An oil filter is like a screen for your engine oil. It catches dirt and debris so the oil can keep protecting the engine. This episode is comparing different kinds of oil filters and how they relate to warranty.
Car
2025 CVO
On Harley-Davidson, โCVOโ usually means a more premium, custom version of a bike. The question here is whether using a specific aftermarket oil filter could affect warranty coverage on a 2025 CVO.
Warranty coverage means the company will pay for certain repairs if something goes wrong. If you use an aftermarket part, the question is whether the warranty will still cover problems.
Figurati is the name of the oil filter brand being discussed. The hosts are basically asking: if you use that brandโs filter, will your bikeโs warranty still be valid?
Axle nut covers are add-on pieces that fit over the axle nut area. They can make the bike look nicer and help protect the hardware from dirt and moisture.
Magnetic oil filters use magnets to attract and hold ferrous metal particles from the oil, supplementing the filterโs normal filtration media. The idea is to reduce wear debris circulating in the engine, which is especially relevant for riders who want to manage oil cleanliness between service intervals.
Seat bolts are the screws/bolts that hold the motorcycle seat in place. Aftermarket versions are usually about making the bike look nicer or keeping the hardware in better shape.
Magnetic dipsticks use a magnet on the stick to attract ferrous wear particles from the oil, giving a visual indication of metal debris. Riders use them as an extra โdata pointโ for monitoring engine wear trends alongside oil condition and service intervals.
Car
24 street glide
Theyโre talking about a Harley-Davidson Street Glide from 2024. Itโs a touring-style motorcycle, and the โaxle nut coversโ they mention are mainly for looks and finishing the bikeโs hardware.
Car
HJC ARFA 91
This is a specific motorcycle helmet model from HJC. The host says itโs a cheaper option compared to a more expensive Shoei helmet, and they think itโs still a great buy for the money.
Car
Shoei Neotech 3
This is a higher-end motorcycle helmet from Shoei. The host uses it as the โpremiumโ reference point when talking about whether a cheaper helmet is still worth it.
Zero 3D is a company that makes aftermarket accessories for motorcycles. In this segment, theyโre mainly talking about products like lighting and comfort upgrades that fit specific bike models.
Theyโre talking about a brand that makes LED lights for motorcycles. The point is that these lights are designed to be straightforward to install and compatible with certain setups.
Theyโre talking about Hog Works, a company that makes motorcycle parts. The hosts like it because the parts fit well and are finished nicely, and they say customer support is responsive.
Car
Harleys
They mean Harley-Davidson motorcycles. The hosts are saying theyโve installed these parts on their own Harleys and trust how they work.
Lubrication is how oil gets to the engine parts so they donโt grind against each other. Good lubrication also helps keep the engine cooler and cleaner.
Microns are a way to measure how fine the filter is. The smaller the number, the better it usually is at catching tiny particlesโthough the filter still has to let oil flow properly.
Used oil analysis is testing a sample of oil after itโs been in the engine to check wear and contamination. It can reveal issues like excessive metal particles, fuel dilution, or coolant leaks before they become failures.
Synthetic oil is a special type of engine oil thatโs engineered to last longer and protect better. It usually works well in both hot and cold weather.
Car
2024 Harley Davidson touring
Harley-Davidson Touring bikes are made for long rides and usually have room for luggage. Taking off the fuel tank is sometimes necessary to do certain repairs or upgrades.
A strapless transport system is a way to hold your motorcycle in place without using tie-down straps. Itโs meant to make loading and securing the bike faster and more consistent.
Company
RISK racing
RISK racing makes gear for transporting motorcycles. The key idea here is a system that helps you secure the bike without using straps.
Oil filtration is how your engine oil gets cleaned as it circulates. Cleaner oil helps protect the engine from wear caused by dirt and tiny metal particles.
OEM filters are the โfactoryโ style filters made for your bike by the original manufacturer. The episode compares them to the reusable aftermarket option.
Wire mesh filters catch dirt using a metal screen. Because the screen can often be cleaned, theyโre sometimes used as reusable filters.
Car
Harley-Davidson
They bring up Harley-Davidson because the conversation is about oil filters for Harley motorcycles. The main idea is whether you should use a disposable filter or a reusable one you service.
Term
magnetic reusable
Theyโre talking about a reusable filter that uses magnets to help trap metal particles in the oil. That can help keep the oil cleaner and protect the engine components.
โWhite papersโ are referenced as technical documents the hosts read to evaluate the filter technology. In this context, theyโre used to support claims about performance and engineering credibility rather than relying only on marketing.
Term
nominal vs absolute
Nominal and absolute are two different ways to describe how good a filter is. Nominal usually means โpretty good at catching,โ while absolute is more like a stricter guarantee about the biggest particles it will stop.
Synthetic media is the material inside the oil filter that actually traps dirt. Some synthetic materials can catch smaller particles more effectively than paper, but it depends on the filter design.
Paper media is the older, common material inside many oil filters. Itโs popular because itโs inexpensive, but how well it filters depends on how the filter is built.
Magnets in a serviceable oil filter are used to attract and hold ferrous (iron-containing) particles from the oil. This can complement the filter media by reducing the amount of metal debris circulating, though it doesnโt replace full filtration of non-magnetic particles.
Instead of putting a magnet on the outside, some filters put the magnet where the oil actually flows through the filtering material. That way, the magnet has a better chance to catch metal debris.
Company
Canadian company
They mention a Canadian company that puts magnets directly in the oil flow path. The idea is that the oil passes by the magnets more directly, so more metal debris gets pulled out.
Company
Amzol
โAmzolโ is referenced as the speakerโs prior filter brand choice for their bike, and as a baseline for comparing filter costs versus the serviceable โFiguratiโ approach. The segment uses a rough cost equivalence (about ten Amzol filters equals one serviceable filter) to argue for long-term value.
Filters can be rated in different ways. โAbsoluteโ usually means the filter is tested to catch particles very consistently at that size, while โnominalโ is more of an estimate. Thatโs why two filters with the same micron number might not filter the same way.
Flow rate means how easily oil moves through the filter. If oil flows more easily, the engine can get lubrication faster. But the filter still has to catch dirt, so the design has to balance both.
Cooling fins are extra ridges on the outside of the filter that help it shed heat. If the oil stays cooler, it can work better and last longer. Itโs like adding a radiator to the filter area.
Micron rating is a way to describe how fine a filter isโhow small the dirt particles it can catch are. The episodeโs big lesson is that the same micron number can mean different things depending on how itโs measured.
A stainless steel mesh filter screen is the reusable filter element described for the Figurati filter. The hosts rate the mesh by micron size and discuss how that rating (absolute vs nominal) affects real-world filtration expectations.
PC racing flow is mentioned as a source for a filterโs micron rating. The key point is that โnominalโ and โabsoluteโ ratings arenโt the same, so the numbers can be misleading if you donโt know which one they mean.
Theyโre talking about what the original equipment manufacturer (OEM) claims their filter can catch. The hosts suggest the OEM numbers arenโt always clear or consistent, which matters when youโre comparing filter performance.
โThrowawayโ refers to conventional disposable oil filters that are replaced rather than cleaned and reused. The episode contrasts these with reusable/serviceable filters and argues that filtration performance can be better than people assume based on micron marketing alone.
Neodymium magnets are rare-earth magnets used to attract ferrous metal particles in the oil. The hosts say Figurati uses multiple magnets (five) and specify the magnet type as neodymium/rare earth, tying it to how the filter may reduce metal contamination.
The episode claims the Figurati reusable filter uses five magnets to help capture ferrous debris. This is presented as part of the overall filtration strategy alongside the mesh screen and micron rating discussion.
Silica/silicates are basically dirt particles that can end up in your oil. If your oil analysis shows high silica, it often points to dirt getting in through the air system (like an air leak or not-so-great filtration), not necessarily the engine wearing out.
Ferrous material is basically iron wear debris. If your oil test shows more iron than usual, it usually means the engine is wearing more internally, not just picking up dirt from outside.
Blackstone is a company that tests samples of your used oil. They can help you understand whether your engine is mostly getting dirt in from the outside or whether itโs wearing internally.
Oil analysis checks whatโs in your oil after youโve driven. Iron can point to wear, and silica can point to dirt/contaminationโstable numbers usually mean things are staying under control.
โAbsoluteโ is a stricter kind of filter rating. If a filter says โ20 micron absolute,โ itโs trying to tell you it can trap particles that are about 20 microns (or close to that) very reliably.
Amsoil is a company that sells motor oil and oil filters. Here theyโre being used as an example because they claim a specific filter rating (like 20 microns).
MAHLE is a big company that makes oil filters for a lot of different brands. The point here is that many โdifferentโ filters may come from the same few manufacturers.
Bearings are parts inside the engine that need clean oil to stay smooth. If dirty particles get through, they can grind and wear the bearings faster.
Term
scuff the cylinders
โScuffingโ refers to damage on cylinder walls caused by abrasive contact or insufficient lubrication. The segment uses it as an example of why controlling particulate contamination in oil matters for engine longevity.
