The Ford Mustang is a classic American car that people love for its speed and cool looks. It's been around for a long time and is often seen as a symbol of fun driving.
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people admire for its speed and unique shape. It's been around for a long time and is loved by car enthusiasts.
The Datsun 240Z is an old sports car that many people love for its stylish look and fun driving experience. It's considered a classic and is sought after by car collectors.
Drift cars are cars that are built to slide sideways around corners. They are modified to make it easier to lose grip on the back tires while still being able to steer the car.
A press car is a car that car companies lend to journalists so they can test and write about it. It helps the company get publicity for their new models.
Counter steering is when you turn the steering wheel the opposite way to where you want to go, especially when the back of the car starts to slide out. It helps you stay in control while driving fast.
The Toyota Supra is a fast sports car that many people admire for its power and style. It's known for being fun to drive and has a lot of fans who love to modify it for even better performance.
The Porsche 911 Turbo is a fast sports car that has a turbo engine, which gives it extra power. It's designed to handle well at high speeds and is great for driving on tracks.
The Nissan GT-R (R35) is a super fast car known for its technology and performance. Some people think it's not as exciting to drive as other sports cars, though.
Nismo is a part of Nissan that makes cars faster and more exciting. They create special versions of Nissan cars that are designed for racing and performance.
Restoration is when someone fixes up an old car to make it look and work like it did when it was new. This can involve a lot of work, like repairing the engine and painting the body.
Bare metal means the metal of the car is completely clean and shiny because all the old paint and rust have been taken off. It's what you see before a new paint job is done.
Acid dipping is a method used to clean a car's body by soaking it in a special liquid that removes rust and old paint. This helps prepare the car for repairs or a new paint job.
Brakes are what help a car slow down or stop. When someone upgrades their brakes, it means they are replacing them with better ones to make the car stop more effectively.
Z1 Motorsports is a company that sells parts and upgrades for certain Nissan cars. They are known for having a lot of options for enthusiasts looking to improve their vehicles.
The Quail is a fancy car show that happens during Monterey Car Week. It's known for having really special and expensive cars on display, making it a big deal for car fans.
Monterey Car Week is a big event in California where people show off their cool cars. It's like a festival for car lovers, with lots of different activities and car displays.
Ferrari is a famous car brand from Italy that makes very fast and luxurious cars. They are well-known for their racing history and are considered a status symbol.
Pagani is a luxury car brand from Italy that makes very special and expensive sports cars. They are known for their artistic designs and high performance.
The Nissan Skyline is a cool car that many people admire for its speed and technology. It's especially popular among car fans who like to modify and race their vehicles.
Formula Drift is a racing series where drivers intentionally make their cars slide sideways around corners. It's all about style and skill, and it's very popular with fans of car culture.
The BMW 3 Series is a stylish car that offers a mix of comfort and sporty driving. It's popular among people who want a nice car that feels good to drive.
The Toyota Corolla is a small car that many people trust because it's reliable and gets good gas mileage. It's a great option for anyone looking for a simple and affordable vehicle.
The Shelby Cobra is a famous sports car that is loved for its speed and classic design. It's a symbol of American muscle cars and has a lot of history in racing.
The Porsche Cayenne is a fancy SUV that drives like a sports car. It's designed for people who want a lot of space and comfort but still enjoy a fun driving experience.
The Porsche 911 GT3 is a super-fast version of the classic Porsche 911. It's built for people who love racing and want a car that can perform really well on the track.
The Mazda Miata is a small, fun sports car that people love to drive because it feels very responsive and light. It's also known for being a great value for a sports car.
The Lexus GX 550 is a fancy SUV that can handle rough terrain while keeping you comfortable inside. It's great for people who want a nice vehicle that can also go off the beaten path.
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All right. On this episode of the podcast, my old pal Larry Chen is in studio. He's got a new book out called Life at Shutter Speed, and we're talking about it and the stories behind it. Plus, he went to Brunei and straight up asked the Sultan to see the cars.
That's crazy. And he's going to tell us the story on this episode of the Smoke Entire Podcast. Let's go.
Larry Chen. Glad to be here. Cheers. Ben Vanu. Author. Author Larry. Never ever in my life. I would have thought that I would be writing. I would publish a book.
I guess you could let you did do some writing in this book. Your new book Life at Shutter Speed. A lot hypothetically, just wondering the definition. If you did a book that was only photography and had no writing in it, does that also make you an author?
That's a good question. Ask your agent. That's just Ryan. Ask Ryan. I know your agent. Ryan. Yeah. Ryan, chime in in the comments. I kind of feel like maybe. Yeah. Cause it is a book.
Yeah. Making a book. An author author writes books that author makes. The dictionary says a writer of a book article or report.
I'm someone who writes the writings of a professional author. Okay. So there you go. If you want to remain an author. No, once an author, always an author. Yeah. Life at Shutter Speed. Well, that's a good name for a book. Thank you. It is my life.
This is legitimately my life's work in one book. And so many people help me, including yourself. Well, you didn't need to write a book to come on this podcast, but you did it anyway.
No, but I'm saying like you, I photographed you and you're a part of the story. Yeah. I mean, me wrapped in cool looking cars, which is my favorite costume. So I'm happy to do that. Yeah. Yeah.
You should do it again with with sparkle monkey down there. I would love that. And then also one of the few film photos that I published in this book was with your Mustang. Yeah. Yeah.
And that's some grainy, awesome shit. I have a big one of those on my wall at the house. Yeah. That was a time period when I had the time to do that. Right. Because the way this book is laid out, it's backwards chronological. So as soon as you turn the first couple pages, you get into my 2024 photos, which I think is probably some of my best work.
And then as you flip the pages and you go back 20, 21 years, because it starts in 2004, it kind of de evolves.
The light gets a little harsher, the pants get a little slower. Well, my, no, you can see my, you can see my skill develop, but you can also see my style change. And the main thing is you can see the technology.
Yeah, well, because as you go back, the sensor technology is not as good, right?
Oh, I was worse than in the book. I thought I was like, I thought you meant in real life. I was like, ooh, as an inclusive, the technology sucks now. Right.
Like the dynamic is not as good. The lenses aren't as sharp. This that another, but the main thing for me is that you can see very early on.
I wasn't really pushing composition and light and pushing what photography was car photography, like in terms of what's possible.
What I was doing early on was just relying on relationships, taking pictures of people, telling stories, a lot of friends.
And just the story, whatever's happening in general versus relying on beautiful shapes, beautiful colors, complementary colors, and that style for me just develops over time.
And it's something that's a richness, right? You're trying, you're, the photos get richer and richer and richer in color as they get newer.
Yeah, yes, but also it's just what I'm photographing. It's what I'm focusing on what I'm, what I'm chasing. And you'll see also over time I shoot more, kind of like in the middle of the book before I started doing video.
And then come around 2018, 2019 when I started doing my own show on the hoonigan, hoonigan channel, that's when I started slowing down and I started doing both I started doing video, YouTube, and I also did stills at the same time.
And now, unfortunately, I wouldn't say stills is on the back burner, but it's just like an extra thing in addition to what I do.
Which mostly I'm just doing video on telling stories now is that like so is this, I mean, is this book sort of like the complete catalog of stills then you know that way, since it's now sort of just not really a thing anymore.
I'm glad you mentioned that it's something that I thought about and when I say this is my life's work, I don't think it's the all the my still photos that I'm going to do. I'm going to still continue shooting still photos, it's something that I can't let go.
