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Hello and welcome to the Fast and the Curious Gold.

This is a celebration of some of our favorite moments over the past three seasons.

I am Betty Glover.

This is Christian Hughgill.

Gold!

Always believe in your soul.

In your soul!

You've got the power to know.

You're indestructible.

Always believing, we are gold, first and carrier's gold.

Today, Christian, we're talking.

Don't worry, we're not going to do that for every episode.

Don't worry, that was a special for the first.

I think on episode seven, it would start to get old.

Yeah, I might wear a little thin that.

I'll tell you who is gold, Lando Norris.

He's had a very good season, hasn't he?

It was all right, wasn't it? Could have been worse.

Yeah, sort of won the world championship, didn't he?

It was all right, wasn't it?

But it went quite well for him.

But we are going to be showing you all of our favourite bits of Lando Norris

from the past three seasons, and there are so many good bits, isn't there, Christian?

Yeah, I can still remember the first time.

We don't know what's in this, so hopefully this will be in.

But I can still remember the first time I interviewed Lando for this podcast,

which was at the start of the 20-23 season, our first season.

We've done 23, 24, 25, so this is the start of the first season.

And I said, what's the aim for Ewan McLaren this season?

And he said, to get ourselves where we can fight for podiums next season.

Like, that's how bad they started.

That's mad, isn't it?

Yeah, a little did he know that season, he'd have,

in 2024, the season he's talking about, the next season,

he'd have a car that was capable of winning the world championship

and he'd win races, missed out on the championship.

And then in 2025, won the world championship by two points.

Two.

Just two points.

But we've had so many good moments with him, haven't we?

I called him a liar at the start of the 20-25 season.

He did!

But I'm not just talking about Lando.

This is what I love about doing this podcast with you,

and it's the best thing ever that you don't get intimidated by these people.

These Formula One drivers, you will say anything.

The Betty Glover filter that I sort of fell in love with when we became friends

or the lack thereof filter, it just applies with anyone.

So we're sat in front of one of the world's great sports stars

and Betty would just go, no, I don't think you're telling the truth.

He's like, you calling me a liar?

Sorry, but he was.

He was lying.

I thought she was.

He was lying.

I was like, have you ever thought about winning the world championship?

No, I never thought about it.

And Betty's just nonchalantly like, no, I think you're lying here.

It's iconic.

It's absolutely brilliant.

But I say this on podcasts, and I don't just say it's always good to speak to Lando,

but I do always really enjoy talking to him.

I don't know what you think.

He's just always, he is always fun to talk to.

He's different to, we've all spoke to these sports people

that are just fundamentally quite dull.

And I think there's lots about Lando Norris that makes him,

he's just a really fascinating character

that's just not dull in any way, shape or form.

No, he's a really nice guy.

He understands the media side of things.

Like when you are a professional sports person,

you've got to do media as part of your job.

And he gets that.

But also I think when you do so much media,

it probably is so boring if you just keep it straight

and say the same thing every time.

Lando doesn't do that.

He will rock up to an interview.

I think we were talking to him once about like,

was it Adele or there was some sort of like music reference?

I don't think we talked about F1 for about the first 15, 20 minutes.

Yeah.

It was about, because he'd spent new year, I believe with it.

I think it was a DJ.

I don't think it was Adele.

I mean, I could be wrong.

I can't remember.

So he's great fun to talk to.

But I also think, I don't know what you think,

on track last season, 2025,

I think he surprised a lot of people

because I think so few,

when Oscar was dominating mid-season

and towards the start of the season,

we were still seeing Lando beating himself up.

I don't think there was a lot of people

that thought he was going to be able to turn it around.

And he did.

And on the debrief podcast of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix,

I remember saying to Greg,

like he won it for me through his consistency.

He was so rarely off the podium

that even when he wasn't quite as on it as Oscar was

in the middle of the season,

he was still banging in really good results.

Yeah, exactly.

And then he rallied to have those weekends

where he did just win and look so good.

I think his ceiling was higher

than a lot of people thought he was this season.

One of the things that people always said

when they were talking about Lando was,

I don't think he's got the mentality for it.

That was, everybody was saying that.

That was so, so common.

And I think he sort of proved this season

that you don't need to have that sort of

like Max Verstappen mentality

where you're just so ridiculously ruthless.

You can sort of show your human side as well.

And he did that this season.

The turning point for me genuinely,

I believe, was Canada.

