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Colleague Betty Glover.

How are you?

Everything. When I was in China, bearing in mind, we were working in China Thursday,

Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Every single day I lost something.

Have you lost anything significant? Is everything okay?

Well, Thursday I lost my jacket. It just went. I don't know where it went.

And then eventually I found it later in the hotel lobby on the floor.

What's after Thursday? Friday.

I.

And guys, if you're wondering why I did the intro, what's after Thursday?

Friday I left my sunglasses in the hotel bar. Didn't even realise until Saturday.

You left your sunglasses in my hotel room in Australia as well and your drinks bottle.

I did, yeah. But then this waiter came over to me on Saturday and was like,

here are your sunglasses and I was like, oh, didn't even know I'd lost it.

And then I, on Saturday, I had my bag and it was open and I knocked over a whole cup

of coffee into my handbag, went all over everything. And then on Sunday I lost my

hair straighteners. Don't know where they went. How can you lose your hair straighteners?

Oh, I guess you bring them into the track, right?

Yeah.

So for those that don't know, if you've been living under a rock,

Betty is now presenting on F1 TV. So you're not new to travelling for work,

you do it all the time, but this is your first sort of, I think, intense bit of the F1 circus.

And Betty, it is a privilege, but it takes it out of you. I know from experience,

it's a lot. I mean, back in the last year when I did a few quick succession at the end of the year,

I was the walking dead. So I do sympathise.

Yeah, and it's so funny because you see like loads of people that work in formula one

at the airport in China ready to go home and everyone just looks dead.

They're not on their knees, aren't they? But yeah, I am alive. I'm kicking.

I've had two coffees this morning. I'm ready to go. Ready to talk about Kimmy Antonelli.

We'll talk about it a minute. Just while we're on this, because yes, it is time,

but as you say, it's amazing. What's it been like? Your first two experiences of being,

I would say being in the paddock proper because you've been in Silverstone with this podcast.

It's not quite the same of being, you've been right at the very heart of F1.

You've been in the pit lane. You've been in the garages. It's been amazing for us to see as

fans of you and fans of the pod. What's it been like being so immersed in it all?

Oh, I'm not going to lie. I think it's the best thing I've ever done,

like genuinely. I've done champion. Oh, God, just nearly knocked my head.

She's just knocked her mic off everyone. Carry on then.

I've done champions league, women's champions league, football. I've presented the men's euros.

I've done the Olympics and by far doing Melbourne and then China after,

it was the best thing I've ever done in my career. It was so cool, genuinely.

And being on the grid is so insane and that moment when you're stood there,

there's everyone around you. It's packed. You've got all the drivers in the cars ready to go

and you're like throwing to comms to be like, you know, the Shanghai Grand Prix,

about to get going. The adrenaline that's going through you is insane.

It's just so cool. Yeah, it was interesting.

And the difference between China and Melbourne was really interesting as well.

In terms of the paddock, I just found it all really fascinating.

We will continue to get that insight throughout this episode of the podcast.

And coming up, we'll talk the fighting Ferraris.

We'll talk Misri at McLaren. We'll talk Sad Max or Mad Max,

whatever you want to call him. But there is only one place to start, Betty.

And you are on the ground to witness Formula One's newest winner at age six and three quarters.

Kimmy Antonelli is Formula One's newest race winner.

Betty, I imagine this was one of those and you do see this where everyone in the paddock is

very happy because you don't hear anyone say a bad word about him.

He's been on this pod. We both spoke to him. He's a lovely lad.

I'm guessing everybody loved it.

Yeah, and we needed it, didn't we? We needed it.

I love George Russell. I think he's brilliant.

But if he had won Melbourne, the sprint in China,

and then the Chinese Grand Prix, I think everyone would have been a bit like...

But we needed Kimmy to step up and he did.

And he did really well. I mean, obviously we'll get into it,

but there's sort of a bit of luck on his side in terms of

the issues George Russell had in qualifying.

But it's fantastic.

Because the Chinese Grand Prix paddock is so big,

basically it's not really busy.

You know, in Melbourne it's so busy, there's like people everywhere.

Yes, Karun said this on the podcast before, hasn't he? Karun Chanda.

Yeah, I've never been, so I don't know this.

It's massive. So it feels like there's just people sort of spread out.

It doesn't feel that busy.

But it means that when some driver walks through the paddock,

everyone swarms on them like bees on honey type vibes.

And when Kimmy was walking through the paddock, it was wild.

Like everyone was just like, oh my god, there he is.

But it was just great, wasn't it?

To see him crying and show that emotion,

it's just so lovely to see.

And it clearly means so much to him.

Yeah, it was brilliant. What did you make of it?

I just don't cry.

This sounds very dark. I do like it when they cry.

Only because, like, you sometimes feel that that's a weakness for blokes.

I'm a crier. I'm a big crier.

I bloody love a cry. Get it out. You know what I mean?

And I think, you know, it's nice to let modern Ben know you can let your emotions go.

And it's lovely. So it was just lovely.

It was a good feel, good story.

I couldn't help but be delighted for him, as you said, personally.

Because he's the nicest kid.

And everybody you speak to as well says lovely things about him,

that he's grounded, that he's lovely, that he's funny, that he's warm.

Everybody says nice things about Kimi Antonelli.

And also, I think, Betty, you alluded to the qualifying thing.

Of course, had George not had that gremlin in the engine or whatever it was in qualifying,

George probably would have been on pole.

George didn't get to do his last run.

But I don't think, last season, Kimi Antonelli is able to do that.

I don't think he's able to.

Maybe he, it wouldn't have been a Mercedes on pole.

Maybe in the race, George would have got back up.

How many times in Formula One have we seen that number two driver

not be able to step up when needed?

Of course, we've seen that in Red Bull.

But maybe towards the end of the bot-ass days at Mercedes as well.

That number two isn't quite there when the number one isn't there for whatever reason.

But Kimi was.

And I think it's a sign.

We talk so much about the driver's need to level up,

these new drivers year upon year.

We've seen it so much with Oscar Piastri,

that he went from season two being able to win the odd race

to season three being a title contender.

And we were saying, look, yes, he didn't win the title,

but it was still a massive step up.

I think we've seen that with Kimi.

His pace is stronger.

Definitely he's stepped it up pace-wise.