For example, this past trip that I went to I went to burn I and we'll get into that after we finish talking about the book, but I always had my still camera with me and I always have to take still photos because it's something I can't let go but be it got me to this point right it's story telling you different way.
And I laugh because like that's kind of why I make YouTube videos the other way right yeah so with that said it's not as like a stopping point it's more of a time stamp like I figured I'm a big round number guy I love round numbers and 20 years it's actually 21 but it's mostly 20 years of full on just all out shooting.
Non stop and all of it is it's about 5 million pictures that I whittled down to a little over 2700 pictures that is fucking crazy it's a lot of pictures and you know the thing is I have had two camera bodies 5 million is pretty conservative because I've had two camera bodies that both have 1 million actuations over 1 million yeah so there's a really good chance it's well over 5 million but there's just no way for me.
To say 5 million you're not taught when you say you went from 5 million to 2700 yeah you're talking about 5 million frames shot.
Yes, okay, all right so you're not talking about like you have previously edited down you know you know the work and now you're talking about 5 million finished photos all right that would be almost impossible.
Well, at the height of my shooting around 2015 1617 I was shooting about half a million a year yeah and then surrounding that there were some years that were 350 and then before that obviously less and less and less once you get to the earlier years it's down to 10,000.
Sure, and then now it's a lot less also, but with that said I was standing on what you're shooting I mean like when you shot me and my cars it's been it's not been heavily action it's been more portrait stuff most of it but if you're shooting you know motorsport you know you might be machine gunning.
You know if you're chasing a drifter around full track you might you might machine gun 2000 frames you know no problem right well you'd be surprised right so for your Mustang I did both I I shot with film and I shot some with digital.
I guess I guess we only have ever really just everything we use some digital but I think the film ones were just more sustained well it was more of a backup right so then.
I think around that time I was averaging about maybe 500 to 700 photos for a car feature because I I wanted to make sure that I told the whole story about the car every angle inside and out all the details all the patina all of that and then of course there's photos of you with the car yeah I'm pretty sure there's a film photo of you in this car with your glasses and your whatever my stripe.
Yeah so funny because it was like it was actually a day is hoody white shit it was the most Brooklyn white kid shit ever but but then I did a shoot with your safari 911 and that was probably 2500 photos because there was a lot of drifting there was a lot of sunset running back and forth a lot of dust so I was laying on that shutter pretty heavily because there's just so many frames in between
that is just like the perfect hate your tire picked up for this microsecond and it looks cool for that moment but also if you're running if you've got two cameras mounted on the nose of your car and you're running chase around a racetrack you know you probably and you know the flow of camera car catches
a subject car so you know but as you're coming in you're right like yet and that's still the style the the way to get that shot because you're also driving the fucking car that is my favorite thing ever being able
to drive and film it's my two passion rules put together I told I didn't tell you I was we were talking to Zach about this and my friend Mike came to visit last week from L.A.
and you know the stuff that we get to do every day you sometimes like don't really think about you took him out in the alpha and he was blown away
well first I said we did we were doing car to car in the fucking roof rodeo on a closed road and I'm like street drifting this car you know right off the bumper of the camera car which is an
cast-in-vantage roadster and he's like you're out of your mind this is the craziest shit I ever seen in my life and I was like oh yeah it is
this is kind of sweet you know this is the thing is when I pick up my camera it's my special day yeah you know I absolutely love shooting
still so much and with with those moments like you you I don't know it's just something that you're used to
but you also still enjoy I know I know you enjoy it I'm we're not going to flip through the book on camera but like this right here
this shot I shot that with my super yeah which is and that and probably this with yes well that was with my 240Z so that was before
I got my so do you I mean do you remember before you got your super when you and I were at grid life in the BMW M2 and we had
mounted cameras on the nose and we were doing this and I remember when we were chasing around the drift cars in this car
just going we have our own private view of this action the best you nobody else could ever get the best yeah yeah
because we're right in their door and I don't know if you remember I was pushing you to essentially get close as
possible but you have to back off to let them transition otherwise they'll take the nose off of your press car
they'll take the complete front and off we're just getting and there's a lot of smoke you have to always stay like
upwind of the smoke otherwise you can't see anything it's a lot harder than people would imagine and you know
I was doing it with video cameras on the nose so all I had to do was drive you then put a still camera in the nose
you're riding right seat and firing yeah now you are driving and and triggering you have like what a steering wheel
trigger there's a couple ways I do it I actually have a mouthpiece trigger that people use
quadriplegic no skydivers that's what they use to trigger a shutter on when they mount it on their forehead
so will you bite on it yeah they bite on it seriously the same one that you handed my then girlfriend to note
well I just gave her the entire amount I took the entire remote and just gave it to her and she was helping me
so I prefer to have an assistant yeah but if I have to do it solo then I'll do it myself but I had it on a steering wheel
but it actually is very difficult to do on the steering wheel because sometimes I have to counter steer
and you know because sometimes you just get out of yeah you have people don't realize how fast these guys are going
they're going really fast yeah the the wheel speed is like 150 miles per hour even though they're drifting 60 70 80 miles per hour
but when I've been following these individuals at road America or at Laguna Seca they can drift up to 125 miles an hour or more
yeah it's insane so I'm going literally going as fast again I mean I know you love your Supra but I wonder if if we were starting from zero
and let's build the perfect formula deed chase car do we want a rear drive car do you I think I think you actually want an all-wheel drive car
like a like a 9.11 turbo that would actually stay cleaner at a higher speed even though it's really fun to also drift behind people
I think the two would be 9.11 turbo turbo S or R35 GTR yeah but R35 GTR fucking boring those cars stink
yeah but with it overcomes the weight with technology yeah it's with Chris Harris's guy uses Neil
yeah I was his grip what do you call it grip whatever but he had you know big cameras mounted on it and stuff
and if you're going fast and you're chasing people like yes the car is boring on its own when you're doing what you're doing it's not boring
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a couple things about the book it's one of those things where I really tried my absolute best I curated it
to the point where every single picture for me was important these photos on
I bet that covered took you forever
well ever let me tell you why I it took me forever because I wanted to choose these photos
where they would only show up once right so if it shows up on the cover it's not going to show up in the book
but they're still significant and you could see like we even I bet that drives you nuts
no well we even made sure not to print the barcode on so you can take the barcode off
so you can see that picture that's covering
it also that could have been a good like use for like if you had found a photo where like you know
it was a shitty composition and the you know it was out of whack and the car was like off in the corner
but the barcode like actually fit that would have been a fun spot but removable is key
yeah so that way it still has an ISBN number you know still in the library of Congress
so every photo very important you know you have Mara and Dready on here you have a lot of these significant moments
but I didn't want to put something that was so important that
it would take up a space here but it wouldn't have like a two-page spread in here right
so you take this slip cover off and then you have a photo of Pike Speak
and we did like a fun gloss thing on it so yeah it's actually got a really cool if you if you bend it through the light
it looks like the the headlight tracks up Pike Speak are almost like painted onto the book
exactly exactly so we wanted to make it look like cars are moving and you can kind of see like a live photo
yeah it's cool this photo can never be recreated ever again it's just the way that they run the race
