Law Abiding Biker | Street Biker Motorcycle Podcast Apr 17, 2026

LAB-427-Riding While Armed and Firearms Legal Protection with Partron Matt Haywood

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Car

Shoei Neotech

The Shoei Neotech is a type of motorcycle helmet. They’re mentioning that they had to exchange it for a larger size, which matters because a helmet that fits right is safer and more comfortable.

Brand

Zero 3d

Zero 3d is a company that sells add-on parts for motorcycles. Here they’re talking about lighting and comfort accessories you can install to improve how your bike looks and feels.

Term

chrome lighting

“Chrome lighting” just means motorcycle lights that look shiny/chrome. People usually upgrade them to make the bike look better and sometimes to get brighter, more efficient LEDs.

Term

plug and play system

“Plug and play” means the part is made to connect easily to your bike. Instead of cutting or rewiring, you usually just plug it in and go.

Brand

Hog works

Hog Works is a company that makes aftermarket motorcycle parts. The hosts like it because the parts fit well, look good, and the support/customer service is responsive.

Car

Harleys

“Harleys” is a casual reference to Harley-Davidson motorcycles. In this context, the hosts say they run Hog Works gear on their own Harleys, implying the accessories are compatible with Harley-Davidson models and fit well in real-world use.

Term

butt buffer

A “butt buffer” is a cushion-like add-on for a motorcycle seat. It’s meant to make long rides more comfortable by changing how the seat feels.

Term

air flow cover

The “air flow cover” is a specific butt-buffer cover style intended to improve airflow and change the seat’s surface characteristics. The hosts mention it being available in different colors, implying multiple cover variants for the same base system.

Term

pebble polymer

“Pebble polymer” is a nicer insert material for the seat accessory. It’s meant to feel better than the simpler version.

Term

polymer insert

The “polymer insert” is the core piece inside the seat accessory. Changing the insert changes how the seat feels.

Term

classic insert

The “classic insert” is the simpler, cheaper insert option. It’s smooth on both sides, so it won’t have the same texture as the upgraded version.

Term

polymer pebble

They’re talking about a cushioned insert with a bumpy “pebble” texture. The bumps are meant to make the ride more comfortable and help protect your body from pressure points.

Term

colored pads

They say you can pick different colors, but the outer cover is the same. The important difference is the inside insert, not the color.

Term

pressure points

Pressure points are the spots where you get most of the force from sitting/positioning. If those spots aren’t cushioned well, they can get sore on a ride.

Part

oil filter sockets

An oil filter socket is a special wrench-like tool made to grip an oil filter correctly. It helps you loosen the filter without slipping or getting it stuck. You attach it to a ratchet/extension so removal is easier and safer.

Term

cut out

A cut-out is a missing section in the tool so it can fit around something in the way. Here, it’s to clear a sensor and its wires. That way you can still use the socket to remove the oil filter.

Term

flutes

Flutes are the little ridges on the end of some oil filters. The right socket has matching grooves so it can grab the filter firmly. That makes it easier to loosen without damaging the filter.

Term

twin cams

“Twin cams” is a type of Harley engine. Different engine designs place parts like sensors and wiring in different spots. That affects which oil-filter tool will fit correctly.

Term

3/8s drive sockets

“3/8s drive” is the size of the connection between the tool and your ratchet. If you have a 3/8 ratchet, you want a socket that matches it. That way it fits tight and turns the tool properly.

Topic

motorcycle majority

They’re just describing their motorcycle community/show name. It doesn’t refer to a specific bike or car part.

Topic

Biker revolution

This is a catchy phrase the hosts use for their biker community. It’s not about bike mechanics or a specific motorcycle.

Term

front wheel removal and installation

This is the step-by-step process of taking the front wheel off your bike and putting it back on. If you do it wrong, the bike can feel unstable, so it’s important to follow the correct procedure.

Term

dealer fees

Dealer fees are the extra charges a dealership adds for doing the work. The hosts are saying you can save money by removing the wheel yourself and then having the tire work done.

Term

slow leak on my front tire

A slow leak means your tire is losing air little by little. On a bike, that can make the ride feel off and can get worse over time, so it’s worth fixing quickly.

Term

tire machine

A tire machine is the tool a shop uses to take the tire off the wheel and put it back on. It makes the process easier and helps prevent damage to the tire or wheel.

Term

Harley front wheel removal videos

Front wheel removal means taking the front wheel off the bike, often to change a tire or do brake-related work. It’s important to keep track of the parts (like spacers) so everything goes back on correctly.

Term

rear wheel

Rear wheel work is taking the back wheel off the motorcycle, usually for a rear tire or related maintenance. When you put it back, you have to get the chain alignment/tension right so it rides properly.

Brand

Icon Stormhawk boots

Icon Stormhawk boots are a specific pair of motorcycle riding boots. They’re being recommended because they hold up well and help keep your feet dry on long rides.

Term

iron butts

“Iron butts” are super long motorcycle endurance rides. If riders use the same boots for those trips, it usually means the gear is comfortable and durable for hours and hours.

Term

boa lacing system

A BOA lacing system is a dial-based way to tighten your boots. Instead of tying laces, you turn a knob to get a snug fit, which can be handy for long rides.

Topic

official ride, meetup and events

They’re talking about the event schedule for the group ride. It includes a meet-up time, then a ride to a meal/social event later in the day.

Concept

group ride

A group ride is when a bunch of riders go out together instead of separately. There’s usually a plan for where to meet and where to go next.

Topic

kickstands up

“Kickstands up” means it’s time to get going. Everyone is done chatting and starts the ride together.

Concept

18 states in 12 days

They’re talking about riding across a lot of states in a short time. That means you have to plan gas, places to sleep, and basic bike upkeep more carefully than on a normal weekend ride.

Concept

base is going to be out surrounding Nashville, Tennessee area

They’ll stay in one main area near Nashville and ride out from there. That usually makes the trip easier because you’re not constantly changing where you sleep.

Concept

5,000 miles

They’re saying the group will ride around 5,000 miles. Over that kind of distance, you usually need to keep an eye on things like tires, chain maintenance, and brake feel.

Term

28 foot trailer

A 28-foot trailer is just how long the trailer is. People choose a longer trailer when they need more room for stuff, but it can be harder to park and turn around than a shorter one.

Concept

solar

Solar is a way to make electricity from sunlight. If your trailer has solar, it can help keep the battery charged so you can run things like lights.

Company

Blue Eddy Jet

Blue Eddy Jet sounds like a portable battery power unit. It’s basically a rechargeable power source that lets you run electrical stuff when you’re not plugged into the grid.

Concept

LED lights

LED lights are the modern, efficient kind of lights. They usually use less power and last longer, which is handy when you’re running lights off a trailer battery.

Concept

battery tender

A battery tender is a device that “keeps” your motorcycle battery charged safely. It’s useful if you don’t ride every day and want the bike to start easily when you do.

Concept

24 footer

A “24 footer” just means the trailer is about 24 feet long. Longer trailers can fit more bikes, but they’re also harder to park and maneuver.

Term

helmet holders

Helmet holders are brackets or mounts that let you strap your helmet in place. Instead of it bouncing around in the back, it stays put and is less likely to get scuffed or damaged.

Term

power plugs

Power plugs are just outlets so you can run or charge electronics. In this context, it sounds like they’re for rider gear like headsets.

Concept

cargo tie-down setup for motorcycle transport

They’re talking about setting up a trailer or hauling space so the bike and gear stay secure. Using things like wheel chocks and tie-down rails reduces the chance of the bike shifting during transport.

Term

chocks

Chocks are blocks you put against a tire so it can’t roll. They’re a simple safety step that helps keep your bike from shifting while you’re transporting it.

Term

e-track

E-track is a set of metal rails in a trailer that you can attach straps to. It helps you secure bikes and other gear so they don’t move around.

Concept

battery backups

A battery backup is like a separate rechargeable power pack. It can run your stuff without using your bike/car’s starting battery, so you’re less likely to end up stranded.

Concept

charging while we're rolling down the road

They’re saying the power system can keep charging as you drive. The takeaway is that the trailer’s batteries are handled on their own, not by draining the bike/car battery.

Term

battery pack

A battery pack is the big rechargeable battery that holds the power. Saying it only drained “8%” means it used a small amount of the stored energy.

Term

outputs

Outputs are the different ways you can plug things into the battery. They can provide different types of power depending on what you’re charging.

Term

120s

“120s” probably means the battery system can provide normal household-style power (120 volts). That’s useful if your charger or device plugs in like you would at home.

Term

floodlights

Floodlights are very bright lights that spread out to cover a big area. People use them on trailers so the whole campsite is easier to see at night.

Concept

separate electrical system (from the truck)

Instead of powering the trailer lights from the truck, the trailer has its own power setup. That way, when you’re parked, you can run lights without needing the truck connected.

Term

short plug power

They’re describing a simple power setup for the trailer using a plug. Instead of running a long cable every time, you connect power through a nearby plug.

Concept

drill a hole through the side of the trailer and mount a plug

They’re explaining how to add an outside power plug to a trailer. You drill a hole, mount the plug on the outside, and connect it to outlets inside so you can plug in and use power.

Term

male plug

A male plug is the part with the metal pins. It plugs into a matching socket, and the type matters so you can connect the power source the right way.

Term

shore power plug

Shore power is when you plug your trailer into an outside wall outlet. That way you can run your stuff and charge batteries without relying on your own power system.

Concept

auxiliary power to prevent battery drain

They’re talking about using extra power so your bikes don’t run down while they’re parked or being transported. The goal is to avoid battery trouble if you forget a setting or don’t ride for a while.

Term

Off shore power

This sounds like “shore power,” meaning plugging into an external power source instead of using your own battery. It’s a way to keep things powered without draining your bike’s system.

Term

tow haul mode

Tow/haul mode is a setting that helps a vehicle handle heavy loads. It changes how the car/bike powertrain behaves so it doesn’t work as hard or shift in a way that’s worse for towing.

Term

battery thing

They’re referring to some kind of battery-powered gear. The key idea is that it can charge or power something for their riding/trailer setup, and they think it’s neat even if it’s more than they personally need.

Term

towing bikes

They’re talking about hauling motorcycles with a trailer. The point is whether the extra gear is worth it for how often they actually tow bikes.

Term

LED lighting

They’re considering switching to LED lights. LEDs usually use less power and last longer than traditional bulbs, which matters when you’re running things off a battery.

Term

20 foot

They’re comparing trailer sizes—this one is about 20 feet. The smaller the trailer, the easier it usually is to tow and store, and they’re using that to argue about whether extra gear is worth it.

Term

12 foot

“12 foot” means the trailer is about 12 feet long. Longer trailers can carry more bikes, but they’re also harder to maneuver.

Term

six by 12

“Six by 12” is just the size of the trailer—about 6 feet wide and 12 feet long. A trailer that size can usually fit one bike comfortably, depending on how the bikes are positioned.

Term

touring bike

A touring bike is a motorcycle configured for long-distance riding, usually with comfort-focused ergonomics and luggage capability. Trailer choice often changes with touring bikes because they may be larger and require more secure tie-down points.

Term

dirt biking

Dirt biking is riding off-road. People usually trailer their bikes to trails, so having a trailer that’s easy to maneuver matters.

Term

saddlebags

Saddlebags are the bags that attach to the sides of a motorcycle. They’re used to carry extra stuff on rides, especially longer trips.

Term

helmets

Helmets are the safety helmets riders wear. In this segment they’re also talking about how helmets take up space when loading bikes for a trip.

Concept

loner

A “loner” is basically a loaner motorcycle. The shop keeps it around so people can ride while their own bike is in the shop, or so the shop can do projects without waiting. In this case, they’ve had this bike as a loner for a while.

Term

110 screaming eagle

“Screaming Eagle” is Harley-Davidson’s performance brand. The “110” usually means a bigger engine than stock, which is often what people mean when they say it feels faster.

Topic

Facebook Marketplace low ballers

They’re talking about selling a bike and how some people on Facebook Marketplace make very low offers. It’s basically the usual “try to pay less” behavior when buying used.

Term

floorboards

Floorboards are where your feet rest on some motorcycles. If you’re used to them and then ride something with a different foot setup, it can feel weird at first.

Concept

adventure vs street vs metric

They’re basically saying they don’t care what kind of motorcycle it is—whether it’s made for rougher roads (adventure), regular roads (street), or from a different style/brand category (metric).

Concept

long distance touring

Long distance touring means taking longer trips on a motorcycle. It’s less about quick bursts and more about comfort and how the bike feels over time.

Car

Low Rider S

The Low Rider S is a Harley-Davidson cruiser motorcycle. Here they’re saying it’s a heavy bike, and with a bigger 110 engine it can launch hard from a stop.

Term

Screamin Eagle 110

“Screamin’ Eagle 110” is a Harley performance setup. The “110” means the engine is bigger (110 cubic inches), which usually gives the bike more pulling power.

Car

Alpine A110

The Alpine A110 is a small sports car built for handling. It’s designed to feel quick and nimble rather than big and heavy. People talk about it because it’s meant to be fun to drive.

Term

reef on it

“Reef on it” just means to hit the throttle harder. If you do that while turning and the tires don’t have enough grip, the bike can start to slide or spin.

Term

high side

A “high side” is when the bike loses traction and the rider gets thrown off, often up and over the bike. It can happen if you accelerate too hard when the tires don’t have enough grip.

Term

first gear

First gear is the gear you use to get moving from a stop. They’re saying that with the bigger engine, the bike pulls so hard in first that it can feel intense right away.

Term

forward controls

“Forward controls” means the foot pegs are mounted farther forward than usual. That changes how your legs sit, which can affect comfort and how you balance the bike.

Term

T bars

“T bars” are a type of motorcycle handlebar shape/height. They can change how you sit and how the bike feels to steer, especially when you’re leaning and turning.

Concept

federal firearms license

An FFL is a legal permit from the federal government that lets someone sell guns and ammo. The host is talking about how unusual it is to do that kind of retail sales from a home address in California.

Concept

Second Amendment advocacy work

This is about a constitutional right in the U.S. People doing “advocacy” try to protect or expand gun rights using politics and lawsuits. It’s not about motorcycles or car parts, but it’s the legal backdrop of the episode.

