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It's me, Matty J, online with Mr. David Prince, Mr. Scottie Doe Johnson.

How are you, fellas?

Doing good.

Thank you, mate.

Doing good.

Thank you very much.

Good to see your lovely faces.

A few more people are still going to join us in a short time, so we'll wait for them.

But let's crack on.

How are you, guys?

Scottie Doe just had a second round of parentage interviews.

I did.

It's better than I thought.

I always get a little bit stressed before them, because you just always think the

worst, but every single parent was just fantastic.

That's right.

They were just here.

Very lovely to speak to.

Best case scenario.

I think you're making me more jealous every time I hear you, Scottie, about your school.

I mean, have a look at the careers page.

There's a couple ones up there that might float your boat.

If you want a tour, just yelling out.

I do want to tour, actually, so we'll talk after the show a bit more.

But updates with you, Scottie, car updates.

What's happening?

Last time you heard you washed the blade, then it rained the next day.

It rained, yeah.

It's pretty spooky.

I know.

He's haven't washed it since.

Yeah.

It's just too upset.

It's fair enough.

I started diving into the 31 deep hole of turbo wing it and things like that and seeing what's

out there.

And, you know, originally the cheapest option used to be to get the VL turbo conversion,

you know, that people did.

Yeah.

They take everything off one.

Yeah.

It's a guy.

Is it a T3, T3 or T40?

T3.

Yeah.

That takes me back to a T3 turbo bloody hell.

And yeah.

And, you know, you'd buy all that bits and pieces for just dirt cheap.

But now people are selling for like seven, eight grand for the whole kit.

And I'm like, oh, so what's what's the option then?

And so I threw it into the, because for some reason the R31 Skyline forum is gone.

Yeah.

It doesn't exist.

And that had so much great information.

So I just had to go to their Facebook page and kind of just ask.

First I did a search.

Got to do that first.

Absolutely.

Now on the Facebook page.

Because it's probably been talked about a lot.

Yeah.

But my question was a little bit different.

It was more like, you know, I see so many of these turboed R31s popping up,

but not really saying what they did.

You know, what parts did they use?

Did they just buy a whole kit and put it together?

Did they use VL kits?

Did they slowly build up and buy little bits and pieces and put it together?

And you know, what's the, what's the best way to go about it?

And it looks like there's plenty of parts and that doesn't seem overly tricky.

I think the most expensive parts would be the ECU.

Unless you go like niz tune or something, it's a bit cheaper.

It doesn't seem too bad if you can get some bits and pieces like secondhand.

So I was having a look and fuel rail and all that's cheap because it used to,

because the injectors in that and the 31 and in the VL and that were different.

I can't remember what style or anything like that.

I'm not into injector talk, but you can completely replace that brand new fuel rail

and you can put any kind of sized Bosch injectors straight onto it and attach it.

And the fuel rail and that's pretty cheap.

And if that's cheap, then you can get the Bosch injectors, which makes it a lot cheaper

than actually sourcing brand new VL turbo injectors, which are very expensive.

So in terms of that, because it's a conversion that's been done, I assume many ways

because there's the VL way and then there's, like the aftermarket would be quite big.

You'd be able, surely like this, you'd be able to get some parts, especially locally.

Like I said, secondhand, but like I was just thinking you'd need exhaust manifold,

turbo, cold side piping, cooler, hot side piping, injector rail, injectors,

fuel pump and ECU.

Is that pretty much what you'd need to do everything or?

Yeah.

So fuel side of things for what I'm after, I could keep the fuel pump.

Okay.

Because it is brand new, the fuel pump and everything.

And you can still use the stock fuel pressure regulator for low amount,

but I'd probably just buy a new one anyway.

So you're chasing 300, right?

Like that's kind of all you want.

I was just looking at like 200 kilowatts of the wheel.

Okay.

Yeah.

That seems pretty doable.

That would be a hell of a lot of fun for how much these things weigh.

Absolutely.

And then if I need to, you can just pitch away and just add little bits afterwards,

you know, for a bit more power, but just to start off with.

Is that with head studs as well?

Because you don't need them for 200.

Okay.

Not at all.

People were saying that they're running over 300.

Everything completely stocked, not even opened.

Really?

Standard bottom end?

Standard bottom end will hold more than 300 easy.

But like still no head studs or anything.

People were dailying them that I was reading up about

and had heaps of kilometers on them and they'll still find.

So I was like, okay.

So I won't worry about that yet.

So I thought, okay, that's good.

So fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator.

And then on the intake side,

you can get a whole bunch of aftermarket plenums and stuff.

They're a bit pricey.

But another option you can go is just the stock one,

but they just do like a cut and shut.

So you don't have a crossover.

It'll come towards the front of the car instead, the intake.

So you can do that route as well.

Or you can still keep it the same way if you want.

There's a couple of options with the manifold.

Heaps of companies make the top mount ones,

which seems to be the most popular one.

But I'm probably leaning towards more to Rajab racing.

So I was looking at theirs and theirs is pretty much like stock.

So it's just the manifold comes down the bottom.

Turbo's nice and tucked away in the right spot.

There's no cutting.

There's nothing.

It'll fit in there nicely.

I think that's the way to go to be heard.

So I'm looking at that one.

It just looks nicer and neater.

The good thing about Rajab racing,

they're the VL kings really.

They've been doing it forever.

They've had seven second runs, 30 ones and all VLs

since the dawn of time essentially.

Same manifolds.

Yeah, yeah.

Their price really well too.

Yeah, and that's another thing.

I've heard, I've never heard a bad thing about Rajab racing

in terms of their parts quality and everything.

So because I was about to mention them,

I think they're the way to go really.

How do you spill that?

R, J, AB.

Yeah, they're big on this side of town.

Yeah, definitely.

I've known some people with some VLs and stuff

that have made big power and they've used their

and stuff before.

So yeah, I think that's the way to go.

So basically, would you go secondhand turbo,

exhaust manifold or would you just buy it

and then just chip away at it?

Yeah, I'd probably look at secondhand turbo.

There's plenty out there.

You don't need to go anything huge

or anything like that, turbo-wise.

And then there's quite a lot of secondhand

intercoolers and piping kits

popping up here and there.

So I could probably grab one of those,

just keep my eyes out.

So I'll just slowly buy bits and pieces.

But I thought before I do any of that,

I've got to do the timing belt.

And if I'm doing that, then you do the water pump

at the same time.

So I just bought that kit and it should arrive tomorrow.

Oh, cool.

Sweet.

Yeah.

And what's that kit cost for the R31?

Very, very cheap.

So I got that whole kit for just over 100 bucks.

That's pretty good.

That's with the stand, not the gates,

the racing timing belt, just a normal gates timing belt.

It's fine.

You'll be fine.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Need a racing one.

It's fine.

Even if it was a racing one,

you still change them at 100,000 anyway.

Yeah, correct.

When I was doing the MR2,

you get the HKS purple one.

I was like, well, that looks cool.

And then it was like 400 bucks just for the belt.

I'm not spending that.

I'm sorry.

You don't even get to see it.

I would have had to border like a clear cover for it.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

So I thought, oh, yeah.

So I've got that.

That'll arrive.

I'm tempted to try and do it myself.

But like, I don't know.

Maybe I'll take it to someone.

I've never done it before.

It's not super hard.

Especially on the 31, but yeah.

Like I told me about,

they do scammy a little bit.

They always have.

They do with me as well.

Yeah.

You get one guy.

You just get that one tooth out and then you screwed.

Yeah.

And then trying to get the timing back is just,

it's just better to take it to someone that just knows it all,

can put it to top dead center,

understands the markings.

Yeah.

And knows how to, you know,

get the timing right again and stuff like that.

