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Welcome back to The Fast and the Curious.
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If you are a long-time listener, you will know that we speak to some of the biggest names in the sport,
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which is what we're doing today.
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And we try and keep you in the loop with everything that is going on in the mad world of Formula One.
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Greg James pops in sometimes as well.
02:02
He's not here today.
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But our resident Formula One geek, Christian Hugill, is, of course.
02:08
You never not hear Christian.
02:12
I don't have anything else to do with my life other than talk about Formula One.
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Well, actually, I beg to differ because you are now a dog dad.
02:19
So you've got a lot going on.
02:21
Genuinely, I think...
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We won't do long on this because we're speaking to a Formula One driver
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and the literal world champion.
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Do keep it quick, yeah.
02:28
Yeah, I've had more DMs and messages about getting a dog
02:31
than I think I've ever had in anything in my professional life.
02:33
So other than trying to get a Golden Retriever Poppy to do a poo in the rain,
02:37
other than that, I don't have anything to do other than talk about Formula One.
02:41
So, and yeah, Formula One is re-emerging from its sort of, you know, winter slumber,
02:47
isn't it, Betty Glover?
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So we've had Shakedown Week,
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which has been where everybody gets used to these new regulations.
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We're going to talk about that a little bit more in our next episode.
02:55
We've got two actual proper pre-season tests to come in Bahrain,
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but we thought this was a good opportunity to speak to not just any old Formula One driver,
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the actual world champion.
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Yeah, we've only gone and got the world champion, Lando Norris.
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Lando Norris, welcome back to the Fast and the Curious.
03:19
Thank you very much.
03:20
Nice to see you all again.
03:22
Lando, has anything significant changed since we last had you on?
03:25
Any sort of status, I wonder?
03:32
Honestly, it's all pretty much the same.
03:35
I mean, yeah, apart from having a number one on my suit and my helmet and things like that,
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you know, my life is really pretty much the same,
03:43
which is a good thing.
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It's just I have a lot of great memories and awesome pictures
03:49
and deep down, I know I achieved an incredible thing.
03:53
So, no, I guess I just feel better,
03:55
but otherwise the outlook is generally the same.
03:58
What is it like driving the car with a number one on it?
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I think it's more weird when I see it rather than just simply driving.
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When I see it on, as I said in one of the other videos,
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on the timing screens and things like that,
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I've been, what, for the last six years, seven years,
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used to just always seeing the number four,
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and then all of a sudden you're number one.
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So it's weird for the eye just because you get very used to always seeing,
04:28
getting used to something.
04:31
But when I see it in pictures and things like that,
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it's just cool because you don't think about it 24-7 as much as I want to.
04:38
You don't think you're out of 24-7.
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But when you then see it, it's like a constant reminder,
04:43
and then you think about it and you're like, oh, I did that.
04:46
So it's pretty amazing.
04:48
I now sort of wish you were thinking about it 24-7
04:51
and really taking the mick with it.
04:52
So, Landau, do you want a coffee?
04:53
Is it a World Champions coffee?
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Because if so, I shall take it.
04:57
If so, I'm not interested.
05:02
We know it's not you, but that said,
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and humour is for a second,
05:07
with little things when people say I'm joined by the World Champion
05:10
or Landau and I are as Formula One World Champion,
05:12
surely the novelty of that's not worn off yet.
05:15
You don't need to play it cool. That's massively cool.
05:18
No, I think that's still something that's not even settled in yet.
05:26
It's still just a reality of it.
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The fact it is a reality, which is an amazing thing.
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That's one of the best feelings.
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I'm still trying to realise it's happened
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and be achieved and we're World Champions.
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When someone says it, it's just cool.
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The more people I say it, the better.
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It will never wear off.
05:50
Have you had anyone weird or particularly interesting
05:53
or someone you didn't expect to say congratulations to you?
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Has anyone popped into your DMs and you're like,
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Honestly, I've not read half of them.
06:05
I understand them all.
06:07
I have so many that I've not even looked.
06:11
I need to, honestly, because it takes quite a while.
06:16
It's still taken me to this day to reply to half of them.
06:21
I've seen a few days of trying to just go through every single one,
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whether it's on Instagram or on WhatsApp or something.
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There's just a lot of amazing people.
06:32
I wouldn't say weird people.