Concept

neutered magazine ban

A magazine is the part that holds ammunition in a gun. A “magazine ban” limits how many bullets it can hold, and “neutered” here means the speaker thinks the restriction is only partial or not as strict as it could be.

Concept

background checks for ammunition

In some places, buying bullets can require a background check too—similar to buying a gun. The speaker is saying it makes ammo purchases more complicated and expensive.

Concept

open carry state

“Open carry” means you can carry a gun openly in public where it’s visible. The speaker is saying that in Washington, you don’t have to hide it to be legal.

Company

Yakima police

Yakima police is the local police department the speaker is working with to get the required paperwork. They’re saying it’s easier because the department sets up the process and provides the documentation.

Term

HR 218

HR 218 is a U.S. law that affects whether certain law enforcement people—like some retirees—can legally carry a firearm. Because it’s eligibility-based, you may need the right paperwork or qualification card with you.

Term

Leosa

LEOSA is a U.S. law that can let certain qualified law enforcement people carry concealed firearms across state lines. The transcript highlights that you may need the correct qualification paperwork with you.

Concept

qualification card

A qualification card is basically your official proof that you completed the required training. If your card doesn’t cover the specific legal rules being discussed, you may need a different card with you.

Concept

grand jury

A grand jury is a group that looks at the facts in a case to decide if prosecutors should file charges. The point here is that self-defense doesn’t automatically prevent legal scrutiny.

Company

firearms legal protection

This is a company that helps pay for legal help if you ever get into trouble after using a firearm for self-defense. The hosts are saying it’s there for people who don’t have a law background.

Concept

CCW permit

A CCW permit is permission to carry a handgun concealed. It doesn’t mean you can do anything you want—there are rules, and if you ever use it in self-defense, the legal system gets involved.

Concept

CCW permanent

“CCW” means you’re allowed to carry a concealed firearm. The key point is that having that permit doesn’t mean you can jump into any conflict like a cop—you still have to follow the law and only use force when it’s justified.

Concept

self-defense incidents

“Self-defense incidents” are cases where someone says they used force to protect themselves. The important part is that the law looks at whether the threat was real and whether the response was reasonable.

Concept

hero mindset

The “hero mindset” is when someone thinks, “I have a gun, so I should step in and play the hero.” The hosts are saying that can get people into trouble because the law doesn’t work like a movie—force has to be justified.

Car

Dodge Avenger

The Dodge Avenger is a regular four-door car (a sedan). It’s meant for everyday driving like commuting and errands. It’s not primarily a performance car, but it’s a common type of vehicle people can reference in conversation.

Concept

jiu-jitsu

They bring up jiu-jitsu to make a point about training and restraint. Even if someone is very capable, the right approach is usually to avoid conflict and only act when there’s a real, immediate threat.

Concept

MMA fighter

They mention an MMA fighter to show that being trained doesn’t mean you should look for fights. The idea is to avoid trouble and only use force if you truly have to.

Concept

chokehold

A chokehold is a dangerous hold that can seriously injure someone. The hosts are using it to illustrate that you don’t act just because you can—you act when there’s an immediate, serious threat.

Concept

simulator training

A simulator is a practice setup that tries to feel like the real thing, but in a safer way. It helps you get used to stressful situations without firing real rounds.

Concept

VR training simulators

They’re describing training using virtual reality headsets. Instead of doing everything in real life, you can practice scenarios repeatedly in a simulated environment. The point is that it’s cheaper and easier to repeat, but some people don’t react realistically under stress yet.

Term

metaQuest

MetaQuest is a VR headset you wear to see and interact with virtual reality. The conversation is basically saying, “it’s not like the MetaQuest headset with certain apps/content.”

Car

Porsche 911

The Porsche 911 is a sports car made by Porsche. It’s known for being fast and fun to drive, and it has a very recognizable design. People mention it a lot because it’s one of the most famous performance cars.

Concept

72 hours or three full sleep cycles

They’re talking about a rule that delays when you have to give a statement. The idea is that after enough time and sleep, your memory and ability to respond may be more reliable.

Concept

time dilation

When people are under extreme danger, their brain can make time feel slower than it really is. That can make their later memory of what happened feel confusing or “off.”

Concept

auditory exclusion

In a scary situation, your brain may “tune out” sounds around you. So later, you might not remember hearing things that were actually there.

Concept

tunnel vision

Tunnel vision means your focus gets so intense on the danger that you miss other things happening around you. That can make your memory incomplete later.

Concept

retainer

A retainer is money you pay up front to hire a lawyer. It helps make sure the lawyer is available and starts working, and then they may charge extra for time as the case goes on.

Concept

legal protection plan

A legal protection plan is a service that helps pay for a lawyer in certain situations. Some plans just reimburse you later, while others directly pay a lawyer they’ve already checked.

Concept

10 round magazine ban

This is a law that limits how many bullets a magazine can hold—here, to 10 rounds. The hosts are saying a court case in Washington, DC ruled that kind of magazine limit was unconstitutional.

Concept

magazine ban update

They’re talking about keeping up with new laws about gun magazines. The idea is that an app can notify you when rules change so you don’t miss important updates.

Concept

lost wages

They’re saying the plan can help cover money you lose when you can’t work. So you’re not stuck without income while you handle the aftermath.

Concept

firearm confiscation and replacement

They’re talking about a plan that helps pay if your gun gets taken after a self-defense situation. Instead of you having to pay to replace it out of pocket, the benefit is supposed to cover that cost.

Term

New York

They’re talking about an event in New York. If you carry any kind of self-defense item, the rules there may be different than where you live.

Term

Kubotan

A Kubotan is a small self-defense stick you can carry easily. People use it to strike or apply pressure if they feel threatened.

Term

ninja stars

“Ninja stars” are small throwing blades used for self-defense or as a weapon. Laws about carrying them can vary a lot by location.

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David Lafontaine says, Hey fellas, I just want to say thank you for the great service

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biker store.

Yeah, we've carried this product for a long time, but we have some new options for you.

And that is the butt buffer.

The cover that's on the buffers we currently sale is referred to as the air flow cover.

That air flow cover is now available in sorted colors.

And in addition to that, we've always carried the pebble polymer, which is the upgraded version

of this is the insert.

So going from the covers to the inserts.

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Nubs on it gives you a little bit of added protection.

So you can now have your option between the classic, um, add the insert and the, uh, polymer

polymer pebble, Jesus.

And then you can go colors if you want to.

So check it out.

So, uh, when you go over to the law binding biker store, it's very clear.

There's two listings and, uh, now, and, uh, again, either of these inserts, you can get

any of the colored pads, the covers are the same.

The inserts are what's different.

And one is premium and it says premium and that's the pebble polymer and it says premium

pebble polymer.

That's the bees knees.

That's the one that's going to give you the most comfort and protection and all that.

And then there's just the, uh, classic, uh, which is the, it's a little bit dumbed down.

It's a little bit cheaper, but, um, and it's a great guys have been running them for years.

It's still going to give you, uh, a lot of a protection from getting sore and pressure

points and all that kind of stuff.

But yeah, yeah, the, uh, premium pebble polymer is what we sell the most of cause it's not

that much more and it is the premium insert, if you will.

It's the way to go, but there's an opportunity to save yourself a couple of bucks.

If you need to do that, we understand that.

What colors I think we got, we always sell black and then we've got red, blue and gray.

I already did it in my mind.

Red, blue and gray are your and black are your options, um, for your, uh, covers.

So yeah, there you go.

What else you got to promote here?

In addition to those two items, we have some oil filter sockets now in stock.

So these are the sockets that go around, uh, the oil filter to help you get that bad boy

off and we got three different versions.

Uh, at least one of them has a cut out.

If not more, but two of them do.

Yeah. Three different options from three different manufacturers and just helps get that, uh,

uh, oil filter off much easier than trying to use some of the other options out there.

If you guys aren't familiar with those work here in three different ones.

I'd say the reg specialties ones.

I like the best most the price point and it's just been around forever and it's got it

like for the older bikes, the twin cams.

It's got the cut out cause your sensor was right there with the wires and it was hard

and what these are is they're just a huge socket and you know, the end of your oil filter,

um, has the little, uh, flutes on it.

Um, like a 14 flute, I believe is what a Harley one is.

And so these basically go around all those flutes and then you can just put like a socket extension on it,

ratchet extension and instead of trying to use a filter, we have those two,

we have strap ones that work really good too in the store,

but these just make it for a Harley really, really simple, um, to, uh,

get those stock OEM or aftermarket with the flutes on it, um, off.

So yeah, those are available now.

They're set up for three eighths drive sockets.

Here you go. Nice. Nice.

So some new opportunities in the store and that's just naming three of a lot of different products.

Um, that we, uh, have added over time.

Alrighty, let's do this.

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A couple of things before our main topic.

Uh, we have Patriot member.

You guys have heard him before you've seen him in the videos, uh, in our documentary films and stuff.

Matt Haywood, uh, from our said Cali, uh, up here, uh, hanging with us on the mic.

But, uh, we're going to talk about, uh, riding while armed a little bit and firearms legal protection.

And, uh, he's the expert in all this.

And so, uh, he happened to travel up here and we appreciate he's going to hang out after this.

We're going to head to the store, uh, and, uh, law binding biker store and we're going to put his ass to work.

Yeah, we are.

Bring it.

Yeah, dude.

I'm going to show Oscar how it's really done.

Oh yeah.

We might just fire Oscar and hire you instead.

Uh, we love Oscar, but that's going to be our main topic.

We want to talk about, uh, a lot of new stuff coming out on the YouTube channel and all that guys.

And, uh, these are some of our newest, uh, free videos that we've popped.

What do you got?

We've got a 2024 plus Harley Davidson front wheel removal and installation tutorial.

Uh, in that we show you how to take your front wheel off and put it back on.

So no need to pay that extra dealer fees by having them do it.

Take your tire, front wheel off, take your tire down there and have them changed out.

It's a lot cheaper.

And in fact, we just did that last week on my bike, I had a slow leak on my front tire.

And, uh, so we, uh, we're just able to pop the wheel off and, uh, I just don't have a tire machine.

And so we were able to take it down to any local shop who has a tire machine and save a bunch of money.

They just popped the tire off, fixed it, put it back on, and then I was able to bring it back home.

And I will say I didn't put it on.

I'm a little bit gimpy right now with my, uh, rotator cuff surgery healing, but Lurch did for me.

Yeah.

And then I put it back on and I still used our video for a couple of things to reference.

Just to remember getting a hurry, right?

And take stuff off.

I'm like, which way does this space or go?

Cause I know there's lines on it and it goes, the lines point one way or the other.

And so it's just handy to have that content to go back to.

And we, we still use it.

We made it.

Yep.

Completely free.

The best way to find those guys is head over to the main, not the store website, but just the main lawbitingbiker.com website.

There's 13 years of searchable content on desktop, upper right hand corner.

There's a search bar.

You would, in this case, you would just type Harley front wheel and you would come up with, we've done three or four Harley front wheel removal videos.

Or if it was rear wheel, same, it's very, very searchable over there.

Uh, you could also, a lot of people don't know on YouTube, you can go to the lawbiting biker, uh, for your at Ryan Erlach or lawbitingbiker YouTube channel.

There's also a search bar there that a lot of guys don't know about and you can search the same stuff, um, right there.

But the website by far will have the article and the video embedded at the bottom.

Maybe a podcast.

Maybe a podcast on it.

Yeah, you'll get, uh, yeah, you'll get a bunch of results.

So use that over there guys, the website, um, uh, for your benefit.

What else you got?

We have, I rode my Harley 3,800 miles in these boots.

Here's what happened.

I'm in love.

And it's about the icon stormhawk boots.

And I wish that I was wearing a pair of those on that trip as well because my feet got a little wet.

Yes, yes, I was in my feet.

We're the only guy in the whole crew that was dry every day.

And we sell the hell out of those because they are just a good looking, solid, good price point.

Um, we have riders that do iron butts that love those things.

I mean, they are a tried and tested shoe boa lacing system.

Anyways, if you want to find some of those videos too, like product videos, that one's really easy icon stormhawk boot.

You can head over to the lawbiting biker store.

Same, use the search bar on mobile.

It's at the bottom desktop.

It's in the top, but you could search, find icon stormhawk, scroll to the bottom of those listings.

And there's a review overview video right there about those boots.

Guys, now we got, uh, these folks we want to thank because they are a result and we got one sitting here.

Patron member Matt Haywood sitting in here with us.

But these folks are the reason that we're still coming to you strong after 13 years.

Oh geez.

In the space, I will say Matt, would you like to, Hey, would you like to, uh, thank some of these newest patron members?

When you go back to right matter, left matter.

I know dude.

I specified Haywood.

Yeah, we'd like to thank Gordon Miller of Zinnia, Ohio.

Kevin Miller of, well, what do you know?

Canastoga, California.

Is it Canastoga or Canastota?

Canastota?

I don't know.

You're from California.

Yeah, I don't know where that one's at actually.

I'm going to have to look that up.

Going to ride with Kevin here.

Um, and then Mike Allen of Norwich, Connecticut.

Want to appreciate you guys coming on board with the LawBitingBiker family.

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All right.

Let's get into our main topic, guys, and I am going to, Heywood's going to be running a lot of this.

Matt Heywood and then Lurch is going to be, we've got some questions and things.

So where do we want to start here, Lurch?

You organize this.

Well, I just want to start with a little catch up with Matt and see what he's been up to.

Well, it's been about two years.

Oh, that's dumb anyways.

Tell us.

Yeah.

What's what's what's what's shaking?

What's happening?

It's been a little while since he's been on.

What's shaking bacon?

Actually, it's nice to be up here in Yakima with sunshine this time because last time I was up here.

I ended up getting stuck in the snow for three days.

And it was about this time of year.

It was right around this time.

It might even been just a little bit later.

And that was the last time we had snow at that time of year.

It happens occasionally, but not often.

I swear, like Houston and I, we still talk about how Yakima doesn't want us to leave.

I will see what happens on this trip.

Yeah.

So, I mean, other than that, just been, you know, hanging out really sad.

I missed last year's trip.

The soaring few trip.

Yeah.

Yeah, sir.

You didn't see him in the doc film in Canada.

Yeah.