โNominalโ is basically a โweโre aiming to catch particles around this sizeโ statement. It doesnโt promise exactly how often it will catch them, so real-world performance can be less certain.
Concept
filter efficiency vs. capture guarantee
This segment explains the difference between โefficiencyโ (how much contamination a filter removes, often expressed as a percentage) and a โcapture guaranteeโ (a stricter claim that nearly all particles at a size are stopped). Understanding this distinction helps listeners interpret filter marketing and choose between disposable vs. reusable filtration strategies.
โAbsoluteโ means the filter is tested to block almost all particles of a certain size and bigger. Itโs usually a more strict, more trustworthy claim than just saying it filters well.
Filter efficiency is how well it actually stops dirt. If a filter is too restrictive, it can clog and then the system may route oil around it. So the best โefficiencyโ on paper might not be the best in real life.
Oil filters can get clogged. When that happens, some systems open a bypass so oil can still flow to the engine. The downside is that oil going through bypass isnโt being cleaned by the filter.
Wear metals are tiny bits of metal that show up in oil when engine parts rub together. If those numbers keep increasing, it can mean something is wearing out faster than it should.
They use their 2018 GMC Yukon as an example of oil test results. In this case, the oilโs protective ability started to drop around 9,500 miles, which can mean the oil is getting too acidic.
Total Base Number (TBN) is an oil-analysis metric that estimates how much alkaline additive reserve the oil has to neutralize acids formed during combustion. A falling TBN suggests the oilโs protective capacity is being used up, often indicating the oil is aging faster than expected or the engine is producing more acids.
Microns are just a way to describe how small the dirt particles are. Oil filters are rated by how small of particles they can catchโsmaller number usually means it catches finer junk, but it may clog sooner.
Concept
industrial filtration vs vehicle filtration
Big industrial machines sometimes need very specialized filtration because the environment is harsher. Regular vehicles donโt usually benefit from the same level of complexity because it can be overkill and harder to maintain.
Not all โmicron ratingsโ are the same. Nominal is more of a โsome of itโ rating, while absolute is closer to โthis size should be capturedโ under test rules.
The oil sump is the lowest part of the engine where oil collects before being pumped through the lubrication system. The speaker mentions non-ferrous particles being present in the oil sump and then being captured by the filterโs magnetic/particle-charging process. Knowing what the sump is helps listeners understand where contamination accumulates.
Microns are a way of saying โhow small of dirt a filter can catch.โ But the number alone doesnโt tell the whole storyโdifferent tests and rating styles can make the same number mean different things.
โNominalโ and โabsoluteโ are two common ways filters are rated. Absolute ratings are typically stricter (intended to capture particles down to a stated size under defined conditions), while nominal ratings are more approximate and can vary with test setup and flow.
Theyโre talking about a stainless steel mesh filter thatโs rated to capture particles around 25 microns, using an โabsoluteโ style rating. The important part is that this rating is about the filter media, not any extra features like magnets.
Microns are tiny sizesโ25 microns is the filterโs target for what it can catch. โAbsoluteโ usually means itโs meant to reliably trap particles around that size, not just โmaybeโ catch them. The stainless mesh is the physical screen doing the filtering.
Company
figure Audi says
They mention Audi as a reference point for what micron filtration might mean in practice. The point is to estimate how fine the filtration could be if the system is built to target around 10 microns.
10 microns is smaller than 25 microns, so itโs for catching finer junk in the oil. If that finer filter gets clogged, the system may route oil around it so the engine still gets lubrication.
The segment contrasts a โserviceable bypassโ design with a PC Flow filter that has a bypass system but is not designed to be taken apart for service. This matters because serviceability affects how thoroughly owners can clean or maintain internal filter components over time.
Theyโre saying the bypass is set to open around a certain oil pressure. If the filter is restricted and pressure rises, the filter will start letting oil bypass so the engine still gets lubrication.
The point is that metal and debris in the oil can hint at problems early. If you notice it sooner, you can investigate before the engine damage becomes serious.
Small bits of metal can sometimes show up in oil, especially early. But if you see big chunks or shards, thatโs a warning sign that something inside the engine may be failing or wearing abnormally.
Some drain plugs have a magnet on them. When you drain the oil, the magnet grabs metal particles so you can tell if the engine is wearing more than it should.
Company
Mel's mesh filtration
This sounds like a special oil filter design that uses mesh to trap debris. Theyโre saying itโs better at catching contaminants and easier to check and maintain than the factory filter.
โOEMโ refers to the original equipment manufacturerโs partsโhere, the stock oil filter. The hosts claim the aftermarket filtration package adds features like magnetic capture and inspectability that the OEM stock filter doesnโt provide.
A billet housing is a metal part made by cutting it from a solid chunk of metal. Itโs often used when people want a strong part that also looks high-end.
Company
Figure outie
The hosts are talking about a specific oil-filter brand (โFigure outieโ). They like it because itโs designed to be cleaned and serviced, not just thrown away after an oil change, and it also looks good on the bike.
โ35 absoluteโ is a stronger, more certain filtration claim than โnominal.โ It suggests the filter is designed to reliably trap particles around that size, not just โaboutโ that size.
โ10 micron nominalโ is basically how fine the filter is. It means itโs meant to catch particles around 10 microns, but โnominalโ usually means itโs an estimate of performance rather than an absolute promise.
Using a microfiber cloth during filter cleaning helps avoid scratching or leaving lint that could contaminate the oil system. Itโs part of the recommended process for cleaning reusable filter elements.
An Allen head key (hex key) is the tool used to unscrew the filterโs bypass system for disassembly. This is relevant because it indicates the design is intended for quick service without special tools.
An oil change is when you drain old engine oil and put in fresh oil. The hosts are saying you can also service or swap the filter element when you do that.
The โinternal filterโ is the replaceable filtration element housed inside the outer filter housing. This design supports a reusable housing approachโclean the housing/bypass, then swap the internal element as needed.
That stainless mesh screen is the part that actually traps dirt in the oil. Because itโs mesh, you can clean it and put it back instead of throwing it away.
Parts cleaner is a solvent used to remove oil and grime from components before reassembly. The key point here is drying timeโresidual solvent or water can contaminate the engine or cause corrosion.
โOil flowโ refers to how quickly and easily oil moves through the engine and filtration system. In performance and racing contexts, higher flow can help maintain oil pressure and reduce starvation during hard use. However, flow and filtration have to be balanced so the engine still gets clean oil.
Ferrous metal debris means iron-containing particles, which are attracted to magnets. In engines, these particles can come from normal wear (like clutch or gear wear) or from component damage. Capturing them helps reduce abrasive wear as oil circulates.
Inspectability is how easy it is to visually check a filterโs condition (or the contaminants it captures) without specialized tools. Better inspectability can help riders understand whether their filtration is doing its job.
Oil analysis means sending a small amount of oil to a lab. They check for metal wear and contamination so you can see whatโs really happening inside your engine.
The more oil samples a testing company has collected over time, the better they can tell whatโs โnormalโ for your kind of bike. That helps the report be more useful than a generic guess.
Company
Dynacycle
Dynacycle is referenced as part of a real-world testing discussion for motorcycle oils. The speaker is comparing oil brands/products and tying that back to used-oil analysis results, implying that different oils can behave differently under real riding conditions.
This is a law that prevents car makers from blocking your warranty just because you used non-brand parts. If they try to require their specific filters or services, they canโt just deny the warranty without following the rules.
AutoZone is a store where you can buy car and motorcycle parts. They mention it to show that you can buy a different filter brand than the one the manufacturer sells.
FRAM is a filter brand you can buy at parts stores. The episode uses it as an example of aftermarket filters that shouldnโt automatically void warranty coverage.
If a shop says your aftermarket part caused the breakdown, they have to prove it. They canโt just guess or assumeโthere has to be real evidence connecting the part to the failure.
To deny a warranty claim, the shop needs more than โit was probably your part.โ They need a clear reason and proof that the part directly caused the failure.
An air filter helps keep dirt out of the engine. Theyโre saying that if you use a bad/incorrect air filter setup, it could plausibly cause problemsโunlike normal oil-filter use.
This is a U.S. law that protects you when a car maker tries to deny warranty claims. They generally have to prove the aftermarket part actually caused the failure.
BMW is mentioned as an example in warranty arguments. The takeaway is that the company canโt just deny coverage automaticallyโthey may need proof the aftermarket part caused the issue.
Aftermarket parts are components made by companies other than the vehicleโs original manufacturer. In warranty disputes, the key issue is whether the manufacturer can prove the aftermarket part caused the specific failure being claimed.
The FTC is a U.S. government agency that enforces consumer protection rules. Here itโs being used as an authority for how warranty disputes should be handled.
An oil spec is basically a checklist of what the oil is supposed to do. If the bottle clearly lists the spec it meets, itโs easier to show itโs the right type of oil for your engine. If it doesnโt list anything, itโs riskier.
