. Yeah, yeah, Jay Maine's biggest

disaster as the designer. Scotty, What?

What? Where do you sit on this?

Um, I think they should leave it alone most of the time.

If it's not true to the way it kind of was originally, like when they started bringing back all the muscle cars in it, the Mustangs are challenges. Their charges.

I'm all for that and the Camaros and things like that.

The way they brought those back, perfect spot on.

They're exactly what they were originally, but I feel everything's turning into SUV's and things like that.

We're using the names. Toyota Century bringing out the

SUV. I like the scholars in the TV.

Now you can. School.

Yeah, it's pretty much an SUV 2. Crossover, yeah.

I mean, I guess Skyline wasn't really just a sports car to begin with. So you know, that's.

I thought, I mean I suppose it should be didn't exist back then at work, but it did have 4 door version but.

Yeah, that $4.00 versions, you know that uses taxis and things

like that. So you know, that's fine.

They they had their base models and built up and stuff like that. But when you're talking about

the Mustang, for instance, that makes no sense.

There's no. Boring real base model of a

Mustang that was, you know that was pretty much a sports car even if it came with A6 cylinder and stuffers what it was aimed at. So I think they went the wrong

way on that. I feel they just try and bring

back the names because they own the names.

It's probably easier to use those names and come up with a new one and then copyright it and everything like that.

They already own it, so it's a lot easier just to use it.

I think that's what a lot of companies are doing.

There was some. Nah, I can't remember now, but

there was a company that just put down.

To extend their their name of cars that they have built for a while. I can't remember what it was.

I was reading about it anyway. You know, and they've extended

the life of that. And a lot of the times it looks

like they might build something, but they just hold on to the names. Yeah.

Seems to be. People like Nissan who had

Pulsar and then they go, no, no, no, we're gonna call it Tita and then. Yeah, yeah, that's a big mistake

cause no one liked heater. No, I knew what it was.

And they kept Pulsar. What did you say, Rob?

You, Alice, didn't turn into a quest guy or.

Yes. I don't know where they come up

with some of those names. Can't even pronounce kush like

that's ridiculous. If you can't say no, don't put

it on a car. Yeah, especially with the way

it's spelt now. You want something that people

can actually read, and it looks like what it says.

You know, pulsar. I can read that easy.

I know the whole. Star.

Very easy. It does not look like Kashkari.

It's written. No it doesn't.

It's, yeah. Do you think the Germans do the

electric cars like, well, the BMW, Mercedes, maybe even Volkswagen? That they stand to bring out

equivalent of the SUV's and electric the sedans and electric and they're quite consistent in the way they they're rolling them out. Well from what I've heard the

egolf that was released well and truly I think almost 10 years now. The Eagles been around a long

time like overseas and everything was well, was very well received and you know I didn't have any DS G failures or issues that that come with you know VW engines.

But you know that was that was well received and and you know like when when a car is done right when it's I mean the goal fundamentally like to drive is actually a good car you know like like I've always said like they actually they actually nice to drive. You know they they they they all

things well but you know maintenance wise was was bad so maybe an ego's a good option but like the you know there are other the other offerings near like I mean VW is struggling to sell the eyeballs and and all that stuff like that don't even have them here yet. Gosh.

Wonder why she had $100,000. I mean, they're probably put

themselves in limited market, I'm guessing.

Yeah, I completely agree with you.

So. You look, they look spectacular

now. They look amazing.

They they they look really good, but not $100,000 worth of goods.

I would I would actually are that's a that's a VW that I would own like I would I would happily have one arm and that is a cool car for me that's like it's it's the but see that that holds the essence of like the origin of comedy ban for me you know and and and and it does it well and it's it's that's that's like you know textbook 101 how did how to do how to reincarnate you know like you know a legendary shape but yeah price wise is just it's just a bit ridiculous but yeah I don't I don't really know it's it's it's interesting that you bring that

point up Rob because there's so many you know electric.

Variants and something more. So many model variants of of all

the cars that they sell. You know we in Australia don't

get don't get a big range but but then again we get like 40 ranges of the CX3 that you can get here which which is which which David and I have spoken about on this show before so it's interesting that how how that works but I don't know if it's supplied I don't know if it's because we're too far away they can't be bothered. I I don't know what they like.

All Australians have the infrastructure just yet so it's.