He was a busy year.

Yeah.

Canada won't let him in.

Yeah.

He's been banned.

You can think, you can think.

You can think Lee for that one.

Well, I heard it had something to do with a bear.

I don't know what the truth was.

Well, some of the bear.

Yeah.

You guys trying to rape a bear or something.

I think, I think it actually had to do something with Lee in a shower in Death Valley.

But yeah.

Oh yeah.

Similar.

Yeah.

So just been riding or trying to ride anyway.

I haven't been able to start my bike for about eight months, but that's what happens when

you start working a lot and getting all, you know, resituated with life and, you know,

God has strange ways to bless you.

Yeah.

I'm, I'm very blessed right now.

I cannot complain.

I've, my life is completely turned around the last two years.

So I'm, I'm in a much better place and glad to hear it.

Much better friends.

And yeah.

Yeah, bro.

Glad to hear it.

And we're excited because you're going on this year's trip.

Yes, sir.

I am so stoked about this one.

Head into the East coast and 12 days, 18 states and we're going to be shooting a dock film

on it.

Of course.

And hey, you'll be there.

And then your other two boys down there are still in, right?

Yes, sir.

They're on the list.

So the California chapter of the Soaring Few Motorcycle Club will be with us and in

the stock film in this ride.

So that's exciting.

We're glad to have you again.

Yeah.

I'm so looking forward to this one.

I missed last year's trip and it just absolutely killed me.

But actually I'm kind of glad I didn't go because I didn't want to be drowning in water

with you guys.

Yeah.

But it was epic, man.

Just the scenery up there.

And stories.

And the stories, you know, that it brings, but yeah, I've missed a couple over the years.

It's been a while now that I'm retired, I don't miss them, but I missed a few.

And it is a bummer, especially when you, the dock film comes out and you're like, damn.

Even though you weren't there, you're like, I wish I was there.

Yeah.

It's going to be epic.

And you, Heywood, you're all in because we, if you guys didn't know where, just because

a lot of the guys are still full-time law enforcement or other careers and most of them

are law enforcement and they can only get so many days off from their employer.

And so to make this work 18 states in 12 days, we're on West coast, of course, Washington

state and Heywood here is from California.

And so we're all going to, what I'm getting at is Heywood bought a trailer and decked it

all out and we've got trailers here and we're going to trailer all the bikes over to the

Nashville, Tennessee area.

That's going to be, some guys are flying in, most guys are flying.

Some are driving the trucks and trailers and then we're, our base is going to be out surrounding

Nashville, Tennessee area.

And then we'll ride the 18 states back to Nashville trailer, the bikes back to Washington

state.

And we're still going to do like 5,000 miles over there or something close to 5,000 miles.

So we are riding, but anyways, you got hooked up with the whole trailer and you went just

fucking balls deep and setting this thing up.

Tax write off.

Yeah.

It's basically free.

Yeah.

It's just free.

That's what, yeah, everybody tells me that, you know, you're a business owner right off.

You're like, yeah, it's not really a tit for tat on that.

It's a very small break.

But yeah.

I can, I can store my targets and my target stands and haul my ammo in it.

So it's a tag.

You got to get something.

Yes.

We always just tease though.

Some guys that you own a business.

So you know, you'll get a lot of people that don't own businesses that go, oh, it's just

all a write off.

Anyways, dude, that is not, yeah, it doesn't make anything free.

It's a very small break in a tax write off.

And yes, we do need the break because we pay a fuckload of taxes as business owners.

But you know what I'm talking about?

Always people are like, you're getting rich or you're just writing it all off.

Oh yeah.

I'm just getting rich.

If you can get rich doing that, you just write everything off.

You know, there's a Seinfeld thing on that.

It's funny.

What is it?

What is a writer?

You don't even know what a write off is Jerry.

I don't know.

But they're writing it off.

Yeah.

But they know cause they're the ones writing it off.

Yeah.

So the trailer, we completely gutted the inside and redid it all up.

It's all nice and pretty in there.

It's about 99% done.

Yeah.

No, I take about 95% missing a couple of things that we're still maybe under embargo on and

then waiting for my lab sticker to go on the side.

Yeah, buddy.

You're going to do that?

Well, I mean, if you're going to pay for it.

Oh, okay.

Oh, is that the deal?

I will fully wrap that.

My trailer doesn't even have.

I got to get, see that trailer after I need to do that too.

We can fix that.

We'll see if I have time before we go.

I got sidetracked.

What'd you do?

He wants to put lab stickers on it.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

But I say, and we haven't even, we need to design my trailer too, and we could do the

same thing.

We'll see if we get that done before July.

We're a little bit, but we'll see because yeah, my trailer is just sitting out there.

We're taking mine and I'm not wrapped.

Oh, that's right.

We're taking yours.

We're not even taking mine.

Yeah.

We need the extra space.

I ended up with a 28 foot trailer because we needed the size.

It's a little large.

It's hard to get in and out of places, but it's nice to have six bikes in there.

I think technically we're going to have seven.

We'll have a seventh in the back of Leeds truck.

Yeah.

What have you done to that trailer?

Oh, God.

So, uh, so you did solar.

It's got its own, uh, basically the, what is it, the blue eddy jet, the battery power

generator in there.

So full LED lights inside out, uh, full, the outside we did a, what do you mean by LED

lights?

Like just can lights?

Interior lighting?

So I like strips.

Yeah.

So I did strip lighting inside.

I did, uh, there's six LED spotlights on the outside so we can fire those up and we'll

have a 360 campsite, basically, um, and yeah, I did some helmet racks in there.

It's got battery power for, uh, the battery tender for all four bikes that are going to

go in there.

I actually have room to put about five in there if I wanted to, uh, what, what length

does it?

It's a 24 footer.

Okay.

So yeah, mine's 20, 21.

Okay.

So just a little bit 20.

Yeah.

So did that.

It's got helmet holders.

I got power plugs for everybody's, uh, you know, Carto or sent a headsets if they want

to put in there.

And yeah.

So we, I built it.

Damn dude.

Oh yeah.

Why don't you come do mine?

Well, I, you know, I'm here.

I put chocks in it and e-track.

It's a good start.

Yeah.

I just, no, that's, that would be badass, but I'm like, yeah, I just, I don't have time.

I, I literally, I bought mine, put some chocks in it and we hauled it last time we used it

two years ago.

Um, and I didn't have done shit to it since I use it for storage around my house and moving

my truck back and forth to the west side occasionally.

But, um, I got inspired by you getting this 20 footer and all the e-track you put in there.

So yeah.

Now seeing what he's done, I might, I don't know, I may have to figure out how to do mine.

I got a question.

How do you, how'd you do the, the battery power?

Do you say it's a generator?

Did you put batteries on the tone?

You sent the link to me.

Yeah.

I sent the link to you.

But I don't know for sure.

Yeah.

So it's kind of, just the battery backups, like the big battery backups, right?

So, um, I put that in there.

It's got a short power plug.

So I can plug it into the house, but I also have solar panels on top of it.

So 200 bucks a solar.

So it'll charge while we're rolling down the road too.

Nice.

Um, so that'll keep.

So it doesn't charge that battery bank and the trailer doesn't charge off your car

battery?

No.

No, it's all independent.

Okay.

There's a couple of different ways.

So the only way to charge it is you have to solar it.

So it's got solar or like I said, I got short power.

Got you.

That's a good idea.

But I mean, the battery pack itself is like 65 pounds.

So I could take it right outside of the trailer and go plug it in the house and power up

my fridge or whatever else I need to, in case I have a power out did so.

How long does that last?

Uh, on a fridge or something.

They say it's like four or five days.

Yeah.

No, you sent me the link to it.

I was a curious.

Yeah.

I got a pretty good deal on it.

It's not on sale anymore.

Sorry.

No, that's all right.

That's all right.

Yeah.

I'm sure we could call them and get a free one and do a video on it if I wanted.

But we'll see.

The power you holding.

No, no, no.

I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I put short power on mine just so I could plug in tenders and whatnot when it's parked

at the house, but that would be nice to have the solar set up and charge wherever you're

at.

Yeah.

So I put two bikes in it, um, just on the solar, uh, put the battery tender on there

and let it sit for about four or five days and it only drained about 8% of that battery

pack.

So.

Yeah.

Nice.

I like it.

Yeah.

And they just, yeah.

Did you, when on the plugs, like your plug and shit in there, did you like, do you put

wall plugs like a house?

How does that work?

I don't know.

I'm not, I've never decked out a trailer.

The battery pack itself has a couple of different outputs, right?

Oh, I see.

It's got your 120s.

It's actually got a 220 or 240 volt output.

Oh, really?

Um, it's got, you know, the USBs and all that type of stuff.

So yeah, it just plug it in and rock and roll.

Yeah.

That's quite the setup.

LED lighting, everything dude.

It's like a fucking club in there, dude.

So you get a fucking stripper pole in there and starting just flashing.

Dude, I could see mine just flashing the lights and a stripper pole dude to be badass.

Did you see the video?

No.

Oh, God.

I, maybe I sent, no, I put it on the, on the lab Facebook page, you know, as I've off

the request of Lee, uh, he wanted me to put some disco and fancy lights in there and and

a pole and, uh, I missed all that.

Yeah.

So we're still trying.

Lee thinks like me.

Yeah.

We're still trying to source a good pole.

Um, not sure about the height requirements of the dancers that we're going to put in

there.

Yeah.

Well, we can find some shorter stature.

That's right.

Yep.

They're all around Sturgis.

But you put lights like floodlights on the outside too.

Yeah.

Are they, are those flush with the trailer or do they stick out?

So no, they're, they're not flush inset, but they're just mounted on the side.

It gives you about, I think the angle about 40 degrees off the side, but it gives you

a good 30 feet off the, off the side of the camp or off the side of the trailer on all

angles.

So does that run off the battery thing backup you have?

Yeah.

So you don't have to have a hook to the truck at all.

Yeah.

No, all the, all the electrical in that is completely separate of the truck.

Wow.

That's badass, dude.

Yeah.

Quite a setup.

You make us look like crap, dude.

I bought a trailer and put some trucks at E-Track.

It's set up good for that, but, but to have the lights on inside, you got to have a,

you know, running your vehicle, running and all that, but, uh, yeah, maybe it'll give

us something to do.

Lurch.

I do have a, just a Honda generator that I could plug into the trailer.

Oh.

Like I said, I do have a short plug power.

Do I have one?

No.

We can put one on yours.

It's really easy.

Does that just hook up to the trailer thing?

It is.

So the one I have and maybe similar to yours, uh, you just drill a hole through the side

of the trailer and then you mount, um, a plug.

Yeah.

It'd be a male plug, technically.

Right, right, right.

You plug into that and then on the inside you have a couple of, um, plugs in there.

So it's just.

Where did those go though?

It's basically, it's just.

Where do you hook the other end?

Cause you got to tie into the.

Then you plug.

The electrical system.

No, this is completely separate from the trailer.

This is just to get one 10 into your trailer.

Right.

But you got to, that plug has to, you have to hook that to the, so.

You'd have, you'd have to use an extension cord and run to your house somewhere and

plug it in.

Right, right.

Yeah.

But on the inside of the trailer you're talking about.

Yes.

It's got two plugs in there.

Yeah.

So the inside of the trailer, it's got a little pigtail.

It has a female in it.

Thank you.

Any, any type of your electrical power in there.

Right.

So like for mine.

I'm tracking.

Thank you.

So mine, the battery pack itself is plugged into that and then all my electrical accessories

are plugged into the battery pack itself.

Gotcha.

So the other side of that shore power plug has a regular plug.

Yes.

Gotcha.

That's what I was getting at.

Okay.

So that you can have power in there.

Yeah.

I mean, we need to do that, dude.

Yeah.

It's there.

That's handy, you know.

Anywhere from 30 to 50 bucks, depending on what you get.

Yeah.

Especially if you're going to do the battery pack like you did.

So you can keep it charging.

Yeah.

And the only reason.

Off shore power.

Yeah.

The only reason I did that is when, you know, we all know that some of us like to forget

to put our bikes in tow haul mode.

Yeah.

Weird.

Right.

So in case you have that lack of or lapse of judgment, right, I can have all those bikes

on a battery tent or not have to worry about it.

So.

Yeah.

That is nice.

While you're cruising down the road, that battery thing, I'm going to have to look at

that again.

Just, yeah.

So it might be the answer.

All right.

Anyways, enough trailer.

Oh, you're showing me.

Oh, yeah.

Look at that.

Dude, I got to do that.

Yeah.

Pretty easy.

For sure.

That's just an easy, yeah, no brainer.

It's great.

Especially if you have bikes.

Let's say, well, we're going to get to a point where we don't have room for bikes anymore

in your garage.

Right.

And you got to store them in the trailer.

Then you could put them in and keep them tender.

And keep them tender.

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

We're doing that, dude.

Keep that so I can order one.

Okay.

Yeah.

And then I got to look at that battery thing, too.

That's pretty cool.

I do like that.

It seems like overkill for me, but it just cool.

To you.

No, because that's what guys do.

It's just like motorcycle.

It seems like overkill because I'm like, number one, I don't load bikes at night, really.

Number two, I haven't had any problem towing bikes with it.

The charging is cool, though.

I like that.

I'm not saying I'm not going to do it, and I'm probably going to do LED lighting, too.

I'm just saying it's totally overkill because like your trailer, Matt bought the 28 foot

trailer.

We've used it once.

Yeah.

We've used it once and it just said, but we own it.

And I bought the 20 foot and I own it and we own the smaller one, too.

The little lab trailer.

What's that?

A 12 foot or something?

Yeah.

It's like a six by 12.

Six by 12.

That's good for one bike.

Good for one touring bike.

I use it for dirt biking, mostly because you can get it in and out of mountain places

and you can get two dirt bikes, three dirt bikes in there.

But I like it, dude.

You've inspired me to maybe up my fucking trailer game because now I feel like my wiener's

too small.

You outweanered me on this one, dude.

He's got the shortest trailer here.

That's true.

I got a big, big one.

It depends what mood I'm in.

And a short one.

It depends how excited I am.

Yeah.

I was going to say, I'm still kind of right in the middle between y'all.

Yeah, right.

Matt's just laying his meat out on the table with this 2080.