Concept
ASTM standard
ASTM is an organization that publishes standardized test methods and performance requirements used across industries, including lubricants. The hosts mention multiple standards (national and international) that govern what counts as acceptable oil/filter performance. Their point is that reputable products follow recognized standards, which helps support warranty and performance claims.
Term
quickie lube
โQuickie lubeโ is a quick oil-change place. The hosts are saying these shops often use non-OEM filters, and that doesnโt automatically ruin your warranty. Their point is that using a different filter brand is usually normal.
Concept
warranty implications of aftermarket vs. OEM parts
People worry that using the โwrongโ parts could cause warranty problems. The hosts are saying you donโt need to panic, but you should understand what youโre doing and keep up with proper maintenance.
Term
aftermarket catch up
โAftermarket catch upโ refers to the time lag between when a manufacturer changes or locks down a component and when third-party companies produce comparable alternatives. The hosts use it to explain why OEM parts can stay expensive for a while before cheaper options appear.
Term
magneson
Theyโre using a magnet to pull small internal pieces out of the filter. Itโs a trick to make the job easier and keep parts from getting lost.
A reusable oil filter is one you can take apart and clean instead of throwing away. The goal is to get the inside really clean so it can filter oil properly again.
Term
90 stream
Theyโre making a little extension so the spray comes out at a 90-degree angle. That helps you clean the inside of the filter without struggling to aim the can.
The Toyota Supra is a sports car made by Toyota. Itโs designed to be fast and fun to drive, and many owners like to modify them for better performance. In a conversation, it might be brought up because people often talk about ways to upgrade or customize it.
โMeshโ is the material inside the filter that physically blocks particles as oil goes through. If itโs too restrictive or gets dirty, it can clog and force oil to go around the filter.
These are the common disposable oil filters you replace when they get dirty. The hosts are saying they may still have a bypass, but you canโt service them to restore filtration the way you might with a rebuildable design.
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Oscar in the house. We're talking about lubrication. Welcome back you freaking
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The main topic today, we've already mentioned a little bit, but throw away oil filters like your
paper filters versus reusable serviceable oil filters for Harley Davidson. We're going to,
it's Micron talk day. Oh, my. That's why I pulled Oscar in here. And it's good to have you back on
a mic, brother. It's good to be here. It's really good to be here. I know the audience misses you.
We're trying. We're just, Oscar can tell you things have changed around lawbinding biker media.
Really trying to get podcasts scheduled and get people on the mics. We're just so busy with
operations and shipping products and answering emails and helping customers. And I'm making
videos and I'm promoting and I'm flying around for Harley and Indian. And it's just kind of a mess.
So it's not because I know the audience misses you. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you audience.
Obviously, Oscar is a wealth of knowledge and he loves researching stuff. And he's an,
he is really into oil. We've done past episodes on synthetic oils and used oil analysis. And so
I figured this is a great one for Oscar because it's something that came up. So we're going to
be talking about that. We're coming out with a lot of new free videos on the YouTube channel,
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patreon all right so here we go I just want to set this up a little bit so that
we know and then we're gonna loosely follow some we've done a lot of
research that's what we do we don't want to be wrong we reference stuff we're
also gonna break this down so it makes sense we're gonna maybe get in the
rabbit hole a little bit we're also gonna break it down what do you actually
need to know so here's here's the setup so we recently put out a within the
last couple weeks I put out a banger video I'll just say that because it's
got like 50,000 views right now it blew up and I've got on tiktok I put a
short out on Instagram this this is blowing up beyond our wildest dreams
it's a company that we're very close with we talk to weekly I know them well
we work very close on inventory with them and sales and things like that and
that is figurati designs making banger products I mentioned their axle nut
covers up front in this podcast so I put out the figurati reusable magnetic oil
filter all right and that video like I said blew up you really need it at any
time you want I suggest if you haven't seen it go over to figurati oil filters
in the store scroll to the bottom of the listing please watch the video it's
very very detailed and it's gonna bring together a lot of what we're gonna talk
about in this podcast we're also gonna mention another brand reusable oil
filters so don't worry it's not just about figurati it's more about oil
filtration and reusable filters and things like that but I put out that
video and like always just a few keyboard warriors and they get on and they
want to try to act smart sitting in their mom's basement with their wiener in
one hand and their keyboard in the other and the cheetos in the other cheetos in
the other yeah and they want to start throwing out stuff that they have no
idea what they're talking about because they want to look smart in front of
everybody and we burn them we're very nice on the comments but I had a canned
response and lightly made them look a little bit stupid not you know it just
but it was very professional it's just you're wrong and they don't know what
they're talking about and so they would bring up things like well you know the
figurati only it has 25 microns and the OEM filters say 10 and so I'm using OEM
and what are you talking about anyways like I said 99% of the comments like
always you're positive and everybody understood but you got a few idiots like
that and unfortunately the idiots but I kind of like the idiots because then
what they spurred me to do is go okay yeah we're gonna do a whole podcast on
this I'm gonna research this and I'm really gonna put you in your place and
also I'm gonna do a video on this it's spurred a video so I actually don't mind
those idiots sometimes they bring up stuff and go you know if they have a
few questions you know even though they're idiots they deserve to be
educated too that's what we're here for so we are gonna educate people and by so
that that's kind of what spurred it so I got a whole Oscar and I started doing a
lot of research and I mean Oscar was down to read in white papers and I got a
little carried away when you want somebody to research something Oscar's
your guy and we love it it actually feeds your brain it really put it all
together and finally figured it all out and go okay this is the best way to
present this yeah and these this is what I'm presenting to you guys is factual
I want you have no idea the links that we go into at home I'll work all day in
the store and then I'll spend hours at night putting this together Oscar knows
I did a whole document here yeah I have all my resources and sources saved I I'm
I'm very careful about what I put out I want to make sure when I do put it out
that it's correct information so we're gonna talk about that microns and we're
gonna talk about oil filters and and some of your options obviously but
anyways I just wanted to test that up and of course we've got the Figurates
Oscar how a Figurati oil filter sales been going lately because I do they're
doing well and I have one and they are awesome like they're awesome so and
they're yes we're sending a ton out it's like insane Figurati makes a really
solid product yeah like there's a lot of stuff that comes and goes but yes and
everything they keep making is solid it is solid looks cool yes like I look at
and I go nothing looks he knows how to design he really guys amazing carry over
there the owner I know him well I'm on the phone with them quite often like I
say we are their preferred reseller in North America I will tell you that right
now and we have stuff in stock so what guys don't know is sometimes like right
now the black oil filters out of stock yeah so we just tell people in our
emails it's back ordered you're on in line and Figurati doesn't have them either
we're talking to them Figurati will not so you can see if it's out of stock on
our site trust me it's out of stock on Figurati they don't roll that way as
soon as they get them in stock we'll have them in stock at the same exact moment
we have we have shipments coming so and nobody else has them we've been selling
them so fast nobody else has those for up for sale so that I'm aware of I know
one of the big guys bought some but they sold out and they don't have an even
re-upped so they are completely out too so worthy we are their preferred dealer
we know about him we use them we love him and we can talk to you about him we
do videos on him so anyways Oscar with that I have some loose notes that's why
I made the video I'm just gonna go through these okay so I made it to page
37 in the document and then I was like oh I don't have enough time yeah this is
a you never make loose notes no well it's not loose notes are squared away but
I will be doing a complete talking head video on this guys but it'll be a much
more succinct you're gonna get more information here but some people don't
listen the podcast so we put it in both places so why don't you look at the first
section here and kind of explain this because you did some research on you
know the big takeaway these things have been around for a while serviceable so
let's talk about let's just start there and we are knowledge on this I mean
well serviceable oil filters which means they're reusable guys right and and
the figure out is not the only style but these are used in massive industrial
operations like so it's not just a it's not just figure out east thing or you
know wire mesh filters for like sports applications or whatever and it's been
around forever and there are billion dollar companies using these style of
filters a serviceable filters so it's not a like a novel Harley Davidson
motorcycle thing it's a worldwide well I can't say worldwide but at least in the
Pacific North in the West it's a big deal United States I look at a Canadian
company that's making these mag not not this style but a magnetic reusable and
it is amazing those are the white papers I was reading them like holy cow these
are going to machines that are you know a million dollars and so it's not new
like Miami means yeah the style of filtration has been used in racing
aviation and other things guys I will tell you once you start reading the
next section because that's what I'm going to go to but I want to tell you
that PC racing flow a lot of you are familiar with it they're here American
company I will tell you that PC racing has actually had a very similar reusable
filter on the market for a long time we actually sell it here in the lobbying
biker store we were selling it before figurati I just never got around to
doing a video on it if you're a PC racing flow fanboy and I like him I
don't say that lightly some people just get stuck on a brand and they like it I
get that I'll gladly sell you a PC racing we sell all three colors that they
offer they are reusable but I think you're gonna find out in this that
figurati basically took a design again they didn't copy PC racing like Justin