And yes, we've seen the odd lairy moment.

You're going to get from the flair of an experienced youth.

And yes, there was the lock up at the end,

which gave Bono a heart attack.

Betty, on the other side,

Bono did an interview straight after the race and said,

oh my God, that did give me a bit of a moment.

That really did,

which I thought was really funny that Bono admitted that.

But listen, he got through it.

And I think it's a real sign of Kimi stepping up and maturing.

And maybe that was what you said, the sport needed it.

Maybe it's what he needed really early on to think,

well, hang on a minute, hang on a minute.

Maybe I can take it to George.

Yeah, I agree.

And also I wonder whether he was,

well, I don't think he,

I don't think he was ever doubting himself,

but he had obviously had two very bad starts.

He had a really bad start in Melbourne

and he had a bad start in the sprint.

And he just needed a really good race

for, I think, for himself,

but also for everybody else to think,

actually Kimi can do this.

Kimi can take it to George this season.

Do you think he can?

Do you think we will see a,

if Mercedes really are as dominant as they're looking

and as dominant as everyone says they are,

do you think we are gonna see a Kimi

and a George battle here?

Because, I mean, we need it.

We do need it.

We'll come onto the Ferraris.

We do need it,

but I'm not in the all is lost camp

in terms of other teams catching.

So we'll come back to that

when we talk about Ferrari.

Let's imagine it is all Mercedes

for a moment and say, well, can Kimi do it?

I doubt it,

but I couldn't sit here on a podcast and go,

oh no, no, no, Kimi can't do it.

Logic suggests it's probably season three,

like we saw with Oscar in season three,

where he's got it in him,

especially as he's younger in years than Oscar.

So I doubt it,

but with two races of 24,

what, 22 now, of course, 22, of course,

that's gonna take some getting used to, isn't it?

Two races of 22.

If he went and did well in Japan,

which is a tricky track,

and then again,

now Miami was very good last year,

Miami had his first sprint poll.

Again, you think, well, maybe all I'm saying is,

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility.

I said on Instagram,

I think because he had this generational talent tag

attached to him,

that a lot of people thought it was going to be instant.

And actually when you go and watch

Max Verstappen's early races,

it was very quick,

but there were still races where it wasn't,

oh, my God, this kid's amazing.

It does take time in Formula One,

and we're now, of course, in an era,

in a different era to that.

So it does take time.

He's had a lot to get used to,

given the new cars.

It's a lot for a young driver to get the head round.

I don't think it's impossible.

I think unlikely,

but I'm not gonna sit here and say that's impossible

because I just think Kimmy is the real deal.

I think he could just surprises.

I also think massive confidence boost from this weekend.

He dealt with the start really well, didn't he?

Because he obviously knew

I need to make sure George doesn't overtake me,

because if George overtakes me,

there's no coming back from that.

He knew that it's okay if the Ferrari's overtake him

because he'd be able to bring that back,

and I think he dealt with that really well.

That was really telling.

I thought that was really good.

Yeah, I completely agree.

It's good for the sport.

It's a good feel, good story,

because no matter what you think about the rules,

we know not all fans are united on it,

and it's been a bit...

The sport needed it, I think.

Do you know what I mean?

I think there's been a bit of the...

You know, whenever there's some uncertainty,

negativity around,

I think that the sport got...

Well, not just one feel good story,

because we're going to go and talk about the second,

but it was a really good feel,

good story, Kimmy winning,

and I'm delighted for him.

And I reemphasize what I said earlier

that he's spoken so well of, so highly of.

And I...

There's a man at Mercedes there.

I can't remember exact job title.

Something like head of development.

Everybody has fancy job titles in Formula One.

I just immediately struggled to forget,

but Gwyn LaGru is Mercedes

basically head of young driver development,

and I spoke to him last season about Kimmy,

and the maturity,

shown as he's risen through the ranks.

Mercedes have liked this kid since he was a fetus.

Like, they've been so keen on him.

Since he was in his mum's tummy.

Since... Yeah, the first scan,

Gwyn's outside going,

oh, there's a racing driver in there.

Yeah, he's spoken so well of,

so I'm delighted for him.

And also, Betty,

we said this a lot last season.

You know, it's good to have the big names

doing well in F1.

I wanted to see a revival for Ferrari for Mercedes.

It's nice to see Mercedes back up there.

Shall we talk about Ferrari then?

Because it is so good to see Ferrari sort of up there.

Lewis finally getting a Grand Prix podium

in the Ferrari red,

which was just so nice to see as well, wasn't it?

You said that this was coming for Lewis, didn't you?

Did you...

How are you finding sort of watching him at the moment?

Are you feeling really good?

Because he's just...

It's so nice to see Lewis happy.

He's a happy man.

The office I was working in Abu Dhabi in December

was on the first floor,

and there was a little balcony bits

where you could go and stand,

and you could see right over the driver's pen

where they do the interviews.

And there was one...

I think it was the race.

It was either the race or the quali.

I can't remember which one.

And I saw him do the walk.

He'd walked round the back of the paddock

by the marina to avoid the crowds

that you mentioned that happened in an F1 paddock.

He'd walked down the back all the way to the pen,

and he just looked so low.

You could genuinely see his shoulders stooped.

You could see how sad he looked.

He was talking to his press officer,

and I watched him all the way on this walk

and just thought, oh, he's just so sad.

He's just not enjoying himself.

And the contrast to this season

where you see him, the smile on his face,

the sort of, I would say, generic positivity.

His neutral is a smile this season,

as opposed to his neutro being, here we bloody go again.

I've got to do this again.

It's like he's rediscovered his love for the sport.

He seemed in a dark place last year

as he was openly questioning his own ability,

and that wasn't good for anybody to look at.

That was horrible.

It was so horrible to see, wasn't it?

Just on a human level, let alone a sporting level.

So it's just so lovely.

I think, as we said last year,

what we've seen is,

you know, Charle had such a long advantage

of getting used to that Ferrari

because the cars in the last rule set

were evolution rather than revolution.

But now they're both coming at it completely new.

Lewis has had a whole winter at the Ferrari team

to put his thoughts on it.

And plus, there is a theory amongst ex-drivers,

and there are far more about this than me,

that the sort of later breaking approach

that Lewis likes does work

more to his favor in this style of car.

