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Singer
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Company
RUF
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Term
naturally aspirated
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Car
Porsche
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Term
air cooled
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Term
all-wheel drive system
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Term
lift-off oversteer
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Car
Porsche 930
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Term
stick shift
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Car
Porsche 959
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Car
Nissan Juke
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Term
horsepower
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. More horsepower usually means a car can go faster and perform better.
Car
GMC Hummer EV
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Car
Hummer EV
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Term
rear-wheel drive
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Term
Audi baseball stitch
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Term
carbon fiber
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Car
Porsche 911 Turbo
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Bugatti Veyron
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Porsche Cayenne
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Car
Porsche Cayman
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Car
Porsche 550 Spyder
The Porsche 550 Spyder is an old sports car that was very light and fast. It's famous for being used in racing and is loved by car enthusiasts.
Car
Rivian
Rivian is a company that makes electric trucks and SUVs. Their vehicles are designed for people who love outdoor adventures and want to drive without using gas.
Car
Hyundai Ioniq 5 N
The Hyundai Ioniq 5 N is a sporty version of Hyundai's electric SUV, designed for better performance and fun driving. It's part of Hyundai's N line, which focuses on performance cars.
Term
Ionic speakers
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Term
torque
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Car
Cadillac Lyriq
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Car
Cadillac XT6
The Cadillac XT6 is a spacious luxury SUV that can fit a lot of people and comes with many nice features. It's made for families who want a comfortable and stylish vehicle.
Term
powertrain
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Term
EV
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Car
Pininfarina Battista
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Concept
Dolby Atmos
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Car
Ford Bronco
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Car
Cadillac Escalade
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Concept
cars and coffee
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Car
Singer Turbo DLS
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Car
Chevrolet Camaro
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Car
Porsche 911
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Car
Porsche 911 GT3
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Car
Jaguar Dtype
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Toyota Corolla
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Car
Mazda Miata
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Car
Ford F150
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Car
Lamborghini Diablos
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Car
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
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Car
Toyota Land Cruisers
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Car
Porsche 356
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Car
Ford F-150 Raptor
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Hi everybody. Welcome to a show that wow, I mean, it was it was going to be five and then perfect timing. Perfect timing. If you're just joining us, Zach just had to rebuild the entire board, not rebuild the like with solder like had to
dropped it. We engines lost the studio. And so now there's one board sitting on top of another board because our thing fucking broke. And so, but we're doing a show now on time, ish actually that's
perfect. That's why you get to work early kids because you have to rebuild your whole studio. You could do your fucking show on time. Johnny's here. Hey, Johnny was in a little
bit in Shindig. It costed a fair last night. Everybody was having a good time. It was a lot of fun. It was my big thing was Mr. Paul Kramer, successfully with his new hip and cancer-free. Yeah, rolled in on his wheelchair. And this is why, listen, this is why you buy a ranch home in your forties because you never know. Yeah, you save me a trip to Orange County. This is the real reason I showed up to the party.
Thank you. I mean, look, for me, for you coming to the west side is a is a rare treat as well. Yeah, you come to do our show, but otherwise west side party. It's not, you know, where you live, actually, it's weird. It's not you're not so west side. You know, it's not like it's not like you're telling me to like go to like Brentwood or something. Like it's kind of it's kind
of almost going to Zuckerman's and then it's like five minutes extra. It's not so bad. And, you know, ample parking. So it's the best parking situation in Los Angeles. We do have a good parking situation. Yeah, don't fuck it up. But yeah, here we are. Like many things have happened since I lasted. I have a whole like list of things, but we're not talking about me today. We're talking about you. Oh, I gave you paper and you made a list of things that you want to talk about. Helicopter, Carson coffee and Bids. And then
Coda, also the roof. Oh, that's where I kind of want to start. Yeah, we are, we are apparently. Yeah. And a fan pointed this out to me
the other day that I and I and not know, Zach, have you driven a singer classic? No. Okay, well, probably you also, Johnny, there's not a lot of people
that have driven the singer. Oh, you haven't? No. Okay.
I practiced with like the guy. Yeah. Well, you should draw a choice. You really should. Yeah, I recommend them. But I, but like I'm one of the
I've driven all three of the new roofs. All of the current singer offerings except turbo DLS. So people are like
DMing me. And you know, it's a DM from a random on Instagram. And they're like, well, this or this. And I like roll my eyes. And I'm
like, just get both. And he's like, no, no, really, I am actually like I could get them. And like you're the only
person I know could think of who's driven them. So it's kind of interesting place. But we both drove the roof rodeo. Yeah. And
by the way, I have driven the coupe, whatever they're calling it, Speedster and turbo Gunther. Oh, yeah, those two. I've driven the
rough SCR. So the naturally aspirated, I've driven the rodeo. And I drove the new air cooled one, the true. I haven't driven the
turbo turbo. Yeah, we didn't we drove the crazy one. Yeah. And we did not get to do the air cooled workles. Like I heard it's
real cool. It's it's just like, they're just geniuses that company. Like, like let's do an air cooled with a seven speed. But
you can put it in seventh gear at 30 miles an hour. And it pulls because it's rough. That's crazy. Yeah. Um, uh, we'll come back to
that one. Yeah, we both drove rodeo last week and Zach also drove rodeo last week. Oh, so we're the only three generation of
driven. Yeah. That's, I mean, literally they, they said because I asked, I'm like, Hey, you know, uh, Mr. Roof told me the car's going to be
LA for a week. Could I drive it? It's like afterwards and they came back and they're like, it's actually the tribute. I want to drive
the air cooled one for like a video. And they're like, you know, that car is not running perfect. But you and Matt are the only
ones who allowed to drive the rodeo. I was like, really? Yeah. But Estonia says you have to take it off road. Yeah, can't just drive it. Well,
that was good because I, they asked if I wanted to drive it. And I said, only if I can drive it, not like a bitch, right? And
they were like, yeah, okay. Yeah, they were down like they were totally down. So, yeah, it was these, these little static photos that I
posted on my Instagram, I don't think quite do the justice to the car. But it's six hundred and 10 horsepower with a selectable
all wheel drive system. The the carbon tub that Roof is doing. Yeah, wider body, long travel. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a good time. It's, I, I
described as a million dollar off road handful. Because did you, did you experience the snap lift off? I should say
oversteer. Yes, which I did. I then once I found it the first time I went, oh, I'm now going to do this over and over and over and over again. So
nothing rotates like a rodeo. Nothing. So, so okay. So, you know, you've all grown up listening to how the 930 was the window maker because it had
lift off oversteer. Well, this is the same size car weighs less. It has more than double the power. Yeah. And has the softest
springs of any Porsche ever built. And so, or Porsche like thing. And so when you lift off at a good clip, the rear comes out now, the
weird part is if you leave the traction control on, it yaws about 30 degrees and then corrects itself. Yeah, but it moves you over four feet to
the left. Yeah. So you got to make sure traction controls I found off with way better off is the move for safety. It's much safer to
traction. Yeah. Actually, the, um, the SCR has a pretty interesting traction control system as does the CTR, but like this with this off is the
way. But yeah, if you're not ready for the lift off oversteer, this, this car would be terrifying. It was funny because I had driven it. So I
knew I was doing it. And then Rylic was in the car filming. It's my partner in my YouTube channel. And, uh, the first time it happened, like, I
just kept driving because I knew it was going to happen. He just looked at me like, yeah, bro, I was like, no, no, it's fine, it's fine. We found a closed section of paved road as well as a good
section of gravel. Oh, fun. And there, this car is incredibly easy to drift on tarmac. Oh, yeah, I bet it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had my friend in from out of town. I, and it was
take your old friend to work day. And he was white after a five minute ride in this thing. Um, the, the, and even in a straight line, forget, forget
that because that is very exciting. And once you understand how that works and how to control it, it becomes the car's greatest asset in my
opinion. Yeah, totally. Um, it's like the strato. It's the same thing. It's what the strato should have been with the ground clearance and the
sure, but in terms of like the way how you do the break, flick, smash, catch, yeah, straight, right, right? Yeah, um, yeah, even more exaggerated, uh, and especially because it's
stick shift, like when, when Zach drove it, and I, you know, you feel it in the car, but you really see it when he does like a three year
pull, it's so fun. It's like a, it's like the, it's like the Hummer TV mixed with, I didn't get to drive it. I got to ride it, but the, the, the can
up a nine five nine SC. Yeah, yeah, because now it's 815 horsepower. And it's, you know, shock technology from the 80s. So when you floor it, you're just, the
nose just goes in the air, but then on the roof, it just, when you hit the brakes, it dips forward, it also reminds me of, do you
remember the Juke R? Yeah. So the Juke R kind of was like, like, short wheelbase, too much power and it kind of
bubble around also the best car ever. It kind of was Juke R really was. I didn't even knew about it. They made a Juke R.2. Did
you ever experience that? It was just like, it was like the Nismo power plant way. So it was like, you know, it was, it was only
legally like, it made like eight of those, right? No, they made more than that. Really? Exactly. Look it up, Zach, but they made more, but
then they made the second gen, which I never drove, but apparently it was even better. Because I would definitely still, like, if I was that,
if I was into GTRs, I would pay, you know, one of AMS or one of these shops just build me. Yeah, exactly. Because you, I wouldn't, because the
real one would also be like, very collectible. Yeah. I would want one that you, there would be disposable. And I think the first one was
like 465 horsepower. And then the 2.0 horsepower. Yeah. Yeah. So got the Nismo power plant. So sweet. I thought the Juke R was one
of the greatest cars I ever drove. I never drove it. Oh, it was, is it like what, what you'd want it to be? It was like driving, I
think I described it like driving a pinball. Because it's just like, it's so little. It's very good. It just changed direction so
fast because it was a GTR with a short wheelbase. But because it was up high, it just was like more tippy, which I like cars to do
that. Yeah, I like the body. I like the body roll. Yeah. It's cool. You can now engineer it out. That's very neat. It's a neat hydraulic trick.
Please, please don't. Yeah. But like, like, the rodeo was just, it was so fun. Yeah. And that's why, like, the Hummer EV to me is just, like,
a joy ride, because I don't know if you, I've told you this or you did it, but like at night, if you floor the Hummer EV,
what the fuck mode? You can't see because the headlights are pointing towards the sky. You have two seconds of, you
cannot see what you're rocketing towards. That's safe. Safe, you know, it's so great. Oh, boy. Yeah. So rodeo thumbs up. I really enjoyed it.
If you, if you put the suspension in sport stiff, the stiffer mode, it does that a little less, but like,
not me. I didn't, you know what? I kept hitting it. It wasn't like, it didn't seem like it was doing anything.
So it's like a little less, but like, not really. But also like, again, Roof, they come up with their own
all-wheel drive system that like, you can like drag it to select where you want it or pop it in
auto. It's insane. Like, when you're on scene, come up. And rear-wheel drive is the good is a good
mode. It's the only way to go is exceptional. I actually really, in even this orange car, the interior
with like the Navajo blanket. You know that Ralph Lauren inspired. I do know it was yes. And, and
the double RL leather and all that I think is double RL leather is really, really nice. The touch.
So the, the giant stitching was, it's like a nod to Freeman Thomas. So Freeman, obviously,
if since 2017, every roof has been designed by Freeman. And so yeah, the giant stitching is the
Audi baseball stitch almost that somebody has in their own car downstairs. Very true. So yeah, it's
all the only thing I don't, there's two things I don't like about this car. One, the electric AC
sucks. Oh yeah, it's all in all roofs. It sucks. It just does because in Germany, you don't need it
the way we need it here. And, and it was the same with that totem GT thing. It used the same unit
and it sucked in that thing too. I just had that mekello's car with the same unit and it sucks.
Yeah. So that sucks. And the steering wheel isn't adjustable. And, and it just, it's too far away.
It's too far away. So I, yeah, I'm, I, I, I, it's probably bad, but I'd like to have steering
those far away. So I thought it was great. But yeah, it should be adjusted. If we don't have
two five million, if you're, and if you're starting from, you're starting from scratch,
like you didn't have, you didn't have to make it that way. But maybe they did, like, maybe
Eloise says going to email me later and go, Hey, we did have to make it this way. And maybe
that's true. But like, I don't know. It, for me, it's, it's not in the right place. And I can't
make it in the right place. And that is a bummer. And it's the only bummer about this entire line of
cars from this, they're all like that. They're all like that. It's not just the rodeo. I think
whatever shape I happen to weirdly be, I'm this, I'm like the buck they designed cars around.