said they've been around for other aviation has been making them the what
figurati did is what figurati doesn't they took something and made it ten
times better they made it better they made it way better they made it look
better they made it function better they that you'll find out they they has
things that the PC flow does not have that does not mean I'm bad talking PC
flow I don't want any haters if you like that filter it's a great reusable
filter go buy it right now at the time of the spot gets it's a it's about 20
dollars cheaper than the figurati right but we're gonna go through why the
figurati kind of comes out on top because we need to because we're
comparing oil filters and flow and things like that so moving into what
we're comparing here are you able to take this right here and start talking
about some of this sure what do you want absolute versus nominal or my I think
we talk about it all what we're comparing so what we're talking about let
me set it up for you what I want you to go on is okay what do let's just talk
about re serviceable filters and what the benefits are to him we're gonna start
talking about microns we're gonna start talking about how they test them what
nominal is what absolute is what figurati claims and or what they actually
tested what PC roast it's all right here so this is what we're so let's just dive
in and go for it however you want to roll with it I mean like you know
everyone knows the spin-on oil filter this way you go to jiffy lube or
whatever you get a spin-on oil filter they're cheap to make most of them now
are made of synthetic media although there's still a lot of paper media out
there so filters like that okay yeah and and the synthetic filter if you look at
it a microscopic level level has the you know the best way it's almost like
looking at your hair like a girl's hair the long hair at a microscopic level
that's kind of what these look like and that's what this catching these
particles right and so synthetic has a better mesh than paper okay just like
synthetic air filters are a little bit better at catching more dirt than paper
air filters but paper air filters are super common okay so that's the biggest
thing is they're cheap they're easy to make and they're easy to mass produce
yep but if you notice so serviceable filters have some way to take them apart
and clean them and there's various forms from magnets like the one I looked at
that I'm really interested in is a magnet only there's no dirt bike site this
is not hardly well this is a it's a commercial industrial the company makes
commercial industrial but they started making them for dirt bikes which for
dirt bikes I just want to make sure that what you're talking about is not for
Harley guys right just referencing it okay yeah right so it's some kind of
filter that comes apart that's serviceable meaning you can clean it and
these all the as far as I can tell all of the aftermarket serviceable ones have
magnets now that's nothing new either people have been putting magnets on the
throwaway filters forever but it's not necessarily as effective as having the
magnets inside the medium or inside the filter right so that all the magnet on
the outside of a serviceable throwaway filter how's that throw it there you
throw away just trying to pull the particles to the outside of the media
it's trying to right yeah but the oil is not going over around or touching the
magnets yep so the most extreme that I found was that Canadian company where
the magnets immersed in the oil and it's literally stripping particles the
oil's passing over and around the magnet yeah okay so the serviceable filters
then have magnets like figurades those are inside you know not on the outside
you can't stick them on there they're like they're part of the filter so that's
a big advantage because the magnets inside not outside and you can clean it
so then you start looking at like how much you pay for a figurati versus like
I use Amzol products well I'm not using Amzol filter on my bike anymore but
other than that I use Amzol products on my truck my car whatever so if I looked
at their filters about 10 of them would equal a figurati so everything after 10
mm-hmm starts to become I'll call it free but I'm not paying for it anymore yeah
so that's the other bonus to the serviceable filters is if and especially
if they cross years of bikes so if I have an 18 and then I buy my 20 or I had a
13 21 yeah by 26 if that filter goes with me then I'm saving money in the
long run so that's so when I was reading about these Canadian company that was
one of the biggest product bonuses for their serviceable filters is you have
this million dollar machine that's doing oil change they're doing oil changes or
whatever filter changes every 5,000 hours and these things are going a million
hours yeah so you see it hard to see where some of these gigantic throwaway
filters and then you get a little bit in the back end you save some garbage
right because oil filters you crush them they recycle them or whatever but you
just don't have to do that anymore so when you first talk to me about this I'm
like oh the micron rating I didn't really I never really paid attention I'd
seen the language absolute versus nominal but I never really paid attention
to it because I never paid attention to it so that's one of the I'm glad we did
this yeah I might do same here yeah so let me before we move into microns the
other benefits to a reusable filter in the kid this case let's just reference
figurati is you have a higher flow rate yeah which is good yes okay let's get to
that we'll get to that so remember that and we can break that down so higher
flow rate and reusable cleanable and like he says you know in the long run you
know you're gonna save money when it money especially if you take it to the
next bike now they also have cooling fins both flow and figurati have cooling
fins on the outside that's something your stock OEM and you all know just to
make sure your stock OEM is that black or chrome when you get it's fluted so it's
got like 14 flutes on the outside so you can get an oil filter wrench on it yeah
take it off you throw it away you put a new one on so there's a few different
benefits I will tell you actually we'll get into it about the bypass later yeah
because that's a figurati that is important yeah so yeah when so we're
gonna dive in if it works Oscar to micron rating so here's the deal and then
Oscar's gonna pick it up here so figurati says that they are here I'm gonna
put this out there and then you're gonna you're gonna explain what this means so
here's here's here's I am in contact with figurati they rated their reusable
oil filter the mesh it's a stainless steel mesh filter screen that is what
we're rating at 20 only the screen right at 25 microns absolute right remember
that absolute and then they rated PC racing flow publishes a 10 micron
nominal so again figurati 25 microns absolute PC publishes 10 micron
nominal all right the OEM 35 micron absolute and the OEM filters are
claiming somewhere they don't even know exactly but like let's just call it 10
five that I saw five at one point well they say five to ten all of them I did a
yeah okay so it's probably 10 all right is that nominal I can't remember that's
nominal yeah that's nominal it is yeah this is this is gonna get fun yeah so
with that said now that I've explained that now Oscar is going to start cleaning
up what 25 microns absolute is versus 10 microns nominal and 35 microns absolute
because it's this is what guys put on comments and I'm like yeah they don't
even put absolute they just that's the problem is the hang-up is guys just go
oh 25 microns with figurati oh shit and the regular one the regular throwaways
are 10 oh I'm there's no way I can run a 25 and they don't know right anything
what they're fucking talking about because you're gonna find out that
regardless of what OEM says the figure out he's filtering better and so is the
pfc in my opinion but remember that these two filters first I want to say the
figurati we'll discuss it in a little bit more it has five magnets as for 2700
gauze rare earth neodymium magnets mm-hmm for on the kind of on the outside of the
internal filter not the housing but the actual inside and then right inside in
the bypass system they've got a 2800 gauze magnet the pc flow filter has one
magnet on the filter it's not in the bypass system it's just one on kind of
the outside of the internal mesh filter now they do not even publish anywhere
how many gauze their magnet is so I just want you to keep that in mind as we
continue this discussion now Oscars can go with the micron please do this
first case you gotta keep his brain smoking I know that of the head is full
I love talking like it's been a while since we did this I know these
conversations they're fun okay so remember you are getting a constant
stream of dirt into your motor via the air filter so we're talking about will
filters but it's already coming into the motor so right then and there the
auto manufacturers I'm just gonna call the auto manufacturers gonna cover
everyone already have acceptable tolerances because they can't filter the
air well enough to get all the dirt out okay so you already have silicates
silicate is the main pollutant in oil that's non-metallic
silicate it's cross the board so I did I used to do oil analysis and you see
silica levels and they should hold constant because of the air filter you're
using and so the oil cut like a black stone will tell you hey your silica
levels really high you have an oil leak somewhere or not sorry you have an air
leak somewhere so the is it silicate silicate and that is explain that to me
it's dirt it's a really brave abrasive form of dirt got you but just what
gets through it's what gets through what causes where one of the things that
cause where and then in the motor itself you have moving parts so you have iron
ferrous material basically iron in the motor okay and then so when you do it
well analysis like a lab like blackstone or there's a bunch of them will track
iron levels and then you that'll be data for your car so every time you do one
they're looking at past and what you have now right and they're going okay
oh so silica and iron level should stay pretty stable if your cars running good
and using a good oil and doing all that stuff so okay this is why this microns
is important so Amsoil claims a 20 micron absolute that and so and figure
out he says 25 the industry standard and soil filter filter oil filter okay
thanks so they're re they're they're throw away throw away 20 the industry
in the store by the way to yeah and the industry standards like 15 to 35 ish 35
is a little on the big side a micron is a big number means a big particle yeah a
little number means a little particle and what was amsoil at their 20 they're
throw away thank you there's always a 20 there's some letters that can catch a
little smaller particles but right mostly 20 to 30 is about the industry
standard and you can go to any of the manufacturers website and they'll tell
you Fram or whatever remember there's only like three or four filter makers so
so Fram actually might make their own I can't remember but Maley MAHLE they
make a lot of oil filters for a lot of automotive companies like they're a big
oil filter maker okay so microns so you have these particles of dirt and iron
in there and they're moving around and they're captured in the oil most of it
is captured in the oil so it doesn't necessarily go and contaminate your
bearings or the piston linings or anything like that or that I'm sorry the
cylinder linings and scuff the cylinders or anything like that most of it's kept
in the oil runs through the motor goes through the filter oil filter the oil
filter okay so 25 micron absolute means that so for instance figure out