06:34
There's a lot of people just from different sports.
06:37
Every different sport, whether they're incredible at a sport,
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like one of the best,
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or they're just people that I've watched growing up,
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young people, old people.
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When you see something like that, the amount of support you get
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or just congratulations and respect
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is something that I just admire a lot.
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It's a beautiful thing,
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and I'm very much obliged to anyone that I've not responded to yet,
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because I still need to spend more time doing it.
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I'm sure they'd forgive you to be fair.
07:06
David Beckham, I feel like always pops up
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when someone wins something from the UK.
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Has he slid into your DMs?
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Has he messaged you?
07:15
We speak every now and then about different things,
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and he did send me a message.
07:21
David is always great.
07:23
He's in the garage every now and then,
07:26
and he plays guitar a few different places.
07:31
It's always nice when his name pops up for sure.
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We're having that one, David Beckham popped up.
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We'll have that, lovely work, excellent.
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Lando, I can still remember meeting you for the first time
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before your first Grand Prix,
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which seems about 100 years ago now.
07:48
From the pictures, we both look a lot younger,
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but you've aged better than me.
07:55
Even then, you were talking like,
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yeah, the dream is to be world champion one day,
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and you'll have said that from beyond then,
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from going back into karting.
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Now you've had the winter,
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and you've reflected on it, and some of it sank in.
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How does it feel to have not just to have achieved
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like a goal that you've wanted to achieve in life,
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but the goal, like the ultimate?
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That's something that not everyone will do in their life,
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no matter what that goal is.
08:20
That must be amazing. What's it like?
08:27
Yeah, that's like my life.
08:29
I'm happy for life now,
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because simply it's what I've dreamt of doing my whole life,
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in a way. It's all I've worked towards,
08:37
it's all I've tried to do since I was,
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yeah, like six years old, basically.
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For something to take so long
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in order to achieve that one goal,
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I think is what makes it so incredible.
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It's not like you wake up one day,
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and the next year it's done.
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It's from the age of six,
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all the way to when I was basically 26,
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almost 20 years of trying to achieve one thing.
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But it's one of the most prestigious, incredible things
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you can possibly do in the world.
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So it's still unbelievable.
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Like I said, it's still an unbelievable thing to think of.
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But especially when it's me,
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and for my family, my friends,
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the people who have kind of been on that whole journey with me,
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I think for them it's also the same feeling,
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because they know what it's taken to get there.
09:25
Just on that, I wanted to ask you about your mum,
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because she had so many viral moments last season,
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but particularly the last race as well.
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She had so much airtime, didn't she?
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Is she enjoying her newfound fame?
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I think so, it's a problem.
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Honestly, I've not even watched it back yet, the race.
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I love it. I need to sit down and just watch it,
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and see from the other perspective of seeing what people saw on TV and things.
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I had a pretty good seat for the whole thing,
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so I saw a good bit.
10:08
She's there cheering me on and supporting me,
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and that's something I would never want, right?
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So that's a great thing.
10:14
It's not hard choice to be on TV,
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but it doesn't seem to love one.
10:18
That's a beautiful thing.
10:22
I know, she's always great.
10:24
But it must be cool doing all this with your parents beside you,
10:26
because also, I remember watching the Vegas qualifying
10:29
from the McLaren hospitality,
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and it was obviously that point of the season,
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it's really squeaky run time.
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Your dad was a few seats in front of me,
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and the electricity going through him was unbelievable.
10:41
I was genuinely thinking he was going to put his foot
10:44
through the motorhome floor, like he was bouncing.
10:47
And they feel every emotion too, don't they?
10:50
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they both do.
10:53
They don't like to watch the start of races.
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I guess, I think it's worse when you're not,
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it's almost worse for them,
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because they have no control over anything that happens.
11:03
So you're just a passenger at that point.
11:06
Which I think makes it harder in many ways.
11:09
But they've supported me,
11:11
I wouldn't be here without my parents,
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since the beginning.
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Yeah, and I mean, especially in those moments,
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because as much as it is my dream,
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it was also my dad's,
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and my mom's at the same time in some ways.
11:26
Yeah, but it all kind of started with my dad
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going karting with him once, and my brother,
11:32
and kind of living his dream in some ways.
