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Tim Mahaffey, president of the Lone Star Jeep Club, free beginners wheeling course.
Alright, Okay, free.
Did you hear that it's free?
No charge, no charge.
But you're going to have to pay some money to put gas in the tank to get there.
Well, just saying, jeff has a look at the upcoming racing events and that pretty much starts this weekend, does it not?
Yeah, yeah, a lot of stuff going on Also just ahead on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
We've got some other goodies we're going to throw in there, including this week's news headlines Howdy, along with Mike out of this World.
Mars.
We always need more.
Jeff Zekin, I'm Don Armstrong, so glad that you could join us on this Saturday.
It is cold, it is breezy here in the Houston Texas area.
We've already received our high temperature for the day.
I think it was about 55 at midnight and it's continuing to drop as the day progresses.
I got about 5.30
and it was about 50 degrees and it was dropping ever since.
Yeah, so, burr, there's that.
Alright, I didn't want to remind you that I said this in our tease that had lunch with Gary Garnett down at Kiehl's and Wheels, and the 28th annual Kiehl's and Wheels Car and In the Water Boat Show returns to the Lakewood Yacht Club in Seabrook, texas, may 4th and 5th, don.
Why are you talking about that now?
Well, because they are, things are changing down there and they're going to be bringing in different things, and this year I'm told, kind of under the cloak, that it is going to be a Resto Mod highlighted show, resto Mods, okay, and they're getting some Resto Modders in with their clever designs and paint jobs.
Is there such a thing as a Resto Mod boat?
That's a good question.
We'll have to ask.
We're going to talk to him later on.
Alright, so we got that coming up, okay, so let's get now to our guest this morning is Tim Mahaffey, and Tim is with the Lone Star Jeep Club.
Tim, good morning.
Good morning gentlemen.
Thank you for having us.
Well, thank you very much.
I understand your secretary of the club, christine Voida, is with us as well.
Hello, yes, hi, it's good to have you guys with us.
Thank you, is it cold up there?
Yes it's about 34, feels like 23.
There you go.
So we've got our weather report from North Texas.
I remember when I was 23.
Yeah, I don't remember that at all I wish I could say Lone Star Jeep Club.
tell us about that, tim.
Let's talk about the history of the Lone Star Jeep Club.
How far does it go back?
Yeah, the Jeep Club goes back to 1997.
So over 25 years we've been around.
We're a nonprofit registered organization in Texas and we're a Jeep only club and we have members that are in Dallas, Houston, we had some in New Mexico, Missouri and Arkansas.
So we kind of span the, you know, the Texas area and surrounding states you like.
Like this car show you span the globe, Mm hmm.
We'd love to span the globe.
I don't know if you'd want all those members however, so let me ask you something, yeah.
So when I think of Jeep, I always think of Wranglers.
Do you allow things like wagon ears in there?
We do, we do yes.
Do you have any wood-sided vinyl on any of the Jeep wagon ears in there?
No, no, we don't.
We may put some duct tape on it once in a while, depending on what happens on the crowd.
That's gotta be the right color duct tape.
Yeah.
What a great idea.
Yeah, we could have some wood Wood-paneling duct tape yeah, wood-paneling duct tape.
What do you think?
Try to match it up.
That's a great idea.
That's a great idea.
That's a great idea.
You can keep it for free.
Yeah, All right.
So let's talk about this event that you've got coming.
Well, first of all, do you guys do a lot of events?
I mean like a once a month thing, besides meetings and minutes and that kind of stuff.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about going out and having fun.
We are known as a wheeling club in North Texas Okay.
So let me ask you and I'm sorry, I'm a car guy, I have owned a Jeep in the past at one point in my life what is a wheeling club?
What does wheeling mean?
We get out and we go.
Wheeling means off-roading.
Off-roading we go out.
Off-roading.
We call them wheeling events or runs, Not to be confused with a 10K.
But we actually drive our Jeeps off-roading.
We call them runs and wheeling events.
And yes, we have multiple events at least once a month getting out, putting your Jeep in full-wheel drive and hitting the trail and having a good time with everybody in the club.
So is it an event within an event?
So you get, say, 20, 30, 40 Jeeps and you drive out to a location and then at that location you do your wheeling.
So it's more of a double driving there and then driving the event.
Yeah, depending on where the location is, because some of the places we go and like in Barnwell, which is in Gilmore, texas, it's about three and a half hours from the Dallas area, so oftentimes we'll meet somewhere and then we'll travel out together, just in case something happens on the road while you're on the way.