it's this during this time period during sunrise right so what they do now is they'll run the cars when they're dark already
so this is just all the pit vehicles going up so I went up early and it was just this time period
and I think it was because there was a fire and they had a move the race
so it was during a different time in in the year yeah yes the light came in a different angle
so I was able to get that yeah that's like the one of my Lambo outside you can that shop
you never be taken again either there's so many of these like RIP or window of course right so many tracks so many roads so many places
that you can never recreate obviously the back I can never recreate this unfortunately because this is Ken block
because of Ken yeah it's a great shot so rally this is a rally in Spain rally
it's got a lot of road this is significant for me because this is such a good story about Ken
this was a stage and believe it or not on the stage every single person competing including Sebastian Loeb
whoever was competing they had to do a donut around this roundabout and then continue on
and that was part of the stage it was in the notes yes plus do donut on round about
guess what Ken did more donuts so he he told me and his photographer runs ours
and he basically told the team like look if I'm not going to win this stage if I'm back
I'm just going to do donuts and I'm going to stoke out the crowd yeah and so we're like okay let's go let's plan for that
and this all these people they just started getting so stoked because it was just Ken just doing donuts here
and the story of this is these individuals basically were there all day just to get the spot
and we called this poo mountain because it's there's nowhere to go to the bathroom and they basically just went to the bathroom everywhere
and this is the sector's worth a thousand words but not a thousand cents exactly so
it literally glosses over the fact that that's whole area was just feast city yeah feces yeah
yeah but so just a couple is on its last legs man that couple other little fun things about this
the first this I like my I like my how mine is a pre-pro yeah yours is a eight thousand yeah so
the first picture in this book is something that I have never published before this is the first time anybody
seen this picture and the reason why is because this picture somebody paid me $70,000 not me
someone paid $70,000 for this picture to exist because I auction myself off for charity
yeah for one day I don't know if you remember this on bring a trailer yeah and it went for 70 grand
oh cool and I went to the guys place where we're in the world in general I can't say what country was it is
it was in the US okay and then so he commissioned Nismo to build him like a perfect spec sure
basically well one of their like restoration things yes but this one was taken down to bare metal
acid dipped sealed all that which makes it like I think they call it a fine spec which is a brand new car
wasn't that like the one they just did no that one wasn't oh it wasn't that was a restoration but they
get it just down to a region yes oh yeah I didn't realize that it wasn't that that wasn't as
high as they can this is even so this I didn't make the number exactly so this if you sold
this it would go for more because this from Nismo's already over a million dollars does
build by legends go that far yes yes they do that BBL car I drove was the real deal yes so they
do and that's through garage ishita and garage ishita restored my car yeah but my car wasn't
stripped down to acid it was stripped down again to adhesion yeah and then pretty much as far
as you can go without actually dipping the entire chassis in a bunch of different bass but still
charge for that did they offer that and you're like it's so much more it's it's it's fun it's
ridiculous I mean but for what it is do you want a brand new car or not you know if you can afford
it and if it's something that you want and you weren't around the car was new then you have to
pay for that I get it yeah did let me ask you and I want to come back to the book but since you
brought it up yeah does your car which is gorgeous and was done by experts of experts yes
does it feel like a brand new car it's it's still yeah I mean it feels like a 25 year old car
I mean it is it already felt really nice when I had it it was in really good condition
but it's just that much that little extra step yeah in terms of like less rattles just certain
things part of it is because in that era of Nissan the cars weren't built that well to be honest
which is funny because like I don't know I don't I don't think they were built that badly compared to like
what a 2000 American I had a C5 Corvette homie yes I get that but if you look at my car and
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put rubber where they should have put the rubber right because as soon as you drive on wet roads
what does the tire do it shoots up the water into the shock tower area and if it's not sealed
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show I I mean I'm still working on it to this day like we just upgraded the
brakes are 35 breaks it even feels better now I don't by the way mean new like
doesn't feel like a twenty twenty five brand new car I don't mean that I mean
like compared to this amazing gold thing yeah I drove this which is okay as
adipped the works the best one can get yes was it notably better than what you've
got this one I have to say the main difference is that they got all new
interior panels and mine are the same yeah yeah but now we're starting to source
new interior panels I got a bunch from Z1 motorsports for whatever reason okay they
stock a lot of R32 to R34 panels and I'm starting to source things little by
little but it's just like little things all right but that's not okay so
interior I got it like so the acid dip thing is only for the I don't give a
fuck crowd yes for money doesn't matter I don't care for everyone else
you're not really missing out is what you're saying about this I bring the car
and you and Zach can drive it so you can I would have a go at this oh you're a car
yeah so I love in R34 they're fucking great yeah I know you you've driven one in
Japan mine five or six different ones they're all great it's hard to find a
bad one mine makes stock power it's verified dynoed on on graduate sheet is
dyno makes 330 I think at the wheels at the wheels that's the stock yeah stock
stock 100% stock feels slow compared to my R32 which makes around 500 but it's I
feel like a million bucks driving that thing I drove that all the way up to
Monterey car week and I showed my car at the quail which is so crazy talk talk
about a huge ride of passage I know you've have you showed other cars at the
quail nose my first one too how fun was that really fun I had a cigar ready for
the drive out it was great just I really enjoyed myself I never ever thought I
would be able to do that and just like I never thought I would be able to
publish a book so many right of passages you know for a real car nerd it meant the
world to me really it was so cool for people to be able to see the car meet so
many people that appreciate it for its era you know a couple years ago I
don't think they would have let R34 into the show no I mean I I think since
Philip has become more involved the younger person at the quail I think the
the audience and the cars shown and all that has shifted accordingly I mean I
don't think there's I mean look all you have to do is look at the auction
prices I mean no one is questioning if a R34 of Skyline is a legit collector
vehicle at all it's just so funny to me because I was on the quail rally with all
those other vehicles that I don't need old shit yeah old stuff like like the
Paganiwara and leverage any this and Ferrari I don't even know how to pronounce
some of these names oh do date do a cheese salindry I think is the correct name of
that anyways when we're driving fuck I better get it right before you review
that when we're driving along the kids the car spotters were just going nuts
over my car yeah yeah yeah yeah because they're like yeah okay Ferrari
Ferrari Lambo McLaren Pagani oh my god it's a GTR and they're just like kids love
stealing out yeah and I think to myself oh my god this it's this hilarious because I'm
the only Japanese car only Nissan on the rally and yeah people just appreciate it
it makes me happy because originally when I purchased the car it was never about
how it performed I could care less I get that you can make a thousand horsepower
who cares for me it's about the aura about the story about the way it makes me
feel when I drive it the way it looks you know it's just of my generation yeah
yeah if you grow up playing Gran Turismo this was the car yes when we were in
high school in early college what are we doing Nurburgring no skylines that was
like the thing and then you drive it and you go oh shit it wasn't like just a
cheater car in the video game like and you know because we didn't know about
like group A when we were 16 we didn't have fucking YouTube and shit so you
know but but but we had Gran Turismo and so that was really what I was saying
as you drive and you go it's not disappointing really drives actually like really
nice yeah so we'll close out on the book it's pretty 125 dollars it's pretty
and you should buy it it's it's available firebird rules this white firebird yeah
god damn that the one that's like the wide wide boy fuck that things awesome you
should everyone should buy this book it's sick so yeah if you guys want to