It was still fairly early on in the season.

He's in this battle.

He makes this howler in the heat of combat.

There wasn't that many times this season

that Oscar and Lando went wheel-to-wheel racing.

Wando. Wando noise.

There wasn't that many times when they went

wheel-to-wheel racing.

And when they did in Canada,

like Lando messed it up.

It was Lando's mistake.

He made contact.

And I just thought,

oh, God, he is just going to be,

like he's going to be furious with himself.

Yeah.

And he got out of the car.

I was like, huh, it happens.

I made a mistake.

I can't be too hard on myself.

I made a mistake.

There we are.

And I was just like,

and he apologized to Oscar

and he apologized to the team.

Of course he did.

But he just moved on.

And that to me was like,

oh, you've unlocked what's needed here.

This ability to not go in hard on yourself

just to be cool and move on to the next one.

And then, Betty,

you previously said that the people

who actually was handed it,

it's not possible in a 24 race season.

It's 24 races.

It's such a long season.

When I was first watching F1,

it was 17 races.

You can't just be handed a title

across 24 races.

So he thoroughly deserved it.

And we've loved chatting to him.

Betty, shall we watch, listen,

and enjoy some of our favorite

Fast and Curious moments

with Mr. Lando and Aris?

Let's do it.

It's weird.

It's weird thinking like where I was

just a few years ago, where I am now.

I guess for the first time in my career

being the older guy,

the older teammate,

I've not had that since I've entered racing.

So it's my first year of this.

So a bit more responsibility on my shoulders

to help the team,

to lead them to use my experience

of Formula One,

to use my experience of working with this team

for the past five, six years.

But yeah, just all stuff I love.

It's all exciting and different things,

but all stuff helping us move

in the right direction, I hope.

In my old job,

when new people came in to do the job

more much younger than me,

it made me feel old.

Has Oscar coming in now made you feel

are you like who's this child

and you're making me feel old?

No, because he's a little bit taller than me.

I'll tell you.

I probably shouldn't have admitted that.

I'm way taller than Oscar.

Yes, of course.

We'll edit that.

No, he hasn't.

He hasn't.

I don't know how much younger he is

a year and a bit or something.

So I think that's like an acceptable amount.

If it was like he came in,

I was 19 and I'm like down 23.

There's like four years is a lot,

but I think he's like 21 or something or 22.

No, no, no.

I've not thought of it yet.

Maybe we're time,

but no, Safari is just my teammate.

As you came into the room,

we were talking about breakfast and coffee.

Yes.

I'm not a food person, are you?

Because coffee, I've spotted,

has become an increasing topic of conversation

amongst Formula One drivers

or a Valtteri Bottas, big coffee person.

You were talking about a Cortado earlier.

Are you a coffee man?

No.

Oh really?

No.

Not at all?

No, Latino coffee.

Is that a conscious choice?

I just don't like it.

If I really have to have it

because they have an early start

or something, I'll do it,

but I don't like it.

I don't feel like it affects me either.

I think it's too like mental.

It's probably not.

I mean, it is scientifically proven to help,

but I don't feel like it helps me at all, really.

You're not fulfilling the stereotype

of the British Formula One drivers.

When I was in Bahrain last year,

so many of the British press were moaning

they couldn't get a good cup of tea.

Yes, not for you.

Not what tea does, sir.

That's good.

It doesn't even taste good.

What are you hoping for this year?

What's the end?

By the end of the year,

what would we have liked to have happened?

I would love, love, love to be in a position

where I can be confident

that in 24 we can fight for podiums.

So stepping stone to biggest success in 24 is the plan?

Yes, I think, you know, this season

we have the new wind tunnel coming.

We have the new simulator coming,

which I actually saw last night for the first time.

It's beautiful, beautiful.

So that should get up and running fairly soon.

It's still a bit of work to do,

but these two things are, you know,

things which have been in the works for quite some time,

but they're also things which we need

to be able to fight against the top few teams.

And also some final steps

to really get the rest of the team in a perfect position.

So I think if we can complete those things this season,

stuff like the wind tunnel should be done

halfway through the year.

So we should get our first look at next year's car

in both our old wind tunnel and new one.

So we can, you know,

already start to see what areas

we can further improve with the new wind tunnel.

And yeah, I think the main thing is

being in a place where we're confident

we're taking steps forward.

You know, last year was a slightly tougher year.