he's 25 micron absolute means that certain percentage of the time in this
case they say 98 or 99% I don't know it's high it's super high most of the
industry standard for absolute is 95% plus yes so let's say I think it was 90
I can't remember probably 98 yes 99 yeah let's just say 98% 98% of the time the
figure out he filter is catching particles at 25 microns and larger okay
so I was like well why does HD I had several hits just to disassemble Google
hit why is HD 5 microns nominal oh okay so nominal is that that HD filter will
catch five micron particles I read some industry papers yes five okay fine I saw
five I'm stuck on five most of them that I research are all five to ten because
they don't say really yeah that's fine just so I was reading industry papers
like machinery lubrication stuff and and so the one to three micron particles are
probably the most damaging but no one can catch them and they're not really
damaging like we think okay okay so nominal means that that Harley filter is
catching ten micron particles right but I was like okay so Amzell says 98.7 and
figure out he I think was 98 some of these other places are 95 and 98 right why
is a why is HD and it was mainly I can't remember who it is now or maybe it is
mainly and why are they not saying 10 microns 98% of the time nominal just
means the filter will catch 10 micron particles yes let me say this real quick
this will clean it up a little bit too in biker so nominal rating is kind of
like saying yeah this felt so let's see this filter catches a good amount of
particles around that size okay could be 50% right could be 30% correct it's not
98% and a absolute rating is more like saying no this filter is stopping
almost all particles at that size under the stated test and bigger yes and bigger
yes it's it's kind of a second it makes more sense in my brain because I'm not
smart as you well I mean basically nominal says look okay we're gonna catch
10 micron particles we're not gonna tell you how often so if if they say it's
50% that means 50% of type 10 micron particles and larger are floating around
all the time right figure out he's not 98% they're catching 25 micron
particles almost all the time so now you're left with everything smaller right
nominal is a word trick it doesn't really mean correct you're looking for
absolute efficiency here's why that's important remember you're chronically
getting dirt into your motor from the air filter if you had a 10 micron absolute
filter you'd have to change the oil filter like every 500 miles got you or it
goes see this is interesting this is they this is why this is and you'd be
driving along and all of a sudden you'd get a like well what would happen then
your bypass would trip you would go into bypass which means filtering none of the
oils filter right so then all of the micron particles are going through the
motor and you'd have to stop in some podunk town somewhere and get an oil
filter change this is good see I didn't think of it this way so I love this dude
yeah if you went 10 micron absolute yeah it would just plug all bypass and you'd
never be filtering anything yep dude you get no wonder you don't see that you
10 micron absolute what a bunch of exactly yeah you guys see where we're
going with us why these idiots every the few online they just don't the that's a
it's a trick on words it is and I will tell you this not all micron ratings are
measured or reported the same way they're not as we're learning different
percentages that so you can't just throw those words out there and I know
exactly you got to look into it and figure out and you won't really need to
with companies because they're making good shit like figure out in PC flow yes
you know but if it's something you order on ebay that says 25 I would not get
that you know what I mean be careful or Amazon I would get a quality name so you
know they're actually doing proper tests that's not gonna you know right we know
you won't do that so yeah that's what it comes down to in the very end and look
let's face it my my lawnmower sitting in my shed right now I've never changed the
oil and it has no oil filter so you know that was one of the things we talked
about our lines guys are getting caught up in the size of the particle well if
that was the case my oil my lawnmower should be dead by now right the
auto manufacturers Harley and all dirt bikes whatever there's tolerances built
in and they're balancing consumer convenience not getting oil filter
changed every week with longevity right so like you know if you figure you know
my Dodge truck goes now the new the diesels with death are going to say
15,000 miles on an oil change so that filter is going 15,000 miles and it's
not going into bypass shouldn't write and and it's fine and they're in the
wear level so when I did oil analysis all the time I was seeing stable wear
metals now like on my wife's car it's a 2018 Yukon the total base number at about
9500 miles would start to fall off that's a different issue that means the
oil is getting acidic and then it's a different issue but the wear metals
were holding stable stable which so what the reason that's important is because
if the 3 to 10 micron thing was important then you would always see wear
metals always going up because those little tiny microns are continuously
causing wear they're shaving the cylinder lining they're shaving the bearings
and where is continually going up then motors die that's not what happens
silicates and and iron stay stable unless you do have engine problems or you
don't change your oil ever or it's low or whatever if you have normal oil
pressure and your oils you know you change it regularly or whatever your
wear metals and your silicates will stay stable and everything's fine and
your car will run you know whatever should be right you know they know yeah
it's gonna go 300,000 okay this one not so much right okay but they know they
know what motors they build motors that are junk and some that aren't so if you
like so it's easy to go down the rabbit hole and get like anxiety about oh my
gosh it's 25 microns and this this filters 20 but this one's 15 or whatever
and then some of the really expensive like industrial equipment they do have
lower they'll catch lower part smaller particles but then again they're going
60 times the number that are 18 uconn is going right so this like one of the
white papers I read was on these those giant dump trucks they use in like mines
those ones that are massive and they have that they're like a 50-yard dump and
those things are going 250,000 hours they're not they'll measure mileage
because only going right you know how back and forth right but they're going
for 10 years because they're a million dollars a piece yeah so it's like all
right you know are you cons not going to get right thousand right so they might
use a 15 micron dual filter mmm so the other that's the other thing is so if
indeed that is that was such a big deal then like for my truck I can get a dual
bypass filter setup so you can buy a filter that's a 10 micron absolute and
then the regular filter and what it'll do is it'll say it'll run a part of the
oil through the 10 micron and a part through the regular filter the 25 or
the 20 okay and so it's it's picking up 10 micron stuff but now you have two
filters to change and you have to change the and so when the 10 micron plugs it
goes into bypass and runs back through the regular filter yeah and so you have
to change some of them a little more often okay but that's not possible in
our Harleys you can't have two right right well it was going all over
normal they just don't do that on automobiles either it makes no sense it
doesn't right it doesn't overkill it is way overkill so not so nominal versus
absolute is really you really want to look at on the well filters 25 microns
figurati is well within the industry standard and the magnets okay so did you
read that okay so there's a filter that caught my it's a dirt bike filter now
caught my attention I'd never seen this before and I was like how the Frick does
this filter work how does it pick up silicates they're not ferrous so what
they are so then that led me to the maker of that filter which is this
Canadian company and they explained how their filters work basically inside the
oil these particles are bouncing around and the non ferrous particles like
silicate are crashing into the ferrous particles and they're getting they're
being charged so they've got negative I should have printed that off but it was
but it's well beyond what we need to cover either way either way either way
you have particles that aren't ferrous that aren't iron being charged in the
oil sump and then basically being caught by the ferrous particles and both of
them are being picked up by the magnets and I'm like bro that is brilliant so
the magnets then can catch smaller particles and not going to bypass
because they're the oils not passing through them it's passing over or around
them and so that you can get really high flow rates but keep really good
filtration and that's the basis of that one for the in the Canadian companies
just a magnet but it's it but it creates poles yeah it's it's crazy as well
beyond when you get to it was I really it's really interesting I love it but it
is but it's too much so let's magnets or yes let's do this I've got to fix a
little something here there we go all right so let's talk a little bit about
let's so I like a lot of that I love listening did I get careful I'm in
thrall no I am I just love I'm just trying to place it all but let's clean
this up a little bit so let's do testing dumb down and we haven't even got into
the magnets net so that explains micron so everything we've just talked about
our numbers that what the actual mesh filter stainless steel mesh filter and
reusable or a paper or whatever right it's it's what just it has nothing to do
with the magnets that is just the the filter so as you can see you cannot just
stare at one number and assume you understand the whole picture right and
you can't it's so much to this and this is where the keyboard warriors think
they're smart and they read one stupid forum article and they think they know
about oil filters so that's what we're here for so let's dumb the testing down
a little bit so I'm going to put this in simple terms for you guys the oil
filter testing basically they run contaminated fluid through the filter
they measure what goes in they measure what comes out and they see what the
filter actually captures under certain test conditions that's the dumb down
version guys that's basically it okay so there's more to it than that that's a
dumb down version so obviously when people start throwing around these
micron numbers without talking about you know whether it is nominal or absolute
or what kind of test method was used and what the filter actually captured in
that test that's where things get goofy fast guys as you are already heard and
that's why I keep saying you can't just take one number you can't wave it around
like it's trophy and act like the whole discussion is over alright so now I want
to dive in Oscar because now you understand microns you understand the
filter tests and all that now remember we're going to start talking about
figurati mm-hmm so we've got a 25 micron absolute stainless steel mesh filter
alright that does not include the magnets so here's a couple things and
then jump in where you want but what I like about the figure audience is not
just a stainless steel filter like I said it's a complete system you've got
remember this goes for the PC to but your remember it has one magnet and they
claim 35 nominal and 10 absurd 35 absolute and 10 10 nominal so you've
got a 25 micron absolute stainless steel mesh screen in the figure out you've
got four external 2700 gals they're not external they're actually inside the