Just lays it out on the table and just lets you take a look like a 28 footer, baby.

I would have got a 24, but we couldn't get six bikes in there.

So I stepped up.

You could get six bikes in there.

Come on.

Take the saddlebags off, stagger them up a little bit.

Yeah, me if you got creative.

I didn't want to get creative.

And then you got to do something with all the saddlebags and shit there too and not scratch

them.

And that becomes, we were fucking packed when we went to East Coast last time.

I mean, it was bags, helmets, backpacks.

I remember.

It was tight.

And it didn't cost much more, believe it or not, than the 24 foot.

Yeah.

The difference like when I bought my trailer, I think the difference between a 20 foot and

a 24 foot was only like 400 something dollars.

Yeah.

It's not huge.

Yeah.

Well, cool.

I can't wait to see it in person.

You've inspired us.

All right.

So moving on.

Oh, should we talk about it?

Yeah.

Why don't you start?

Literally, you guys just go at it because I don't know a lot about this at all.

So I'll jump in where I need to.

We did a podcast in the past about riding well armed.

So I just want to start off with a little bit of that because it makes sense of what

we're going to talk about.

Lurch is the host now.

He's switching to the host.

This will be great.

So, but anyways, Matt has a background of firearms.

Yes.

Okay.

He does.

This is going well so far.

I'll need you to talk a little bit more though, if you would.

He's trying to be the host so now you got to encourage him to, and it's called an act

of discussion.

Well, aren't you as the host supposed to guide the conversation?

Yeah.

I'm trying to.

And that's why I said we're going to talk about carrying well armed and you have firearms

back.

He did ask a legit question and you just, you gave the yes answer, the guess that just

says yes or no.

So let me ask you a different question.

Tell me about your background of firearms.

Nicely played.

Oh, sorry, Ryan, just before I answer your question, Matt, you know, our, our background,

right?

We go into court and we were always told to answer yes or no.

So that was the reason we got that response.

Okay.

You only did that.

You only did that when he asked that when I talked to you, you just give full blown

answers.

Yeah.

You know.

Well, so let me go even farther back.

So those that have not listened to a podcast with Matt Haywood on there, he is a retired

law enforcement officer with a history in firearms and is working in the firearms space

right now, but give us all just a little taste of your background and how you came to do

what you're doing right now.

Yeah.

Before he answered, I totally cocked luck either, but seriously, this is funny.

It's just coming in.

It's a text from Javan.

So for the audience, Javan picked up the 2016 little writer S today.

He swapped out his Kawasaki for that and he's borrowing it and.

We have a low writer S here to some guys are new.

We have a 2016 dino low writer S that's in the shop here, law binding biker shop.

And we had it for a long time.

We did videos, projects on it anyways.

It's a loner and we just give it to a lot of people and it's a fucking ripper anyways.

So he brought over his third V star.

Yeah.

And traded it out and I saw the text and you're seeing it now.

So Javan is our assistant store manager.

He's been with us a little over three weeks, just giving the audience a background.

And one of the benefits of law binding biker media, we have a lot of non-traditional benefits

like you can drink beer on duty.

You get free bikes to ride around.

I buy a lot of lunches.

We do a lot of fun things.

We get ride days here and there.

But one of them is you can have this bike and and have it for a while.

And actually he's in the market.

He's had Harleys before, but he currently has the Yamaha and he rides the hell out of that.

He rides days off.

He rides to work every day.

He rides that thing.

Anyways, this morning before the podcast, how this worked out is he came over finally.

I said, take the Dino Little Redress, the 16 Dino Little Redress for a while.

Give her a rip.

She's a lot of shit.

She's fast.

Well, that got that 110 screaming eagle in it and just leave your Yamaha here for a while

and just have some fun with it.

So he came over just prior to this and his Yamaha's in the shop.

Now he fired up the 2016 Dino Little Rider S.

That was about 45 minutes ago.

He rode back to the store on it.

So he's down at the store, wore out at the studio and this text just came in from him

because he actually might buy it from us if he really likes it.

It's been for sale for a while, but I wasn't in a hurry to sell it and a bunch of low ballers

on Facebook Marketplace.

I just laughed off because I don't need to sell it, but certainly it'd be cool to have him.

So can I read it all?

I haven't read all of it.

Is it appropriate?

All of it?

Yes, you can.

Okay.

So because I didn't make sure there's no personal stuff.

So WELP, this is from Jevon.

WELP got to tell Katie.

That's his spouse.

We need this side chick, LOL.

She rips, took me a second to get used to the lighter weight and not having floorboards,

but she's a great ride.

That's for sure.

Exclamation point.

We all said when he left, what did we say?

We said, as soon as he hits the end of the driveway, he was going to want that thing.

How could you not?

It just, you want to talk about giving you some extra length in your meat right there.

You get on that thing.

You, you gain at least six inches right away.

Well, again, I mean, the smile on his face when he fired that thing up, I mean, it was, it was classic.

I don't think I've seen a brighter smile in a long time.

It's true.

We've got it on video.

I'm going to put a short on Instagram, but yeah, and there's nothing wrong.

We support all bikes here and everybody knows that about us.

You get what you love, what you can afford.

As long as your knees and the breeze, I don't care if that's metric.

I don't care if it's adventure.

I don't care if it's street.

I have other bikes besides Harley Davidson.

That's just what I choose to ride for long distance touring for sure.

So there's nothing wrong with the Yamaha, but there is a stark difference going from

that motor and that bike and the way it feels and sounds to jumping on a fucking,

you know, stage one Screamin Eagle 110, low rider S light 600 plus pound bike with a 110 in it.

And I told him, I said, dude, I do it because it's fun.

But I said, be careful because that bike has enough balls to pull out from a stop sign.

And if you lean it to turn, like take a left and you reef on it, you'll walk the back end

right around on it.

It's fun, but you got to know that it can do that and be ready for it because you will

high side really quick.

Like, so I think he realized when he started, like, oh, fuck.

And you know, when he took off in first gear, he's like, Jesus, that thing.

Anyways, he was pretty hesitant going down the road right here, though.

He was getting used to it.

That's going to take a little while.

Plus he's got the T bars and no floorboards and forward controls.

And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, find them.

Yeah, find everything.

Find where it is.

But anyways, I thought that was fun to bring up on a motorcycle podcast.

So back to what you were talking about.

So I'll ask for the fourth time.

Tell us a little bit about your background in firearms.

Yeah.

So when I retired from law enforcement, I had a couple of back surgeries and then

started working at a local retail gun store there in the center valley in

California, kind of figured out that selling guns wasn't really my forte.

So I got into teaching firearms again, opened up my own training business,

which led me down to rabbit hole, not just the firearms instruction part,

but I'm also a home base firearms dealer, one of the very few in California kind

of, you know, sell guns and ammo out of my house.

What's that legal?

And dude, you've probably got federal warrants for your rest here in

California, gruesome down there.

Grusom's probably got got a fucking warrant for you.

Well, it's funny.

You've seen the neighbors.

Governor Grusom, his wife got a new nickname.

She came out talking about something and yeah, they got a nuisance.

Yeah, it's funny seeing the neighbors faces look when the FedEx freight

truck comes out and just starts dumping pallets of ammo.

Oh, dude, are they just over there shaking, just sweating?

Well, I mean, you know, it's one of those things where everybody knows

where to come if the shit hits the fan.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You get to pick and choose who you're going to protect.

No, not you. You're an asshole. Yep. You're good. Get in. Yeah.

So you got your federal firearms license, but you're allowed to sell out of your

residence. Is that when you say that's rare in California, which I would believe that.

I believe that.

I mean, there's actually a lot of home base dealers like have their federal

firearms licenses in California, but they don't do retail sales like I do.

Okay. Okay. Interesting.

So got into that and that kind of led me down another rabbit hole of getting into

like the Second Amendment advocacy work.

So I work pretty closely with the big names in the organizations like

firearms policy coalition, gun owners, America, California Rifle Pistol Association,

where we're filing lawsuits against every single person.

You know, there's nine specific lawsuits that I've been involved in against Newskim.

Really? Oh, yeah. So, yeah, that's weird.

So, yeah, you know, just what kind of lawsuits back slow down there?

Oh, no, just, you know, generally speaking, just a broad overview of those

kind of lawsuits, like they're trying to infringe on Second Amendment rights as

those kind of lawsuits.

Yeah. So like our, what we call a neutered magazine ban, right?

So magazines over 10 rounds, we can't have, you know, we have to go through

background checks for ammunition every time you want to purchase ammunition.

We have to go back. Are you serious?

Oh, yeah. It's $5 every time you want to buy a box of ammo.

It's, are you fucking kidding?

That's insane.

Dude, well, the sad thing is, yeah.

I mean, we're not too far behind you.

We're still, it's weird.

Washington state's weird because, because they're, they're restricting a lot of

that stuff, but it's still a complete open carry state.

And so you don't even need to conceal weapons as long as you just, you can

walk down the street, which is, I'm all for it.

With a 10 rounder?

Yeah. With a 10 rounder, I guess I don't follow all this stuff very close

because, uh, you know, being in law enforcement, I only retired in July.

You know, you can just carry whatever you want, wherever you want, whenever.

So I, and I told you, I don't follow.

Like people told me there was a ban on things going on.

I don't, I don't know.

So I need to, I guess now.

You do now.

Yeah. Luckily I am, uh, I got the, you know, I can care, I can still carry

in any state I want.

I have a retired license, but yeah.

But still, yeah, I don't, I haven't bought stuff.

I've still, all my magazines are all the big ones.

I can still have those.

Yeah.

Okay. You just can't buy them.

Can't buy them anymore.

Okay.

Yeah.

I wasn't going to give them back anyways, but I just, I just wanted to ask, okay.

I didn't mean to sidetrack, but I, it's an interesting conversation.

Oh, absolutely.

You're good.

I mean, they, they always say, you know, what happens in California

starts spreading out, right?

So, you know, we have, we have all these restrictions in California

and now Washington's starting to follow right, right behind us.

You know, my friend Bill Kirk over in Washington gun law,

you know, he's been, him and I keep in touch on a lot of the legislation

and lawsuits and stuff going back and forth.

And now you have Oregon kind of jumping on board too.

Um, but yeah.

So, by the way, the, one of the next things that might be coming up in Washington

for you guys is the same thing that we have in California,

which is 11% excise tax.

I mean, we have to pay an extra 11% on all firearms and ammunition purchases

on top of sales tax and the pricing anyway.

That's dude.

And that just all gets passed on to the customer.

That's bullshit.

You know, it's just, yeah.

And I think they think they can buy through legislation and taxes,

get people to not want to purchase firearms or ammo.

They're, they're still going to do it.

Right.

That's the point, right?

And where the hell's all the money going?

Right.

Yeah.

That's the point.

I mean, doge for that.

Yes.

Yeah.

Two years ago, California made that change the concealed weapons training requirements.

It went from a four hour renewal and eight hour initial and they doubled that time.

Right.

So again, it, does that affect the state?

No, it's just an extra way to price somebody out of actually exercising the right.

So, um, but yeah.

So like I said, we, you know, getting in that advocacy world, uh, you know,

just having a big voice out there, um, you know, just trying to get our rights back

is what I've been really focusing on last couple of years.

And that led me to another, uh, rabbit hole and

Can I back up just real quick for you to a rabbit hole?

Uh, so who pays for all these lawsuits?

Is this fundraising and stuff?

Because these attorneys are fucking expensive.

Yeah.

So these are all grassroots organizations.

So it's based off of, uh, memberships or monthly donations or anything like that.

That's what funds these lawsuits.

And you know, a lot of people think, Oh, I want to join on board with one of these

lawsuits, right?

I'm going to get paid.

That's not how this works.

Like the money that if we win one of these lawsuits and we get a settlement,

it goes all the way back to the organization to pay for those attorneys and then back into

the funds so we could actually fight more laws that are already coming.

Wow.

So it's been, uh, difficult with clamping down over the years in California.

Yeah.

Well, it's, yeah, we'll just put, we'll leave it at that.

Yeah.

Dang.

All right.

Now go down your rabbit hole.

Um,

Scurry down your rabbit hole.

Scurry on them.

Get in there.

So, you know, being in the advocacy world and then, uh, you know, kind of led me,

like, like you'd said, Ryan, you know, you'd retired and they just basically gave you a

retired ID card and said, Hey, come back and see us and you can carry wherever you want.

So once a year, I just have to call once a year and it's like a no brainer qualification,

but just the bare minimum, you know, it's coming up.

It is coming up in May.

We got to do that.

Lurch does it too.

Yeah.

If you guys didn't know, uh, retired law enforcement, is that it's, yeah, that's nationwide.

Yeah.

Um, I forget what that house bill.

Leosa.

It started out of HR 218.

There you go.

So you would know, he even memorized it.

Yeah.

Leosa.

So basically that once you retire honorably, uh, from law enforcement, um, the different

departments set up a qualification.

So if you go qual once a year with a certified department and instructor,

then you get to keep a commission card.

Basically it's a limited commission card.

It's not an arrest.

I don't even know if it's a commission card.

It's a card that allows you to carry, uh, without a concealed weapons permit.

That is your permit and you can carry throughout all the states.

There's no, you don't have to worry about reciprocal agreements and all that bullshit.

Yeah.

It's called the law enforcement officers safety act.

Thank you.

I always forget what that stands for.

Thank you.

Yeah.

The other thing about that too is a lot of officers, when they retire, they think

they have to go back to their original department they retired from.

It's not the case.

You just have to qualify every 12 months and carry a proof of certification that you did

so in 12 months.

And your locus stays active.

There you go.

Yeah.

And certain groups like, uh, um, who's the guild, uh, the, uh, Yakama County.

No, but there's a bigger one that we used to belong to.

I'm having a brain.

Oh, oh, uh, FOP.

Yeah.

Film or police, they put on shoots to bring out.

So you don't necessarily like Matt said, you don't have to go through your retired department.

There's other options out there.

Yeah.

And in fact, Lurch here retired from a different department than he qualified.

He comes to my department because it's really convenient.

We can talk about it now.

We're retired.

Exactly.

We can talk about it all.

Yeah.

I retired from the Washington state patrol and Yakama police was having a shoot and Ryan

got me into it.