We had some problems in the beginning.

We chilled us back and then that made

kind of the rest of the season a little bit tougher

than we wanted to.

But I think we're again in a better place

than we have been for some time.

So we need to prove that.

We need to put that emotion.

Start to take those steps forward

and give ourselves, give everyone the team

the confidence that we're not far away.

Although we have a lot of work to do

and the distance and the gap is still big

that we've got to close, we're not far away.

We just need those last few things to really come together

and once that's done,

yeah, everyone needs to be ready

to get their heads down even more

and fight for it.

You always intend when we speak to you.

I know, this is just from the last couple of days.

If you see my upper arm,

which I won't show,

if you see my upper arm,

what's the drumstick, is it a drumstick?

It looks like a drumstick, right?

Is that what you think?

You know the lollipop?

Like the squashy, the sweets.

You know one that's like raspberry and then

or like the ice cream, what's the ice cream?

The ice cream?

Not like a fab, is it?

It's a fab, pretty sure it's fab.

I don't have sprinkles on me, but

like, you know,

look beautiful here.

What she's done, drumsticks.

Drumsticks, the sweets that are sort of red and white.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I wouldn't say I'm red, I'm just tanned and white.

You're a lovely clown.

Excellent, good. And the golf's going well because

No, it's not.

I hate golf currently.

Right, my friends play golf

and it seems to happen. I snapped my driver the other day.

I just jumped on it because I got so annoyed.

Oh, God.

Yeah, it's in the bin.

I should hope so. Do you play with Alex Halbont?

Every now and then. Obviously he has

Well,

he said on this podcast that he doesn't let

his girlfriend teach him because they argue.

But you'd think he'd have an advantage.

She definitely, like every time I play, you know, she's

giving plenty of

lessons to him. Yeah, her trainer

now gives him lessons. So he really

should have an advantage. So he should

be like pro soon, basically.

He has no excuses is what you're saying.

100%. Okay, I'll remind of that

next time we play. Well, how are you guys when you play?

I would say I've beaten him every time, I think, so far.

See, this is it. I could be wrong.

He might have beaten me once, but that's like once, you know.

But he's getting better.

Like he stopped for a while and I think he's

kind of trying to get back into a little bit.

So, but we play right now and then

in Monaco when we can.

Did you

talk to Vin Diesel about Tarmac?

Because I'm so glad we have, because that was

fascinating, but I feel like he probably

didn't ask that. What about Sequentials?

Sequential Gearbox kind of guy.

And he was very happy when I said

I'm a Sequential Gearbox kind of guy, you know.

But normally when, for us

to go quicker down a straight, we upshift.

Normally in movies,

they downshift. Yes.

You know, fascinating, fascinating.

So you would say... Science is opposite in movies, but...

Giving him his tips for his next car.

You know what, you know when you're doing these races

down like a drag strip, instead of like

suddenly downshifting, I'm like,

if you upshift,

like when you're at the limit to your upshift,

you go quicker.

So you should start winning like every race quite easily from now.

I just love the idea of you going,

I've been watching this car chase. What you ought to be doing here.

I saw you down-changing

down this straight. What are you doing?

What was your thing?

Were you just going through your head at that point, mate?

But yeah, that was the main thing.

So, yeah.

And I want to say again, I'll say

he's massive.

He almost winded me, like he hugged me

You know? Yeah, I'm not a big man either.

He drawed me. Just finally,

when we last spoke to you,

you said Drain for the season was to basically

get in a better position for next season

for podiums.

You bought an upgrade to the car.

Last weekend in Baku seemed to make a positive difference.

How are you feeling about the season now?

Yeah, yeah.

It was a small step in the right direction. That's for sure.

I think we understand it was an upgrade.

100%. It made the car a little bit quicker.

100%.

So, a better baseline

for further changes down the road.

It's a different philosophy,

a different way of understanding

how the flow works under the car.

Which gets very complicated.

So, I'll keep it simple.

But a better understanding

and then more room for improvements

down the line.

So, it's more of a baseline

and hopefully in the coming months

we'll be able to

further improve what we have

previously had, if that makes sense.

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It's a beautiful day

because my first day back in the car

not this year

but the first day in the new car.

How did you find the new car?

It's a tricky question.

Well let me tell you this.

I find it great

but it's tricky in these conditions

to get a proper read on what it's capable of doing.

I've just been over to Mercedes.

Yeah, tell us.