It's all combined, and it just looks

like he's at the top of his game again.

What I'm not doing in any of this

is taking anything away from Charle,

because, actually, we've all...

We can take it as red

that Charle is this top-level driver

who could fight for world championships.

And the question since Lewis has been at Ferrari

is, well, is he going to be able to compete with Charle?

The fact that they are so evenly matched this season

is a testament to both of them.

It's just fascinating.

It's so good.

It's so good to watch, though.

And I know a lot of people,

and there are a lot of comments

saying that the racing's very artificial.

But you've got to say

that when Lewis and Charle

were sort of going wheel to wheel,

that's racing.

Like, you can't take that away from the sport.

That was amazing to watch.

It was great entertainment.

Now, I'm old enough of watching this sport

to remember when we first bought in

tyres that wear out,

that tyres that don't naturally

just last a race distance.

A lot of it was in response

to a thrilling Canadian Grand Prix

in the 2000s that Jensen Button

won hunting down Sebastian Vettel

when Vettel's tyres fell off the cliff.

Pirelli were given an instruction,

basically more of that.

People said that was artificial.

When DRS people said that was artificial.

I have thought at times this season

there's a bit too much on the side

of battery power.

I do think this sport

is full of intelligent people

and things will level out.

But also there is an element

that F1 evolves.

So maybe we are witnessing an evolution here.

So I enjoyed that racing.

It was good racing.

Would maybe the battery power

need to be toned down a little bit in future?

Maybe.

But I enjoyed that racing.

It was entertaining.

It did test their skill.

Without question, it tests their skill.

The biggest thing I'd like to see is

I want drivers to be able to go flat out

and qualifying.

I really do.

I don't think that's the controversial opinion.

But again, I really have faith in the sport

to make tweaks when necessary.

But that racing was great.

It was brilliant.

It was testing both of them, wasn't it?

And it was seeing two incredible drivers

at the top of the game

going head to head, battling each other.

And the thing that I really liked about it

is at the end, they were both like,

yeah, I really enjoyed that battle.

Loved that.

And actually, again,

there was a Toto Wolff pointed this out

and it's the best quote of the weekend, I think.

I grew up watching F1

and the criticism was there's no overtaking.

And he was often right.

You would often see no overtaking

unless it was in the pits.

So we also need to remember

of nostalgia in the past too much.

So I enjoyed that battle.

I loved that battle.

It's great to see Ferrari up there.

Now, yes, it is a big gap, right?

It is a big gap to Mercedes.

What we haven't seen yet this season

is mid-season development.

This is so important in modern day Formula One.

I go back to those days that I just mentioned.

90% of the time in the 90s and the 2000s,

the start of the season,

pecking order-wise,

was very similar, not identical,

but similar by the end of the season.

There was also fewer races, 17, 18 races.

Mid-season development wasn't so much of a thing.

Mid-season development is why

for McLaren have won the titles, they've won.

What I need to see is...

Greg James' favourite catchphrase,

low-hanging fruits.

Can Ferrari grab some of the low-hanging fruit

and take the steps up to Mercedes?

Adjust, again, some of the doomongers at the moment

saying it's all over because Mercedes is up there.

Let him.

You know me, Betty.

I don't mince my words.

I would come on this podcast and say,

yeah, no, I think...

It's going to be a Mercedes winner.

It is...

I think...

Remember how long the season is.

Remember the ups and downs we had last season.

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility

for Ferrari to catch...

I think it would only be Ferrari, really,

but I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility

for Ferrari to catch Mercedes.

I said on our preseason preview

they need to prove to the Formula One world

that they can develop mid-season

as well as some of their rivals.

Let's see if they can.

But it was great entertainment watching the Ferrari scrap.

Potentially headache for them long term.

Yes, this is what it's going to go on to.

So, obviously, you've got these two drivers battling it out.

At the moment, it does feel like they're very level.

Obviously, Lewis really loves Shanghai, doesn't he?

Charlotte Claire doesn't love Shanghai.

So, you know, I think it probably made sense.

Lewis made the...

Yeah, yeah, so great.

Hamilton Track has won there 78,000 times, yeah.

Yeah, so, but going forward,

how does Fred Vassur and Ferrari manage these two?

Because they're in a position now where both of these drivers

could win world championships.

They're both the number one.

So, what do Ferrari do?

Is it like the McLaren issue from last season?

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So, let me be the first to say, Betty,

how about the foggiest?

I do not know.

And it's interesting because,

Cast your mind back many ages ago

when the Hamilton to Ferrari move was announced,

I was actually hosting an event

at the British Motor Museum.

I was surrounded by motor racing geeks.

The best possible place to be when this news broke.

And all of these motor racing geeks around me.

The topic of the day was,

how the hell do you manage that,

if the sort of your instinct reaction was?

How do you manage that?

If your Ferrari, like a McLaren Hamilton,

that question went away.

Because soon as Hamilton got in the car,

it was obvious he was nowhere near a McLaren.

So, we forgotten that as a thing.

That question of two years ago

when it was first announced

that Hamilton was making the move is back.

That's going to be really interesting

because if Betty,

I said then I'm not exactly ruling out Ferrari

making a title fight here.

Imagine they needed to

pick one to go after Russell.

That's a tricky one.

Oh, and I put this on Twitter at the weekend.

And Twitter is a place full of desperation,

sadness and right-wing politics.

But actually, it really made me happy

on this particular occasion.

Because the amount of people

suggesting to me different papaya rules,

like Shudaria rules,

but obviously they're the prancing horse.

So, my favourite suggestion was prancing rules.

Prancing rules, yeah, lovely.

Really, can't believe.

Don't forget prancing rules, boys.

I really enjoy it.

So, maybe we see prancing rules.

Do you think that Charlotte Claire

and Lewis Hamilton are going to spend

too much time, energy and effort

fighting each other

instead of focusing on fighting Mercedes?

I think a lot of people were saying,

in the sprint and then in the Grand Prix in China,

they wouldn't have won it anyway.

No, no, that's it.

At the moment, they can't win.

So, they might as well crack on lads

because we're not going to win.

It's too far.

If all of a sudden, again,

I go back to Miami 23 or 4.

Hang on.

So, if they won the title,

if they won the constructors in 25, 24.