You would not, you wouldn't, the SCR that we drove, you wouldn't have fit in. It was designed for a
small person. And we did not neither. I didn't fit in it, which is normal. And then exactly,
yeah, those are the angle of the seat. It needed to be set up for here, my tank. Okay, maybe.
I don't know, but it was just wasn't quite right. These areas were much more comfortable. The ones
in this rodeo. Very true. These larger size or whatever. And they were sat right. They were great.
But this shot's awesome if you're following along on the video, because everyone's going to
look at the Navajo blankets and all that. But who cares? Look down, look at the carbon fiber
of the tub poking through. I thought there was such a flex like to have. You have both all this
blankets, but really the money is in the carbon fiber show that. It's so cool. It was so cool. I
just loved it. The totem GT super GT also did that same effect with these like big swaths of leather
and houndstooth, but then the tub peeks through around the edges of the floor mats and shit,
I'm like that. And I like how it's not Pagani OCD carbon fiber. It just looks like industrial carbon
fiber, which is so cool. It's not super glossy. And it's also not super book matched and all that
nonsense. It's just it looks like, you know, like you went to the carbon fiber factory and got carbon
fiber. I love this. These cars really kick ass. And I have a I have a client here at the store
who owns a twin turbo one, an anniversary. And owns all all of the blue ship porches,
all the good stuff. And he says it's his favorite to drive. Yeah. And I believe it. It's a
nasty nasty little thing. I drove that SCR a couple years ago that was at the quail. And it was
I mean, first of all, it was just phenomenal. Is that oak green one? Just phenomenal to drive.
Like everything was perfect. And I remember I was getting a little not teary, but like, you know,
I've been reading about rough yellow birds since 1987 or whatever. And like, you know, so we're
we're going. Allows in the seat next to me. And I kind of have a moment. I do like, you know,
the third to fourth shift, like flat, like, you know, whatever that is, like 120 miles an hour. Yeah.
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y'all. That's a really yellow. Shout out to Uncle B. Uncle B. Hooked up your boy here and
Bruce Meyer did a little treat for me and I got to have a real go on Upper Big Tahonga
and it was the right road for that particular vehicle. So we've talked about this before,
but Matt and I have this thing of like big footing each other like, and I had two serons.
Yo, yeah, I was there and the only way to beat two serons is with one OG first yellow bird, right?
That's the only way. There's no other car. I was sitting on the side of the road,
siding up cameras and like, oh, it's not Johnny and two bucadis. Yeah, I was just like, oh man,
you win. And it was hysterical because even the Bugatti people are like, is that a yellow bird?
Yeah, Jamie's like, yeah, and then we're literally supposed to be talking about the
sure on and we're just talking about yellow birds. Yeah, that car was that car fucks you up,
that car way too. I understand why they are millions of dollars.
Six million dollars, right? That one just sold. Yeah, I think. I think six was the highest.
The most recent one I don't think got auctioned like recently. Yeah, but it didn't get that number,
but it wasn't a very good color. It was it was like dark red like like dark red with like
chrome window trim. Like, it's a really yellow bird, but it was like not the best color. It wasn't yellow.
Somebody went and got that one painted black. Yeah. And then the freaking rodeo, which was at the quail
that's not the orange one was a customer car. Black. I was not personally a fan of the rodeo
in the black white Ken block hoonigan scheme. That didn't that didn't do it for me at all. Yeah,
we don't call me and mark about a whole conversation about that where they were like, well, that's
what the client wanted and like fun, but what's saying they should have said no, we just done that
car doesn't do it in black. They say next we're going to do another one for the quail and you can wait
and like they, but they don't realize who they are. You know, there's like this happy family like,
we build fun cars are like, you could say, no, you're not getting black, sir. You can wake you
up black for showing the bright green one. Whatever one. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to do some
science? Yes. Do you want to do some science? Yeah. A little bit of science. So a fan, I forget to
you want me to, I think he wanted he said I could use his name. Yeah. A fan named Andrew works
at the independent stave company. Oh, yeah. He's the director of whiskey research and innovation,
which is that's a fucking job title. Imagine being at a bar. What do you know?
You were the director of whiskey research and innovation. That's a fucking kick ass job.
Like this. And he goes, I think you might like what I do all day, which is whiskey science.
And I and he sent me some experiments, some tasting experiments for us to try. And I've saved
them for since May for you to come back and for us to try them. So we have three different whiskey
tasting experiments. And and we can talk about some other things while we try them. But experiment
one is the same whiskey aged in barrels with different char levels. It's a six year old bourbon.
Perfect. This is fun. And we have a six year char level one versus char level four. Oh,
oh, that's a big difference. It's a big difference. Okay. So we'll start with one. Okay.
And we'll just have a little sipski here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Quick. So it might be interesting. Okay. Here we go. So I'll just forge always that's about half
of this one. So I might be able to do this again with someone else later. So always bears repeating
that bourbon legally has to be made in the United States. So you could make bourbon and Hawaii if
you wanted to somehow should has to be 51% corn has to be aged a minimum. I want to say of three
years has to go into a virgin what not white but virgin oak barrel that has some degree of char
and has to enter at between 100 and 120 proof. So you can't just dump firewater in there. But that's
legally what makes a bourbon the bourbon. And so this char level just nosing right now. So it's
going to be probably make it sweeter. More char will make it sweeter. No, let's let's I think
less char would make it sweeter. It would be more like maybe more vanilla and less oaky flavor. Okay.
I think I do taste vanilla in this. I mean, I'm just vanilla. I have vanilla. It's like kind of
strong. It is. Six year could. Yeah. I mean, again, it could have entered the barrel at 120 proof.
And then as not always 100% but as bourbon sits in barrels, the water evaporates a little bit. And
so it kind of goes through a second distillation. Yeah. And so you can increase the proof. That's a
way to assume all of these are barrel barrel proofs better be better. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Director of
Innovation. All right. Not bad. Oh, that's lovely. Oh, I like that. It's it's it's hot. It's hot.
It's hot. I don't mind the hot but I liked I liked this is great. You guys know,
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All right. Char level four. Let's see. Yeah. So this is the same. Can we taste the difference?
So in other words, the same whiskey goes into two different barrels. Yeah. One is a four, one is the
one. Yeah. So this is more char. So what kind of flavor are more char? I don't want to, well,
are you putting in our head? No, yeah, exactly. The smell and taste at first. I'll give you my expert opinion,
but I've spent a lot of time with this. Well, it really smells different. It smells way different.
Yeah. So a little more like a campfire. I mean, literally more like char.
Let's sugar. So the vanilla flavor in bourbon kind of comes out of the wood out of the oak.
And you also get wood out of the oak flavor. I think more char. I think would give you more oak
flavor. Is that part of why Chardonnay has so much like vanilla flavoring as the oak is sitting?
American Chardonnay. Yeah. They let us sit too long. Did you taste this yet? Can I just say for the record,
fuck, that's delicious. Like that, that is a fabulously delicious bourbon. That's great. Whatever that
is, that's exceptionally good. There's still plenty of vanilla, but there's also like a
cinnamony kind of thing. And oh, that's, that's, that's damn good. That's also like icing.
Maybe get me a fucking bottle of char for. Yeah. Let's go. You know what I mean? Like a little,
it's almost like instead of like vanilla extract, it's like vanilla icing. There's a real
level of, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a rich, like a rich or like a thicker vanilla. Wow,
that's good. Wow. Okay. So this is, yeah, this is great, because a, your experience of b,
like once in a while, I'll get like a five or six year old bottle that is like of this quality.
And it's like, how did they do this? And it's, they picture the bar, the bar, the char. Wow.
But it's also gambling because remember the way it works is they're like, well, we got these barrels,
well, see what happens. Wait six years. Oh, it's really good. Or that's okay. Yeah. You know, so
well, this one, God, is that a winner? That's super good. You know, it got me real excited.
The other day when I started struggling over there. He's like, it's all about. What's all
about? What's what's all about? Did you guys love? I heard about a Porsche Cayenne prototype that
has synthetic gears and EV prototype. Yeah, someone posted about it. It's a Cayenne, not a
fucking Cayman. They're ahead of that. But somebody at Porsche is trying it and you guys like
those synthetic gears. I think it's better than no gears. I think it gives you. I think giving
people not, not for the Cayenne. I don't give a shit about the Cayenne having gears. I care about
the new Cayman having synthetic gears. It's more like it. I don't like it. And what I care about
ultimately is not just synthetic gears. Synthetic gears is the stepping stone to downloadable
car packs. What I want is my EV Cayman to mimic the power to weight gear ratios, etc. of us
550 spider today. Yeah, because you know, I always can sound like you're always in six.
I want the I want the ratios to change with the car. I don't want any sound except for the sound
of the motors. I just don't want any sound. That's fine. You can do that. Yeah, it comes with that
shit. You can always turn it all off. I just, you know, I had a last year a gentleman named Andy
Prunger. I let him grab my Rivian. Yeah. And it was hysterical because he was bitching and
moaning about like all the EV stuff and like, and he drives the Rivian and he's like, why didn't
we do this? He's like, it just, it just, it just sounds like what it is. There's no fake noise.
And I go, yeah, that's what's really good. And he's like, and he's a big truck guy. You know,
he's a redneck. Doesn't he have a fucking ramp? I think he was saying he wants to move to Montana
and like, fly fish when he retires, but he was just like, he's like, this is great. Yeah, that's
great. I don't agree with all EV things, but I, but all EV choices like that went into my,
the fucking tycon I've got. But I do think that for EV, if you're going to try to sell people
on EV sports cars, giving them more ways to engage with the machine is better. They don't have to
use them all the time. But it's, if it's just software and a couple fucking paddles on the steering
wheel and whatever. Yeah. Give it to them. It's more fun. Yeah. I, I, I, I, we were disagreeing
because I drove the Ionic 5N and I was, oh, first of all, it's like, you sampled a, a launcher
and motor. That's the best you could do. Oh, yeah. Well, that's the best Hyundai can do. But
Porsche can take the concept and do a lot better. I agree. But also you're, you're pumping it out of
$45,000 Ionic speakers. So like, it's just kind of again, Porsche can wear my sound. The sound
isn't great. What's important about the sound is it accurately represents what you're doing
with the car. Right. But also I just turned everything off and just had no fake gears. I'm like,
this thing is pretty good. I didn't think it was, I didn't think it was the greatest driving
experience. But I was like, I liked it much better without the gears and without the noises.
Well, you'd be happy to know that at the New York safety track, it's two seconds
of lap quicker with the gears off. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. It also doesn't give you full power
with the gears, right? Because it doesn't, I didn't go on the launch. I know because if you,
if you're using the gears, it builds torque as if it's a gasoline car. Whereas if it's off,
it's just full kill. Yeah. I just like, I like EVs because it's like you just have all this,
like I drove here in this Cadillac Vistik, which is like, yeah, it's about 80% of the way there.
It's pretty good. Is it bigger or smaller than a lyric? It's bigger. It's a three row.
Okay. It replaces the totally awful XT6, which maybe really that was a thing still, wasn't it?
It really made me question, why does GM exist when I show you? Why didn't we save them as a country?
Because it was just such a bad vehicle. And the powertrain was the worst part. It was like a
soulless gutless 3.60. No, the XT, yeah. I didn't even know they still made it. I don't know
what they still do. And it was funny. I put a thing up. I said, you guys don't even care about
because I asked Cadillac for some cars and they dropped this off. I didn't ask for it. I'm like,
you guys want a video of this? It's like over 90% of the response was like, hell yeah.
Really? Okay. And what I like about it, one of the things I like about it is that at the end of
the day, it's 615 horsepower, 650 pound feet of torque, it hits 16 4.3 seconds and no one who
owns it will ever do that. But it's there if you want it. And like there's no gears, there's no
noise. It's just just very nice luxury thing. But it's got that, you know, it does the EV thing when
you need it. So it's, I just like, I don't, I don't need the fake gears. Like it's, I always get back
to it. I wouldn't need it in a fucking crossover. No, you really wouldn't. I just, I only care about
this shit in sport. I don't even wish my TyCon had it. Right. I just in sports cars. All right.
