Jonny Smith 'That time we did a Somerset Ferris Bueller's day off'

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Mr.

MaxNewman.

Hello.

Goodafternoon.

Howareyou?

Yeah,good.

Reallygood.

Justthetwoofus.

Ifinished,well,IhelpedMr.

SibleymovehouseonMonday.

Soheissettled,but,well,notquitesettled.

He'sgotlotstodoinhisnewplace,sohe'snotwithustoday.

Yeah,unpackingboxes,paintingwalls,settingupWi-Fi.

Oh,justthethoughtofit.

Oh,blimey.

Soundslikeyou'regoingtobebackroundthere.

I'mnotgoinganywherenearit.

Wedidalotofhumpingyesterday,alotofboxhumping.

Yes.

Yeah,alotofmoving.

Soyeah,itwasallgood.

Itwasallgood.

Lovelytohavethegreatweather,ofcourse,tomovein.

I'vemovedbeforeinthewetweatherandit'snotbeengreat.

Sotohavegreatweatherwasfantastic.

Yeah,yeah,yeah,absolutely.

Yeah,youdon'tever...

Yeah,doingthatonacrappyday,doyou?

Definitelynot.

Butthat'sokay,youknow,wecancope,thetwoofustoday,becausewe'vegotanamazingguest.

Haven'twejust?

So,youknow,we'vegotplentytotalkabout.

He'stooksometrackingdowntonailhimtothemast,asitwere.

Hasheever?

Yeah.

Mr.

Popular,asheis.

Busyman.

Indeed.

Worththewait,though,Iwouldsay.

Ithinkhewilldo.

Shallwetellthelistenerswhoitis?

yeahyeahyeahyou'dbepleasedtohearladiesandgentlementhatourguestthisweekon9xradioistheoneandonlymrjohnnysmithofiwasgoingtosaywhatfamesomanyfamesmostrecentlysmithandsniffonthepodcastandthelatebreakshowonyoutubebuthistoricallyfifthgearyeahumanduhPress,CarMagazine,MaxPowerMagazine.

Ithinkthat'sprobablyhismostfamoustenure,isn'tit?

MaxPower.

ButIthinkhedidotherthingslike,wasitVintageVolkswagenMagazine?

Ithinkitwasthefirstonethathewrotefor.

Yeah.

AlsowroteforCarMagazine.

Yeah.

Whatelse?

Numerous,Ibelieve.

Yeah.

Allsortsofstuff.

Andyeah,ofcourse,youknow,FifthGear,youknow,seriousnetworktelevisionstuff,proper,properstuff.

Andonthatforalong,longtimeaswell.

Yeah,yeah,yeah,yeah.

Longtime.

Ithinkitcouldbesortof15oddyears,maybemore.

I'msurewe'llfindoutwhenwespeaktohim.

Yeah,yeah.

Soquite,quiteexciting.

Proper,youknow,Interestingly,becauseIsupposesomeofthestuffonhisownchannel,LateBreakShow,arehisowncars.

Yes.

Andbecausehe'sbeenonthetelly,he'soneofthosepeoplewherefolkmightthink,actually,Iknowthisguy.

Youknow,Iknowallabouthimalready.

Yeah.

So,youknow,let'sseewhatsortofconversationwecanhavewithhimandgettoknowhimandseewhatwelearn.

Absolutely.

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OnloadsofPorschepartsandalsotopicallybecauseitwasWorldLandRoverDaythisweek.

AlsoaloadofLandRoverbits.

Yeah,IthinkitwasWorldLandRoverDayyesterday.

Idon'tthinkitwastoday,Ithinkitwasyesterday.

Certainlythisweek.

So,yeah,crackon.

Andofcourse,VWpartsaswell.

Oh,andVWpartsaswell.

Again,verypertinent.

Ithinkwe'llprobablybetoourconversationwithJohnny.

Ithinkitwill,butIbethe'sshoppedinheritagecarpartsbefore.

Ibet.

Excellent.

So,shallwetalktoJohnnyandfindoutwhatVWsandPorscheshe'shadovertheyears?

Yeah,let'sgethimon.

Well,JohnnySmith,welcometoNineworksRadio.

Pleasuretobehad,orwithyou,howeveryousayit,Iguess.

Thankyouforhavingme.

It'sgreattoseeyou.

We'vebeenthinkingaboutthisandtalkingaboutthisonandoff,Ithink,eversinceyouandRichardcrashedmyphotoatRensportReunion.

Iwascrouchingonthegroundtryingtogetsomekindofgreatshot,andsuddenlyyoutwohovedintoview.

LookinglikeacoupleofEnglishlumberjacks.

AndIwaslike,Richard,you'recrashingmyshot.

Andhereweare.

That'snearlytwoyearsago,isn'tit?

Yeah.

Isthatreallynearlytwoyearsago?

Yeah.

Howcrazyisthat?

Wow.

Yeah.

Thatwassuchagood,funevent.

Itwas,wasn'tit?

Itwasfantastic,wasn'tit?

Yeah.

Yeah,thatfeltspecial.

Well,sorryforruiningyourvideoorphotoshot.

Hey,don'tworry.

Don'tworry.

Itstartedaconversationthat'sledtothis.

Well,quite.

AndIneedtoapologisetoyouforbeingactuallysoshitattakingsolong.

Don'tyouworry.

Wehaveplentyofpatiencehere.

Yeah.

It'snoteasy,thesethingsorganising.

Iwaspleasedwhen...

relieved.

Notsurewhatthewordis.

WhenIwaswatchingyournewcontentwithDariotheotherday,andyouweretalkingabouthowlongit'stakenyoutogetthatgoing.

I'vebeenchattingtoDarioonandofffordonkeystoo.

Andyouknow,everyone'sbusyandit'shardtogetthesethingssorted,isn'tit?

Itis.

And,um,somestuff,there'sotherstuffthatothercarshavebeentryingtofeatureorpeoplehavewantedtotalkto.

Andyousometimeshavetoputtheironinthefireandleaveitforafewyearsandjustbepatient.

And,uh,That'sjustthewayitis.

Buttodayit'sfunnythatwe'redoingthistodaybecauseI'veactuallybeen,I'vebeenunderaPorscheallday,likeallday.

I'vestillgot,I'vestillgotsomeoilonmy,it'sabitofoilonme,scrapetherealittlebit.

Yeah.

It'sbeen,it'sbeenquite,it'sbeenquitetherapeutic.

It'sbeenenjoyable.

WhatPorschewasthat?

Wasityours?

Yours?

TheBoxster?

Yeah.

TheDirtBoxster,thebargainBoxster.

Yeah.

Ah,how'sthatgoing?

Yeah.

It'sgoingreallywell.

Thanks.

It's,It'sreallygotundermyskin.

Literally.

Well,ithas.

ButImean,IboughtitobviouslyataverylowpriceandapricewhereyoucouldaffordtoloseifitallwentcompletelyPeteTong.

Andit'sdonefarfromthat.

It'sbeenreallyenjoyabletothepointwhereI'mlike,I'mnevergettingridofthiscar,amI?

Idon'tthinkIam.

Ican'tbecausewhatwouldIgetthatwoulddoitformeonthislevelforthismoney?

Andit'sjustgreat.

AndI'veturnedintooneofthosepeoplewhowon'tstoptalkingabouthowgoodboxersare.

I'moneofthem.

Iamoneofthem.

Wegetabitboring.

You'reingoodcompanyatNineworks.

We'vegotalotofthat.

Yeah,Imean,IworrythatI'mboringmyselfattimes.

I'mwaxinglyricalsomuch.

Oh,yeah,you'vegottogeta986ora987.

Oh,yeah.

Yeah,you'vetotallygottogetoneofthose.

Butitturnedoutprettygood,though,didn'tit,intheearlycontent?

Yeah.

youdidonititwasitwaslikeyouknowtherewassometrepidationithinkforyouandforeveryonewatchingyeahlikeisthisgoingtobeanabsolutehowleryeahandit'sandit'sallrightit'swaybetterthanitshouldhavebeenactuallyininmanywaysbodilyit'sfrustratinglybetterthaniexpectedittobeasididwantabitofaghettoboxerwhichwasalwaystheongoingjokei'dloveaghettoboxerbutit'sit'sactuallygoodit'sreallygoodandYeah,itistoogoodforthat.

Andasaresult,I'veenjoyedspendingmoneyonitbecausesometimeswhencarsarebetterthanyouexpected,you'vegotthematagoodenoughprice.

Ialwaysthinkwhenyoustarttoinvestinthem,theygiveyoumorebackandyougo,well,thisisjustajoy.

I'menjoyingtheprocess.

Sowhatthehell?

Becausebasicallytodaywe'veputonsuspensionthat'scostmorethanthecar.

Yeah.

Soanynormalpersonwouldgo,well,that'sidioticwhatyou'redoing.

Butyougo,yeah,butonceI'vefittedit,thatsuspension'sgoodforanother100,000milesorwhateveritmightbe.

Soyougo,actually,youknow,Imightnotbedoingallthose100,000miles.

Whoknows?

Weshouldhookyouupwithoneofourcollectivemembers,Sakib.

He'sonasimilarjourneytoyou.

He'stryingtoturnoneofthecheapest986Boxersintothecountry,intothemostexpensive986Boxerinthecountry.

That'shisproject.

He'sdoingreallywell.

Ishe?

He'sdoingreallywell.

IfhewasmakingYouTubevideosofit,peoplewouldbelike,Sakib,thisisgenius.

Howareyoumanagingtospendsomuchmoneyonthiscar?

It'sbrilliant.

He'sreallydoingwell.

Andit'sa2.7

aswell.

It'snotanS,youknow,buthejustlovesitsomuch.

Likeyou,he'stotallyintoitandhejustcan'tstopplaying.

Can'tstopthrowingmoneyatitandpartsandjusttomakeitwonderful.

Iquiteenjoyworkingonthem.

Again,it'soneofthosethingswherewhenyouhaveanexoticcar,I'mgoingtocallitanexoticbecauseit'saPorsche,right?

Butpeoplearescaredbecausetheymightgo,there'sYouTubersnowwhoobviouslyplaywiththingslike...

30-year-oldFerrarisand25-year-oldFries.

Andonthefaceofit,youthink,whatareyoudoing?

You'reanamateurmechanicandyou'retouchingprestige,exoticcars.

Itcan'tgowell.

ButIthinktheeraofthecar,liketheBoxster986,it'sactuallyquiteamethodicallyputtogether,fairlyuncomplicatedcar.

Andbecausethere'ssomanyoutthere,certainlyintheUK,andyoucanbuyeithersecondhandpartsorThere'sreallygoodqualityrepropartsandthey'reclassedasaclassic.

Actually,youcangenuinelyrunoneonashoestringifyouwantedwithgoodknowledge,youknow,goodresearchandfriendshipgroups.

Oh,yeah.

Safespaces.

So,yeah.

AndIwon'tjusttalkaboutmybargainboxbecausethatwouldbeboring,butI'mfortunateenoughtodrivealotofexpensivenewcars,right?

AndalotofPorschesovertheyears.

Andthatthingouttherethatcostmetwograndstillfeelsgood.

Itstillimpressesmeanditstillbringsabiggrin.

Andthat'snoteasytodowhensometimesyoucandriveacarthat'shalfamillionquidoramillionquid.

Andtogetbackintoit,it'sareallyinterestingreference,Ithink,becauseyougo,wow.

thisisstillprettygood.

AndIcouldgoout,ifIdidn'thavethatone,Icouldsaytopeople,infact,somebodytextsmetodaythatgoestothesamegymasme.

Theysaid,oh,I'vegotsixgrandtospendandIreallywantaconvertible.

WhatdoIdo?

AndIjustwent,hello.

It'sdefault.

Yeah.

Iwentlike,well,whatareyougoingtofindthat'sbetter?

Ijustdon'tknowifthereisabettercarforthemoney.

Iquiteagree.

It'sgreat.

ItjustsortofillustratesthefundamentaldifferencebrillianceofwhatPorschemadethere,isn'tit?

Youknow,thatevenatwograndonehastheabilitytoimpress.

Yeah,it'sexactlythat.

Andweirdly,sometimeswe'reallkindofdialedintothinkingthatdealerparts,youknow,originaldealerpartsaredefinitelythemostexpensiveparts.

Butweirdly,sometimeswhenyoujust...

youjustgetapriceforacertainthing,likeafootrest.

Somyplasticfootrestissnappedoff.

Someone'seitherover-tighteneditorsteppedonitreallyhard.

SoIwaslike,well,I'llwritedownthepartnumberandI'llseehowmuchitis.

Well,thecheapestplaceIcouldfinditwasPorsche.

Yeah,absolutely.

Alwayshavetocheck.

Therearesomestuffthatthere'snowaythey'rethecheapest,butothertimes,yeah.

Infact,I'dsayprobably...

50,60%ofthetime,youwillfindthatgoingtoaPorschedealerisactuallycheaperthanalloftheotherinternetprovidersandbuyingstuffsecondhandoffofeBay.

Yeah.

Yeah,exactly.

Soalwaystryit.

IswearthatmaybePorschethemselvesjustrollthediceandgo,shouldwepricethisoneludicrously?

Orshouldwejustlike,Justgivethemareallossleaderjusttogetthemin,likeadrugdealergivingyouafreehit.

Theyknowyou'llcomeback.

Itdoesfeellikethatsometimes.

Yougo,well,hangonaminute.

Thatboltwas80quid,butyetI'vejustboughtlikeawholecrankcasefor,youknow,12quid.

Idon'tunderstand.

Where'sthisgoing?

Yeah.

Youcannevertell.

Theydofeellikea...

relativelysimplecaraswell,don'tthey?

MyBoxsterisa981generationS,manual,lovely.

AndIwas991beforethatand997priortothat.

Andthisfeelslikeamoresimple...

straightforwardcartorunandtolookafter.

Imean,Idon'tdomuchtwirlingofspanners,asAndyknows.

Well,notwirlingofspanners,infact.

Youmighttwirlthem.

Doyouactually?

Yeah,Imighttwirlthem,thenIdropthem,andIjustleavethem.

Butyeah,I'vehaditfortwoyearsnow,andthere'sasimplicitytoitthatI'mreallyquiteenjoying.

Yeah,Iagree.

AndIthinkthat'smaybewhy...

Ithinkthefutureof,let'scallthemlikerewardcars,weekendcars,thatkindofthing,acarthatyouprobablydon'tuseeverydayislikerestomodtypestuff,whichisbaseduponusuallyoldercars.

AndobviouslythekingoftherestomodsisaPorschereally,andprobablyalwayswillbe.

Butit'sbecauseofthatfeelingofconnectionand,Carsnow,likenewcars,areallsocomplicated.

They'reasupercomputerandanengineandsometimesahighvoltage,allmarriedtogetherinthemostcomplicatedbox.

Andwhilstthey'reextremelycapableandimpressive,theydon'toftengetunderyourskin,Ifind.

Veryfewofthem...

sticktoyouandmakeyouthinkohdoyouknowwhatthisisthisisdoingthingsformeandandsowe'vegotsocaughtupinlikesheerfirepowerandstatsandcarsaresodamnfastnowbutspeedisnotsaidthistheotherdaytosomebodyandithoughtdoisoundlikejustanoldbastardidon'tknowbutlikethere'sspeedandthenthere'ssensationofspeedandthere'sandthere'sandthere'sdrivingfastandgoingaroundcornersandstufffastandthenthere'sactualfulfillment.

Andthat,andit'snot,it'snotthesamebecauseAudiprovedthatseveraldecadesago,youcanhaveanextremelygrippy,fastcarthatleavesyoucompletelynumbandyoudon'tgiveashit.

Yeah.

Youcouldbedoing160milesanhoureverywhere.

Andaslongasyourtiresarestillgripping,it'snotthatmuchfun.

You'rejustgoingtoeitherdie,killsomeoneorfallofftheroadand,orloseyourlicense.

Sothat'swhen,forme,themoreI,ofthesesortsofreallyludicrouslypowerfulcarsIdrive,themoreI'mgoingbackandgoing,Iwantanarrower,lightercarwithnarrowertyres,withlesspowerbecauseitdoesn'tneedmorepowerbecauseit'slighterandnarrower,thatmovesaroundabit,thatcommunicatesabit,andprobablyischeapertorunultimatelybecause,Idon'tknow,becauseI'mnotinapositiontospendhalfamillionpoundsonacaranyway,so...

Iwonderwhetherornotthat'swherewe'regoing.

Ireallydo.

Itotally,totallyagreewiththat.

Absolutely,yeah.

Youknow,andthat'swhyIkeepwonderinginmyhead,isPorschegoingtoremanufacturetheG-Bodyimminentlylikethat?

Becausewhywouldn'tyou?

Wouldn'tthatbespecial?

YoucanbuyabrandnewMGbody.

YoucanbuyabrandnewFordMustangbodyunderlicense.

YoucanbuyabrandnewMinibodyunderlicense.

WhythehellisPorschenotgoing,right,we'regoingtoremaketheGbody.

Youcaneitherbackdateit.

Youcanleaveitasa964,whateverthehellyouwanttodo.

Butwewillsellyouashell.

Here'stheshell.

Offyougo.