Miami 2024, when McLaren turned up

and somebody quite high up at McLaren

said to me, we think we've made a big breakthrough here.

And they knew they were going to be quick and they were.

If Ferrari have that moment,

Ferrari have that moment where the wind tunnel suggests

or the simulator says we've got something here

and they turn up and it's like,

we think we can win this.

We think we've closed the gap.

That's when it's going to be fascinating.

That's a big pressure on Fred.

How do you manage this situation?

And I guess you're going into territory of

qualifying being really important

and the leader into term one being really important.

Because I also, I don't know, I've just sort of...

And we said this last year with the McLaren boys.

And it did happen, but it didn't happen spectacularly.

The Canada was the obvious one.

I just sort of think they're going to come together at some point.

I really do.

It just seems...

Has been thinking in the sense that he's like, yeah.

Yeah, no, no, no, no.

They are going to come together.

And they definitely are.

They like kiss.

Lewis Hamilton describes it as kissing each other

at the Chinese Grand Prix.

That could have gone worse.

Also, a final thing before we get to a break.

Obviously Lewis hasn't been in the cooldown room for a while.

And there was the little moment.

You might not have seen this Betty

because you'd been on the grid,

but all in the paddock, whatever.

But Lewis going into the cooldown room and going,

oh, this just had not great.

Now they've sort of TV studioized it.

It was really fun.

Like, oh, what have you done with the place?

You haven't been around in a while.

Yeah, lovely.

I really enjoyed that.

Oh, I love that.

I also love the fact that Lewis' mum was there as well.

She's had a right little...

She'll be as tired as you.

She was in Australia as well.

She's on a right little trip, aren't she?

Oh, do you know what someone said to me?

Um, they were like,

the fact Lewis is bringing his mum to the Grand Prix.

I mean, this is his last season.

I was like, no.

Oh, my lord.

None of that.

Honestly, people will jump to all sorts of conclusions.

Lewis Hamilton's got a new pair of shoes.

That means that he's really trying to look smart

for his final season.

That's it.

The rumours, the paddock rumours on that front suggest

they're very opposite.

The paddock rumours on that suggest that Hamilton's looking

at extending the contract and that, you know, that,

and this is all rumours.

But no, my guess would be the opposite on that front.

I'm, I don't think, I don't think this will be

Lewis' final season in Formula One.

I really don't.

You watch.

We'll click this out in October

when he's announced his retirement.

God.

Um, can I ask you a question?

Yes.

Hard question.

I'm just intrigued.

If you were Fred and you had to pick a number one

between Charlotte, Claire and Lewis,

who would you go for?

I wouldn't make that decision here and now.

I'd let them race it out.

And personally,

if I had a car that I thought could win the championship,

I'd get through to, I don't know,

mid season somewhere.

I don't know.

I'd pick a random racer Zambore.

Why not?

And go, right, we're going to have to back

whoever's ahead in the title at this point.

I think the only way you can let this situation happen

is we let you race and you judge it race by race

up until a certain point of the season.

In a race, you go, actually,

we think we can win this race.

We've got to lap 20.

Charles, you were on pole.

You're ahead of Lewis.

Right, Lewis, you're going to have to play the team game here.

Next weekend, if you pointed on pole

and you're ahead by lap 20, it's up to you.

And then if you get later on in the championship

and Charles has got a 15 point advantage,

that's when personally I would be doing that.

But we saw just, only just,

but it worked for McLaren not to do that last season.

So it's fine.

It's fascinating.

It's a really good storyline for this year.

It's really interesting.

It's so good.

I'm obsessed with it because you've basically

got these two drivers at the moment

that know that they can't beat Mercedes.

But they're fighting for team honours against each other.

They need to be ahead of their teammate.

Otherwise, you're sort of going into the season

and you don't want to be the one

that is sort of behind the teammate.

Therefore, you know, number two almost.

Like, oh, it's so good.

Love it. Love it.

Okay, so we've talked about Mercedes.

We've talked about Ferrari.

And we're going to take a very quick break.

When we're back, we're going to talk about the bad news,

the sadder stuff for McLaren and Max fans.

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Now you may or may not know that he's currently doing

an absolutely ridiculous thing

for comic relief at the moment.

Christian, tell us, what is he doing?

He couldn't do anything normal, could he?

He couldn't just swim the channel

or something like normal people.

No, he's on a ludicrous bike, a tandem.

Basically, it's a massive long bike.

What we do love is he showing his love of formula one

by calling the tandem.

Is it a tandem?

How do you pronounce?

Tandem, thank you.

Tandem, a tandem.

I struggle with that.

He's called the tandem Tando Norris,

which is, which is, which is excellent,

lovely.

I'd have still gone for Kimmy Bikenon,

personally,

but it's not a target reference for radio one.

It might be considered a bit niche.

So fair enough.

Or so he likes Lando, doesn't he?

He like, well we all like Lando.

So he's cycling from Weymouth,

which if you're an international listener,

is right down south in England,

all the way up to Edinburgh in Scotland.

A ridiculous 1000 kilometers in eight days.

He's about, we're recording on Tuesday.

He's halfway through,

so he finishes roughly.

And he finishes on Friday.

And what we do love is that lovely,

fast and curious listeners have been messaging us to say

you've been bumping into him en route.

Ah, amazing, yes.

So Rachel says, hi gang.

I met Greg at the end of his third day

of the longest ride on Sunday.

He's doing ever so well despite the weather

and all of the aches and pains.

I did have my Aston Martin cap with me.

But didn't get to chat and show him,

kind of glad though,

as my drinks bottle leaked onto the cap.

Yeah, and also don't be thrown an Aston Martin cap.

The tandem had break down halfway through

or the vibrations would be too much

on Greg's handlebars.

You don't want that.

The tandem's probably faster

than the Aston Martin at the moment.

We shouldn't laugh, we shouldn't laugh.

No, we shouldn't.

Carry on, so that's my fault.

I apologise, come on.

Rachel went on to say he missed out

on a core curve of a race.

He'll definitely enjoy it

whenever he gets the chance to watch it back, I'm sure.

So glad Kimmy won.

Mercedes are truly back

or coming back to their old ways.

If only Aston Martin could as well.

Rachel, we're sorry about Aston Martin,

but hopefully they're going to improve.

Love the pod from Rachel.