Their chief said, yeah, bring them on down.

Yeah.

So yeah, just coming up at me.

Well, if we're going to have a sworn few, uh, range day, I can certify all of you guys.

Yeah.

That'd be fun too.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

I think even the range here in, uh, it's called the range here in town has a certified

instructor that can do it too.

Oh, interesting.

I believe.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Good information.

Yeah.

So you don't have to necessarily be an active law enforcement trainer.

You just have to be certified.

Is that correct?

Who does, who certifies you?

So you just have to have some type of law enforcement certification, right?

So either NRA law enforcement or any of your, you know, your state post, right?

So your peace officer standards and training instructors.

Oh, gotcha.

Um, yeah.

And actually some departments actually accept just a basic pistol instructor somewhere,

right?

So if you live in an area that you have no access to a law enforcement instructor,

they'll actually let you just go to like an NRA basic pistol instructor.

Can I do it?

I was a nine years.

I was a firearms instructor.

Yeah.

So I could qualify people.

Your, your post certificate is lifelong.

So you are always a certified firearms instructor and you could do those qualifications too.

So I could call us.

You're, you still technically have your peace officer certification, right?

You just can't.

It hasn't been revoked.

You can't qualify yourself.

Okay.

Gotcha.

You are a firearms instructor too.

So you could qualify me and I could qualify you.

Yeah.

Why, why, why don't we just do that?

Dude, we may be doing this.

We'll have to figure out how to do this.

Thanks.

That's good information.

I forget about all that because he was firearms instructor.

So was I for nine years, only the last four years of my career.

I wasn't.

Interesting.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I mean, there's, man, we could have a whole another conversation about retired law

enforcement, how leos act and how departments are going outside the scope of leos act,

which is really handcuffing their officers.

But that's, oh, really?

That's another topic.

They're not, they're not just brief me on that.

Just brief.

So a lot of agencies are putting, giving you an actual ID card that has an expiration date on it.

Right.

Your retirement never expires.

Correct.

But if you carry that retired ID card that has an expiration date on it,

you are no longer considered able to carry a gun.

Right.

Even though your retirement stayed valid.

And even if you have extra certificates saying that, hey, I did qualify last year.

And then the other part of it too is some departments are wanting to put the actual

firearm information on your, your leosa card.

That handcuffs you because all leosa actually asked you to do is,

did you qualify with a handgun or revolver or shotgun or rifle?

And if they put a specific firearm on there, like for me, when we go to,

when we, when we go back East later this year,

I should be able to carry whatever gun I want.

But they're only telling me because of the way they have my ID card.

It actually has two guns on there.

I can only carry those two guns and travel across the country.

I remember this discussion when we qualified last year.

Okay.

With YPD that, yeah.

They're not currently collecting that information, but there are agencies that are.

Interesting is they, so thinking of qualification.

I'm good.

They give us a actual, that's the nice thing about doing it with the Yakima police.

The department I retired from is they actually give us a car.

And they, as proof, as proof, like what would you do if I qualified?

You, I don't have access to do cards and everything.

I think it's more official.

Plus we have fun.

Plus they set it all up.

Plus it's their targets and paper.

All we have to do is show up and shoot.

So it's way easier.

It's way easier.

One thing that screws me is mine doesn't save retired and good standing, which is stupid.

Well, it also doesn't have.

Is it supposed to?

It doesn't even have anything on there in regards to HR 218 or Leosa.

So you have to have a separate qualification card with you.

Which I'll get from Yakima.

Yeah.

I just haven't done it yet.

Oh, you, that's what you're still need to do.

Yeah.

Oh, I thought you did that.

Jesus Christ.

I knew we had a shoot coming up.

I've got the paperwork and everything.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm ready to go.

Okay.

Good.

Yeah.

Cause mine says like retired and has a Yakima police thing and all that.

Retired or retired did?

In both.

Mine just says retired for service.

But it doesn't say in good standing.

But it doesn't have an expiration either.

Just has an issue date.

Okay.

Well, good.

Okay.

Yeah.

So.

Good info.

Yeah.

I mean, like I said, that's what I'm here for, right?

Yeah.

You know, I dedicate a lot of my time with this.

And but yeah.

So going after, you know, with the farms instruction and all that kind of stuff.

When I retired, they basically said, Hey, get out.

Here's your ID card.

Come back and see us in a year to qualify this and that.

And kind of left me out in the hole.

I don't have union protections anymore.

I'm not a member of poor act, which is very similar to like FOP, fraternal or police.

And when I, when I walked out, they didn't give me any training.

They didn't give me any information about how to carry a gun off duty, right?

Or as a retired person, because basically I just fall under the same laws as a civilian now.

And I've learned so much more about the self-defense industry, the laws, how to carry,

what not to carry, what to do, where not it goes on and on.

Since I've been retired, because I've kind of dedicated myself to this.

And then we go back into it and you look at it.

And what type of protections do I have if I ever were to have to get involved in the situation?

So that kind of led me down to a couple of other companies and landed me with

firearms legal protection, where I tell you what, this, this company has been a godsend for me.

And it's just, it's one of the best companies I've ever worked for.

They just really go out and go out of their way to take care of their members.

And that's why I invited lab to come on board with us too.

So nice pause and take a look at my card.

I just pull out of my wallet and see what you think about that.

That's your retired card.

That's just your carry.

Well, it does qualify eight till 26.

Why does it say Chester?

Oh, is that, is that that wrong card?

Is that my porn hub card?

Did you get a separate retirement card?

I can't remember.

You must, because I think that's, I think that's your actually.

Oh, I did, because I got a retirement badge and a card in my badge case, but I don't really carry it.

Yeah.

I just carry that.

Same thing with this, right?

So you're, this is the type of card that I'm talking about.

Okay.

Thank you.

It says qualified until August of 2026.

So this retired ID card actually expires.

Correct.

If you don't get a new card, even though you're still technically retired, you have no proof.

Right.

But we qualify every year.

So I'm going to qualify in May and I just, they give me a new one.

They're going to give you a new one.

But if you didn't get a new one, right, you wouldn't be able to carry.

Right.

Under Leosa, you can't carry unless you qualify once a year.

So I don't understand what, sorry.

Maybe I'm missing the point, but you qualify every year, get a new card, new expression,

just like renewing your license.

But some officers, they don't go back every year to qualify, right?

Well, then they're out of, they're out of Leosa policy.

If they do though, and they don't get a replacement ID card that has one that's retired.

So Leosa requires you to have a valid photo identification card.

Right.

Valid.

So after August, this card is no longer valid.

So you would not be able to carry unless you got a new card that

didn't have an expiration date or an updated one.

But if it doesn't have an expiration date, how do they know that you're qualified each year?

It's not up to the department.

It's up to you as the Leosa officer, the retired officer, to show that you qualified

with the last 12 months.

So if you just have a copy of your certificate, you take a picture of your certificate that

you qualified with on your phone, that qualifies as long as you have a valid retired ID card.

Make sure I'm not missing the point.

This is fine because we just qualify each year and you just get a new card.

Yeah.

As long as you have proof of your qualification.

Well, that is proof of it.

That's the card they issue.

Look on the front.

It says expiration qualified.

Yeah.

Do it until eight...

There's nothing on this that has to do with your Leosa.

This is just your retired LE card.

This has nothing to do with your...

No, it doesn't.

That's the qual one.

It says qualified.

It's got the Leosa stuff on the back.

That's the Leosa.

That's qualified.

He must have another one like this.

That's not my retirement.

That's, I have another retirement card with a retirement badge.

That is my Leosa card that they give.

It says qualified.

But there's nowhere on here on this card.

As federal law enforcement officer safety act, right?

Qualification aspires.

But where's your retired ID card?

Right, he's got it.

I've got an ever card for that.

So when I go qualify, I haven't got one yet just because I didn't...

My card, my retirement card does not say that I retired in good standing.

And so I have a letter from the chief that I can provide to Yakima police.

They're going to give me one of these.

It's a complete lie.

He did not retire in good standing.

They're going to give me one of these.

I'll have the two.

I'll have my retirement card and then I'll have my Leosa.

So I'm supposed to carry my retirement card with this.

I guess I better get that out.

All that to say, yeah, you should grab your retirement card, but with this.

But this is legit.

Okay, because Yakima police, the guy that does it,

he knows what he's doing.

So I just want to make sure...

I'm mistaken.

I thought this was your retired ID card.

So this would be your Leosa card saying that you qualified with the Yakima police department.

And you're good to go until August of 2026.

So when I talk about this, some departments like mine,

they incorporate your retired ID card with your Leosa card.

So I only get issued one.

So because of this, my retired ID card actually expires.

Basically, according to this card, my retirement expires at the end of this year.

Yeah, that makes sense.

They need to change that, right?

That's what we're working on.

Okay, you're working on it.

Gotcha.

It'd be easier for them to do it once.

And all right.

Good. Thank you.

They're going above and beyond with making you a card.

They just...

You just need to have proof that you qualified.

Right.

I could just have a certificate along with my retirement card.

They're just going above and beyond.

That's probably the easiest way to do it,

but they chose to go this route.

Yeah, nice.

Get my card back here, motherfuckers.

You gotta try to pocket that shit.

Slide my pocket.

Yeah.

All right.

Move it on to the company you're working with.

Let's move into that.

Yeah.

So a lot of people, they get into...

I mean, if we get away from the Leosa part of it

and go into civilian concealed carry.

A lot of people, when they look at getting their concealed carry

permit, or God bless you all that live in constitutional carry

states, did you all have to go through all this legislative

bullcrap to be able to carry a gun?

One thing that most people don't realize is...

Constitutional carry is like here, open carry.

No, you don't have to have a permit or anything.

You don't have to have that here.

Yeah.

So I mean, you're good.

Concealed carry?

No.

That's what I'm saying.

That's why I'm...

We're an open carry state.

You need a concealed...

So you can carry without any license whatsoever,

a pistol as long as you just put it right on your hip

so everybody can see it.

And you can walk right down fucking Seattle.

Like John Wayne.

Yep.

Like John Wayne.

And yeah.

So I mean, when we talk about...

You know, there's like...

You live in Arizona or Texas or somewhere.

You can literally just move into the state.

You can go buy a gun and you can just start carrying a gun.

Concealed or...

Okay.

Thank you.

No problem.

That's constitutional carry.

I don't know all the terms.

Okay.

And then you have states that are permitless carry states.

So there's a difference, right?

Constitutional carry states.

You can go to...

No matter where you live, as long as you're a U.S. citizen,

you can openly or concealed carry in those constitutional carry states.

Give me a few states.

So I mean, you have Texas.

You have Utah.

It's one of them now.

Tennessee's going into that.

Is it Arizona?

Arizona is too.

Interesting.

Yeah.

But there's 27 of them.

Okay.

Well, more than I thought that are constitutional carry states.

So you buy a gun, you concealed, not concealed,

whatever you want, do whatever the fuck you want, no permit,

no background check, no nothing.

Right.

Wow.

Well, I mean, there's a background check to buy the gun, right?

Okay, that's it.

Okay.

That's interesting.

I didn't even know that.

All right.

Yeah.

So there's many states where you can literally just walk into a gun store,

buy the gun, go through your background check real quick,

walk out the same day, and then as soon as you walk out of the store,

throw it in a concealed carry holster and you're perfectly...

So the background same day?

Same day.

They get the background check right there.

Fuck, that's nice, dude.

No weight, nothing.

Yeah.

I mean, wow.

Yeah.

A lot of states that don't have extended weight periods for purchasing a firearm,

it's literally cash and carry.

You go to the gun store, you pay cash for it, they make a phone call to USDOJATF,

they do a quick background check and you can be out of there in 15, 20 minutes.

Wow.

That's foreign.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, you guys have a weight period here, right?

What is it?

Five or 10 days, I believe, but it ends up being longer because background checks take

almost 30 days sometimes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the thing.

That's why I was like, well, same day background check.

It takes like forever.

Yeah, that has been consolidated now.

The firearms background checks used to be done by the cities and the counties.

And so depending on where you lived, you can either have the city or the county do it.

It's all been consolidated to the state patrol now and they do it through one,

just one group there.

So I think they've sped that up a bit.

I bought a Smith & Wesson revolver just a couple of years ago.

And it seems like my recollection is it was like 20 days before I actually went and picked it up.

So.

Yeah, that's horrible, right?

You talk about people wanting to go buy a gun for personal protection and then,

oh yeah, you've cleared a background check, but you got to wait 20 days to come pick it up.

Luckily, it was just an extra gun.

I got lots of guns, but the person that like you say, there are people that don't have,

I had lots of guns.

I didn't really wasn't in a hurry to get it.

It was just for when I run and hike and stuff.

But yeah, yeah, yeah, that does suck to have to wait.

Well, it's like you said, background checks for ammunition are coming to Washington soon.

So how does it take us 30 days and they can do it right there in 15 minutes of background

checks?

It's a phone call.

It's literally a phone call because most of your state background checks, they run through,

you know, state backgrounds, but they also go through the FBI, right?

The NIC system, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the NIC system is literally a phone call.

They run your name 15 seconds later.

It comes back whether you're a prohibited person or not.

Geez, back in Washington.

And then there are some states too, where if you have a concealed carry permit

from your, from that state you live in, you literally go to a gun store and there's no

actual background check.

You fill out the...

That used to be that way.

That's how it used to be here.

I mean, that's the whole point.

You've already been background checked.

There was two different concealed carry permits.

You could, all you did is spend a little bit more money.

And supposedly they did a little bit deeper background check on you.

But if you had the white card, if you remember the white concealed carry card,

you can just purchase and walk out the door with it and they change that too.

Yeah.

So like I said, when we talk about that, you mean these constitutional carry states,

you go in, you just buy a gun, you start carrying it.

What levels of protection do you have, right?

And one thing that, you know...

If you use it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Right.

Thank you.

I mean, you know, God forbid you actually have to use that firearm for defense of yourself

or somebody else.

You know, what layer of protection do you have?

And you know, gone are the days where it's simply going, well, I was in fear of my life,

right?

That simple statement alone, 20, 30 years ago was sufficient to justify self-defense.

Now it's a whole another rabbit hole that you have to go down and, you know,

you have to hold yourself accountable to your own actions.

So a lot of...