housing but they're on that outside of the actual stainless steel mesh filter
but the oil goes right by it it's all circulating so I don't I may have
misspoke that so you've got I'm going to say for I'm going to change this to
internal because I got to do this okay so then you've got another internal in
the bypass system which we're going to talk about 2800 gals neodymium magnets
so you've got five magnets total working with the 25 micron absolute mesh
filter on top of that so with that said you can't basically what that means
guys is you're not testing the magnets they're only testing the mesh filters
right so figure Audi says that that gets it down to if you want to do it in
microns it would you're guessing that it would be around 10 easy probably and so
if that makes sense you're adding the mesh with the magnets you can't really
test the magnets because a filter you can isolate and you know just what's
going through the magnets the oils just circulating around them so it may or
may not catch something maybe it'll catch it on the nest pass so it's very
hard to test that but like he said if it was a 10 micron absolute mesh filter
that would plug in your bypass would kick in yeah now that's right so let's
explain a bypass to you I will tell you figure out he's the only one with a
serviceable bypass that you can take apart I did not know that I know yeah
that's kind of cool PC flow filter has a bypass system but it is not you cannot
take it apart and service it you just kind of have to clean in there around it
you can't take it out and clean it and so that's what I really like about the
figure like I said they took something made it really really awesome so what
is a bypass basically if you go watch my video there's a spring a bearing there's
another spring in there and basically what that does is and one of the magnets
the 20 enter gauze is in the actual bypass system down in the middle of the
filter and that's very strong magnet so basically what a bypass is we likely
mentioned it but basically like he says if something happens in your system or
your filter plugs or you don't clean it soon enough it basically this one is 15
psi once it realizes that pressure it's gonna move the spring it's gonna open
it up there's a ball bearing and it's gonna allow the filter the oil to stop
going through the filter and go around it so it can continue to lubricate your
engine that's better than no oil at all even though it's not filtered oil right
and it will at least get you by yeah you will say you wouldn't know what's
happening use the sad thing right you would not you would not know yeah you
don't want to get to that point no you should not but it's there so you don't
blow your engine right remember we've got cooling fins on the outside the OEM
don't have so you're getting some oil cooling there reusable design and here's
one of the big takeaways from reusable filters that we didn't mention up front
you take out your OEM paper filter you have you can inspect it right it's you
throw in the garbage right these you actually open up and you can see from
the magnets you can see from the mesh filter because you're cleaning all of it
what's going on and how much metal that you're capturing now that could be an
early warning sign for something going on in your motor that could be
catastrophic that you could get on top of before it goes catastrophic because you
can actually fucking see yeah what is going on in your motor so that's huge to
me same with your dipsticks your figure out a magnetic dipstick you may start
catching some particles well before an oil change yeah on those little magnets
that you take out those you can just pull your dipstick out anytime ago oh
fuck that's some pretty big you see a lot of stuff on you like what the yeah
you might there's a lot of mud on those guys what I call it you'll get a lot of
that that's normal yeah it's all the shit your filters not catching it is right
and it's all really it's like really fine metal shavings and mud and you can
wipe it off on a dipstick anytime you want it's great I'm talking about if you
saw like chunks and shards now you're you know you might want you have some
other shit going on so that's what's nice with the dipsticks and at least at
service changes you can check your filter and see what's going on so you have a
magnet on the drain plug for the exact same reason right that catches the
really really big stuff so you pulled it except for it kind of has to drop to the
bottom a little bit when it's big that's it's for the heavy stuff yeah that's
for the heavy stuff the heavy stuff will not float as much you'll drop to the
bottom and the magnet picks up some of it and the filter picks up some of it so
if you see yeah you open that figure out and you see big chunks then there's a
problem yeah right after the first two or three thousand miles you should not see
any real right big metal in there right and that's the beautiful part being able
to pull your dipstick out anytime see what's going on in your motor and then
at services being able to inspect this so I say it's a full filtration and
protection package I say it's I won't ride my Harley without one again
honestly now that I have it I wish I didn't know about it before but we kind
of did with PC flow just I never got around to doing a video but you've got
Mel's mesh filtration you've got magnetic capture you've got inspectability
you've got service ability you've got cooling none of that on your stock OEM
filter it just is what it is and of course figure outie you've got a beautiful
billet housing that looks amazing on the bike and that matters to me too of
course so very few parts in my opinion are functional and beautiful yeah and
this one hits both so figure outie specifically has seven colors silver
black purple blue red orange and gold which I put on my bike of course so yes
you get the protection the function and aesthetics I love that about the figure
outie so let's go ahead and jump into this a little bit I think we've kind of
covered this yeah I pretty much covered it so you all know about the the PC row
again PC flow we'll gladly sell it to you nothing wrong with that product but
10 micron nominal 35 absolute one magnet we don't know how strong it is and a
non-surfaceable bypass but it is you can clean it you can reuse it three colors
to choose from polished aluminum black and black with polished fins they do
look different they're kind of figure outies fins look different you know so
look at them see what you think but at least it gives you some options and
again I'll sell you either I don't care they're both great products now one
place where figure outie like I said definitely stands apart is that
serviceable bypass and I really like that so let's do what else do you want to
up about the filters we show you in my video if you go over there to the video
and you scroll down I also show you how to it comes apart in like 15 seconds yeah
it comes with a little key you can unscrew it it's just a little Allen head
key and you unscrew it the bypass system comes out and you grab a microfiber
cloth you grab some parts cleaner and you spray it out remember when you're
cleaning filters you want to spray inside out parts cleaner that kind of stuff
and you can also a lot of guys we have them coming for stock so does figure
outie is the internal filter that's on the housing you can replace it here's
what most guys do is because when you're doing an oil change you might be in a
hurry and so what you can do is take the filter housing off pop the actual
internal mesh stainless steel screen and the bypass and all that and you can
just take the dirty one throw it in a can of parts cleaner grab your new fresh
one that you clean last time is ready to go pop up the housing put it back on
and you're down the road and then you can come back whenever you want and clean
up the other one in the parts cleaner and have it ready to go for the next oil
change exactly what he's yeah that's the way to go yeah that's freaking cool you
can't use water if you want to finish off with parts cleaner but then you do
need to make sure you let it sit and dry overnight make sure there's no you're
not introducing water into your engine but I'm gonna have both to so I can do
really quick oil changes that's an option and then your kit your figure
Audi oil filter in the case comes to new o-rings for the housing and we sell
with separate here in the store the figure Audi o-rings so you can it's a
pack of 10 I don't know how you don't have to replace those every time no and
if you look at him a hardware store will have correct something similar yeah
yeah exactly so that's a good way but you don't need to replace those every
time I just look at them inspect and make sure they're not chewed up and stuff
but certainly if you're one guy that likes to replace over time we will sell
you 10 pack there's nothing wrong with that so the flow is obviously proven it's
established it has been around a long time it's definitely respectable and we
you know dug into their published published specs and all that but I will
tell you that based on published best specifications we have and I think it's
fair to say the figure Audi appears to offer a stronger overall filtration and
protection looks like yes yeah I would agree yeah yeah you got more magnets
they have a racing background yes and so they're not as concerned with the
smaller particles in a racing application because they're changing and
maybe even rebuilding the motor every you know 10 races or something so they
can go with a little because you do if you go to a higher micron rating you get
even more flow right and in racing applications oil flows is superior to
catching contaminants that makes sense yeah yeah yeah yeah they might even be
rebuilding the motor every other trip or something and so right they are racing
background yes so I get why they the 35 microns that makes perfect sense and
it's within industry standards yes and I still would not worry about using that
on your motor FYI not at all I'm just I'm being objective yeah I'm looking at
the specs on paper right and it seems to filter better but the other one is not
gonna hurt your engine really that the flow is not so right don't get us wrong
we're not we're not trying to push one or the other on you I'm just telling you
this is very objective what we've given you so far in this this is all factual
you can we can back it up you can go research yourself we aren't throwing any
really opinions out yet this point this is very very the only opinion is on the
looks whether you like the look of the PC recent flow that's up to you that's
very subjective but everything else here is factual and objective so let's just
kind of sum up the magnets why magnets matter a little bit we've talked about
a little bit it doesn't the magnets don't replace any filter media it just in
our we say it backs it up it adds to it I'd say it adds to it there you go the
mesh is there to filter those you know particles mechanically the magnets are
there to grab ferrous metal debris moving through the oil system along with
the obviously I say run the dipsticks in combination the figure out he dipsticks
you've got a whole system now and different points and your oils flowing at
different places plus the dipstick just allows you to check the filter you got
it well you don't have to change your way but it's kind of a mess to take it
off and yeah makes a mess with a dipstick you can pull out any time and
just make sure you're not seeing anything and clean it off in that so
obviously the mesh have micron rating the magnets are supplemental filtration
and so when you combine a stainless steel mesh screen with multiple power
from powerful magnets you're attacking cabinet contamination for more than one