pre-order it we're shipping them this week oh cool actually so I I just came
from seeing the container full of books that's got to be fun on Amazon and
also on Carrara books dot com but if you purchase it on
carbooks dot com or Amazon it doesn't really make a difference obviously if you
do it from Amazon it helps us bump up the the ladder in terms of like car books
so definitely if you buy it direct from the publisher you don't have to support
the oligarchy yeah yeah that too so so we give that option it's okay so I
definitely appreciate everyone for supporting me on this book this is just
something that I spend bookstore and have them order it for you that works
to support your local bookseller god this book's so pretty Larry thank you I
would give this one to a fan except I'm not going to because I want to keep it
this one with the sparks these these these Jim Connistuffs great man I'm so
happy for you there's so many good pictures to two things real quick so I am
doing a public book launch at the Peterson Museum I'm announcing that soon so
first time talking about it that'll be on October 5th Sunday so anybody can
come and check out the book I'll be there signing copies but it'll be like
a public fun meet it'll also be by a ticket or register somehow or can you
just show up you if you're spectating you could just show up if you want to show
your car that it's like one of the cruise at one of the cruisants it's a
cruisant right so it also happens to be the last day of the cam block exhibit
so if you want to come and see the cam block exhibit before it goes and come check
out the book if you want me to sign the book whatever we could do that I'm also
gonna announce one really really special event that I'm doing I don't know
did you see this meat that I did at the Queen Mary earlier this year no so I
did a meat at the Queen Mary the day before formula drift 1750 cars showed up
and yeah it was it was really how many were you expecting I don't know but not
them so so we are gonna do another meat oh fun but this time we're gonna do it in
downtown Long Beach uh-huh and we're gonna take over the entire parking
structure in downtown Long Beach 800 spaces like the middle one like the two or
three blocks from the beach well it's it's the one that the Long Beach Grand Prix
course goes around oh okay so it's gonna be the type S night lights meat it's a
formula drift pre-me and it's presented by Penzoil so that one is going to be
on October 16th it's free for everyone to come that one I can come to I'm
traveling for the other one yeah we should you should definitely wait you see
October 5th yeah I'm traveling for it that the Peterson one I'm traveling
for this one I can come to are you going to lift is that why no I am something
else huh you're going to something else but I'll be at lift and I have to fly
back for that event I'll be at a performance car of the year oh cool which is
the thing I cannot complain about being at that we fun but no I will definitely I
would like a spot at the Long Beach I'll save you a spot it's a lot of fun
because we're gonna have like a fun Tokyo drift moment where we we have all the
formula drift cars come up the the entire parking structure but legally obviously
you know the right no I'm basically I'm gonna try to recreate the Tokyo
drift moment the best of my ability legally within reason but also with the
support from City of Long Beach which is so cool yeah yeah long beaches are
what time is the event it should start like five or six p.m. but it owns a
calendar yeah yeah and at 10 but let's get to Brunei we will yeah we'll have to
bring some cars to that yeah that'll be fun yeah these spots I need okay so
Brunei saw this on Instagram and I was like what the fuck is Larry doing so what
are you doing over there a lot of people talk about oh man one day I want to
see the collection one day you know how cool would it be to see the Brunei
collection has anybody actually gone to Brunei to try to see any cars do you
know of anyone that's gone I mean there's like an Instagram account that
claims that the family of Brunei is not happy with them they get sneaky sort of
clandestine photos of stuff and have other photos of stuff I don't know I
haven't tried to see anything I don't know anyone who actually has no so over the
past couple years I've been shooting a lot in Southeast Asia I've been shooting my
show captioning carculture and I've been meeting a lot of people from Brunei I've
been meeting people from that region and I feel like up until this point I haven't
really made enough connections to really make it happen right so just this
last time I went to Malaysia for this show I met some of the organizers from
this show in Brunei they call it the Borneo custom show and Borneo is that
that entire island yeah and in the island there's three countries there's
Brunei there's Malaysia and there's Indonesia and so then Indonesia has a
whole bunch more it's a one of one of the islands yeah it's one of the islands yeah
so this one island they have this one car show it's the biggest car show of
the entire island so out of those three countries and obviously the biggest
in Brunei and they've been going on for eight years so I thought okay this is my
end this is at least my I wouldn't say cover story but it was my way to make
connections on the ground make some friends and actually go there and check out
the show but shoot my shot at shooting some royal cars or some collections right
you pretty well known in that area like if you show up at this show at least a
certain number of people will know exactly who you are it was insane and you
know the thing is in Southeast Asia most of these countries they're English
speaking right especially Malaysia Singapore Philippines and Hong Kong just a lot
that region and a lot of Indonesia a lot of Thailand they're English speaking and
they consume English content so I didn't really understand my viewership I
didn't really understand these individuals until I went on the ground shooting
their car culture and Brunei especially it's crazy the percentage of people
there that watch my content absolutely blew me away so long story short I took
the steps to go I made some connections with some royals that maybe are a
little further away from the crown but they're still royals they still have
royal blood so went there right away got on to the radio station because they're
the radio station of course this government owned but they still listen to the
radio every single day what got there kind of put it out there that I want to
see some royal stuff and it was very well received I was very surprised I met
so many people I brought I kind of keep track of how many people I meet by
bringing stickers and I give out stickers I brought 2000 stickers I'm almost
out I like I almost ran out so I met so many freaking people but I met the
Sultan the king you know the Sultan his brother Jeffrey who started it all and
also the crown prince who's going to take the throne eventually you know
when the Sultan either passes away or when he wants to move on and also his
two brothers so I met that's pretty much the top yeah I met it it's so insane
it's like going to England and meeting the king yeah like how long did that
there a long that take you landed it was I'm shaking the hand or you know
two days two days pretty fucking good it was honestly I think a fucking bond
would be pretty impressed with that like so that's pretty if you could just
picture this like think about nobody could meet think about coming Larry's like
home a beer think about going to coming to the US and just two days meeting the
president from from nothing I mean I know you couldn't do it from nothing I
think it would be about two hundred and eighty million dollars you could show
up here and make laws it turns out but yeah I get the point yeah but like any
other country with royalty or anything like that like that just doesn't happen
so who among that group was like oh I know Larry Chen's let's hang out which by
the way this is completely first time me talking about this right fall like you
guys are getting the exclusive the scoop I'm gonna I'm not gonna tell you
everything I'm gonna tell you up to a certain other book well no it's not that
it's we shot a whole haggardy caption car culture episode on it a very
detailed documentary and I'm gonna put all of that out showing this entire
thing this entire process of me you know going from Singapore to Brunei because
that's the only way you can get there and then showing me going to the you
know the Royal all of this everything every bit of it I just documented it to
my best ability and I'm gonna lay it out there you can get to Brunei is from
Singapore logistically or legally logistically yeah yeah logistically so so
went to Singapore went to Brunei met up with a lot of local car culture
enthusiasts that were also Royal and I wrote a letter to Prince Matin who is in
charge of the collection now okay so what happened with Prince Jeffrey is he
went bananas bought all these cars as you know and a lot of people know who
followed the story and he got in trouble right he got in trouble and so he
couldn't keep the car collection so what happened is the car collection got
moved to another government agency that takes care of it and it's it was called
band 2 now it's called band 3 and the locals told me it's the reason why it's
called band is because it's like it was band yeah so they had a they have band
1 band 2 band tree and it's it's spelled very weird so when they spelled it
band 2 it's T.O.O now it's spelled tree as in T.A.N. D. B.A.N. D T.O.O.O