Dowhatyouwantwithit.

Andallthesecottageindustriesthatthriveonrestomodsandstuffcanlapitup.

It'sanofficialproduct.

AndpeoplelikeyouandI,whomightnotbeabletoaffordaturnkeyrestomod,butwecouldbuyashellandstartthejourneyanddoitoverfiveyearsorwhatever.

Youhearditherefirst.

IreckonJohnnySmithknowssomething,don'tyou,Max?

Ireckonhe'sintheknow.

Ibloodyloveit.

Ithinkitwouldbegreat.

Andalsoitmeansthatthe964intotallystandardformwouldn't,becometheautomotivepangolinwhichithinkit'sgoingtobecomeyeahyeahumwe'llseeyeahwe'llseeumyeahandyouarerightaboutthatbecauseisometimesiihaveanxietyaboutthe964thingyoudodidn'tyouandiknowthatishouldn'tandit'snotmyplacetoandthere'snovalueinmefeelinglikethatbutumeverytimeiseea964stillonflagmirrorsand

d90wheelsifeelimmensejoyandthenistarttoworrythatsomeone'sgoingtorestomoditandistarttopanicandithinkifihadlotsofmoneyi'dbewhichisjustasbadasrestomoddingi'dbebuyingthemallandjusttotryandprotectthemandi'dbeidon'tbeabletodrivethemallbecausei'dhavetoomanybuti'dfeellikeiwasdoingsomethinggoodbutactuallyitbegoodit'dbejustasbadasaswhatevermaybethat'smaybemaybeweshouldsetupacollectivebusinesswhichiscalledpangolinandyoudoitinthesamefont

astheporschefontonthelowerdoorsandthingsyeahbutitsayspangolinandthat'stheonlycustomtouchtothatcareverythingelseit'sjustasit'sjustas964aswasbutitsayspangolinonitbecauseitPeoplewhoknowwillgo,doyouknowwhat?

Thatisatotallyunmodified964.

It'shadnothingdone.

It'sjustbeenservicedandrenovatedandkeptontheroad.

Andthat'sit.

Youknow,thatisit.

Andthenwe'reliketheoppositetotheOutlaws.

Anddon'tgetmewrong.

IloveOutlawprojects.

Ithinkthey'rereallyinteresting.

AndIlovetherestaurantmodthing.

ThatTheondesigncarthatIdrovelastyear,whatastunningpieceofworkthatcaris.

Butatthesametime,maybethePangolincrew.

Itcouldbearisingvigilanteforcewherewe'relike,no,youleavethatcaralone.

Youleavethatpoor964alone.

Yeah,that'sathing.

That'sgoingtobeathing.

Ilikeit.

I'min.

Countmein.

Absolutely.

Now,wenormallystartourpodcastwithguestswithafewquestions.

IthoughtweshouldstilldothatandseehowtheBoxsterfitsintothat.

We'vegotourfirst,worst,bestandnextcar.

Yeah.

SoIthinkwe'llstartwithyoufirst.

Iknowwhatthatis,I'mprettysure,becauseit'sthesamecarthatIstartedwith,whichwasa...

I'llletyousaywhatyourfirstcaris.

Was.

Orstillhaveit.

Itis.

Yeah.

Beetle.

1967Beetle1500.

Infact,it'soutsideinthecarport.

AndIranitonashoestring,boughtitat16,andjusthave...

Forsomereason,nevercouldgetridofitorwantedtoandmadequiteafewsacrificesnotto.

Andit'statty.

Andithasthesamesmellasitalwayshas.

IthasallthestickersIputonitin1997and96.

AndIshouldrestoreitatsomepoint.

Butmechanically,it'sreallygood.

AndIgotitbackontheroadin2020withmybrother.

Wesetasideaworkingweekbecausemybrotherkeptgoing,stopbeingatart.

andwaitingtorestoreit.

Hesaid,justgetitontheroad.

It'sMOTexempt,youfool.

Justgetitontheroad.

Wedid.

AndactuallyhewassorightbecauseI'vedonemoremilesinitsince2020thanIprobablyhaveintheprevious25yearsorwhatever.

Anditfeelslikeit'sdrivingbetterthaniteverhas.

SoI'veeven,Irewardedit.

IrewardeditthisChristmasjustgonebybuyingasetofrealPorschewheelsforit,whichI,wantedtobackinthe90s,butIcouldn'taffordthem.

I'veboughtsome914,whataretheycalled?

Marleygasburnerwheels.

Oh,yes.

Yeah,nice.

IneedtogetthosereallynicelyrestoredandI'mgoingtorewarditwiththose.

Sothat'sthissummer.

It'llbereadyforsummerwiththemon,Ithink.

fantastici'mveryjealousthatyou'vestillgotthatminemineumistartedtakingmineaparttodotherestorationbackin1986anddidn'tdidn'tgetitdoneandsolditoffintheendsoitwasashameididn'tkeepitsoi'mveryjealousofyoukeepingyouryourfirstcarthat'ssomesomeachievementiisoyoursandywasyoursa6750minewas6712001200.

Sowasthatdiscbrakedorwasthatjustthe1500?

The1500hasdiscbrakesonthefront,isn'tit?

Wherethe1200wasstillfivestudwiththedisc,withthedrumbrakes.

Yeah.

Itwasyoursixvolt.

Itwasstillsixvolt.

Yeah.

Itwasthelastsixvolts.

Yeah,itwas,itwas67.

It'sjust,youknow,Idon'tknowwhattheequivalenttoseeisthe67beetle,theequivalenttolikethe197367.

9-11?

The72,I'dsay.

72.

Sotheonethat'sgottheoilclapper,astheycallit.

Oh,yes.

Yes.

Theadditionaloil.

Yeah,yeah,goodpoint.

Sothat'stheone,isn'tit?

Ilovethe72forthefactthateveryonefillsitsoilupwithpetrol.

Ijust...

IjustthinktherewasonethatwentupforauctionafewmonthsbackandIwasdoinganauctionpreviewanditwasintheroomandIwaslookingatitgoing,God,I'dloveoneofthose.

Idon'tknowwhy.

Imean,it'sjust,it'ssilly,butit'sthatoneyearonlythingofitgoing,well,trythis.

Ohno,itdidn'twork.

Let'snotdothatagain.

Yeah.

Okay.

Thereisanothercarthat'ssimilartothat.

Ithinkitcouldbea68or69,whichoneofourcollectivehasgotoneofthem.

TobyDyer'sgotone.

Andapparentlythere'ssomanybitsonitthataretotallydifferenttootheryears.

The72isprobablyjustthatoilclapperthingthat'sspecialtoit,butthere'sthat68or69.

SoitreallysortofmarriesupwiththatBeetle,becausethat'ssomanyone-year-onlybitsonthat67Beetle,isn'tit?

There'sloads.

AndIthinkatthetime,weirdly,Iwasjusttryingtobuyapre-68Beetleofanytypethatmybudgetwouldcover.

Howmuchdidyoupayforyours?

Ipaid£900forit.

Itwasupforsalefor£1,400.

Yeah.

It'sbizarrethatyou'vebroughtthisupbecauseIwasactuallyspeakingto,whilstworkingonthisBoxstertoday,talkingtoJamesatTHRacing,becauseIsaid,InearlysoldtheBeetletobuyaPorscheinthe90s.

Andthiswaswhenyoucouldbuya912infullworkingorderthatwasalittletatty,butnottotallyshit,forthreeandahalfgrand.

Andyoucouldbuyamintone.

TheseareallCalifornianimports.

Andyoucouldbuyamintone,andImeanreallymint,forlikeseven.

Sevenandahalf.

AndIsaidtomydad...

CouldwegotoLondononthebus?

I'mgoingtodrivea912,testdrivea912atTowerBridgePorsche.

They'vegotoneintherethat'sfourandahalfandit'sgreenanditlooksgood.

Andwedid.

TheguyletmetestdriveitandIwas18.

Wow.

Yeah,Iwas18.

AndIvery,verynearlyputmyBeetleupforsalebecauseatthetimemyBeetlewasworthaboutthesameamount,ifnotabitmore,bizarrely.

Wow.

Andmydadtalkedmeoutofit.

And,andIknowwhy.

Andcausehewaslike,youwon'tbeabletoaffordtheparts.

Yeah.

You'llbeabletobuythecarandthenyouwon'tbeabletorunit.

Anditwaslike,yeah,butI'veneverowned,I'veneverownedanine11oranine12tothisday.

Hasitalwaysbeen,hasitalwaysbeenawishdoyouthink?

Ormaybewe'llcomeontothatlater.

Yeah.

Let'scomeontothatlater.

Um,sowe'vedonethefirst,um,Greatcar.

Worst.

Whathasbeenyourworstcar?

ThatI'veownedordriven?

Yes,thatyou'veowned.

Gosh.

Ofthe130-oddorwhatever.

Yeah.

Alotofcars.

Yeah,ithasbeenprobably140-somethingnow.

Jesus,mate.

WorstcarI'veeverowned.

There'sbeensomefairlycrapones.

Yeah.

Doyouknow,Iactuallycan'trememberthem.

Ineedtowritethemdown.

I'vewritten,Iwrotethemdownuptoabout120andthenlostthedatabasesheetorwhateveritwas.

Ican'tfindit.

Idon'tknowwhereitis.

TherewasanAstraMarkIIMerit,whichIownedandIboughtit.

Iknowthis.

IboughtitsimplybecausemyGranadalowriderthatIdroveeverydaylikeafool.

brokedownandneededquitealotofworkdoingonit,onthesuspension.

AndIneededastopgapcartogettoworkforaboutsixweeks.

SoIboughtanAstraMarkIIwithaveryshortMOT.

Ithinkithadabout15daysMOToffanightclubbouncerfor£120.

Anditwas,don'tgetmewrong,IquitelikeMarkIIAstrasbecausemyfriendshadGTEsgrowingupandIdohaveasoftspotforthose.

Butyeah,Whenithadaslippingclutch,soyoucouldn'treallyusemorethanaboutathirdofthethrottle,youhadtodriveitsodamncarefullybecauseitwouldjustspinupandyouwouldn'tgoanywhereanditwouldjustsmelllikemackerelbecausetheclutchwasjustslipping.

Thisishorrible.

Andthesunroofhadbeensiliconshutandithadthesereallyhorriblestainsallacrosstheupholsteryfrom,Iguess,watercominginonit.

Soit'sabitofasad,horriblecar,really.

Didithavepowersteering?

Oh,didit?

Hellno.

No,IremembermymumhavingaMarkIIAstra.

Itwasadieselone,ifIrememberrightly.

Andthesteeringwassobloodyheavy.

Youactuallybuiltmusclesfromdrivingitfortheyears,Ithink.

Yeah.

Imean,myfirstcarorthefirstcarthatwasboughtformetouse,youknow,asa17yearold,Iwasconvincedthatasafamily,weweregoingtogetaBeetle.

BecauseeveryonewasintoBeatlesinourfamily,evenmymum,mydadandmysister.

WewenttoBugJamandBeatleBashandBWSpringNationalsandeverything.

AndIwasreallyexcited.

AndthenmydadturnedupfromworkonedaywithaMarkIIAstro.

AndIwasmortified.

absolutelymortifiedifeltlikehe'dreallyletmedownyeahlikehe'dstitchedmeuplikehewasplayingsomekindofcruelprankonmeiwassoiwasreallyquiteupsetandtheniwroteitoffithinkwehaditforyeahiwroteitofffourweeksafteripassedmytestithinkitwasforthebestyouknowdidyouhaveabiglookingbackonityeahwellyeahyeahYeah,sortof,yeah.

Itdoesn'tlooklikehewantstorecallthatmemory.

Yeah.

Itwasamoment.

Listen,theinsurancecompanyaren'tlistening.

Well,theymightbeactually.

Ijustdon'tknow.

No,yeah.

Ithink,ifI'mwondering,thissoundslikesuchastupidthingtosay,IwasonadifferentbitofroadthanwhatIthoughtIwas.

Okay.

That'soneofthebestracistexcusesI'veeverheard.

Ithink,Ithoughtthiswasahardleft,but...

Turnsoutitwasabigrightinstead.

Yeah.

Sothat's,that'sbasicallyhowitwentdown,Johnny.

Soitwasreallytheroadthatwaswrong.

Yeah.

Um,yeah.

So,butanyway,MarktoAstros.

Yeah.

Notmyfavoriteeither.

Johnny,I'mwithyou.

Ithinkwe'rewithyou.

Yeah.

It'sGTEornothing,right?

Yes.

Yeah,absolutely.

Yeah.

Oneofmy,oneofmyoldestfriendswhoIstill,Imean,stillintouchwith,we'veknownoneanothersinceweweretwo,hismomanddadhada,GTEconvertiblewhentheywerenew.

Whentheywerenew.

Itwaswhiteaswell.

Itwasso80s.

Itwaswhite.

Checkeredinterior,doyoureckon?

IthinkitdidwiththeRecarosandtheRollHoop.

AndIrememberwewenttothecinemaforhisbirthdaytowatchGhostbusters2.

AnditwasthemostexcitingthingbecauseIwassatbehindhisdaddrivingandIwatchedthedigitalrevcounter.

Iwaslike,thisisafriggingspaceship.

Isn'titamazinghowdifferenttheshittestAstrascanbetothebestAstra?

Yeah.

Iknow.

They'vegotthespectrumcovered.

Ilovethat.

Yeah.

Andalso,isn'titinterestinghowwenowhateadigitaldash?

We'relike,Goddamnyou,Porsche,andyourdigitaldash.

ButonthatmarkettoAstraGTE,itwasmega.

Itwas.

Itwasgreat.

So,yeah,Iguessthat'sprobablytheworstcarI'veowned.

I'llthink,youknow,tonightI'llthinkofothercrap.

Ofcourse.

Yeah.

That'salonglist.

Sonextisbest.

Bestcareverthatyou'veowned.

BestcareverI'veowned.

Yeah.

Well,wellnow.

They'reall,thereareonesthatarebestfordifferentthings,aren'tthey,likebestOverallenjoyment,bestforlooks,bestforfeel.

SoIthinkprobablyI'dbeabigfatliarifIdidn'tsaymyDodgeCharger.

Becauseit's,Imean,I'veobviouslyhaditalotlongerthantheBoxster.

AndIboughtthatcarin2008.

SoIguessI'vehaditquitealongtimenow.

Wow,yeah.

Yeah,yeah.

Iputitontheroadin09.

Andeveryonesaiditwilldriveterribly.

I'downedafewAmericancarspriortothat.

IwasalwaysintoclassicAmericanstuff.

Andtheylied.

It'samanual,andit'sabigblock,andit'sgotnon-servodrumsandnopowersteering.

Andit'saphysicalcar.

ButA,tome,it'sthebest.

oneofthebestlookingcarsofalltimefromsomanyangles.

There'salotofreallybeautifulshapesonthatcar.

It'sgotmuscle,it'sgotsinewy.

Oh,it'sjustgreat.

Andit'sarealphysicalexperiencetodrive,butactuallyitdoesgoaroundcornersbecauseitdoesn'tweighasmuchasitlooksandthere'snoluxuryinitatall.

Thegearshiftisreallygood.

Everyonesaiditwasterrible.

It'snotterrible.

Brakesareterrible,sureenough.

Andthesteeringisterriblebelowabout20milesanhour.

Butabovethat,everythingfeelssogreat.

Thesteeringwheel'sabout,Idon'tknow,threefeetindepth.

Andyou'rejustsawingawayatit.

ButIthinkbecauseof,again,drivinglotsofnewcarsforaliving,Ilovehavingreferencepointsfromyesteryear.

Andgettinginthatcar,tome,feelslikesortofcosplayforoneofthem.

SoyoujustfeellikeI'mjustgoingtodisappearbackto1968.

I'mnothavingaradioinitthatworks.

I'mnotgoingtoanswermyphone.

I'mjustgoingtodriveandenjoythesheeranalogcommunicationwithamachineonaroadthatIlike.

AndI'dbelyingifloadsofpeoplelistening,I'msure,willknowthis.

Ofcourse,youloveitwhenpeopleadmireyourcarandyouseepeoplego,oh,theydothatmeerkatthingofgoing,wow,lookatthat,ortheytryandgettheirphoneout.

Andyougo,that'scool.

I'veworkedhardtogetthiscar.

It'sgreatifsomeoneelsewantstoenjoyitaswell.

Absolutely.

It'sgoodtospreadthelove.

Yeah,Ithinkso.

AndIthinksobecauseIrememberasakidbeingreallytakenabackbycertaincars.

Andiftheowner,ifitwasashoworitwasparked,andiftheownersaid,oh,doyouwanttositinit?

Ordoyouwanttohavealookattheenginebayorsomething?

Thosememoriescanabsolutelystaywithyouforever.

Andinfact,theymightbesomeofthereasonswhywe'resatheretoday,becauseyoujustbecamemildlyobsessed.

Yes,ofcourse.

AndIlovethat.

Weallhave.

Yes,massivelyaddictive.

AndIremembergoinginearly...

earlymemoriesofgoinginPorsches.

MyfriendwhoIjusttalkedabout,whoseparentshadtheAstraGTintheeighties.