I told them I wouldn't tell you that.

It looks like a pile of...

Really? So slow.

It's going to be fine. Slow as well.

Trust me. Are you sure?

I've just had a look at your car.

I've seen theirs, you're fine.

Based on Greg's years of technical activity.

I've done an F1 podcast for one year

and he's a technical analysis.

That was good to know.

Good to know.

How was your winter break?

What have you been up to?

I've done many things. It took a while to cover everything.

I travelled a fair bit.

I went to see Daniel

out in Perth.

It was a bit of a spontaneous move.

Not romantic anyway

but I'm just saying

it wasn't planned

all of a sudden.

My car's my only love.

I'm my mom. I'm my sister.

I'm my brother. I'm my dad.

I went down to Perth.

It was cool.

It was very warm. 40 degrees.

It was beautiful.

I went from 40 degrees in Perth

minus 30 degrees in Finland.

I had a 70 degree hit

which was quite a shock for the body.

How'd you pack them?

I had all my warm stuff with me

like jacket and stuff

so I'm in Perth with like

winter jacket on,

beanie on,

and Daniel rocked up tank top

and flip flops.

Did you have to go out and pick some up?

No, I just take them off.

Can I ask a question about what a day

with Daniel Riccardo is like in

Perth?

What's his plans for you on a day trip?

So we woke up.

Always good to start that way.

We attempted

making breakfast.

That was probably the highlight of the day.

We were trying to make poached eggs

or some sort of eggs.

And that didn't go down

very well.

They looked so bad some didn't even want to

eat the eggs because they just looked bad.

But I thought I cooked them very well

and actually they left me to do most of the cooking

because I felt like I was the responsible one there for

in the kitchen.

And

it was delicious actually.

One of my best breakfasts I've ever made

for everyone.

Long one to go for an egg.

What else happened on this trip?

No, that was about it. It was the highlight of the day.

But then there was

a bit of a swim, a bit of gym,

a bit of training by then

and he's got some little

cool things, a little motocross bike

and I probably shouldn't say that

because I don't think I was allowed to do it.

I saw you had helmet

and you had your armpats on and all sorts.

Definitely wasn't just helmet

like nothing else.

It was a lot of fun

so I enjoyed it.

We spoke this time last year

to give a take a couple of weeks

and I remember asking you

what the aim for the season was

and you said that the aim

is to get the car into a good enough place

where we can battle for podiums

in 2024.

You got to Bahrain and the car obviously wasn't

in a great place but then by middle of the season

you're taking the lead into turn one

that is a season of

that's a mad season.

Silverstone

was the turnaround point for us.

We brought the upgrade to Austria with a couple

smaller things for here in Silverstone

but that was the point where

everything turned upside down and until

Austria I think we scored 17 points

or something between two drivers

and then after that was 290

or something like that.

There was a fairly big difference

of podiums, points

and excitement

but Silverstone was really all turned around

and we scored the first podium here

and that was a very special moment for myself

to take the lead at Silverstone

in front of my home crowd

I was imagining

just being on the side cheering

and everyone else would be like

so I imagined that even when I was driving

I had to have a little look at the crowd

I did all I could to take in that moment

but it was

it was a very tough start

we didn't end up

we didn't expect to end up as good as we did

and I think that was a promising sign

because we knew in such a short time

if we could do that much what could we do

through the winter, through 24, through 25 even

so

I'm looking forward to it.

I do love it here, I have loved it

I'm going to continue to love it for many more years

and that's also just why

because I love it and I'm very happy

so there's two things

I want to be a world champion, I want to win races

and that's the priority of it all

but there's also the

I'm still just a normal guy and I do racing

because I love it, not because I have to do it

and at the same time I just want to have fun

and enjoy every minute and if that's

spending it with McLaren over another team

then that's what I choose to do

Are you confident for this season? Are you excited?