this is the government entity that takes care of every single one of Jeffrey's
cars okay and now Prince Matin the son of the current Sultan sorry but I know
he's gonna do it don't pay the table the Prince Matin who is the son of the
current Sultan yeah is taking care of the entire collection on behalf of this
other entity band 3 and his uncle yeah so my goal was to meet Matin and ask him
if we can shoot this collection so I wrote a letter to him and also wrote a letter
to his office because our friends on the ground are friends with him and the
people that surround him he was able to receive the letter and he did say he
wanted to meet me and he already knew who I was so once we got on to the
ground we already had a bunch of collections lined up with a bunch of
royals in fact we had four separate collections that we already had access to
okay to film okay to tell the whole story once we got on the ground and once this
ball started rolling and I went on the radio and I started posting saying you
know meeting people one by one those collections dropped like flies so we
think somebody in the royal family was like no this isn't happening and just
started actively shutting these things down I don't know but from the text
messages that our context got from the text messages that we saw where it's
like positive positive positive all of a sudden they all go negative like at one
certain time all at the same time we think there's a group somebody the royal
group chat was like yeah somebody is like now this ain't happening so what
do we do we're like okay let's meet them in person and ask them face-to-face
so it just so happened to be the King celebration for his birthday that was
postponed because I guess he got ill for whatever reason and they have two
celebrations for his birthday one on one side of the country and one on this
other side of the country so I just happen to be there and then move in a
country that small yeah well you're about to ask the King of favor on his birthday
that's well here's the thing my our contacts on the ground like I said they are
royal and they had seats at the table or at this event and they're like Larry
just come along with us he already wants to meet you let's just make the
introduction and you can talk to him in person and I'm thinking to myself how
is this even a thing how is this possible like where in the world does this
exist anywhere else and we're talking about a relatively small country okay half
a million people but still yeah it is it is legit royal family like I saw
the palace it yeah but well now that I think about half a million people if
that's it it there's you know there's probably only fucking two or three
degrees from anybody to a royal right that's yeah that's the thing that's like
when I went to Iceland and I was driving a McLean only McLean Claren't ever go
to Iceland everywhere I went they were like I knew you were coming yeah my
cousin told me you were coming everywhere I knew you were coming I knew you're
coming I guess you know it is crazy and I'm not trying to take away from it
because you there had to be multiple levels of permission and approval probably
beyond what you even know about but like but now that I think about it in a
population of a half a million people everyone's got to be only a couple of
degrees from the king so just imagine Larry like his you know his head with
camera yeah your next book should be like where's where's Waldo book it's
where's Larry yeah I shook his YouTube channel and I shook his hand I told him
it's my first time to run I excited about meeting the people you know the
people are so friendly beautiful country all that gave him the whole
spiel you know but yeah we went there watched Prince Jeffrey land in his own
Black Hawk helicopter and then watched the king land he's flying his own
Black Hawk helicopter he flies his own 747 he's a pilot and also the sons are
pilots too flying around in a Black Hawk is that practical
who cares so they land they they come and we didn't know Jeffrey was gonna be
there we didn't know Prince Jeffrey was gonna be there we I already was
excited to meet Prince Matin who is in charge of the collection we I had no
idea that the guy who started it all in terms of car culture and Brunei being
one being something that you can't separate anymore yeah the guy responsible for
it was there yeah he lands and then he he gets in his it was like a I don't
tie can or something drives over to the assembly area the the Salton gets out
with his sons he gets in his G wagon which is the only vehicle in the entire
country that doesn't need a license plate he gets in the G wagon they assemble
they do the whole thing and what they do with his birthday celebration is they
meet like the local politicians they meet the local local politicians local
families local royal families local businesses like all the oil companies and
all the people that his subjects essentially right so they all line up and I was
embedded with this one company that does a lot of the oil stuff but they also
tune the fastest cars on in the country they built this crazy R35 GTR I think
they're building one that's 2500 horsepower right now that part of the course
right but anyway so I'm along with these guys and then so the royalty comes the
king or the Salton comes first you know I say thank you whatever amazing
country I take a selfie with them and then Jeffrey comes along Prince Jeffrey I go
up to him I'm like you know I give him the whole spiel you know I'm American first
time Ruben and I can I photograph your car collection and he looks at me he's
like I haven't seen my own car collection for so many years why why would they let
you shoot it if I haven't even seen it and he's like if you want it that's a
fair question yeah you're asking the wrong guy exactly he's like you're asking
the wrong guy I have no access yeah he's out nice to meet you I have no access
what because he got exiled or he self exiled for I think about a decade after all
that stuff happened because it was just whatever just a not a good look for him
to be around for whatever reason I don't want to get into yeah I don't want to
get into the way he can't get into the car collection right he can't so
then he I don't know maybe he can maybe publicly he has to say that but Prince
Matin is the guy right so that's the guy he's he jokingly he's like hey talk to
my assistant I talked to his assistant and he's like he's joking just just
leave him alone you know so then I go to the two other brothers the Crown Prince
I again say thank you you know glad to be here tell him I'm American talk to
his other brother super nice guy he's like oh you're from Los Angeles
or whatever then Prince Matin last one the one I want to talk to yeah he comes
out to me first thing he says hey Larry he knows I'm coming you know he knows
what I'm there for and I ask him hey can I shoot either your collection or the
main collection the private collection he's like let's talk him private and he
just connects us with his secretary he's got to be he's got to be last in line
pressure if he's first in line he talks to his secretary and he's like just
exchange numbers or whatever but my my contacts they already knew the secretary
we were already talking and that's how we actually got him the letter so then
basically we'll leave the story off here I will say I did get to shoot
roll of cars and I'll tell you guys privately after after filming but I want to
release everything but the spot don't give away what you can sell I know I know I
want to put together like a really good episode detailing this entire journey
and it's gonna be long it's gonna be probably over an hour because I really
put a lot effort into this one you know a crazy thing is just me showing and
documenting you know watching them land their helicopters and just face to face
you know taking selfies with them that whole process leading up to that was
already crazy and then everything else after that so yeah that's wild it's so
wild yeah so many people this is the last untold major car culture story in my
eyes like it's forbidden so we've been told so so yeah yeah we've also been
told you know the cars are in total disrepair the cars are you know the cars
are this the cars are that it's always been kind of a and yet some you know
you every once in a while you'll see expert night cars that have sort of made it
out something happened to them what one of the big stories that I do talk about
that I'll let you guys know about is the fact that I try to convey how much of a
trickle down effect there is it's huge it's insane like you cannot at least for
a car person doing all these car things in Brunei you can't go to a car thing
without meeting somebody or meeting a owner and being proud of the fact that
this was an X Royal car and on paper documented this is this was registered
to the palace you mean in Brunei in Brunei oh yeah like you want to talk about a
serious trickle down effect it is insane they've done so many auctions and
they've gotten rid of so much of the collection and it could be crazy cars it
could be insane but yeah they also had like 500 black S-classes so there's
exactly there's a lot of that there's a lot of that and for example I met with
the individual that was with us that also has royal blood he bought just like a
regular three series E36 325 I yeah at a royal auction registered to the
palace I think actually registered to the ministry of finance which is what
Prince Jeffrey's thing was for and he bought it for thirty eight hundred dollars