I haven't got the only electric sports car I've really ever driven was the Batista, the 2000
horsepower. That would do perfect in that. I loved it. I just, that, that, that car would be much
more fun if it had effective fucking fake gears. It really was. That car, I didn't, I drove the,
the rematch. Yeah. Yeah. Same shit. Yeah. Yeah. Literally. And when you're being a complete
fucking maniac. Yeah. Yeah. It was amazing. Yeah. And when you're driving like a normal human being,
it's a snooze fest. Well, so the, the, the Batista, what's nice about it is it has a much more of
an interior and it's like a little softer, you know, it's not, because they're not trying to get
all every speed record. And it was like, this wasn't the reason I was saying that about that man.
Well, I was just saying, the, the, the, the, it was like a nice car to drive around. And then
it is nice. And then I floored it. And it was just like, this is so stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, look, credit to Mate and those guys for being able to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I just like, I don't, I don't know if they think this, I just think that like once they got there,
it's, it's for that kind of money, it's not that exciting unless you're doing this thing. Yeah.
It is so illegal. So, I mean, I shouldn't admit this, but I'm sure the statute of limitations
are going, I was just going 128 miles an hour for five minutes on Canaan, because I ran an
eight second quarter mile in Malibu. Yeah. Three times in a row. And nobody noticed. Yeah.
I did an eight second quarter mile once and was like, this is stupid. Yeah. And the video guy was
like, um, if you do it again, I don't know if I can be in the car. I was like, I don't know if I
can be in the car or should do it. Yeah. No, that's why the third one to go our vomit after
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but more whiskey. Okay. Yeah. But, um, I, I want to try this
mystic thing. It's cool. I mean, it's a three or a small optic optic. Optics kind of dope. That's
kind of, that's the one I really want to try. You should. Um, so the optic, what's cool about it is
the dude, I'm blanking on his name, such a nice guy. And I'm so sorry if you're listening,
mister, he wrote around with me and Emmy Hall on the launch. Um, he'd really tried to make it
sporty. He really like, you know, he built it to a budget. There will be an optic V that will
actually get Magnoride chopstick the property. Um, but like it's, it's really fun. It's a little
as little as it's EVs will ever get, you know what I mean? Like he's just for a lot of reasons.
The size of a model while or whatever. It's a model wise size. Yeah. And that was this one's not bad.
And it's better looking. I like this one. Yeah. I'm not sure what's happening at that, that
behind the C pillar. The, the, the Vistich has it to just Cadillac's thing. Yeah. It's,
all right. Yeah. But very good looking. Also, you're a music fan. Um, and I'm going to say this
and everyone's going to call me horrible, but I hate Elton John. I've never liked his music.
Can't stand it. But this has the first real physical implementation of Dolby Atmos. Uh-huh.
Cadillac's will get it. Mercedes offers Atmos. I think my ravine has that. I just, I just,
are you? Yeah. But when I say physical, it means that they worked with Dolby and they put the
speakers with Dolby told them the speakers need to go to fully experienced. And the guy played me
rocket man. The Atmos remix. And I do not like Elton John. I agree with the bad guy in the rock
when he goes, you ever heard the rocket man in my Elton John? He goes, I hate weak ass shit.
But fucking blew my mind off that shit. I don't know. It was that stuff. That shit.
You know, this should come at me in a Michael Bayline mother fucker. Okay. But, but it blew my mind.
I'm not a teenager. I hate my father syndrome going on here. The implementation of Atmos in this
look. I love a great stereo. Like they had to, like, here's the thing, the, the grab handle,
they had to fuck up the grab handle on the object to put the speaker there. So the grab handles in
the dumbest place possible. Oh, on the A pillar. Yeah. It's horrible. But it's like the Bronco. Yes.
But they did it for reasons that they put a speaker. So Dolby said you have to put the speaker.
All right. And it's, it's so good. The Vistig doesn't have you. All Cadets will get it for
26-wattle year. They'll get the, the new speaker implementations. You should get one. I'll try.
You should get the Vistig. But you really do is get the escalade IQ because that's the dopest of all
cars. I'm telling you. Yeah. I don't care that much. You would bet. Let's remember many years
ago. You said, what car should my dad get? He got an escalade. It was the biggest piece of shit
you've ever seen. Okay. I'm, it was, but remember, we had a lot. We had a long conversation
about insanely problematic. Remember, we had a long conversation about what car should, uh,
uh, pop a fairy get. Yes. It's the, it's the, it's the escalade IQ. If you sell that car to him,
you are the best salesman. I will sell it. I will sell it. I will sell it. Experiment number two.
This is the same whiskey aged on different floors of a Kentucky warehouse.
The same floors. Uh-huh. This, uh, this is the ground floor. Okay. We are on the floor. So,
I'm going to make a prediction without tasting it. Um, ground floor doesn't get very hot.
Top floor gets very, very hot. Okay. Kentucky, uh, you know, when it gets really, really hot,
you get a lot of like the, uh, whiskey moving in and out of the wood. You know what I mean? Uh-huh.
So ground floor is more water evaporate too. All that, but also just more, it's, it literally
goes into the woods. It's just more, more contact with the woods. There's a liquid expands. Yeah.
Just, just the heat moves. Yeah. Over, over, over the more spongy. Yeah. I just, the more heat
there is, the more extraction and it gets cold, it gets forced out of the wood. Um, cool.
So the, the, the honey spot, the honey hole or the honey pot, as they call it sometimes, um,
it's rarely ever on the ground floor. It's usually like, there's a certain spot in the distillery
tends to be towards the roof where like the best whiskey comes from. So again, literally the
same barrels cut from the same tree, you put one on the fifth, on the bottom floor, you put one five
stories up or eight stories up, depends on the rickhouse radically different. Just because of the
temperature fluctuate, heat rises, all that. That's awesome. Closer to the sun. Do, do larger
commercial distilleries, climate control the place to make it more. He didn't have the option.
Honestly, like beam was probably like the largest, they don't at all. In fact, in fact, most
rickhouses are kind of open to the elements, like they're not really sealed. And like they,
like you couldn't drop something straight into it, but if they have like slats that are offset,
like that, they want it open, uh, mixtures, who's a relatively small, super climate controlled,
but they raise and lower the temperature manually. Oh, and so they're like, yeah, I hate claims
like this, but like what we can do in 10 years takes another distillery 20 year. Sure. But it's just,
it's very controlled. They're very scientific, like like mixtures is the guys who are lab coats. It's
wild. It's nothing like, it's nothing like you want to go to Kentucky and like, you know,
you want to see like a dude sitting in the, you want to see the cracker barrel logo, right? But
you got to make sure it's like, it's, uh, it's scientists, like being geeks. Because they're
trying to recreate the elements of nature or the effects. I don't know what they're saying. They
just do it their way. You know what I mean, it's not, it's not even that. It's just like, like
before I went to mixtures, I would always say 90% of the flavor in bourbon is from the wood.
And I went to mixtures. And I'm like 40% of the flavor is from the wood because they actually
handed me white dog, which is, you know, an aged bourbon that tasted like bourbon, but it was made
in their method. How interesting. Yeah. So it's like, you should totally, and it's like, normally
white dog is so gnarly, I can't taste anything, but fire literally tasted like bourbon without vanilla.
That's crazy. Yeah. But they have their methods and they filter and they do all this stuff.
So this tastes very cinnamon-y to me. Lots of cinnamon. Oh, this is fireball.
I know. This is fancy fireball. Okay. So this is, my prediction is we're going to like the,
the roof one. This is, um, you think this is setting us up for the other one, which is actually good.
This is not good in any way. It's very, like rubbery. This tastes like cleaning solution. Yeah,
you really, really, like, I get to clean my lens. Yeah, you got to rinse out your glasses. That's
all finished is not good. That is a cinnamon stick. I, but also like, you know, there's higher
alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very, exactly. Yeah. This one was a cruel trick, Andrew. You jerk.
That one, uh, second sip was not brown floor. That one sucks. That was not. It's all from
the ground floor. All right. Well, let's see what's happening on the fifth floor. And this is still a
six year. Exactly. Do you not hear you want an empty bottle? I want to get too late. But this, so
this is this is a six year whiskey that's now four year old. Oh, okay. Also four year,
four year bourbon's gonna be a little rough like that. Okay. Yeah. Well, let's see. Andrew,
next time six year, different floors. Let's see him on the fifth floor. Is any kinder? Yeah.
Dip smell good. Just smell the bad smell. Like a cinnamon stick. And then it tasted like
cinnamon sticks syrup with floor cleaner. I mean, it smells better. All right.
Much better.
It's way better. It's still harsh. But you get you get a candy. And you get the vanilla
pulled out of your tongue, Johnny. Get a callus on there. Yeah. But you're getting. I thought you
like the harsh stuff. Like you bring the strong barrel. I like it. I like delicious. That was gross.
That was pine salt. The stringent. But it was like it was like it was like it was like this one's
personal. I see what you mean. This one's harsh. This is like that harsh, but like you add
vanilla and caramel to it. Right. And you get the caramel from the char of the wood. And you get
the vanilla. It's better, but only just. By the way, by the way, number of good four year old
bourbons I've had in my life is about three three. I just added like just a couple milliliters
of water to see if it. This is why I drink gin. It does not make it better. No, it does not
make it better. This is an irredeemal little barrel. All right. We have one more. We'll
wait a few minutes. Here, this is the spittoon. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm looking at my list here.
Helicopter. Wait. Yeah. All right. Why not? Helicopter. He wrote down helicopter. What does that
mean? October 11th is a big, big reopening. Yeah. I'll be I'm I'm seeing the cars and coffee.
I officially got invited. Oh, but they also invited Spike and Mr. Zuckerman and Zuckerman of course
these were their demands. Well, Zuck no really Zuckerman said no. And they said, what if we helicoptered
you? Sam said this. Yeah. And they said, oh, fine. And and then Spike's like, you're on the helicopter.
And I'm like, I don't really want to be on the helicopter. I kind of want to drive. But
Mazda's like, you should go on the helicopter and just have your car ship there. Sure. I suppose
if that's that's that's the thing you could do. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll be there with with those
two fabulous. Yeah. October 11th. If you're in LA or San Diego or driving distance of either
please come come hang out with us at all of Springs. We're going to be doing a live show.
There will be a cars and coffee with with it is actually it's car it's a cars and coffee concourse
I suppose because it's actually going to be judged. Oh, really? With some prizes. We're going to
have some some prizes that are pretty cool. There's going to be some motorsport exhibition
meaning like they're have some they're pulling out some really cool vintage historic race cars.
They're going to be running some singer like turbo DLS is there's going to be some exhibition
racing. It's going to be fun. So yeah, Mazda's saying that I could drive which is cool.
Something something on track. Yeah. So for sure. So I'm trying I think I want to get because I
think what's the most anti-singer thing possible and not a guntherics too obvious. That would just
be me. Yeah, I'm going to try and get it like a ZR one. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They're full. Yeah,
it would be fun. Yeah. These are cool. It's the opposite. You know, it's a mass market. It's
too cheap and the interior's not singer. Did you go on the launch? Yeah. I'm going to drive
everyone in two weeks for performance car of the year. Oh cool. I'm pretty excited. Yeah. I
I had a long talk with Chevy. I'm like, remember when like every no one liked Camaro and I like
the Camaro. Like you guys should give me cars again. Like I don't know if they're sending us the
X or the regular one. But they need they need to sit down and they need someone to say zero
one good zero one X fax machine. That's a terrible name. Yeah. Yeah. No, the name is not great. The
name is just so yeah. Come on. Zora was cool. Why not Zora? It's cool. But also like they need
to get over like like I have all these people like asking me questions like, do I should I get
the LT one or the LT two? I'm like, all right. Those names turn me off. So much has like a half a
century of awful naming. But like it's weird because like zero one good L88 good zero one X
terrible. I don't know. Dude, you know what? For their all their faults, Dodge can name a
fucking car. Dodge can name a car. Yeah. They are a faulty company selling silly products.