Mostly that I think. Like there's lots of the take up

was significant in the in the UK.

But even it was even sort of slowing down over in the UK.

But I don't know all the BMW's and and I do work for a couple of BMW dealerships, all the all the electric ones, they just look to me a bit like a bad 3D copy of a BMW.

You know, it's weird. It's like the plastic, the like

the fake grill on the front is too plasticky.

The wheels are, you know, they're they're probably more aerodynamic, but they look like they got sort of plastic got looks like they've got those transit covers that cover the molar in, you know, the factory, you know, just to me, they just, I find them really jarring. They look weird.

They look like, what are those? What are those bucktooth

animals? Forgot, they're called Beavers.

They look like Beavers. Funny they but like, but like,

especially the obviously the IXXX.

I I don't even know. You know what's on the other

day. It's the seven.

It was the huge behemoth of a car.

I have to double check. I'm like, what is that?

I'm like, that looks horrendous. I actually said it looks, it

actually looked vulgar. It looked over.

The Did you see it? Was it next?

MXM, I think was next M Yeah, that's what it was.

It is. 300 grand or something. And I'm like, who the hell would

typically spend 300 grand and open the garage and see that?

I'm like, that is just what the hell were they?

Thinking. No.

So like if I if I open my garage and said yeah I've got an exam and then I and and and show my neighbour my would be like mate I I wouldn't be seen dead in that thing and look you know it's interior wise it's pretty crazy and you know I've I've I've watched I watched a few things about it and and like people talking it up oh look how cool it is.

I'm like yeah it's cool and the inside and the functions that I can do but I'm like could you live with looking at that everyday and I just think I couldn't.

I'm like it's it's horrendously bad like it's it's I don't know what like Scotty we've talked about BMW, Sterling, Obama before they're they're they're on the piss man.

They they they've gone complete. They're gone.

They're gone mad and they've actually gone.

They've actually gone mad. Design in October during the

Oktoberfest. The October design.

You know how when they brought out earlier on the Five series and everyone was like, oh, look at the back of it, yuck.

That's actually kind of aged well, yeah, you know, around the V10M5 era. I can't remember what a 60 those

on is, yes. They actually aged well and you

can look at them go, you know, nice, you know, nice kind of handsome car. These ones are pumping out now,

especially the fronts of them. There's no way that is not going

to age well. I cannot see.

Just looking at that Later I'm going hmm handsome looking front end. Lovely.

No. No way.

Like that, like I mean David's going to disagree with us you know with you disagreed with us throughout the the Chris Bangle era. But like I I think now on E65

series is a really good looking car.

I think I think it's aged quite well.

I I still prefer an E39 that that's that's my favourite 5 shoes, but I think the E60 is a much more modern looking.

Look, with your mom's one, like, is it like you bought a brand new, just like, no, it's actually quite at all.

Yeah, yeah, they commented on it.

Because it was it was preserved very well, that car cosmetically and and interior and everything. And yeah, they.

I agree. I.

I. Was.

Jarred by them when they came out, but the more I lived with them, the more I came to like the E60 and it it did.

I think design wise, love it or hate it, it sort of holds its own design and I think that become a bit of a classic like.

E39 now look very conservative. Next to an E 60s and even the

one after it, an F-10 just looks fat and frumpy and old now and then he's 60. Sort of got a liveness to it

that I think. I think it will outlast the

others. Design wise, yeah I think the

E60 will looks way. Better than than an F-10, the

one that followed it. Like, yeah, F-10, just.

I walked past one today at lunch and I went just a fat looking Beamer sedan. Just looks like its owners.

You know, middle age and fat and.

He's doing nothing for. Society, you know?

Like what's it doing? It's just design wise it's just

very it's bland. It's nothing car like what was I

think, yeah. Davis Davis.

Staying remarkably quiet Right now. 360 Heights.

But that from then. On they all blurred like 7

fives. Or, you know, you couldn't tell

A5 from A7. No, no, and and that's what love

it or hate. It that's what the E60 you know

any? 90 and even the one.

Series hatched that Bengal era. Love them or hate them, they

they are distinctive. They you know what it is.

And there was sort of family Sam family resemblance but you know I think you know and and and I keep.

Coming back to Audi? On this topic, you know you.

I cannot tell one from the other.

Yeah, if you lined up an A4 from every year from 1998 until now, my God, I'd struggle to pick What the hell like.

