North Wilkesboro is a famous NASCAR race track in North Carolina. The hosts are saying the crowd and energy there are especially great when the series comes back.
Late model races are a type of stock-car racing that happens at short tracks. Here, they’re talking about the Friday events before the main races on Saturday and Sunday.
A speeding penalty means a driver went faster than they were allowed during a slow-down period. In NASCAR that usually costs you position, so you end up farther back in the field.
In NASCAR, a “short track package” is the team’s setup plan for short tracks. It’s how they adjust the car so it drives well in tight turns and slower corners.
“Cup cars” are the main cars used in NASCAR’s top series. Teams still tune and set them up differently for each track to get the best handling and speed.
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team goes
“Team goes” here is shorthand for whether the racing team can still execute at a high level—car preparation, strategy, and adjustments during the race. In NASCAR, that execution is what turns a driver’s talent into consistent results.
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Loudoun
Loudoun is another NASCAR race track. The speaker is saying the team might do better there because the car seems to match up well to certain track types.
Phoenix is a NASCAR race track. The speaker is pointing out that some teams tend to be strong there, and that past results can hint at future performance.
A “mile and a half” track is a longer NASCAR track. Cars often need different setup and strategy there than on shorter tracks, so a team can struggle even if they look great elsewhere.
An oval race is on a track shaped like an oval. Cars usually keep going fast for long stretches, and getting near the front helps because it can be tough to pass.
A road course is a track with lots of corners and braking. Drivers who are good at road courses often bring skills that help in other types of racing too.
“Racing IQ” means how smart a driver is at racing. It’s about understanding what’s happening on track and making the right calls so they can drive better and faster, not just going fast.
Oval racing is racing on oval-shaped tracks, where you mostly drive in big, continuous turns. The way you drive and set up the car is different from road courses because the tires and grip are stressed in a more constant way.
Short tracks are smaller NASCAR ovals with tighter turns and more frequent changes in speed. That makes driving feel more technical, kind of like road racing, compared with the long, steady flow of bigger tracks.
“Road race technique” is how drivers handle road courses—things like braking, turning in, and managing grip through different kinds of corners. The point here is that short tracks can require some of the same kind of careful driving.
“Super speedways” are the biggest NASCAR ovals where speeds stay high for long periods. The driving and car setup are more about staying stable at speed than about lots of quick braking and turning.
A diffuser is a shape under the race car that helps the air move in a way that pushes the car down onto the track. A “simple diffuser” means a particular, specific version of that underbody shape.
A “low downforce package” is the car’s aerodynamic setup meant to make the car generate less downward force. That can make the car feel different in turns because it has less grip from the aero pushing it to the track.
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arrow type
This sounds like a reference to the shape/design of an aerodynamic part from the previous rules package. Different shapes can change how air flows under and around the car, which changes grip.
A pit stall is the exact parking spot on the pit road where a race team pulls in. It’s like a designated bay so the crew can work quickly and in the right place.
A two-tire stop means the team only changes two tires during the pit stop. It can be faster than changing all four, but the car may handle a little differently afterward.
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two-tire pit strategy and pit-road traffic
They talk about how choosing a two-tire pit stop can get complicated when other cars are also coming in. If the timing and spacing aren’t right, it can lead to trouble on pit road.
Practice format is how the race organizers set up practice—like how long it is and how they group cars. That can change how much traffic teams deal with while testing.
They talk about how giving teams more time to practice and more tires can make the weekend better for everyone. More running means more chances to try things and more racing action for fans and TV.
A “set of tires” is just a fresh batch of racing tires. If teams get more sets, they can drive longer and try different car changes without burning through their tires too quickly.
“Practice time” is when teams and drivers run laps before the race. It helps them learn how the car feels and try changes so they’re better prepared when it counts.
“Race tune” means adjusting the car’s setup during the race weekend, often with less time to test. The point is: with more practice, teams can figure things out earlier instead of trying to fix it once the racing starts.
“Brickyard” is a nickname for the famous Indianapolis race track. It’s the kind of place where how you position your car and work with other cars matters a lot.
Term
plays possum
It’s basically a “wait and then strike” move. The driver looks like they’re not doing much, but they’re actually setting up the timing so other cars end up in the wrong spot.
Gamesmanship means using clever tactics to get an advantage. It’s like outsmarting the other driver with positioning and timing rather than just driving faster.
Rick Mears is a legendary IndyCar driver closely associated with the Indianapolis 500, part of the famous Mears racing family. In this segment, Kevin Harvick references him as a childhood inspiration and a benchmark for success at the Brickyard.
“Indy cars” refers to open-wheel race cars in the IndyCar series, built for high-speed road courses and oval racing. They’re distinct from NASCAR stock cars in aerodynamics, tire sizes, and race strategy.
“Victory lane” is the spot at the track where the winner celebrates right after the race. When someone says they want to go to victory lane, they mean they want to win.
Restarts are when the race starts again after a caution. They’re important because the cars are bunched up and it’s often the best time to move forward or get stuck behind someone.
Track position just means where you are on the race track compared to other cars. In many races, especially when passing is hard, being in front makes it much easier to stay in control and finish near the front.
Qualifying well means setting a fast lap time in the official qualifying session to secure a strong starting position for the race. On tracks where passing is difficult, qualifying performance can strongly influence your chances of winning.
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N. Wilkesboro
North Wilkesboro Speedway is a famous NASCAR track in North Carolina. It’s the kind of track where the pit area and track layout can make driving and pit stops more difficult.
Pit lane is the special lane next to the track where race teams pull in to work on the car during a stop. It’s tight and tricky to enter and leave safely, so drivers and teams have to be very precise.
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IRP
IRP is a racing track the speaker really likes. They’re talking about it as a place that matters for drivers early in their careers.
The “O’Reilly series” is a racing series that’s associated with O’Reilly Auto Parts as the sponsor. The speaker is saying they don’t like that series as much as IRP.
They talk about how short tracks help drivers learn and improve, especially how to find the best line around the track. The idea is that those skills carry over when bigger races come around.
Short track racing is NASCAR racing on smaller tracks with tighter turns. Since cars are closer together, it’s easier for small mistakes or setup tweaks to change who wins.
A “groove” is the best path around the track that lets a driver go faster with better grip. As the track changes during the race, the best groove can move.
“Cup guys” means the top-level NASCAR drivers in the main Cup Series. It’s basically saying you’re racing against the best, most experienced competitors.
“In contention to win” means the driver is close enough to actually have a shot at winning. It usually depends on being in the right spot on the track and having a fast car at the right time.
“Points” are how NASCAR keeps score across the whole season. If you make mistakes and finish worse than you could, you lose points that affect your chances later.