Hey, but man can they come up with good as name and stuff. You know, hell cat. Red eye.
Like it's great. It's great. That's how the you know how to sell a car. I want that's why I was
I was I was I did that I drove them a Kello's thing, which is really really good. The what?
My Kello's. What is a my car? I drove one of their cars before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Years ago. That's it. That's in that green thing. Oh, that's a my Kello's. And it's a Porsche.
It's a it's a 72 9.11. Uh huh. This company in Escondito down San Diego. They are excellent at
what they do. The problem is it's called McKellus. I drove the they made a bluebird. They literally made
a a rough yellow bird. They got a roof gearbox. They got a yellow bird gearbox. And you know,
the the yellow bird made 469 horsepower. Their car made 470. It was awesome. But I couldn't
remember the name of the company. I'm always like I drove this thing. I don't know. Like it's so
funny. So this is a 72 ST. Yeah. So it's it's it's it's a it's a it's sort of a three two. It's
punched out to three five. Uh huh. Um it's it's fucking great. It's just like. Is it a back date
based on a job? It's a 70. It's a 72. It's a 72. I shouldn't take a picture from the other side.
It like instead of the oil flap. Yeah. They they because they put as they put wider ST fender
flares on it. So they got rid of the flap and they just have a it has it has like the kind of
seen this photo. But it has the you know, the singer style center fuel. Uh huh. So they did a
miniature version of that for the oil. It says. Oh yeah. It says oil in German. Oh yeah. It's cool.
It's cool. They shouldn't call it the ST. They got to change the name. Michele. Like it's sued.
It's just it's just it's a vocative of nothing. Like Michele's like what? It's not true. Yeah. I
don't know. I'm not sure. The name doesn't mean anything. But it's a lovely like clean looking car.
So good. I was talking to Glocker. Glocker drove. I was talking to Glocker. Your party last night.
Like we just love this car. This is every air cooled it's I ever had this car would scratch sadly.
It's it's 450 because that's what cars cost these days. Well, it's it looks. I mean,
just a lot of the interior looks light and simple. Yeah. Check out the interior. Like it's woven
awesomeness. The seats look great. Seats are going to fit in the ship. You would fit. You would fit. I
hate these force folks steering wheels. I am not I am not about that force spoke life. Yeah.
They remind me of Disneyland. Like you know, it's car ride. That's a ride racer. That's a ride racer.
But I was like, I was talking I'm that's an easy thing to change. I mean, you know, that's easy.
The only thing you want. Of course they will. I just I happen to hate these force. They won't do that.
But in like it's like good. It's like it's like a 996 GT3 intake plenum. Yeah.
There's all kinds of cool stuff in the motor. But I was like change the name of the company to Mulhound.
It's it's it's it's based on a it's based on nothing based on like it. No, no, the engine.
Is it is it a 993? It's a 32. So it's a it's a it's a career. Yeah, it's a career.
32 punched out to 35. But it's like it's like again, it's like it has a 996 intake plenum and
a GT3 intake plenum. It has like 993 turbo this. Oh, it's great. Oh, it's it's such a great car.
And I had Magnus drive it. And so he drove it from his warehouse to the shell station. He's like,
I might it's nothing. Bubba. Yeah, I've driven a million cars like this. Nothing special about it
at all. I was like, yeah, I like driving it around town. But I hear you're saying we went up on the
crest and he's just riffing back and forth. And and despite what anyone might think Magnus can drive
and love it. Like he's fast. Yeah, he's fast. And he comes and he's like, oh, Mike's a lot better
speed, isn't it? You know, I was like, yeah, it really is like it's it's and it's big fat sidewalls,
you know, like the ride quality is awesome. And it's just a great car. You should totally put
your hand up and be like, McCellus, let me make a video with this car. It's great. So the problem
is with for making a video is with this. I'll just review it driving around for Instagram whatever they
really the nuances of one Porsche to another never really come through. That's awesome. I have
four custom Porsches in a row. I drove it so much. I drove it so many a few years ago. This thing,
which was. Oh, that thing. And the name is tear you that's that's right. Zach drove it. I drive it.
It was like on dial parts on it. Yeah, it was quick. Was it cool? It was cool and quick. And I drove
there. They had like an RS R27 replica thing. I drove it. It was like an art car. It was done
pretty well. Now I would I will admit I did a video of that when I drove it. It was like the first
air cold Porsche I ever drove. So experts and they have problems with that car don't come at me
bro. But this thing was my introduction to the 930 had modern tires. It was like 400-ish horsepower
and it was a really fun time felt as precise as any old Porsche does. And I think they do
pretty high quality work, especially their bodywork stuff. They do metal fenders. They got to they
got to come up with an identity because it's not it's not enough like McCellus. It's just a bad name
and the guy Max. I figured it's the last name. It's not McCellus. I don't know why it's oh. Yeah
really that's the name that was made up. I don't know. I don't know. But like I said Mulholland
just be Mulholland. It's an M. And like it's evocative. It means something to poor people. Yeah,
you gotta figure that one out. Yeah, but like they do such good work. Like I've driven two of them now
and I love them both. But I can't remember McCellus. I don't even know to spell it. It sounds like a
diner. Oh, it was started by someone named Tom Mule. Yeah. Mark and Mark Stracke. I mean,
yeah, no one there is named. Why are you because it's not good. It does sound like I'm gonna order a
gyro. However, but wasn't it like there's a lot of names that are famous now because it was a
combination of like three engineers. But McCellus and you know, it ain't it. You don't but like
like Gunther Works is totally made up and contrived in silly, but it works. It's smart. Yeah,
it's this thing. It sounded a little silly in the beginning and I said it started saying it a few
times and now I sort of take it for okay, it's a thing. Yeah, they had to come with the story.
Do you know the Gunther story? Yeah, okay. Like they had to come with something, you know,
and so it works. So they came up with something German. Well, but it was there was a guy named Gunther.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like okay, that's like very nobody at Gunther
working at Gunther Works. There's no one German. There couldn't be a less German company. It's
as far as I know it's like Middle Eastern Scottish and Chinese. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it works.
It's a good cross section of Southern California. Mohon. You know, they're in San Diego. You
call the fucking cars Mohon. I feel bad. I don't know which time crapping on their name. I
hope they build nice cars. They build seriously great names and easier thing to change and build
building shitty cars. Don't call it the ST. Call it something. It's make, you know, look at the web.
I mean, they look at their website. Their website's fucking. That's a geo city. It's not. Oh, it's not.
No, that's flat six. This is flat six. Oh, sorry. They're at their website. No, no,
this. Yeah, that's the website I'm talking about. Oh, that's that's that's I think that's the
car intro. That's the yellow bird. Oh, the blue bird. No, that one is that one looks looks pretty
uh, Stancy looks good. Ducktail. You would love this guy like a 934 from a front bumper on it.
You would love this car. It was probably. But it was one of those things. I drove it.
I wrote about it. I said I much I loved it. I couldn't remember what it was called.
That's the problem. You had one job. Oh, yeah. Two jobs. We have we have about the car.
It's an easy thing to fix, but we do have a problem. Yeah. So good stuff. That is geo cities and
that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Um, should we try experiment three? I think so at this point. Yes.
Sparement three is this will be interesting. Okay. Hmm. This looks like the pace of someone who has
a kidney issue. Oh, boy, experiment three for people watching. Well said listening,
rather is a same two years aged. It's the two year. It says two years. It's not in legally
bourbon. That's just an American whiskey, which is going to be gross, but good. Well, we're going
to a tiny little bit. There's a tiny tiny. Yeah. Yeah. Kentucky versus Scotland. Oh,
yeah. I love like an eight year Kentucky versus Scotland. Well, this is what we have. So,
so what does that mean though? She climate effects the same whiskey age and identical barrels
matured in different parts of the world. I too. It's also hard to understand both. I don't know,
but I assume he sent something where we would actually be able to taste the difference, right?
So we're going to start with Scotland. What's the guy's name? Andrew Andrew. Do it again
with an eight year. He can't skip it out. A two year. A two year. Like, I don't know.
I think we did a director of whiskey research. It's pretty. It's cool though. Actually, it doesn't
get to smell bad at all. It doesn't smell bad. I don't need extra. I know. I'm just you seem like
you didn't have enough. I can use a little more. When you're tasting something,
if you have like two little, it kind of evaporates on your lips, so you don't get to like swallow it.
I think you need two sips. Yeah. Like, that's you need to leave that one set. You don't. All right,
so this is Scotland. Actually smells nice. So I was like, Scotch, you get like that canned vegetable
smell. You don't want to think, well, all scotch to me always has like canned vegetables. That's the
most talking. But that's why I don't like Scotch. This doesn't taste that bad. It's got a little
more peat in it. It does. It does. Actually, I don't think it has peat in it, but it does taste scotchy.
No, not to you guys. If I order this, I would drink this and never think about it again,
as long as I live. No, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Yeah. Good. Yeah. But like,
compared to what we've been drinking, it tastes more like Scotch. So this tastes like
bourbon. So, so, so, second half tastes like burnt marshmallow though. So, so remember,
so, it was on the first half though. It was Scotchish. And then the turn or like the river,
it's like very, no, like, we're not rating this for fucking bourbon spectator. So, it's like,
it does taste more like this. So, what I believe is happening here is we have a,
well, maybe one day be a bourbon. Can't be a bourbon because it's only two years old.
So, it's corn based, which was sent to Scotland to age. So, it means there's no heat. There's
nothing, nothing. It went to boarding school. And also, I kind of kicked out of it. I'm sending you
to military school. I would also guess though. I would also guess this was put in new barrels
in America and sent to Scotland to age. Yeah. Scotch is only made mostly, 90 over 90% is made in
use bourbon barrels. So, they've been cycled once. So, the vanilla, the sweet you're picking up,
is you never get that out of a Scotch. Okay. So, you suspect that this experiment had an American
barrel sent to Scotland. Yeah, they filled it up in America and they sent it to Scotland to age.
By all those easts. So, it's a virgin oak barrel. I like this game. I want Andrew to respond
truthfully because it'd be cool if you pick it out. Yeah, yeah, I'm almost positive. But yeah,
it's kind of gross. Because with wine, French oak adds a lot of the vanilla flavor,
not American oak. They have different taste profiles. Yeah, also the French just, they don't like...
Stefford wives love butter bomb chardonnay. I don't know what else to tell you.
There's no, because you get a French chardonnay is delicious. They can't treat themselves to
candy and desserts and stuff all the time. They're always on a diet. They're getting it from the
shirt. I'll tell you off air how true that is. But like, you know, champagne, like really good
champagne, all champagne, French champagne is mostly chardonnay grapes. You know what I mean?
It's like the grapes are delicious. Yeah. Like the best thing I've ever put my mouth ever,
Krueger 88. Do you have a chance? Oh, dude. I was with Koblitz and Koblitz was rolling.
Any bottle of Krueger 88, which... What's... So, okay, we'll hear it big question.
We're now... I'm with Zach. 88 is now like... That's old, old. That's now a long
fucking time ago. Is that beyond drinkable? It's not? I was at a dinner because I tried to
DOM 88 that was turned. Oh, even though it had been kept. It could have. I just had a very
kind friend of mine sent me a bottle of 1980, Dom Perignon, because my wife was born in 1980
for birthday and god damn, that was good. Really? Yeah. Maybe this is just this bottle. Yeah,
it depends how it stores a lot of it, but like... My parents can't be trusted to do the right thing.
Yeah, when it comes to wine. It's stored vertically. It's game over with white wine. It's like
the year. Well, you wanted to know that. Oh, it wouldn't have been stored vertically, but like,
look, Zach, you know my parents. They don't drink. They don't drink and they couldn't.
They could choose. They can't be trusted to take the perfect care of something. We put the
one outside for the summer. They're not hopeless, but they whatever extra care that bottle would have
needed, they wouldn't have done it. I looked up. Champagne is very high in acid, and that protects
it over a long period of time. Versus if you try to store like, Sav Blanc or Chardonnay or something
like that for a long time, even outside, it's probably more likely to go bad. Yeah, I mean, so, so,
you know, the preservative in wine, there really isn't any except for the alcohol. So white wines tend
to be lower alcohol than red wines, so they just don't age as well. And, you know, beer that's
heavily hopped can age a long time. Budweiser cannot age. Budweiser over 30 days old. It just turns
in the can. One day old is bad. Yeah. Fresh Budweiser tastes like green jelly ranchers. Pretty good.