Into the ageing timeline on no, no, they don't do it yet because you're fucking sucks. They're just.

Grey. Metallic.

Middle class corporate blobs that great because you can buy a. Card at 20 years old and it's.

From that point of view, yes. Brilliant.

But from a design point of you just kill me now, yeah.

One electric car. That I think.

Bucks the trend a little bit. I worked on one not long ago and

in the right colour combination I saw one.

In the Mercedes dealer not long ago is the EQ S.

Hmm, so the QS is the technically, I suppose the electric full electric S class class, yeah, yeah.

Incredible interior and incredible, and a really interesting profile. I mean, it's very distinctive.

It doesn't look like everything else on the road.

Hmm, Pretty. And then, and I'd call that a

handsome car, which is, But yeah, that's one of the range.

I mean every other electric ABC and D mean there are no look the same. Hmm.

And again, very hard to tell the difference between, yeah.

But maybe, maybe that's they're doing that so they can, you know stay conservative so they can sell cars because they don't want to be too far off and maybe maybe BMW is really thinking ahead with the exam you know, be like, oh you know we're gonna make a polarising they, you know what it is.

I'm still just like 60 of the new Millennium.

I don't think it will be. But it's it I yeah, like when

the E60 came out everyone was hacking on how bad it looked and I was like actually it's not a bad looking car.

I thought the proportions were right.

I thought, I thought, I mean the the Seven series was horrible like there's there's no denying all like that that was that was a. Shockingly bad car.

But the the, the E60 author was, you know, it it it stood its Ireland and for me. It's it's still a good looking

car. But yeah, anything new like

that's, you know, kind of, I mean the new, the new Model Model 3 Tesla that's coming out looks virtually the same as the, the outgoing one, you know, and it's and and and the posters look like a Mazda 6 hatch. That's quite quite actually what

they. Look like, yeah.

Basically my mate, that one I helped him buy.

Lives down the street from me like that 2011 Mazda 6 hatch.

That's your Model 3. It's almost to say he's got

that. Metallic.

Red So you can get that in the Tesla, it's the same.

Sorry. So, so Rob, there's no point in

upgrading your? Model 3 because just go buy 6666

is a lot better than you Model 3.

What was that wrong? Suspensions a lot better in the

new Model 3, but it has added stalks or Dr stalks anymore.

That all that's gone? Wow, really funny.

How? It's.

All in the screen now. Oh God, Cost cutting.

Cost cutting. I don't know, I don't know.

But anyway. Back to back to the topic before

that that we that we're discussing.

If it's done right, I think, I think we can we can agree with that that, you know, it's it's OK Um.

What could you see a Felt Ford Falcon coming back for?

Like, you know, it all won't act as an electric, as an electric SUV, Would they Just like, would that just if if that's the only way that could bring the name back, They're like, we call it a territory, wouldn't they? Because they had.

An issue V called it. They they did have an SUV.

Probably bring territory, Backers and electric.

Maybe. Yeah, but if we do.

That then, Falcon, you know. Well, correct.

Like I I think, I think they they they.

Wouldn't wanna you know shit on the name as per say but like you know like other companies might might have but then again it's a ring back the Falcon. Electric as a waggon.

That'll be good. OK, so.

Which companies are doing it right and which companies do?

You think need need to to go you're heading.

In. Which ones do you think?

Well, I think a lot of these big SUV's have been electric, SUV's have been a flop. I think Forward are pulling back

on the F1F1 fifties because they're not doing too well.

They're not meeting the the requirements or the range that they were expecting, especially in cold weather when they when the towing loads. So there's for certain

applications. Electric vehicles are just

they've they've lost the plot. I think you can't have a, you

can't. Have a a truck that is meant to

pull weight. And out of the way and and go

for long distance to be an electric car.

It's just makes no sense. I don't know what the hell why

it just can't do the long. Distance.

Far, yeah, but like exactly well, but like the concepts.

Good the concepts. Like the idea is good, but in

practise it does. It can't work right like you

rather have that as a hybrid. Yeah, you'd rather have that as

a hybrid. That makes sense then OK, if

you're if you're not pulling a load or whatever, you know you can still save on on a bit of petrol or whatever but using the hybrid part of it. But then when you need it for

what it's meant to be used for, you can then you know it's it uses the hybrid up to a certain stage and then when it can't and just pops over to your petrol or diesel or whatever and carries on, you know, well, I don't know what the range they bring.