The “Riley series” sounds like a lower-level racing series where drivers learn and prove themselves. The idea is that it helps them get ready for bigger NASCAR races later.
Carson Hosebar is another NASCAR driver mentioned as an example. They’re saying his path suggests that moving up to tougher competition can succeed.
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I would keep doing that just because it aggravates people, and I love to aggravate people.
Yay! I love it.
So what grade are we giving this then?
I love North Wilkesboro burnouts. You know why?
It rattles the...
It just rattles the freaking glass.
I've picked second place like seven times.
You suck at this and you're still in last.
Welcome to Kevin Harvick's happy hour presented by Nascar on Fox.
I'm Kevin Harvick, Katelyn Bencey, Mamba Smith, and our...
Oh, you got the...
Yeah, yeah.
That's cute.
Well, you...
That's a little outdated.
Yeah.
I mean, we have newer ones.
Well, I'd have to pay for it right now.
I would love...
I would rep the new gear, yeah.
Yeah, he's referencing the cars to her win over the weekend in Idaho, right?
Yeah.
I mean, the only reason Kevin won is because Katelyn was on the East Coast racing the other
time.
He wasn't even in the...
He wasn't even in the ballgame last time.
They wrecked his ass.
I don't advise taking jabs on Kevin Wright to start the show.
No, I'm starting right on top.
It was a good weekend, though.
It was. You got to experience it.
I did. It was awesome.
It's really...
It's amazing to see just the following that that whole part of the country has.
And you got to see it...
I mean, you hear me talk about it all the time.
But to see it firsthand with the pill draw party and the VIP events and just the enthusiasm
up there is unmatched right now, really.
So really fun to go up there.
It was smoky.
A lot of fires.
It was because the Canada Wildfires, yeah.
So every morning you kind of would experience that.
But we'll talk about our weekend in Idaho more.
So welcome in, everybody.
We are on episode 38, if you can believe that.
Five races to go until the chase.
That is hard to believe.
You obviously were out at North Wilkesboro.
Yeah.
Being Where's Waldo?
Yeah.
Not Waldo.
Where's Mumbo?
Mumba.
I forgot this week.
We got to get them to change it to Mumbo.
Then you're not going to be able to get them to do that.
That's way better.
We only have one more week to go.
Way better.
That's way better.
Mumbo sounds like a disc jockey that couldn't get out of a radio.
I mean, you could fall for disc jockey.
You know what I mean?
Like...
Now coming live from turn two is like, let's go to Mumbo.
It does actually sound like that.
No.
It was really cool.
It was fun out there.
It reminds me of...
So Marcus Smith had a quote in the pre-race video that they ran.
He's like, I wanted this place to be a museum of speed.
And when you think about it like that, it really is.
You step back into traditional times of NASCAR.
One of the coolest things to me is when you pull in and you park,
the campground is right there.
It's like right on the racetrack.
You are in the midway with your camper.
And that's just not something that we have anywhere else.
And then obviously there's the Tyson scoreboard and then the Winston cup logo on the back
that they sealed over so it's going to stay forever.
All that stuff is super cool and really important.
You were up on the scoreboard.
I was working.
You were working.
It looked kind of tricky.
I'm going to tell you what right now.
First of all, those people need to get paid and paid way more.
The Brooks family, they built that scoreboard.
They've been doing it the whole time for 60 years.
So it's Ken, Judy, who just had a birthday.
Happy birthday, Miss Judy and Tracy, their son.
They've been doing it there the whole time it's been there.
And you got to be like six foot, like three to do what you were not,
which I am not.
So I was, it was, it was hung up, you know, those things are OG.
So it was cool though.
Did you go with the full button this weekend?
Is that even a question?
He did.
Of course.
And the chain.
Yeah.
The chain was good.
And I would keep doing that just because it aggravates people.
And I love to aggravate people.
It's absolutely amazing because those are going to be the same people.
If you unbutton your shirt, they tell you to button your shirt.
Yeah, that's kind of fun.
Tricks of the trade according to Kevin Harvick.
We like to aggravate people.
We'll probably aggravate somebody by the time the show is done.
We'll see.
But speaking to mama talking about the nostalgia, obviously,
of North Wilkesboro, but what did you think of the race as a whole?
Look, it was an absolutely awesome event and started on Friday with the cars
to a race and in the crowd and that they had for the late model races.
And then you roll that right into Saturday with the truck race and just
the enthusiasm that comes from being back at North Wilkesboro is second to none.
And I think, you know, when you look at the race itself on Sunday,
I mean, Joey Logano dominated the race and Denny Hamlin had nothing for him.
I think that Ty Gibbs was really the only car that had anything for Joey Logano.
And he had a speeding penalty and went to the back and that kind of took that over.
So the only thing that aggravates me a little bit, talk about aggravating people,
it aggravated me a little bit, is the 7 o'clock start.
I just don't like.
I don't like the 7 o'clock start.
I think it hurts the racing too when it starts to cool off.
And so, you know, those mid-afternoon races, especially on a short track like this,
I think, enhance the racing.
I heard Chase Elliott speaking about that quite a bit, saying that he would rather
see more Saturday night racists.
Easy.
He loved, I know.
Easy.
Would you want Saturday night or Sunday night?
I mean, if we're going to go 7 o'clock starts, I'd rather have Saturday night.
But it's just, it's not as easy to run a Saturday night race.
I mean, it's NASCAR racing.
We're Saturday afternoon.
You go to church and you go to the race.
Sunday afternoon.
Yeah.
Sunday afternoon.
I will say that it was scorching hot outside.
So that 7 o'clock does, you know, cools off, makes it a little nicer for everybody.
But I thought the race was great.
I mean, there was a, a lot of the fans have been wanting old 90s 2000 racing.
And that is exactly what that was to me.
Like that's what I remember.
Long runs, someone dominating.
I mean, Logano and the 22 group belt to ass all night long.
Like you thought that they were going to fall off and they got the lead and it just
never really happened.
I thought that if his teammate Blaney could have got up in the mix, it maybe would have
been a little bit different because Ryan came from last, uh, after they had to change
the steering rack and made his way all the way back through.
And then at the end, speeding penalty kind of took all that away, but I, he wouldn't
account him anyway.
Like he needed a car.
Anyone needed a caution.
Except that.
And I, you know, look, I love the changes that we made this week to the super speedway
package.
And I love the aggression that NASCAR is taking towards trying to make that product better.
I know we've put some work into the short track program, but it's definitely the next
thing on the agenda to, to, to make better.
Yeah.
I just, you know, I look at the end of that race and you look at everything that was happening,
just the long green flag runs and, and that's going to happen sometimes.
It's racing, right?