That's just, yeah, out of my comprehension.

Even though I can sit there and shove a whole gearbox in.

Angel that, but this one scares me.

That's fair.

Yeah.

Nice.

Well, that's exciting.

I guess the next progression point with the 31.

I just want to say like,

I'm really impressed with the 31.

It's come such a long way from,

I remember when you got it,

you got it dropped off to you.

You've had it almost 10 years, right?

It's been a long time.

I was at uni.

You got it dropped off.

Got it.

And you started chipping away.

Got it on the road.

Then the, then the transmission said,

yeah.

And then you've put a manual swapped it.

You know, it's a credit, dude.

Hang on.

I don't think you've put enough gravitas on that, Matt.

You manual swapped it.

That took a little while.

That process took a little while.

We all lived through that process.

It was draining, wasn't it?

I didn't say it was draining,

but it was an involved process.

It took a long time.

You can't just say, oh, you manual swapped it.

You've got to drag it out a bit.

Put it this way.

You've done a feat that is, you know,

pretty hard to do.

And you said yourself,

you almost gave up a few times,

just pissed off the car.

But, you know, when it was all done,

like you said, even on the show,

I think you said that the smile on your face

was just, was worth it.

Cause you're like, oh, I've done this.

Like it works, you know.

Feeling of accomplishment when I put it into gear

and it moved on its own.

I was just like, I did this.

That's awesome, dude.

That is so cool.

It's a cracker.

Like, and actually, you know,

for its age and case and everything,

I think, I think it's, you know,

if it's plenty of potential here,

Scotty, like if you,

especially if you do the turbo swap,

it could be a bit of a sleeper is, you know.

Yeah.

And the good thing is I don't have to worry about

suspension because all the bushes in it

are all brand new.

Yeah.

So that's, that's all done.

All new arms and stacks of every bush

you could ever think of is done.

So I don't need to stress about that.

Yeah.

Oh, and I got one of the,

oh, what are they called?

For the, for the guards, the roller to

guard roller.

Yeah.

I got, I got one of those guard rollers

because I just need to flatten it

and roll it out just that little bit.

So then when I do hit some of the bumps,

it doesn't rub.

Yeah.

So nothing crazy.

It's just, for some reason,

it's got a lip on some of it and it'll come down

and catch and kept cutting into the tire.

So it's just pretty much to roll that back

to make that smooth pretty much.

Yeah.

Just make sure you heat it up before you do it.

Get a heat gun out there and then give it

some heat on that piece of metal.

So you, the paint doesn't crack.

Yeah.

So it would just be a tiny little roll,

nothing major, just enough.

So then when I do hit some of those bumps,

it'll be all good.

Yeah.

No, dude, it's, it's a car.

I think the wheel just suit that car perfectly too.

Yeah, I love them.

Yeah.

It's a, it's a, it's a great,

it's a great choice of wheel in that car.

We joined by Rob.

Can you hear us, Rob?

Mr. Rob.

Can hear you both clearly?

Can you hear me?

Yeah, I can hear you.

You certainly can.

Great.

Scotty's just informing us he's going to go

turbo with this R31.

That's the next step.

So that'll be.

Wow.

So.

It'll be a process because I have slowly kind of

bought parts.

So.

Yeah.

Just chip, just chip away.

Just chip away.

Yeah.

It'll be interesting.

I'll watch a lot of modi car mods and yeah,

there's a whole lot of ways to go about it,

but if you just throw a turbo on it without

doing all the other stuff around it,

it may not work too well.

Yeah.

Well, I think he's going to,

he's going to start, you know,

get collect these pieces and then

like he's not aiming for like a million horsepower.

Just, just enough to have a bit of fun.

I think.

I think that's the way to do it.

Stamen for 200 kilos of the wheels to begin with.

Yeah.

I think that's a, I mean,

I mean that itself is a good number.

Like my forest has got 200 kilos of the wheels

and that's, that's plenty quick.

You know, so yeah, 200 kilos in a car

that's lighter than that.

It's heaps, heaps of power.

You just want it to be more like the

blacky, don't you?

That's neat.

Yeah.

It's something to kind of throw me back in the seat a little bit

and just get the choo-choo sound.

Oh, sir.

David proves update to me.

A couple of updates.

I've been deep, deep in, in Hondas

that keep falling into my lap

in the last couple of weeks.

I'm, I think I'm earlier last week

I wasn't on the podcast.

So I can't quite remember where I'm up to.

The, so the, uh,

88 Accord Si that was extracted from the garage

across the road has now gone

on a truck hasn't been started yet

because we're going to drain the petrol tank

and change all the fluids and the belts and stuff

before we even attempt to start it.

Um, that's gone to a mate's place up in Seville.

I've now got an 85 Accord hatch at my place

that I'm selling for a friend.

Uh, five-speed manual.

She's had it from new.

It's done 105,000 Ks from now.

And it's like a new pin.

It's even got on the, on the rear quarter window

on the interior, on the handle of the,

the interior handle of the rear quarter window.

Um, it's got the little swing tag

that tells you how to put the seat down.

But that's from, from when she picked up

never taken it off.

So that's just like a little time warp

and drives incredibly.

It's been maintained properly all along,

never, never left to stranded.

You can get in that car and drive around Australia tomorrow.

It just drives so sweetly.

What's, um, I was going to ask you,

what's something like that worth?

It's hard to put a number on something like that

because it's a very good question.

I'll let you know.

I've been talking about in the trade,

um, that a few of us know.

Um, not Edward.

I was going to say, it's a strong chair.

It's funny because, you know, it's like an accord hatch.

So, and it's, it's not the cool pop-up headlight one

or it's not the cool first generation one.

It's sort of the middle one.

It's got the 1.8 12 valve head,

which is the same, basically the same engine

as the pop-up headlight prelude.

The first one, the series, the gen two prelude,

but single carb instead of dual carb.

Um, and I said to this guy,

I said, look, you know, it's, it's, if,

if only it was a prelude or a civic

of the same generation in that condition

would be a lot more money.

He said, but he said there are a lot more of those around.

He said, when was the last time you saw one of these on the road?

And I said, well, a long time

because I know how hard it is to find bits for them.

And, you know, they've all gone basically now.

So yeah, what's this space?

I'll get back to you on that.

But, um, I, he seems to think it's worth a lot more

than I think it's worth,

but he deals with a different sort of clientele.

So he, he doesn't deal with people that,

that necessarily are desperately seeking for,

you know, an 85 accord.

He more deals with people that want a cool retro sort of manual

classic that's unique.

So in that case, it fills the bill completely, you know,

and those sort of people aren't as fast about paying money,

it seems.

So anyway, we'll see.

That's two of three.

Oh, the third one.

Maddie knows this car now is a 2001 CRV sport that was traded in.

I don't know that we mentioned this on the podcast.

I don't think we have.

And this car is, explain the car first before we.

Okay.

So basically it was traded.

I was trading through one of the dealerships I do work for

and they rang me and they said, we've got a car for you.

I said, oh, really?

Yeah, that's good.

That's cute.

He said, no, no, no, really, we've got a car for you.

He said, we've just traded CRV sport.

I said, oh, it is pretty cool.

The first one.

I said, still got the picnic table.

Yes.

Still got the picnic table.

Okay.

So one owner car country car.

Yeah.

Not very much money.

Like pretty very little money.

I said, okay, what's the catch?

Five hundred and fifty six thousand kilometers.

Bloody hell.

Complete and out of full service history,

every service stamped in the book and then some.

And I spent the weekend doing a few bits and bobs to it.

It looks like it's done a hundred and fifty thousand K's

and a drive like it to Maddie had to drive it on the weekend.

I did.

I had to drive it.

It is.