Yeah, yeah. But it's gonna go for 45 K,

yeah? Where is it gonna go?

Where did you get me? For my house in the city,

there's a a bringing out the RX site RX7 with the hybrid Wankel engine that's going to if that, if that actually.

Eventually started to be cool. Like I I think that that would

be a way to bring bring back the Rotary, you know, because you know, we're all fans of the Rotary in some aspect and in way, one way or another. But yeah, I I don't really know.

You know I'm see like Tesla saying with with the with the semi, the semi trailer. Well, you know the Tesla Semi

that will be able to you know pull, you know as much as many big loads as like a as like a big Kenworth and and everything and and and and have and have the race like you know 4-5 hundred miles of range and what I'm like.

Well, like they're gonna, it's gonna be, it's gonna have to, that thing's gonna have to weigh like 4 to like like 40 tonnes to to be able to do with all the battery packs to be able to do that. It's gonna break roads.

It's not going to be, it's not, it's not going to stop.

Like, like, like, how is that, how is that even functional?

Like how is that going to work? Already trying to change the

road standards for the Tesla trucks so they connect all the weight that they've got to go down the roads our roads have got. No hope, they're already they're

already handle. Light cars.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think puddles are bad now?

Electric hammer? That's probably the only one

that might might sort of meet the requirements.

It's more of a City car and it's a show car then really an off road car please. I don't know.

Alright, so so. Let's break this.

Down So can we are we in agreeance that?

You can bring a name back as an. Electric car.

Provided you keep the essence of the car.

Yeah, I agree with that. You, David, he says he will

allow. Yes, OK.

Scotty. Yeah, I'm the same David, David

and. And Rob's.

Nodding his head, Neil, this is then bring him back to the Sudan. Yeah.

Don't bring him back as a as a crossover or bring it back as an AU. Yeah.

Well, yeah, so. That's the that's the other part

of the coin, right? So.

Can you bring back like a name for example like what Ford did with the Puma as a completely different car is that is that I mean yes it's still based off the Fiesta but like it's not what it what originally was if it even though it's not electric it's still kind of you know tarnished the name.

If there were to like let's say Honda was to bring back the legend and as a as a, you know as a B SUV, you know combustion engine, how would you feel David, you'd be pretty annoyed right. Like they'd be like what are

they what are they doing that wouldn't wouldn't fit.

I wouldn't wouldn't like that, although they do have form because the Honda Odyssey has had two incarnations.

Not many people realise that, but in the 70s it was that.

If it was a 2, 50CC powered 4 wheel go Kart basically, and then it came back to the people mover, that's true.

That is true. But but you what you?

Notice. Is what it turns into, is what

you remember. Yeah, I think that's.

Something that for all of us and a lot of people just won't remember, so won't make any you you changed something, whatever it comes. Out as that's what everyone will

remember it as and they'll see it as a flop.

So even if you drive around in a nice Honda.

A Honda legend or something. People go, ohhhhh, yeah, that's

the thing that turned into that SUV that we have and that's all you'll remember. It as you don't remember.

What it used to be like So it tarnishes the name and it just it completely ruins it. You think of Puma.

What do you think of? The.

New one? That just came out you.

Go. Yeah.

That's all that, that's all I can picture in my head now because that's all you see and that's just tarnished it so.

But it doesn't. That doesn't that also.

Then rule in the history of the car.

Like, that's for sure, yeah. Like, you know, like like if

you. Imagine like, imagine you say

like the I don't know, like what famous guy like a Holden GT.

Yeah, like let's say Menara, let's say.

That and you bring it. Out as a different card, then

all the history that it's built up till date is just gone.

Yeah, yeah, it is gone because now you've just taken the number in the name. But like you've taken the the

shape of the car and everything else and changed it into something different. Where?

People growing up now. Are gonna remember that exactly

when you talk about the manner. They're gonna think.

About this, Not what it was. Yeah, like a Monaro, people.

Mover or something? It's like, Oh yeah, you're like,

oh, the Monaro. Yeah, that's, yeah.

Fits 7 people and stuff. Oh.

Yuck. Yes, that thing raced at

Bathurst. What the hell?