Gotcha.
I mean, when you put on these events three and a half hours away to me, that would be traveling out there on a Friday night, so you'd have all day Saturday, or Saturday to Sunday.
Do you do that frequently?
Yes, we do.
That's, good yeah.
You know, we, for us car guys, we've got an event coming up called the Hot Rod Tour of Texas and it's a three day event Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
We start off on Thursday night, all meeting up down in Victoria and then traveling up toward you and wind up up in North Texas on Sunday and we just have such a great time and it's just a great time being in a long row of cars and in some cities they welcome you through and have motorcycle escorts and all that sort of stuff and I would imagine it's kind of the same thing.
I mean, you get 40 jeeps going down the road together.
People go, hey, look at that.
People at Christine can talk to that too.
People do stop and look, but I don't think we've ever had a police escort.
For some reason they were following us one time.
Escort in reverse.
Yeah, that's it.
Well, all you need to do is just call a couple of those little small towns where you know they've got one or two police officers working whenever you're going to roll through and just say, hey, heads up, want to let you guys know we're going to go through town if you want to get it getting out.
That is a terrific idea.
I think we're going to do that, that's a great idea.
Full of ideas today, I mean something Full of something, yeah.
Exactly, Christine.
Tell me about yourself and your involvement with the Lone Star Jeep Club.
So I am a car girl at heart.
I've been in the car business for 31 years and I got into jeeping after breast cancer.
I bought my first Jeep and I actually wheel with them just as hard as they do.
So I will go on the really challenging trails just as much as the guys.
I am one of two females in the club that typically drive on trails.
I've gone as far out as Kingman, arizona, to wheel Moab up to Missouri, and I do all the locals with them.
So over time I've built out my Jeep so I run on 37s with a lift.
I'm only five foot four so it is a big climb for me to get in because my tires are waist high.
Wow, I can do just as much as they can and they welcome me with open arms through the time period.
So I've been on the board now three years with them.
So sounds like they're afraid of you.
No, I don't think they're afraid, but I actually bought a second Jeep yesterday for my daily driver.
I bought the 4xE.
Do you all do any events like cruise ins or drive ins that just you know?
You hang out in a parking lot rather than going on a wheelie.
Not typically.
We have done a couple.
Yeah, typically we're more about getting on the trails.
Well, I mean, there's something to be said for that.
I like that.
I will tell you that my very short experience was actually sponsored by Jeep and I think that Mars, I think that you went on that trip as well we went.
Where did we go?
Some way up in the mountains somewhere.
Where was that?
It wasn't going to Moab, where you had no where you had the brakes lock up on the thing and slid down the hill.
Oh, that was that that was Tuesday.
No, no there was one in Utah, but that doesn't seem like that was the right place.
No, no, it was either in Colorado, I don't remember, but lots of mountains and we were all in Jeep Wranglers and the what was that Wasn't the Jeep Liberty was the compass, maybe it was the compass, I don't remember, but they took us up to the top of a mountain.
There was no road up there, it was a trail up there and it got really tight when you got up to the top of the mountain and you didn't dare look down to the side because you had a freak out.
Yeah, not for me.
And you know, at some points along that trail, on the way up there, we had to have spotters so we wouldn't venture off of where we needed to be.
So have you done things like that?
Yes, we did top of the world out in Moab, where they guide you all the way to the end so you can get photos of looking like you're going to drive off Great.
Yeah, we did Christmas.
Mountain at Big Bend.
I've heard of that.
And Hell's Gate out in Moab as well.
Yeah, hell's Gate, so yeah.
When you go on these adventures.
I mean, everybody drives their Jeep there.
Some people trailer.
Some people trailer.
Yeah, there's a couple of a couple of members that have trailers and you know they're running 42s and you know really off-roaders.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I remember I think it was down at Woody's Waterfront Car Show that I saw a couple of Jeeps down there and if they had a license plate they had to steal it from somewhere because this thing did not look like it was going to be, you know, street legal by any stretch of the imagination and, like you say, a couple of them trailer them.
Those are the really serious guys that have done some serious suspension work.
Not that a regular Jeep Wrangler needs suspension work for most of us, but if you get really serious about it you really want to have some more articulation in the suspension and maybe some extra horsepower or different gearing and that sort of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, members that are really into that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So when we wheel we have three groups easy, medium and harm.
Harm is the hard group.