It's remarkable actually.

It doesn't feel like if you if you blocked the, you know,

the cluster, you wouldn't be able to tell like the paint,

the paints immaculate.

It's not really stone chibi on the front.

I was a country car that from what I, from what I saw,

I think it was a Ballarat car in its, in its book and.

Yeah.

It was bought new in Ballarat.

Like it drives really well.

Yeah.

It's a little groany in the seat.

It could probably put a bit of WD on there or some silicon spray.

But, you know, there's a suspension felt okay.

That the little twin cam engine and that just, it just sunk.

Like it just ripped.

It did.

Doesn't play smoke.

Definitely smooth as a nut.

The seat, the four mentioned squeaky seat, you suggested has

not got anywhere on it.

It like, it's not, it's not the fabric is worn out.

It's, it's just testimonial car that's been maintained

and looked after.

And, you know, not just a Honda.

If it was a Toyota, it'd be the same thing.

If it's had the, had the love given to it.

They can basically last indefinitely really, you know,

if you're prepared to keep them and maintain them and,

you know, spend the money on them for the maintenance.

But it's also cars, especially Japanese cars from that era too.

David, like, like they just, they're just something else.

Like, I mean, it, it, it smelled like, you know,

a Civic I used to drive years ago.

Yeah.

It's, they all smelled the same.

And I've actually, I've actually believed it or not.

I've never even been in one of those ever.

I've never sat in one.

Really?

Yeah.

I've never even sat in one.

Like, I remember Ed had, was it a white one a while ago?

But like, I had a look at it, but I didn't even go in it.

But this thing, it drove really well.

Like it was, you know, it's, I couldn't get over how good it drove.

I'm like, you know, you'd buy it for the picnic table in the back.

Well, they're now 25 years old.

So they do qualify for club plates, the early ones.

A lot of them were lost in the Ticada airbag dramas,

which was a real shame because we lost some lovely examples in the club.

So I was going to ask you, David, with this one,

does that not, was that not, not recalled?

Well, it's obviously they've been changed or,

but it was really the early cars that were affected most.

This is a latest first gen.

So the first cars were the 97, 98s.

And they were the ones that, yeah, a lot of them didn't.

But they did come up with a fix eventually.

So if people hadn't, you know, gone in that first wave of,

you know, we can't fix your car.

We're going to give you money for it and take it away from you.

If they, people had dug their heels in and said,

no, we're not doing that just yet, then there was a fix for them.

They were able to replace the airbag.

I think it was the inflator wasn't that was the problem.

Yeah.

And it was just like shooting shrapnel, I think, too.

Yeah.

So yeah, we talked about that whole business before,

but Honda were actually one of the biggest.

Biggest hit.

Well, yeah, yeah.

But the most compliant of all of the companies in Australia.

Tragically, the only person to die in Australia as a result

of that airbag fault was in a CRV.

That actually had was a second gen CRV.

I think and they had had like, oh, it was, it was,

it was in court.

They talked about it.

I think it was five or six letters saying, you've got to,

you know, bring this car in and replace.

And if it did, but the managing director of Honda at the time,

he actually, they, all the, the executives had lists of people

to physically go and knock on their door when they,

they were down to the last couple of hundred sort of thing.

And if whoever lived nearby, one of these directors,

they got a list of the people and they would go and knock them

and say, I am the executive director of Honda Australia.

You need to give us your car back so we can fix your car.

So they were the most compliant of all the companies

at the time, I remember.

But yeah, anyway, I can remember when the CRV came out

and I knew a lot of people that bought them at the time.

It was just like the RAV4 was, was as the Toyota,

but it was such a good size.

It was so easy to drive that visibility was great.

And it took people who weren't even car people,

like they just raved about these things.

They, they could not put a foot wrong though.

And they had a cool, very cool commercial with a sloth.

Do you remember the sloth ad?

Jumping out of the, once you bought your CRV,

you started living a better life and jumped out of planes

and did topic with friends and all this sort of stuff.

It was very cool.

Yeah.

So I don't quite know what'll become of that.

I think Mr. Bunding has someone he's showing tonight actually.

I think that might be why it's on here.

But there's a few wrote a few things that's required for road with you.

This is a car that's never had a road with you, obviously,

given that it's had one owner from you.

So in Victoria, our rules don't require any follow-up road with

these until the car actually changes hands.

So obviously there are a couple of bushes and sway bar links

and things like that.

That's pretty standard stuff to be fair.

I've got an order in the Throck Auto already to pick up

all that stuff from the States.

So yeah, happy days.

That's a pleasant little jigger to have.

The only other update would be disappointing if we did a podcast

and my DSD keybox hadn't started making another noise.

But good thing is I've actually booked it in with the dealership

for October when we're in Adelaide for Magna 40.

Good.

I said you can have it for the week because it's still

under warranty.

And when I come back, I'd like it fixed and ready to go again.

Thanks.

So I actually went through the guy I bought the car from rather

than the service department because I think he's got a bit

more clout than just taking it into the service.

The last three services I've had on it over the last couple

of years, every time I've commented on the keybox and

they've said, oh, that seems to be fine.

We can't replicate it.

Well, they can replicate it now.

It's not hard.

It's within spec, David, as I would say.

Well, the spec's not satisfactory at the moment.

I think that's me for the time being.

Lovely.

Yeah, it's one to add to that CRV.

Yeah, I'm really impressed.

I can see why they sold bucket loads of them.

Well, of course, it's gone on to be one of Adelaide's

most successful badges.

But I want to talk about that car in a little bit,

but as part of the topic for discussion tonight,

but we'll get back to that.

Rob, updates with you?

Oh, I'm driving a brand new Ford Ranger Wildtrak

with a tradey tray on it.

Drives well.

It's a V6.

No backlash in the diff.

No diff noises.

It's going.

It's disappointing.

It goes real well.

The good news is the car's at Ford.

Ford have done the assessment.

They're both at Adelaide.

What have they said?

They've agreed with you?

No, no, they haven't.

This is a story.

They go to me.

Well, yes, we do realize your steering has noise

and now we need to get you a steering rack.

What the hell?

Are you kidding?

The car's not even done 10,000 kilometers.

Just on 12 now.

But anyway, that's beside a point.

So I'll be out without a car for maybe another six

or eight weeks by something to get a steering rack delivered

and pull out the old one, put a new one.

And they go, well, you took out your barrier

between the front and back so you could hear the noise.

I said, yeah, but the noise is there

and it's there between a certain speed range.

Oh, that's just normal parameters.

You put the barrier back in your own here

and I said, well, if I'll put your plugs in,

I won't hear it either.

And they said, well, no, that's fine.

I said, well, I'll be escalating this to Ford Australia.

So I rang Ford Australia today

and I've escalated it.

I think they're going to have that discussion and look into it.

But they're saying that the backlash in the diff

and the sludge of gearbox when you first start up in the morning

where it sort of slicks a little bit

is within parameters and it's OK.

That's insane.

For a new car.

No way.

That's disgusting.

That's actually horrific.

Yeah.

So it's all within that allowable limit.

So it's OK.

It still rolls.

Did you tell them that our friend Chad is in Turkey at the moment?

No, I didn't tell them that Chad's in the plant at Turkey

at the moment.

Investigating to their quality control

and their assembly.

He's speaking to his uncle.

He's speaking to Uncle Ilan.

In between eating food, the food photos look amazing.

They do look great.

They look sick.

He won't be on any diet over there, will he?

If you're listening, Chad.

Yeah.

So anyway, they'll have that discussion and work out

what they're going to do.

I'm not really comfortable in replacing the whole steering rack.

That's cooked.

Maybe put up with the noise on the steering rack

and put the barrier back up, put the earplugs in

and try to sell it to someone who's got earplugs.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I've never heard a new car this bad.