Like some, some football games are blowout.
Some things, some things happen, but I still feel like we have a lot of room to work on
making our short track package better for the cup cars.
So always work to be done.
You mentioned obviously Joey Logano, the guy who won a pretty impressive win at that
323 laps he led on the way to this victory.
What kind of statement do you feel like that made?
Well, the first statement it made is we didn't know if they still had that in them as far
as the team goes.
And when you look at that type of statement, knowing his past history at North Wilkesboro
and putting on that type of performance before shows you that the capability is there to,
to be able to, to get those cars to do what they need to do.
I think that, you know, I think they'll be strong at Loudoun.
I think they'll be strong at Phoenix with Blaney Blaney one at Phoenix at the beginning
of the year.
Gateway.
So, I mean, there are, there are racetracks, but their deficit at the mile and a half racetracks
is just going to be, going to be tough to overcome.
So, but you never know.
Pinsky has been here before at this point of the season to, to be able to show up magically
at the end of the year to, to be able to put that performance on, but still going to be
tough to beat those Toyotas.
You see Joey when we talked to him a couple of weeks ago, you could tell he was very puzzled
as to why they were so far behind.
So, this obviously has to be a huge shot in the arm.
Yeah.
It was, it wasn't, he was frustrated.
Obviously, I'm sure he's frustrated, right?
But it wasn't that when we were talking to him is really like, I'm not sure why, why
we're so far off because they've, I'm sure that they've been working and trying to do
all the things.
And the 12 has been fast.
So, that's really kind of annoying when one of the cars is good and everyone else is just
like meter or where they've been, which is really in the trunk.
But I've said it before on this show and I'll say it again.
Brittany Logano said, never count out Joe Logano and these boys let him or letting him
into the chase.
And I, I'm not saying that he's going to go on a tear and win the championship, but
when he has something to race for, he's a bulldog and like he's going to race for everything
he's got.
So, yeah.
The detriment to them is there, I think they're going to run better in the chase.
Yeah.
I think they're going to be better than what they were, but they're already starting behind.
Way far.
Yeah.
So, it's not like they're getting a reset to be able to say, all right, we're on, we're
on even ground here and we can, we more even ground what they're going to be and we can
make it up during the, the old playoff system like they did and be set for one track.
Right.
Now they, that track is different and it's not a track that they have excelled on in
the past from the 22 car standpoint.
So, I think that they're going to be better, but with the chase system, they're going to
be behind.
If they make it.
I think.
Now, Blaine needs a different story.
Yeah.
He's in a good spot.
If the 22 makes it in, I think to have a shot with two races to go, like two or three,
he's going to have to win like three races.
Yeah.
Like cause you could, you should see the point, you saw the point jump just with that win,
what it did.
Winning matters.
It does a lot, but he's going to have to win like three of them and get some help to
have a shot.
Joey Logano currently 49 above the line.
Denny Hamlin saying his impressive or he was wildly impressive is what he called him
on Sunday.
He did.
I know.
I was this nice sportsmanship.
Yay, sports.
Um, also Joe gives a racing finish 234
So if you were to pick an organization right now to win the championship, is it JGR?
Absolutely.
Okay.
I mean, I don't know based upon everything that's happened this year, I don't know how
you could pick anything different.
Um, you know, the Hendrick crowd, they didn't show up this weekend and do anything that
was dominant.
We haven't seen them dominant like we have in the past anywhere.
You know, we've seen one car here, one car there kind of be in the mix in the top five,
but we haven't seen that domination and we've heard them talk about a lot about the things
that they're chasing with the balance of the race car and everything that they're fighting.
So they, those problems are public now and they, everybody knows that they're fighting
it to try to figure that out and we're five races from the chase and, and they really
haven't.
Yeah.
Would you say Joe Gibbs racing as well or you make a vote for 23 11?
I mean, at the beginning of the year, I picked C bell, so that's, you know, we're right in
that camp.
I don't like waffling on my picks, but I will say with some new information that has come
to light as in the last few weeks, the 12 is looking pretty sporty.
And if there's someone that was going to crash the party, I think right now it's looking
more like Ryan Blaney in the 12 bunch rather than anybody else.
They just are executing.
He messed up this weekend, but they're executing on a pretty high level.
And how about Chase Brisco 30th to third?
I mean, that's not easy to do 45 points.
He was able to earn an 11 stage points and not by their doing other than they had a bad
finish at Atlanta when qualifying got rained out and the metrics set the starting field.
So it definitely mixed some things up at the beginning of this race that might not have
ever, otherwise been that way if we had qualified.
So, you know, you, you look at that and SVG is a great example, right?
Like you, you have Chase Brisco coming from the back.
SVG starts towards the front.
Has another stellar day because they qualify good and that's really the key to the 97 car.
And when they can get themselves positioned in the front of the pack for an oval race,
they tend to have a good day and, you know, they, they had another good day leading laps
and had some a funny moment on the radio after he took the lead.
So that was definitely a fun moment for, for SVG and that team.
You mentioned the funny, yeah, we, we have the radio.
So let's hear what SVG had to say after he took the lead.
So it's your door, so it's your door.
Happening off at your door, still there, still there, corner,
still there, clear, clear, clear, half in line, half to the top now.
Bleeding, what the f**k are they doing now?
That's pretty funny.
Just keep doing what you're doing on the road course, manage your stuff.
But I think, you know, we were kind of talking about a little bit before the show started.
Like, I think one thing about SVG that we've seen with other drivers that hasn't really
happened with SVG is other guys that have come over the road course guys that have come from the
road course. We often say at the beginning, Martinsville, you know, like a north walks
way, anywhere where there's breaking involved in heavy braking, they've seemed to
been better at early and then it seems to tailor off a little bit and they kind of even
out for whatever reason. SVG, it seems like he's locking in to these style race tracks.
And I think also a big thing is those guys always seem pressed like they always seem
like they had something to prove or all the things.
And I think Shane is just legitimately enjoying his time in a NASCAR Cup series.
And I think that goes a long way.
And I think it makes it easier for him to navigate through the tougher days.
But he's also just really smart, Kev.
Well, he has a he has an extremely high.
I've been around Shane a lot.
He has an extremely high racing IQ.
He has a great ability to look at something and apply it.
And he's very much into the data and study and doing all the things that he needs to do to get better.
And with oval racing is just such a different technique than everything else.
And when you hear him talk about the short tracks, it's more similar to the road race technique
as far as his feet and the things that he's trying to do in the race car than it is on a mile and a half.
The mile and a half is getting that car right up against the edge and and not spinning out
and being able to know what you need in your car is a lot different than the feel
that you get from the short tracks.