So those are the, those are the folks that that hit the really really difficult obstacles.
So not for the novice.
Not for the novice.
No, not for the novice.
Well, I've seen some shows on television where these guys that you're talking about, that I mean they get into a gully where I mean I didn't know a suspension could travel that far side to side and you know, I mean almost on their sides trying to get up this well challenge so to say, the body and the frame flex too.
I mean, that's all part of it, I guess it's.
It's, yeah, it gets really serious and it's way, way out of my league.
I mean, put me on a drag strip, Okay, I got that, but to do that, to do that, I mean it takes some real talent.
So where did you gain your talent?
Just by doing those kinds of things over and over.
Yeah, experience, getting out as much as we can to go wheel, just this learning over experience, learning how your rig, you know, reacts to how you drive it on the trail, learning about your new equipment, what lines to take.
And Christine underestimated herself.
She's one of the best people I've ever seen actually to find a line to get over an obstacle and is an expert driver out on the trails.
So she's, she's one of the best at that.
But it's just over experience.
And one of the I know we wanted to talk about the, the beginning wheelers school class that we have come up.
One of the things there is, you know, a lot of people go out and see the commercials right, see Jeeps driving through snow, driving through mud, and they get it.
And we sometimes refer to them like mall crawlers or payment princesses, but these people don't understand I've been referred to that as like that before.
Yeah, okay, yep, so, but probably not in a Jeep.
I'm, I'm as my guess.
No, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, it's, yeah, it's another show, yeah it's another show that was a club actually.
Never mind, never mind, go ahead.
No.
So you know people are going like they want to go.
Do that right.
Not not everyone.
Some of them like it as as a daily driver, but there's.
There's some things to do to prepare before you get onto the trail, like letting air out of your tires, explaining why you need to let air out of your tires.
What kind of tires do you need?
What's the difference between all terrain and mud terrain?
What, what?
What tire manufacturer do you want to go with?
Do light bars help with traction or not?
You know people, you know, have all these questions and so we go over.
You know how to even engage into full wheel drive.
People don't even know how to put it down into four high.
Well, four high is easy, but not down into four low, disconnecting your your sway bar.
So you do have that articulation when you're out on the trail.
And if someone has lockers, how and when to use those lockers on the trail.
Right, we had cases where some folks had the lockers on the trail entirely and you actually lose some control of your Jeep when you have your lockers on full time and you know.
So we, we teach people how and when to use your lockers and even things like how to remove your hard top, what to eat, what to take with you on the trail to eat to keep your energy level, their concentration, up, and things like hydration that you need to worry about.
And then navigation, too how to navigate your way around the park.
So we go over all those things in our free beginners wheeling class that were started up this year Just to get people prepared and interested into the community.
I think the Jeep that I had was about a 1980.
I bought it off the showroom floor and it had the lockers that you had to get out of the Jeep and then go and lock them actually at the hubs, the front hubs yeah.
And that was a pain.
Now it's all by push button.
I mean, you know, we don't have to even throw things in gear or anything like that.
I mean it's all just push the button with these new Jeeps.
Well, unless you upgrade to a different axles so the one ton axles you still have to get out and lock the hubs yourself.
The one ton?
Yeah, there's, no, there's no push button for that, Like the the 60s in the front right, and so you still have to get out and block your hubs.
Well, one thing that that you didn't mention, and I saw this on a car show called the Holden Brothers and they were beefing up an old scout.
Nope, take that back.
It was a actual FG.
No, it was a blazer from, I guess, the 70s that's what it looked like and they taken the top off of it.
They did extensive amount of suspension work on it, but they actually put bead locks on these tires that were $700 a piece.
Wow, I mean, talk about some knobbies, but I didn't know about bead locks on tires like that.
They said oh yeah, well, you know, we're going to run it at five pounds of pressure when we get out there and and we try to go up the side of a hill.
I don't think that most people realize what a bead lock is, or why would you run five pounds of pressure in your tires.
Exactly.
A lot of people don't know.
And a lot of people don't know.
In the state of Texas it's actually illegal to run bead locks on the highway.
They're really for intended for off-road use only.
So the ones we see on a Jeep that are running the highway, those are kind of just decorations, the facade.
What does say some people push the envelope a?
little bit.
Well, they're traveling to a destination, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay Well the other thing is, too, they make some what appear to be beadlocks but they're not.
True beadlocks, yeah, faux beadlocks, yeah, and and Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Which now they run bead grips.