When I say it's not bad.

It's just bad.

And it might be alright as a work vehicle running around town,

but you wouldn't trust to fit it out

and take it on long journeys and trips

because you've got no trust in the car anymore.

I agree with that.

And that's what it's all about.

It's the trust.

And I tell them it's causing me heaps of anxiety and stress

and I can't do anything with the car

because it keeps on going back every time I want to start doing something.

So I can't convert it until it's working right.

Yeah.

You're not wrong.

Anyway, I'm driving a nice range.

So that's the main thing.

It's a beautiful car.

The only thing is they didn't give me the key

to the back canopy where it's not for me to put anything in there.

So I can't even use it as a uke.

It just gets funnier and funnier here.

But look, I do have the keys just built behind the back.

There's a little box there.

I've got the keys for those.

Okay.

I can throw in a couple of little bits and pieces there.

My tool belt and stuff like that.

Yeah.

But apart from that, I haven't really been doing much with cars.

My panel beat is MIA.

I haven't seen him down a workshop for the last week.

I don't know what he's doing.

He's trying to do an E-type Jag.

He's redoing.

Yeah.

I heard about that.

Yeah.

It looks great, great project.

But it's a massive project.

And yet he hasn't started my project.

So I'm not impressed.

But maybe I'm just too nice.

I don't know.

You get taken advantage of.

I don't know.

I really don't know.

Maybe it's all in my mind about the car,

about my panel beta.

Maybe it's voices in your head, Rob.

Yeah.

It's just voices in my head saying it's just a dream.

It's not really happening or not happening.

I don't know.

It's tiring.

It would be.

Sort of looking at downsizing some of the cars

and moving on some cars.

I tried to start the F100 the other day.

So I have to get another battery for it instead.

And I can't get to it because my dad's car's parked in front of that.

So I've got to get these Mercedes out to get the F100 out.

And I normally have trickle chargers off the roof of all my sheds.

But because I've been moving cars around,

I didn't hook them all back up to the trickle chargers.

But that used to be pretty good because when the sun came out,

it would trickle charge it enough to keep the battery just ticking over every day.

And then the battery would last for years and years.

But I haven't had the battery hooked up to a charger for six months.

Even though it was disconnected entirely.

It just went flat.

So it's disappointing.

So I end up a battery on its way.

That's it.

Updates with me.

So Camry, we'll start with the Camry update.

Got a new windshield yesterday.

And then today dropped it off this morning to get the distributor seal done.

And the road where the certificate signed off.

I was thinking because I know the air con needs to get done.

I was just like, you know what?

While it's there, I was just asking him, hey, just suss out the air con.

Just make sure if it's anything crazy, just tell me what it needs.

And I'll sort it out later.

But if it's just a gas, just let me know and we can just get it done.

And then pretty much that car is mechanically sorted.

And I'll take it to the place on Friday to get it signed off.

And hopefully have it have another club plate by the weekend,

which is exciting.

That's making me very excited.

So I can't wait to drive that a lot.

And then because mechanically perfect interior, 90%, 99%,

or 95% there's a few things that I need to get sorted.

Needs a bit of David Prince on the on the handbrake leather.

And I actually wanted to get your opinion on how harsh I can be with the steering wheel

because I started cleaning the steering wheel just with a leather cleaner.

And it was very light on a microfiber.

And the color blue started to come off the steering wheel onto the onto the onto the microphone.

So I was like, oh, I don't want to stop.

Is the first thing.

Yeah, I did.

Yes.

So I was like, oh, OK, that's that's not great.

So I might try to raise a little brush and just try to clean some of the dirt out of the ridges.

No toothbrush toothbrush.

Soft toothbrush.

So but I'll speak a bit of this.

So yeah, I'll speak to you about that.

Yeah.

So yeah, that's really good.

I've been driving that a fair bit.

And it drove it as well because I dropped it off to him.

That's the reason why I got to get acquainted with the CRV because he's like, oh, you can borrow this.

Drop it off to my place.

I got a good windshield guy and the windscreen got fitted.

And him and good friend of the show, Thomas, took it for a drive.

And they were really impressed with it after getting his opinion on it.

They said it's a it isn't from memories as a kid because my uncle had a four cylinder one.

It is a different car to the four cylinder one like in a lot of ways.

Only.

So but yeah, I'd love to get your opinion, David, on now that all the suspension sorted

and and you know that the engine mounts are no longer pulling the motor out of the car.

Best case scenario.

So yeah, I'd like to get your opinion on that when that's true.

But yeah, in other news, I'll wait for Ed to come on so we can discuss what our plan is for Classic Japan.

We'll we'll discuss this point.

And you guys are all welcome to be part of this too.

But I'll explain that to you guys when Edward is on the show.

I think that's it.

Yeah, I think I think we're pretty good.

So driving the CIV, it really got me thinking why do cars need to get so much bigger?

Like that car is a good size.

You know, it's in comparison.

It was compared to like a first-gen RAV4 because, you know, they're very similar cars.

But the CIV was a little bit bigger than a first-gen RAV4.

First-gen RAV4 is actually a very small car.

It's not it's not it's not big at all.

But then I actually on the freeway yesterday when I was driving to work in the CIV,

a white current-gen CIV drove past me and it was pretty much double the size.

I'm not even well not double size, but you know what I mean?

Like bigger in every way.

And I get safety and I understand all that, but surely, you know,

there has to be a point as to which the car companies are going to say,

hang on a minute, you know, this is not what this car is based on.

Like it's CIV is supposed to be a smallish SUV or medium, small to medium SUV.

Now it's kind of like a large SUV.

Like a current CIV is a territory size from 10 years ago.

You know what I mean?

Like it's it's they're quite a big car.

Do we think now is the question I'm asking you guys,

do we think that car companies are just playing catch up with other companies

just to make everything bigger and bigger and bigger

and not realizing that they're that they're making their cars bigger out of the segment.

So like like like, for example, a golf was a smooth was like a mini car.

Now it's a, you know, now it's almost a medium sized car.

If that makes sense in terms of sizing a civics of like a current civic is bigger than my Camry.

And my Camry was considered a medium car.

And then when I look at when I when I drove the other, I'm like, this is actually a small car.

It's not even a big car at all.

Got me thinking, do you think the car company that car companies are realizing this?

And if they if not, why is that the case?

I think they know.

But hence the reason why they put in an extra car into this smaller car in the segment.

So they got the micro car or K cars, micro cars, medium sized,

which used to be a small cars.

Then they've got a medium sized car, a large car.

Then we've got pickups.

There's so many different, how can I say, model ranges or sizings of cars.

It's not like it used to be, you'll be small, medium, large,

or a compact in America or a large car.

It was a large and the compact.

Now they've just decided to put extra cars just to make maybe more sales.

I don't know.

Does that sort of make sense?

It makes sense.

But also to tell to the point is like, well,

they're making another car to fill in the void of where that car should have been in the first place.

Should have been.

That's right.

So then like, what's the where's that logic, Rob?

Like, like, where's the logic that these companies are having?

But they needed that bigger car for people who needed that little bit bigger.

So then they've sort of, this car grew into this and they go, oh, it's got them too big.

Well, we better make a smaller car now.

Right.

For the people that want smaller cars.

But they're just filling holes that don't need to be filled.

Yeah, I think, I think for someone that's obsessed with Japan,

I mean, you go up there and I think it's still a quarter of cars sold at K cars in Japan.

They attract different, as we've discussed before,

they attract different road taxes and insurance and all that sort of thing.

Yeah.

But that makes so much sense.

You know, you don't need something.

And that's partly why we're going through petrol the rate we are,

because everyone thinks they've got to drive these bigger cars.