Heavily depends where you're from too.

Like law enforcement throughout the U.S. will handle that in a totally different

way depending on where you're from too.

You know what?

And depending on the laws, you know, and it depends on the situation too.

Right.

But there's going to be more that are like, you know...

So let's talk, you know, the biggest state everybody's like, oh, I'm moving to Texas

because, you know, I don't have to worry about anything, right?

Did you know in the state of Texas, any self-defense shooting,

whether it's 100% justified or not, you're still going to the grand jury.

Okay.

Wow.

So what are you going to do to protect yourself and be able to defend yourself

if you don't have a law degree or anything like that?

Right.

So this is where companies like firearms legal protection comes in.

There's other companies out there.

I would never tell you what type of underwear to wear,

but I will tell you why I rely on FLP to protect myself and my family.

But we got to think about that, right?

You know, first question that I ask a lot of people is,

what is your goal of having a CCW permit?

Who can tell me that?

Right?

What do you think, Matt?

For me, to protect myself if I need to.

Okay.

Ryan?

Yeah, same, protect my family.

Yep, protect my property and my family.

Well, some people think that, you know, hey, I have a CCW permit.

I get to carry a gun.

I'm going to go out and be a hero.

Don't be that guy.

Right.

Don't be that guy.

You know, when we ask people, you know, what's your goal of having a CCW permit?

And they said there that you guys just gave the 99% answer, right?

Well, I have a permit.

I have this piece of plastic that allows me to carry a gun in public

to defend myself or the life of another person.

When you actually look at that, what intent are you actually presenting?

Right?

You're basically saying, I am going to use this.

I have the intent to use my gun if the situation arose.

And any prosecuting attorney can look at you and go,

well, you have the intent to do it.

I'm still going to charge murder.

I'm still going to file murder charges on you because you have the intent to use your firearm.

Well, we really need to look at-

Last resort.

That's just law enforcement too.

It's a last resort.

Yep.

But I can see how a good attorney could go that direction.

You went and got this gun.

You got this permit.

You've been waiting to use this.

Right, right.

Yeah, you wanted-

You were looking for a situation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Where somebody else, even with a firearm, may not have done it,

you wanted to do it because you wouldn't have got yourself a gun and a permit.

Yeah, exactly.

Interesting.

And I think the whole culture, we need to have a change in mindset, right?

The whole goal of me, even though I don't have a CCW permit,

I'm like you guys, right?

I have a Leo's Guard.

The whole reason I qualify every year to have that Leo's Guard

and I carry a gun with me everywhere I go is simply to go home, right?

And that's it.

That gun is no different than my wallet, my keys, and cell phone.

It lets me leave my house to go do what I have to do

to go back home to take care of my family.

And God forbid somebody try to stop me from going home.

And I think that's kind of the culture that we need to kind of get involved in

because you hear it all the time.

Hey, if you're at the 7-Eleven store and you see the clerk getting robbed

and you have a CCW permit, are you going to get involved?

What's the most common answer to that?

Right.

Yeah.

I'm sure civilians would say yes.

It depends.

Yeah, right.

It depends.

Yeah.

Right.

Well, it depends.

Every situation is different.

But if you change your goal of just going home,

are you getting involved in that situation?

No.

Right.

I'm going home.

Period.

So that's kind of what I like to do is I like to go out and kind of change

people mindset and understanding what a CCW permit actually allows you to do.

And you know, having that goal, that change in goal,

we kind of balance those scales from legality of a situation to morality of a situation.

And a lot of people, they overstress themselves about the laws and the legality

of getting involved in a situation.

Whereas if you more focus on the morality and you only get involved in incidents

that you're morally obligated to get involved in,

the legal system is not going to be a problem.

Yep.

Right.

Yep.

Luckily as law enforcement, we all have that, you know, we did it for so long,

you all have that mindset.

We know when and how we're going to use it and whether an opportunity,

case in point, you know, a lot of people think,

the thing is, I don't want to be downtown.

I carry everywhere too.

You know, I don't want to be, let's just say at church and an active shooter situation.

You may or may not be able to use your firearm in that situation,

but I at least want to have the chance and the opportunity

should I be able to stop that individual?

That's an extreme situation, but that's the level you should be thinking of.

That's where you're no, not that, hey, this guy's, you know,

he just smacked his wife back, no, that is not, that's called the police, be a good witness.

You know, it's like last resort you should be thinking about

that you would actually use your firearm.

And if I could stop that active shooter, I absolutely, you know, would,

that's a law enforcement background too, but that's the level you should be thinking

of active shooter type stuff.

Right. Yeah. And like I said, unfortunately, you know,

some people just have that mindset that they have a CCW permanent.

They think, oh, well, this gives me the authority to get involved in situations.

Correct.

And that's, that's the biggest flaw.

It's the, you know, you hear names all the time in courts and stuff about self-defense

incidents or using a gun to defend another person.

It's the hero mindset.

And the only reason we hear about them is because they were doing stupid shit.

Yeah. Right.

Yeah.

They didn't have that good mindset of, hey, this is just to allow me to go home.

Instead, they're out there going, well, I want to be the Avenger and, you know,

I want to be the peacekeeper.

Well, if you wanted to be that way, go through the academy and wear a badge on your chest.

You know what I think about it as talking about it here just came to my mind is

the way I, what you're saying and correct me if I'm wrong, but basically I look at it as like

people who are jiu-jitsu and things like that.

And they're highly trained, let's just say an MMA fighter.

They're highly trained.

They can literally kill somebody on the street, but their mindset is to walk away at all costs

and never have to use their craft that right until there's that situation where somebody

runs across at you and they got a chokehold on, then it's time, you know, but there,

that's a rare, you need to have the mindset that I'm a professional.

I'm professionally trained.

I have skills that other people don't have.

I could take a life, but at all costs, I will get myself out of a situation without

the presentation or use of a firearm, right?

No, absolutely.

Very professional mindset.

You know, the funny thing, you say that and I've actually been able to have the

pleasure of talking to a couple of individuals down in the Los Angeles area.

One guy was taking his CCW class down there and he had mentioned during the class that

he had been robbed at gunpoint three separate times.

Right. Thank you that you're still here.

Like we're, you know, we're happy we're still here, but one, probably need to make

better life choices.

Right.

If you're keeping putting yourself in that same position where it's happening over and

over again, but, you know, we asked him a question is like, would you carrying a gun

and made any difference in that situation?

He said, no, they got up on me way too fast for me to do anything.

But he said, once I have my permit and I started carrying, these situations didn't

happen and they didn't happen anymore because he was more consciously aware

of his surroundings.

And that brings you into that training, right?

You can go out and buy a gun and carry it.

But do you have the training to be able to use it?

But it's not just using the gun.

It's also the mindset of being able to make the decisions of, hey, maybe I shouldn't

walk across the street where this homeless guy is shooting up with heroin.

Correct.

Right. I'm just going to walk across the street around him.

Most people don't do that because they never had that training.

And that's where, you know, although I hate the fact that we have to take this 16 hour

course in California to have a concealed carry permit, I think the training requirement

is actually a really good idea.

Because again, it's not just about using guns.

It's about situational awareness and being able to be safe and not have to use your gun.

Right. Right.

And then there's a whole another, you know, rabbit hole.

We could go down what you do, a lot of firearms training, but most people, you know,

I've been a police officer 30 years, you know, and retired obviously.

But, you know, we've been through a ton of, you know, close quarter combat training,

shooting from your back, shooting upside down, shooting close, you know,

punching the target.

People don't understand if you just go out and call once a year at a paper target

and you do it from the five yard, the seven yard, the 15,

none of that relates really to an actual situation where time matters and you actually

are shooting under extreme stress.

You know what I mean?

That's the bare minimum.

I think most people have a concealed weapons permit.

And so the opportunity for you to actually perform in a manner that's,

that you're aware of your backdrop and the situation and you could actually take a place shot

is very, very limited.

And most people just don't have that.

We're blessed because we did that for so many years, but I don't think most people that have.

I'm not putting you down.

I say get one, but that just goes back to the point of be very careful what you get yourself

into because shooting under stress and your heart rates going and breathing and somebody's

actually trying to take your life.

That's a whole nother deal.

I think that's a good segue to before we really get into the benefits of having

firearms protection.

As you know, all instructors here at one point and Matt's doing this full time now,

should people get training classes?

And if so, which ones do you recommend?

So any firearms training.

Yeah.

He's a good host.

Get, get, get out and do something given the chance, right?

Yeah.

At the bare minimum, right?

You can, you can watch YouTube videos and we really don't.

I mean, for the mindset part of it, or like the basic fundamentals, right?

You can watch those YouTube videos, you know, YouTube university is a great thing.

But unfortunately, until you actually get out there and your practical applications,

I'm not going to recommend any specific instructor or anything like that,

but go out and get some type of training, right?

Go and take a basic pistol class just to understand how your gun operates and those

type of things.

If you are carrying concealed and you are in a constitutional carry state that doesn't

require you to go take a concealed carry class, go take one anyway.

Because it's, it's those type of classes that are going to keep your mind a little bit

sharper and you're not going to fall into bad habits or tendencies without,

it's what, you know, what we call the difference between ignorant and naive, right?

Don't be ignorant and naive with your guns because that's how you're going to end up

getting in, in, in bad situations.

Um, I, like I said, go get something regardless of its online training or there's companies

like I know in the LA area, there's companies out there that do simulator training for

civilians.

So you can go out and get yourself involved in not as much stress as a real life situation,

but a simulated stress environment, which would be surprised.

And we've had concealed carry holders that have had their permit for six years,

never had to use their gun.

And then they do perfectly fine on the live fire qualifications, square range, paper

target, just staring at you.

You put them in there and they're, you know, going from a perfect score on a shooting

qualification to get their permit to maybe hitting 1% of their rounds,

even in a simulator stress environment.

No, I, what's wrong with simulator?

Um, there's, there's different ones out there.

I'm, I used to be an instructor for Milo, which is, you know, one of the bigger law

enforcement focused, uh, uh, simulators, but I shoot, you can buy, buy them yourself,

like smokeless range, um, you know, that you can buy for your home.

One thing that I absolutely love now, there's a new company, uh, not newer,

but, uh, ACE, ACE, uh, was it ACE VR, uh, they use a, uh, MetaQuest headset.

Oh yeah.

And you can use that at home.

Oh, that'd be cool.

And they have like true weight, true firearm molded handsets that you put your MetaQuest

handset in there and you can run through all sorts of drills.

And, you know, if you like competition shooting, you can do qualifiers on there.

They have a bunch of stuff.

And I tell you what, I mean that, you know, I've, I've shot

300,000 rounds through that thing and it cost me zero.

That's the beauty of it.

Cause you get, you need, you need a lot of repetition.

You need muscle memory to be good with a firearm.

You need to spend hours.

Lot of dry firing, a lot of training to the point where it's just instinctually just do it.

That can be time consuming.

It can be expensive.

Um, but if you can do something like this with the VR, I've never done that.

I've done the simulations where you have a flat screen in front of the trailers.

Yeah.

I've done the trailers.

I have done one that wasn't 360, um, but it was kind of an octagon.

So you did have some peripheral stuff behind you.

That one was a lot of fun because people could sneak up behind you.

Yeah.

Um, but this VR would be an outstanding way for people to just get those hours and

hours of training with much less cost.

Plus he would just switch us right over and he's done with that to a porn hub.

Oh yeah.

Porn hub on his goggles is as meta's sitting on the couch.

I'm sold now.

Feet finder.

Not like metaQuest with porn hub.

Yeah.

No, that's, yeah, that's, I forget about all that technology.

Um, yeah, I think the little simulators are definitely, we did a lot in, you know,

at the police department, we had them every year, multiple times a year.

And although I got really bored with them, but especially new officers,

you know, it's easy to jack them up and, uh, civilians even jacked up even more

because they haven't been through stressful stuff.

And I watched and I was like, dude, I, by, by, by about year, you know, 20, I was like,

they're like, can you get excited at least something?

No, not really.

We just, yeah.

But it is, well, and especially in the early part of your career,

or if you're just a new shooter doing one of these scenarios, you don't want to,

you know, you're not going to die.

But you want to perform well.

So there's that pressure there too.

You don't want to look like a dumbass.

You don't want them to tell you you just died.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're like, it's not real, but you just died.

So standing on a square range shooting targets is pretty easy for people.

And a lot of ranges.

Great for hunting.

Do not allow you to draw your weapon.

Right.

So you have to.

Jesus.

Yeah, it's like the range down here for safety reasons.

They don't want you drawing and potentially putting around into the floor or something.

So you have to bench your weapon when it's empty, you know,

really to keep it up on, keep it up there on.

They let us because we're a police.

And we would go in there when they're closed and just be us.

So that, so shooting is good.

But to get into these situations where either you go to a class and get some training,

or you do some VR stuff, I think it's very beneficial to do that

situational type training and not just a square range.

And I think that goes back to the point.

Like, hey, Matt said, is that doing a simulator like that will make you realize

everything we just said is that you'll really evaluate

whether you want to get involved in certain situations really quick.

Because that's just a simulator and you're going to get your ass handed to you,

especially when you're new.

Well, especially the new simulator companies are actually putting like the electric shock vest.

Oh, dude.

That'd be great.

So you wear a vest and if, if the.

That's badass.

If the actor actually gets a good shot off,

your vest will actually give you a small electrical jolt.

Nice.

And then some of the new law enforcement ones actually have like airsoft guns.

I heard about this.

Like the airsoft cannon.

So as the like, you're actually taking rounds as you're in that simulator.

It teaches you to keep fighting too.

You don't stop.

Yeah.

Right.

There's all kinds of mindset there.

Yeah.

That's cool.

Yeah.

So the listening audience out there has heard everything that we have to say.

They've gone, got their permit and they've got their training.

Now they're ready to carry.

God forbid that they get in position where they have to use it.

Now it's kind of transitioned into the, the protection here.

Yeah.

So we, we talk about this like.

And it's firearms legal protection.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

So we talk about it and have something, have some type of plan, right?

Because the, the days that I can just simply say, well, I was in fear for my life.

Those days are over and you gotta have some type of plan.

I think we would all agree getting involved in a self-defense instance.

It's going to be the worst day of our life.