But see, I think about Minis. Now, like, I think the new Minis

have tarnished the mini name. Like there's the freaking

different. Exactly like it's.

Not a Mini anymore. It's not like you're like ruin

the. Name it it's it's kind of

contradictory tonight. Like Minis are bigger than my

Fiesta, like, like and bigger than my laser.

And I like how how is that Mini? Like how?

Well, what is going on when they when they brought back the BMW, when they brought it back like BMW originally with that, with that money, I'm like, yeah, it had to be a little bit bigger, but it's still kept that same essence.

Being a small little car now, they're freaking huge, man.

There's like there's like crossing Pitbull people in the.

Yeah, yeah. Now there's crossover minis and

shit. I'm just.

Like what it what is this like I I'm just, I I don't, I don't.

I don't know dude. It's the the fee of 500C or

whatever it is on the 500X or for the phone.

This is the 4 door version. It's just Cherokee.

Just don't just. Yeah, Just what are they?

What? Are they doing like what?

Why? Why?

Why do that? I tell you what worked.

Bring her. Back the Ford GT.

That looked like a GT40. That was.

They they they nailed that. Back in, that was done, right

That was. It's it's a Have you ever?

Seen one in real life. Yeah, they are a beautiful girl

like there are. Pretty car everyone Now the the

one that the. The.

Ford GT from 2005 when they when they brought it back to to look like the GT40. They are actually a beautiful

car like to look at all the little details are like this stunning they're actually stunningly they're they're they're pretty car and that you're right.

So they nailed that like they absolutely freaking nailed that car like that. Was they 110% now?

And even the one that. I released.

Recently like this. It looks like a supercar like it

it's yeah, yeah, it it's fine. It's going by.

It's lineage. It's what it was.

So it won Lamar and it. Actually virtually the same.

The only difference between the car and the road car was essentially the the tyres and the and the transmission.

Apart from that it's it's the same engine saying everything and they took that car and won the more and then sold it to the public. So for me, for me that that

lineage is perfect like that. That's how you do it.

Like that's, yeah, you know you're going to do.

They do it that way, but I don't know.

I hope they don't bring a Vespa back as like a like a like a, you know, like a Harley, Harley Davidson.

Something that would be funny. Yeah, yeah.

I want to talk about the whole you.

Mean the best, but yes, the. Anyway.

Gentlemen Carquest Time, David. Prince, you've written our

conquest for processing through one together, so apologies if David can't win. Breakfast.

So. So the reason why David has done

this is because he's. Like, I'm sick of winning, so

I'll just, I'll just now come on, it's a break of winning.

All the time it is. A break of just making.

Us look bad and letting us take a chance for once.

Just for that. Matter.

You can score? Yeah.

OK. I was getting it ready anyway.

David, sorry. So, so we've got.

Ed playing We've got Scotty playing, we've got Tyrone playing, we've got Rob playing and we've got myself playing.

So it is the cartel car quiz. David Prince, it is your version

of the car quiz, so you can take it away.

OK, here we go. Car quiz question one What Car

am I? Haven't done one of those for a

while. OHS named after a Long.

Extinct civilization. I was manufactured between 2000

the Aztec. Well done.

Well done, Scotty. Pontiac.

Isn't it Pontiac? Has tapped, yeah, very nice.

Well done. Cool.

Scotty on somebody putting into it, he.

Obviously. Don't play down.

Do you wanna go check? You know what?

That's his history. Nerd history.

I was thinking Nomad, but then David.

Said 2000 OHE Hang on. There is support support check.

Thanks, Scorch. Scorch.

So Scotty, you're on one, Everyone else on.

Zero. Yeah, Cause I won't last long.

So yeah, bonus point, What was the badge engineered Buick version called? OHS.

Geez, that's Matthew. I'm just thinking Lesabre.

I don't know it should. It should be that shouldn't have

been. Didn't even.

Have a guest. You week.

Skywalk. Sky Work, Skylark, Skylark.

Skylark No attraction. I just wanted to say Skylark.

Marisa Tomei. All done.

All done, Buick. Rendezvous will the rendezvous I

like. That rendezvous.

They should bring that back, I think.

Should I should bring? That back.

They do. I like it.

Let's rendezvous. In a rendezvous, the question

too What was the first car to feature an airbag as a supplementary restraint? Matthew, Matthew.

How would be the S class? Ohk, OK, Rob.