Sure, they can't do everything.

They can't tow a horse flow.

They can't tow a boat or a tradie trailer, probably.

Give it a red, good red hot go.

Because don't forget that the bed of a K truck is bigger than a Ranger tray.

You know, you can actually fit bigger things in.

Yeah, having had civics through the years, exactly right.

I mean, I couldn't even get that civic type hard down my driveway,

my down beside my house into my garage to take some sneaky shots, you know.

I can get a first, second, third, fourth or fifth, you know,

civic sideways down the driveway.

I mean, they're just, I don't know why we do it.

That's a really good question.

Of course, they're trying to load more and more safety stuff into them.

You know, I get that.

And that's, that's good.

But yeah, we...

It's upselling too, I reckon.

I reckon I might have to sell them.

Yeah, the prices are all...

So what they're trying to do is try to get a bit more money out of you

so that they'll make it bigger and bigger and say,

well, still a corolla.

It's still what I really want, but I'll stretch it a bit more

to get that car rather than getting the cheaper car once they come out.

I agree with you.

Like, I, you know, I had Mum's Civic Type R next to my Typhoon.

And I kid you not, I think the Civic's wider.

Like, genuinely wider.

And if not a little bit shorter or probably the same length,

I'll have to fact check that.

But, you know, I was just like, this is a freaking Civic.

Like, what?

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, it doesn't make sense.

Because when I think of Civic's, OK, and Dave is going to laugh at me

because he's going to be like, oh, you bloody millennial.

But when I think of Civic's, I think of like EG's, EK's,

like that's kind of my era.

And they were small, you know, like every time I drive an EK,

I'm like, oh, this is a great size.

It reminds me of my laser in terms of sizing.

I hop in my Mum's Civic and it feels like I'm driving a Typhoon.

It's in terms of, it is a bigger car.

And don't get me wrong, it's an incredible piece of machinery

because it doesn't make you feel like you're driving a car that big.

And that's the tale of a good chassis and a good car in my eyes.

But my God, is it like, you know, is it a wide?

I'm like, this is supposed to be a small car.

And yeah, it just boggles the mind that that's the case.

Which is fair because like my Fiesta feels like an EK size.

And it's supposed to be a, the Fiesta was supposed to be a car size smaller than a Civic.

So, yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

But I agree with you, Rob, about the, you know, they're trying to,

oh, look, if you can stretch your budget a little bit more, you can get into this, you know?

And I think that's a good point.

I think most people now are leaning towards larger cars.

It seems to be more popular.

And I think people who've got this mindset that the bigger it is, the more safer it is.

And they want to be up a bit higher as well and looking down at the traffic

because that makes them feel safer.

And that's just turning into, I mean, look at BMW, you got what, X1, X2, X3.

You know, they've got the whole lot.

Four, five, six, seven, eight.

Five, six, seven, eight.

Yeah, so that's just all going up in sizes.

It's, it's crazy, but it's people are buying them.

I mean, I see these X1s everywhere on the road.

So it's, it's, yeah, it's unfortunate that it's, it's what people want.

I think mainly also because things that you can fit in it,

they want that extra space, kind of like a, a just in case.

So most likely they're not going to use that space.

But it's, but it's a just in case kind of feel where they're like,

well, you know, it can hold this amount of space in case I need it to carry

such and such because there's not really utes around anymore.

You don't really fit much in high luxes and stuff like you used to.

You should see the stuff where dad fits in his two door Toyota Echo.

It's amazing.

He lays down the seats.

He puts in the green beans.

He puts the rubbish bins in.

He carries bricks in it.

He does everything.

It just, it's amazes me.

And it's got over three or 400,000 kilometers on it.

Yeah.

It's awesome.

Well, yeah.

I get like, and I had this customer come into super cheap, right?

And he had a, he had a Denali, you know, like a, like a massive pickup.

You con Denali, you know, massive pickup.

And he couldn't park it in our, in our car park.

So he parked across like, you know, one of the driveways.

I was like, yeah, that's fine.

Let's keep it there.

No one's going out.

It's a, it was a Sunday.

Anyway, he comes in and he's like, oh yeah.

I love my truck.

They start in the other.

And I, and I actually, I probably shouldn't have,

I said, why do you, why do you need something that big?

And he's like, he's like, you'd be surprised how often I get asked this question.

And he was an older gentleman to be fair.

He's like, I do a lot of towing and I tow a big, like a massive,

one of those massive floats.

And, and in the bed of his Denali is like a wheeler.

Yeah.

Turn table.

Yeah.

I didn't know that because I only saw it from.

Yeah.

And he's like, it's like, it's like,

is there anything that can tow it?

And he's like, that's why I need it.

And I'm like, okay, I get, I understand that.

I get you.

You know, I, he's like,

he tows it for work and he's retired.

So he's semi retired, I think.

So he's, um, so the work he does,

he uses it and he doesn't need to do the rest of time.

He's just towing around.

We're in Australia, but I'm like, cool.

Yep.

You're using it for purpose.

I totally get that.

But in Japan, right?

Um, you know, it's,

it's so efficient that people are just using for what they need.

You know, like you've got tradies here that,

that are buying and I'll be honest with you,

Ranger Raptors that have never seen a dirt road.

Hmm.

You know, I think I've told that story about,

about my mate that bought a, um,

a $250,000 Ranger of a Vogue.

Um, anyway, Ranger of a Collium,

like a couple of weeks later, how's it going?

Yeah, great.

Loving it.

We want to offer you a,

a full driving day.

Oh yeah, great.

Just make sure you bring your car.

And he's like, mate,

I paid $250,000 for this car.

Do you think you're going to be bringing it on,

on, on a dirt road,

let alone a drive jack.

So like, you know, and this is a massive car.

And he's, and he, you know, he's got three,

he's got three kids, but like, even then it's too,

it's still too big for that, you know,

like we stuff it three kids in the back of our Camry,

you know,

Oh, we turned that all right.

So you know what I mean?

It's just, um, yeah,

I think that the interior is a smaller.

I think you feel cocooned because the pillars are so thick

these days.

Yeah.

And I think it feels so much more claustrophobic

in the newer cars,

even though they're bigger or you look on the,

on the outside, but on the inside,

everything feels like it's all closed in.

Just doesn't feel as big.

And that, that's partly a safety thing.

You know, the pillars are stronger and more supportive

of the roof.

Which is good thing.

That's fine.

But, but from a primary safety point of view,

that's good secondary safety,

but from primary safety point of view,

visibility is so important, you know,

so you can see,

trying that CRV the other day.

I mean, you look over your shoulder,

you can see everything, you know,

you see whatever's in the lane next to you.

Casey's point is this friend

who's a chord that I'm trying to sell for her,

she bought a Hyundai venue.

She's scared to drive the thing.

You know, she said,

she said,

I could see everything out of the accord, you know,

every,

and that was part of the reason she got rid of it

by vulnerable in it because of the size

and how low it was sort of thing.

So she wanted something a bit higher,

but yeah, it comes at a price really.

And I'm going to say,

I'm going to,

Scotty, tin full hat on.

I mean, your hat's always on,

let's be honest here.

But I think car companies are making cars

bigger to kind of intimidate the smaller cars.

People are like,

oh, maybe I need a bigger car

because I don't feel safe in this car anymore.

And you know, that's genuinely,

you know,

how I kind of feel.

My brother,

the other day we went and picked up his brand new car,

but anyway,

I picked him up in my laser and he's like,

and he's like,

oh, can I drive him?

Like, yeah, sure.

You know, threw him the keys

and he just started laughing.

I'm like, what's so funny?