Well,inthenineties,theyhada,theyhada911.

They,theyhadacoupleofcarsandthentheygotthis911.

ItwasawhiteTarga.

Whatyearwasit?

89.

Itwasan89Targa.

Yeah.

WhichwouldhavebeenaGbody.

Yeah.

3.2.

Yeah.

So,AndIrememberweactuallystolethatcar.

Icansayitnowbecauseit'sbeenmanyyears.

Theywentonholiday.

I'vesaidthisstorybeforesomewhere.

Sowedidaproper,wedidaSomersetFerrisBueller'sdayoff,butwithaPorsche,notaFerrari.

Andhisparentswentonholiday.

Wewere16.

Didweevenhavealicense?

No,wedidn't.

Wewere16.

I'mnotproudofthis,soifyou'reachildlisteningtothis,thisisareallyawfulidea.

Andweweresatinhiskitchen,andhehadthenicesthouseoutofallofus.

Anditwasared-hotday,likeithadbeentoday.

Andweallsataround,andwewent,Luke,howlongareyourparentsonholidayfor?

Andhewent,oh,aboutthenextsortofweek.

Okay.

DidtheytakethePorsche?

Andhewent,no.

Andwealllookaroundlikethis,andthere'sakeyhookinthekitchen,arackofkeys.

AndIsawthecrestofthePorschebadgeglinting,andwealljustwent,no,thePorsche.

Soweallranaroundintothegarageandopeneditupandhadthatface.

Wewent,oh,mygosh,yourfolkshaveleftthePorsche.

We'vegottostartit.

Andhewent,no,no,we'renotdoingthat.

Andthenhepausedandhewent,ah,yeah,let'shaveago.

We,we,welethim,hegotinit.

Hegoes,nooneelseisdrivingthisapartfromme.

Wewent,okay,fair,fair.

We,hestruckitupandwealljuststoodtheregoing,ohmygosh,thisisamazing.

And,uh,wetookitout.

Wetookitout.

Wetookitoutforabouta10miledriveandwewent,wedid.

Wewereidiots.

Whodrove?

My,my,my,myfriendLukedid.

Yeah.

Oh,really?

Hewasn'tverygoodatdriving.

He'sdefinitelya16-year-oldtryingtodrive.

Weweredrivingaroundbacklaneswithblindcornersinsecondgear,maybethird.

Andwewenttocallonanotherfriendofours,becauseofcoursethisispre-mobilephones,tocallonhim,likeFerrisBueller,toprovethatwewereoutinthePorschetohim.

Andhewasn'tinthatdayfor10minutes.

Anditwasthe10minutesthatwecalledover.

Andgetthis,tothisday,he'spissedoffaboutit.

Tothisday,hesaid,doyouknowwhereIwas?

Hesaid,mymumanddadsaid,comeoutwithusbecausewewanttogooutandweneedtobuysomestamps.

Andhewent.

Heagreedtogooutwithhisparents,blesshim,becausetheyneededtobuysomestampsinaPeugeot405.

Wecameroundillegallydrivingablimmin'PorscheTarga.

That'smaybeforthebestthathewasn'tthere,becausethatwouldmeanhisparentswerethereaswell,andtheymightnothaveenjoyedthat.

Ithinkhewouldhaveopenedthecurtainsandgone,hangonaminute,theydon'thaveadrivinglicence,andthat'sawhitePorsche.

Whatthehell'sgoingon?

Yeah.

Yeah,you'reright.

Whatanexperienceasa16-year-old.

Thatcouldhavegonewrong,couldn'tit?

Butthat'scool.

Thatis.

That'scool.

Andhegotawaywithit,gotitbacksafely.

Yeah,hedroveitsafely,actually.

Hedroveitprettywell.

AxelStansputitinreverse?

Well...

Wedidmeasurewhereitwasinthegarageandweputtwigsdownonexactlywherethetyresweretoputitaway.

Andweneversaidanythingtohisparentsforyearsandyearsandyears.

Andlike15yearslater,Lukewasdrunkathiswork'sdue.

Himandhisparentsrunabusinesstogether.

Andheadmittedtohisfolks.

Hesaid,youknow,whenhewentonholidaythatyearandhisdadwent,Iknowwhatyoudid.

IknowyoutookthePorsche.

Yeah.

Andwe'relike,what?

Buthejustwent,ah,hesaid,Iknewyou'ddonesomethingwithit,butIlookedaroundit.

Therewasnoscratch.

Therewasnodamage.

Iwaslike,meh.

Hisdadwasverylaidback.

Andsowewerelike,wow.

Andtothisday,noneofus,yeah,noneofushaveownedaPorscheapartfrommeandtheBoxster,Idon'tthink.

AndIdon'tknowwherethatcarisnow.

Doyouknowwhat?

I'llfindouttheregistration.

Yeah.

Iwonderifanybodywholistenstothisknowswherethatcarisnow,becauseitwaslovely.

Itwasmint.

There'sachance.

It'dbenicetodriveitonedaywithadrivinglicenceratherthannotwithadrivinglicence.

Yeah.

Lovethatstory.

Maybeyoucouldaddittothefleet,Johnny.

Youcouldbuyit.

That'dbespecial.

That'dbecool,wouldn'tit?

Oneday.

A911isacarthatconstantlyeludesme.

Igetcloseandthen...

Igetcloseand,uh,IusedtoliveinLondonandworkinLondonforcarmagazineinabout2000and2001,maybeamillennium2000.

Yeah.

AndaguythatIknewfromanother,fromthepublishingworld,hehadabeautiful1967nine11totwolitercar.

Itwasblack.

Itwasabsolutelystunning.

Andhesaidtomeoneday,hesaid,I'min,mygirlfriend,we'regoingtobuyaflat.

Hesaid,I'mgoingtosellthePorsche.

Hesaid,Iknowyou'vealwaysreallyadmiredit.

SoI'llgiveyoufirstrefusal.

I'mlike,right,great.

Hesaid,Iwant12forit.

Ican'tgobelow12.

AndIwent,andatthetimeIwasearning,IknowIwasearning18grandayear.

Iwaslike,Icouldprobablytryandgetaloanorsomething.

AndIjustcouldn't.

AndIwent,I'msosorry.

I'dloveto.

Ijustcan't.

AndI,thatreallyhurtmebecauseIalwaysthinkbacktothatcar,how,howniceitwas.

Andthennow,becauseI'm,youknow,causeI'vebeeninthegamealittlewhile,therearecarsthatareclassedassortofmodernclassicsnow,likePorsches.

AndIgo,Idrovethatwhenitwaslaunched.

Yeah.

Anditwasreallygood.

Andtherearesomethatyoudo,youdrivetheminperiodandyougooneday,I'mgoingtofindoneofthemand,I'mgoingtogetone.

Andthe997GT3isoneofthem.

That'sforme.

CauseI,I,thatwasthefirstGTcarIeverdrovenewin,inperiod.

Andithadaveryprofoundeffectonme.

IrememberonenightI'djustbecomeadad.

MydaughterwasababyandIcouldn't,shecouldn'tgettosleep.

Andwhenshefinallygottosleep,itwaslikemidnightorsomething.

AndIjustwaswired.

AndI,mademyexcusestomyex-wife,andIwent,I'mjustgoingtogoout,justclearmyheadforadrive,becauseIhadaGT3997.

Itwasawhiteoneonthedrive.

Yeah,andIjustdisappearedinit.

AndIdrovethatcarforabout120milesthatnight.

Idroveitforhours.

Hours.

Anditwaswonderful.

Anditnever,havingdrivenfaster,bettercarssince,Istillgo,ooh.

Maxhasgotareallove,haven'tyou?

Stillmyfavourite911,John.

Imean,I'ma997guy.

AndsomyfirstPorschewasa997Gen1CarreraCoupe,BassartBlack,manual,lovely.

Didagazillionmilesinitover10yearsthatIownedit.

AndwhenIboughtit,whichwasin2012,Iwas36yearsold.

Ithoughtthisisgoingtobe,thisismyfirst911andit'sgoingtobeagatewaytoa997GT3.

That'smyplan.

Youknow,I'llhavethisforawhile.

I'llkeepworking.

I'llkeepdoingwell.

Andthat'llbeasensiblemove.

Andthen,youknow,themarketwentsillyandthepriceswentupand,anditsortofwentawayfromme.

AndIstartedtothinklatterly,maybeit'snotthe911formeanymore.

Youknow,maybethere'llbeotherthingsthatwouldfitbetterintomylife.

Yeah.

Youknow,thekindofthing.

AndthenafriendofoursfromthecollectiveGeordieBenn,who'sbeenonacarbuyingspree,heboughtonefromRPMTechnic,whichisclosetome.

IliveinBuckinghamshire,soit'sclosetome.

AndIpickedhimupfromthestationandwewenttogetitandhecamebacktomyhouseandhesaid,right,you'regoingtohavetodrivethiscar.

Isaid,why?

AndIwasallquitenervousaboutitandabitshyandcoy.

Andhesaid,no,I'veputyouontheinsurance.

Soitneedspetrol.

Soweneedtogotogetsomepetrol.

We'regoingoutfordinnerlater.

Youcandrivemetodinnerinit.

SooverthatheafternoonandeveningIdroveitIthinkcruciallyonfamiliarroadslikemyroadsgoingtomypetrolstationandmycurryhouseandintheendIactuallyfeltlikeitwasmycaryou'reasuccessfullocalbusinessmanaren'tyouowningthefuelstationandowningthecurryhouseohwowandIwasholdingontothekeystheywereinmypocketandbecauseitwasblackthesameasminewasIsortofthoughtitwasmineandIreallygotintoitI'mtotally

totallyenchantedandbewitchednow.

AndnowallIwantagainisa,isa0.1.

Idon'twanta0.2

997GT3.

I'mcompletelyobsessedwithit.

Amentothat.

Iwouldsay.

Yeah.

Incredible.

It's,it's,it'sjustagreatcar.

It'sjustagreatcarthatdoesalotofthingsreallywell.

Butagain,liketheperformanceofitonpapercomparedtoabasemodelCarrera2nowisnothingonpaper.

Butthat'snotwhatit'sabout.

It'sabouthowdoesitfeelthroughyourspineandyourbumcheeks,really.

It'sallaboutthefeel,isn'tit?

It'ssomuchaboutthefeel.

There'ssomuchaboutit.

Ireally,Idowonderwhetherornotweshouldjustbeputtingcarsonspacesavers,youknow,like135sorwhatever,145s.

SomaybeMichelincoulddoaCup2orsomethingina135,145section.

That'seffectivelywhattheToyotadid,isn'tit,withtheGT86?

IsitGT86?

Oh,yeah,that'sonthePriustyres,isn'tit?

Yeah,yeah.

Idowonder.

Idowonderifit'dbegreat.

Theotherweirdthingis,iscominghometonight,IsawaGT3,bea992,IpulledoveratthesideoftheroadintheoppositedirectionontheA1towhereIwasgoing.

Bywhatlookedlike,Iamsureitwasapolicedefender,LandRoverdefender,flashingalltheflashinglights.

AndIthought,well,A,howthehelldidthedefendercatchthe911?

Thisisassumingthe911wasgoingsome.

AndB,Ididn'tknowthepolicehad...

defendersthey'redoingallrightthat'sanexpensivecarexpensivecarnowit'sdefinitelynotaworkingclasscarlikeitusedtobeyeahsouhbutyeahandandofcoursethegtcarsnowaremassiveyeahhugeandthemysonwho'sgoingtobe14thisyearisreallyintoumHe'sgot,whenhewasyounger,hewasn'tsointocars.

Imockhimnowandsay,look,I'vebroughthomethiscarwhenitwasnewandthisandthis.

I'vegotphotosofyousittinginthis.

Andhe'slike,really?

Haveyou?

Iwent,yeah.

Andhedidn'tgiveatoss.

Andnowsuddenlyyou'relike,oh,daddy,whenyoubringhomeaGT3RS,I'mlike,well,Iwilldoatsomepoint.

Oh,comeon,comeon.

I'vedoneitloadsbefore.

Yeah.

Isaid,I'vehadalltheotheronesatsomepointandyoudidn'tevencare.

So,buthe's,he's,helovesthe,thewingsandthe,youknow,I'mmoreofatouringguyandhe'smoreofa,butit'sthat,Ithinkit's,yeah,helikestheventsandthewingsandIlikethe,thesubtlety,Ithink.

Yeah.

So,um,we'vedonebestcar.

Somehowwe'vegotontoPorschesagainfrom,fromDodgeChargers.

Um,what'sthenextcar?

Whathaveyougotlinedup?

What's,what's,what'sonthewishlist?

Thewishlistisa,isa,isaturbulentcar.

terribletemptressyeahumthatdoeschangesointhelastfourweeksyeahit'sgonesomethinglikethiscitroensmatleasttwiceatleasttwiceit'salmostafeverdreamiseeuhjethrowasoutdrivinghisdad'soneattheweekendlooksamazingisn'theSocool.

Whatacoolcar.

It'sanincrediblycoolcar.

Ithinkit'sprobablyavolatilerelationshipcar,butIfeellikemaybeit'smymidlifecrisis.

MaybeIshoulddoit.

Idon'tknow.

It'sthechallengeyouneedtoaccept,Johnny.

Imean,it'srightupyourstreet,isn'tit,Johnny?

Imean,allthethingsthatcouldhappeninaCitroenSM,thatwouldbejust,that'sgotyouwrittenonit.

Content,content,content.

Yeah,aseriousroadtripinwhatiswidelyregardedasthemosttemperamentalcarofalltimeprobablysoI'dloveonesoI'vedonethatI'vedoneHillmanAvengernumeroustimesTigerbecauseit'sacaronmylisthavinggrownuparoundAvengerstheTiger'stheonetohaveandthencompletelylikeaclicheMotoringJournalist911so993C2or

IfIcouldfinda997C2withabsolutelynooptions,Imeannooptions,forsomereasonIwouldreallydigthat.

I'mabitweirdwhenitcomestostufflikethat.

Hasn'tWilliamsCrawfordgotazerooptionone?

No,that'sactuallyafewbits.

It'sgotafewbitsonit.

It'sactuallyquitenicely.

Soitlookslikeanicecar.

I'llsendittoyou.

It'squitecool.

Itisquitecool.

Butyeah,that'sgotsomeniceoptionsonit,actually.

Iknowwhatyou'resayingwiththezerooption.

I'vealwayslikedaprettybasespecCarrera.

There'ssomethingaboutit,isn'tthere?

Doyouknowwhatitis?

It'slikeareallygoodqualityvanillaicecream.

Mostpeoplego,oh,vanillaicecream.

Like,that'stheobviouschoice.

Everyonejustgoesforvanilla.

Butit'slike,yeah,butthere'svanilla,andthenthere'svanilla.

Andareallygoodvanilla,likeareallygoodSundayroast,orifit'sdoneright,justgowithit.

It'sgreat.

Yeah,youdon'tneedthecordonbleu.

No,andIdoworrythatalotofpeoplenow,becausetheyspeccarsup,theytickalotofboxes,andtheybuycarsforthenextowneralmost.

Yeah.

Like,whatareyoudoing?

Straightinforthehardstuff.

You'reabsolutelyright.

Yeah,youknow,itisthough,isn'tit?

Imean,Idon'tdodrugs,butI'mjustusingthatasasortof,youknow.

Yeah,yeah,yeah.

No,you'reabsolutelyright.

I'vejokedonherebefore,exceptI'mnotjoking,ofcourse,thattherearepeoplewho,Ibelievetherearepeoplewhodon'tknowthatthere'sany911otherthanaGT3oraTurboS.

Theydon'tevenknowwhataCarrerais.

ACarrera?

Whatareyoutalkingabout?

Idon'tevenknowwhatthatis.

Andthey'remissingout.

They'remissingout.

Doyouknow,youguyswillknowPorschesbetterthanme,butdoyouknowifyoucan,canyoustilldeleteoptioncertainthings?

Yeah.

Canyou?

Howsimplecouldyoumakeanentry-level911now?

Idon'tevenknow.

Becauseit'ssoluxuriousinside.

Didn'tRichie,Andy,didn't–Imean,youmighthavedrivenit.

Richiehadthatred992,first-gen992.

Yeah,thatwasmybasic.

Thathad,Ithink,onlylike180quid'sworthofoptionsonit.

Yeah.

Andoneofthosewasachangingthebadgeonthebacktothatlittlenine11badge.

AndIcan'trememberwhattheotherthingwas.

Theotherthingwassomethingreallyinnocuousaswell.

Andotherthanthat,therewasnothing.

Andthatwasonthe,thatwasonthefleet.

Thatwasapressfleetcar.

Sothereare,thereare,youknow,thereare,butwhopeoplebuyingthoseprobablynotverymany,probablynotverymany,whichisashame.

Itisashame.

It'sthesamewaythatcolorslikenowwe,welook,Ithink,andit'sa,it's,quiteaPorschething,butyoulookoutforinterestinglycolouredsecondhandonesandgo,oh,wow,someonereallywenttotownonthisone.

Andweapplaudit.

Butyet,whenyoubuyacarnew,alotofpeople,they'requiteconservativeandtheygo,oh,whydidyoubuythatinsilver?