I hate this question

I'm always excited

of course I wouldn't be here

if I wasn't excited to go into every new season

so

that's definitely a yes

am I confident it's such an unknown

thing

am I confident we've done a much better job than other years

1000%

that's good

are you more confident in the last two years

like a 10,000%

it's a good percent

but translating that into lap time

translating that into results

and just knowing what everyone else is doing

is always the question mark

so that's the one where I have to go time or tell

it so often strikes me

that there is such a love for you

from your fans you see it online so much

we see it in our DMs on this podcast

for your appearance it's like

my goodness people love Lando Nariss

my niece called me today

and went please say hi to Lando

they go we've done it

say hi to Pia

hello hello

it is incredible

what's that like to have that love from these people

that you've never met to cheer you on in the stands

that must be so special

it is because it's

it's something that's hard to describe in the first place

just the feeling you get of

love and support from people

there's not many ways around the world

like many things you can do in the world

where you get the same feeling

and the same satisfaction

and it's just the fact that

and they come and support me

I still find it just odd

in a way that people coming over

cheer me on and want me to win all of those things

it's an odd thought to have

because it's just I think not normal

for people

so I think of that quite a bit

why is this person even coming to cheer me on

I did think of it but at the same time

I'm very thankful because I know

I have probably one of the best followings

and just fan bases in general

very supportive always

already in the hotel last night

there was quite a few of them

it's always nice

especially when it's kids

because when that story

went out that was once me

and there was an F1 drive

and I was like oh my god this is so awesome

it's that same thought of

I picture that being myself

and thinking like

I'm that person now

and I can give something back to them

and try to inspire them in some way

it's wonderful it's probably one of the most

special things about all of it

I get to travel the world and drive nice cars

and it's glorious

and tough at times but at the same time

that's pretty the most rewarding

special part of it all is

the support

and the love you get from people

so nice

you said don't ask but he's nice

Miami Grand Prix winner

Lando Norris

I'm sure you've heard this so many times Lando

I mean that's got a good ring to it

doesn't it?

I've waited a long time to hear it

it's amazing

it was an amazing weekend

it's been an amazing few days since

incredible one I'll remember

forever

you are in your natural habitat

which is a car with four wheels

on the way to McLaren HQ

you must be the world's busiest man

this week has it been

just completely crazy?

like Monday, Tuesday, off

actually I was playing golf with Zach

so I had a nice that was my reward

those were my few days off

and then Wednesday I flew back and then

I was in McLaren yesterday already preparing

for Imola and preparing for Monaco

because we got them back to back

so as much as we're kind of still

talking about Miami

we're already preparing for the next few

who won in golf?

Zach won the first one, I won the second one

oh okay that's alright

to keep us happy

it's no secret that you've been waiting

ages for this win

your 110th attempt

15 podiums in Formula 1

your dad said that he's worked out

he's been to like 900 races along the way

I'm sure you basically

imagined that moment of winning a Grand Prix

over and over again so many times

was it everything you thought it would be?

to be honest it's hard to imagine

what it would be like

as much as I've thought of winning it

and what would happen in all of that

honestly I don't know

I didn't want to put any expectations

to it and then I've just seen what happens

and the effect it had on

the whole team

everyone within McLaren, friends, family

whoever it was

I've obviously dreamt of winning

many many times

but the actual repercussions of it

what actually happens after

it's hard to imagine because

it's something that's so unique

so yeah it was an amazing

amazing Sunday after the race

amazing Sunday night

and so now I'm smiling I'm happy because

all the hard work paid off

let's talk about Sunday night then

because we saw Zach telling you

that the fly ups cancelled

Lewis Hamilton apparently told you to push back

the travel plans

so that was sort of the last we saw of you

fill in the gaps what happened

what did you do?

I just spent some time with my friends

I had a good night out I had a nice dinner

I went to spend some time with the team

we went back to the hilltown everyone was having a few drinks

and celebrating so it was nice

just to see all of the team there

a bit more relaxed celebrating

because I've been with the team what

six years so for the majority

of them we've been on this little

journey together we've had some ups we've had some downs

and to celebrate it

with them because they've been just as much a part

of it as I have made it even more

special so I went to say hello

to them and we had a couple drinks together

and we had a good time

and then the real party began

I feel like you can't

you can't tell us too much but what time

did you go to sleep Lando?

I didn't

that's good love that

you deserve that you only win the first race once

so I made the most of it

good that's what we like and something else

that your dad has said because he has been doing the rounds

is that the next step

is world champion now

that has got a mad ring to it what do you reckon?

I mean this is

let me win a couple more first

yeah do you know what

we'll let you enjoy this before getting into it

he's right like that's

there's two things when you get to formula one you want to do

first one is just to win a race

second one is to win a championship

so that's my goal it's my dream

that is our

our big target but there's a lot of

steps along the way to achieve that

and one of them will be winning

a good amount more races so

no I think like my feet are on the ground

I'm focused still I'm ready for the next few weekends

to try and replicate it

try and have some more good weekends

and go for next

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Lando, welcome back to the Fast and the Curious

thanks for having me, good to see you guys

it's very very nice to see you

you were just about to launch in

to a story involving

Craig David and I stopped you

because I wanted to hear it on the microphone

where did you bump into Craig?