You know, you're a good chance. Yeah. I want to go to help fresh to have me to get that.
Real fresh. Or you're talking about going to the brewery. If you can figure out like they
they found it and they they sent it to the liquor store across the street. Like, it's called a
seedle out of hide. It's just a flavor component that the yeast kicks off. And you get it, you know,
just get a fresh Budweiser. Pretty tasty. I couldn't tell you the last time. I must have been
college where I drank an actual raw dog Budweiser. There was a moon knot. This is not because I'm a
beer snob. I'm not a beer snob. Yeah. Why would you buy it? Yeah. Why would I ever buy a Budweiser?
I don't know. I almost had a beer show at one point in my life. And one of the segments,
one of the segments I wanted to do was I wanted to get the physical ingredients of like,
all right. So, you know, they make Budweiser in like a billion gallon batches. But like, okay,
here's what is actually in a can of beer. Here's the amount of grain. And Budweiser is also like,
it's like, it's like 66 percent grain, 33 percent rice or something like that. Here's the amount of
hops. And then get like Budweiser next to Stella, next to Cours, next to it. And it would literally
be like, oh my God, they're all exactly the same. There's no difference in ingredients at all
between like mainstream fizzy loggers. It's like literally, they hop them just to the point of human
perception of hops. So if you could taste the bitterness, they go down one level because the hops are
just a cheap preservative. Yeah. And they're all all same. Budweiser uses rice. And I think I think
100 percent of the rice crop of Mississippi is used by Budweiser. And Cours and Miller use corn
as an adjunct. And everyone else uses corn. So yeah. And then Japanese beers use rice as an adjunct
for for loggers. Yeah. Japanese beer, I mean, too. Yeah. Do love me. Can be good. Do love me
support. They use rice. Do love me a Kirin. If I were to show you like Kirin light, I like a lot.
If I were to show you a pile of Kirin ingredients and a pile of Budweiser, you'd be like, well,
it's the same beer, the same thing, the same thing. Yeah. I am easily influenced by
labels. Let's do the two-year Kentucky tasting. All right. Let's see. Because the last one,
honestly, the second sip, the second half of the second sip was very bad. I think we should have
gone from two years to six years. Yeah. We're in and out. We're in and out. But we're in two years
to six years. It's it's it's Scotland. No, he's saying we should have started with the two-year
Scotland Kentucky worked our way up to the six years. I did it. He sent me one, two, three. And I
didn't order it was provoked. I had no I had no agency here, dude. I can't not follow the
instructions. Life is predetermined, man. But so again, what's the difference? It gets real hot
in Kentucky and they probably get about the same cold because it does snow in Kentucky and get
real bitterly cold. And Scotland, you know, it's not icy, but it gets cold. It seems to get different
color, but it gets me or does it seem like a different color? It seems darker. It seems darker.
Because yeah, because it'll have more contact with the hot. Yeah, going in and out. I would guess.
Smells far more woody. I know that's not great. Whoa, way different. It smells far more gross.
It doesn't smell good. It smells like a lot different though. It smells like medicine.
Kind of cough syrupy. Take this. You have a cough. Yeah, cough syrupy.
But it's like the best bourbon smell like the best syrup. The best one's just smell like that.
They don't taste like it, but from there, it's all downhill. Oh, shit. That's not good.
This smells like this tastes like frenet bronca. Oh god. It's it's not good. It's not good.
No, all right. That's lousy. Nevertheless, man, what do we learn? Char four six year old. Yeah,
that was good. This guy, this right here. Mr. Andrew, if you're listening, send me a DM
and tell me what distillery that came from. This is the bottle. We're going to celebrate
that we've completed the experiment by finishing the second half of the only thing
in here that actually really tasted great. Yeah, that was really, really good.
Does that work for you, Zach? Yeah, yeah. I sort of appreciate. I mean, look, we were able to
taste differences from these experiments. Dude, one of the wildest, most just amazing moments
in my life was I did this crazy video with Bentley and I went to the Bentley distillery and I
got to hang out with the master distiller at McCallan. It was just so enlightening because what
they do, what this guy does, and now it's a woman, but every day is they get like a hundred or
hundreds of samples of just barrels, right? And what they do there is they water them down to 20%
alcohol. So they're, you know, barrel strength is probably 53% with scotch and they water them down
to 20% because they never, ever, ever taste. That's it. So with bourbon, you taste with scotch,
you smell and they smell and so they're like McCallan tenure. There's 20, 20 different barrels
make up a bottling of McCallan tenure and you need to have four that smell like grass and you need
to have four that smell like wheat or whatever and they just smell all day and then if something is
like, oh, that's good. Like put that one back and maybe it can be part of a 12 year. Wow. Oh, it sucks.
That becomes famous grouse and like, oh, that's exceptional. That we might put into like the 20 year
program. And it's just all the same shit just based on vibe, but they just smell. Yeah. And so like
25% of human beings are super tasteers. They have a better sense of smell and taste some other people.
They find in Scotland, they find you in high school, you know, and they say, hey, you want to maybe
do this. Like you can start sweeping up at the distillery and like maybe one day you'll become the
master distiller. How do they find it? Do they have a restaurant out in the mountains? They
like, you know, they they cook burgers and then someone who wandered over there, like you find
this literally because it's such a part of the economy. They literally administer it. Like,
you know, you took the SAT. They take a taste test in Scotland. It's the it's the the nsat. It's
the nasal the nasal skills aptitude. And it was it was so wild because I got to sit there and smell
like all these different things. And why do they smell but Kentucky taste? Is that alcoholism?
It's alcoholism. Yeah, we don't waste it down here. We're underpain in this country. He's like, I'm
going to drink it. You know, you know, it's yeah, it's just it's just culturally different. But
also like, you know, like if you go to McCallum, they make a McCallum 10, 12, 15. Now they make like a
17, 18. There's a 21. There's a 25. And there's a 30. And like if you go to like, you know,
mixtures, they make like a couple different things. But really, like, there's not that much this,
you know, this is not much to do as much. And so they they're just like, they don't want to drink it.
I don't know. It works the same. You get the same end result. I wonder if they realize genuinely
like, you know, you're all factory like your nose glands, they can reset. But if you're sipping,
does it as your palate retruely reset? Do you slowly get a little bit drunk? Does it have a cause?
It's got a little bit drunk and it's got a linger a little longer, too. Yeah. That said,
though, I've picked barrels with masters of stillers at, you know, Kentucky distilleries. I'm like,
it's way more fun to taste. Yeah. Smelling 20% alcohol mixes like, do you know who the fuck gets
into the booze business and not get a little shitty at the fuck. Now hang on. Now hang on. Let me
back this up and also say that we went to it. So there's if you look at a bottle of McCallum,
there's a house on it, the Easter Elkie's house. When we walked in, they go, they go, your country
was founded in 1776. This house was built in 1700. They like to tell us that. Yeah. And then we sit
down how we know that about ourselves. And then it's not over there. It's not white dog. It's
it's called something else or maybe it's here. It's white lightning over there. It's white dog.
Yeah. They had that. That's more sense. But then they had 15, 15, 18, 21, 25 year old McCallum
with dinner. So we're drinking that. And then we retire up to the study. And the women will go,
there's no way to trust me. This is this is cars and whiskey. There's no women anywhere. No
of us have had sex for a year years. And and the fucking board. That's how we got all these whiskey.
So this I'm blanking on his name because it was his job title. I'd give anything to smell
panties again. That's Irish. I don't know. Yeah. But this guy's job title was Master of
Maltz from a talent. That was his job title. And he goes, yeah, open the cabinet. Any two bottles
you see. We'll drink those. I opened up this two 30 year old bottles. Fine oak and selectes.
And I was like, these. He's like, oh, dude, you know, fucking hammered. Like all the
disposable income with no relationship. And I'm saying I spent the night there. I spent the night
the Easter's okay. So you had twice, you know, he what he's trying to say is he passed out of the floor.
He was curled up with the golden retriever.
Allow me to finish. Allow me to finish. Johnny in the sheep. So that's 30.
So I don't know why they're Irish all of a sudden. The rest of my crew bitches out goes to bed.
We're all sleeping in the house. So it's me and this guy. So he goes, show Johnny.
Have I convinced you? There's Macala not the most aristocratic beverage you can drink.
And I said, yeah, I'm blanking on his name. Such a nice guy. I go, yeah, it's good. I got to tell you,
um, I'm more of a Birmingham, but I still like Highland Park. I love Highland Park. I was like,
it's a part to Chicago. And he goes, he goes, me too. He goes, he could never, never, ever tell this
steep secret. But Macala and bought Highland Park. There's a whiskey barrel with a plant on it.
Pulls the plant off, opens the lid of the whiskey barrel, pulls out a 40 year bottle of Highland Park.
And we fucking drink. And we crawled up on our elbows and knees to our roots like,
yeah. So if you're ever there, pick up the plant, hang on. And then, and then had to get up at 6 a.m.
and film. Oh, God. Oh, I haven't had one of those days in a very long time. This was 13, 14 years ago.
What is Highland Park? I don't know. Anything. Highland Park is just, it's an island,
Island whiskey. So Macala and his space side, very clean, no peat whatsoever. Highland Park,
it's just very northern. And I think there's a little bit, it's a little bit peter, but it's not
Lafroy, or it's not Lafroy, or Gladi or anything. It turns my whole body into a campfire. Yeah.
Once a decade, nice to have a glass of Lafroy. Yeah. Yeah. Island Park's just the shizz.
Look at this photo of this jacket. This horse just, like a mini horse.
Google, Google mini horses wearing clothing. Have you seen this? I've seen mini horses on airplanes,
which is also where Scotland, because tourism's down, they're, they're dressing up. They're
mini horses and clothes trying to get people to come to Scotland. Don't know what you got to do.
Instagram. Yeah. Look. Oh, my God. The power of the rabbi, the power of a young lady who sees a
cute animal in her ability to buy a plane ticket. I tell you. So Scotland fucking rules. Remember
when we were going to go to Scotland? We had the best plan. We had the best plan. We were,
we were going to drive the, we were the only two people, whatever they got invited to drive
that evoluto thing. Yeah. 355. I love it. You remember names of things. And we were going to,
yeah, and they invited us to Scotland in June. It was in June. Now it's August,
it was invented. They invited us three times. Yeah. Yeah. I hope we get to do it. But we were also
going to go shoot skeet at the Jackie Stewart sporting place. But much more importantly,
we're going to drink a lot of whiskey at the, uh, at the, at the, at the finest whiskey room in Scotland.
It's very, very sick. I cannot wait to get back to Zach is deep in the
Zach. I told you. Look at that guy. We have one 60 D there.
The six, six, six, sorry, 1680 D. Look at this guy. That horse looks terrified.
The horse has been doing cocaine, lad. He's right. He's a cool music.
Fuck me. Uh, good news. Uh, before we get to, we got some patreon questions. I'm sure we do.
Definitely. Before we get to them, my Lamborghini engine is in America. Oh, no kidding. Oh,
wow. It's part of America. It's a big tent. It's the port of Long Beach.
Oh, that's close to the tennis port of Long Beach. There are no tariffs because after much and
much back and forth, I was able to convince people that I, in fact, already owned this engine.
Right. It was not a new car. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. I wish Amazon could have your power
couldn't wait too long to be like, you don't understand around. This is already my edge.
Couldn't you just say, like, look at the carburetors and they go, oh, carburetors. That's old. Yeah.
It doesn't have carburetors. It doesn't feel injected. Oh, I thought. Okay. Yeah. But,
but either way, it's here. That's great. It's here and it's so how long? We don't know. We don't
know. We don't know. But because who's getting it? It's going to go to Damian at Franco's
European sports cars the way to do it. But Damian has like two projects ahead of me.