Youcouldhaveboughtthatinyellowor,youknow,achartreusegreenormyfavouritegreen,probably,Porschegreen.

Yeah.

MaybeanIrishgreen.

Imean,Porsche,Ilovegreencars.

Iwashavingthisconversationonmypodcasttheotherweekabout,Idon'tparticularlylikeredcars.

Whatever.

I'dbethelastpersontobuyaredFerrari.

Green.

Somanygoodgreensoutthere.

Doyouknow,therewasalwaysthatthing,wasn'tthere?

WhenIwasakidthatitwasthe,youwouldn't,Peoplewouldn'tbuygreencarsbecausetheywere...

Itwasunlucky,wasn'tit?

Ibelieveitwasunlucky,andIdon'tknowthereason.

Youdon'tknowthereasonforit.

No,Idon't.

Iheardsomebodytalkingaboutthattheotherday,andIwaslike,yeah,Idorememberthat.

Itwasahugething.

Itwas.

Greencarsdidn'thappenbackthen.

Well,it'sweird,though,isn'tit?

NobodycallsitBritishunluckyracinggreen.

Green,yeah.

Idon'tthinkweneedtolookintothis.

Myparentsboughtagreencarbrandnewandthat'swhatI'dlearnttodriveinandthat'swhatIremember.

AndIthinkmaybethat'swhyIlikegreencarsbecauseIrememberthisforestgreenmetalliccarallthetime.

I'mjustintoit.

Andalsoit'sthekindofnature.

Isn'tit?

Flourishingnature.

Soifyoubinitintoahedge,youcancoveritupandnoonewillsee.

God,IwishIcouldhavedonethat.

Whatcolourwasthat?

Itwaswhite.

Iknewitcouldbewhite.

Here'saquestionforyou,John.

I'vegotaquestionforyou.

Soyou'vegotabitofmoneyinyour...

inyourbackburner.

It'sburningaholeinyourpocket.

Andyou'representedatthesamepricewithareally,reallynice993Carrera2manualcoupe.

Nicething.

Anda997.1

GT3.

They'rethesamemoney.

Sothey'relike80grandorsomething.

Acoupleofnicecars.

Whichonedoyoubuy?

Oh,bums.

You'reabadman.

CouldI...

Socouldthe997...

CouldtheGT3bethecomfortpackandIcouldputabackseatinit,backinit?

Yeah,yeah,yeah.

Okay,yeah.

Tonyisstrokinghisfaceinaratherstrangewayasyoulistentothis.

Thisisaconundrum,aconundrum.

I'dprobablygo997GT3.

However,however,however,Ithinkthe993isprobablyaprettiercar.

Ithinkthe997GT3isprobablyamorefuncarforme.

Andalso,the997GT3isamoremoderncar.

SocomparedtothecarsI'vegotthatIown,Iownalotof60s,70s,80scars.

Tohavea997,it'sanoughtiescar.

AndIthinkthereisabitofnostalgiainmewhogoes,Irememberdrivingthatwhenitwasnewandithadarealwowsound.

Yeah,Ilovethatstoryofyougoingoffatthemiddleofthenight.

That'sjustamazing.

Imean,dude,IcansaythisnowbecauseI'mdivorced,buttherewasanother9-11.

ItwasaTarga.

Itwasa997TargawhentheybroughtbacktheTargaafteralittlesabbatical.

Yeah,yeah,yeah.

SoIhadoneofthoseandmeandmythenwifehadamassiverowandIcan'trememberwhatitwasabout.

Itwouldhavebeenaboutbeingtiredparents.

Atthetimeshe,wehadarowandIstormedoutthehouseandallItook,Ididn'ttakeawallet.

IrememberIjusttookthekeytothenine11andIwentforalongdrivejusttocooloffandjustthinkabouttheworld.

Anditwasgreat.

Ienjoyedit.

ThenIcamebackandI'dbeenlockedoutandItriedtophone,Itriedtophoneandsheturnedherphoneoffanditwaslike,youain'tcomingbacktonight.

IhadallIhadwasa,wasanine11,apresscar.

withafulltankoffuelandtheclothesthatIwasin.

AndIwentforalongdrive,gotthecabinniceandhot.

AndthenIwentdownabacklane,reclinedtheseatandtriedtogotosleep.

Wasitacoldnight?

Howlongdidittake?

Itwasoneofthoseoneswhereaboutthreeorfourinthemorningwhenthetemperatureproperlydips,you'relike,thisisnotcomfortable.

Idon'tenjoythis.

Idon'twanttodothis.

ButIdidwanttosleeponmyowndriveinthecarbecausethatwouldlookextrasad.

SoIwasjustdownacountrylane,lookingabitweirdinabrandnewPorscheatthetime.

AndIjustthoughttomyself,whatamIdoing?

ButIrememberthat.

ItookmydaughteroutforseveraldrivesinthatwhenshewasveryyoungintoalittleRecarokiddieseat,andshewasinthebackoftheTarga.

Sotheglasshousegoesallthewayback,doesn'tit?

Andshelovedit.

Sheremembersittothisday.

AndI'vegotathingforTargas,Ihavetosay.

Foralongtime,theywereabitdismissed.

Yes,yeah.

Didn'tRichardhaveaTargaforalongtime?

No,hehada...

Ohno,itwasCoupe,wasn'tit?

Yeah,hehadanS.

HehadaBasaltBlack997.

Yeah,secondgen997,Ithink,wasn'tit?

Yes,andheverymuchloveditanduseditalot.

Butyeah,webothlikeTargas.

I'vegotathingforaTarga.

Infact,that997,yeah,whenitfirstcameout,Ithought,wow,they'vedonesuchagoodjobonthat.

Andthey'vekeptitup,Ithink.

They'vedonereallygoodTargassince.

SoI'mdownforaTarga.

Yeah,I'mdownforaTarga.

Iquitefancya997Targa,actually.

We'rejusttheseidiotsthatjustbuycarsinourhead.

We'rejustfantasybuying,aren'twe,allthetime?

Yeah,that'smylife.

Welcometomyworld.

There'ssomanycars.

Speakingofwhich...

Speakingofwhich,I'vegotaquestionaboutacarforyou,whichIknowyouknowallabout.

Okay.

AndI'mthinkingaboutitinthecontextof2025.

Isitagoodcartoownandtouse?

Right.

TheoriginalHondaInsight.

Oh,hellyeah.

God,yeah.

Hellyeah.

Okay,so...

They'recool.

ThethingabouttheHondaInsightisobviouslythelooksaredivisivebecauseit'squiteanunusuallookingalien.

Ilovethem.

Yeah,Ido.

Butevenifyoudon'tlikethat...

butyouappreciateengineering.

Asapieceofengineering,it'sanabsolutetourdeforce.

Andit'ssosatisfyingtodriveinthatwaythatwe'vetalkedabout,inthatit'sahybrid,soit'snot,andit'satinyengine.

It'sgotnotorque.

It'snotfast,butyoucancarryloadsofmomentumwithit.

It'llcornerreallywell.

Thesteering'sjustadelight.

Thedrivingpositionandthecomfort,Imean,I'vecanemilesonmine.

Andbecauseit'sallaluminiumandit'shandmade,itfeelslikeit'snotgoingtogoanywheresoon.

AndI've,yeah,likeIsaid,I'veownedittwice.

It'sdone,ithadits,ItookitbacktoHondatohaveitsservicetwoweeksago.

It'sdone335,000miles.

Bloodyhell.

Andit'sstillhottotrot.

It'samazing,isn'tit?

Everycarfanaticshoulddriveonebeforetheydoit.

It'soneofthosecarsyoushouldjusttryittounderstandwhatit'sabout.

I'vedrivenacouple.

I'vetest-driventhemacoupleoftimesandbeensoclosetobuyingbutjustdidn'tdoit.

Iseemtohavelotsofparallelswithyourdrivingcareerandyourcarownershipcareer,butthere'sonethingthatyoualwaysseemtohavedone,whichisbuythebloodythings,andI'vejusttest-driventhem.

butyeahIwasyeahthatinsightIlovedthatthingit'sjustIdon'tknowit'sjustsomethingdifferentaswellisn'titIthinkwe'vebothgottheloveforsomethingweirdthey'realsoincrediblygoodvalueformoneystillaretheystillyouknowthey'restillreallygoodvalueformoneylikeyoucanbuyanimmaculateoneforlikesevenoryoucanbuyreallyyeahyeahoryoucanbuyaleggyoneforthreeyouknowandandthere'sagain,there'sareally

stronglike,um,ownersforumandthere'sloadsofhacksyoucandotothemnow.

LikeIputsuspensiononmine,whichIfilmeditforavideoandIhaven'tputitoutyet,butIputadjustablecoiloversonthebackand,um,there'safewdifferentmodsyoucando,whichreallyimprovethem.

Yeah.

Uh,Imighthavetoscratchthatitchstill.

It'sstilldoing,mine'sstilldoing78tothegallon,likeregularly.

Yeah.

Thiswastheworld'sfirstmass-produced,definitely,100-mile-per-galloncar.

Yeah.

Anditwastheworld'sfirsthybridthatwassoldglobally.

SothePriusbeatitbyaboutninemonths,butthatwasJapanesedomesticmarketonly,thatGen1.

Also,theGen1Priuslooksshit.

Yes,absolutely.

Andit'sjustnevergoingtobecool,inmyeyes,whereastheHondadrivesreallywell.

LikeithasthesteeringofaLotus.

ItfeelslikeasortofecoLotus.

It'sgreat.

Honda'sarecool,aren'tthey?

Honda's,Hondaaresuchgreatengineers,aren'tthey?

Suchagreatengineeringbusiness.

Ithinkthey'rebrilliant.

I'veinadvertentlyownedalotofHondasoflateandit'snotbecauseof,theyhaven't,Ihaven'tsoughtthem.

They'vesoughtme.

That'smyexcuseanyway.

DidyouhaveaMarkICivic?

I'veneverhadaMarkICivic.

I'vetriedtobuyone.

I'vehad,I'vegot,IboughtaCivicformykidstolearntodrivein,whichistheEP2shapeorwhatevertheycallit.

Theonewiththegearstickcomingoutofthedashboard.

AndI'vegotanElement.

Yeah,they'recool.

IftheybroughttheElementback,pleasebringtheElementback.

Itwouldjustbeamazing.

I'veownedanS600Coupe1965.

Honda'sfirstsportscar.

Honda'sfirstpropercar.

Andthatthingwas,again,asapieceofengineering,oh,myword.

Imean,thatthingwouldrevto11.

Someoftheguysintheclubsaiditrevvedto12.

Jeez.

Thatwasa600cc,four-cylinder,four-carb,needleroller-bearingcrankcarthatwoulddo100milesanhourin1964.

Wow.

WhenwewerebuyingMGmidgets,youdecidewhichoneyou'dratherhave.

Yeah.

It'sanotherworld,isn'tit?

That'ssotrick.

That'satrick.

Honestly,thatcarwasunbelievable.

ThebacksuspensionalonewasascomplicatedasaSwisswatch.

Imean,IhadameltdowntryingtofindpartsforitandthenrealizedIcouldn'tfitinit.

SoIhadsoldit.

Oh,really?

Isthatwhyyousoldit?

Genuinely.

Tobehonestwithyou,Acombinationofcouldn'treallyfitinit,soIcouldn'tshutthedoormorethanoneclickbecausemykneewouldn'tgoanywhere,myrightknee.

AndCOVIDcamealong,andbeingself-employedanditbeingreallytricky,itwaslike,you'regoingtohavetosellsomecars.

AndtheHonda.

TheHondawasverycollectibleabroad.

ItsoldtoacollectorinSingapore,Ithink.

So,yeah,youknow,youcan'tkeepthemall.

No,no.

Weweresayingearlierthatyou'vehad130,140cars.

Yeah.

That'ssomelist.

Whathaveyoucurrentlygot?

What'sleft?

Okay,soI'veactuallybeenabadman.

I'vequiteabadmaninthelastyear.

I'vegotmorecarsratherthanlesscars.

I'vegottheAustinAllegroTypeRsleeperproject,whichcontinuestobechallenging.

Butwe'llgetthere.

I'vegottheDodgeCharger,theBeetle,Nissan,Cedric,TokyoTaxi.

That'scool.

Lovethat.

Yeah,Idolikethat.

Thatcar'ssosmooth.

I'vegottheBoxster,smartBrabusRoadster.

Brilliantcar.

TheHondaInsight,theHondaElement,theCivic.

sortofchildren'sfieldcarumohi'vegotamatraranchowhichiboughtonacompletewhimfromafieldincornwallthat'soneoftherarestcarscoolit'soneoftherarestcarsintheworldyeahyeahdoyouknowhowmanyareontheroadoneofmyfavoritemajorettetoycarsibetwickedyeahlovethemwhatlessthan10maybeontheroadreallyohIt'srarerthanaFerrari250GTObyacountrymile.

God.

Whatsortofstate'sthatin?

Terrible.

Isitreallyproperrotten?

Excusemylanguage.

Becausetheywererottenwhentheycameoutofthefactory,basically,weren'tthey?

WiththatrattlyoldTolbertengine.

Oh,yeah.

Itdeservestobesaved,though.

Well,Igotarealthingforthemasakidofthe80s.

Theylookedsoaheadoftheirtime.

Socool.

Theyweresoaheadoftheirtime.

So...

Yeah,Ihadtosavethat.

Johnny,whatenginewouldyouputinthatifyou'regoingtoresthimonitaspartofyoursavingit?

Whatwouldbetherightengineinthat?

Canyoukeepasecret?

Yeah,yeah,ofcourse.

I'mnotactuallydoingthisbecauseIdon'thavethemoney,butifIcoulddothis.

IjokedtoRobertSingeronce.

TheoneandonlytimeI'vemethim,wewereinabar.

Andafterafewdrinks,Isaid,I'mgoingtogiveyouaMataranchooneandyou'regoingtobloodySingerit.

Andhelaughedandhewent,yeah,yeah,maybe.

AndIwent,no,seriously,you'regoingtosingit.

AndIworkedoutonthosesillywebsiteswhereyoucandowheelbasecalculationswithothercars.

It'sgottheexactwheelbaseofaSubaruImprezaWRX.

Oh,perfect.

AndtheRanchowasneverfour-wheeldrive.

Italllookedgood,didn'tit?

So,hello,comeon.

Imagine,justimaginethat.

Brilliant.

I'min.

Yeah.

Imean,likeifIhadasparehundred,200grandinmybackpocketandIthought,let'sjustdosomethingdirty.

Yeah.

Weird.

AndthenyoucangiveittoTravistodothevideo.

Honestly,Ireallywould.

Ireallywould.

Soyeah,Iactuallydon'tknowwhatother,Oh,IknowanothercarthatI'veforgottenaboutthecarthatI'veownedfor20yearsthisyearandstillneverdrivenit.

Um,ChevroletImpalaSupersport,1964.

Thelowrider,whichthenever-endingstory,asmyfriendscallit,thatI'llprobablyneverfinish.

ButIwillfinishitbecauseIhaveto.

Bloodycool,thatis.

Well,I'vespentmoremoneyonthatcar,genuinely,thananyothercarI'veeverowned.

Andtheenginehasn'tevenrun.

I'veneverdrivenit.

It'sdespicable.

I'macompletecartragic.

Butdoyouloveit?

Doyouknowwhat?

WhenIseeit,whenIopenthedooroftheworkshopandIstandthereandIlookatit,Igo,wow,ithasareal,itisafantasticcarandIlovetheshapeofit.

Theworkthat'sbeendonetoithasbeendonetoareallyhighstandard.

It'sjust,it'soneofthoseprojectsthatinhindsight,Iwoulddoitinadifferentway.

IwouldtackleitinadifferentwayandIwouldplanitbetter.

I'mnotaplanner,unfortunately,anditbitesyouwhenyoudon'tplan.

Preparetofailorfailtoprepareorwhateverthesayingis.

It'strue.

Butthatcar,yeah,it'sstunning.

It'sstunningtolookat.

I'mkindofbuildingitformysonnowbecauseIcaughthimwatchingLowridervideosabouttwo,threeyearsagoonYouTube.

Ileantoverhisshoulderandwent,oh,it'sa64Impala.

I'vegotoneofthose.

Hegoes,no,youhaven't.

reallyandiandisaidisaiddarlingiihaveoneofthosecarsi'veactuallyownedtwobutyeahi'vegotoneofthosethat'sactuallyasupersporti'vegotasupersportandhewentidon'tbelieveyouproveitandiwentit'sthatthingisaidthere'sthatcarthatyou'dneverseethatthegoldoneandishowedhimhewentwhatandthisisthethinghehewasn'treallyintocarsformanyyearswasthattheswitchyeahyeahwhatdidyeahwhatwhatdidturnhimdoyouthinkIthinkitwascomingtotheendofprimaryschooland

thengoingtosecondary,whichisabigstep,isn'tit?

Andthenhearinghisfriendstalkaboutsupercars,becauseobviouslysupercarsisaboydreamthing.

Well,Iknowgirlstoo,becausemydaughter'sprobablymorecar-ythanmyson.