Beed rips.
Yeah, they now have bead grips which work very similar, and you can, I can go down to 10 pounds of pressure.
They look more like steel wheels but they have a.
They have the same technology interesting up.
So on the wheeling side of it, when you're out there and and you're doing your climbs and your, your organization, is there a lot of damage to those jeeps?
Because I'd be afraid to dent something or roll it over or Just ruin it trail rash.
Trail rash, I do.
Trail rash, yeah, trail rash.
Um, but I mean I do have some.
I have a gash in my fender.
It's been there for a couple years.
So that's like a badge of honor.
To me it is yes, and I don't plan on changing it till I destroy the fender.
I have a broken tail light.
I have a set of extras of tail lights so you trailer, your business are coming.
No, I drive mine.
It was my daily driver until about uh april last year.
So that's where you get to pushing the limits on some things, right yeah?
yeah, we've had.
We've had busted control arms.
I broke my axle once, um what else?
I ripped my fender off.
We have flat tires.
We have, you know, the wheels will, tires will actually come out of the bead locks.
On the trail, um, I don't think we've had anybody roll over yet, but we've seen rollovers, um, on the trail itself.
So when you've got something that like, for instance, a broken axle, how do you handle that?
How do you get it back home?
Somebody brings a trailer.
Yeah, somebody bought a trailer in my case I didn't have one, so it was in hot springs, arkansas, and it was going to be close to $3,000 to flat tow it back.
And someone suggested just go to u-haul, rent a truck and a trailer and then take it back, which costs like 250 bucks.
So that's what I did and they On, and then it was pushed pull drag to get me off of the trail.
So it was actually on rubicon ridge, which is a badge of honor trail up there right at the beginning, and it took forever to get me off of that trail.
So, um, but, yeah, you, that's what you do, you help each other out, right, that's why you don't go out alone.
And, um, you, you help your, your fellow jeeper on the trail and off the trail, right, that's part of the jeep community itself.
Yeah, trail rash, I like it.
Well, listen, guys, it's great to talk to you.
It's the free beginners wheeling course Sponsored by collin county off-road and it's going to be up in mckinney next weekend.
Is that correct?
Next weekend.
If you're in the area, um, feel free to stop by.
It is free.
We'll probably spring for some refreshments as it gets closer, so let they have people come out and learn how to wheel and learn about the club and meet one of our sponsors Uh, a great sponsor calling county off-road.
Um, it's been really, really good so very nice and, um, how about a website for you guys?
Or uh, somehow to get a hold of you.
Yep um wwwlsjcorg.
We're a nonprofit, so l l s jc Lone.
Star Jeep Club.
Duh, yeah, yeah, well, I'm a little slow, it's a little early on a saturday morning.
Uh well, listen.
Uh, tam and christine, we sure thank you very much for joining us this morning.
It's been a great conversation.
Let's stay in touch and, uh, give us an update on how things go next weekend.
Absolutely.
Yeah, we'll definitely do.
We'll see you some pictures and thanks for having us again.
Thank you, christine, take care, you bet.
Thank you, take care, bye, bye.
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Jeffrey Yep, okay, you want to do the racing?
You want to go to the ice?
Let's do the racing, okay?
Well, racing is happening this month, starting right now.
Last night we had the Craftsman Truck Series Racing.
A young man by the name of Nick Sanchez won the truck race and right after that they were running the ARCA.
Now there's a threat of rain for the weekend for the 500.
So they're trying to get as much things as done as possible and today you've got the Xfinity race at the Xfinity United Rattles 300 at 4 pm.
Last night was the truck race.
If it doesn't rain out, if it doesn't rain out, but they're trying to squeeze it on in, they're moving up the schedule, as they say, the schedule.
The schedule and tomorrow is the big event, which is the Daytona 500, february 18th.
Coverage starts at 2.30
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I don't know if it's on at FS1 or Fox, but is on your local Fox station.
There are tickets available.
So, mike, if you want to go, you can jet out right now and be there, and then we've got some things coming up with Angel later on and her racing, so we've got that coming up, no problem.
They're going to check out the crawfish and the alligator.
Crawfish and alligators.
And then we got NHRE coming up and you got Formula One with their debacle and all kinds of strange stuff there.
All right.
Well, let's do ice racing.
Let's do ice racing.
That was a clever call on your part.
Well, I was looking up stuff to kind of do some features and it's winter time.
I was cold, got the chill and here we go.