But he was kind enough to agree to receive the engine in the crate. So at least I don't
have to do the double shuffle with that. Have you been there? It's small. I know. Have you seen
the old guy with the shims? Yeah. He walked in. There's an old tie dude with like, I don't know,
260 shims on a keychain. Yeah. And he's got like, you know, quarter mill, fifth of a mill,
whatever. And he could shim all the old Ferrari. This is how you said valves. Yeah. Fortunately,
like my cars shouldn't need a valve adjustment for at least like 15 years at this point.
Better not. You know, I saw a video on the dyno is running was running smooth. They didn't actually
like measure the power, but they ran it on an engine dyno to like, you know, I mean, sure. It's 86.
It's supposed to be 475, oh, 88, 475, 475. Something like that. Mine's injected. So I think it's 445,
not 475. But whatever. Yeah, that's enough for it. So you know, we tried to do the semi euro conversion
and they couldn't do it. Now they couldn't because they were like kind of like, I don't know what they
told you. But in 88, like there's no actual difference between a euro and a US car. But the
injected cars, unless you like fully convert them to euro, which actually means different heads
and a different compression ratio. Like you just like, you can't do it. Like you can't do like
just cams without this other shit. Right. You can't do just this without that. So he's like,
the best we can do is make it like the most optimized that it could possibly be. Perfect. What
it is. And Damien's great. He keeps those cars coming along. Just fine. I'm driven a lot of his
cars. He's good. The real question is, what part will be missing? We're going to find out
that something is missing. And I don't know what it is. And it's going to be a very interesting
thing to find out. I mean, the Contas V12 probably has the most parts of any engine.
Well, the engine is complete. We look engine and gearbox are complete. So nothing in the engine
is missing. But like the whole suspension is disassembled. The whole wiring is disassembled.
The whole the wiring is disassembled. The wiring. That's going to be the killer.
We'll see. Yeah. Good luck. I wish you luck. We'll wish you luck. It's going to be
it's going to be an adventure. Um, if I may before we get to. Yeah, what do you got? Oh,
you got your event coming. Cars and coffee. So me and saying, uh, we've been doing this cars
and coffee quarterly now. It's looking like it. This is the third or the fourth one. It's going to
be the third. Okay. I couldn't come to the second because I think I was in Italy. It was everyone's
out of town. It was actually really fun. It was really nice. It was, it was, um, I won't name names,
but it was, it was the day of the, uh, the, the, the riot in downtown LA. A lot of people are like,
I don't think I can risk coming. I'm like, yeah, yeah, man. Like, and like, I was just like,
I feel it. Yeah. 15 miles from the two blocks, where, where people,
but um, which is objectively funny, even if you're a leftist. Yes. Yes. Yeah. The way more
if you're like, it was great. But, um, we got cars and bids. Uh, came on as a sponsor.
That's awesome. Which is really, and they reached out. I didn't have to do anything. And they were
like, Hey, we like what you're up to. This is our kind of event. And, and what's,
what I like about what we've been doing at the Helms bakery, Cars and Coffee, is that it's not
like, you know, 50 Paganis. It's not that kind of show. It's just like, it's just a good mix of
everything. And yeah, it's cars and bids. So it's like, I'm into it. I went to their cars and coffee
at Pebble. Yeah. I heard it was good. I couldn't get it. Yeah. It was fun. Yeah. It was fun.
There was a good, a good scene going on. Um, I'd never met, uh, Philip, uh, who I really like.
Okay. I'm a nice guy. I met Dan. Dan is cool. Yeah. Dan the CEO. He's cool. I like him. I like
Dan. Um, I hadn't met Philip, uh, who I do. Like Ken and Ken is awesome. Um, uh, what's funny? He's
like, Doug was there like later. I had to like, leave to go take Hannah to the airport because she was
flying home. But, uh, Doug got there later. But I, I mean, it was a nice event. They were
good. If they're just, if they're going to do the same thing that they did there, which is just
basically set up the thing and help you. Yeah. Exactly right. Yeah. They just, they just want,
you know, they, they, look, they're, they want to compete, uh, with Brian trailer.
Brian trailer has been around a longer. They're bigger. They, they just do what they can't. So
then, and they, and they, you know, they understand what that homes bakery cars and coffee. It's like
pretty grass roots, but it's like the demographic that would buy cars from an auction site online.
Are you guys also using the lot on the north side of Venice? Everything. Yeah. Okay. So it's,
it's the lots between the buildings. Yeah. The lot in front of the big lighting store. Yeah.
On Venice. Yeah. And the lot across Venice Boulevard. Two lots across Venice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And, you know, the first is a little inside baseball if you're not from LA, but it's part's important.
Yeah. So, so it's not immediately obvious. The show, the show is in the lots in the
homes bakery complex. Yeah. There was overflow show across the street. I never walked over there,
but that was going on. There was also like four blocks down Venice, but also on Washington.
Apparently, there was cars parked down there. Really? Yeah. Let's see that far. Yeah. And then,
you know, the second one was funny because it was like, it was again, it was like June 8th. Everyone's
on vacation slash the riots were happening. Riots in quotes. And, but it was still really well
attended, you know, and so it's, it's, it's cool. And and most importantly, hard to get a
waymo that day. Hard to get a waymo, but we have coffee available at starting at 7 a.m. That's
see, this is important. No, this is very important. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Coffee is the people who get
there early to, to, to, to be those people that are there early. We need a beverage. So yeah,
so the first talent, the talent that arrives in the talent we just need. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't know
the first time almost nobody gets this right by the way. Yeah. The number of car shows that I've
been to that are put on my professional organizations, where I'm asked to show a car. Yeah. And I'm happy
to do it. And I go and I get there. They are, they are, what are they going to be there? Well,
between 7 and 7 30. I'm there. It's 702. Yeah. Give me a cup of coffee. Yeah. So have that right.
You know, the first time we did it, we didn't do a ton of thinking, but we said, let's go from 8 to 10.
That seems like a fine amount of time for cars and coffee. Well, everybody should have at 702. Yeah.
And saying, he didn't know. So like to have coffee at 7 means he has to have two employees get
there at 630. Sure. And he didn't have that. No, I get it. Now we got it. No, you guys are
figuring it out in real time now. I'm not bitching about you. Yeah. Yeah. And just saying that if
you're out there. Yeah. And you're the kind of person who's going to put on events in your town
and have coffee. If the event starts at 8. Yeah. But you have a load in for feature cars that
starts at 7. Your coffee starts at 7. Yeah. We learned that the first time we corrected it was fine.
And I think we have coffee and breakfast burritos starting to sell.
Breakfast burritos are good. Oh, I mean, saying, you know, the food at the food Helmsbaker is
really good. So I sat down with Scott, who is as Scott's Malibu market. I went there for the first
time yesterday. And I was boycotting for a while because of in support of Bill. And after a while,
I realized that like boycotting in support of Bill does nothing for Bill does nothing for Bill.
Does nothing for me does nothing for Scott. It does nothing for anybody. Right. Right. Right.
And Scott is a good guy. And especially after the fires, the whole everything up there was so
fucked. Yeah. Yeah. So, so. But I was asking him, I was like, all right, why is it?
Because this guy is pretty good at making breakfast. I go, why can't we have bacon and cheese?
New York style bacon and cheese. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kaiser Roll. And he said, dude,
can't do a Kaiser Roll. The Kaiser Rolls don't exist here. Bullshit. Let me tell you why.
Who has a Kaiser Roll here? Brents. Brents. Where are they? That's the problem is where are they?
But so if I may plug my YouTube channel, me and saying just shot an episode where we let's
figure out the best pastrami sandwich in LA. Okay. So as me and saying with the langers,
with the canners, went to Brents. And Brents has a sandwich called the 555, which is a Kaiser
Roll. I think they big the bread themselves. And saying was really, I don't know how much time
you spent with saying, but like I took into pizzeria say, which is like number one on every list
of best pizza in the world. Yeah. And he's like, well, what do you think? He's like, you can tell
the chef has some fine dining experience. It's all he would say. He wouldn't say it was good.
And he's eating like me bringing Christian to a concert. It's a brutal experience. Yeah.
So he eats the 555. And he's like, this is one of the best sandwiches I've ever eaten.
I'm going to call this the 10, 10, 10. You know, it's, I can't tell you how good this sandwich is.
This is the pastrami. It's, it's called the 555. So it's a Kaiser Roll. It's pastrami.
But they don't make a baguette and cheese there. We're just, we're just talking about the existence of
the roll. They might do a baguette and cheese. Can you just buy the rolls? Yeah, I think you can.
Okay. I think you can. Right now we're getting somewhere. The problem with Brents is it's in this
weird bermuda triangle in the valley where it's somehow it's 20 minutes from any fuel. I know what
you mean. Yes. It's just, it's hard to get to. I, but I have a solution for this. My solution for
this is that Thaddeus works for Marco and has to commute down here. So Thaddeus can stop and pick us
up the Kaiser Rolls. If I agree to make a bacon egg and cheese on the other end, which I would.
Okay. And then the other Brents has a location in West Lake. So if you're ever out there for,
first fuck it takes as long to get to West Lake as it says. It's a Northland because you're off
the freeway for 20 minutes and like, you know, but the West Lake, well, I do a lot of stuff out in
Malibu. It's just something that's on the hill. You know, it's literally where Decker ends is at Brents.
Okay. Maybe if I'm playing golf. Yeah. Alright. So Kaiser Roll does exist here somewhere.
Just Brents. Right. I can't explain how good Brents is. Well, I'm going to need some Kaiser Rolls.
And when I go to get them, I'll get one of these sandwiches and we'll try it. Let's go to the
fucking people. The patreon.com slash the smoke tire podcast. Let's do it. It's where you ask
questions for the show. It's where you watch the live stream once Zach rebuilt the studio. It's where
you catch the show before everyone else gets it or get the show without ads, get extra shows,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Zach, can I have the questions? Please.
Utah presents the soaking tire. It's orders who's bouncing the bed? Who's bouncing the mattress?
Oh, oh, oh, this is a morning. Just so warm in the show. That's it. If you don't move.
Oh, right. Okay. And you get your roommate who's, yeah, to bounce the bed. Okay.
They request Johnny for more culinary content. Yeah. I mean, like, hey, you're on driving with
Johnny. We're going to have me and Sang and Sang is a real celebrity chef. Eatin pastrami. And
hopefully it's the first of many of food and car. I got I got an S class to drive us. So I was
like pastrami eaters like Mercedes S classes. I do like Jewish people driving German cars.
Jews, you don't need to regard again. I mean, what more do you need? How were you able to
restrain him? Sang? Yeah, joke wise. You know, his funny was and I love saying, but like,
you turn the camera. You know, some people like aren't themselves. He wasn't himself. That's
the problem with a lot of people. He wasn't like, he wasn't like, Shalom. He has a business
he wants to keep in existence. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't he wasn't doing like, you know,
Auschwitz jokes, which is uncharacteristic. So yeah, I should I should actually, you know,
Mr. Soaking Tire, because your name's so good. I will do a bread making video and I will put
it on driving with Johnny, baking with Johnny. You should I do. I was doing this smoking
fryer during smoking fryer was fun. I never made videos of it. I was just like, but people do
like my ragu recipe. I had like my only like million view video was I just did like how to make bread
really during the pandemic. And it was, you know, just went fucking viral. It was crazy.
You should make some bread and then I will make the ragu and we can have a, you have a serious
Roman bread, a serious situation going. I make a cauldron of ragu. It takes five hours. Yeah,
you're like, you know, a bread bowl. I want that much of both. I want I want it on a big fat slice
of fucking. Oh, yeah. Oh, I can do that. I am, you know, Mr. Simmeresty who owns Providence.
By the way, got his third mission. I saw that. Yeah. Sick. That meal was so good. He was making
a porcetta at his house one time and I just took slices of some bread I made and just put it
under the slowly rolling pork as it dripped onto it. Oh, kind of the best thing I ever
read. Just fucking poor fat. Power of pork fat dripping on the under. That's like, I like bone
marrow bread. It's like, yeah, that's the next level. So yes, I will do some food up. Yeah,
we should do some more. We should do some more food content. Mike, I made Benihana for the
fucking dollop guys. I wonder if they can do anything with that. Michael Costgrove says,
would Johnny buy another new EV today? I would buy another Rivian. I love my Rivian so much. I don't
even care that I lost a little bit of money on it. I mean, it has 36,000 miles. And I think if I
KB beat it, it would be worth 60 grand. And I paid 76 for it. So that's not so bad at all.