I got him off the plane

I did my new year in Dubai

and he was going there as well

so first time

I know he performed here, didn't he?

he did, yeah

I think it was pouring with rain when he was doing it

I just bumped into him, yeah

and he was a

a really really nice guy

he is nice, is he a former one fan?

a little bit, I mean he's into it

I don't think he's been

he's not been to many races

I'm sure he said he would love to come to another race

but he's busy as well

you know what, he's a very

kind man, very generous man

he was, I mean he was taking

way more attention than I did on the plane

I like hoodie and everything

so I was hiding

he was taking pictures of everyone

I was like what a guy

did he know who you are?

well I didn't say hi I'm Lando

I kind of just said

I walked past him, I'm like a speedy walker

I'm impatient

I want to get stuck behind people

so I was kind of like going past him a bit

and

they weren't kind of just walking at the same pace

then I felt awkward to not say anything

so I was just like

see you here for a new year are you?

other than seeing Craig David

what was the winter like for you?

that was it, I peeked

that was the highlight we know

I wintered with Craig David

we were in sunbathing

no that was it, I just had a nice time with my friends

I

I did my little Finland trip

my yearly Finland trip

which is my getaway from people

you know over the years I've learned more and more

I don't like people

no I sympathise with that

very few

you're sounding like a 60 year old man

I feel it sometimes

I've taken the other day and I'm still broken

so I feel 60 years old

all I am

my algorithm clearly knows what I want

better than I know myself

I just see videos of you shopping the whole time

shopping?