Thanks, Rachel.

Thank you, Rachel.

Of course, we want our listeners to get behind him.

Anything you can donate.

It really helps Comet Relief,

which is just a brilliant charity.

If you just search Greg James Comet Relief,

you will find the links to donate.

And we will put the link

in the description of this episode as well.

So we can spread our fast and curious love

to Greg James

on his ridiculous long bike challenge.

And we look forward to getting him back on the pod

when he is back.

Yeah, what a legend.

What a legend is Greg James.

Just a quick one.

He won't mind me saying this.

Despite all what he's doing,

knowing that mothering Sunday

is a bit of a tricky one for me personally,

he still dropped me a text on Sunday to say.

Hope all's okay today.

That is a mark of the man,

wonderful man doing wonderful things.

We love you, Greg James.

He is brilliant.

He's brilliant.

Also,

I don't know if anybody knows this,

but his dad is really un well at the moment.

And I think it's just amazing

that he's doing this whilst doing,

you know, whilst going through everything,

all the sadness with his family and whatever.

So, oh, he's just a legend of a man, Greg James.

Alan will be proud

and we're sending Alan and the Gregory James family

a lot of love as well.

But yeah, what a man.

What a man.

Okay, let's talk about Formula One again, shall we?

Let's do it.

I like how you've linked this.

Christian has written in our running order,

speaking of needing some charity, McLaren.

Good link, get it?

Not just thrown together this.

Not just thrown together this show.

Oh, no, actually, we can't laugh

because it actually feels really bleak

for McLaren at the moment.

It's horrible to watch.

Can I just say, I was on the grid,

obviously pre-China.

Lando didn't make it out of the garage.

That looked bad.

But Oscar looked fine.

He looked fine.

The car was on the grid.

Suddenly, I'm walking off the grid

just throwing to commentary.

And then they're wheeling Oscar's car off the grid.

I'm like, what has happened here?

And the journalistic instincts are going.

That feels significant.

I'm not sure that should be happening over there.

We should mention that.

Why are you wheeling Oscar's car off the grid?

Ah, it's just awful.

Yeah, so, two separates

electrical related issues to do with the engine.

I mean, I suppose it feels more like

we expected it to feel

with these new engines,

which are complicated beasts,

having gremlins as we start the season.

My DMs have been flooded

and the podcasts actually

in the last couple of weeks

with people asking

why we're seeing the likes of them struggle

despite the fact they've got a Mercedes engine.

And it's a really good question.

And I think what's becoming obvious

and we talked about this a little bit

in the, as you said,

Abu Dhabi debrief in the Australia debrief.

Thank you.

We were there, Australia in the other time.

The Abu Dhabi debrief.

Yeah, the Abu Dhabi debrief in the Australia debrief.

That it's always historically been seen

as a advantage to make your own engines.

And the McLaren sort of prove

that you don't really need to win.

Certainly temporarily at the moment

we're back in a position where in Formula One

it really is an advantage

to make your own engine

because as much as you get

this shiny boxed engine

given to you from Mercedes,

if you buy it from them

with an instruction manual,

Mercedes arms don't have to give you

every single hint and tip

as to how to make it work most effectively.

So unlocking the true potential

of these engines

is still a challenge for the customer teams.

Now, I don't think this will last forever.

I think this will even out

as the season goes on.

And that's why I think we will see McLaren

get more competitive.

We don't really know

where they're aerodynamically compared

to Ferrari and Mercedes.

That will be interesting to see

as the season goes on.

It's also why we're seeing

Red Bull struggle

who do make their own engines

but they're much newer to it

in the Red Bull powertrains

making it going their own way

era that they're in

with assistance from Ford.

That's why we're seeing

the other two big teams

struggle a bit more at the moment.

I don't think it will last.

I certainly think better times

are coming from McLaren.

I don't think they're a million miles off

once they sort this out.

And listen, who's to say

that because it happened to McLaren

and by all accounts they got unlucky

I'd be staggered if Mercedes...

Well, we saw it with George in qualifying.

There will be other gremlins

for other Mercedes runners.

I just think McLaren,

thank you pardon, have been very unlucky.

But we're in a more engine dependent formula, ladies and gentlemen.

These things are going to happen.

I just can't imagine how Oscar Piazza is feeling.

We've had two races

and he hasn't raced in either.

He got the sprint, didn't he,

which was nice for him?

He got the sprint

but we've had two Grand Prix

and he hasn't started in either.

He hasn't...

It's just ridiculous, isn't it?

He's...

And also he would have been going into

Sunday thinking,

right, I need to redeem myself now

after everything that happened in Melbourne.

And then he just can't even get going.

The one thing I want to say is he seems chilled.

He doesn't seem like he's beaten himself up.

I think Oscar will bounce back.

I have no worries for Oscar Piazza, long term.

I think maybe there is just a...

I tell you, he made actually a really good point.

I don't know if you noticed this, Betty.

His old Ted Kravitz on Sky Sports F1 said that

he was looking at Lando across the weekend saying

that he maybe thought it was the first time he'd seen Lando's post-Abu Dhabi glow

disappear of the sort of reality hitting of,

I'm not going to defend this title, am I?

Because while there's me saying,

I don't think it's too late for Ferrari to challenge,

I can't see a McLaren title fight this year.

So I don't know if you witnessed that

with McLaren this weekend,

seeing the sorts of...

Maybe the thing of...

We've had two constructors wins,

we've had a drivers win.

It's probably not going to happen this year.

I think they knew that, though, didn't they?

Going into this season, I think they knew.

I think that's why the pressure was on so much last season.

They had the dominant car.

If they didn't get the job done last season,

I think, you know,

you'd think, well, are you ever going to get the job done?

Yeah, no, it's...

Well, yeah, and as I said,

I actually think in this rule set,

look, McLaren have not become a bad team overnight.

I think, I'll already say,

I'd be very surprised if they weren't challenging

for the title next season.

They've got the skills, know-how and ability.

I think it'll come,

I just think it's going to take a bit,

as I said, longer for the customer teams in this rule set.

Let's talk about Max then at Red Bull

because he's having an absolute nightmare

and it just seems to be getting worse

and worse and worse, doesn't it?

Yeah, it does.

I don't know about you.

It does feel to me,

he's clearly not enjoying this car.