11:35
He loved racing when he was younger,
11:37
he just never, he couldn't do it.
11:39
So he got to share almost his dream with me,
11:42
and I got to kind of fulfill one of his dreams at the same time,
11:45
which is a beautiful thing, right?
11:47
So yeah, no, I couldn't have done it without them,
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so I was happy that they could all,
11:51
my whole family basically was there,
11:53
so it was very, very special.
11:55
So it really doesn't feel like it was that long ago.
11:58
I feel like there hasn't been a break,
12:00
there hasn't really been an off season.
12:02
You must feel that more so than everybody else.
12:05
What have you done?
12:07
So like driving aside,
12:09
did you do anything sort of in between that's cool?
12:13
Yeah, I mean, I just,
12:15
I spent a good amount of time with my friends.
12:17
We went away for New Year,
12:19
I went to see my parents for Christmas,
12:21
and then I went away with my mates for New Year.
12:24
And that's just what I love to do,
12:26
like I'm going to play some golf,
12:28
and have a few drinks on the beach, that kind of thing.
12:30
So it's just, sometimes simple things are,
12:32
honestly, just as cool as it gets.
12:34
And I had a beautiful New Year,
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a beautiful trip to Finland.
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And that's all I like.
12:42
I just love doing that to go and experience some things
12:44
and be with my mates and have a good time.
12:46
That's the best part of all of it really.
12:50
Like I honestly wish I could have had another month
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to just sit back, relax with all of you.
12:55
Because it's been the shortest off season,
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probably almost of my career, I would say.
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So yeah, a bit of a weird one,
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but that's also a formal one, right?
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So it's, and it's my job.
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So yeah, I got to get cracking.
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I think what so many people who listen to this podcast like
16:04
is that you are always like,
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you're very bold in saying,
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I want to do this my way
16:08
and I want to be myself.
16:10
And whether that is needing to go
16:12
and have those moments,
16:13
as you say, like New Year
16:14
and just step away from it all,
16:15
which some people need to do
16:17
or whether it's when you're in season.
16:19
Like, are you particularly proud
16:21
for having sort of done it your way?
16:23
You've spoken a lot about this of like,
16:25
not changing who you are,
16:26
not letting sport change who you are
16:29
which sometimes when it's so all consuming,
16:32
it can be easy to slip into that, can't it?
16:35
Yeah, I mean, it's,
16:37
it's a complicated thing.
16:40
And yeah, I don't know.
16:42
Everyone just has different personalities,
16:45
And if I really wanted to
16:48
if I really wanted to
16:49
and wanted to go out on track
16:53
drive in a different way
16:54
and be a lot more just over aggressive
16:57
I could easily do that,
17:01
I almost enjoy doing that.
17:02
It's just so the opposite of me as a person.
17:07
obviously I hear a lot of people saying
17:08
you're doing your own way and stuff.
17:09
And I don't think a lot of people
17:12
like the whole understanding of that kind of thing.
17:15
and a lot of it's between, you know,
17:18
Andrea kind of started a lot of it with Andrea.
17:22
it's very much an us thing
17:23
and the understanding is between us.
17:27
you're not trying to be,
17:28
be someone you're not,
17:30
not trying to go out and think,
17:33
Schumacher did this,
17:35
all those years ago,
17:36
I need to try and be more like that or,
17:41
it's easy to almost idolize
17:42
and think you've got to be something you're not.
17:45
And you've got to just find
17:46
what you feel comfortable with.
17:47
And in the end of the day,
17:48
I've got to find just what I'm happy with.
17:49
Like I also want to,
17:50
I also do formal one because I just,
17:55
although it's a very simple thing to say and easy to say,
17:59
it is the priority because the more I enjoy something
18:02
and it's the harder it makes me want to work for it
18:04
and the better the results and that kind of thing.
18:07
as long as I started in,
18:12
which is go out and have fun.
18:13
As much as it's just an easy statement to put out
18:16
in front of everyone,
18:17
it has to start like that for me.
18:21
my way from that understanding.
18:23
that's the most important thing.
18:26
I'm going to live my life by that as well.
18:29
that's what I'm going to do now in 2026.
18:31
I'm going to copy it.
18:32
I also just love how honest you are
18:36
and how vulnerable you are.