Andthensuddenly,probablyhismatesfindingoutwhatIdidforajob,seeingmeoccasionallypullingupindifferentcarsnotnotalotofsupercarsumandthenhismatesgoingohyouknowireallywanttoownathiswheni'molderireallywanttowinthatwheni'molderanduhandithinkthat'sthat'ssortofspooledtheturboupandhe'she'ssuddenlygonewellhangonaminutelikei'vebeentoloadsofcarshowsasayoungkiddidn'treallyithought

itwasjustnormalandthenherealizednonomaybenotimeanhe'sprobablybeentomorecarshowsthanbeforehewassixyearsoldthanmostpeoplebeforethey're16.

Yeah.

AndthenI,butIthinknowhe'sfindingthecarshelikes.

Heloves,uh,nine11GTthrees.

HelovesMXfiveswithflipupheadlights.

Heloves,um,hereallylikestheDodgebyDodge.

Yeah.

Um,sohe'sfindinghis,hisfindingsyou,butIdidn'twanttoforcethecarthingonmychildren.

Causeyoudon'twanttobeadadthatforcesyourhobbyandyourpassionon,um,onothersandthenrepelsthemreallysoyougottabutbothmykidsenjoywatchingdragracingbecausei'vetakenthemtosantapodtowatchdragcarssincetheyweretinybecauseijustfinditquitefunandit'sagoodit'sagoodinterestingnoiseandit'sgrassrootsandyeahandi'mgonnajustkeeptakingthemtodifferentcarshowsandhopefully

they'llI'llpickitup.

Theybothenjoy,well,mydaughterlovesdriving,loveskarting.

AndifIcouldaffordit,I'dputherthroughakartingschoolandgethertokicksomeass.

But,Itneedstobedone.

Itneedstobedone.

Well,I'm,I'mtoobusyspendingmoneyonit.

Youknow,reallyimportant.

Yeah.

Andtheempirethatalwaysmakesmethinkofthefilmboysinthehood.

Isthattheright?

AmIthinkingoftheright?

I'mprettymuchintherightspace.

Ilovethatmovie.

Iknowthat'sanopentoponeinboysinthehood,butallthatstuff.

Ah,wicked.

Iwatchedthatfilmforthefirsttimelastmonth,uh,forthefirsttimein,it'sgottabe20yearswithmynephew.

Who's,18.

AndIsaid,look,you'llappreciatethis.

Watchit.

Andit'ssuchagoodfilm.

And,andI,Iwatchedittheyearthatcameoutandithadaveryprofoundeffectonme.

Andthat'soneofthereasonswhyI'vegotabloodyImpalaandwhyIhada,uh,MarkoneGranadaon,onhydraulicsthat,Imean,whointheirrightmindwoulddriveeveryday,alowriderthattheydon'tevenhave.

Youdon'tevenhaveadrive.

Youhaveonstreetparkinginarentedhouse,uh,Soyoudon'tevenhaveagaragetoworkonit.

Imean,whata19-year-oldfoolIwas.

IspenteverysinglepennythatIearnedoncars.

Yeah.

It'sacrazyaddiction,isn'tit?

Itreallywas.

It'sthatcommitmenttothecause,Johnny,that'smadeyouthemanyouaretoday,iswhatitis.

Isaidtopeople,I'mlike,whydidyoudoit?

BecauseIjustdidn'tthinktherewasanyotherthingthatIshoulddo.

Thisiswhatyoudo.

Youearnmoneyandyeah,youknow,you'llgooutandhaveafewjarsnowandagainandyoutryandbesuccessfulwithwomen.

Butultimately,I'dtryandbuyinterestingcarsandgoonroadtripsandpickuptheyellowpaperandgo,look,there'sthatfor200quid.

Let'sgoandgetittomorrow.

Andthat'swhatwedid.

That'sbasicallyit.

Haveyoueverbeenovertheyearsintoapositionyou'vegotyourselfandyouthought...

God,Ijustneedtogetoutofallofthisandbenormal.

Haveyoueverthoughtthat?

Yeah,Ihaveactually.

ProbablysettingupmyownYouTubechannelwasabig,itwasabigjumpanditwas,Iwantedtotryit.

Iprobablydidn'trealisequitehowintenseitwouldbeintermsofworkload.

Andofcourse,comparedtoTV,whereTVhassortofpeaksandtroughsofenergylevels.

Youdeliveraseriesofshowsandthenthere'salullandthenyoupromoteitandthenyougoagain.

Theproblemwiththeinternet,it'sjustabig,bigwhalethatjustswimsthroughtheoceanandinhaleswhateverisinitspath.

Andpeoplego,yeah,that'sagreatvideo.

When'syournextone?

That'sagreatvideo.

When'syournextone?

AndYourunoutofenergy.

Andalso,yousortof,likeanyself-employedperson,Isuppose,youcanletitconsumeyou.

Andyouforgetthatyou'reactuallyincontrolofthebreakandtheclutchhere.

Youshouldbetheonethatsays,I'monlygoingtoworkthisamountofhoursorputthisnumberofvideosout.

AndIthinkprobably2021,2022,I...

gottoseveralpoints,almostbreakingpoints.

Iwaslike,Idon'tenjoythisanymore.

IthinkI'mgoingtohavetojustrunaway.

Andactuallythat'swhyIdon't,Iknowitsoundsawful,butIdon'twatchalotofcarcontentonYouTubebecauseIneedabreakfromit.

And,um,Yeah.

YoucanODonit,can'tyou?

Youcanoversaturate.

Absolutely.

Sothat'swhyIjustgoand,Igoandlikestrokemycatorsitinthegardenandjust,justchill.

Idolikedoing,youknow,Ido.

That's,Ithinkthat'swhyhistoricallyclassiccarswasalwaysmyhobby.

Yeah.

And,andmoderncarswasmy,mywork,mybusiness.

Andthatwouldbethedivision.

Itinkerwitholdshittersintheshedandthatwouldbemytherapy.

Yeah.

mydowntime.

AndthenI'dgoanddrivethenew,whateveritwas.

Sowouldthatbelikethefifthgearandthefullychargedera?

Yeah,itwould.

And,and,and,uh,andIalwaysenjoyedthat.

Butofcoursenow,uh,withYouTubeandthewayit'sgone,the,the,the,thepassionandthepastimeandthebusinesshavedonethisandit's,It'sreallyexcitingsometimes,butalsoitcanbequitedamaging.

Andyoudorunoutofloveforstuffandyouhavetojustshutthegaragedoororyoujustgo,Ijustwanttogoforawalk.

Idon'twanttogetinacar.

I'vebeendrivingacarallweekandsatonmyass.

Iactuallyjustreallywanttowalk.

SoIdoenjoywalking.

Andpeoplego,butyou'reacarnut.

It'sthesamewaythatpeoplego,I'veseenyoudrivingEVs.

You'resupposedtobeacarfanatic.

AndIgo,Iamacarfanatic.

It'sjustthere'sdifferenttoolsfordifferentjobs.

AndIthinkthatEVsworkinlotsofdifferentcircumstances.

Theydon'tworkforeverybody.

AndIwasthefirstjournalisttodrivetheTaycan.

I'vejustrememberedthat.

Gottheworldexclusiveonthatbloodycar.

Thatwasgoodfun.

AndsoIthinkthatyouhaveto–Idosometimescraveaninetofive,goingbacktoyouroriginalquestion.

Ithinkbeingamotoringjournalistformagazinesfirstandnowonlinestuff,youdon'treallyhaveapatternofworkandtime.

AndsoIdosometimeswhenthingsgetreallyintenseoryougetbombardedwithstufforyourpersonallifetakesabitofahammering,youdogo,IwishIjusthadapredictableworkpattern.

Iworkedforsomebodyandthenjustcamehomeanddidwhatsomeofmyfriendsdo.

TheymeeteveryTuesdayandtheydoathing.

AndtheymeeteveryThursdayandtheydoathing.

AndI'mlike,Ican'ttellyouthat.

LikethisThursday,I'mdrivingthenewRenault4onthelaunchinPortugal.

I'msorry,butIam.

Idon'tmaketherules.

That'swhenit'sbeinglaunched.

I'msorry.

Anditcanbereallyfrustrating.

However...

Thetrade-offisyougettodothingsthatmoneycan'tbuyandyougettodrivecarsthatyoucan'tafford.

Somecrazystuff,yeah.

Yougettomeetsomereallyinterestingpeople.

AndIthinktheolderIget,themoreI'minterestedinthepeoplebehindthecarsratherthanthecars.

Yeah,thestory.

Yeah,yeah,becausethecarsarefineandthecarsaregreat.

But,like,youknow,wecouldgotoa–wecouldhavealittlePorschegatheringnowandthere'dbealineofcars,alineofGT–threesandthesameofthoseandalineofthoseandthey'reallthesamebutactuallyit'swhenyougetchattingtoacoupleofthepeopleandtheythere'sathere'ssomesortofbondandacommonpassionandyeahandwhenidothebarnfindsonmyonmyyoutubechannelthat'swhyilikethebarnfindsthebestactuallybecauseit'snotjustmetalit's

thesentimentthatjustcomesoutandtheemotionandactuallywiththemostemotionalbarnfindi'veeverdonewasaladyexcuseme,whoselatehusbandhada911SC.

Yeah.

Andwhichwashandeddowntohimfromhisdadwhopassedaway.

Andshehaditandshe'dlosthimabout18monthsprevious.

Andshewasjustlookingforsomeonetobuyitwhowasright.

Shesaid,it'snotaboutthemoney.

I'vegottomakesurethiscarisgiventotherightperson.

Ifthey'renottherightmanorwoman,I'mnotgivingittothem.

Yeah.

Andsheaskedalldayoffcamera,shewassaying,Ireallywantyoutobuythiscar,Johnny.

AndI'mlike,look,Iwouldlovetobuythiscar,butIknowIcan'taffordit.

Icouldfleeceyouandtellyouit'sworth12grandwhenit'sworth45.

Butyeah,itwasquiteemotionalbecauseshewastearinguptalkingaboutallthehappytimesthatshe'dhadinit.

Andthat'sthethingaboutallthesecars.

It'slike,it'snotjustaboutthewaytheycornerandtheyaccelerate.

It'sthememories,isn'tit?

It'sthethingsthatyou'vedoneinit,thethingsthatyou'veachieved,thingsthatyou'vedonewithotherpeople.

Itsparksoffallofthosegoodfeelings.

Yeah,yeah,yeah.

Andthat'swhyweshouldusethemandweshouldsharethemwithotherpeopleandcreatethosememoriesforothers.

Like,youknow,youdriveyourcardownthestreetonanicesunnydaysundayafternoonandpeoplegotheremighttheremightbeakidthatgoeswowlookatthatyeahi'veneverseenacarlikethatbeforeorlookatthatcolorisn'titwildyeahortheoddsickshoutalwaysseemstohappenmateorcanyoudothatmateyeahlikethatrevityeahyeahyeahi'llstickitonthelimiterandjustlikespinabearingjustforyouyeahIcan'tbearthelimiter,thrashingonthelimiter

thing.

Doyouknowwhat?

Ijustthinkit'sreallyretarded.

AmIallowedtosaythat?

Itis,isn'tit?

Yeah,youare.

Dosomethingartistic.

It'slike,youknow,justifyou'regoingtodosomethinglikethat,dosomethinginvolvingcarcontrol.

Don'tjustsitthebastard'scaronthelimiter.

You'rebasicallysayingyou'vegotnomechanicalsympathyatall.

Yeah.

Atall.

Yeah.

Strange,isn'tit?

Strangebehavior.

Youwouldn'tkickyourowndog,wouldyou?

infrontofpeopleatleast,becausethat'sjustanastythingtodo.

That'swhatyou'redoingwithputtingyourengineonthelimiterfornoreason.

Justlike,just.

Yeah.

There'saquestion,Johnny.

I've,I'veactuallywantedtoaskyouforquitealongtime.

Curiosity.

Ipromiseit'stheonlyseriousquestionI'llask.

Andit's,it'saboutthetransitionwhenyou,whenyousetupyourYouTubechannel,youknow,whichhasbeena,youknow,aroaringsuccessandallconsumingone,asyousay,but,youknow,producingsomereallywonderfulcontent.

Butatthetime,youknow,as,asanobserver,asIwas,and,and,andstillI'maskingpeople,Johnny'sa,Johnny'sapropermotoringjournalist,youknow,inprintandonthetelevision,youknow,YouTubersforthemostpartaren't.

Ithought,Iwonder,Iwonderhow,Iwonderwhatthe,feelingsarehere,notnecessarilyathought,thethoughtprocess,youknow,youcanseehowweknowwhatthedirectionwas,butIwonderedhowyoufeltaboutit.

Yeah.

Youknow,lookingatthe,someofthepeoplewhoweredoingthatatthetime,noteveryone,andmaybeit'sadifferentlandscapenow,butIjustwonderedhow,howthat,howthat,howthatwas.

It'sagoodquestion.

Cause,causeIpondereditforalongtimeand,um,influencesorthatkindoftermthatwasgiventoalotofpeopleonsocialmedia,um,Alotofjournalistswerereallyholdingthosepeopleatarm'slength,actually.

Therewasabitofathemandusonlaunchesofcars.

Ithinkwhathappenedwasitwasacombinationofthings.

I'ddonetheTVfor,I'ddoneFifthGearfor19series.

Alongtime.

Howwasitthatlong?

Yeah,Ididitin2006.

Youdon'tlookoldenough,Jonny.

well,Idon'tlook,I'llgiveyouanicebottleofwineandaniceChristmas.

Iappreciateit.

ButsoIthink,Ithink,IthinkIdon'tknowquitealotof,of,offifthgear.

Andthetruthofthematterwasthe,thebudgetsforTVweredwindlingbecauseTVwaslosingouttoalotofonlineplatforms.

Yeah.

Um,peoplewereableto,createbetterandbettercontent.

AndsothecaliberofstuffonYouTubewashigherandhigher.

Andalso,IusedtogetfrustratedwithcertainthingsonTV.

Anddon'tgetmewrong,IreallyenjoyedworkingontheTV.

It'sgivenmeloadsofgreatopportunitiesandI'mproudofalotofit.

Butwhatitdoesdoisithastodumbstuffdownformainstreamconsumerism.

SowhenIwantedtonerdoutondetail,Itwouldn'tletmeortheywouldedititoutbecauseultimatelyIwasjustapresenter.

IwasapaidheadandthenIcouldn'tcontroltheedit.

So,andIgotabitjadedreallyaboutpitchingTVideas,carideas.

TVideastoproductioncompanieswhomostlydidn'tunderstandthecarworld.

Andwe'realwaysjustlookingtohowcouldweintroducefamouspeopleintothis?

Howcouldwemakeitabitsilly?

Anditwaslike,no,youdon'tneedtodothat.

SodoingFullyChargedasaYouTubechannelwhenIwasworkingwithRobertLlewellyn,Ireally,reallyenjoyeddoingthat.

Anditwasrefreshing.

AndIguessIsawthewayhebuiltthatbrandup.

Andhe'ddoneitoutofrealpassionandrealfocusand,uh,wasmaking,uh,makingcarreviewsandvideosthatweretelevisionquality.

AndsoIwaslike,well,ifyoucanmaketelevisionqualityandpeoplearestartingtowatchYouTubeasatelevisionshow.

Sonotjust10minutesorfiveminutes,fullhalfhourepisodes,likeaTVshow,maybeIshouldtryit.

And,and,and,andIgot,itwaseveryChristmas.

Ialwayshavea,abitofextratimeoffandIdoarealbitoflifereflection.

Ishouldprobablydoitmorethanonceayear.

ButChristmasiswhenIreallydoit.

Ireallywinddownandgo,right,newyear,whatdoIwanttododifferently?

WhatamIhappywith?

WhatamInothappywith?

Andallthatstuff.

AndIthinkmythenwifesaid,look,youworkforotherpeople.

Yougetintoanagewhereyoushouldbuildsomethingforyourself.

That'swhatyoushoulddo.

You'vegotalotofcontacts.

Justdoit.

Andifyou'regoingtodoit,bloodydoitwell.

Jumpinwithbothfeetanddoitwithconvictionandactuallytohercredit.

Iwouldn'thaveprobablydoneitorIwouldn'thavedoneitonthelevelthatI'vedoneitifitweren'tforhersaying,doit,butdoit.

Andofcourse,startingaYouTubechannelattheageof40isnotwhatmostpeopledo.

ifIwasstilllivingathomewithmyparentsanddidn'thavetheoverheadsanddidn'thaveafamilyoranyofthoseworries,youkindofwingitabitmore.

ButIthinkbecauseIworkedonTVandbecauseIwasajournalistbackground,IthoughtifI'mgoingtodothis,it'sgottobeproper.

It'sgottohaveabitofcredibilityandI'vegottoreally,makesurethatpeoplecangobackandwatcholdervideosandgo,yeah,youknow,thatwasafairlysolidpieceofworkbecausedon'tgetmewrong.

I'vedonesometerriblevideos.

Theyhaven'tallworked,butI've,I'vetriedmybestwiththeresourcesI'vegot.

And,andtothatend,IthoughtI'vegottomakeitlooklikeaTVshowbecausethat'swherepeoplehave,alotofpeoplehavefollowedmefrom,fromTV.