Therefore, he's not enjoying the new rules.

It does feel to me that with the whole rules debate,

you get Toto and Lewis being like,

we're having a lovely time.

Then Max being like,

these things are the worst things

that have ever happened to sport.

And it is like, well, yes.

Not necessarily a coincidence, is it?

That the ones who were struggling with the cars

hate the rules and the ones that are doing well

don't hate the rules so much.

Max doesn't seem to be happy

and I do hope that Red Bull

find a way of finding performance

because I think naturally,

regardless of his views on the rules,

if Red Bull find performance,

we'll see a happier Max.

And Max is,

it's a controversial thing to say

that he's currently the number one in the sport

in terms of sheer ability at this moment,

we want him to be up there.

So I hope they get it,

but he's not happy, he's not enjoying it.

And I hope Red Bull unlocks

some potential and performance

because it's not just the engine.

They seem to be struggling

with the overall package as well.

The cheer drive ability of the car,

he's talking about a lot,

which has been a problem

for Red Bull in recent seasons.

So, yeah.

I would have loved to have just known

what was going through his head

when he was in that midfield battle

with like Cullopinto,

Bearman, Ocon, Gasly,

and then Verstappen.

He must have just been like, oh my God,

how have I ended up in this position?

Great battle, that though.

No, but we're not talking about that enough.

That was brilliant.

Yeah, absolutely fantastic.

Again, more great race,

which was really enjoyable.

I guess the positive,

brighter note for Red Bull, though,

is that Isaac Hajar

seems to be doing pretty well.

I think it's a really positive note

for Red Bull because

the spotlight was being shown

more and more on guys

you've got to sort this second seat out.

It feels to me

that they've got a driver now

that is comfortable in the second seat.

Again, like we were saying

with Hamilton and Leclerc,

the fact that the both

coming into this car fresh

will definitely help.

But Isaac Hajar

seems to be doing

what nobody has done at Red Bull

for the last two decades,

three decades, seven decades,

generation.

Coming in,

I'm being near max,

and I don't think we can

heap enough praise in him for that.

We heaped so much praise in him last year.

He's doing really well,

so I'm delighted for Isaac

doing really well.

And that is a positive for Red Bull

that it feels like

when they do sort this car out

and look, this is a team

that's dominated the sport

and it feels inevitable

that they will at some stage.

It feels like they will have a driver

line up,

providing they can persuade Max

to stick around.

That means they can have

two drivers up there

and have a second driver

doing what Antonelli did this weekend

of winning the race

when Russell had the qualifying issue.

You know, they've not had that

consistently for a long time now

since Checa was winning races

in his early time in the team.

Since Ricardo was doing it.

It's been a long time for them.

Well done, Isaac Hajar.

He's doing a great job.

Yeah, they've needed it, haven't they?

I will be so thoroughly depressed

if Max left at the end of this season.

Yeah, I'd be surprised.

I think he'd give it a bit longer.

But I still don't think

he's going to be one of these drivers

there when he's in his late 30s, early 40s.

You like your Fernandos

and your Nicos and your Lewis.

I think he, I don't think he wants

to be in it long term

for so many reasons.

So I don't think he's going yet.

But I think it will.

I don't think he'll be a Fernando Alonso.

Put it that way.

Hope he doesn't go.

OK, I feel like we should take another break.

Christian, when we're back,

we're going to talk about our community notice board.

We've got Radio Radar

and we're going to be talking about

a few other little things.

So stick around, guys.

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Con un poco de papel,

estuquen en esto,

son cosas que la comunidad

quiere decir.

No sé,

necesito un babysitter,

necesito un cleaner,

estoy vendiendo un pram.

He perdido mis trenes.

Sí, Betty,

he perdido todo.

No, no,

no, no, no.

No tengo nada más.

No, Ian Biel style.

Más que lo perdiste

como si fuieras.

¡Biel style!

Sí,

muy internacional.

Pero,

esto es eso, ¿no?

Y hemos dicho,

¿cuál en la forma en la que Paddock

iría a hacer este notispo?

Si hubiera sido George Russell, ¿no?

¡No hubiera sido!

Él es el persona

que iría a hacer esto.

Así que,

vamos a poner algunas cosas

en nuestro notispo de comunidad, ¿no?

Vamos a hacer un poco de papel

con un poco de papel.

Ok, perdón.

Y también,

si imaginas George Russell

hacer este notispo,

puedo imaginar

Fernando Alonso,

Luis Hamilton

como dibujando

como Willys

en el papel

y ponerlo ahí

para intentar ser divertido también.

Sí, y los niños.

Y los niños.

Antonelli.

Antonelli,

¿puedo poner un p***

en el notispo, ¿no?

Sí, sí.

Es así.

Sí,

claro.

Y también,

y Oli Berman.

Estás escuchando

un podcast formal.

No, pero en ese punto,

hemos tenido que hablar de Oli Berman.

Pesos no están hablando

de Oli Berman

y Haas

Él fue muy bueno.

Él es realmente

un joven para ver,

¿no, Cristian?

¿Estás disfrutando

de ver su talento?

Sí.

Así que,

él se puso a la escena

muy espectacular

con sus superseparaciones.

Y entonces,

tal vez,

la primera mitad

de su fin de tiempo

con Haas de la temporada,

fue como,

¡eh!

Hay un par de errores.

Tal vez no es

tan rápido

como

él necesita ser consistentemente.

Hay siempre

el delirio,

la velocidad rara

fue ahí,

pero tal vez no se puede

extranjer consistentemente.

Y yo realmente creo que

fue como un post silvestre.

Él ha hecho un error

en la entidad del p***

en el punto de vista

del weekend de Silvestre.

Cuando me ocurrié

mirando en frente de mí,

y yo estaba como,

¡Oh, Oli!

Eso es malo,

pero si

esos errores

just disappeared

after that,

and ever since then

he's gone from strength

to strength,

he started this season

ridiculously well

and Haas

have made a very

drivable car.

They've come into a

new rule set,

maximise their package,

which is just typical

of the leadership of that team

ever since Kamatsu took over.

They seem to be really good

at getting the best out of it.

Oli is doing fantastically.

The pressure is now on esterband.

He, Oli is proving that car

can finish in the points.

Esterband's not at the best starts

of the season.

We're big fans of him

on this podcast.