Yeah. I would buy. Here's the thing. It's so weird. Like, I don't blindly like EVs. I like good
EVs. I like EVs that function as EVs, you know what I mean? And like, sure. And I just,
Rivian is just really good to own. So I would 100% buy a brand new Rivian today. I don't know
if I got afforded today, but I would buy one today if I get. Yeah. Uh, I wouldn't. I would
probably lease a new one if it was within my lease budget. And I, I'm, we'll see if I mean,
so far my Ticon experience has been like pretty good. Although I took it in for, so dude, I had
I had a fucking bit of karma work for me the other day. I took the car in for service. There's
there's a recall on the Ticon battery, something, something. And owners were instructed to not charge
the car to 100% blah, blah, blah. Took it in. They did the thing. Fine. While you're and I had
this weird problem where, uh, when it would be really hot outside. And I would try to use the
remote climate control like free. Yeah. In other words, I'm getting in the car in five minutes.
Yeah. Turn on the AC. Yeah. Yeah. I would get an error in the app. And I would say climate,
it would say, you know, error or not. And then when I would go to get in the car to drive it after
that, it would think the air conditioning was on, but it would not be blowing cold air. Oh,
that's bad. So the way I called, I called a Calvin. That's a good person. That's what you call. He's
the head of four door portions of North America. Yeah. That's why I privilege, I guess. But I never
do. Yeah. I was, it was in the middle of Nevada. Yeah. So he goes, okay, you got to do a soft reset.
And that should fix it. So you basically get, turn off the car, get out, lock it, walk 100 feet
away for like three minutes. Yeah. And come back and it should work. Yeah. And it did. It totally
did. Yeah. And that happened one other time after that. I told the dealer and they couldn't reproduce it.
Sure. Last someone. Sure. Because of course they couldn't. Right. This time I go to take the
car in for the battery recall service. It happens. Oh, nice. Going to the dealer. Perfect.
The way to the dealer. Perfect. Normally like you, the thing never happens in front of them. Yeah.
This one, it's on the way. So I go, don't turn the car off. It's doing it. Get out the thermometer.
Like check, you know, check it. It's blowing fresh air. Not cool. Okay. Finally. So they figured out
there's a sensor that's fucked. Cool. Great. Replace that shit. Warranty. No problem. Nice.
Got the part in called me Friday afternoon at like 459 pm. And they're like, yo, I'm really sorry.
But the part is bad. Like a replacement part. Oh, yeah. So they just want a bad batch of shit. Yeah.
Like can we keep the car till Tuesday? And so they're going to do it. But it's, but like it actually
is like it was a real thing. They're fixing it for free. So there's my, there's my used
tire con update. But otherwise, that's fucking so far. So good. So the, the roomian soft reset is much
better. It's just you just push in both thumb buttons for like a couple of seconds. So that's soft.
Okay. So you can do it in the car. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So you gotta get out of the
type. Both thumb wheels. And then you push in the left button next to the thumb wheel and hold the
hazard button or something like that. That's the hard reset. Yeah. Hopefully I don't have to do a
hard reset ever on my car. But yeah. I mean, every time you do a software update, that's technically
a hard reset. Oh, is it? Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Mine does a lot. Oh, really? Hannah complains
that all like probably like three days a week, we get a pop-up notification when she gets in
the car in the morning and says there's been a software update. I mean, what I actually want is just
to turn off the fucking notifications. Like I don't care that it's updated. Because like that's the
thing is like that gen of that, what is it? The J1 platform or whatever? It was just released
too soon. They're just still doing updates. Yeah. I mean, sure. It was. In general, like it doesn't
bother me. It just bothers Hannah. Like, you know, for I mean, pop up when pop-up windows bother
everybody. Who doesn't want to do it? Do you need to tell me? Just do it. That's the thing with
the Rivian. Like it's such a special moment when you get the notification. Like there's an update
available and it's like, what am I going to get? What am I going to get? Because they just add such
cool shit to the car. You know, I'm like, they had one the other week that was like just bug fixes.
I didn't do anything special. I was kind of like, and but like the one before that was awesome.
Like like full Google maps and like all this cool shit. Well, yeah, it's really good.
Let's see. Buffett again, Warren says, I've looked around for R129s since you've talked about your
experience with them and mentioned that they're likely bottomed out. Is the AMG worth the effort
to find seems like they're pretty scarce? Well, if I AMG, if you just mean the sport package,
because there was an SL500, there was an SL600, there was no 63. So if you're talking about the AMG,
the sport pack cars, I don't think they're that hard to find. I mean, probably a third to a half
of all the R129s produced in the second half of the rules. Yeah. Yeah. They're
too. I'm going to tell a story that's going to make somebody look bad, but it's going to be
funny. We went to this car. We're in the storytelling. Not a specific person that I know.
Okay. We went to a car and coffee on Sunday that was put on by Myers-Manks. It was cool. So
this like weird little store in Hollywood that's very much one of those like LA brands.
But, you know, like 10-manxes and a bunch of other random cars, some of which were incredibly
cool, like an original Jaguar D-type and some other stuff like that. Sure, that rolled up.
It was okay. Is there anything section of the D-type? That's the best. It really is the best.
Yeah. So there's a red R129 SL500, red tan AMG wheels. Perfect. The right part with the hard
top R. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. And I go to Hannah. I go, you see that one. I go, that was just
like ours that we had. But I go, there was like a $10,000 premium for rent versus any other color.
Sure. Okay. Cool. Whatever. Well, they, they park it and they get out of the car and it's a couple
and the, the woman is driving the car into the law and I assume it's her car. She can't,
the back windows kind of fogged up. She doesn't want to park it. So she gets out, he gets in and
parks it. Okay. And then once it's parked, they pull out a cooler and a lawn chair. Perfect.
Put them in front of the car. Cars and coffee. And, and then they have, pull out some microfibers and
just start dry wiping the shit out of this car. Cars and coffee. Just dry wipe in the whole car.
And I'm just like, Hannah, look at this. Like, oh, no, the whole thing with this car is the red
paint and they're just rubbing, rubbing dust into it. And then the last cherry on top is they
go into the trunk and pull out a first sale side and put it on the window. How much? Well,
it was $25,999, which is, dude, which is almost, and it had the same miles was when I sold mine,
had like 55,000 miles. And I sold mine for 17 grand. Then I was like, here we are like five years
later, a six years later, 10 that bottomed out to answer the question. That's a bottomed out car
with a $10,000 premium for red. If it was silver, it's 17 grand. They're such good cars. They look
great. Did you ever drive Camisa's with the manual? No, but I, I know what it could be. Unknowingly,
it was so nice. Yeah, probably. That was like, I was like, because I just, I don't know why,
I just assumed that Mercedes manual would be really bad for some reason. It was so good. It was
such a good car. Like it was. Yeah. Oh, here's a good one. Zack's under dried, under drive pulley
says, oh, wait a second. Hang on. I'm kind of interested in this.
This is going to be a very easy question from Kurt. Love your Hellcat wide body track video. This
is a video that's probably seven or eight years old this point. Yeah. What would you do to help
it turn in and break better? How much power should it have to help with its power to weight
ratio? I go to club motorsports, Palmer, Watkins, Glenn, and Thompson. Wow. Stay away from Watkins.
With that car. I mean, the steering box on the, is he talking charger or
Challenger? So the charger weirdly has a better steering box than the Challenger. Yeah. There was
a rear brake better weight balance, too. Yeah. So hopefully it's a charger. I mean, brakes, you
know, so heavy, do tires, but like if you get those off the parallelies and put them on like
PS4s, brakes are better. The handling is better. It really revolutionizes the car. I've never driven
one that wasn't a press car. So I've never driven one off of a, I had a year line one for a year
and I finally put like, you know, I figured out somebody would give me free 305 with PS4s.
I did the same thing with the Jag F type. It just made all the difference in the world. Those
parallelies like they have no grip for whatever reason. That, that era of parallelie. That's a big
thing to do. Battery? Yeah. The brakes, I mean, I would do stainless steel lines and better fluid.
Your usual brake stuff. Yeah. I mean, this car is huge and heavy. I just love the question of
how do I improve the power to weight ratio. It's like this has seven hundred dollars. No, it doesn't
need that. Yeah, why bother you? Seven ninety seven, by the way. It's power. Yeah. It's power for
ratio. Yeah. So Michelin's would, would, would help. I would, they're not great track car. I
have had a lot of fun and canyons with the Hellcat Y bodies. They're really seven tenths cars.
They're not fun. Ten tenths. Even, but like, even, I don't know, I would say it was a little
harder than seven, but like, like, passing a nine eleven, that's, you know, think they're,
they're cool. Sure. You're in like a cop car. Yeah. Yeah, they're great. I love Hellcat
chargers and chargers and stuff. Yeah. And the things we said will improve it. But if you're looking
to have like a real track car, it's not a track car. You get to know that. But did you drive the one
there was one in the LA fleet that was, uh, it was like dark blue with black steels. Did you ever see
that one? I was, that's my literal steelies. Yeah. Black steel wheels. Yeah. On a Hellcat.
On a Hellcat. It was not a, it was on a wide body. It was an original Hellcat. It was like a dark
blue. It was like, it was like detective spec Hellcat. It was so fucking crazy. Oh, it's great.
Uh, Zach's underdrive police says when cars have light waiting packages where they remove
80 pounds, can you feel the difference when it's a 3000 pound car? Yeah. I would say only if you
drive the two cars back to back, if you don't drive the two cars back to back unlikely. Yeah, but
I mean, you know, 80, 80 pounds like it depends how it's distributed. Also, if it's 80 pounds of
like unsprung weight or whatever. So I just, I just did a, um, video on my YouTube channel.
Driving this track. Um, we, we had the Corolla, the 25 versus my car, which is the 24. Yeah.
But they only have automatics in the fleet right now for God knows what Toyota's thinking. But
so it had basically put 70 pounds on the front axle. Yeah. And, you know, huge difference. You
can totally feel it. Again, they weigh basically the same. There's just 70 pounds in one really
bad spot. Yeah. So yeah. And that's about a 32 hundred pound car. You can also feel it if cars,
for instance, if you drive two cars and one has like a glass roof, you know,
so I did that with, um, because it's about where that weight is placed, not just that they weight
exists. Yeah, exactly. If you distribute 80 pounds evenly across a whole car, it's hard to tell.
You probably can't tell the floor. Yeah. Like 80 off the roof or 80 off the, you know,
yeah, but on the front, 30 pounds off the wheels like, wow, you know, yeah, huge different. Yeah.
Um, I was just going to say, um, uh, like you've probably experienced this and usually it's in
lower power cars, but you put like me or you in the passenger seat of Miata. And it really changes
the car. Yeah. I just took a, I just took a heavy friend for a ride in a light car. Yeah. And he was
like, this is awesome. And I was like, you should see it without it. You with it. Yeah. I say that
as a heavy guy. But I'm, I'm every car I drive has to default to me. I'm in it. So like, yeah,
people are all like, well, he's fucking heavy. What does he do? I mean, every car. So I'm a control
sample. I'm not a variable. Right. Right. Right. Right. Plus you've lost like 30 pounds. So you're,
you're 42. Really? Yeah. What do you weigh now? 254. Oh, fuck, I'm heavier than you. Uh-oh.
I'm 258. Uh-oh. Yeah. If I get to 248, I'm, I, that's what I weighed as a junior in high school.
That's what I'm trying to get to. It's also what I weighed as a junior high school. I played football.
I was very heavy. If we both get a 248, we could fight. I don't want to fight. Let's not. If we both
get to the same weight, we'll raise a code of December, December, then it will truly be, but it will
truly be a no excuses. If one of you, I go, I'm 10 pounds. I'm on a difference in lap time. I've
already got all my excuses. I'm calling this to rest. I do a new, I do a new racing suit coming.
I'm very excited. Really? Yeah. I might need a new one. It turns out, I turned out a good friend of mine,
like, owns a really famous racing suit. I don't know if I don't know if she wants to publicize.