Rob Volvo. No, Scott.

Scott Cadillac. Closest but no.

You as American? It's American.

Sure. Yeah, I was going to say

Cadillac too. Don't.

Know No. No good.

No. It was the Oldsmobile.

Toronado. Toronado, Coronado.

What year? Moses 2 gets a point in. 19 74

Maddie, I Wanna Say That. It.

That'd be a 79. No 787678 Tyrone. 70 6.

I was gonna say 77. 75. That we got 4, 5-6. 7.

Gonna be one of them. When you're all in.

The right decade. Yeah.

It gets the gets the chocolates. 1973 it was released.

Ohhhhh you won. Off went off as.

Always we should. We should have just know.

We should know that. Hmm.

If you go either way, it's like. We're off, shut off.

Christian, 3 with. The release at the Takamaru

Motor Show or the Japan Mobility Show as as being renamed this year Last week of the new Mazda SP concept Rotary.

What was the first car to use a Rotary engine?

This is really historical car quiz, this one, Matthew, The first car to have a Rotary. Sold the first car to use a

Rotary engine. It was sold.

Is it the? NSU.

Ro 80. Met.

I'll give you half a .0. OK, I'll take it.

Yeah, I only knew what diseno issue, but that's what I would say. You need issue.

But it's not the arrow waiting, which I would have said.

Hmm, not, not Wikipedia. Is a dangerous thing, isn't it?

I would. I wouldn't have said Don't

expect any of you to get it. It's the 1964 NSU Spider, OK?

Developed further, developed for the R-80, and then they decided it was a big mistake and Mazda made it sort of work.

So there you go. Here we are, 5060 years on and

they're about to release it again.

Hmm. Question four, which carmakers

name is derived from the Latin word for listen Ed It.

I know it's not true, but it rhymes.

Nissan. Well, I have another.

Can I have a? Serious guess.

You can have serious guess. OK, good.

Yeah. Correct.

What did you say? Howdy.

Howdy. Howdy Audio.

Yeah, yeah. Just go check.

Into. Scotty One and myself .5.

That does make sense. OK, question 5.

Where was the DeLorean Motor Company bases Matthew, Matthew, Matthew that well? Basically Ireland.

Ohe cars were made there. Sorry .5 point.

Five, OK. Ed, did Rob, did you go?

No, not London. Ed.

Ed. Chicago.

No, no incorrect. I know they made.

The, the, the DMC. 12 in in in Ireland.

I know they made it there. Scott.

And now there's nothing made in school.

And that was another cat quiz question.

When you got 50, you got .5 Maddie.

It was actually Northern Ireland, so it's quite significant because Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

Well, no, that's set. Techno don't don't don't scream

at me down the Internet people and.

They. Are there was American, but the

company was in Belfast, in Northern Ireland.

I was watching a. Well, one of the guys came on

the show. He was giving a say a real cool

explanation about cause he bought 1.

Alex Palmieri from Legit Street Cars he he he's bought a Delorean's favourite all time car and he knows how terrible but it's time still it was telling the story and the workers had to like agree to stop the Protestant versus Catholic you know BS that was going on at the time to be able to work there like they had to like they had to you know that you know they all had to work together.

So it was like legit thing it was like full on even even in the workplace. So that would have been an

interesting time to be alive, Oregon.

Well, the the British government gave them something like 200 million. Pounds as a sort of start up

capital, well to encourage them to produce them, produce it there and actually you know obviously provide employment in that part of the world. So based in Belfast, Northern

Northern Ireland. Christian Six Which car company

produced the 1st 3 Wheeled car? Ed It Reliant No This.

Christian. Matthew.

It. Was.

Uh, but not BMW. Or was it?

No, Matthew, Matthew it. Wouldn't be the.

Morgan, will it. It would be Morgan, yeah.

Ah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.

They still sell. It I think they still sell it

version of it. Today it stopped in 2021.

I think so, yeah. They're probably still.

Got some brand new ones lying around on saying I quite like.

Those, yeah, I know you do. Don't ask questions we want.

I like the three three wheel ones.

Still. Be a bonus question, which

decade was it released in Matthew Morgan Runabout?

Matthew, I'm gonna say the. OHS Geez the 20s.

That's what that's what I. Would have said.

Oh cool, you can, cause many has already said it.

Well, I'll just stay out then. Find.