direction and to me that's just frickin smart we talked about the
inspectability a lot and what the big thing just look through this to make
yeah I think we've covered all this so what everyday riders should care about
on this guys let's bring it down to earth just a little bit you have anything
else Oscar to jump in any if I mean anything yeah go for it I don't jump in
dude there's some of these guys there's some guys out there some of the
keyboard warriors I'll call that I'm not using that in the drawing terms there
are some people well that's because some of them are right but there are
legitimately people out there that that they just get it in their head yes and
they and they really they just get it in their head right and so just keep it
like if you really are worried about flow or figurati and you're using a
throwaway filter right now grab an oil a sample or two from your bike and send
it off for analysis and then grab the flow and do a couple of oil samples and
see for yourself I mean they're about 40 bucks a piece I have no desire I've
done enough on bikes I the flow or the figure out he's gonna be as good as the
am so I've no doubt about that but that is something you can do if you're one
of those people that gets in your head and you're like shit 25 35 20 do some
oil analysis yeah it's anyone can do it you just pull a sample and send it off
if you're not sure call the company you want to use ask them how to pull a
sample there you they will tell you how to do it some of them will send you free
collection kits all you have to do is pay for the sample itself and like I use
Blackstone Labs they will send you a nice write-up hey and they'll compare your
sample to other bikes or cars of the similar vintage and that some of these
oil sample companies have millions of samples so they're comparing you know my
2021 CBO limited to you know two thousand other 2021 CBO limited or whatever and if
they don't have a big database built up for your particular thing they'll they'll
tell you and then they'll compare it to ones that are close so it yeah might cost
you a couple hundred bucks but if you're really worried just do the little
analysis or or you know it's okay I promise it'll be okay it will trust us
yeah if you guys want to go back what Oscar's talking about and you want to be
fascinated with used oil analysis and testing I was a fun episode bro it was
you educated the shit out of me holy cow that was back so go back to law
biting biker podcast episode number 95 that's lawbitingbiker.com forward slash
nine five and it'll be in your podcast aggregators too but again episode 95
dynacycle semi synthetic oil real-world testing by bikers Amsoil or
dynacycle does it matter is that is that where we did they used oil analysis yes
is it and I remember the I remember when Blackstone came back on the dynacycle
one anyway you can go back and watch the episode but ten years ago bro that's
it's wow let's see I just want to yeah note we were discussed Oscar's recent
analysis sent to Blackstone uses Amsoil yeah yeah yeah so that was oh this is
motorcycle oh that was just a note oh I want to make sure it was 95 let's do
used oil I'm just searching our website has great searchability literally used
oil analysis in the search box yeah we talked about using duty diesel huh yeah
it is it is everything's pointing to episode 95 yeah yeah lawbiting biker
episode 95 that that was a wonderful if you want to know if you actually do
want to do who's used oil analysis you always and all that fascinating we did
it with Amsoil yeah we love Amsoil I still use it we sell it here at the
store but yeah go listen to that episode we're not gonna dig into deep on this
right but yeah we got a couple comments on YouTube a couple guys think they're
so smart I'm not I would not use a they think this is a new filter that's how
stupid they are it's not like it hasn't been around forever yeah like this
technology like I wouldn't use that unless you do a you away and I'd want
10,000 mile and then I would do a you why don't you do a you away and then come
back to me I'm like no you do you do your own fucking you away I'm these have
been run forever you moron I don't say that to people guys we're very
professional in the comments we sometimes we just yeah we just laugh but
yeah if you want to do your own you away then feel free Blackstone labs like you
said you can do that no no affiliation so let me ask you this Oscar this is a
couple questions they're legit quite now they are legit questions yeah because
a lot of people haven't been following us for a long time we've hammered this to
death we have if you've followed us yeah for a long time you may want to tune
out because we've said it so many times but I just got a voicemail this morning
yeah older guy right and here's the question oh that was the that was the
question up front so that's the voicemail up front and let me remind you what
his question was well let's just listen to it again that's what I think so we
can remind the audience of what we were doing
will my 2025 cvo be covered under warranty if I use a figurati oil filter so with
that he didn't really even need to mention that he has a 2026 doesn't matter
doesn't matter this goes all bikes um I'm not putting them down for that he was
just wanting us to know so uh yeah anything with the warranty so
automobile or please explain this again because we do have new listeners and
that's cool Magnus and Moss warranty act when did that come out 19 I can't remember you
keep going I'll look it up Magnus and Moss warranty act is not more than one sentence
essentially says that if auto if an automotive maker we're hardly included um requires you to
use their specific products to maintain uh their warranty they have to pay for it so
like you that would mean then that you couldn't go and buy a fram filter at you know auto zone
or whatever you have to use uh Harley Davidson filters so Harley says you have to use Harley
Davidson filters they have to pay for it they cannot deny your warranty for using aftermarket
filters and that's in Harley's own language if you look up their warranty stuff they have to
because they get sued yes they would so 1975 Magnus and Moss it has been around forever
yeah and you don't have to use OEM Harley parts you know what I mean oil you don't have to use
their oil you don't have to have their dealer do your service your actual oil change you can do it
yourself right so go on yeah yeah anyway so the dealership that is denying your warranty for
something like that then the burden is on them to prove that your aftermarket part caused the
failure a very specific failure that that part is a very it has to be evidence yes very good
evidence of that that is almost impossible to do with oil and filters yes correct there are some
things possible for instance if you put tinfoil with a paper towel inside for your oil filter
right or you ran with no air filter or use an aftermarket air filter that had no medium right
and okay so that's those are all stupid but um yeah right it's like oil related and oil filter
related failures are almost zero so they really don't cause engine related failures like never
changing the oil that causes a lot of problems and there are a lot of 16 to 30 year olds that have
had engine failures because they never checked the oil in their car for you know five years whatever
but as far as you know hardly saying oh just just going in and saying oh it's because your
figure out he filter your motor's dead because your figure out he filter it that's it they're not
push them on that like don't don't walk off and just go oh i can't believe you ask the service
rider like explain to me how the filter because they can't prove that the filter didn't go into
bypass correct they can't prove bypass it's really difficult to do um they would have to send the
filter away for flow testing and it i've never heard of a dealership i know so i have heard of
this would cost them more in attorney's fees and it would be cost stupid it you gotta understand
yeah something they would have to spend to try to prove now if it was something like
yeah like we said it would have to be so obvious that that part like yeah you can't use a tractor
oil fill and even that i but yeah it's ridiculous yeah it's ridiculous and then you tried to
thread it and it leaves it this is ridiculous yeah really and and like a bmw lost a lot of
manufacturers have lost on the magnus and moss warranty act they denied and they've gotten sued
and they lose over and over and over because it's very specific yeah on the parameters of denying
the warranty with aftermarket parts and stuff so so the the very short answer is no here's from the
ftc interesting i could not find a well-known published magazine moss lawsuit centered specifically
on the aftermarket oil fill allegedly causing engine damage and resulted in a reported court
decision of that exact issue it's right because that's straight from the federal trade commission so
there you go ams oil i got an ams oil you know i'm a dealer so i get their magazine or whatever
and they had published this been a while back a case where bmw lost on a magnus and moss warranty
claim they denied a claim and they lost like in whatever state that was at the district court level
so there wasn't a major nationwide lawsuit and yeah i probably didn't know when carrot except
places like ams oil because they face this all the time yep and so yeah the answer is no
if they do or they tried you just have to push them you just have to ask for it's okay
stand in front of the service rider and say explain to me exactly how the oil filter right
caused this problem right they can't and mention the magnus and moss warranty and then you mentioned
dealerships right away know you're a little bit educated then they're going to be like oh
okay this guy is not fucking around yeah now if you went into don't do it like an asshole well but
if you went into seven eleven and bought i'm just and you bought some weird house brand
that didn't have a spec this is this actually happens right so you and and then the oil
collapse which happens and it it burnt your motor up and then you went in under magnus and moss
and you showed them the oil bottle and it said it doesn't there's no spec listed
they can that's not that's legit right they would deny that or you put canola oil or you put
canola oil and the bottle does not say for vehicles yeah okay there's that but i mean because
that's a legit deal because people buy oil off the seven eleven shelf they're passing through
on a trip and they need oil and they buy it off the shelf and they don't look at the back
and it doesn't have any spec if if the if the aftermarket product you're using doesn't meet a
minimum spec and it doesn't publish it then magnus and moss may not apply right they should have
sell that oil yeah well i know i know and i've used that oil yeah i know you do but anyway
so you're not in that boat with figurati they publish the specs it meets a minimum um
did we use did we talk about the was it the astm standard as a there's two or three there's
actually four standards that govern this okay two are national two are international i sent you
the links but oh i did not those are the ones that like the papers are too expensive i i cut
that part out because i didn't want to get too detailed yeah but but as long as it meets a certain
minimum spec it's fine they can't deny it under mags and moss so just use oil that meets the
spec that hardly requires and and figurati's 25 micron absolute meets this that's not a big deal
so your the answer is you're fine you know yep yep you are golden and that's the things people
see this filter and then they're and especially if they don't know these haven't been around a
time reusable filters and they're like well that void moment they jump to it and if you really thought