I don't know why but there's always people

that's probably where I get

papped, photo the most

is shopping, but you know what the weird one is

is when they're filming me but they don't answer the photo

and then I see it

I'm like, that guy was filming me

he said that thing when I was near him

thank god he didn't hear that

you guys

you've been around Formula 1 a little while now

but I don't think you've ever gone into a season like this before

thinking, I might have a chance here

I haven't

you don't even think that, you know that

I know that, but listen

Karl was great at the end of that season

you must have thought about it thinking

could be the year

this is Oscar backing up behind us, just to excuse that

normal

it is

we've not started the season yet so let's not get ahead of ourselves

but we've not started the season

well ever

I think what felt like the best start ever

was my first year in Formula 1 because

no matter where I finished felt great

but every year there's almost been

more and more expectation for us to

then do a better job and then do a better job

and we've just never been able to do it until really the last

couple of years, you know we took some steps forward

and last year was the year so

this is the first one, we're coming in like we've done it now

now there is the

pressure and there's the expectation of

you've done it, now you have to start it

that's our target but it's

difficult, everyone's trying to improve and make as many

changes and everything as possible

but I think we are confident that we've

figured out a lot of stuff and

we definitely want to start

how we end it

how do you handle that level of pressure

because this is the most pressurized

you've probably been maybe

I would say it is

and I think I know it

because

I mean I just did the media session

and they're like oh the bookies have you are the best stars

and stuff like that, which is great

and I hope people make a load of money off of me

as long as they give me a car

but

there is the pressure and the nerves that come with that

and everyone's going to feel it, that's the thing

you know, I will feel it

but all my mechanics, all the team

expect, that's normal

that's how humans work, as soon as there's expectation

and nerves

you slowly learn to work with it

and that's the normality of Formula One

that every year you know there's pressure and nerves

and all those things

and I think last year was a great year because

now I'm on pole quite a bit

how do I deal with those things

now I'm leading the race, how do I deal with those things

and I kind of experienced a little bit of everything last year

apart from leading the championship

that's something I've still not ever done

but I race against Max and I came out on top sometimes

he came out behind sometimes

and those types of things

so I learned a lot last year and I think last year set me up very nicely

to come into this year and actually be very calm

I know there's a lot more pressure on me

everyone's like now he's got to do it

but I'm very relaxed and calm

and I feel the most relaxed I've ever done

but in a good way

but in a ready way

have you thought a lot

about winning the drivers championship

no

really

I think you're lying

no I'm really not

you must have

I don't think you're lying

no I'm not even

you started recording

you're now calling me a liar

that's true

we're cutting that out

really though

I'm quite surprised

I haven't, I haven't even thought of it yet

it's good

we let us think about it

we're excited for you

we just look forward to more wins

I'll never forget that

but when you say it I think of it

but I'm not going around every day like

let's stop talking about it

I'm just thinking of

lunch

hey the moussaka

fantastic

you liked it

I had one

and two of the sandwiches

and you're only a loud one

so I think it's two guys in there with no food

we're being wrapped up because I'm talking about moussaka

that's how it goes

we've got one more killer question

here it comes

you know you were talking about the wins earlier

there were some weekends last year like Zambor

like Abu Dhabi where you looked so in control

and it was like

this is someone that looks

properly ready to fight for a world championship

because you were right up there

that scrutiny level I thought looking from the outside went up last year

and there were some weekends

where you were scrutinised more

and people were harsh on you in some ways

for weekends where it went wrong as search

or it didn't quite go as well as you'd like it to

how difficult

was that to deal with at the time that jump

in pressure of scrutiny and have you

reflected on that much over the winter

yeah um I mean rightly

so like um

I'm all up for people having their own opinions

and saying you know what happens

if you did this should you have done that

um yeah

I think the only thing that

that I don't respect like I respect

all those things you know and a lot of this people's

jobs to kind of comment to these things and so forth

the only thing you don't respect is like

people who think they know better when they most

likely don't um because they want

in that situation they're not living that moment

um and uh

and just false stuff

stuff that's just like how the hell has someone

come up with something there's a lot of conspiracy theories in this

there's a lot but people don't call it conspiracy

theories now they just call it their facts

yeah and I don't know how you could

it might as my personal facts um

that's not how it works you know that's not the

fact so it's um

you know again you learn how to deal with these things

and that's something I probably was affected by a lot

more before I think last year I was

and I've been more and more just

you just gotta live with it and roll with it

you know the fact that people are

criticizing you or supporting you

um of course you always are much happier

about those supporters um

but I know I'm gonna get criticized I criticize

myself all the time I I want

my team to criticize me

and the thing I probably almost hate

the most in the world is people who

try to make me feel good

and and

do it in the wrong way you know I prefer

the criticism than like a fake

happiness let's say um

and

that's just yeah again my way of doing

things I feel like everyone's just so stuck

with you have to do this everyone does

this this is the way you have to do it

when none none of it's true it's just um

finding your own way of of living your

own way of thinking your own way of talking all of these

things there is never really a correct

way and a wrong way of doing a lot of things

um but people think too much of the

time that there is so

you know just find your own way of doing it and I feel

like that's what I I kind of clicked last year

halfway through three quarters of the way through

with um okay now I just

crack on with doing my own thing and focus on myself

and and that seemed to work so that's how I'll

I'll go into this year but um

I know I'm

gonna make mistakes and I know I'm gonna

not have perfect race and those types of things

the same as any athlete or whatever

but um

uh yeah

I don't mind what people say to be honest because

I'm the first to criticize myself I'm also the

first to be honest and say

yeah your f***ing job today

I missed yourself or I did that wrong

I mean I'll happily admit it you know

um maybe not happily but I'll always

admit it and I'll always be honest with these things so

yeah um it's just

life nowadays you know people love love to criticize

but uh again turning

that into something that's positive where you want to go prove them wrong

and and and makes you work that little

bit hard is is the main thing very mature

outlook

60 years old

I would say that most the majority

of people enjoy watching you have fun while you're driving

yeah that's the thing

people love watching you drive

you kind of too much fun

because you're not taking it seriously no no you have to have more fun

this is it you've chosen

to do this is your job it's the

maddest sport in the world no I know it's fun right so

that's I know that's where our angle is always

this is fun and I retire in a couple years

great to know don't say that

you can't say that because now you'll be asked

about that 50,000 times like that

yeah yeah yeah it'll sell

more caps this year though yeah get them while you can

get them while you can yeah

I'm retiring at the end of this year

quick get your caps now this is your last chance

breaking news

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don't do that

I can say why I won

hey why Rowan

what are you going to do Harry

Harry in the background

with his head in his hands

these are your alternative facts now

it's a conspiracy what do we need

I'm not retiring guys we've got a contract for many more years

too late we've already

thank you thank you

thank you for your time and good luck for this

season we are so excited to see what happens

I'm excited for next year's interview already

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