He's the loveliest man.

I'm a big Ocon fan.

So I really hope

Esterband can be up there

in the points.

If he is soon,

Haas can have a brilliant season.

Really, really brilliant.

Esterband had a bit of a nightmare,

didn't he?

And he got beaten by Cadillac, which...

At this stage is not ideal.

Not ideal.

Okay, next on the community notice board,

Renao revival Christian.

Yeah, now I've called this

piece of paper Renao revival

in the heading

because I couldn't think of a pun

for Alpine,

but it's owned by Renao,

so just stay with me.

I just think they've done really,

really well.

And I really gave them stick last year

saying, look,

this is a team

that shouldn't be finishing bottom

of the Constructors Championship.

They really seem to have pulled it

together.

The 10th and 6th for Gasly.

Colin Pinto finally got his first point

for Alpine.

And that could have been more,

were it not for a tangle.

He looked right on Gasly's pace

in the race.

So it looks like they've got two drivers

capable of scoring points

and a massively improved car.

So well done Alpine.

Big time.

And also I spoke to Pierre Gasly

after the race thinking,

right, he's going to be really happy.

P6, great points on the board,

had a really good race.

He was really annoyed.

He thought he should have done better.

He thought he should have beaten

Ollie Bearman.

And I like that.

And I thought, oh,

you're really confident this season.

You think you can do

way better than you're doing at the moment.

They're clearly really confident.

Alpine, definitely worth keeping an eye on.

Whilst we're talking about

the sort of midfield pack

that are doing well,

we've got to talk about Liam Lawson.

Yeah.

Now I saw a few people on Twitter

saying I don't think enough people

are talking about Lawson.

I tend to agree because

Lindblad has made some headlines

early on

because he's come in and done really well.

But Liam had a really good race.

A really good race.

I'm just grabbing my notes.

He was 7th, remember if he was 7th or 8th.

Yeah, he was excellent

at the weekend.

And I just think he's one of those drivers

that it's become a little bit

fashionable to kick

because of obviously the brutality

of what happened to him last year,

which looking back,

you know,

there's no way

you should have been dropped

from that Red Bull seat.

He'd have done

absolutely no worse

than Yuki Senoda in that seat.

You know,

it just was an impossible seat

to be given.

So he was treated so harshly.

And I hope he's

we're showing some green shoots here

of reviving his career.

And the same way to what Gasly did,

that he went out and got himself

a drive elsewhere,

which is what I think Lawson

long term will be looking to do.

And please, Liam,

I like him a lot.

I've said this a lot on the part.

I really like speaking to him.

I think he's a good guy.

So I'm I think both Limblad.

Great start to his career.

Absolutely brilliant.

Obviously got a tangle early on Limblad.

Didn't get points this weekend,

but no worries there.

He's he started brilliantly.

I think actually it's interesting

racing Bulls, Alpine, Haas,

all of them,

given the reliability stuff

that's happening at the moment.

Don't be surprised,

see any of those teams

on the podium this year.

Yeah, agreed.

Also, maybe if Max Verstappen

starts upping his game,

he might get promoted

to the racing Bulls seat.

Yes, here we are.

We're back to that again

like last year.

I know.

Right.

Next on the Community Notice Board,

we've got to talk about the fact

that Fernando Alonso

was driving with no hands

on multiple occasions.

Have you seen the on boards?

Have you seen the video?

It's extraordinary.

It's absolutely extraordinary.

I mean,

yes,

we're going to talk about

the break in a moment,

that now what's going to be

a week or April break,

it's come at a good time

for Aston Martin

to go back to the drawing board

a little bit.

There's not much more you can say

other than what we said

in our Australia debrief

that it's all gone very,

very wrong.

And I really hope

for Aston Martin's sake.

This was,

you know,

we wanted to be going

into 2026,

talking about a new force

at the top,

mixing it with the likes

of certainly Red Bull

and McLaren,

where they are now,

if not McLaren,

sorry,

if not Mercedes and Ferrari,

we've not got it.

And I can't remember

in modern Formula One history

things like,

well,

I've got to stop

because of the vibrations.

It is unprecedented.

It's all gone.

Riving in a Formula One car,

having to take your hands off of it

for like,

it's like a good light,

second in a bit,

where he's just having to let go

and the car is just wild.

I don't think we've ever seen,

have we ever seen that before?

It's crazy.

Oh, no,

there's been moments

where things like this

have happened in decades

ago,

but in modern Formula One history,

I'm sure somebody might pop

something in the comments

if I've missed something,

but it feels unprecedented to me

in the last decade or two,

really does.

Also on the notice board,

we've got to say

that Bahrain

and Saudi Arabia

grumperies

are not happening

in April.

That has been confirmed.

So now there's this lovely,

well, lovely...

Not lovely if you want to watch racing.

Not lovely if you want to watch racing,

but now there's this massive break

in April.

So like you sort of alluded to,

that is going to be very good

for some of the teams.

You know,

you're Aston Martins,

you're Williams.

They're going to need this time.

It's a double-edged sword.

On the one hand,

they're missing out on running time.

You learn most about your car

through running

and through getting laps in.

And Williams did manage

to get a point at the weekend,

but let's be honest,

it came from retirement rather than pace.

So the Carlos did well

to extract what he could from the car.

Albon had more problems.

Yeah,

the opportunity to get back in the sim

and spend some time at the factory

I think will be grateful

for some of those teams.

We're obviously missing these two races.

They will not be replaced.

It was seen as too impractical

to last-minute rush to circuits

that might be available

in terms of selling tickets.

These operators would have to run at a loss,

which is just not the way the sport works.

I noticed Formula One in its statement

said that the races won't happen in April.

To me, that is deliberate wording

and I think they are deliberately leaving

open the possibility

of slotting something in

at the end of the season.

While that clearly isn't impossible

or so that wording

wouldn't have been put like that,

I think that is extremely unlikely.

Extremely unlikely.

So expect a 22 race season.

Yeah, okay.

Also, Roxy asks,

are the teams allowed to use

the cancelled races for testing time

or is that limited to pre-season?

No, mid-season testing

has been banned in Formula One

for a long time now.

You get your pre-season test.

They got more pre-season test this year

because of the new rules.

It's a good question.

I saw a lot of people speculating on it

on social media at the weekend.

