{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Kevin Magee | Part 1 - Horsham hijinks & rounding ‘em up on the outside!","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/kevin-magee-part-1-horsham-hijinks-rounding-em-up-on-the-outside","audioUrl":"https://enrichment.soundstack.com/4vjqq8/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/820f09cf-2ace-4180-a92d-aa4c0008f5fb/dd2804cb-1f45-4c79-83e9-aa4c003f9f4b/53ebf2f7-e7e5-4d51-8461-b4160174fa6d/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=4dbd5294-795c-4844-a0b0-aa4c003f9f4b","description":"We’re joined by former Fox Motorsport bike racing expert Kevin Magee for this fascinating two-parter.Growing up in country Victoria and showing fearless talent on a bike to learning what made machines really fire and how to get the best out of them. Early racing opportunities and juggling his passion with work including the story of finishing one job at lunch and starting another that afternoon!You’ll be blown away by the detail of his memory around some aspects of his racing career and the bikes he competed on. Getting his circuit racing break and just how good he was straight away.Little wonder ‘Magoo’ became known as the ‘Horsham Hurricane’ as climbed the ladder taking aim at the Swan Series, the 6-hour and ultimately racing on the world stage.  Head to Rusty's Facebook, Twitter or Instagram and give us your feedback and let us know who you want to hear from on Rusty's GarageSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information."},"annotations":[{"startTime":75.1,"endTime":77.9,"type":"part","title":"turbo","url":"/glossary/turbo","quote":"I seem to recall walking into a kitchen at his place once, and he was rebuilding a turbo from a Subaru.","canonicalId":"part:turbo","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"A turbocharger (“turbo”) uses exhaust gases to spin a turbine that forces more air into the engine. 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