And listening to him talk about that and explain that is pretty straightforward,
but also pretty interesting to hear how he's adapted to it.
So he's got the road courses down.
He's done good on the super speedways.
He's done good on the short tracks.
So the mile and a half are really the last thing that that he has on the agenda.
And he's leading their team like he's the guy at Trackhouse.
He's the lead guy as far as the short tracks in super speedways and road courses.
And it's pretty wild to think about how quickly he has become Trackhouse's lead guy
to push things forward on all the race tracks.
And just really interesting with the Ross Chastain piece of it.
Connor Zillich is a rookie and had his struggles with with everything this year
as far as the cup car goes.
But SVG has it keeps adapting and keeps getting better.
And I think the SVG part.
Sorry, Katelyn, real quick is when you talk about mile and a half,
that also comes into a lot to do with the car as well, like how good the equipment is.
And so I think it shows up heavily there.
And so as he's learning, the car also needs to be there for him to keep growing
in that length and that growth.
SVG's progress has been very significant.
So he left North Wilkesboro with the top five.
What did he have to say after the race?
Take a listen.
I struggling like I felt fine.
But when I stopped, I went, oh, shit, I'm pretty cooked.
But, uh, yeah, it's fun.
Oh, short and sweet quote.
Yeah, man, a few words.
Well, he also ran the truck race, too.
Yeah.
Finish third.
You know, you had Chase Elliott run all four races.
Honeycutt ran the truck race in both late model races.
So you had a lot of guys that participated, but it was hot brother.
It was hot.
Smoke show hot.
Yeah.
You were out there in the elements to face it yourself.
It's tough.
I mean, I had to sweat.
I was sweating out at that, you know, you have them.
Those big time auto races.
That's right.
Uh, so there were a couple of different significant events that happened in the
race, one involving Alex Bowman and Tyler Reddick.
Um, when Bowman was making an aggressive turn onto pit road, this around lap 184.
What did you see here from the 48, Kevin?
Uh, a mistake.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think that whatever the call was and, and Alex trying to make it happen, you
know, it's just not one of those scenarios that that he was clear and you
see him just drive across.
I don't, it's, it's, it's, it's really hard to explain because, not hard to
explain because it's pretty black and white, right?
Like it's just, you know, he turned over the, the nose of the, of the 45 car and,
and wound up in the fence down here and really put his whole team in a bad
situation because they'd already pit and put them a lap or two down and, and
kind of put a huge kink in, in a lot of people's plans as far as pitting.
So, uh, just a mistake on, on the 48's part.
What did you see out of that incident?
No, I mean, that was that.
And I don't remember if it was Shannon or Danielle that had the report that Blake
is Coochie Blake Harris was like, uh, that was my bad.
And then Alex is like, no, I thought there was a hole.
So there was obviously like some miscommunication, maybe not miscommunication,
but it's maybe he called him in late and Alex was like, okay, I can get there
right now and it just wasn't there.
So that mistake happened.
Definitely have to look in the mirrors.
Look in the rear view.
So they're for a reason.
William Byron, he was the highest Hendrick motorsports Chevrolet in 12.
Um, the, the company just seemed to be struggling a bit at this race track.
Where do you think Hendrick is at right now as a whole?
That's a great question.
And I think they're wondering the same thing.
I just think that they're, they're just looking for the balance of, of the
race car that they can't consistently find.
And I feel like they're all, all over the place trying to find that, which
is what you do when you're looking for the, the something to, to make the car
go faster, you have to try to swing for the fence and different things that
you're, that you're putting into your car, but they're definitely, definitely
don't have the, the dominant speed that they need at any race track yet.
So, um, you know, I think that William Byron, it was interesting to hear him
address his radio issues that they had last week on the radio and kind of
saying, you know, blowing off steam to, to, um, sometimes you just, you
can't just hold that stuff in.
It's better to get it out and, and blow that steam off and, and everything was
fine, but I don't agree with that because it's just, when you get to that point
of everything not being fine and you blow up, it just, you can feel the
tension, right?
Like in the 2014, you can definitely feel the tension.
I think that Alan and, and Chase, you know, they've done it so long that you,
you know, you, you can, they can deal with it.
I don't know that the 24 car has really been through these struggles that,
that they have, I think the 48 is kind of just where it's been for the last
couple of years with, with how they're up and down and, and run, uh, and had to
deal with the injury.
So just a lot of uncertainty as far as when they're going to be good, when
they're not going to be good, who, which car is going to be good.
So it's, um, you know, they're, they're struggling.
We predicted this could happen with the new body that there
would be with some growing pains.
Didn't know it didn't, don't think anyone predicted to go this long.
And that's the way that it is.
That's the thing that's intriguing.
It's long.
I mean, I mean, they're not really, they've gotten incrementally closer, but
they're not here and there, but to Kevin's point, it's not weekly.
And it's not all, it's not all four cars, right?
Like it's kind of sporadic.
And I think if you're an organization that is that buttoned up like Hendrick is
like, that's one of the most frustrating things is like, we have, we have some of
the, we think that we have the best people in the sport in our house and the
best drivers.
We can't find it across any four of the cars.
Yeah.
That's a frustrating listening to Jeff Andrews and the interview that he did
talking about, Hey, when we designed this car, it had more downforce, less drag,
which is what we were shooting for.
And then you put it on the racetrack and you get real life results.
Ultimately, that tells you there's a problem with your tools and what's your,
what you're doing with your tools to apply it in the, in the real world and
what's actually happening.
And hearing him talk about, we need to go to the wind tunnel and, and, you know,
because a lot of that stuff is designed and on CFD and then you go to the wind
tunnel and it looks, looks good on paper.
And then you get on the racetrack and the drivers and the teams are like, Hey,
we can't get the balance right.
It's always whatever the characteristics are of the car.
All right, we can't, we can't fix.
And so in the end, it's a design problem.
Ultimately the, the design of the car doesn't meet real life standards of,
of what they need to make this car go around and the rules got changed.
And this is, this is the simple diffuser and the low downforce package.
And, and so the, the tracks that, you know, Vegas and some of these places
that have the last year's package, they've been better.
But when you get into this package and everything that they designed for the
last year's diffuser and everything that went with it from an arrow type
situation, now it's different.
And there, everything that they designed that car for was for the last year's
diffuser that made a bunch more downforce.
And now you don't have that and everything that you designed to put
into the car to make it have more downforce.
Uh, and obviously they, it's on the front of the car, obviously to make it
turn better and overall downforce, I'm sure as well, just doesn't work with,
with the balance that you need for the, the new package.
We're talking about the Hendrick Motorsports stable.
So let's go to an incident with Kyle Larson, having contact with Conor
Zillich on pit lane.