That I like that, Scotty. Well, I believe he's right.

Oh, hang on. Are you saying?

Matthews Wrong? No.

Well, so it's quite he's already got the 20, so.

Yeah. So I can't take 20, OK, Yeah.

Um, what one do I say for earlier than?

20s. 90s the 10 states in. The 20s. 1910s Yeah.

Yeah, between 19119. 10. OK, well, you'll never guess I'm

1930s. Tyrone, 1972.

Long time ago, no. He's.

You can't. Think that far.

Horses used to pull like 19. 2525 there you could have that.

There you go. The the the truckies this time

go to Scotty. It was released in 1909.

Alright, well I just got in there.

Just got in. There, yeah.

Wow, I'm surprised with that. Yeah, yeah, I was too.

And the bonus bonus question Who on this show?

Has been talking about Morgan's the whole time.

I can answer that menu. I Hardly mention them anymore.

They still make them the same way, don't they?

Yeah, my dad had Madden and I think being lathe plaster or something. Question seven, What Car was

available? Available locally in the 80s in

limited editions, including the Vagabond, Ventura and Reebok.

Thank you. That's good and I think Tulsa

all. South correct bonus question.

HSV also released a version of this car in the end. 13

Wholesale Shay, What was it called?

OHP Matthew, was it? Thank you.

Was it the 1600 I? Incorrect.

Ohhhhh OK I I. Yeah, they they had.

They had a. HSV version of it.

Anyone else? Anyone.

Anyone. I'm not sure on that one.

Anyone. Don't.

Know it was the HSV VSV 1800. Ohhhhh yeah, it had a number in.

There it just, yeah. And there were that had the

family to 1.8 camera engine, you know, that's running time.

And they sold 65 of them. So there's a collective now.

There's a rare beast. One came up for sale OHS Gee

like. A year or so ago and it was in

red and had the full body kit. Cause I had a full body kit.

You had a full kit and it was only like 6 grand.

I'm like like. That's gotta be, that's got to

be caught. A rare like that's gotta be

good. Very rare and and that's the

cheapest HSV you'll ever buy isn't?

The buyer? Yeah, absolutely.

Tonight we're up to what model from the popular from a popular manufacturer completes the name of the 2017 Nintendo Switch game Super Mario. So what was the question, David,

I mean. OK, what name was used by

Nintendo? It's also the name of a popular

Huh, OHS Matthew. Matthew, Super Mario Odyssey.

So it'd be Honda. Odyssey, that would be great.

Yeah, Question nine, what were the trim levels available at launch in the Holden Commodore range in 1978?

Matthew. Matthew.

You had? SLE, which should be a top spec.

You had your SL, yeah? You had your S and you had your

Li. Think point 5.5 by Cal take .5.

Yeah, I would have said definitely.

Isn't that the L? And the SL and the SLE I don't

know about just the S Yeah, I think you're right.

Incorrect. No points.

I didn't have a Calais already. Incorrect.

Not back then. OK, The Calais.

Came out 80. Five.

Yeah. Scotty.

Scotty. Scotty.

No, I'm not sure. A little bit of a trick question

this one. Gentleman, there was indeed

necessarily Commodore and an SL Commodore and the base model was simply called Commodore. OK And the LC, Yeah.

OK. Yeah.

Yeah. How Uber geeky is that?

Well, we could Wikipedia. That one, Yeah.

Christian tent. Which car maker pioneered the

Just in time Matthew did. Matthew, that would be Toyota.

That would. Be correct.

Bonus point in what decade, Ed. Ed. 1980s Incorrect.

Alright, 80s. 90s I think it would.

Says 90s no incorrect. Iran Wanna say Matthew OHS?

You Rob, did you busy? I think you buzz in.

Rob. Rob.

Yeah. Rob 70s Incorrect.

Great, Matthew. I'm gonna say the 50s.

Ohhh Matthew, Matthew, Matthew. Incorrect.

There you go, Scotty. Just.

Buzzing. Well, it's not a plate, Scotty.

Gaming would have been. In the 60s.

So it would have been who introduced it.

Sorry, 60s, correct. That's all that was left.

Surprise. In the 2000s.

This could have been, but it would have been wrong too.

An American introduced it because.

No one in America would listen to him.

Yeah. Oh, really?

Yeah. That that's.

It There you go. And and to see it operate is is

crazy. It's just not in the way.