yeah you know it's because to most people it's a three twenty five years of
shit yeah this ad you put a picture of it's fun it's an ad for a auction and it's
like two hundred dollars cash deposit required for vehicle two hundred Brunei
dollars oh yeah the bands band two vehicles for sale that's how they spell it band
to yeah B-A-N-D-T-O-O for look how it looks like it was done in Microsoft Word
yeah right 2012 yeah this is a and this like this one's really funny it's a
replica it I don't understand why the people with all the money and also access to
get very real Ferraris would have a replica but okay sure but it's fun like
you could see their pink slip it's blue yeah it actually says band two look
at this ministry of finance that's where it's that is where it's registered
that's address like how crazy is that like this is just so cool to me being able to
tell this story so yeah yeah man I hope that I hope you got to see some of the
the actual good stuff not just the fake Ferraris but the paperwork is whole
areas yeah so there was a lot of that I mean we spent four days on the ground
but of course leading up to that it was months and months of planning with the
locals but what about that car show was it was it awesome what are people driving
to their they are car obsessed there like it just it trickle down in terms of
the cars but it also tricked down in terms of the enthusiasm for these vehicles
they are car obsessed and because it is an English speaking country they just
know they consume all of your content they consume my content but what's
popular over there like mostly JDM yeah mostly JDM because it's right hand
drive yeah you can have left hand drive but it's pretty difficult to to use the
left hand drive most of the cars that I saw people either converted them or they
had somebody else convert them whatever I know a lot of the royals had
Penafrina convert certain cars to right hand drive sure I saw the only H2
Hummer there that was converted to right hand drive but it looks so good like
they spent so much effort Australia doing those H2s and like Rams and Raptors
to right hand drive it might have been done by the same company but if they'd
look right it looked exactly like it was supposed to but in terms of just like
everyday pedestrian normal tuners normal car enthusiasts mostly JDM because
they're more affordable sure the proximity to Japan and of course being right
hand drive it translates but that's not to say they don't have them or say
everything that the royals liked the people like how were the roads anywhere to
drive not really you they they don't have a track they used to do drag racing
they used to do like legal drag racing where they would block off the streets
but now for them to go to a race track they have to drive to Malaysia which is
not that far yeah it's like us driving whatever to another state or or even
not even on the island though yes on island so it is possible to drive to a
race track from where they are it is yeah but yeah it is that boasts Oku wagging
with the star-shaped exhaust is insane did you hear this run no no that sounds
like but but it was really cool just to meet so many people face to face that
consume our content that's and they're so far you know it could not get any
further it was so much to get there like it's it was like over 20 hours of
traveling I know you do that stuff all the time it's far I know what far is
yeah yeah and 20 hours are just flying yeah yeah yeah but and and there's there's
the time it takes to fly somewhere and then there's like certain places when
you land you know if I fly 20 hours to certain places it doesn't feel like
I've gone as far as if I go 20 hours to Southeast Asia and I go like I'm
fucking far from home right now you know what I mean oh that that's a that's a good
little Sarah CRD Sarah that looks good so more people should do things with
the Sarah what's also crazy to me is just how how common it is to see the
royals like they especially because where we're staying we were actually
staying very close to the full collection like I could see it I could see the
buildings yeah and even where I was the hotel staying the the hotel staying is
owned by the royals of course and it was so opulent and so nice and so
beautiful was there wasn't that many people there from my understanding there's
just not that many visitors to this place because they just don't really have
that many tourist attractions and one of the things I was publicly talking
about on the radio I went on the radio twice and I was talking about the fact
that they should really open it up for car tourism because I feel like it's
such a draw for us car nerds to be able to see this stuff people will go I
mean they could probably turn that whatever's left of the collection into some
kind of museum that you know people would go some distance to see yeah and it
could bring money to their country yeah that's fucking crazy man how's the
food in Brunei it's like Malaysian food yeah Malaysian and Indonesian food
simple lot of rice but good yeah yeah the is it the kind of place where like like
like optimistic car culture you know what I mean so what do you mean by
optimist like I just mean like they're excited about it they're excited about like
you know sports cars and they and things like that it's in their blood they live
in Brunei that everybody that I met it's it's it's like I know it's just
something that's ingrained in them they love it so much and they they'll love
whatever they can get right and we we're talking about just Toyota
Corolla's that are barely holding together and then they'll do their absolute
best to put it back together or it could be supercar hypercar whatever like
the range it's not like cars like Singapore it's really hard to own sports cars
though is this like that or not really this is much more cheap they don't care fuel is cheap
it's subsidized by the government fuel is I calculated it I think it's about $1.50 per gallon
yeah or less and everybody drives this is unlike any other Southeast East Asian
country in that there's no scooters everybody can afford a car and they the
population also loves the royals they love the government they love the all of
the amenities that's given to them you know so people can drive cars people can
afford nice houses people can afford nice things yeah I can understand a lot of
people like to complain about this place but they've never been there they've
never actually met these people face-to-face I've met thousands of people that
wow is there like you wouldn't believe we calculated it it was almost 3% of the
entire country that went to this car show over two days over 13,000 people paid
$5 five-brunei dollars which is I think $3 yeah US to go to this show to see
cars and also to bring their own car to show their cars in their major
convention center and if you could imagine over 13,000 people or 14,000 people in
a country that's yeah less than half a million people as he has a huge return it's
crazy it was so insane how many people were there that's like what like a
lift does you know but from a national US national and international audience
yeah that's crazy yeah it's crazy it is so cool I'm I'm so glad I got to
experience it and I can't wait for everyone to see this story that's awesome
yeah I can't wait to flip through your phone after I don't know
do I need to get a new point like a like a is there a cool new point in
shoot I need to get like I have a iPhone 16 that I'm like a pro and I actually
really think the camera on it's pretty amazing but it depends on what you're
looking for but right now what's very very hot is that point in shoot look I
don't know if you noticed that yes point in shoot and direct flash look that is
all of a sudden like vintage feeling whereas it's something that we as
photographers I remember that pushed away from yeah yeah but then all of a
sudden it's come back in such a big way I don't know maybe it hides in
perfection or maybe it's just a certain look or maybe it's like the in-between
film and digital is it the mom jeans of photography style yeah I guess just
everything goes in a cycle it's pretty cool I think it's pretty cool there's a
look for it but now it's coming back in such a big way that Canon cannot keep
any of their point in shoot cameras in stock they cannot make them fast
enough like the and people have been hitting me up a lot of people I'm asked
if I can get a hook up for a g7x or something that's crazy it's like they're
they're going backwards yeah but that's okay I think it's cool that they're
embracing this look it's it's like film photography but it's not going that far
well and it's it's an opportunity to not take your phone out which I think at a
certain point people get really sick of their phones and so you're looking for
I want I want to take the picture but I want to be pulling my fucking phone because
then you start putting it on social media and like I want to keep that shit
for later you know yeah it's cool I hate my new phone but I do like the new
camera on it the 16 pro has a good camera I've been impressed with it's you know
people always ask me what what steps do they have to take to get into
photography just use your phone look all the stuff that you just showed on the
screen all of it is with my phone yeah it's just because it's easy you know all of
this stuff and if you really give a shit look the selfie I took with the king that's
on my phone attachments if you really care about your phone if you go one slide
you could see the picture of the guy that started it all or no that's my team