I guess suit, too. Let me talk to her. I want to suit. We talked to her. It's a good suit. My, my last suit is fine,
but it's off the rack and I don't know a couple of years old. So when I did pikes, I got, I got hooked up,
no, I got hooked up with HRX, right? And it's through, through Jimmy, Maro, and you can order a suit
and like, there's 20 different measurements. My wife's got the same measurement. Yeah. And I do it
and it's like, do you want tight, normal or loose? I'm like, my whole life, all of one is a loose
racing suit. Yeah. My whole life. So I say loose. They're Italian. It comes. I'm a fucking, I'm a
stuffed sausage. I can't even time my, she's like, it hurts to bend my leg. So, so, so, so
Bugatti's doing this thing and Bugatti's going to give me another HRX racing suit. So I take my
original measurements and I add a centimeter everywhere and then two centimeters in the balls.
Very important. And I have the greatest racing suit in the world, but it says Bugatti on the back
and everyone hates it because it's like, you can't wear that out. It's a perfect suit. It's a
shape. So, I hope you wrote down the measurements. I have the measurements. I have the measurements.
So, that shit's important, man. Yeah. When you, when you are getting a custom thing made like that,
yeah, you got to take into account country of origin. It's Italy. Yeah. Boy, do you need to ask for a
small fuck? But if you, if you've ever seen a guy in a loose-fitting race suit and you're like, oh,
that looks so good. Oh, I have one. You do? Oh, it's the best. Oh, no, I do. I do. Yeah, it's
luxury limit. But my pike suit is the, like it literally to tie my shoes, I had to put my foot
on a, on a, a step of an F-150 and lean. And then jump off. And then, like I, I, I do practice
session and my hips would hurt because it was so tight. It was so bad. No, loose suit is where it's at.
It's where it's at. Half-mystered nipple clips. Love it. I had a blah-bye STI and a 996. Apparently,
I like cars with disliked headlights. Good for you. Are there any other fun cars with generally
disliked headlights? I should lust after. In Diablo's. People don't like Diablo's. The 300ZX
headlights are turned off. They're great. I have, I doesn't bother me at all. Not only that, I just,
it just drove Diablo GT, which by the way, they're rad, which, yeah, they're rad. But that was
Regioni's like first thing at Lamborghini. Oh, really? I didn't know that. He's one of the individual
throttle bodies. But they, they put a little piece of carbon fiber covering the word Nissan. So,
to me, it's perfect. Really? Yeah. That's the most Lamborghini shit ever. Ever. It's just great. It's
awesome. Daddy, Doug, shorts, if you were making a mount rush more of Porsche's greatest hits,
what would it be? Okay. First, you'd have to take some tribal land. Then, you can talk about,
I got two. I'll give you two. Okay. I would say the 550 spider. Uh-huh. And I would say
the very obscure, but 1953, America Roadster, inside and full agrees with me. That's it. Okay. Yeah.
Mine would be the 997 GT3 RS 4.0. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. 100%. That's thousand percent. The 197. I guess
this would be four. The, the, the 2.7 RS 3.0 RS are, the, no, I wouldn't do that. I would say
than the 85 Carrera Club Sport that I drove. That was like 2200 pounds and 250 horsepower and
felt like it was 800 horsepower. Let me just add one. I drove recently at 73 RS R L. What is that?
It's the lightweight. And so, um, the non-sunroof, uh, so they're, they're called the RS Ls,
but the RS lightweight. The, the non-sunroof one sold for like two points, something million.
The one I drove had a sunroof. There's only two million bucks. And everyone's like, could you
tell the difference? And I was like, go fuck yourself. But yeah, it was, it was such a wow car. It's
just like, like, like, like a 73 RS is like about 800 grand. And this pulls like 200 pounds out
of the car. And it has all like the R stuff. Like the, you know, it's not as hardcore as an R.
Oh, it's so much. They do lightweighting very well. They did do lightweighting very well. They
did do light. Yeah. And they up until, yeah, you know, I drove a 964 Club Sport that was very,
very good. You're, you're, you're so right on the 4.0. I tried about that for a second. 4.0 is
the greatest car I've ever rated somebody at a cars and coffee on Saturday because their RS 4.0
had tires from 2012 on it. Oh, but it was just real quick with the lightweight. I remember I
went on the launch of the Cayman R. Yeah. Do you remember that? Were you there? I wasn't on the
launch. I got it as a press car. So the launch was great because they, they actually literally took
over a church and they put the Cayman R on the pew. And I'm like, I'm an atheist. And I find this
very, very weird. Yeah. It was very strange. But they're like talking about how, oh, yes,
we're saving all this weight with we got rid of the door handles and we have pulls. And I'm like,
you still got vanity mirrors. And they're like, yeah, you got to crash a car. Like,
user name, have you, having both made a career in the industry, do you ever find yourself burned
out on cars? No, never enough for one second occasionally for short periods of time. And then I go
on vacation with my wife to something unrelated to cars. And then coming back to work is great. Oh,
oh, I get burned out on the job. But like I could, is busy as everybody I could sit and talk about
cars all night long, which I did at your house last night, which yeah, which is what most of our
conversations are like anyway, yeah, never, never, never, uh, grainy shift and not double clutch.
And like you should says, Johnny, now that you started your channel thoughts on the timing of it,
should you have started one earlier or find with how things turned out. Zach and I had this
conversation last night in your kitchen. Um, I should have done it 10 years ago, 100,000 percent.
I had this really nice contract with motor trend for a long time. It was a really, really
financially good contract. And then it went away. And then it took me like a year of like,
I don't have any money to like realize I should do something. Yeah, you know, I was kind of just
burning through my savings, um, 1000, 1000 percent. I totally waited too long. Now I'm old and
uglier and fatter and probably not going to be that successful. But yeah, totally, yeah, totally
fucked up. The times it starts things like that is yesterday. But I did it and it's going and
it's doing well and making money and got an advertiser. There you go. Yeah, yeah, ads are good.
That's a great, yeah. Uh, last one. And then we're calling the game because I'm going to go home
to my wife and go to sleep. Uh, not for you. Go says what examples of stealth wealth do you see
in your region? I live in a poor state where it's rare to see any form of exotic car. However,
it's pretty common to see very expensive RVs and boats. Yeah, that's, that's sometimes not
stealth with the RVs and boats. But we don't know how much it costs. Yeah, that's true. But we're
in LA. There's no such thing as stealth wealth. It's, you know, they do, but also like, for instance,
like, you'll see people wearing like, I would say that like a Paul Newman Daytona is a stealth
wealth thing. If you don't, it's not old or diamond or shiny. It just looks like an old,
well, you know, there's a lot of that like vintage stuff where, you know, you've got the real thing
that other people are copying. Like that's that and like that and the shit in LA where it's like,
you're wearing a sweater, but your sweater is like $4,000. I feel like you can kind of tell.
I see guys in like $500 t-shirts and I kind of know it's a $500 t-shirt. Sometimes you do,
but other times, yeah. Yeah, but like in terms of cars, like the fainting was a real big flop in
Los Angeles. It just flopped out. Yeah. It didn't say S 500 on it. No, and people in this city,
if they, it's very rare that they want to hide like that, you know, where it's land, I mean,
land cruisers is where you would do that. And even then, almost trying to advertise their success,
but the stealthy thing is the vintage money. It's right, like vintage car, Icon Bronco,
if you don't know, you might just go, it's a cool Bronco shirt and it looks pretty refurbished.
Yeah, it was $400,000. Yeah. Or if you have the Porsche 356 Carrera with the four cameras,
if you just have a 356, so like there's, they're so expensive for just, you know, like a,
you know, a B or whatever. Sure. Economies of scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
We don't have like, you know, he's talking about boats and RVs, but also like the six-figure truck
while totally exists here, they don't stand out, but like, you know, you go to other states and like
the King Ranch 450, whatever. Yeah, but just all the amount of aftermarket
worked on trucks and like, like every truck in Texas has that Texas front bumper,
every single one. Yeah. And just done up and they're all customers. It's really a part of
the culture, which is like trucks and RVs. LA is just a, you know, it's a big city,
emphasis on city. You know, you go out to like, you know, Santa Clarita or something like that.
There's more truck culture, I would say. I think when I see like real pre-runners here,
like someone took a Raptor and it widened and it's got three chamber King shocks and I go,
that's a $50,000, $100,000 add to a Raptor. Right. That's kind of sneaky. Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, but even a Raptor's like not stealthy in any way, shape or form, you know. Yeah, but most
people would go, oh, the truck with big wheels like, no, no, no, no. Especially if it's, if it's
hauling a can-am like for, you know, four-seater can-am that's got a bunch of shit on it. You can build
$100,000 can-am's. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know, you know. But the other thing, I can't,
what was it? Chevy or Ford or somebody, but like, turns out like Southern, I think Southern California
is the biggest market for Chevy Silverados in the country. Yeah, we have population. Southern
California is huge and once you go outside the Metro LA area, yeah, they're selling tons of them.
But even, we just don't notice them. Even in the Metro LA or they're selling tons of them because
people use trucks all the time for all kinds of shit. Yeah. Yeah. That's our show, folks. Thank you for
joining us today. I'm sorry if we got a little flustered at the beginning because we had a rebuild
our panel over there. We'll get that sorted eventually. I ordered the cable already. Did you?
Well, that's what you were doing over there. Shout out to Andrew of the independent state.
Half-shadowed. He could have sent some better things. Come on. It was a good educational
experience. I enjoyed it. Yeah. In addition to this weirdness, you sent the thing that you said
was incredibly valuable and rare and special. So I want to talk about what that is because that's
pretty wild. No. Okay. Yeah. He did send bonus. He did send one ounce of unicorn juice.
I mean, if you like, yeah, you could you could Google what that is. Yeah. Maybe look for like
Colonel Taylor with the other Nomenclature and like the prices are like, I mean like five figures.
All right. Well, we're not we're not selling it. We're telling it. It's not. Yeah. We're going to taste it
but later later on a special day. Thank you to our patrons. If we didn't get to your questions
today, we will save them for the next cruise show. We will be back. What tomorrow is that, huh?
Tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning with a new board and maybe even a power cable. And hopefully
yeah. Bezos willing. Lord Bezos. No, if you tried to get like, I've been ordering a lot of new
gear like terrorists are fucking hounding the ability to get stuff shipped. I have a new Osmo
that's like been delayed five times. Really? Well, there's a lot of countries that are just
not sending mail here now. China weirdly is still sending mail but like, it was supposed to be here
on the 22nd and then it was supposed to be here today. And I got a note like, UPS had a problem.
I was like, what does that mean? You know, like the problems name is Trump. Yeah. Thanks everybody.
Hopefully our gear can arrive when you continue to make a show because it's actually a global economy
whether you want to believe it or not. Bye.
About this episode
Jonny Lieberman joins the Smoking Tire crew to discuss a variety of automotive topics, including their experiences with the Roof Rodeo and SCR, and the pros and cons of buying new versus used EVs. The conversation takes a light-hearted turn as they conduct whiskey tasting experiments, comparing different char levels and aging processes. The episode is filled with anecdotes about unique cars, personal stories, and insights into the automotive industry, making it a fun listen for car enthusiasts.
air cooled
all wheel drive system
Audi baseball stitch
carbon fiber
cars and coffee
Dolby Atmos
EV
horsepower
Ionic speakers
lift-off oversteer
Bugatti Veyron
Cadillac Escalade
Cadillac Lyriq
Cadillac XT6
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Silverado
Ford Bronco
Ford F-150
GMC Hummer EV
Hummer EV SUV
Hyundai Ioniq 5
Jaguar D-Type
Lamborghini Diablo
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
Nissan Juke
Porsche 356
Porsche 550 Spyder
Porsche 911
Porsche 959
Porsche Cayenne
Porsche Cayman
Rivian R1T
Toyota Corolla
Toyota Land Cruiser
Original notes
Jonny Lieberman is back for a weird whiskey tasting at to talk about: His drive in the RUF Rodeo; why he likes certain Cadillac EVs; whether or not he would buy a Rivian again; his YouTube channel; why barrels on the ground make things taste different than barrels near the roof; getting drunk in Scotland; his feelings on fake gears in EVs; and more!
Recorded September 1, 2025
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