If something bad's going to happen, you can be sure poor, sweet Conor Zillich
is in the middle of this.
Conor Zillich.
Um, but yeah, just yet again, maybe some type of a miscommunication there as well.
Yeah.
And, and really this is just, I mean, look, I mean, Connor was almost
in his pit stall right there.
So he was turning into his pit box when the, when the five was coming out.
So if I'm going to lay blame on somebody, you know, it's, it's probably
easier to put the blame on the five car than it is the, the 88 car with that
88 turning into his pit box right there.
I mean, he was already committed to, to come to his pit box and the five pulled
out.
So if you're going to force me to lay blame, I'm going to put it on the five.
There you go.
It was one of the, there was a two-tire stop, you know, short track type
pit road and he was, Larson was further up quite a bit further up at the time.
Then Zillich and you pit, you pick your pit stalls off of some of that stuff.
But then when you get in the situation, like, Hey, we're going to do two
tires and the guy's coming from 30th.
Well, yeah.
I mean, there was a stall in between them, but it's still, it's one of those
guy in the front puts two tires on guy in the back's coming in types, all the
cars hadn't gone by and it just becomes tough to navigate.
And sometimes typically you navigated aggressively and that one resulted in a wreck.
So there's plenty happening.
And some other news that came out over the weekend, uh, the NASCAR officials
will change the practice format from two groups of 25 minutes, each to one
15 minute session involving all cars.
This will begin it loud.
Yeah.
What impact will I love it?
Hopefully we get more tires too.
We need another set of tires so that the cars stay on the racetrack and that's
what it's going to take to, to get guys like Connor Zillich and some of these
teams more practice time to be able to try some things and not just race tune
what you brought to the racetrack.
So I'm all for more practice.
I love it.
Kevin's happy.
It's good.
It's good.
It's good for everybody.
I think I tweeted this out.
It's good for the drivers.
It's good for the teams.
It's good for the tracks because the tracks are getting cars on track more times.
It's good for the fans that are at the racetrack because they're seeing more
action on track actually get to see the cars move.
Exactly.
It's good for TV because now TV has something more to show longer.
Everything.
This is good for everybody.
Good positives all around with that change being made.
So we touched on it a little bit at the beginning of the show of our weekend in
Idaho.
So we want to explain a little bit more of what we were doing.
Um, what did we do?
We went to a racetrack.
Yeah.
Uh, but it was several days long.
Like we went out Wednesday.
And you just got back.
Well, we went to the Idaho 200 and typically it's a three day event.
So we went, um, Wednesday night, we had a VIP dinner.
Um, Thursday night, we had a pill draw party with a concert and, you know,
they had a, you know, pretty much a capacity crowd on, on Saturday.
You got to, got to see everything that was happening.
That's the pill draw party right there.
And this was the VIP event.
Just, you know, one of the, one of the big, oh, and these are the ride alongs
Katelyn bobble headed, she bobble headed all the way along a ride along with Kevin,
which was fricking awesome, but it was a little scary.
I will say that I mean, Candace, she was like, he's going to scare you, uh,
Candace Hornaday.
And I didn't do anything that was way out.
No, I think it was just driving normal.
Hey, who, who took a better, who was better in the seat, Piper or Katelyn?
Cause I remember you did this with Piper last year.
Yeah.
Well Piper's head just wound up down like this because she couldn't hold her head
up with the helmet and, but she got a full speed ride to, and, you know,
I think that Katelyn's car, uh, that, that we had in Idaho, it was probably
not as nice as the, as the Owasso ride along cars, but same, same feeling.
That's a power and I think, yeah, that's what I told her.
I said, just don't look under the hood.
Get in the seat and ride along, but it's, it's fun.
We had a lot of, uh, officials and things that had never been able to do that
before and just being able to keep it fun in the garage.
We want to take it seriously and make sure the cars are fair and all that,
but it still has to be fun and you still have to, they do a great,
they did a great job this weekend of involving the community,
which is really what keeps short tracks going.
How do we get the local businesses involved?
How do we get the, you know, the, the city council involved?
How do we get all those people involved to support the track?
And, and we had a great fireworks show at the end too after we won.
That one caught me off guard, kind of scared me when I got out of the car.
I wasn't, I didn't know we had fireworks that we're just going to blow off.
Uh, as soon as I stepped out of the car, but they did a great job promoting it
involving the community and doing all the things that, that they did this
weekend to keep, keep the, the town involved and, and they do a great job
promoting it. So it was fun.
Local short tracks.
I enjoyed it.
And that part of the country is beautiful and you can tell they want racing.
They do.
You know, and so it was special.
And it was cool to see Kevin drive sitting next to him.
Like it gives you a whole new perspective as well.
I think I'm like, I could never do this ever better you than me.
I'd like to take you for a ride mumbo.
Yeah, I bet you would.
Unless there's a break on my side.
I don't know if I'm going to trust you.
What do you mean?
I don't know if I'll trust you.
You should see the way some of those people get out of those cars.
I mean, it is not anything that they would expect.
Right.
And people don't have, they have a much better understanding of what's
happening after they get out, even though it's, I mean, that one was
pretty close to the same speed as the race car.
So yeah, I mean, I even had a new perspective and I've been
covering this a long time.
Yeah.
It's always fun to see him try to get back out to baby deer legs trying to get out.
I was shaking at the end.
I was like, holy shit, that wasn't okay.
So that was everyone's weekend in North Wilkesboro and Idaho.
Congrats to Kevin on the wind.
Now we are going to the brickyard.
Why are you looking at me like that?
I did.
Well, real quick, I just want to get Kevin's thought on this real quick.
So, oh boy, I'm going to roll back here, roll the tape back a little bit.
So at the end of the race, Logano is trying to outrun Denny Hamlin.
Riley Herps happens to find himself in front of the 22 and is all of a sudden
driving like his hair is on fire, which, you know, Toyota Toyota, I get it.
It's, you know, it's over.
And, but Joey about gave him a couple lumps of coal.
He about sent them.
And then Riley said, okay, that's enough.
And he passed on and went on by and then a little bit further in front,
where there was three more Toyotas and then Ryan Blaney and the 12 somehow has
found his way to the front of the lead, to the front side of the leaders.
And he does his great move where he kind of like plays possum, gets the
Toyotas to kind of line up around the top.
And then the minute the 22 gets to the tail end of that group, he moves to the
top and then the 22 just rushes by all of them.
And then the 11 had was couldn't, like, couldn't catch him anymore.
That was a big lead up.
Yeah.
I just thought it was, I just thought it was very games, man.
It's games and ship gamesmanship.
Yeah.