Right.

I mean, what's, what's your plan?

I get involved in the incident.

What's my next step?

Right.

Well, I got a call 911.

We'll understand that your phone calls being recorded.

Right.

That's the most important thing.

And it's not being recorded when the dispatcher goes 911.

What's your emergency?

No, your phone calls being recorded from the time you hit that green button on

your cell phone or you actually hit the last one on your, on a landline.

Do landlines even exist anymore?

Yeah.

Apparently.

I don't have any, but they do.

I don't do more about them.

They do.

Yeah.

So I understand that.

I think you stick your finger in this little round thing and you turn it and

you do that like 10 times.

Didn't you hate using those phones though?

Like your rotary phone.

That'd be fun again though.

I mean, think about those phones, right?

You get through about number seven out of nine digits and you screw up.

And you have to hang that all the time.

Yeah.

You're getting a hurry dude.

No doubt.

It's fun.

That's the stuff.

Or you just call random numbers and ask people if their fridge is running.

Yeah, go catch it.

No call to ID.

Go catch it.

Yeah.

So you're going to call 911 and what are we going to say, right?

And a lot of people think that, well, you know, in a self-defense incident,

I did everything right.

You might have thought you did everything right,

but you may be opening up a can of worms, right?

We say diarrhea in the mouth is the worst thing.

Because you will try to justify all of your actions.

Am I trying to justify all of your actions, even though you felt you did the right thing,

could actually put you in a worse place.

You can say the perfectly right thing and they'll twist it in court on you.

We know that as police officers completely twist from what it was meant.

So I would say very little.

Right.

And a lot of people don't understand that like us law enforcement officers,

we had those union protections, those union attorneys to help protect us.

And, you know, in the law enforcement world, we had, you know,

peace officer or bill rights.

And, you know, the, the, the bill of rights there for police officers,

you get involved in on duty shooting.

You have to provide a public safety statement and then you just shut up, right?

And you're not required to have it.

You're not required to actually provide a statement until you have 72 hours or

three full sleep cycles.

Because the psychology behind that is under a high stress life threatening environment.

You're not going to recall specific details about the incident.

And you might think that you shot 13 times,

but there was only two shell casings on the ground.

You might have thought the person was 26 feet away, but they were only two feet away.

And, you know, then we have, you know, things we can go into the psychology of it.

But, you know, you have time dilation where everything seems like it's in slow motion.

You have audit, auditory exclusion where you don't hear things, right?

You know, that tunnel vision, that hyper focused vision on just something that's

going to hurt you and don't see anything else around you.

If you don't understand those concepts, you could actually be saying things that

aren't actually true and it could look like you're being deceptive in court.

And that's never a good thing.

Yeah.

I will tell you everything you just said when I was in my police on duty shooting back in 2006,

that was not around.

And I got none of that.

Luckily, my shootings can 100% justified and everything went well.

But now that you say all that, that came later, the bill of rights.

Now, now they're doing it that way.

It's transitioned over the years.

But dude, I got, it was that night.

And then the next morning I was given statements and stuff, dude.

And I was so tired because I didn't sleep all night.

Yeah.

That's so thank God you're right.

And I can think now that I was like, delirious because I hadn't slept and the unions,

everybody's calling me all night and blah, blah, blah.

The next morning I've been given a full like two hour, three hour interview.

I don't even remember much of it.

So it all went well.

But anyways.

Well, how many times did your story change?

Not the, like, just your perception of the story changed.

Right.

Because, you know, oh, three days later, like, fuck, I forgot to say this.

Correct.

Some things come back to you.

Come to you, yeah.

Yes.

So thank God that, yeah.

So I'm just pounding the point homes.

I've been through that and yeah, you would be delirious and you definitely would remember things.

I remembered things days later, you know what I mean?

When you're out of the haze kind of.

So yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

So yeah, when you call 911, you only tell them the bare minimum necessary, right?

Don't go in there and go, oh, I was attacked by a guy with a knife and I shot him six times.

Don't do any of that, right?

What do you have to say?

You have to provide them the bare minimum information to get the resources there required

for that type of incident, right?

Hey, my name is Matt Haywood.

I'm at this Walmart parking lot at this location, right?

There has been a shooting, right?

Send police, fire and ambulance.

Hang up the damn phone.

You're not required to stay on the phone with 911, nor you're required to answer the phone

when that dispatcher tries to call you back, right?

You've provided the bare necessary information to get the resources there properly.

And what that does, it allows you one to be a little bit more calm, cool and collected,

but not try to over exaggerate, not exaggerate, but over explain yourself, right?

Let everybody else that witness this incident provide their statements and tell the story of

what happened.

You don't tell that story until you have an attorney.

Yep, yep.

Good call.

So once you're hanging up that phone, right?

Have a plan, right?

We talk about this all the time.

Wednesday at two o'clock in the morning is the worst time for you to be trying to find

a criminal defense attorney.

Yeah.

Even worse than that is actually being in jail looking at the billboard next to the

pay phone trying to figure out which one is going to be the best one for you.

Have that plan in place.

You know, a lot of people think, well, you know, I have my cousin Vinny, right?

My cousin Vinny is the best friend.

He's going to answer the phone for me.

He's going to take care of that.

Cool.

Is he going to answer the phone at Wednesday at two o'clock in the morning when he's on

vacation, having adult activities with his wife?

Well, I hope so.

You know, and again, that's not the time to be testing that.

So, you know, there's other companies out here that offer this type of service.

But again, for me, I have just found a home with firearms legal protection.

They've been around for a long time.

But excuse me, a little out of breath today.

I don't know why.

When we talk about this, you know, do you want my cousin Vinny?

Or do you want, you know, the free public defender that's going to be defending you

that has no time to actually sit there and dedicate to your case?

Do you want the attorney you can afford?

Or do you want Alec Baldwin's attorney?

Do you want just a regular run of the mill?

Or do you want an expert DUI attorney?

Right.

It's the same thing.

You want somebody that I'm just saying that specializes in certain things.

You want a specialist.

Right.

So having that in place, right?

With firearms legal protection, they've been around since 2014.

Their attorney network, it's not...

I personally know divorce attorneys.

You just said, you know, DUI attorneys.

I personally know divorce attorneys that work for some of these other self-defense companies.

Right.

That's not who I want representing me in a self-defense case.

I want a specialized attorney.

With FLP, the attorney, they have to be vetted five years.

They have to have a perfect track record in that self-defense and firearms world, stuff like that.

FLP is the only company in the industry that does not negotiate payment terms with their

attorneys either.

Right.

So even if you're an attorney with FLP's network, we're going to pay you full rate.

One of my...

I would say in acquaintance of mine, he's a criminal defense attorney in Orange County.

He charges $80,000 as a retainer in a self-defense case and $1,800 an hour.

Good Lord.

Some companies will go, we're not paying you that.

We're only going to pay you the state median for criminal defense, which is $4.96 an hour.

If you want to be on a retainer.

Yeah, right.

FLP pays that full rate.

You want that attorney.

He's in our network.

We're paying a Mady Grand Retainer in $1,800 an hour.

You're going to get the best attorney that we can provide for you.

If you have somebody that you want to represent you that's an attorney,

just have them reach out to us and we'll make sure they meet the vetting process.

Because again, firearms legal protection, border service provider,

we're going to provide you that best service.

And just because you like Mike and Vinny better,

doesn't mean he's the best person for that incident.

One of the things they say here on their website is,

unlike most legal protection plans, we are not an attorney reimbursement system,

meaning they're not just throwing money out to attorneys that sign up to be on it.

They are, as Matt said, vetted.

Basically insurance and they're just going to pay them.

Right.

And that's the other thing too, is with some of these companies that are out there

that offer this self-defense liability protection,

okay, you pay for your attorney and we'll pay you back, right?

No, FLP pays everything upfront.

Once you pay your membership dues with FLP,

there's not another penny that comes out of your pocket.

So everything is paid upfront from FLP.

The other thing I love about FLP since 2014,

since they've been around, right?

Never lost a criminal case, never lost a civil case.

They've never dropped or excluded a member from coverage.

Even if they've met the exclusions of the policy,

FLP will find a way to cover your members.

FLP is the only company and I challenge everybody,

hop on Google and try to find a lawsuit against firearms legal protection

and you'll never find one.

Yeah, here it also says, I think you mentioned this, but I just want to hit it again.

We take the time to research and provide you with a local attorney

who has experienced the self-defense cases,

criminal law and or has experienced handling firearms related incidents

where self-defense occurs.

Yeah.

And again, like I said, we're here in the service industry.

We're going to provide you the best service possible.

Make sure you get to fulfill your goal of going home.

And they'll answer 24 hours a day, 365 Christmas Easter.

Yes, sir.

You always have somebody answer while you're sitting in jail in the clink.

Because there's a high likelihood, folks,

that you may spend a night or two in jail,

even if you're 100% justified because the police have to make a decision

based on the evidence at that time.

Doesn't mean you'll be completely exonerated,

but you may be in the, you may get handcuffed, highly likely.

Yeah, I mean, take it in.

Think about getting involved in an incident on Tuesday before Thanksgiving, right?

72 hours before your criminal arraignment.

If you don't have the money to post bail

or you don't have that attorney representing you

that has actually a professional working relationship

with some of your prosecutors and judges,

you may be sitting there until Black Friday.

And that's not what we want.

We want to make sure you get to go home as fast as possible.

So that's why we only bring in those attorneys and people into our industry

that actually have a specialized interest in it.

What are some of the other benefits of being a member of FLP?

So without breaking down the plans yet, right?

But part of FLP, when you sign up as a member,

you get to download the app.

We all like our phone apps and stuff like that.

You don't have to carry a membership card with you.

You can actually hit that emergency hotline straight from the app.

Anybody can do it for you.

You have full access to our attorney network by sending them an email,

even in a non-emergency situation.

Hey, I'm traveling to this state.

What's the laws in this state regarding me to carry?

They'll email you back, right?

It's got reciprocity maps in there so you know,

I have a permit from California where can I legally carry?

Hey, I'm traveling to, I'm here in Washington, right?

So what did I do before I left?

I opened up the app.

I said, hey, can I carry in a bar?

Well, if I didn't have that app,

I'd have to be making phone calls to friends and family.

Although we don't like guns and alcohol,

but it's an example of you is like,

if I wanted to go to church on Sunday here in Yakima, can I do that?

And the resources that are in that app are just absolutely amazing

and well worth the $10 a month that you pay for just the basic membership with FLP.

It looks like they also keep you aware of things that are going on in the industry,

you know, gun legislation, industry publications, seminars, home safety tips.

So it just keeps you involved, you know, with firearms and being educated as well as being protected.

Yeah. And one, one other thing about the app that I absolutely love is the very first tab in that it

says law updates or gun law updates or legal updates, right?

It'll actually give you a list of all the most recent law updates,

like the DC magazine ban thing, right?

Like everybody else is dealing with the 10 round magazine ban.

If you didn't know, there was a lawsuit in Washington, DC,

where it was ruled unconstitutional to have a magazine ban that,

you know, for magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

You wouldn't have known about that unless you're really paying attention to the second

minute face or you opened up that app and it showed you right there DC magazine ban update,

right? Those, those sources right there, you can, you can sign up for

apps that'll give you the information for $15 a month.

Why not save $5 a month there and actually have the legal protection attached to it?

Yeah, I like it.

And then so there are different plans I'm seeing.

You got a basic plan, a premium or individual premium plan,

then you got a family premium plan, is that right?

And before you answer that, we'll come right back.

We got to do this.

Oh yeah. You know, we love our patron members.

We want you to become a patron member.

We want you to get to know you better, you know,

in the private Facebook group and all that kind of stuff.

But hey, you just want to support us through a flat donation we never bought.

At a flat donation, want to thank the following people for those.

We'd like to thank Eric Scroggins of Black Diamond Washington,

Richard Kemner of Troy, New York.

He is also a patron member and he gave a tip in the store when buying some product.

Appreciate that, Richard.

And Joel, I don't know how to say this,

Riccobine of Bullhead City, Arizona.

LawBindingBiker.com forward slash donate.

That's forward slash donate or go to the homepage.

LawBindingBiker.com.

There's a big donate button on there.

It helps pull a little fuel in the LawBindingBiker gas tank.

So we can keep this thing running on down the road.

Talking about the different levels you can sign up as.

Yeah. So in your own state of residence, we cover all 50 states,

but if you're residents of the state of Oregon,

you're resident of the state of New York.

Unfortunately, those states have laws that prevent companies like us from

actually covering you as a member, right?

What we call the murder insurance law, right?

Washington used to be that way.

There's actually two companies that are licensed to operate in the state of Washington right now

to offer these prepaid legal services.

But again, if you're not in Oregon, you're not in New York,

becoming a member with firearms legal protection is pretty easy.

You can go to the website.

If you guys use the LawBindingBiker promo code,

you're going to get a discounted on those rates.

The individual basic plan covers you in just your state of residence, right?

So I'm a resident of California.

If I had just the basic plan,

my membership would only cover me in the state of California.

Which if you're just going to carry in your own state when you travel,

you're not, then that would be acceptable.

Right. So with the basic plan, it covers you in your state of residence.

It covers all of your attorney fees in both criminal and civil court,

uncapped no limits, right?

So even if your case cost you $3 million, we're covering the bill on that.

It extends to all legal weapons.

I know the name is firearms legal protection,

but it does cover all forms of self-defense, right?

So hands feet.

That's good to know.

Yeah, hands feet.

You watch two of them in John Wick movies,

stab somebody in the neck with a pencil and self-defense.

Are they going to cover my cuba ton?

They are going to cover your cuba ton.

Dude, I'm a little three inch cuba ton.

I'm deadly without motherfucker.

Yeah, actually Louis the studio dog right here.

I forgot about those on the old key chain.

He's fucking jab people.

Jab eyes out, jab teeth out, dude.

Jab in the wiener.

Yeah.

I mean, God forbid somebody were to try to break down this door

and then Louis had to go run and bite the nuts off of that bad guy, right?

Ryan Erlacher would be covered as a member with FLP for Louis's actions.

Nice.

He is highly trained.

Yes.

I can see that.

He's all muscle.

Be Sean Friesi.

So it also covers the red flag loss and that's a whole other topic.