Ifilmitallonmyphoneinawobblyway.

wayit'sgoingtolooklikeI'vehadamassivefallfromgraceIknowthissoundsabitkindofpretentiousbutitmightlooklikeI'vehadamassivefallfromgraceandI'mjustphoningitinasitwereandIcan'tdothatIdon'twanttodothatIwanttoreallyputmybackintoitsothat'swhyIdiditthatwayanditallowedmetonerdoutandthat'swhatYouTubeallowsyoutodoifIwanttodoahalfhournicheyoucouldgetinthenicheyeahYeah,ifIwanttodooneepisode

of25minutesallaboutwhyPorschein1972puttheoilfillercapontherearquarterpanelratherthanintheenginebay,youcoulddoit.

Andiftherewasahookandtherewasagoodintervieworanarchiveclipthatyoucouldgetyourhandsonandyoucouldtryandconvincepeoplethatitwasaninterestingthingtowatch,goforit.

Bloodygoforit.

AndIthinkthat'swhat'sreallygoodaboutsocialmedia.

And,uh,andofcoursenow,youknow,TikTok'stryingtokillYouTubeandInstagramsomewhereinthemiddleandFacebook'shavingabigrenaissance.

And,uh,yeah,Facebook,Facebook'sreallybig.

Imean,don'tgetmewrong.

I'mnotonitasmeasJohnnySmith.

Butmyshow,mychannelisonit.

Oh,really?

Yeah,yeah.

ButImean,IdopayafreelancetodothatbecauseI'mterrifiedofFacebookincase,Idon'tknow,anoldgirlfriendstalksmeorsomething.

Idon'tknow.

OrFacebookMarketplace,whichisapparentlyanabsolutegoldmineforpeoplewhosellperfectlygoodcarsbutcan'tbebotheredtotakepicturesofthemorwritedescriptionsandtheyjustgo,carforsale,giveme50quidnowinthenexttwohours,otherwiseI'm...

earnit.

Andyoufindoutthatit'sanangrydivorceescareer.

Idon'tknow,butIcan'tdoit.

Ithinkyou'rewisetokeepawayfromit,mate.

Ithinkyou'd,you'dbefillingupanother,well,anotherunitsomewhere.

Yeah,Ican'tdoit.

Ican'tdoit.

So,soyeah,sothat's,andI,andIsuppose,yeah,I've,I'vereached,I'mreallyhappywiththewaythelatebreakshowsgrownorganicallyand,hasitgrowndifferentlytohowyouanticipatedsodidyouwhenyoufirstsetitupdidyouthinkrightI'mgoingtohavethissortofI'mgoingtohaveaplaylistforthisplaylistforthatplaylistforthisI'mgoingtodothistypeofvideoandwhat'schangedit'schangedabitinthatIsupposeyouhavetobeayou

havetobebusinessminded.

You'realwaysweighinguplikethe,Iwantto,Iwantagoodvarietyontheshow.

Causethatwasalwaystheideaofthechannel.

Iwantagoodvariety.

Iwanttobalance,youknow,IwanttobringtogetherthisideaofyoucanappreciateelectricEVs,V8s.

Um,youcangointopeople'sprivategarages.

Youcan,wecandobarnfinds.

Wecan,you'llseesomeofmyowncarsandmyowntragicprojectsandthings.

Andthere'sno,uh,elitismoranythinglikethat.

Yeah.

Um,but,certainthingsalwaysworkbetterthanothers.

Andthenwhenyouhaveasuccessfulvideo,youthink,oh,well,itworkedreallywelllasttime.

Solet'sdoanotheroneofthose.

Andthenitdoesn'tdothesameaswhattheotheronedid.

Andyou'relike,damnthis.

AndIguessItryandexplainittopeople.

Iguessit'slikebeinginabandwhenyouwriteahitsonganditjustfliesandyougo,wow,wewrotethatinlike10minuteswhenwewereonateabreakandwehadnoideaitwasevergoingtobeourbiggesthit.

youtryanddoitagain.

Andthenyoutrytodoitagain.

Ifweallknewhowtodoit,it'sbloodyhell.

Wewouldjustkeepdoingit.

Wouldn'twe?

Andit's,itjustdoesn't,itdoesn'talwaysworkthatway.

So,um,yeah,I'mtryingtoalwaysbalancelike,thisismybusiness.

I'veput,Ihaveputallmyeggsinthebasketof,uh,achannel.

Okay.

Idoapodcastaswell,but,um,Soithastosucceedasabusiness.

I'vegotafamilyandI'vegotoutgoingsandlikeallthisstuff.

AndIwouldliketofinishmyImpalaandmyAllegro.

AndI'dliketobuyani11GT3.

Butatthesametime,youknow,likeatthesametime,Iwantittobeauthentic.

AndIwanttokeepexploringthecarworldfurtherbecauseit'ssucharichmine.

AndalsoIwanttotry,ifIcan,insomesmallway,inspireanewergenerationayoungergenerationofcarfanaticsbecauseidoworrythere'sgoingtobeahugevoidofpeoplethatmightnotwanttogetadrivinglicensemightnotwanttoownacarandiftheydoownacaritmightbejustthelatestmosttechnologicallylateandthingarenotsomethingthatjustgivesyouabitofathrillsoiireallylikedoingthatthat'swhyi

embarrassmydaughtersometimesbyturningupontheschoolrunandinmytwocvoruhyoudidn'tmentionthetwocvohyeahthelistyeahthat'si'vebeendrivingitallweekandi'vebloodyforgotaboutitthat'scoolirealizedyou'vegotaflattwoaflatfourandaflatsixbrilliantineedaflateightnowyeahyoudowhat'sthatdoesatatrahaveaflateightyeahi'dloveatatrayeahthey'reamazingwhatacar

yeahRearengineV8orflateightHemi,aircooled.

Whatathing.

Madness,madness.

Whatathing.

SoI'vegotaquestiononvideos.

Twoquestions,really.

What'syourfavouritevideothatyou'veputoutovertheyearsundertheguiseoftheLateBreakshow?

Andmaybewhat'sbeenthemostsuccessful?

Youknow,what'sthemostwatched?

That'sareally...

I'mgoingtogoonmyphonerudelybecauseIactually,Iknowthisisbad.

IsortofforgetwhatI'vedone.

PeopleusedtoaskmethisalotwiththeTV.

They'dgolike,what'sthebestthingthatyou'vefilmedonfifthgear?

AndIgo,Iactuallycan'trememberallthethingsIfilmed.

Andpeoplethenregale.

Theygo,IreallyenjoyedwhenyoudrovetheLotusEvoraaroundthat,aroundthattrack.

AndIgo,Irememberit.

Oh,yeah.

AndthenI'llwatchitandgo,yeah,yeah,Irememberexactlywhathappenedthatday.

Yeah,itwasreallygood.

SoI'mgoingtosortby...

You'vegot25videoswithoveramillionviews.

HaveI?

Isitreallythatmany?

Prettycool,isn'tit?

Howmany?

Yeah,yeah.

25.

That'salot.

Between1millionandlike3.6

or7million,somethinglikethat.

SoI'vejust...

Wow,Ididn'trealise.

IdidnotrealisethatbecauseIdon'tlookbackthatmuchbecause...

simplyintheworldofYouTube.

Wedon'thavetime.

Yeah.

Um,yeah.

Sothebestvideo,sothemostviewedvideoI'veeverdoneisthebeast,the27.

Wow.

Yeah.

Andthe,andthenalsooneaboutthe,um,afuturistic,uh,scrapyard,uh,asalvage.

Yeah.

Trent's.

Sothatvideojustaroundthecornerfromme.

Right.

SothatvideoIdidreallyoutofcuriositybecauseIwasinterestedinitbecauseIlikesalvageyards.

NeverintheworlddidIthinkthatwasgoingtobeoneofthemostsuccessfulvideosIeverputout.

It'sjustweird,right?

Yeah,itwasagreatvideo.

AndIcouldn'tbelievethatTrent's,becauseIrememberTrent'swhenIwas,IremembergoingintherewhenIwasabout17or18withafriendthatliveddownthisway.

AndIremembergoinginthereandthere'sthisgrottylittle,youknow,terrible,Scrapyardhadfivecarsontopofeachother.

Youwerewadingaroundinaworld.

Itwashorrific.

WithanAlsatianonachain.

Oh,itwaspropernasty.

Yeah.

Andthentoseethatvideo25yearsagoandit'sstillownedbythesamefamilyandhowittransformedintothis.

absolutemoderncrazinessthat'sjustaroundthecornerfromhereandIdidn'tknowitexisted.

Itwasastoundingtoseethatvideo.

That'slikethemostadvancedscrapslashsalvageyardintheUKbyamile.

It'sunbelievable,yeah.

Yeah,yeah.

Sothat,yeah,Imean,thebarnfindLamborghini,Idon'tknowifI'lleverget,I'dlovetofindararercarthanthatorasortoflikeararer,uhexoticvehicleyeahyeahyeahthatthat'sdonereallywellumit'sweirdsomeofmyfavoritevideosthati'veeverdoneumhaven'tdoneverywellinviewssosostrangeit'ssostrangetalkaboutnorhymeorreason

yeahyouknowthebeastimeanlikethequirkieststrangestthingeverandallthosepeoplewanttowatchitthesavagethehondaeyouknowthebeastandhondaeyeahit'sit'srightyou'reexactlyrightit'ssoweirdumandyeahactuallyhondaeireallylikethewaytheylookremindsmeofamarkonegolfreallylittlerangebutthey'regoodvaluei'dquitelikeonedoyouthinkishouldgetonerighthondaeespeciallyoverwinterbecausewinter'sthetime

tobuyanevsameasconvertibleyoucangetahondaewithlike3,000miles,oryoucouldlastwinter,Ithinkitwas,3,000to5,000milesontheclockfor10grand,11grand.

Really?

Yeah.

Andyougo,hangon,thatcarwas37grand.

Noway.

I'mtellingyounow,andIwillbetmyBoxsteronit,thatisabonafidefutureclassic,theHondae-Class.

Wow,they'resocool.

Andanyonewhogoes,oh,yeah,it'sashameitcanonlydo130milesononecharge.

Well,butifyou'vegottwocarsandthat'syoursortofcommutecarandyoudoapredictablecommute,likemostpeopledolessthan20milesadayor30milesaday,perfect.

Andit'sgotthenicestinterior.

Ilovethecabinofthatcar.

Yeah,yeah.

It'ssonice.

That'swhenHondajust,yeah.

WhenHondajustgoes,doyouknowwhat,we'rejustgoingtotreadourownpath,that'swhenHondaarejustbrilliant.

Buttheproblemistheyshouldhavebackeditupwithasubsequentsecondbatteryoption.

LikeFiat500e,theydidacityrangebatteryandthentheydidalongerrangebattery.

IfHondahaddonethat,theywouldhavereallywonit.

Andit'sashametheyjustdidn't.

Theyjustdidn'tdoit.

Itcouldbeanoptionforani3and...

Insteadofthei3,Max?

Well,maybeinsteadofthei3.

I'vebeenthinkingaboutgettingani3forages.

Andy'sgotani3already.

ButeverytimeIseeaHyundai,whichisn'tveryoften.

Yeah,youdon't.

Igetveryexcited.

Veryexcited.

I'vegottosay,Imean,thei3isprobablythecoolestBMWthey'vedoneinthelastdecade.

Yeah,bizarrely.

Thatcabinisstillwild.

Awesome,isn'tit?

Yeah,wild.

Suchalovely...

I'vegotthebrownleatherwiththewood,youknow,properlounge...

ProperScandinaviansexyarchitectspec.

That'sit,yeah.

That'swhatIfeellikeeverytimeIgetinit.

It'sareallycoolcar,that.

It'sareallycoolcar.

Reallycool.

Anddoyouknowwhat?

Iwasthinkingaboutbasemodelkindofappreciationearlier.

Irememberdriving,IwassayingtoJamesearlieratTHRacing,Isaid,haveyoueverdrivenabasemodelPanamera,theV6rearwheeldrivemanualonethattheybroughtout?

TheonethataboutsevenpeopleintheUKbought.

Isaid,itwasgreat.

Itwasreally,reallygreat.

Buteveryonejustwent,no,IwanttheTurboS.

Andthatwasit.

AndmyfavouriteTaycanwastherearwheeldrive,singlemotor,longrangebatterybasemodel.

Onthe18-inchwheelsorthe90s?

Itlookedlikegasburners.

Yes,yeah,yeah,yeah.

Yes,yeah.

AndPorschehadoneonthepressofficethatwasthatspec,andIdroveitto–Iwentonajob.

IdidabarnfindinCornwall,Ithink.

Ididloadsofmilesinitoverthecourseofaboutfourdays.

It'sstillmyfavouriteTaycan.

It'sgreat.

Yeah.

It'sgreat.

Anothergoodvaluecaronthemarketnow.

Amazing,amazingvaluecarandareallynice–Yeah.

Reallynicecar.

Indeed.

I'mquitetakenbythetaken.

Yeah.

Ithinkthat'sanothercarthatwouldblowupinmyface.

Youknow,I'vegotlimitedslotsonthedriveway.

Ican'thave130cars.

Ihaven'tgotahundred.

And,and,and,andoneofthemhastobeformywife.

SoIhavetopitchideastoher.

Ifthere'sacarthatIwantthatdoesn'tfitinoneofmytwoslots.

Yes.

Taycan,she'dkickmyassifIboughtoneofthose.

It'sjusttoobig.

Shereallywantsani3.

Doesshe?

Ithinkshe'dgoforaHondae.

Ithinkso.

Listen,ifyouwantto,ifIcanhelpyoufindtherightone,Imean,theyareso,sogood.

Andalsothequality,thequalityofthemisexceptional.

Thefeelofthequalityinsideisdon'tgetmewrong.

Ani3isaglorious,gloriouscar,but,um,Yeah.

Imean,imagineifwe,thenexttimewedothispodcasttogether,PorschedobringoutanewGbodyshellbody.

Bytheway,Idon'thaveanyinsideinformationonthat.

I,althoughIamreallyclosefriendswithsomeonequitehighupatPorscheinNorthAmericawhoIusedtoworkwithwhenwewereyoung,sillyman.

But,um,yeah,I,Idon'tknowwhythey'renotdoingit.

Yeah.

Ithinkit'sagoodcall.

Yeah.

Doyouknowavideo?

I'vejustthoughtofavideothatIwasreallyproudofthattookloadsofpreponthelatebreakshow,likewaymoreprepthanothers.

Andnobodywatchedwas,wasItooka,youknow,theydoacateringwiththeKcarSuzukiengine.

Iwatchedthat.

Lovedthatepisode,yeah.

WhereIsortofwenttoPortMerionanddidtheprisonerkindofreenactmentandIgotanelectricmoke,minimoke,whichhadnewlylaunched.

Thattooksomuchprepandtheweatherwasreallybeingabastardtousanditwasreallystressful.

Didn'tdorealwellatall.

Suchashame.

AndyetsometimesIdoathrowawayvideothatIfilmonmyphonerealquick.

Idon'tfilmmyselfmuch.

Idon'tIdotheoddvlog,mostlythegaragestuffwhenyou'reworkingoncars.

Yeah.

And,uh,andtheycansometimesdoreally,reallywell.

Yeah.

It'sso,it'ssoodd.

Youjustdon'tknow.

Idon'tknow.

That'swhyI'malwayskeenon,onpeople'sfeedback,likerealfeedbackwheretheygo.

Iwouldreallyenjoyseeingyou.

Idon'tknow,flytotheNetherlandsandbuyacarforathousandeurosanddriveithomeimmediately.

Yeah.

Orwhatever.

Ilikesomeofthefeedbackyouget.

Yougo,yeah,that'sactuallyareallygoodidea.

Butyou'vegottobecarefulnottogetcaughtupinlikesomeYouTubersandsomeonesthatcanactuallyaffordit,perhaps,whobuycarsonline.

Becausetheyknowtheirviewerswillwantthem.

Yes.

Like,andthenyou're,you'reinthisquitedangerouscycle.

Ithinkofyour,it'slike,youknow,you'rewearingclothestoimpressotherpeopleratherthantheclothesthatyoureallywantyourself.

Yeah.

Andwheredoyou,wheredoyoudrawtheline?

CauseIcould,youknowwhatit'slikenowwithcreditandfinance.

Icouldwakeup.

Yeah.

I'mgoingtogoandbuya,what?

Idon'tknow.

I'vegonebycareerGToncredit.

Allright.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'lljust,Igetridofallmycars.

IjustgetaCreoGT.

I'llvinylwrapitandI'lljust,I'llbounceoffthelimiter.

Youdon'tfitintothatcamp.

You'rerebuildinganAllegro.

Iknow,I'maweirdbastard.

That'sforyourownjoy,isn'tit?

Yeah,I'vealwaystroddenmyownpath,rightlyorwrongly.

I'vealwaysgone,no,I'mgoingtodoitthatway.

Rightly,rightly,Johnny.

Well,whenIworkedonMaxPower,um,Yearsagonow,Isaid,I'mgoingtobuildacarthatpeoplewillreallytakenoticeof.

Andthebasecarcostme150quid.