yeah that's me pleading my case that's that's him Jeffrey yeah
both of you look exactly like the guy that you have to convince to get in
somewhere well he's he's honestly kind of like the playboy of the royal family
he has a huge falling on Instagram and I think when he got married collectively
like all of Southeast Asia all the single women just were very upset because
who wouldn't want to marry a prince a good-looking prince that you know has this
priority straight now it's it's it is so I'm just so glad I had a chance to
experience what I experienced and I'm really excited about the story that's
cool man that's a that's a really fun opportunity wow Zach can we go to the
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our guests get the show without ads and a whole lot more Michael says if you
didn't have your R34 what would have been a good JDM choice for the quail
tour how kosca would probably fit in better it's it's tough because I guess it
depends on how much you want to suffer right I didn't suffer at all because we
had air conditioning the cars super comfortable has plenty of storage I guess the
easy answer I'm gonna bring my R32 next year because I feel like there's so
many cars that I could bring but it wouldn't I wouldn't say it wouldn't get
the same attention because I guess it depends on the crowd out there but I
know I just figured it's nice to still have some amenities especially having
to carry all this camera equipment you know to still shoot and do my job while
I'm out there I think it would be fun to have the R32 out there Tim McClaren
says Larry what subculture in the car community challenge your expectations
the most over the years expectations no that's a good what do you think what what
your expectations I mean was there I mean I think I don't know I mean I this
I've never been well I've never been like that surprised by what I saw
compared to what I expected to see it's something that you've been talking about
more and more recently about all of the rest of my companies yeah it's amazing
to me that there is people to support these companies apparently there are most
of them sell pretty small numbers of stuff but I do think there's enough
clients if the goal of this company is to sell 25 cars I think there are 25
people who either have so much money that they just look at it and go yeah one of
those or they are disillusioned enough with the idea of what a modern supercar is
very digital things like that that they are looking for a very raw experience and
if they don't have to sell that many it's just like they could do what the
manufacturers wish they could do sure now certainly yeah I mean if you drive if
you try get to try a singer turbo you know like if I'm Porsche and looking at
them doing a singer turbo I'd be like oh boy that sucks that we can't make this
because they could like they could build that if they wanted to and
were legally allowed to but they can't yeah Porsche can't copy themselves I was
I was thinking about that right Nissan they sun-setted the R35 GTR which we were
very lucky to be able to be a part of we did the last shoot for the cars oh you
did cool and we sent it off they actually invited me to watch the last one go
off the line I was busy I was actually in Bernite when that happened and the
the CEO the current CEO or the new CEO said yeah it'll come back in a certain
form and of course I has to be a certain level of vehicle right it has to
people are gonna expect a certain kind of vehicle if it's a R36 GTR but I
thought to myself man it honestly needs to be slower and lighter and smaller like
it needs to be if it's if it's just faster than everything else then well not
I don't think it needs to get bigger or heavier yeah it could I think making it
smaller and lighter would also make it faster right it's gone to that point
and I know you guys have talked about this also it's gone to the point where you
are already at the limit of how fast it could be so then now what are you
actually chasing you know I don't know and I'm part of the problem because I work
for a car magazine and car magazines put up numbers and people bench race and
then they care and if we stop talking about numbers they might stop caring a
little bit but maybe it needs to be like an Alpine yeah you know I mean
dude I I think that's the best car ever and they don't sell a lot of them so
what do I know yeah I am a huge fan of the Alpine and I mean and I'm and we've
driven some of these amazing boutique level cars I mean that the alpha thing
yeah a lot of weekend the roof stuff and you know even like even yeah you know
some of the replica cobras and stuff like that I mean there's there's a lot of
ways to engage with machinery in an interesting way most of them are
outside of what mainstream car makers are selling right now juice control
the weather tech that's it's a trust me that's an innocent joke Larry what is
the weirdest or scariest thing that you've been hit by on the job I imagine a
few pieces of race car or debris oh I've gotten hit by a lot of things rubber
projectiles like what when you're shooting NASCAR at a super oval or super
speedway they they kick up rocks that are going just as fast as the cars and it's
insane like they dent my big lenses they'll they'll hit certain well if they hit
your face obviously it stings like crazy yeah it's probably just like the
smallest micropebble but I think I've talked about this before the BB gun yeah
yeah I always wear either goggles or sunglasses or something because I know I
just know you know these things are going that fast I think I said this story
before on this podcast but we've actually gotten hit by rocks while we're in a
helicopter chasing about a 1000 vehicle because they shoot up the rocks so
high that they hit our windshield and it's like okay now it's time to go high
yeah I was hit by in New Zealand in 2015 I was hit in the nuts with a fucking
racket ball sized rock that was kicked up by a rally car wow and tall
saw you someone was flying the drone and got the got it on the drone the footage
existed somewhere of you just doubling over and falling on the ground it was
fucked up you yeah you expect the gravel machine gun for sure I've actually
gotten hit by Ryan Turk in his drift car but it was only because he did a burnout
and I was behind him and I was about to shoot him leaving and then he decided to
put him reverse and back up because I guess he heard something or like there
was some kind of imbalance on his wheels so he basically just drove straight
into me knocked me over I think that was the only time I ever got hit by a car
and now no matter what when I'm on the starting line of anything could be drag
racing could be in a tray or whatever I don't stand behind the cars because they
could always be in reverse yeah yeah yeah so anytime I'm anywhere and I see
people just routed around the car as they're about to launch I'm like one of
these days it's gonna be a reverse and you guys are all gonna get
friend of ours to push it backwards into Tom's tripod in like twenty fourteen
or something yeah yeah yeah you can do it it happens you can actually I you
must by now you must not be able to activate launch control of the cars in
reverse I don't know but you can still load you can still load the chassis the gear
is short for reverse I mean it flings so I noticed the sound was different and
it wasn't launch control and that's how he knew to move oh and then
yeah lucky oh misfit cyclone if someone gave you an autographed poster of your
heroes or people you looked up to in the automotive world who are they I don't
know why they had to come up with the autographed poster thing but basically who
do you look up to I it's it's the people that I'm the people that I look up to
on the people that I work with now the people that inspire me in the industry
now the people that are creating alongside me I think those those are the
people that I look up to because it makes me really happy when I look at the
entire landscape of automotive media I look at the variety that's out there
and the really good content that's out there that is so different that I wasn't
even a part of or I didn't even know about it makes me happy that all of those
can exist individually and I'd love to consume it you know it's super cool it
inspires me because I hope it's the other way around you know I hope I'm creating
stuff that people are enjoying and people are are consuming and I think
that's really it it's a lot of photographers will say oh so and so
photographer you know a long time ago they had a great style whatever I feel
like it's the people that I'm in the trenches with now that that inspire me
because what we're all doing it together you know we all have essentially the
same access because we're in the same timeline there yeah sounds good I don't
know anything about cayenne hybrids Timay says this morning the Nissan and
Zenismo is confirmed receiving manual transmission you just check that exact to
make sure it is okay good what are your expectations and how much more
desirable is the NISMO with three pedals a lot more is a lot it's they fixed it
that's called fixing it I don't really get I don't really like this
backtracking I don't get why they waited this long maybe it's like the whole Toyota
thing it was dumb I don't know but but when I went on the launch I was like what
you guys doing like don't rule it out I was like all right but like this that's
stupid you should have just done it but can I answer that first one yeah you
want to answer that question you like that top question go for it I that's a