And both ends, you know, I think it's, you're going to, you, a guy that you don't
want to win, you're going to make it a lot harder for him to pass than the guy
that you want to win.
That's on your team.
So that was fun to watch.
Yeah.
I think it's, um, but those are also the things you got to remember as you go
down the road that part.
Yeah.
So that gamesmanship will also continue as, as you get into those situations
later, because they will be remembered, especially if the leader of North
Wilkesboro is the 22 car.
And it's, he's in that situation of, of one of those other cars.
I love it.
Yeah.
I mean, for us, I love, I watched it.
I was dying laughing.
I'm like, this is great.
Yeah.
Well, the next opportunity for more gamesmanship is at Indianapolis this weekend.
That's where we're headed next.
The brickyard.
It's a very famous, obviously, um, high, a lot of big races track.
Yeah.
A lot of big races there.
Kevin, big races.
Um, what are your memories of that place?
It was a great place for me every year that we went there.
We, we went there intending to have the chance to win and be able to run in the
front and, and you know, to be able to, to go to victory lane a few times, um, at
the brickyard was special for me.
I grew up in Bakersfield, California.
If you all, as you've all heard, uh, Rick me, if you weren't part of the
Mears gang, you were not liked in the town because Rick Mears, Roger Mears,
everybody that, um, watched Indy car racing in, in, in the Indy 500.
So growing up as a kid, that's what you thought you wanted to do.
You wanted to be at the Indy 500 to race Indy cars and to be like Rick Mears.
And, you know, so going back and being able to experience going to victory lane
at the brickyard was about as close as you can get to living out your childhood
dream and just always a place that, that, you know, for, for me was, was pretty
special to go to, let alone win at.
So it's, it's, um, it's a place that, that I love going to tough place to,
tough place to, to, um, to navigate, uh, because it's, you have to have a good
car to be able to make passes and restarts are, are super important to
be able to put yourself in a position to, to take advantage of, and that's
the easiest time to, to gain that track position.
So, um, just a, a very technical place to, to be able to hit your marks and
do all the things you need to qualify well, uh, in order to have a great chance
at winning the race.
It's a great venue for the drivers, for the fans.
What's different about pit lane there that presents additional challenges
and narrow narrow and that, which is wild cause it's so big.
You think that it would be, but it's built for Indy cars.
It wasn't built for stock cars.
So, um, we've seen people get smashed up on the entrance of pit road.
We've seen people go down pit road and mess up on the exit.
Um, so it's going to be challenging for the teams and the drivers, uh, to navigate
that, just making sure that you're, um, executing on pit road.
This week will be huge.
And when you walk into that place, it's amazing.
It's just like, it's just like, yeah, you know, you're in something, you got to
take a second, find the Pagoda, find the bricks and just like take a second
when you get, if you are going out there this weekend.
And then obviously you guys know that it's one of my favorite towns to go to.
Uh, the wild beaver and IRP, which is my favorite race track.
I think of all time.
Talk about that for people who may not really know, we'll be there.
Yeah.
I think IRP, um, I hate that.
O'Reilly is on the big track.
I hate the O'Reilly series.
I just think that IRP is a staple.
And like when you're a young driver coming up, it used to be one of those places
that you would probably get one of your first starts.
Cause most people come from short track racing.
So that was one of the first ones you could do.
And the, the grooves that you could race in and how racy the track was.
And just a lot of young drivers had really good runs there.
And you always like, well, okay, that's one place I need to go to have a good run
to get because you were racing against the cup guys or the higher up guys.
And you, the equipment that you could get then was able to compete.
I think was the biggest thing on the short track.
And that's where I was always the place to be on Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
It was the place to be on Thursday, Friday, Saturday night before the brickyard.
Okay.
So there's plenty of exciting reasons to watch the racing this weekend.
Bubba Wallace won the last time we were there.
How bad do you think he'd like to make that happen again?
What kind of situation?
It's not dire, but it is.
I think it is because it's, it's been a year.
Well, and I think that you look at how many races Tyler Reddick has won.
You've seen Bubba being contentioned to, to win a couple of races.
We saw it at Atlanta, right?
Mistake in contention to win.
I know he would have finished second, but, you know, he's put himself down in the
points and with things that have happened and mistakes that they've made on the
racetrack and I think their cars are capable of winning.
It's just about putting all the pieces together.
Not easy to do in cup racing, uh, you know, when, when you're making mistakes
and, and you've got a teammate like Tyler Reddick that, that's out there running
as good as he is and, and all the other Toyot is running, running really well.
He can win.
It's just a matter of putting the, putting the day together to, to be able to get
that car into victory lane.
So I think it's, he's got to win.
And I think he's just at that point in his career where he's been around it
long enough to where he knows he's capable of winning.
He knows his cars are capable of winning.
And I think that they, they need to, they got to get themselves back to victory
lane to really just kind of, you know, kind of get the pressure off of themselves.
As far as everybody's talking about it and knowing that so many of the Toyot is
our winning races.
I'm sure he had this race circled when he looked ahead to his schedule.
Oh, I'm sure last year, this was a huge win for him because he, he did it toe to
toe with one of the sports best.
He had to beat him on multiple restarts.
So those mistakes that Kevin was talking about, he didn't have them.
It was a really, it was a, a resume defining type of win.
Cause of who you did it against.
So I'm for sure you did it at and for surely circled for him.
This year, but also it's going to be the same for even though the team,
Penske cars have won the last two races.
If you think that, if you don't think that they have this one high for sure,
with it being RP Rodgers place and how much this place means to him and how
close Ryan Blaney has come to winning at the brickyard multiple years.
Like, you know, it means a lot to Austin Cinderick.
It means a lot to the whole organization, but it's going to, they're,
they're going to be putting their best foot forward, I think at this weekend.
And not to be forgotten, the in season challenge is happening and we'll
conclude this weekend.
That's right.
Um, Todd Gillan in the mix and the Todd father.
I think it's cool for him.
No, it's great.
I'm glad that we have an underdog in it.
Like last year's underdog was Ty Dillon and then it was Ty Dillon, Ty Gibbs.
I think that's really fun.
I think it's something good, uh, for the middle of the summer, the dog days of
summer, um, I think it needs to be, we have a couple more tweaks, I think, uh,
a little bit more money, a little bit more money, more money for money,
the rest of the field for no, no, no, I think for the winner and the team.
Like I think one of the issues is I'm not exactly sure how the money gets
distributed distributed.
I am because they're like, what are you going to do with this money?
And I think it's a little bit in question on where it goes.
And then that changes how people are going to, you know, strategize for it and
all the things, but needless to say, if you win this, it does help your
season.
If you know, you're not going to go to the chase, I agree.