He's always like,

he's like,

you know,

first of all,

like he had,

he actually believed in my,

he passed his driving test in that car

to get his,

to get his P plates

because the car he was meant to use

got hit up the arse when he was driving it

by a person that wasn't looking.

So the car was getting repaired.

So he's like,

I need to use the laser for my driving test.

But anyway,

he was driving it

and he's like,

it's actually refreshing.

I'm like, what do you mean?

It's refreshing not to have anything

bonging at you,

digging at you,

binging at you.

You know, there's no big things.

He's like, it's,

you can see,

it's like, you know,

you can see around you.

Like the pillars aren't huge.

He's like,

oh yeah,

like it's actually,

it is a refreshing experience

because like all you know,

like,

I mean,

his current car is a,

a Ranger Raptor,

which is just bings and bongs at you.

He's got,

his wife's got a Santa Fe.

You know,

he's obviously got his F6,

which,

which is just kind of like a race car

at this point.

But then the car he bought,

you know,

is,

it's pretty epic.

But like,

again,

just everything screens galore,

you know,

binging,

everything's just bonging at you.

So I,

like the fact that my brother said,

it's actually refreshing,

it's almost weird to hop back

into a car that's got nothing.

You know,

kind of sets the scene as to where

we're going as a,

as a,

sorry.

I think that's the next thing that's

coming in,

not the size of the car,

but the size of the screen inside

the car now.

Yeah.

That's becoming huge.

Like all the dealers are talking

about it saying,

this one's got a blah,

blah, blah inch size screen.

And you do this and that.

And the screen's huge on there.

I don't even understand that big.

No.

Get distracted already,

let alone having this big screen

in the middle.

Yep.

Yeah.

It's a massive distraction.

We already get distracted enough

with tiny,

tiny buttons and tiny devices.

Imagine how many bigger screens.

Imagine a rotol and fatalities.

If,

you know,

people didn't have all the safety

and all the features in the cars.

People would have to drive a car again.

I know.

Yeah.

Rageous.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

Wasn't there,

that's,

it was a question in the quiz

where most people turn it off.

Yeah.

Bings and bombs.

That's a,

that's a true because like it's just like,

it's so,

you know,

it's so invasive.

Like the,

like I think I mentioned earlier that

my housemate,

George,

he's,

he loves it.

He reckons it's a great car.

But the lady we bought her off had everything turned off

and we asked her why she's like,

it just,

it was too much.

Yeah.

Like, you know,

and that kind of if you turn it off,

it stays off for the next time you start it,

which is great.

But like,

like it binged and bonged and carried on and,

you know,

constantly slam on the brakes and do things.

And I'm just like,

no, I,

that's just,

I mean,

that for me is,

you know,

crazy.

Now,

now my fiesta's got,

you know,

autonomous braking,

but it'll warn you first before it hits the brakes.

It'll go,

I'm like,

okay.

Yeah.

You're right.

Yeah.

But apparently in those cars,

those brakes are on and for me,

that's dangerous.

You know,

like that's,

that's an issue.

Yeah.

You know,

I,

I've done that before and it's done it for like no reason.

Yeah.

It's just,

get the shit out of me.

It's just all the sudden,

oh,

this is great hard on you for no reason.

Yeah.

It's,

it's amazing technology.

Yes.

But I also think it's

not making not helping us to become better drivers.

And when it fails,

you know,

at the end of the day,

At the end of the day, it's a computer.

Computers fail, right?

Like that's just, you know, things break.

Like technology is not perfect.

Humans aren't perfect.

And that's-

You're not turning it back on

and getting it 100Ks on the freeway.

Correcto Mundo.

So, I don't know, man.

It's a...

I get that because obviously, yeah.

Computers and that fail.

Humans do too, but we're meant to be

if you've got that system that fails

or you should be adequate enough as a backup.

If you haven't practised or know what you're doing

when it comes to driving,

you're not going to be that backup.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

You still need to have those skills, no matter what.

Mm-hmm.

In case it does fail.

I agree.

I was talking to one of my friends the other day.

She took all the students to the museum.

I think they've got this driver, Ed.

You know, zero or something like that.

Fatalities that they're trying to promote.

Kids through school system to stay safe

and the way they drive safely and whatnot.

But it's all good about talking about this stuff,

but actually, I think they need to get into the cars

and experience the cars

and drive them in a controlled environment.

Correct.

Correcto, yeah.

With the safety gear on, the safety gear off and...

See the differences.

You see all the differences, yeah.

I agree.

It's really the biggest common...

Well, it used to be the biggest common denominator

of what kids were going to do when they leave school.

Some say they'd be driving a car, you would think.

I mean, the age at which kids have started

getting their licenses going up all the time,

you know, like a lot of 18-year-olds don't rush out

and get their license in here.

That's because you need 200 hours

and not everyone's got that luxury of getting 200 hours as well.

True.

And it's not quality 200 hours either.

Not always.

No.

It could just be just a boring freeway.

Just stay straight and you've racked up those hours

as opposed to maybe someone that did an hour in the city.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah, back post.

Yeah, hour in the city, country roads.

Gravel roads.

Yeah.

We're trying on a Friday afternoon

trying to find the right exit off the M1

at the other side of the Westgate Bridge.

Mm-hmm.

Just park in the city, find a park in the city.

Yeah.

It's a stress-inducing thing of, I hate, I hate the city.

No.

Deep box turn.

The city's fine, Scotty.

I had no issues in the...

I've got no issues in the...

I had issues when I got to Bloody Kyoto.

Yeah.

Like the freaking spaghetti that...

We had to take two different trips.

Like, it was crazy.

Steph and I never had so much anxiety in a car ever.

Getting on to the freeway and there was like,

there was like four entrances that were doing loops like this

and I was like, what the hell is going on?

And I said, but anyway, we figured it out.

We got there.

We just took it a little bit longer.

There's only younger people not getting their licenses.

I've got a relation who didn't get his license for a long time,

but he put all his effort into learning to fly a plane.

He actually was working for Qantas before he had a driver's license.

That's crazy.

He was flying dash eights in and out of like rural Queensland

where the minors, the fly-fo minors and stuff, you know.

And, you know, he teed Doften regalis of stories of, you know,

taking off into a, you know, on a particularly stormy day

and all this sort of thing.

And I just couldn't help myself.

I just said to him one day, I said, tell you what, mate,

you go and get a license and then find a car park

at Chadston on a Saturday morning.

I said, then I'll be impressed.

Good luck.

There's no one else in the sky, you know.

Oh, fuck.

Well, they're up, but, you know, like, he can,

not only the proximity.

I took a less flying listen in the Cessna

and it was the scariest thing ever.

In trying to land when the control tower goes,

you've got one shot at it only.

There's three other planes behind you.

You've got to land it now.

Not.

You shit yourself.

But while you're flying in the air, it's all right.

It's sort of, you know, taking off is okay.

Yeah, it's all easy.

It's actually landing it down and it's in the airport

with a whole lot of planes coming in.

That's scary.

Yeah.

That's a solid enough for me.

All right, flying my F18 on my flight sim.

It goes all right.

I need to learn all the controls and stuff,

but, you know, I'm getting there.

Easy, mate.

Easy.

I program my GPS guided bombs and everything now.

Yeah.

Do you find, do you get queasy when you're looking

at the altimeter and everything else

and trying to, you know, look at the dash at the same time

and you can't really see anything but the sky?

You get a bit queasy.

With VR, you can.

With VR, yeah.

It's the same thing in real life.

It's probably a bit like VR.

Yeah.

It's like with VR also with, if you're playing a game

where you're actually moving,

it can be really off-putting as well.

So if you're running, you're like, whoa, trying to bounce.

And yet the F1 drivers, don't they actually do

a lot of VR sim type stuff?

Yeah, they do.

