{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Jay Gillotti Part 3","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/jay-gillotti-part-3","audioUrl":"https://www.buzzsprout.com/2134004/episodes/19179774-jay-gillotti-part-3.mp3","description":"Send us Fan MailJay Gillotti has written very well know books such as Gulf 917 and Porsche Decades.&nbsp; This year a new book he is writing is coming out about the Porsche 936.&nbsp; He has also written articles for 000, Panorama, Forza, Vintage Motorsports, International Motor Racing Research Center, Collier AutoMedia and Wayne Carini's The Chase.&nbsp; He was also contributed to other automotive books like A French Kiss with Death, 1982 and Daring Drivers, Deadly Tracks.&nbsp; He has helped out at events like Pebble Beach Concours D'Elegance and moderated many Porsche Events people like Brian Redman, John Horsman, Vic Elford, Derek Bell, Hurley Haywood among others.&nbsp;In this episode we talk about:&nbsp;-The 917 splitting in half.-Ferdinand Piech.-Porsche and Gruppe B.&nbsp;-Porsche deciding to race or not, was it financial or what?&nbsp;-Politics in racing with Porsche.Send questions and suggestions to&nbsp; porschepatterpod@gmail.com https://www.circuitsixfour.com/https://www.instagram.com/circuit6four/https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox"},"annotations":[{"startTime":70.46,"endTime":79.46,"type":"car","title":"Porsche Taycan","url":"/cars/porsche/taycan","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/2024_Porsche_Taycan_%2880831%29.jpg","quote":"“Not a SUV. 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Even then, teams often feel the tweaks don’t perfectly match their car."}},{"startTime":1380.5,"endTime":1392.2,"type":"concept","title":"boost limit","url":"/glossary/boost-limit","quote":"In the case of the Indy 500 in 1980, when USAC gave them an unfavorable ruling on boost, you know, the boost limit, Porsche just said, well, fine, well, we just won't come.","canonicalId":"concept:boost-limit","priority":0.45,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"A boost limit is a restriction on how much pressure a turbocharged engine is allowed to run. In practice, it’s enforced by rules that cap turbo boost (often via engine control limits or hardware restrictions) to control power output. When a series changes or applies a boost limit, teams may need to re-engineer their cars to comply."}},{"startTime":1380.5,"endTime":1392.2,"type":"company","title":"USAC","url":"/glossary/usac","quote":"In the case of the Indy 500 in 1980, when USAC gave them an unfavorable ruling on boost, you know, the boost limit, Porsche just said, well, fine, well, we just won't come.","canonicalId":"company:usac","priority":0.2,"confidence":0.75,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"USAC (United States Auto Club) was the sanctioning body for IndyCar-era racing and the Indianapolis 500 in the period referenced. In the segment, USAC issues an unfavorable ruling on turbo boost, which affects Porsche’s decision about whether to enter. Sanctioning-body rulings like this can change the technical direction teams must take."}}],"speakers":[{"id":"s1","name":"Bracken Helmes","role":"host"}],"transcripts":[{"url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/jay-gillotti-part-3/transcript.vtt","type":"text/vtt"}]}