And I think it's, it's fun to talk about.
I don't think anybody, the first two years, this being the second year that
we've done it, I don't think anybody would have picked the final, hell no,
the final two guys, three out of the four of them, like maybe, maybe, but the
other guy's probably not, that's what makes it fun.
And also not to be forgotten, either, uh, Todd Gillen sign a contract extension.
Yeah.
And look, Todd's done a great job.
And, and I think front row has done a great job through, through the years.
You go back to the Michael McDowell days and, and you look at Todd Gillen and,
and all the different drivers that, that they've had in that car, those
cars that have had success and they do a lot with less and they've really picked
it up over the last month.
I mean, they were awful, awful, but you know, the, the couple of months before
that, and all of a sudden they've got the ship right in back on track.
And you saw Chandler Smith, uh, when the truck raced their trucks with, with
Lane Riggs and Chandler Smith, they've been on point really last several years.
And, and so it's a, a good little program.
I think Todd and, and obviously David Gillen, his father that have a long history
there, it's, it's fun to see the front row has a way of making things work with
guys, with certain guys.
I don't think it's been great for Noah, but it was great for Michael McDowell.
It's been great for Todd Gillen.
It's been great for Zane Smith.
So that culture and environment is, it takes the right person.
And really that's true for every team, the culture and environment.
Some guys fit, some guys don't, how you align the crew chiefs and, and they've
been through different crew chiefs and, and just figured out how to make that
culture work, uh, within their budget and the things that they have.
So that's, but that's no different than, than Hendrick Motorsports or Joe Gibbs
racing or whoever you want to talk about.
Sometimes it just, I mean, look at Joe Elagano did not work at Joe Gibbs racing
for him, went to Penske and instantly had the success that it takes to go along
with that.
And so it's just, it's interesting to me how certain companies work for
certain guys, because I would argue that Michael McDowell, if he was still
up front row, he's going to have been more successful than he's been at
Spire Motorsports.
So, um, it's just interest, always interesting to see which guy works in
which culture they get poached to, you know what I mean?
Like those teams get kind of, they see some talent, a bigger team, see some talent.
You always want to go, you always want to go to the bigger team because why
would you not, right?
And then it doesn't, sometimes it doesn't work.
It doesn't work out.
Zane was awful at track house.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, that didn't work situation.
It's just, that's what I mean by the, by the culture and just the, the, um, you
know, the, who the person is that's going into that culture and how it works as
to whether it works or not.
Real quick, uh, I've seen social media, uh, a lot of talk about lane rigs,
potentially getting it moving up into the cup series.
Do you think that would be the move?
I know we talked about like whether the Riley series makes sense and what you
learn, what you don't learn, what do you think, what are you guys saying?
I'd put him straight in a cup car.
Let him do it.
Like if Noah, I mean, we heard Noah have his comments about looking for a job.
I mean, if he's not going to be in that four car, I would 100% put lane rigs in
that car.
You know, okay.
Yeah.
Move them up.
Yeah.
I mean, it worked.
It, it's worked for Corey Hyman and, um, what's that other guy's name?
What's the other guy?
Carson Hosebar.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I couldn't remember his name.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
There you go.
Uh, okay.
So that is the brickyard and everything we have to look forward to for that.
And now I get to hand the reins over to you.
Oh my goodness.
Uh, we did actually inquire with the fans when we were in Idaho, if in fact their
favorite segment is the seps, they told us no, no, they, they said we should
rename it to mumbos.
Oh, so it is.
So it is their favorite part.
He said he got to rename it.
I just want to let you the fans at the dinner portion about that.
And they loved it.
They, they know it aggravates me.
So now they just bring it up.
You think that's why?
Or do you think they actually like it?
No, they just know it aggravates me.
I think they actually like it.
But the fact that it aggravates you is even twice as sweet aggravate any mini anyway.
Any mini?
Yeah, that too.
I'm tired.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I'm ready for this part.
Mamba's social sips.
Welcome to your favorite part of the show.
Listen, uh, this weekend, Brexton Bush was wheeling and he was wheeling.
So he ran the outlaw in the restricted class.
Um, this is in the restricted class.
Got in a little tangle early.
Well, Fender Bender, no harm, no foul puts it on the top, rips the lip and ends up
winning this race.
He also ran the outlaw in Kyle's car and ran really well in the outlaw, um, in
his outlaw run too.
So this is super cool.
Brexton winning over the weekend.
Scared me right here.
This one scared me.
Whoa.
That could be big.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I'm so happy for, for Samantha and Brexton and being able to do that.
I've been fortunate to be around Brexton a little bit more since, uh, you know,
Kyle's passing and, and look, he just, he's a racer.
He, and I think this is exactly what his, what his dad would want him to be
doing, winning races and being at the track.
Sure.
That's just, it's a good day when a bush is in victory lane, when we see that.
Yeah.
Love to see it.
Love to see it.
We're going to stay, we're going to stay with the next generation with, with the
kids shout out to my man.
I've been watching this kid race a little bit because I've been around the
short tracks this summer.
Kip can house.
I know this kid.
All right.
It's, you know, Chad's Chad's son getting it done.
Um, he wins his doubleheader.
It looks like he was at a track house motorplex out there.
Clean sweep.
It says, yeah.
Super cool.
I just love seeing when that, when that gen, when that time, you know, where
the next group are starting to, we're getting old and then the new ones are
coming in.
Yeah.
Do you follow him on social media?
I just did.
No.
Is it awesome?
Q.
Oh, he's talking a lot.
Isn't he, um, doing red voiceover of his days?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's hilarious.
It didn't listen into him talk because he's just a little boy, but he's,
he's funny.
He's super funny.
It looks like a kid model already.
Like he's got a good, good look, look.
And he's parked from Vermont.
He must have got that.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
He must have got that from his mom.
He definitely did.
She was Ms.
Vermont.
She was.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I definitely got it from his mom.
Sorry, Chad.
Listen, listen, I, I listen, she's a hole in the flight.
You guys think that I'm the coolest person from Vermont.
Not.
Book announces a cool Vermont down.
Hey, I learned something every day.
There you go.
There you go.
Um, and then I found this right before the show, uh, there's this cart.
There's some carting.
They're racing on dirt, which is not abnormal, but they're running like
shifter carts.
Really?
Yeah.
On dirt and on a road course and watch this right here.
Got a little, oh, wow.
That's not good.
I'm glad he, this person was okay, but like the, I just never would have thought
on dirt.
Oh, you've never seen this.
No, I thought it was amazing.
Dirt road courses are awesome in go carts.
That seems bad.
That's not in, I don't believe that's in this country that it, well, judging by
the commentator, I don't think so.
Yeah.