Yeah, heaps.

Yeah.

Okay.

That must be pretty good.

We got my data flight experience years ago.

It was the one in QV.

He's obviously never done anything like that before.

And when he landed, he landed really hard.

The whole thing shook me.

And the guy was like, yeah, that would have probably

done some damage.

I'm like, some.

He's like, the plane, no one would have survived.

I was like, yeah.

That scares the crap out of me.

I don't think I could do that.

But anyway, to answer the question that we had earlier,

I fact-checked it, David Brince.

So the typhoon in width is 1,864 millimeters.

Yeah.

The type-iron width, the FL5, is 1,890 millimeters.

So it is fair bit wider, which just blows my mind

that a sim is wider.

It can close to two meters wide.

It is fat.

It's a fat car.

It is fat car.

But it's not as long.

The typhoon is still longer.

But in terms of wheel base, there's not much in it.

So wheel base is 2829 on the typhoon.

And 2735 on the city.

So there's actually not a lot in that.

So no wonder why it felt virtually the same.

Yeah, correct.

Wow, yeah, that's pretty.

And that makes me feel weird because it wasn't just me

not being able to get the car down the side of the house.

It literally wouldn't fit.

It literally would not fit.

So, yes.

But anyway, look, I think hopefully car companies

do some refreshing things and start saying,

OK, maybe we're making the models too big

and just try to keep them the same size.

Interestingly, even in the electric car space,

I mean, when the Hyundai released here,

I don't know if I think it is.

Only five, yeah.

Only six.

The first one that's also an in.

So that was based, you know,

oh, what platform we base it on?

Let's go the biggest car we have in the range.

Let's go the Palace Age.

So had that car been two thirds the size,

I reckon it would have been a much,

and obviously a bigger car,

they can charge more money for it.

But I reckon they would have done much better

with that car if it was two thirds the size.

Can I just say that's still my favorite looking electric car?

I think it's a great looking car,

especially in proportions are excellent.

But when you get up to like,

holy crap, this thing's huge.

Yeah, that's right.

If you put it next to, let's say, an i30N,

it's a lot bigger in every dimension.

It's just like a jacked up one of those.

Yeah, weird.

I think they should have done it based on a smaller car.

But you know, we don't run high.

You know, David.

Anyway, let's move on to the car quiz, gentlemen.

So the car quiz for this evening is,

I've made it a little bit different.

I've taken a leaf out of Scotty's book

and have done something a bit different as well as David.

And thank you again, Rob, for the episode for last week.

That was a good episode.

It was probably the hardest quiz we've ever had on the show.

And there's nothing wrong with that

because you always learn something from us.

Absolutely.

So we've got David, we've got Rob,

and we've got Scotty Doe playing.

So this time, I'm going to read you then.

I'm going to ask you the name of a song.

And you're going to tell me which ad it was on for a car.

What car commercial was it?

Oh, OK.

It's cool.

Oh, gosh.

Basically, I'm going to take the name of the song.

Back to you boys, whatever it was,

and you'd be like, oh, it was for this car in this model.

Yep, yep, yep.

All right.

So I want to give you...

So each question is worth two points here, gentlemen.

This time.

Two points.

OK.

Well, actually, I'll rephrase that.

I'll mention the ones that are worth two points

because some are for the whole range of that brand.

So...

But I'll be...

Oh, OK.

I get you.

All right.

Question number one.

What vehicle featured the commercial where the song

Baby Come Back by player was featured?

Scott.

That was the Toyota Hilux.

That is two points to you, Scottie.

Well done.

I can even tell you the whole ad of what happened to me.

It's very funny.

Is that the one that ends up in the surf?

It does, yeah.

It falls off the cliff.

And he's all sad and depressed

and his wife is feeding him

and he's all sad and depressed

and everything to the whole thing.

And then he's walking on the beach

and he sees that they're sitting there, the beach.

That's a great ad.

That is one of my all-time favorite automotive ads.

It is brilliant.

It's a brilliant ad.

Love that.

Question number two.

What vehicle featured was featured in the commercial

where the song Amazing by Alex Lloyd was featured?

David.

It was a Ford.

That's one point.

Was it a Territory?

It was a Territory.

Well done.

Territory correct.

Yep.

I remember the ads and the Territory went from the city

if it's like city Territory to like beach Territory

to you know it went all over different places.

It was a good marketing.

Great ad.

Great song.

Question number three.

What vehicles?

Vehicles.

So this one is a single point question.

Featured in the commercial the song

Don't Hold Back by the Pop Bellies.

I can see it.

It's a good song by the Pop Bellies.

I'll give you guys a hint.

I'll have a guess.

I'll wait for the hint.

Rob, you had one of these.

That's the hint.

Oh, I had one of them.

So I should know.

You should know.

Yeah, correct.

Rob.

This is Dukie XL7.

It's not correct.

All right, guys.

XR6.

That's none of those.

You could say any adverts.

Jimmy.

I can picture it as a small car.

Scott.

Oh.

Is it a Suzuki?

Incorrect.

Don't Hold Back by the Pop Bellies.

I think this is wrong given the hint.

But was it a Mitsubishi?

Incorrect.

It was Jeep.

Jeep had the marketing.

I did have three of that.

I did have three or four Jeeps.

I bet you've forgotten them all, haven't you?

Yeah.

Well, we know I was picturing the song with a small car.

I forgot it because they were uneventful

and nothing of it went wrong with my Jeeps.

Which is surprising.

Very surprising.

Yeah, so the whole Jeep range,

they had that song for.

And their actual slogan for a while was Don't Hold Back.

And that's the reason why they used that song.

Question number four.

What vehicles, I should say,

featured in the commercial where the song,

Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now by Starship was featured?

David.

Subaru.

Subaru is correct.

One point to you, David.

That's a great ad.

That is one of my all-time favorites.

Cracker.

Lovely way to honor the history of the brand

and the different models coming through here.

Fantastic ad.

Absolutely.

Yeah, it's probably...

Yes, cracking ads, that one.

That was...

You're right, David.

Honda could learn a thing or two from that commercial.

Question number five.

And the best thing about that commercial, too,

is that it showed all their history of cars.

It didn't just show them their modern cars.

It showed their rally pedigree.

It showed what their oldest stuff.

It was a great ad.

Question number five.

What vehicle featured in the commercial

with the song The Message by Grandmaster Flash

and the Furious Five?

Can you sing a few bars for us, Matthew?

Yeah.

Oh, geez.

Yeah.

Okay, so to our listeners who are going to cringe severely at this,

don't push me because I'm close to...

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

That's all I will say.

I'm not going to say anything more.

Rob, you buzzed in?

You buzzed in?

I can't remember it.

Can't remember it, Scotty?

Does he, in the ad, sing it?

He does.

In the car while driving.

He does, yeah.

And Grandmaster, I'll give you a hint.

So the character that's driving this said vehicle,

so this is two points, this question too, by the way,

is singing it.

And then the camera pans and Grandmaster Flash

and the Furious Five,

or one member of the Furious Five are wrapping along with him.

Yeah.

And he back, yeah.

And then he pulls up to his house and he's singing it.

And the wife's just like,

you forgot the eggs or the milk or something.

He's like, ah.

So then he just keeps on singing as he goes back.

Scot.

Is it like a Hyundai Santa Fe?

Incorrect.

You're not far off, though.

I'll give you that.

David Prince, no idea.

Just think of your larger cars like Santa Fe's.

I want to go Kia Rio or something.

I'll give you a point.

I'll give you one point, Rob.

For Kia.

It's Kia.

Yeah, it is Kia.

Carnival.

Incorrect.

It is not the Carnival.

So I think you've said Kia Rio.

Scotty, you said the Santa Fe.