ItwasaJagXJ,afour-litreSovereign.

Andtheguy,Igotit,Iboughtit.

Itwasrunningonfivecylinders.

AndIdroveitbackfromCambridgefromaguywhoownedaninternetcafe.

That'showitdatesthestory.

Allright.

Yeah,Iboughtitfor150quidfromablokethatranCambridge'sbiggestinternetcafe.

And...

notthattheyexistanymore.

AndsoIgotitbackandtheyjustwent,that'sjustapedophile'scar.

ThatwasbasicallythecommentthatIhad.

AndIwent,no,no,thisisgoingtolookgood.

Andhesaid,well,IdidbuyitfromInstagram.

Iboughtitonthedarkweb.

Yeah.

AndIwenttotownonthisprojectXJanditwas,itlookedamazing.

Ithinkitlookedamazing.

Itdidreallywell.

AndwetookittoacoupleofthebigeventsthatMaxPaynedidanditgot,itgotloadsofprettygoodattention.

Anditwasthatwholethingoflikegoing,well,I'mfromthestreetmachine,uh,eraschoolwhereI,Ireallylikehotrodsandthatsortofcar,um,prostreet.

And,um,butIliketryingtobringthatintothenextgenerationofpeoplewhowillappreciateit.

Andthat'swhatItriedtodo.

Andthelowridertypeofthing.

Butyeah,there's,there's,there'ssomanydifferentinterestingcars,isn'tthere?

AndIdoreallylikehearingotherpeople's,cartastesireallylikegoingtopeople'sprivategarageswhentheygetgrantmepermissiontogoandfilmwiththeminaforadayininagaragethatcouldberightnexttotheirhouseoraprivateunitandandjusthearwhydoyouownwhatyouownwhydoyoubuywhatyoubuyyeahitmightnotbewhatiwanttobuybutthatdoesn'tmatterit'snotaboutmeit'slikeIlovehearingit.

Likepeoplegooff.

Youknow,IremembermybosshadoneofthesewhenIwasanapprenticeandI,thatwasthecarthatIreallyhadtoaimfor.

Ormy,oneofmyparentshadoneofthese,myunclehadoneoftheseorwhatever.

There's,there'salwaysathousandandonereasons.

And,um,it'sfascinating.

It'scompletelyfascinating.

Oneofthe,oneofthethingsIfindsointerestingaboutthosescenariosiswhen,when,whenyou'replayingfantasygarageinyourmind,it'sinvariablyablanksheetjob,isn'tit?

Yousetyourselfacertaincriteria,yougetyourmathstextbookoutandyou'reinyourbackthinking,right.

Soifthiswasthesituation,thesearethecarsthatI'dhave.

Andyouwritethemdown.

It'sblanksheet.

Butwheninthisscenario,intherealworld,whenyou'regoingtosomeone'sprivatecollection,whatIthinkisreallyinterestingistheacquisitionjourneyofthecars,youknow,howthey'veendedupwiththatcollectionofcars.

Causetheyhaven't,startablanksheetandgoneoutandboughtthemallinonegoandputtheminthegarageit'stheevolutionofthecollectionwhichithinkissointerestingyeahdreamjobitisreallygoodyeahidofeelveryfortunatebecausemyjobisumit'sextremelybusyandit'senergydemandingbutit'snevereverboringneverandiandilikethatbecauseiknowpeoplefriendswhoI'vegrownupwithwhohavegot

successfuljobsthatarewellpaid,butthey'rebored.

Theycravetheweekendortheyjustdon'tdosomethingthey'repassionateabout.

Andweirdly,Ialwaysgo,IwouldneverdoajobIwasn'tpassionateabout.

Whywouldyoudothat?

ButthenIrealisedthatmaybeI'mtheweirdone.

Andmostpeoplego,no,I'mjustgoingtodoajob.

It'sameanstoanend.

I'mgoingtodoajobthatearnsgoodenoughmoneysoIcandoXandY.

AndIgo,well,butyouspendsomuchofyourtimedoingajob.

Justdoit.

Somethingthatyoureallycareabout.

Yeah.

IthinkI'mnotthatmoneydriven.

Uh,Ihavetomakemoneylikeeverybody.

Youhavetoearnalivingandallthatstuff.

Butit'snotthebeallandendall.

No.

Remember,Johnny,youwerethe19-year-oldwiththeslamGranada.

Oh,mygosh.

That'sadifferentlevel.

Youwereonadifferentlevelrightfromthestart.

Iwas.

Itwasaverylowlevel.

Itwasextremelylow,thatGranada.

Itwasextremelylow.

Doyouknow,onedaytherewasamassiveflood,massiveflood,andloadsofpeoplecouldn'tgettowork.

AndIrealizedmyGranadacouldgoashighasaToyotaHiluxonfulllift.

AndIdrovethroughaflood.

Iwishthere'dbeenalocalpapertheretoindicate.

interviewmeorsomething.

Idrovethroughamassivefloodinmylowriderandgotittowork.

That'sapracticalcar.

yeahpracticallowriderstherewegothatthatwouldhaveemapwouldhavepublishedthatatsomepointbackinthedaythatcouldhavebeenathingpracticalit'sreallygoodyeahyeahi'vegotonemorequestionwecan'tkeepwellwecouldkeeptalkingallnightwecouldallgetthewineoutbutweprobablyshouldn'twhatisyourfavoriteandthisisadrivingstorynotapartystorywhatisyourwhatisyourwhatisyourfavoriteJasonPlatostorybloody

Platohe'sanabsoluteaswellyeahhishisidlechatwashilariousandthentheidlechatwithMattandthenallthatIlovedallofthatthatwasjustI'msopleasedthatpannedoutbecauseeverytimewespeakonthephonenow,healwaysthanksmefordoingthatidlechatwithMattbecauseitmadehimandMattfriends.

They'reactuallyreallyclosefriendsnowandtheybothretiredfromracing.

SoIthinkthere'snotthatkindof,um,peckinganymore.

There'snotthatfacetoface,um,anger,but,um,SothebestPlatostory,there'sbeenloads.

Imean,therewasthattime.

Idon't,Ihavetoldit.

Idon'tknowwhere.

SoPlato'sobviouslyaverymischievousman.

Wewere,itwasa,itwasahotsunnydayandwewerefilmingfifthgearatMillbrook.

WeusedtodoalotoffilmingatMillbrook.

Millbrookisverystrict.

Theprovinggroundisverystrictrules.

Ifyoudeviatefromtherules,you'restraighttothatmaster.

It'sveryzerotolerance.

AndPlatodoesn'tlike,rulesandi'mnotamassivefanofrulessoanywaytocutalongstoryshortwewe'vebeendrivingweweretestingawe'redoingagrouptestinvolvinganastoniremembertherewasanastonorsomethingthatwepulledoverwebothneededaweewebothdecidedratherthanwalkingtothetoiletswewoulddoininplato'swordsnotminelet'sdoabigboyweeandiwentiLikewhat?

Andhewent,whatisthat?

Trousersandpantstothefloor.

Andthenyoujust,youjustwait,notlookingatoneanother.

We'renotthatweird,butwestoodnexttooneanotherlookingoutacrosswhatisaVistaofMillbrookwhilsthavingabigboywee.

Okay.

Therewerenocarsvisibleatthistimeandtherewasnobodyaround.

However,aswestartedourbigboywheezegiggling,overthecrestoftheAlpinecircuit,Ithinkitwas,inMillbrook,wasaboutfiveAstonMartins.

TheywerehavingaVIPcustomerdriveday.

Andtheyweregreetedcomingdownthishill,hotonthebrakesofthesenewAstonsthattheywerehopefullygoingtobuy.

We'rejusttwogrownmenhavingbigboywheeze.

And...

Well,talkytalkycracklednotthatlongafterweweresenttotheclerkofthecourseorwhateverhisnamewasatMillbrook.

WewerethatclosetogettingFifthGearbannedindefinitelyfromMillbrookbecausewe'dexposedourselvesandnotusedthetoiletfacilitiesprovided.

Yeah.

Oh,mygoodness.

AndPlatobeingPlato,hewaslike,thisisjustfuckingridiculous.

Sillyrules.

Wewerejusthavingabitoffun.

Therewasnoonearoundwhenwestarted,Wig.

It'slike,no,you'reright.

Therewasnoonearoundwhenwestarted.

Sothat'sprobablyit.

There'smanyother...

Platostories.

Yeah,Ithinkwecouldprobablydoanotherepisode,couldn'twe?

WecoulddoawholeepisodeofPlatostories.

Ialwaysusedtoreallylikeitwhenyoudidtheteamtestwherethere'dbeallofyouwithacarandthenyou'dallpileinandinvariablyPlatowouldbedrivingandyou'rehangingontothepassengerthingyanditallgetsabitintense.

BecausethethingishewouldturnupforworkontheshootonFifthGearshootdaysandyouneverknewwhatmoodhewasgoingtobein.

Andsometimeshewasgoingtobeinlikeareallymischievousmood.

He'dhaveaglintinhiseyeandyouknewyouwereinfortroublethatdaybecauseitcouldbeareallynaughtyswine.

Orotherdayshemightbeinafoulmood.

Orotherdayshemightbesmokingnonstopandhewouldn'tputhiscigaretteouteventolikefilmatake.

Yeah.

Sohe'dsometimeshaveitbehindhisback.

Andthenthedirectorwouldbelike,Jason,listen,yourbackissmokingandit'svisibleoncamera.

Soyoujustcan'tdothis.

Likepeoplearegoingtogo,whyisPlato'sbacksmoking?

Whyisheonlygesticulatingwithonehand?

Soyoujustgo,no,no,no,it'sfine.

It'sfine.

Theviewerswon'tknow.

Onlygo,no,Jason,they'lldefinitelyknow.

We'relookingthroughthecamera.

Wecanseeit.

Itdoesn'twork.

Butthere'sallsortsoffunnythings.

Thattimeinthebloody...

Passat.

No,no,Phaeton,VWPhaetononthebowl,thehigh-speedbowlatMillbrook.

AndthiswaswhenIhadabitofasenseofhumanfailure.

Hewasdriving,setthecruisecontrolat140,145,Ithinkitwas,andthenjustgotoutofthedriver'sseatandcrawledintothebackseatbetweentheseatsandjuststartedgigglingatmeuncontrollably.

AndI'mlike,getbackinthedriver'sseatnow.

Wearedoingnearly150milesanhour.

Oh,myGod.

Ifthisthingexitsstageright,we'realldead.

Andhejustthoughtitwasthefunniestthingbecauseheknewwhathewasdoing.

Heknewthecar,unlesswehitaseagullorthe,Idon'tknow,wehadatireblowout.

Itwouldjustholditattherightangle.

Iwasterrified.

Absolutelyterrified.

Ifeelreally,IfeelextremelyprivilegedtohaveworkedwithhimandTiffandVickybecausethey'reall,yeah,theywereallareallyaccomplishedpresentersanddrivers.

AndIwas,Iwastheweakestlinkwhenitcametodrivingexpertise.

AndIlearnedanawfullotfromspendinghoursondesertedairfieldswiththosethree,becauseI'dwatchthem,youknow,I'dwatchVickyandTiffonoldschooltopgear.

And,andI,andIlearnedalotandI,andI,andIdon'tdriveontrackverymuchanymore.

AndIdomisswhereyoubasically,you'vegotanhourandahalfanhourtokillandyoujustgo,Ijustgooutinacarandjustdo,doafewlapsandlearnafewcornersandgooutwithTiff,whohasabsolutelynofear,bytheway.

I'mgoingtoconfirmthis.

OutofallthepeoplethatI'veevermetinthecarworldandpresentersandhandydrivers,Tiffabsolutelydoesn'tseedanger.

Anddoyouthinkthat'sstillthesamenowasitwasbackthen?

He'sstillnothing.

Platowouldalwaystakemetoonesideandhe'dgo,don'tdoit.

IfTiffthinksit'sallright,Idon't.

Don'tdoit.

AndPlatowouldseethedanger,eventhoughPlatoisariskyoldschoolracingdriverwherehe'spreparedtotakecertainrisks.

Hewouldseeariskandgo,I'mnotdoingthat.

AndTiffwouldbelike,ah,that'sfine.

It'sfine.

Don'tneedahelmetforthat.

It'sabsolutelyfine.

Andhewouldhavesuch,hehassuchbeliefinthemachineandhisability.

It'sreallyimpressive.

Yeah.

Thenumberoftimeshe'scasuallylostcontrol.

Imean,it'snotbeenveryoftenthathehas,butIrememberatRockiumonce,wewereinaSciroccoR.

Yeah,wewereinaSciroccoR.

Andwecameintoacorner.

Soonliftoffoversteer,itwaswellover100.

Anditdidn'tquitedowhathewasexpectingittodo.

IthinkIprobablydiditforthethirdtime.

Andhewent,oh,oh,okay.

Ithinkwe'regoingtorollthistime.

Anditwasareal,it'slikeapilotcominginandgoing,okay,sowe'velostboththeengines.

Wealmostcertainlyhavetobrace.

Youjustdon'twanttohear.

SoI'malreadylikespasmingonthe,onthegrabhandle,theoceangoing.

Weare,ifhesayswe'regoingover,weareprobablygoingover.

Wearenowonthegrassside,likeat90milesanhour.

Uh,butwedidn't.

And,andamazinglyhecaughtitanditcamebackonoffthegrassanddidn't,damagedthecarandhejustwentwelliwasn'texpectingthatanduhjustgowellyou'redrivingthedamncaridon'tknowwhatiwasjustexpectedtosayprayersandexittheworldbutyeahcrackingsoi'velovedtheumi'velovedthetiffnadelleumandtheandthejasonplatocanyoudoavickybutbutbutlerhendersonimpressionohareyouanygoodatthatOh,

I'mnot,I'mnotverygoodat,um,seeVicky'sVicky'sgreatbecauseshe'sexactlyasyou,asyouseeontheTV.

Yeah.

Thesamekindofpersonality,thesamevoice,thesamedelivery,you'vegotthebestvoice,bestvoice,voiceintheworld.

Um,and,andflirty,reallyflirty.

Um,butwhatIrememberfromVickywaswhenshewouldslideacar,herhair,Ithinkshestraightenedherhairorshe,Ithinkshe'sjuststraightenedher.

Herhairwouldswing.

Soherheadwouldstaythesame,butthehairwouldsortofdothis.

Itwouldgooutofshotandthencomebackinagainandthengooutofshotagain.

Soyou'dknowwherethecarwasgoingifIwaswatchingitontheTVandifIwasn'tinthecar.

AndIusedtothinkitwasgreat.

Andshe'dalwayshavethatsqueal.

She'dalwaysdothatreallyhigh-pitchedsquealwhenshewasskiddingacarandslitheringit.

She'dgo...

Likeanaughtylittlekidthat's,Idon'tknow,just...

Likestucksomechewinggumunderthetableorsomething.

No,shewas,she's,she's,she'sreally,Ihaven'tseenVickyforquiteawhile,actually.

She's,shemightstillhaveaGT3.

Idon'tknow.

Shehasa997GT3.

Oh,myhusband,Phil.

Yeah.

Ishouldask.

Iknow.

Iwaswellgel.

Yeah.

God.

IthinkmyfavoritebitofVBHcontenteverwaswhen,asin,inItaly,Ithinkitwasfourorfive,eight,maybefourorfive,eight,umspiderlaunchandshe'sonthoseyouknowthoseroadsthatyouallusewhenyou'reinitalydrivingferrarisanduhandshewaslovingitandthecarsarefantasticandshesaidbutgodthiscar'ssogoodiactuallyfeelifeelquiteemotionalandshesortoflikebackedoffandsloweddownandjustsortofwentsortofpo-facedandyouknowasifshewasgoingtocryandthenjustwentahandthenjustlikejustwentforitagainandit'sjustabeautifulbit

ofbitoftvandit'sjustit'sfantasticyeahuhyeahshe'sawesomesheisgoodandshe'ssheshe'sproperlypassionate.

AndI,Istilldon'tthinkthere'senoughwomeninthecarworld.

Yeah.

Not,not,notatthe,thesortofcaliberofVicky.

Yeah.

Andshe,Ithinkpeopleforget,youknow,shewasdoingitintheninetieswhenitwasprobablyquiteadifficultplaceto,toaccess,youknow,itwasprobablyquitea,um,yeahanindustrywhichwasveryverystillismaleskewedandveryhardforawomantokindofwithanycredibilitytogetinthereandshowwhatshehadandvickywasgreathasalwaysbeengreatlikethati'dliketoseeherdomorei'dliketoseeicandomoreactuallyithinkgether

onthechannelyeahishouldgetherontheshowyou'reabsolutelyrightishouldIshould,becauseoutofthethreeofthemthatIusedtoworkwith,she'stheoneIseetheleast,eventhoughIactuallylivetheclosesttohergeographically.

So,yeah,Ishould.

Infact,IhadaninterestingphonecallfromPlatotheotherweek.

Hemayormaynothavebeendrinkingginthatafternoon.

He'sgotthisgreatidea.

WeneedtoturnuponTIFF'sdoorstep.

anddemandthatwehaveasleepover.

Althoughadultsdon'tsaysleepover,dothey?