You got the chill, Lord, I got the chill, that's right.
So ice racing just like trying to walk on an icy sidewalk in stilettos.
Ice racing comes with a unique set of challenges.
Ice racing cars aren't your typical run-of-the-mill sedans.
These are specially modified masterpieces.
At the heart lies the tires.
Cars' tires are studded for a firm grip on icy surfaces, because grip is the survival.
Each tire hosts hundreds of metal studs ready to cut into the ice.
Suspension mods keep the car level and in control, because that's very important to have your suspension just right on that ice.
Lower center of gravity, wide track width, increased wheel bases are the best way to go.
Another part of this getting it all set up is weight.
Those are cars that I don't even recognize.
Well, they're built for ice racing Ice racing cars.
One another is the weight.
So too much in the front and you plow into the ice, too much in the back and you spin out.
It's a delicate balancing act how you set your vehicle up, but you know these guys have nothing to do in the wintertime, so this is perfect for them.
Well, this is what they do in the winter.
Yeah, exactly, this is a process.
So in the fall, they get the cars ready.
Yeah, I would imagine this is probably a Well, you're All your thing.
You're a Michigander.
You should know this.
I never did ice racing.
Yeah, I never did that.
I was too cold.
Then there's the engine.
You got turbos.
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You got to look at the exhaust.
Those are allowed.
All the modifications to an engine are allowed, depending on what class and what you're racing on, be it a lake or just a field of ice.
Making a car into ice racing a machine requires more than just mechanical ability, Mike.
It requires skill, daring and above all, it requires a willingness to brave the elements.
So oh, yeah, you're going to talk now.
You're going to talk now.
So one of our viewers said that's where ice racing is, where drifting got started, right?
Well, ice racing originally started, I think, over in Europe because of the these like Austria, and things of that nature.
So, brace yourself.
You're all geared up in your igloo racing vehicle.
Are you ready to go racing?
Well, not quite yet.
First, check the temperatures.
Cars, like humans, appreciate letting the engine run until the idle reaches the optimum temperature.
Checking all the fluids, mike oil, coolant, brake fluid.
These liquids should be winter-friendly versions to brave the cold.
So you got to make sure your car's prepped or you're not going to have a good event in racing.
Yeah, finally, the driver.
Well, if you're equipped to withstand the cold, after all, you can't expect to be racing a car and shivering like a chihuahua.
So it's a game of subtle and goldilocks principles.
In other words, not too much, not too little, but just right.
Everything goes for braking on ice.
Steady, slow and steady wins the race.
The best part, mike, like you said, is the drifting and the grip.
So brace yourself, let's go for a race.
There's lots of drinking going on, I'm sure Eggnog Hot toddies Some of that liquid to help keep you warm and liquid, you know, winter-friendly.
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Tim Mahaffey from the Lone Star Jeep Club shares insights into the vibrant off-roading culture in Texas, detailing the club's history, events, and community spirit. The discussion highlights their free beginners wheeling course aimed at educating new Jeep owners on off-roading techniques and safety. Christine Voida, a passionate member, shares her journey into jeeping and the challenges of navigating tough trails. The episode also touches on ice racing, discussing vehicle modifications and the unique skills required to race on ice, making for an engaging exploration of automotive adventure.
Gear up for a wild ride with Tim Mahaffey, president of the Lone Star Jeep Club, and Club Secretary Christine Voyda, as we navigate the thrilling terrain of Texas off-roading. This episode is your all-access pass to the club's bustling calendar of events, dishing out everything from a free beginner's wheeling course to the all-inclusive community vibe that embraces Jeep lovers of all stripes. Revel in the tales of camaraderie and the nitty-gritty of convoying with a fleet of Jeeps, eager to tackle the rugged backcountry. Whether you're a Wrangler fanatic or a vintage Wagoneer aficionado, get ready to rev up your passion for adventure under the wide Texas sky.
Join us as we shift into the heart of off-roading culture, where casual cruise-ins give way to adrenaline-pumping trail rides. Listen as we uncover the transformative journey from novice to seasoned off-roader, with insights on how to beef up your Jeep for the most extreme escapades. We'll explore the varying challenges off-roaders face and the solidarity found within the Jeep community.
In our feature segment, for those with a need for speed on slick surfaces, Jeff Dziekan takes a look at a cold rush of excitement, detailing the modifications necessary for mastering the art of ice racing.
Fire up your engines—it's time to hit play and join the off-road odyssey.
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