18:38
you'll say if you're struggling with something,
18:40
you'll say if you're really enjoying something
18:42
and it's going well,
18:43
but you're just so like open about everything.
18:47
is it easy for you to do that?
18:48
Does it just come naturally?
18:49
Or is that something that you've had to sort of work on?
18:54
I think I've had to work on not being as opposite.
18:57
I have to work on not being as open with a lot of things.
19:02
I feel like I did change a little bit last year.
19:04
I started the season in a pretty bad way
19:08
apart from Australia,
19:09
my performance after that.
19:13
how tough I was on myself,
19:14
that kind of thing.
19:15
But I was also how always been,
19:17
which is also just because it's a high stress,
19:19
high pressure situation.
19:21
I'm fighting for a championship.
19:23
I'm fighting to win races.
19:24
I'm not going to be happy when I'm doing a bad job
19:27
and I'm making mistakes
19:29
and I'm not performing at the level that I know I can perform at.
19:35
it doesn't make me happy
19:36
and I'm not going to come in and pretend that I'm not.
19:38
So I'm just going to tell you,
19:40
and I definitely don't think it's had,
19:42
had as much of an effect as what people say
19:47
like it's, it's not,
19:49
like I'm just giving you the truth
19:50
and it's easy to do that,
19:51
but it's not like I'm always telling myself the wrong thing.
19:55
because I know what I'm capable of doing.
19:57
So it's not like I don't believe I can do certain things.
19:59
I'm just saying I did a bad job today
20:02
because I know I could have done a lot better.
20:05
so it's more just, yeah,
20:08
it's easy again for me to come in
20:10
and not be like that
20:12
and to completely change how I approach things and,
20:16
But again, that's just not me.
20:17
That's not how I was brought up.
20:18
That's not just the ease of how I like to say things.
20:23
I hate not having honesty from within my own team.
20:28
is one of the most important things.
20:29
So if I've done a bad job,
20:30
I want my team to tell me I've done a bad job,
20:32
not ever try and make it,
20:34
you know, too nice or be too kind to me
20:36
on that kind of thing.
20:38
just because of the position that I'm in
20:40
and my job, whatever it is,
20:42
so I prefer them just to give me the,
20:44
the hurtful truth in a way
20:46
than trying to be overly kind.
20:49
and that's just my way of,
20:51
and trying to get the most out of myself.
20:53
I think people really appreciate it.
20:55
I think people take a lot from you wanting to be yourself.
20:57
That's not easy to do in life,
21:01
I think people really take a lot.
21:02
And I think it's something that,
21:03
that your fans love about you.
21:06
good on your Lando Norris.
21:08
now obviously you've done the shaked down
21:11
the big thing all people always say is it's too early to tell
21:14
what's going to happen
21:16
from the shaked down.
21:17
So with that in mind,
21:18
tell us how many points you'll win this world championship by.
21:22
which races you're most likely to win.
21:25
and everything about the car in great detail
21:28
that you've learned from the last week.
21:33
there are a lot of differences.
21:35
it is too early to say,
21:38
we've got another two tests to see up.
21:40
we can give better conclusions of things,
21:47
you never know what other people are doing.
21:49
and it's such a big regulation change.
21:51
I'm not a lot of stuff that we had last year that might have
21:53
made us quick is necessarily a carryover to this year.
21:57
everyone trying to reset
21:58
and just take a whole new approach to everything.
22:01
but still working in the same way that we did previously
22:04
I think something that made us a very,
22:06
very strong team and a championship winning team.
22:10
I mean, the car handles different.
22:11
It's obviously got more power up to a certain point.
22:15
quite a bit less downforce.
22:16
So it's much trickier to,
22:18
to kind of handle that power.
22:20
slower in the corners,
22:21
especially the medium and high speed corners.
22:24
it's a different beast.
22:27
but still just as challenging or even more challenging.
22:32
to control the power unit, the battery,
22:34
all of these things which have also changed quite a lot.
22:38
a big challenge for us as drivers,
22:40
but also just a big challenge for everyone.
22:44
I want to be confident because I believe a lot of my team,
22:47
that we're going to be,
22:48
that we're going to be strong and we're going to be fighting.
22:51
a lot of other teams and Mercedes look very strong.
22:53
and some of the others look good.
22:54
They're ready to cross loner.