No, it's the worst thing ever. That's why.

Cause, Tyrone, you did working, yeah.

Worked there and. Every two minutes it was like

there's there's a lot of used to go off and it all you could hear was just in time, just in time. Gave me a headache.

I don't know how people. Work here for 8 hours.

Train system. It all comes in through to

convey all the rap, all get put on the production line.

Yeah, it's quite basic. Was pretty easy actually.

Robbie, you you worked on the line as well, didn't you?

An adult quality control at Toyota back in the 90s?

Really at the? Engine plane back then it was

only the engine plant in press plant and then the press, Yeah, yeah. So about 15.

Years after that, the the actual sembly line come across from Daniel. Take it off from Danny.

Don't. OK Yeah.

Yeah. It's interesting.

I love. It touring car factory and then

engine and then I think the engine.

Was the first one to leave? Yes.

Back then, we were putting out about 250 motors a day.

Engines a day. They could have Capri and the

Corolla. The Corolla, Yeah.

Hmm. The twin Cam Corolla that were

built here, whether they reported they used to be what, sorry, 3A and the 4S motors. OK, yeah, so all the Camry ones

are knocked. Down parts assault here and the

all the Corolla parts are actually manufactured machine here. Oh, what a feeling Twin Camry.

OK. The.

Character that I had. Well, is that the quiz, Mr

Prince? The Queen says 10 questions.

Very nice. Follow the place like a mad

person's breakfast tyre. Rob yet to score?

Scotty and Dave. Scotty and Edward equal on 3 and

I'm your winner on 4.54. .5. That Eric, you scored yourself a

bit high there oht we go. They.

Can't I don't. Know I don't know what's the.

Point of David getting. Out when you come in, you had

David to get out. Gives us half a.

Chance to do anything. No.

No, very good. Very.

Good, David. Thanks for the quiz.

I was really, really good. You're welcome, mate.

Very good questions. You listen.

Absolutely. I think it's a podcast, you

know? Yep, Yep, Yep.

Boy, let's do some. Plugs, Rob.

'S fabrications, firefighting, lawn mowing.

And it's called robos now. Not Jim, not Jim's right.

Boats, shed, building. All sorts of stuff.

Burglaries. Systems Alarm Systems here.

Installations are fighting, yeah, but it doesn't mean builds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He does it all laser. Repairs now.

So yes, camp scamp repairs. Camp prepares.

Specialist I just don't scams. Did anyone else see that one

come around Facebook marketplace with the racing one Yes.

Supercharged 600CC engine. Saying it to.

You. David.

Don't fly, I have been sent it. A number of times, I know you.

1st that there has to be a custom made supercharger.

There wouldn't have been, there wouldn't be like an aftermarket kill because. Yeah, yeah.

That would absolutely fly. I.

I'd be keen to see how that drives.

It's not crazy money either, I thought, and he had other.

Other scamps that went with it, I thought that was not great.

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, So what that was.

Reasonably like. Not too crazily priced.

It's the same colour as yours, so you could have the original one and the racing one together. That would be that would be

good. Fun Scotty.

Does. Golf tips of the week.

Well, tip of the week, you know, played.

Golf for quite a bit now, but I guess my tip is that you don't have to play from the back. Tees don't need to, don't need

to show off, you don't need to think you're the best play with play from the ladies. Yeah, why not?

How I used to play from the ladies.

Spot it was up closer. So yeah, play from where you're

comfortable with. You don't wanna sit there and

hit the ball and find out. You can't make the fairway

because you're playing from way back on the members area or you know, even sometimes the men's spot can be right up near the members and professional spots, so.

Play where you're comfortable with.

Enjoy it. So competition, you're out there

to enjoy it. You want to.

Hit the fairways. You want to hit your shots off

the fairways and enjoy it so. Yeah, find a comfortable spot.

Who cares what other people think?

In fact, most people don't even care to tell you the truth.

I don't care. Like you hit.

But look, you really think you get so conscious that you think, Oh my God, I'm doing these bad shots?

Honestly, no one cares. You're out there having fun.

Go for it. I'll go to a stage where I used

to do half. Half swing shots because then

you you make sure that you actually getting it on the on the fairway it's straight, otherwise you go full, you go full swing and it just goes left right then doesn't doesn't go straight. Why not?

Very good tips. Very.

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