Theydon't.

Itsoundslikewe'reall...

Butit'sintherightspirit,isn'tit?

Ilikeit.

Hesaid,we'regoingtoturnup,we'llholdupareallyniceglassofredandacurryandgo,right,we'rehereforthenight.

Letusin.

AndIthinkthat'samarvellousidea,soweshoulddothat.

Doyouknowwhat?

Probablyoneofthemostfun,someofthemostfuntimesI'veexperiencedinaPorschehavebeenwithPlatopotato.

Yeah.

Causehe,he,Irememberhe,whenhefirstgotaturbo,he'shadafewnine11turbo.

Yeah.

Thenhehadabrandnewturboass.

Itwouldhavebeenaninenineseven.

Heturnedupinitwithhisnumberplate,hispersonalnumberplateonit.

Andhesaid,hesaid,I'minarushtoday.

I'vegot,hewastryingtosealadealwitharacesponsorandhewastryingtogetitofftheground.

Hewas,youcouldtellhewasquite,stressedwhenhe,when,when,whensponsorsneededtobesealedandyouhadtogetadriveatthatmoment.

Andhehadtolease.

AndI'vegottohave,I'vegotahardstopatthreetoday,guys,orfourtodayorwhateveritwas.

AndwewereatBruntingthorpeandhefinishedthefilm.

Hewaslikeconstantlyclockcheckingandright.

So,right.

We'lldothisonemoretime.

NowI'vegottogo.

Yeah.

Okay.

Allright.

Andhegotinthis,this997andheabsolutely,launchedthispoorcar.

Thiscarwascold.

Andhetookoffandwentround,roundBruntingthorpe,likebasicallydidavictorylaptogoout.

Hedidn'thavetogoallthewayaround,butwentoutandhadthethinglit.

AndIhavebeenina,Ithinkitwasa911ofsomederivative,Idon'trememberwhat,whenweweredoingwhattheycall,youknow,trackingshots.

Thecameracarwasoutonthetrack.

Wewerecomingin,cominginhotandthenbackingoff.

Andthenyoudothesamethingagain.

Andthenyou'dhaveawalkietalkieonyourlapfromthedirector.

Iwasapassenger,Platowasdriver.

Wewereina911ofsomesort.

Hewascominginhot,doingsomedriftspastthecamerawhilsthehadthephoneonloudspeakertalkingtosomesortofpotentialsponsororsomethingtodowithtouringcarswhilstalsoeating.

Ithinkitwasapastyorasausageroll.

Sowewereonprivateproperty,folks,justtomakethatabsolutelyclear.

Wewereskiddinga911reallyclosetoacameracarwithaphoneonspeakertalkingtosomeimportantpersonwhoIdidn'tknowwhoitwas.

IwasjuststayingquietwhilsttryingtomunchonabitofaGregsausagerollorsomethinglikethat.

That'sskills.

That'samanwithalotofsparecapacityfordoingstuff,isn'tit?

Andthat'sthedifferencebetweenpeoplelikehimandTiffandVickyandme.

theycouldgetinacarneverdrivenitbeforeandputitonthelimitameterandahalfawayfromacameraatbigspeedsanddoitnotoncebutfiveorsixtimesandthengoallrightarewedonetherelet'smoveontothenexttakewhereasyouandiprobablywouldverymuchstruggletodothatoritwouldendinexpensivebillsandiwatchedthemdoitirememberwhenremembertheLamborghiniwouldhavebeenthe,was

ittheGallardo?

TheAventador,whentheAventadorwaslaunchedandTiffjustturnedupandwent,right,where,whereisit?

Andhejustwent,theythrewhimthekeys.

Hewent,um,offwego.

Where'dyouwantme?

Andhejust,theywent,right,we'reoncornertwoofRockingham.

We'regoingtoputthecamerahere.

Tiff,Ineedyoutobe,withinametreofthecamera.

Hewent,whatspeed?

Andtheywent,Idon'tknow,makeitfairlyrapid.

Hewent,okay,between140and150.

Andhejustwentout,neverdrivenit,neverdrivenanAventadorever,andjustputthisthingfullsend,halfametrefromthecamera.

AndIwatchedhimdoitfivetimesandjustwent,Iaminthepresenceofgreatness.

Andthenwe'dcomestraightbackinandwindthewindowdownandhe'dgo,Johnny,where'stheRedBull?

Hewasjust,Tiffisananimal.

He'sareallyimpressiveanimalthatrunsonHaribo,doubleespressoandham,eggandchips.

Howoldishenow?

Heis,Ithinkhe's75.

Hemightbe75.

Wow.

IjustsawhimattheGoodwoodmembersmeetingandhecameoverandputhisarmaroundmeandhesaid,whathaveyoubeensayingonyourpodcastaboutmyleatherjacket?

AndIsaid,Oh,well,youknow,hegoes,whateveryou'resaying,it'sannoying.

Peoplearecominguptomeandsayingittome.

Imean,Icouldn'tbelievewhatIwaswatchingbackinthedaywhenhimandPlatostarteddoingthose,thoseraces,thejewels.

Irememberlikeoneofthe,itwas987Boxstertime.

Soit's987BoxsterandZ4.

Iforgetwhichcircuitthey'reat.

AndIjustcouldn'tbelievewhatIwas.

Ithinkeventuallysomebodyranoutofbrakes,buttheydidn'ttakeeachotherout,ofcourse,becausetheyhaditandtheywerelaughinglikedrains,assessingthecarsandbasicallyracingthemlikethey'retouringcars.

Theystartedwiththosetwoandthentheyweredoingitlike997andR8.

Ithinkthatwasabruntingthought,thatone.

It'sjust...

wildbrilliantbrillianttvit'slovelytowatchbecausetheyarenaturallycompetitivebecauseofthembeingproracedriversbutthere'samutualrespectaswellandbecausethecarcontrolissohightheywouldreallyimplicitlytrustoneanotheritwaslikewatchingdancepartnersyouknowprofessionaldancepartnerswheretheywouldsynchronizesobeautifullybuttheywouldtheywouldknowwhatwhattheyweregoingtodo.

Andtheywould,ifoneofthemhadlostitabitorgonewide,ortherewasaproblem,theotheronewouldknow.

AndIusedtosometimeshearitonthewalkietalkieswhentheywereinthecars.

Andsometimestheywouldcomeinandgo,thatwas,thatwasclose,buttheywouldlovethat.

Theygo,thatwasclose.

Itwasgood.

Close.

Ithinkyou'reright.

TherewassomemomentsofthosedogfightswhenIwaslike,Ooh,seriously,thatwasverynearlyaninsuranceclaim.

ItwasoneinthewetwithanAMG,IthinkitwasanAMGGTorSLSversusanAstonofsomederivative.

Andtheywereprettymuchtwindrifting,tandemdrifting.

Anditwassodamnclosewiththewipersonfull.

AndIdon'tknowhowtheydidn'tcrash.

Idon'tknowhowneitherofthemcrashed,butthey'reso,sotalentedbehindthewheel.

AndI,yeah,it'sareal,itwasarealjoytogooutandjustsitinthepassengerseatandwatch.

IusedtowatchthepedalboxwithTiff.

IusedtoalwayswatchthepedalboxbecauseI'mlike,well,howareyoudoingthat?

Howareyouevendoingthat?

Andhewoulddoitwhilstconductingareallymundanechatwithme,likeareal,youknow,justgettoworkandyougo,sohaveyouhadabusyweek?

Andyouhadanyinterestingphonecalls?

Andwe'dbelookingoutthesidewindow.

Yeah,thethingwouldbeslight.

We'dbelikedoingonedriftintothenext.

Thenextdrift,andI'djustbegoing,look,let'sjustfocusonwhatwe'redoing.

Andhe'dbegoing,no,no,how'sthekids?

Iseverythingallright?

I'mlike,yeah,yeah,good.

AndIgotusedtoitintheendbecauseitbecamenormal.

Butforalongtime,itwaslike,wow,youhavesuchtrustinthemachineandyourowntalent.

LikeIsaid,it'sthatincrediblecarcontrolthatweallwishwehad,actually.

Weallwishwehadit.

I'veseenTiffthrowingcars.

Basically,ifyousaytoTiff,thatcarisabasemodelwithanopendiff.

It'sgotnopoweratall.

Ibetthere'snowayyoucouldmakethatdriftorgetittooverhisG.

He'dgo,right,let'sgo.

Hewouldjusttryit.

Hewouldtryandthrowanythingout,anything.

FordS-Maxes,I'veseenthemfully...

Imean,just,younameit.

Amazingexperiences.

Absolutely.

Fantastic.

IfeelveryprivilegedbecauseIscarily,IrealizedIwastalking,Ithinktomy,oneofmykidsandIthought,shitnextyearis2026.

That'llbe20yearssinceIstartedworkingonTVasapresenter.

That's,that'sterrifying.

Reallyterrifying.

Ilovetolookatallthecarsthatwerelaunchedin2006becausethere'llbeclassicsnow.

yeahyeahyeahyeahsomethingtobuysomethingtobuysomethingtobuyyesyeah20yearson997GT3thereitisstopitstopittherewego997GT3perfectAndyperfectonthatbombshellonthatbombshellwellI'vereallyenjoyedthisconversationthankschapthankyouit'sbeenalmostlikeasupertimeisn'titit'sbeenalotoffunit'sreallygoodfunIt's

reallygoodfun.

AndIknowit'sbeenarealprivilegetobeon.

Sothankyou.

Yeah.

Thankyouforyourtime.

Sleepwell.

Yeah.

Andyou.

Youtoo.

Cheers.

Byenow.

Seeyousoon.

Bye.

Okay.

Well,thatwasgood,wasn'tit?

Whatagreatconversation.

Absolutelyfantastic.

Itwaslong.

Itwaslongandintothenight.

Mr.

JohnnySmithwouldnotstoptalking,wouldhe?

Whataman.

Whatasuperfella.

Iabsolutelylovedthat,Andy,thatchat.

Really,reallygoodfun.

He's,becauseobviouslywe'vemethimandhadagoodchatatRensportreunion.

AndheisjusttheguyyouseeontheTV,onYouTube,isn'the?

Andinthepodcast.

Relaxed.

Sofocusedoncars.

Justagoodroundallguy.

Goodallroundguy.

Yeah.

Lovely,lovelyman.

Thankyouagain,Johnny,forjoiningusonthepodcast.

Wereallyappreciateit.

Andwereallyenjoyedit.

Yeah.

Itwasabsolutelyworththewait.

Yeah.

And,um,youknow,thinking,andIpromisethisisn'tlikefixedoranything,uh,butthinkingaboutthemarketplacegemoftheweek,Iactuallyhadtwocarslinedup.

forthemarketplacegemoftheweek.

Oneisobviouslyadroptopand,andnotaBoxster.

I'veneverbeenlikethat,butMaxisgoingtochooseaBoxster.

Ofcourseheis.

Itwasn't,itwasn'tapromise.

Topicalbecauseofthesunout.

Yeah.

Topicalbecauseofthesunout.

Soitwasgoingtobeadroptop.

ButtheotheronethatIhadinmindwasmy,dreamcarwhichhascomeuponthemarketplacebutitturnsoutit'salsojohnny'sdreamcaraswellsoi'mgoingtoditchhopefullytheweatherwillstillbenicenextweekandicanbringouttheuhdroptopthatihadinmindifithasn'tsoldbutumuhmydreamcarandjohnny'sdreamcaristheuhgen1997gt3whichisatharbourcarswhichissuchabeautifulcarsuchabeautifulidon'tknowifi'veseenthatwhat'sthespecwhat'sthecolorso

niceit'sgtsilverNice.

Whichisalovelycolouronthose.

It'sgotsteelbrakes,whichIthinkisgood.

It'sgotcomfortseats.

WhichwasoneofJohnny'srequests.

Yeah,sowecanputbackseatsin,andthatworksformeaswell.

Alsomeansit'smorelikelyto,andthisonedoeshavetheextendedleatherdash,whichisreallyniceina997.

It'sareally,reallybeautifulcar.

Letmejustchecktheoldmileage.

Itmustbea6ora7.

Oh,it'sa57plate2007.

It'sdonejustunder28,000miles.

Sovery,verylittlework,Ithink.

Anditispricedatawhiskerunder£90,000.

SothatisabeautifulcarthatIwouldhaveinaheartbeat.

I'msuresomeone'sshouting,whydon'tyousellyourMacan,youidiot,andbuyit?

That'snotquitehowtheworldworks,isit?

Butman,Iwouldlovethatcar.

I'dlovethatcar.

Suitsyou,suitsyou.

SuitsJohnnytoo,yeah.

ButmaybeJohnnyandIcangohalvesonit.

Whoa,yes.

That'saThorZplan.

Zplan.

Thereyougo.

I'mgoingtosendhimamessage.

Doit.

Excellent.

ShallwegetalittletechtipfromMr.

Wright?

Mr.

ChrisWrightatWrightTune?

Yeah.

Seewhathe'sgotuphissleevethisweektokeepusonthestraightandnarrow.

Hello,Nineworks.

Now,996andforwards.

Youwanttobelookingatbrakes.

I'mtalkingaboutbrakestoday.

Thediscs,forsomereason,theydogetquitecorrodedontheinnerfacesmoresothantheoutside,particularlyifyouleavethecaroutside.

Thecar,whenit'sonitswheels,canlooknottoobad.

Butyouneedtogetituporgetunderneathitandhavealookattheinsidefacesandmakesurethere'snocorrosionthere,youknow,impedingyourbrakes,soyourbrakingefficiency.

So,yeah,justhavealookatthattodayforme,guys.

Cheers.

Thankyou,Mr...

Mr.

Right.

IwanttocallhimMr.

Tune.

Ithinkthere'snothingwrongwiththat.

ChrisTune.

Thankyou,man.

Excellent.

Lastthingontheagenda,Ithink,then,wouldbeacollectiveupdate.

Ifyou'reupforthat,Max.

Okay.

Firstone.

Right.

I'vegotadifficultnameformehere.

It'sUD...

Soit'sJiptandi,Tandai,Ihopeoneofthoseisright.

Greattohaveyoualong,basedinOxford,referredbyamember,Idon'tknowwhichmember,sowhoeverdidreferforyou,that'sgreat,thankyouverymuch,drivesa991.2

C2.

Verynice,nicecarthat.

Welcome,Udi.

Andifwehavemadeabitofapig'searofyoursurname,dosendusavoicenoteandwecangetaholdonit.

Butwelcomeaboard.

Indeed.

I'vegota...

Who'snext?

We'vegotMentin,whoisafriendwithGuy.

Ah.

AndacoupleofothermutualconnectionsintheDrivenNotHiddencollective.

He...

Ithinkhe'son...

Thankyouverymuch.

996.2

clubsportmantieRSequippedmissilehecallsitwhichheusesfortrackdayandbadbehaviourandthenalsoracesinthehorsetrophyandtheCSCCinhisBoxster986racecartherewegoIfoundhimyesyesIrecogniseIrecogniseyeahyeahI'mfollowinghimfollowinghimYeah,lovely,lovelycast.

BasedinHertfordshire.

Super,welcomeaboard.

Excellenttohaveyouaboard.

Yeah.

Okay,DanBrown,whois...

Whereareyou,Dan?

Idon'tknowexactlywhereDanis,actually.

Yeah,somewhereintheUK.

I'mthinkingthathe'sprobably...

downthiswaysomewherebecausehehasrecentlyboughtacarfromparagonwhichhesaysissuchafabplacehe'snowdrivinga997.2

uhc4syeahwhiteoneifoundhimonthegroundexcellentfoundhimonthegroundthat'sagoodlookingcarasitwouldbefromparagonofcourseyeahsoithinkwasthatthatmayhavebeentheonethatidrovewasitIthinkyoudrovearedone,wasn'tit?

TheC4Syoudrovewasaredone,andIthinkmaybetheGTSwasawhiteone,astheyoftenare.

Yeah.

Butyeah,that'sagood-lookingcar.

997Gen2C4S,widebody,good-lookingcar.

Lovely.

Welcomeaboard,Dan.

Goodtohaveyouonboard.

Excellent.

Right.

Ithinkthat'susdonefortoday.

Ithinkitis.

Ithinkweneedtogoforasleep.

Yeah.

Endofalongpod,thatone,butwhatagreatpod.

Reallyenjoyedit.

Onceagain,thankyoutoJohnny.

ShouldwespreadtheloveactuallyforJohnny?

Yeah,yeah,yeah.

Imean,ifthere'sanybodywhodoesn'tknowwhathe's,youcangetholdofJohnny.

I'msureeveryonedoes.

It'stheLateBreakShowonYouTube.

AndSmithandSniffonthepodcasts.

Checkitout.

Checkthemout.

Butdon'tlistentoomuchbecausethey'llgetupthechartsevenmorethantheyalreadydid.

Yeah,yeah,yeah.

Nottoomuch.

They'realreadyknockingitoutofthepark.

Theydon'tneedanyhelp.

Infact,don'tlisten.

Don'tbother.

Forgetaboutit.

9MXRadio.

Stickwithit.

That'stheone.

Stickwithus.

Allright.

Catchyounextweek.

Seeyou.

Cheers.

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