23:00
we've got time like it's,
23:01
it was just the first shakedown.
23:02
We've got two more tests.
23:03
It's a very long season.
23:04
So it's one of those or even if we don't start off on the
23:07
as much as we are making sure we do,
23:10
it's not the end of the world.
23:11
It's a very long season where there's going to be so many
23:14
changes in terms of,
23:18
things that can really boost you forward and,
23:19
and backwards in some way.
23:23
we'll just keep our heads down and keep working and,
23:24
and making sure we get the most out of one another.
23:26
We loved watching you last season,
23:31
you've always been so good to us on this podcast since we started way back when,
23:35
so many people who love this podcast love you.
23:37
So we are so delighted to be speaking to you as world champion.
23:40
Like it's so bloody cool.
23:41
We're so happy for you.
23:43
That's very kind of like,
23:44
it's still cool when you say that, you know,
23:48
now that makes me very happy.
23:50
Formula One world champion.
23:52
I will keep saying it for as long as you're bored and till you get bored of it.
23:59
I will never go bored of it.
24:00
You can find someone better to voice it than me.
24:02
I'm sure we'll keep,
24:04
we'll keep repeating it,
24:05
but it could be someone better.
24:06
There's other people.
24:07
Get you a cool voiceover man or something.
24:11
It's always, always a pleasure,
24:12
always good fun to come and speak to you guys.
24:13
So thank you very much.
24:15
Thank you so much, Lando.
24:16
Good luck for the season.
24:23
and we'll say it again because he likes it,
24:24
the Formula One world champion,
24:28
one person who unfortunately isn't the Formula One world champion,
24:30
but does host a Formula One podcast is Betty Glover.
24:33
what did you think of the Formula One world champion Lando Norris?
24:36
I think I could be Formula One world champion in a different life.
24:39
Like if things went differently,
24:43
I could put a Lando in me.
24:44
It's not where we were supposed to be going with this chat,
24:47
what would have had to have gone differently?
24:52
where was the sort of sliding doors moment?
24:59
I failed my Lego Land driving.
25:01
Test when I was five years old.
25:03
So if I'd passed that,
25:05
maybe it would be different for me.
25:08
that was the moment Lego Land,
25:12
Thoughts on land though.
25:13
What did you think?
25:14
He's clearly so happy still and so buzzing.
25:17
And he just seems in such a good mood,
25:20
It's so nice to talk to him.
25:22
I'm sort of pleased that like that feeling hasn't been sort
25:25
of beaten out of him,
25:27
for the start of the new season,
25:28
he's still riding on that high.
25:30
It was really nice to see, wasn't it?
25:33
It was really nice to see.
25:34
Do you know what bit I really liked?
25:42
impersonate almost other drivers.
25:45
Like Seb did it this way.
25:47
Schumacher did it this way.
25:48
Lewis did it that way.
25:51
I'm going really philosophical here,
25:53
but just stay with me for a minute.
25:54
Sometimes when you go through life,
25:56
you do naturally try and emulate others.
26:00
You try and compare yourself to others.
26:02
You emulate others.
26:03
You think that person is doing this,
26:04
so I should be doing that.
26:05
And it's really hard to just stay in your own path,
26:07
stay in your own lane.
26:08
I think it must be so difficult in that paddock
26:10
in Formula One to do that.
26:14
I think he should be really proud of himself
26:16
for the way he did keep
26:18
being himself and being me.
26:20
And I think he sort of epitomizes the modern athlete
26:23
I was about to say this.
26:24
I think it's quite,
26:26
I don't know if this is correct,
26:28
but this is the way that I think about it,
26:30
is that it's quite old school,
26:32
of like older athletes would sort of have their idols
26:35
and look up to them and be like,
26:36
I really aspire to be like this person,
26:38
blah, blah, blah, blah.
26:42
whether they're football players,
26:43
they're foreign drivers, blah, blah, blah, blah,
26:44
always think I just want to be myself,
26:46
like the best version of me.
26:48
It's quite a sort of new way of thinking, I guess.
26:51
I think it's a very healthy way of thinking about it.
26:54
And I think he alluded to something
26:57
I thought during the season.
27:00
We said on this podcast,
27:01
but like he did start the season being too hard on himself
27:04
because you can go too far.