Roxy, D'Embres, no.

They will be able to spend more time

at the factory, more time in the sim.

They'll be able to do more homework,

but they will not be able to go

and rent a track like Hereth

and do some laps around it.

It doesn't change anything on that front.

It will be very bit.

You'll think it will be beneficial

for the likes of Williams.

They'll be able to sort of concentrate

a little bit

and try and work some things out,

you hope.

You hope so.

I don't know.

Right.

Radio, radar.

Christian,

anything that caught your eye?

I just enjoyed,

and we mentioned it at the start,

I enjoyed Charlotte Clair going,

I rather enjoyed this battle.

I just thought that was so refreshing

because it feels like,

and by the way,

I was this when I was racing.

Every time anybody made contact with me,

when I was in the cart,

I thought it was the worst thing in the world.

So I do think like,

any form of sports person,

if you might sum up,

like a footballer,

when there's a tackle,

like that was an outrageous tackle.

And he watched it on the telly

and he like,

I know it was fine, wasn't it?

But still,

we've got used to the drivers

every time being like,

that's the,

that was the worst moving formula

on history.

He's just pushed me off the sink.

I'm lucky to be alive.

That's a disgrace.

So actually the way Charlotte was like,

I'd rather enjoy myself.

This is quite good fun.

I just thought that was,

that was lovely.

Despite the fact,

24 hours prior to that,

he was doing exactly what we used to

and moaning in the sprint race.

So well done, Charlotte.

I'd have given Charlotte

an extra world championship point

for that.

Yeah, would you?

Yeah, fair.

Same, same.

Actually, give it,

give him the point.

Um, but also it's funny,

the fact that he finished P4

and Lewis Hamilton finished

on the podium.

You'd think Charlotte Clare would be

like really angry about that,

but he just was like,

yeah, I had a great time.

It was having a nice time.

Credit to him for having a nice Sunday.

I'm pleased for him.

I really am.

The other thing that we've really

got to talk about,

this isn't radio,

but this is radar,

because the PAA announcer guy

that was announcing the podiums

said Kimi Reichenan

instead of Kimi Antonelli.

I feel so sorry.

This guy's a legend

and has been doing it for so long

and never makes a mistake.

So I'm bless him.

He must feel awful

and I hope he doesn't,

because things like this

in the grand scheme of things

don't matter at all.

And I'll just really,

really, really funny.

And we shouldn't take this sport

too seriously.

It was like in the Australian Grand Prix.

The person who put on the graphics,

color pinto and go penalty,

would have felt horrific

and it was hysterically funny.

Yeah, it was good.

We should normalize

people making funny mistakes.

So it was just the way

Kimi's face was like,

Kimi, Reichenan,

and we've all done it.

Kimi just went...

We've all done it

in Formula 1.

I definitely have.

We've all done it.

And with the racists,

that guy's been doing it

for years.

These are legends.

It was just such muscle man.

We have such sympathy for him,

but listen,

we back you, mate.

We back you.

Funny gaffes.

We want to just have a laugh with.

But...

Also,

Kimi took it really well.

But also,

you can just imagine.

You're there.

You're on the mic.

And you're like,

Kimi, Reichenan.

Yeah, smash that.

Smash that.

Yeah, well done.

What?

What did I just say?

Very funny.

Extremely, extremely funny.

And we need to go

because we need to wrap this up very quickly.

You wanted to talk about Japan, didn't you?

Because you think it's going to be

really interesting.

Yeah, Japan up next.

Just a couple of things to keep an eye out for.

It's a track that's sometimes

quite hard to overtake.

So it will be fascinating to see

what sort of racing we get

with these new cars.

Let's see if we get more overtaking,

which we want.

We really do.

So I'll be really interested to see

the energy harvesting,

the overtaking,

how it all works around Japan.

Keep an eye out for that.

That'll be a big talking point

for the weekend.

As will Aston Martin.

They've got two weeks now

to go away.

Honda and Japan.

It's like a...

It's a national brand.

It's...

You know, we think about Italy and Ferrari.

There's a really similar relationship.

Honda is everything to Japan.

You go...

I was looking enough to be there

last year in Japan.

Hondas everywhere.

This huge pressure on

Honda running teams

to do well when they go to Japan.

So Aston will be desperate.

OK, they're realistic,

but they'll desperate to come out

of Japan going,

look, we've made a step forward here.

We've shown that we're on the right.

Front.

It'll be interesting to see

whether Adrian knew he's on the ground

because he wasn't in China.

That was pre-planned apparently,

but they will be desperate

to make a step forward.

They really will,

because that's tricky.

That is tricky.

It is indeed.

Well, it'll be interesting, won't it?

And neither of us are going to be in Japan.

So we can sit on our sofas

and watch it together virtually.

Which one do you find?

Old school.

Like Formula One,

we're going to take a week off,

but we'll be back on the Tuesday

after the Japanese Grand Prix.

We will still be popping up

to react to all of the breaking news

and bring you all the big name interviews

like we've been doing for the past three

and whatever years we've been doing this for.

And also, guys,

keep sending in your questions

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Fast, curious pod

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Yeah, send us whatever.

Questions.

This has been lovely.

I've loved having a chat,

catching up with you, my friend,

and chatting all things F1.

This has been a delight.

And thank you to all the lovely listeners

that reacted so positively

when we did say that we're moving to a Tuesday.

It's a lot of logistics this season,

especially with us both being on the road.

So we're desperate to do it.

We've said before it's not our only thing.

It's not the thing that pots money on the table for us.

So thank you for your understanding

that you might have to just wait

a little bit longer of a Tuesday.

But it means we get a bit more time

to formulate our thoughts.

Think, and then we'll all have a catch up midweek.

Look forward to the next race.

Look back on the last one.

It'll be lovely.

So thanks, guys.

We appreciate you.

We've seen it, Betty, haven't we,

the last couple of weeks with being on the road.

The warmth and love for this podcast.

We so appreciate it.

So thank you.

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Yeah.

The fast and the curious listeners are unbelievable.

Honestly, I can't even say it enough.

Like, I'm so grateful for you.

There'll be people listening to this.

Sorry to interrupt.

There'll be people listening to this.

I don't know if they would say that.

It's such a cliche media thing.

Our listeners are the best.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you, guys.

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