about it you'd be like hang on hang on like every fucking service you go to like quickie lube that
you take your car through they don't use oem filters and it's not avoiding your warranty right and
that's just another oil for this is no different it's just i think i saw it they're not familiar
with them and they're like oh shit does that void my warranty if you really think about that that
would be basically mean every oil filter that every quickie lube place uses on your car you just
fucked your warranty yeah right it's just another oil filter it's just another oil filter um and so
that's why we're here we're here to educate everybody yep um that this is no different don't
think it's something scary or some backyard hacker and this is just legit like an industry standard
shit that has finally come into motorcycles yeah um because you know it is more expensive up front
yes uh you know and so uh pc racing was doing there's they're like the only two companies
are doing this for hearty davidson so right it's kind of new to the hearty davidson community
and so that's really why i fell in love with figurati when i found i said why didn't i have
this 20 years ago you know why have i been doing throwaway filters and why didn't i know about
i would be like a thousand dollars ahead right now have we had like figurati 10 years ago all my
bikes dude i know oh my god i know it's amazing i want to buy that one filter for the for my dirt
bike but i don't know how far ahead because it's it's even more expensive than this okay like how
far ahead will that take me will it apply to a 29 or 35 or something like that right but the
figurati's are going to go for a while at least harley hasn't changed the oil filter for a god
awful number you know why would they yeah why would they retool that correct well it's harley
okay good point good point just so they can sell their own oem filter yeah and then they have a year
of freedom before after markets catch up they do that shit and they can charge triple the price
right right yeah charge triple the price yeah exactly uh so at the end of the day guys this
isn't we this wasn't about turning every motorcycle right into a lab technician here it's about
understanding enough to at least we just want you to make a smart decision and understand what
you're doing right maintain your bike with confidence stop losing sleep over this bullshit like
oscar did and me i could i researched it a couple nights ago more and i was like for like two hours
i was going through my med microns and this and that i go okay that's when the next morning i
clean this up yeah i was like we need to dumb this down because this is it's out of control it's out
of control dude so yes reusable service oil filters like the figurati and pc racing flow
are safe to use yes they do filter just fine yes they haven't been around a long time and no
they do not automatically void your warranty and when that settled just fucking change your oil and
go frickin ride micron hey micron peace bro micron peace micron peace oh yeah um so let's go down here
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four and he's killing it um oscar's going to go out and ship right now um but uh yeah yeah uh
anything else on closing about oil filters microns anything i mean basically you guys no
just go if you want to get a reusable filter we got the pc flow we got the figurati if you
have any further questions hit us up on the contact form but this should cover it i strongly suggest
now that you've listened to this go over if you haven't go to the figurati filter scroll to the
bottom watch that video i'll show you how easy it is to break down the colors the choices um the
bypass system it's very detailed and you know it's got like 50 000 views now so you guys weren't
here i was here shipping one night and they were out there by the front and i just picked it up and
you took it apart yeah it's easy to figure out isn't it oh look it who doesn't want to be freaking real
cool isn't it i just love taking apart and putting it back to it it's such a beautiful piece it really
is and even taking the the aluminum in filter the mesh the the body of the mesh filter is aluminum
yeah and taking that out with the magneson then you get to take the spring and the ball bearing
the bypass out it's got a little it's got a little colored keys so i didn't even use the key i stuck
my finger in there and i was just doing with it and i and there's only you took the bypass out right
i took everything out the bypass you need the key unless it was really loose the bypass maybe i didn't
take the bypass yeah the bypass you take the spring out with the magnet not just the filter
out of the housing then you actually have to take the bypass apart there's a red key because of the
you have to put it maybe i did i know i took part of it i just took it apart
but it's and it's there's only one way so you can't mess it up yep it's awesome you
need to put it back in a specific way the spring goes one way but yeah i show you in the video
it's really easy it's easy and yeah clean it up with some parts cleaner and degreaser did you
tell them about your trick tell them the trick for the parts cleaner that's cool oh yeah yeah
so one of the things is um is when you're you know you have the reusable filter
and you want to spray it from inside out right and so you get a can of parts cleaner degreaser
and you want to spray it it's kind of hard to get in there yeah it's a straw straight because a straw
straight so what you can do is just get another cap to another can and put your straw in just
normal and then put that other push cap you know the thing that sprays and put that on the other
end of the straw now you have a 90 that is such a that's a cool and so you can yeah it is a cool
hack just a little little a shop hack there for you guys so that way you can get a 90 stream
going in there and you don't have to angle it so you better show that on the video uh you know
i didn't i was going to dude and then the video got a little long okay and i always got to cut
certain stuff out i like to keep yeah but it but it was originally i talked about it and shot
then i i cut it mad but here that's the podcast you get extra information a little bit extra something
Oscar it's awesome i'm glad you're having me in here again it was so fun i appreciate you taking
the time to help me research and you told me stuff that i you went deeper than me on some of it
i saw some of it and then i purged it because i was like that's what's great about us together
that's true because i can bring it back here a little bit and then you can take it a little bit
deeper um the interesting one of the most interesting points to me was what i didn't really think about
and i'm like duh that makes sense that they wouldn't make the 10 micron absolute right because it
would fucking plug yeah so if you see that you that's why you're not going to see that right
with a mesh that's why they put the magnets too because they don't affect the flow rate that's
the beautiful part about the magnets right yep the mesh can be at 25 your magnets can be as
strong as they fucking want it's not going to affect the flow of your oil at all so you're not
going to activate your bypass system right exactly yep another question some people ask
as we're wrapping it up here is okay great the pc racing flow has a bypass system it's none
you can't take it apart but it bypasses the figurati has a bypass serviceable system sure
do regular throwaway paper mesh filters have a bypass system well not a serviceable one but
yes they do have a bypass but it's not serviceable and i don't think it there's no filtration the
point is there's no filtration right so having the magnet in the figurati one gets you something oh
true see there you go see as we continue this is right so even if you bypass with the figurati
you've at least still got metal pulling out the big shit yes exactly that's yes yes and with a
paper filter yeah if it bypasses then you got zero fucking you got no magnets no paper filter
nothing so you see what i mean yeah we just keep talking about this you bring up good points it's
fun dude i love those are great points i love having any brother thanks buddy we gotta get you in here
more now that we have this set up at the we've got two podcast studios now guys um one is out at
the loud buddy biker studio and we do live events there we've got cameras we've got three microphones
a bigger mixer more space but we're doing a lot of the podcast we set up a week we turned my office
here really quick it takes me about 15 minutes i can set it up we've got professional mics and
mixtures and but it's only good for two people right and we don't have cameras so we don't do live
video broadcast here but it's much easier for us because oscar's in here uh four days a week uh and
once on the weekend and two during the week but we can get oscar now that we got the setup to just
come in on some subject matter and just have a good podcast so we gotta get you back out of the
studio i miss the three of us yeah i miss doing it these are fun yeah they are awesome guys we
appreciate you thanks for tuning in and i hope that you learned a lot in this episode about oil
filtration and i know i know way more than i did after researching it than i did me too and i'm happy
me too and i'm gonna do a follow-up video on it on youtube talking head just going over some of the
main points and it'll be real real succinct like you can expect from a youtube video and uh with
that said quit worrying about filtering your fucking oil just ride just get out there and ride we
took care of this nonsense for you that's nonsense
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About this episode
A deep dive into Harley-Davidson oil filtration, focusing on reusable serviceable oil filters versus throwaway paper filters. The hosts break down micron ratings, explaining the difference between nominal and absolute, and why a 25-micron absolute reusable filter can still make sense when paired with strong magnets and a bypass system. They also compare Figurati and PC Racing Flow filters, discuss flow rate, inspection benefits, and how reusable designs can help spot metal debris before problems get worse.
In this episode, we tackle one of the hottest debates in the Harley-Davidson community: throwaway paper motorcycle oil filters versus reusable motorcycle oil filters. We break down the confusion surrounding micron ratings, nominal versus absolute filtration, and why comparing one filter's numbers to another without context can be misleading. Instead of getting lost in internet comment wars, this episode explains oil filtration in plain biker language so everyday riders can make smarter maintenance decisions with confidence.
We also take a close look at two of the most talked-about reusable options on the market: the Figurati and the PC Racing FLO oil filters. From stainless mesh filtration and cooling fins to magnetic debris capture and serviceable designs, we compare what each system brings to the table. We discuss why oil flow matters just as much as filtration, how overly restrictive filters can create problems, and why reusable filters have been trusted in racing and demanding applications for decades.
Finally, we bust the common myth that aftermarket oil filters automatically void your Harley warranty, explaining what federal law and Harley's own warranty language actually say. We also explore the added benefits of inspectable filters, magnetic dipsticks, and building a complete contamination-control system for your motorcycle. Whether you're already running a reusable filter or just curious about making the switch, this episode gives you the facts you needโwithout the hypeโso you can stop stressing over microns and get back to riding.