27:06
You can be too open, too hard on yourself,
27:08
beat yourself up too much.
27:10
But it was that point.
27:12
I banged on about it before of Canada
27:14
when he made the mistake of hitting Oscar
27:16
and the way he didn't beat himself up.
27:19
I think he did gain that balance of going,
27:23
look, I can put my mistakes behind me
27:25
and not beat myself up.
27:26
I can still show my emotions and be honest.
27:28
As he said, when things aren't going well,
27:30
I can still be honest about that.
27:32
And I think he unlocked more on track
27:35
because of that comfortableness that he developed off track.
27:38
And I think he surprised people with the way he dug in
27:43
and unlocked more performance.
27:45
So I think it was nice that he sort of reflected that.
27:47
I think he sort of seen what we picked up on there,
27:51
I also think, though, to give him his credit,
27:53
to be successful and to be the best at what you do,
27:56
you have got to want perfection from yourself.
27:59
And you know when he said,
28:01
I beat myself up because I know
28:03
that I could have done better there.
28:05
So it's as simple as that really, isn't it?
28:07
And if you didn't, I guess if you didn't care,
28:09
you wouldn't, you'd sort of leave the car
28:12
and whatever, go into an interview
28:14
and just, I don't know, shrug it off.
28:16
But he cares so deeply that man, doesn't he?
28:20
He really wanted that.
28:22
And do you know what I hope for him this season?
28:24
I saw, like, those of us who are old, like my good self,
28:28
and have been following it since Jensen won his championship,
28:32
Like, I think he was always a very good driver.
28:34
I think he got a better driver after he won his title.
28:36
There was such a, that's what I wanted to do.
28:38
I wanted to be world champion.
28:41
The pressure was released.
28:43
The weights off your shoulders.
28:45
The weights off your shoulders, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
28:47
And then he went into the next part of his career
28:50
when McLaren won races, stacked up so well against Lewis,
28:53
just really enhanced his reputation as a Formula One driver.
28:56
Already, you can see from Landau,
28:58
he's going into the seasons feeling so confident,
29:00
so relaxed in such a good headspace.
29:02
I think that bodes well for his on track performance.
29:05
So I think he's in a great, great shape.
29:07
And also, we've had a lot of DMs asking,
29:10
like the previous two seasons on this pod,
29:12
we've gone to Silverstone and caught up with McLaren
29:14
at the start of the season when they've had their shakedown.
29:16
Obviously, shakedown didn't happen that way this season.
29:19
That Silverstone day didn't happen.
29:21
So we had a lot of DMs going,
29:23
are you going to speak to McLaren at Silverstone again?
29:25
Well, I said that didn't really happen.
29:26
So McLaren have kindly set this up for us to talk to the boys.
29:29
And we've got Oscar coming up.
29:31
So we really appreciate it.
29:32
Thank you, McLaren.
29:33
Lovely of McLaren to let us speak to Landau
29:34
at the start of the season.
29:35
Keeping up the tradition in this difficult winter
29:38
where there's so many time demands with three tests.
29:40
So yes, thanks to McLaren and thanks to Landau for coming on.
29:43
What I will say is we're clearly a good omen for them.
29:47
Because every time we speak to them,
29:49
they have a good season really, if you can count it.
29:52
I still think of the first season when we just launched 23
29:59
so we did 24 and 25 at Silverstone,
30:01
but I went to see him at the start of the 23 season.
30:03
It was on the Fast and the Curious Gold
30:05
that went out over the winter.
30:06
It's on the YouTube channel and on the audio feed
30:08
if you missed it, where he said,
30:10
I want to get into the place where in 2023
30:12
the aim is to get into a place
30:15
where we can look for podiums in 2024.
30:18
And then he was winning races in 2024
30:20
and winning the title in 2025.
30:21
That journey over the last few years
30:23
from McLaren has been spectacular.
30:24
So yeah, amazing, absolutely amazing.
30:27
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30:48
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30:50
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30:51
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30:53
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30:56
And also, after we've spoken to Oscar
30:59
we're going to do a bit of a Q&A
31:02
on the first, not the first test
31:05
which is not being called the first test,
31:06
on Shake Down Week.
31:08
Shake Down Week in Barcelona.
31:09
We're going to do a bit of a Q&A on that.
31:11
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