We'll might know who this is.
Yeah.
British accent.
Yeah.
Maybe, maybe I'll say, I have a hard time with differentiating the
Australian to New Zealand one kind of gets me a little bit.
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought it was really cool though.
So look, look cool.
Right up right until, right up until like go cart lines on your head.
Yeah.
Right until it wasn't, but hey, short and sweet.
That's your favorite part of the show.
Well, there you have it.
His work here is done.
Time now guys for the last call.
And this is where we get to grade the burnout for Mr.
Joey Logano, who had spent quite a bit of time not being able to do a burnout.
I love North Wilkesboro burnouts.
You know why rattles the, it just rattles the freaking glass in the, in the
TV booth because you're, you're so close at, at, at that racetrack.
And, and the last time I heard him do one, it rattled the windows and always
funded to see the kids get, get put in the right side of the car and be able to
take a lap with dad after winning.
And I can tell you that look that the stress of Joey not winning and running
bad, I promise you is felt at home.
I remember how it was when we would go through those, those streaks of, of not
running well.
And, and look, you got to have a very understanding, tolerant family at home.
But when you do, and Brittany is in, in his kids, he does a great job with, with
his kids family of trying to moderate that.
But even though as hard as you try, you see the frustration in dad.
So to be able to, to celebrate that relief together is awesome.
And the kids are, and as a, they're like, dad, why didn't you win this week?
And you're like, yeah, they don't know any, yeah, they just, they just, they're
used to dad winning all the time, right?
And then you go through that slump and they, they want to go and have, they
think it's fun.
Yeah.
We're celebrating all the time.
We're throwing water and beer and victory lane and doing burnouts and riding
around the racetrack and going to the media center for press conferences.
And then it goes away.
It's like, what's it happen all the fun, isn't this fun?
No kidding.
It's not as fun.
You're nice.
You're telling me.
That's right.
Exactly.
So what grade are we giving this then?
I'm going to give it a B.
Okay.
It was a B for Joey.
It was a good burnout.
It was good burnout.
It was good.
Solid.
Good job, Joey.
Um, and good job to you and I.
Cause we picked, uh, decent this weekend.
No, wait, I, um, hang on, can we just, every time, I've picked second place
like seven times and this is the first time I've been told it was decent.
Is that because you picked the same person?
I've never said that you were bad at this.
I think it's fantastic.
You suck at this and you're still in last here are the standings.
Take a look at where we're at after North Wilkesboro.
Kevin is still leading at 107.
I'm at 78 to Mamba 68.
He picked Christopher Bell, who ended up 19th.
We've chose Denny Hamlin, who was the runner-up.
So good job.
Sorry, you guys didn't win.
Have you picked a winner all year?
I think originally you were going to pick Denny, but then when we did,
you had to divert.
No, I was Bell the whole time.
You were all the whole time.
Okay.
I just felt like they, with their past success, I felt like they would be better.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
All right.
You want us to go first this time?
Well, I finished last.
So go ahead.
I'm going to take tie-gibbs.
Oh, that's cool.
I like that pick.
I am going to the driver you talked about earlier, Blaney, Penske Wynn at the
brickyard, but every time I pick him, something bad happens.
I'm a little worried.
I was actually about to pick him.
Oh, now I'm not going to go ahead.
No, I'm not going to.
Oh, you'll guarantee that you're still in last.
So feel free to see that part of the reason why I'm not doing it.
Cause now I'm, now I'm fighting two different things.
Do you need an entry list?
You know who's in the race?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know he's in the race.
Checking.
Um, but I had a second guy in mind.
And last week he didn't run that well, but I think he'll be just fine this week.
Give me C bell.
There you go.
We just keep rotating the same people.
Well, it's because there's a reason why those are the guys that have been,
those are the guys I've been showing up like, I want, I want to pick the 24.
I want to pick the five and the nine, but like, I, I haven't done for me lately.
And it's just no sign that says, Hey, they're going to, they could be good this
week.
Right.
And they might be fine thought that with Joey here, here at North
Wilkesboro, I mean, it's a possibility, but as bad as they run, I don't think I
did, I wouldn't have picked him and said, Hey, he's going to go out and dominate.
Right.
Yeah.
Does it surprise me?
Not, not at North Wilkesboro and knowing Joey Logano and those guys and just
they, there's only certain guys that can pick the pieces up and then figure
out how to win again.
I mean, there's a handful of those guys in the garage and he's, he's, he's one
of those guys.
Okay.
Well, we'll have to see how these three choices do three very different drivers.
So it should be interesting.
All right guys.
That was fun one.
Again, that's another episode in the books.
Are you guys, are you guys going to be, are you going to be in Indy?
No.
No.
Okay.
Well, if anyone's out there wild, wild beaver.
I'm going to be, what is the wild beaver?
It's my favorite bar.
They do 25 cent beers out there.
I'm going to, I'm going to race again on Wednesday.
Are you?
Yeah.
Owasso, Michigan.
There you have it.
Or a Ovid, Michigan at a wassos.
Yeah.
We're going up there.
It's called the masters of the pros.
Is that, is that, does that mean it's all the old guys?
You get a green jacket if you win.
Oh, oh.
Seriously?
Yeah.
That's fun.
It is fun.
I like that.
More ride-alongs this week too.
More ride-alongs.
Yeah.
I can attest they are fun.
Come see us Wednesday.
Come see him.
All right.
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Harvick happy pod for Kevin, mom and myself.
That does it for us on this edition.
We'll see everybody after the brickyard.
About this episode
North Wilkesboro takes center stage as the hosts revel in “burnouts” and the close-to-the-track TV booth energy, then recap a smoky weekend shaped by “the Canada Wildfires.” Joey Logano’s Sunday dominance is dissected—Ty Gibbs’ challenge gets derailed by a speeding penalty—while the conversation zooms out to chase math, scheduling (7:00 starts vs Saturday night), and why short tracks demand different technique. The show also touches on NASCAR’s evolving aero/rules, practice format changes, and what it takes to rebuild momentum.
Joey Logano dominates at North Wilkesboro Speedway to snap his 45-race winless streak, lead a career-high 323 laps, and extend his streak to 15 straight seasons with a NASCAR Cup Series win! Kevin Harvick, Kaitlyn Vincie, and Mamba Smith break down Penske’s turnaround, Denny Hamlin’s run to 2nd, JGR’s top-four dominance, and Shane van Gisbergen’s impressive top-5 short-track finish. Plus, Kevin breaks down his own victory in the 27th Annual Idaho 200 at Stateline Speedway, Todd Gilliland’s contract extension at Front Row Motorsports and a full preview of the Brickyard at Indianapolis Motor Speedway!
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