We do not have time.

Throwing stars?

Am I covered with my throwing stars?

You remember we all carried through that, dude?

Was it your only weapon of opportunity to defend yourself?

That's it.

Yes, it was.

We used to make them in metal shop.

Throw them at the ceiling.

They'd stick in the ceiling.

Sorry, hey, would I get off track?

I'm funny shit like that.

It's awesome.

Don't start.

We'll add the comedy to it, right?

One of my favorite stories, frozen bag of avocados, right?

Oh, yeah.

I don't want to know what was in the guacamole, but you know.

Yeah, right, right.

Yeah.

I want to be headlined though.

If I have to just take somebody out, dude, I want to be headlined.

Man kills a man with throwing stars.

Just a fucking picture of a guy with a throwing star and his forehand.

Dude, just people are like, that guy's a badass.

And then my kubetan is back up.

Ninja.

Ninja, dude.

You're a ninja.

All right.

And a bit of a jackass.

A jackass ninja.

We're podcasting in the morning drinking coffee, guys.

So this is a little, I'm not sure what you've been up to.

This is what you get when we're all sober.

Yeah.

Yeah, no doubt it is.

Her lacquer's over there crying.

So again, like I said, basic individual membership,

your state of residence covers all your legal fees in both criminal and civil

court, covers the red flag laws.

It also covers criminal expungement, right?

So your record expungement.

So you'll never have to worry about it being disclosed to your employer or

anything like that in a background check, right?

That's 10 bucks a month.

That's less than Ryan Starbucks coffee he has right here.

You know, definitely.

That was actually only $5.98.

Thank you.

Well, you had all the fluffy stuff in there.

Still $5.98.

But you're going to go buy one on the way to the store.

Man, I doubt it.

I'll be really jacked up.

You see how jacked up I am right now?

I could not do two of those today.

You don't want to see me on two of those.

I did sidetrack a little bit.

I hadn't had Starbucks for, I don't know, like two weeks.

I was taking a little bit of a break.

And Ryan brought a nitro cold brew to the store.

It's like crack cocaine.

Holy shit.

I mean, I could feel it in my body.

It's like vibrating.

I was like, holy crap.

Going for black coffee just doesn't have the kick.

Just the Keurig black coffee.

Yeah, you did a nitro on top of it.

That's legit.

Yeah.

Anyways, so the premium.

You're good.

Yeah.

So if you wanted more coverage than just your state of residence,

again, the basic only covers your attorney fees, basically.

To go up to that premium plan, I like to call it the bougie plan, right?

So the bougie plan covers you in all 50 states, right?

Even if you, like me as a resident of California,

if I were to travel to New York, I'm still covered in the state of New York.

Even though, like I said, they have the murder insurance laws of what we talk about.

We just can't cover the individuals that live in those states.

But if you live in some of the other states as a member

and you go to one of those states, you're 100% covered with us.

It also covers your bail bond, right?

If you look at some of the history and self-defense cases,

bail is usually anywhere between $300,000 to $1 million.

I guess that, yeah.

So every state in the country is a 10% bail state, right?

So if my bail is set at $1 million, I can come up with $100,000

and still be able to get to go home, right?

Well, as long as you have other collateral.

Correct.

So FLP comes in and pays that for you, right?

So they're going to pay your bail, so you actually get to go home.

And again, accomplish your goal of going home.

Are they paying the full bail or do you still have to have your own collateral?

Are they only paying the 10%?

Because like here, you put 10% down,

but you also got to give titles to cars.

It could be a house so that if you default on your bail,

they can take that shit from you.

Yeah, so FLP pays up to $250,000 for your bail.

The collateral goes on to firearms legal protection.

So you're going to get your full bail to be able to go home.

Okay.

Without you putting up any of your own collateral.

Yeah, you don't have to, oh, here's the title of my house.

Here's the note.

FLP is going to get you home.

Like I said, again, there's nothing that comes out of your pocket for this.

Okay.

Also pays for expert witnesses, right?

I've done expert witness testimony.

I can tell you that they're not cheap, right?

Like in the Los Angeles area,

most of your expert witnesses are going to be about $15,000, right?

FLP covers that.

Private investigators are 100% covered as well.

One of the big things that I love about it,

and Ryan, you could probably testify to this.

I'm not sure if you've been involved in a shooting on video.

Technically.

Okay.

Yes, I have.

One thing.

Not of a person.

Well, a car, the person was in the car.

It's a long story, but yes,

technically I have been involved in the shooting.

But if you've been involved in any type of stressful situation,

life-threatening situation, like I said,

worst day of your life, right?

The counseling support, right?

I was involved in a couple of officer-involved students,

and I can tell you this, that the only reason I'm able to talk about things like this

is from having that professional counseling support, right?

FLP pays for that as well.

Lost wages, right?

Up to $350 a day.

$350 a day doesn't sound like a lot,

but it keeps you on your feet, and they reimburse you for,

or not reimburse me, but they actually pay you up front.

Seen cleanup, right?

Blood and guts ain't very easy to clean up on your white carpet here,

so that comes into play too.

And then in insurance states,

there's only one state that this next benefit doesn't apply to,

and that's California, of course,

because in California we have different firearm laws and stuff

that might be coming to other states.

But outside of California,

if you happen to use a firearm in a self-defense incident,

FLP will actually come in and pay for that firearm confiscation and replacement, right?

All that stuff I just talked about is $22 a month.

And I mean, that's ridiculous.

I mean, $22 a month, I'd rather spend $22 a month

than not ever have to use it,

than have to worry about me getting involved in an incident

and having to come up with $300,000 to help keep my ass out of a six-by-six with chainsaw.

So this was pretty much a no-brainer for us,

being a former law enforcement officer, firearms instructors,

and supporters of the Second Amendment.

We really do encourage you to carry a firearm,

if you so choose to do that, to protect yourself and or others,

depending on your situation.

Matt approached us about doing a podcast on this.

We've done some in the past, by the way.

Lab 160, we talked about carrying a firearm while writing.

That was with patron member Russell Roberts.

And then another one we did with Matt and Houston

was just a little more recently, Lab 305, another one.

So a couple of good ones to talk about options and how to carry whatnot.

This is more about the protections

and what could happen if you have to use it.

So Matt approached us about doing a podcast on this,

and there's no brainer, like I said, the firearms legal protection.

We decided to become a member of support, a team member, I guess, if you will.

So we've partnered up with them.

You can go to lawbitingbiker.com, forward slash, excuse me,

FLP, and that'll take you to the place to sign up and get more information about it.

Also, there'll be a banner on our website as well.

And going through that link, you get a discount or something?

Yeah. So normally, like that basic plan we talked about, right?

So just your state of residence with just your attorney fees is normally $17.

Going through your as affiliate link, it's going to go down to $10 a month.

Then the individual premium plan, normally $27, now goes down to $23.

But one thing I did miss on, and I wanted to talk about real quick, is a lot of us,

we have families, we have kids, and those type of things.

FLP is proud to offer their family premium benefit.

So everybody that signs up for that premium plan or the bougie plan I talked about,

you, one other adult in your household, and all your minor kids,

whether you have one child or 30 children, they're all covered under that.

And again, it's for all forms of self-defense.

You know, your child's going to get in trouble at school, right?

Bullying situations, stuff like that.

If they have to use force to defend themselves at school,

you and your entire family and your child's going to be 100% covered with firearms to go protection.

Okay. Nice. Lawabidingbiker.com forward slash FLP.

That's forward slash FLP.

Use that link. It kicks you through.

You'll get the discount. You'll be supporting us, of course.

And it sounds like getting an awesome, awesome product and protection, so to speak.

Also, let's say they don't use our link.

Is there a code that they could just enter if they went around and went directly to FLP?

Yeah. So if they go to firearmslegal.com,

you can select your level of coverage you want at the checkout page.

You can just put in the discount code part, lawabidingbiker, all one word,

hit submit, and you'll still get those discounted pricing as I mentioned.

Nice. So coupon code lawabidingbiker.

All this will also, if you forget, if you're driving and you can't write it down,

it'll be in the show notes. Write in whatever podcast aggregator you're listening on.

It'll be there in the show notes or you just lawabidingbiker.com forward slash

whatever episode number this is, always get you through to our website show notes

with all links you can click through and all that.

So yeah, the other thing too is if you're actually a patron of lawabidingbiker,

you know I'm in the patron page, so you could always shoot me an email or a text message

or a private message in the Facebook group and I'll, I'll help you walk you through it

and get you all signed up and get your family protected.

Noice. Noice. What else lurch? You got anything else on this?

I don't think so. I think that was a good podcast.

Yeah, that's good. You got anything else to sum up or did we cover everything?

I can't wait to see all you guys in New York in July.

Yeah.

Bring your ninja stars, bitches.

That's right. I'm bringing ninja stars in my Kubotan.

I'm gonna poke you in the wiener, dude. You want to take somebody out?

You poke them right in the tip of the Kubotan.

Fuck, they're going down, dude.

Yeah, they should be in here.

Matt Haywood.

Of course.

Appreciate it.

No, I'm glad you guys let me come back after last shenanigan, so...

Oh, you're always welcome here.

Yeah, yeah, anytime, anytime.

Yeah, a lot of stuff going on and we're rolling out of here.

We're all rolling down to the lawabidingbiker store from the studio here.

Javan's down there and because we know it's going to be another very busy day.

We appreciate all your guys' support and I was telling Haywood here,

I can't even explain how fast we've scaled the lawabidingbiker store.

It's getting very, very popular and we are so appreciative of that.

But it's definitely, we're changing things and getting new systems

and we're working on things because it's been a bear.

But we are there.

We're there to help you.

We answer a lot of questions.

Like we say, we're not the big corporate guys.

We're actually just, you know, a bootstrap company of bikers

helping as many bikers as we can worldwide.

We're actually using and testing the stuff, doing videos, helping people.

So when people contact us, it's not some guy with a headset that rides a,

you know, rides a sports bike, nothing wrong with that.

But it's actually like the twin American made riders that are actually using the

shit, you know, so we could actually answer questions.

We've got stuff on our bikes and all that.

And so we do answer a lot of emails and help people through that get what they need.

So yeah, yeah, we very much appreciate that.

So I haven't mentioned in a long time.

Make sure you're signed up for the email free email club lawbindingbiker.com

forward slash email club all one word no dashes.

That's free.

And so when we pop a new video or a new article or anything like that,

we shoot out an email to you guys so you can see it and have access to it.

Again, that's lawbindingbiker.com forward slash email club.

The lab podcast hotline phone number.

It's also the store phone number.

It is not an man phone, but we do answer.

It's man as far as we'll answer.

We'll listen to your message and we'll get back to you when we can.

But if you just want to leave a voicemail, you can always just call 509-273-1290.

That's 509-273-1290.

And you can leave a voicemail there for us that we can play on the podcast.

But if you leave a store message there, it could take a few days to get back to you

much faster via our contact form over at the store contact because we can answer those at home,

remotely, phone calls have to be scheduled in between customers and other obligations.

But we answer people lickety split via our contact form.

Matt, as a contract employee of lawbindingbiker, he does video editing.

If you're not aware, thank you.

He is going to be put to work this afternoon.

Yes, yes, he is in a little bit different capacity, I believe.

I think we're going to do some shipping and whatnot.

Yep, yep, we are.

We got a shitload of stuff to do.

Yeah, looking forward to it.

Yeah, it'll be fun.

But yeah, Heywood's been editing videos now for some time for me.

We split them.

I do a lot of the editing still, but I pawn a lot off to him.

He does them remotely and then sends them back.

So a lot of the edits you see up on the channel are courtesy of Matt Heywood.

And we appreciate you having him being on board.

And I like to, I give a lot of the employees one of the other benefits, you know, is I tend to give,

I like to say thank you for your hard work and dedication.

So I have a present, a gift for your bike sitting down at the law-abiding biker store

that we're going to give you.

In fact, it's on your desk, isn't it?

It is.

So yeah, free on law-abiding biker media.

I'm a little scared.

Yeah, well, you won't be when you see it.

I know the type of gifts you like to give.

You're the one that puts little penises on people's bike stems.

Yeah, that's true.

Good point.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

Hey, I think that one's still on Russell's.

Well, when Russell picked up the bike, it was still there.

I'm not sure.

Nice on my old bike.

Hey, was it a?

Pablo Calceron.

Hey, Pablo, let us know in the lab group if that thing is still on there.

Yeah, nice, nice.

Thanks for tuning in, guys.

We're out.

Bye.

About this episode

Matt Haywood, a retired law enforcement firearms professional, joins the Law Abiding Biker crew to break down “riding while armed” and what actually happens after a defensive gun use. The discussion covers LEOSA/retired-officer carry rules, constitutional/permitless carry differences, and why the goal should be “go home,” not heroics. Haywood also explains firearms legal protection (FLP): attorney vetting, 911 call basics, planning for court, and coverage tiers, plus training and VR/simulator options. The episode also includes store/product updates and a trailer-build chat for an upcoming cross-country ride.

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In this episode, Lurch and I are joined by Patreon Member Matt Haywood and we talk about Firearms Legal Protection. Being protected by a Firearms Legal Protection plan gives gun owners immediate access to experienced attorneys after a self-defense incident, which is one of the most critical moments to have professional guidance. Instead of scrambling to find legal help while under extreme stress, members can contact a 24/7 emergency hotline and be connected with a lawyer who understands self-defense law. This early legal support can help protect your rights during questioning, prevent costly mistakes, and ensure you navigate the legal system properly from the very beginning.

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Another major benefit is financial protection against the high costs associated with criminal and civil defense. Legal cases involving firearms can quickly become expensive, with attorney fees, expert witnesses, investigations, and court costs adding up fast. A Firearms Legal Protection plan helps cover these expenses, reducing the financial burden on the member and their family. This allows individuals to focus on their defense and recovery rather than worrying about how to afford a potentially lengthy legal battle.

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Beyond legal and financial coverage, these plans also provide peace of mind and education. Members often gain access to training resources, legal insights, and guidance on responsible firearm ownership and use of force laws. Knowing you have a structured plan in place can make a significant difference in confidence and preparedness, helping ensure that if you ever face a self-defense situation, you are not navigating the aftermath alone.

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