David, you said Carnival.

It was the Kia Sportage.

Sportage.

Sportuggy for the Sportuggy.

Sportuggy.

Question number six.

What feature?

What vehicle featured in the commercial?

The song?

I can never say this word.

Orinoco Flow by Enya.

Some sort of topic car.

Of course.

It'll be something luxurious.

It's like, it is kind of, it is what the model they featured was the top of the range.

Luxurious model.

The range.

In the, in the, in the ad.

Yeah.

I know the song.

You know, yeah, I just can't link them to the cars.

Obviously it doesn't work too well.

The market is not very good.

We've heard too many more songs over the years.

Haven't we wrong?

There's been too many.

I think we have just one too many.

You guys all out?

Yeah, all out.

Scotty, you're out?

Yeah.

That was my Santa Fe, the previous gen.

That was my guess for the last question.

Yeah, it was your guess for the last one.

So that the kids were fighting outside after their soccer game, like punching on.

We're not punching on, but like yelling at each other severely.

That's right.

And then she was like, just get in the car.

And they get in the car.

And then like the, the piece of moment in science is when the song starts playing

like that they try to tranquil themselves.

And that's, that's when it happens.

Question number seven.

One of my all time favorite ads is one.

What vehicle featured in the commercial where the song love?

Don't let me go by David get up versus the egg featured.

I think early to early to mid 2000 dish is this one.

It was a pretty cool ad.

I'm sick of the song.

Love.

Don't let me go.

I should have just just played this.

You need to sample the songs.

I need to sample the song.

I should, I should have done that.

I'm going to have a guess.

I'm going to guess it's a Ford.

It is not a Ford.

Oh, I thought 2000s.

I thought that was your four pack.

It is my wheelhouse, but it's, it's supposing.

I want to go Rob.

I want to go Volvo.

Volvo.

You're getting, you're getting a lot warmer.

It's in, it isn't a Europe is a European car, but it's not,

it's not Scandinavian, but that's incorrect.

David Gweres from that way.

Wasn't he up north?

He is.

Yeah.

He's, he's from that.

Where's David.

I'll give you a hint.

You guys want to hit?

I'll bring you all back in if you, if you want to hit David.

Get it is French.

So, so, and that should be a hit because the car is French.

Oh, oh, there you go.

It's not Renault.

It's incorrect.

David Rob.

David's David got in there first.

Citroen.

Citroen is correct for one point.

What's the model?

I'll go.

What was that one that transformed?

That's the ad I'm talking about.

That's C4.

C4 is correct.

Well done.

So, do you guys remember the robot ad?

Like the kind of transformed and it just like to start skiing on

the snow and stuff.

That's, that's, that's the, I love that ad.

Another one of my favorite ads coming up.

What vehicle featured the commercial with a song Heaven is a

Place on Earth by Raja Mustak featured.

Not Belinda Carlisle.

No.

Yeah.

Well, they know Belinda Carlisle's version.

So it's a quite a famous Indian, Indian song.

Oh, is it really something new ad?

No, it's similar time.

If not a little bit earlier than, than, than the Citroen ad

early, like early 2000s or late 90s.

Great ad.

Yeah.

The company, I think Reed did this ad with, with the later

version of the car.

It's, it's an iconic car commercial.

Okay.

It's another French car.

Scott.

Is it Renault this time?

It's not Renault this time.

Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob.

Here you go.

Yeah.

It is correct.

Persho for one point, Rob, for another point.

Do you guys know the model?

I don't know.

I'll just go 307.

No, incorrect.

David.

I'll go 406.

Incorrect.

Scotty for a model.

Got nothing.

Those are the two that I was thinking of.

The 206, the Elephanad.

When you get the Elephanad, the Hindustan ambassador.

Oh.

Yeah.

It's the, the ad's called the Sculpta where you drive,

you drive the ambassador and just crushes it.

And then he makes his car look like a 206.

Question number nine.

Two to go, gentlemen.

Score check.

I'll give you guys a score check.

Scotty on two, Rob on two, David on five so far.

So still anyone's game.

There's still anyone's game, gentlemen.

Question number nine.

What vehicles, vehicles as you can't featured in the commercial,

the song Ready to Go by Republica?

Got.

Is that Ford?

Incorrect.

It was not Ford.

Don't know the song.

Don't can't think of the ad.

What decade?

2000s.

Okay.

All right.

Rob.

Mitsubishi.

Incorrect.

David.

Another guess.

What did you guess, Scotty?

Ford.

Holden.

It is Holden for one point.

The Holden range.

They had that.

The Holden range was ready to go.

That's when their slogan was something go.

They had something in there.

In their slogan with that.

Go with Holden or something.

I think it was their slogan.

So question number 10.

What vehicle featured in the commercial, so vehicle?

It's worth two points of question.

Where the song Super Freak by Rick James played?

Oh, yeah.

You should all know that one.

I'm not going to be Rick James.

You can see it for us if you like.

I'd rather not, Scotty.

That might jolt our memory.

Will it, Rob?

Freaky.

What sort of car was it?

A picture of a small car.

It is a small car.

I'll give you a hint.

It is a small car.

I'm just going to put it there.

Rob.

Was it a Holden Berina?

Absolutely, Rob.

Well done.

Good work.

Holden Berina.

It was a cartoon ad where the girl was super freaky driving a Holden Berina.

Yeah, the hair.

Yeah, that's correct.

Yep, well done.

Well done.

That's the end of the car quiz.

I'm going to list of other songs that are written down here that have been featured in ads.

None of them came up, so.

Well, you're going to have to use that for next week, David Prince.

You can do the quiz next week.

You're on.

The first one came up.

It came straight to that one.

Yeah, I like it.

I was like, yes.

That is one of my all time favorites as a cracking ad.

Scotty on two, Rob on four.

And tonight's winner on a grand total of six is Mr. David Prince.

Well done.

I thought that mixed it up a little bit with some music from Kara as I think.

It was good.

Hard.

It was harder than last week, I think.

Yeah.

Who won last week?

It was Scotty won last week.

Yeah, I didn't.

He did.

Did I?

Yeah, you won in the tiebreaker.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

My tiebreaker.

We had about 15 questions though.

Yeah, we did.

Yeah.

That was a tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie tie breaker.

Tiebreaker.

Absolutely.

I can't wait for some of that.

I think that's a podcast, gentlemen.

Yes, I think so.

That was a good discussion, good fun tonight, Jens.

David's wisdom.

If you can, if you can hold onto your head while all those around,

you are losing theirs.

You'll be the tallest person in the crowd.

Oh, nice one.

Really nice.

Yeah, I liked that.

That's some good wisdom.

Rob's doing it whatever you need.

He's doing it firefighting, electrical,

neighbour heating, council punching on with,

sandblasting.

Bedroom Renault.

Bedroom Renault is at the moment.

Yep.

Here's your man, Rob's doing it.

Sorry, what's Renault's?

What's that on his neck?

I'm doing my bedroom up.

So I'm putting a feature wall in,

sort of along those deck.

Oh, I thought of Renault.

I thought it was all about a Renault.

Not a Renault.

A car Renault.

It's not a Renault.

He's been there done that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it didn't end well.

No.

Scotty's golf tip of the week.

Mine's more of a courtesy thing.

When you're out there playing golf,

if you make any of those divots and things,

you know, there's always a sand bucket

that you take with you.

Please fill those with sand.

And any ball marks,

the dents that will happen

when your ball lands on the green,

just use your divot repairer

and go in there and fix it.

Just be courtesy to other people.

You know, courteous would be nice.

Yeah.

Lovely.

That's a great tip.

And for the groundskeepers, too.

I'm upset.

I think there's something in that for us.

Absolutely.

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