I would that's a that's a question I would throw straight in the garbage really
why I hate those comparisons oh well he doesn't he did inspire me Anthony
the question is do you see yourself as the Anthony Bourdain of car culture I don't
the part of that question I would throw away you see yourself well nobody should
ever fucking see themselves that way right I think yeah I mean for me it's
more just his storytelling and his what he did for that culture like that a lot
of those people a lot of those individuals have inspired me to tell the stories
though the way I do but I definitely don't see myself as I'm you know I'm my
own person I tell it but I'm a photographer that is lucky to be able to do
what I do you know for a living yeah I learned I learned a long time ago that
yeah he's he's dead he was very good at his job and inspired people but like
you don't you don't nobody should want to pick up that and and and think of
himself that way it's a recipe for failure is this is this the last one of the
bottom granny shifting not oh we got a bunch of is there keep going down I want
to see I want good ones I want good ones quadrufolio face how critical is it to a
car being clean perfectly detailed when we're not talking about close-ups this is
something that I run into all the time sometimes you just don't have the time
sometimes it's impossible so sometimes you just have to shoot around it polarizer filter is
your friend you can get rid of a lot of reflections you can get rid of a lot of
dirt and dust and sometimes it's okay to leave that stuff because especially if
you're shooting a vehicle that is supposed to be off-road or supposed to get dirty I think it adds
to the story I think that's pretty cool to show some brake dust to show somewhere yeah yeah and
if if you're not taking close-ups the car can be a little dusty and it won't make much of a
difference I mean you should see when we when we're at the magazine and we're doing these big
you know group tests and group shots we do the jankiest fucking job of cleaning these cars we
have we don't have like people to do it we're doing it and we have other things going on so it's
literally like rip the quick detail you know the car has been on track all day yeah and it's like
give me a half a bottle a quick detailer and a half used fucking microfiber and okay what I can get
you know cleaning one side of the car at the time jankies hell no one ever notices no one ever says
anything um let's see uh this might we never talk about this auto bon Jovi says what's Larry's
typical routine while flying how do you relax while traveling or do you relax or do you work on
planes uh I guess it depends if I get upgraded yeah right if I have the space I'll try to do work and
if there's a reliable internet connection I can bang out emails or I can review videos I can do
work but if I'm cramped up which most of the time I am then I'll just enjoy movies it's honestly
the only time now that I can watch movies and TV shows so I just load up my iPad or or tablet I
I have a Samsung tablet that I I'm just like that guy that the iPad dad you know what I'm
carrying this big tablet uh and uh yeah I just kind of enjoy my time that I can finally disconnect
whereas if I had the space I just have to push myself like hey I've got to get worked on because by
the time I land you got you guys know how this is yeah so many another day's gone by yeah yeah it's
the things don't stop because you're in the fucking air um oh question for like Kurt says what
tracks should we do H PDE at in the south we'll be trailing uh new GT3 from Boston over the course
of a week and a half currently looking at VIR and road Atlanta what other good tracks are there
in the south um Carolina Motorsports Park is pretty fun um that would be a pretty good time in a GT3
and it's uh it's say oh can you get on the new one flat rock outside of Knoxville if it's open
and you can get on it it's a brand new one can you see if that's open yet flat rock Motorsports Park
in Tennessee looked really nice it looked like a good one um see if you can drive a NASCAR track
yeah like a Charlotte Charlotte Motor Speedway or Talladega Daytona would be so cool Daytona is awesome
you were done track Daytona Daytona I just did a endurance race of 14 hour endurance oh really
yeah driving what meana oh is it fun man there's nothing like getting pushed into your seat on the
bank dude there's so much foot to the floor even in a meana I I feel like there was just so much
g-force pushing you down and turn one at that on that configuration which is the 24 hour
configuration is so sketchy turn one where you come off the bank into the infield that is so sketch
because you're turning meana where you have actually some decent suspension travel to absorb that
it's it's such an easy track to drive but it's hard to get the time out of it and I had the most
fun driving it I bet I bet 97% of your lap is floorboard yes so which is why it's hard to get
that last yeah whatever half a second yeah you know the bus stop if you mess that up you're you lose
so much time sure you have to do it perfect every single time and especially in a meana in a meana
what what generation and D uh it was an NC but it had like a some I don't know four motor I think
okay yeah it was a five speed or six speed it was a paddle shift it had a ZF eight speed yeah get
the fuck out of here in a meana yeah super cool oh a lot of fun oh well it's certainly easier to
nail the bus stop if you're not doing a five four down shift also yeah yeah oh fun it was it was
fun it was my first race where I actually had to do driver changes at speed oh yeah because uh
they didn't have a minimum yeah you you uh like you've done endurance racing where it's like
there's a certain time you have to yeah to get out and then you belt in and whatever you take your time
right I've never done that you oh you've never done driver changes yeah yeah but lemons there's
driver changes right oh yeah but they're slow right that's what I'm saying at the at the entry
level series in order to make sure everybody is safely belted in and not rushing they go your
pit stop is a four-minute minimum yeah you know so take your time fueling take your time you
level everyone straight down yeah yeah what you're talking about on the front I'm talking about
what series was that WRL oh cool so coming into the pits like as fast as you can go hit the pit
limiter hold that sucker down and it's just no cooler feeling then going down the pits pit limiter
and then you're you're taking off your belts I'm taking off my drink thing everything like one
thing at a time it's like okay I have to remember to do all of this and then as soon as I land
there they basically yank me out of the car you know oh it's just so cool it's easier for me to get
out then to get in because I'm almost certainly bigger than the person who's getting in after me
so I don't have to loosen anything I can just go off and and then the next person can cinch
from there so I often when I race on these I do I'll take starts and then the super fast guy will
come in you know after me and they can just do do do do real real fast I'm doing WRL in in
December at Coda enjoy it it's going to be fucking sad yeah that's a good time at Daytona
in the Miata that's a lot of full throttle it was fun how did you go in the race uh we we all we
got all the way up to second in our glass and uh unfortunately the transmission failed
fucking CF I know our nine we but we were doing really well yeah the first I feel like they had a
ringer car uh and then we were talking about a motor swap and a German gearbox let's go it was
fast car it was fun it was just we had better fuel economy so we just stayed out there and we were
doing up to two hours since oh nice and it was really hot it was in the middle of summer um so of
course we ran a cool suit but oh my god it was still so hot it was like crazy it must have been
but you have high speed so that helps because of good air flow and if you're rolling a cool suit
cool suits are the jam yeah it it helped but um two more cool suits probably done so by about hour
hour yeah it was it was very difficult it was uh the like I could barely walk after I got out
two hours long it's a long stint so anyway Kurt Daytona try to do a NASCAR track
VIR and road Atlanta are great is that rock open it open can we get some photos of it how does it
look I really want to try this one uh we're going to have to use it for one of our road and track
events it's been about to open pretty soon pretty uh I'm sorry it's been about to open for like
three years that looks pretty cool uh elevation looks nice we've got eight twenty twenty three
corners wow any photos yeah rolling rolling Tennessee hills I have to make a stop and check that
one out well have to get a report from Sam he's almost certainly driven this course shot at the
Sam Smith um yeah look at that con I see condos okay I see I see oh one one post to the left has a
good uh it was a good race or down has a good rail looks good look at that wow looks nice that's
incredible all right oh wait so I heard about this place yeah we're gonna check this out they're close
to think noxville noxville okay yeah hell yeah noxville is a great town that's awesome that's a
fun fucking then right by tail the dragon this makes me so happy that there's more tracks than I can
drive there's so many tracks we hear about tracks closing all the times but new tracks are opening up
all the time also it's very rare that like a really good track and really good ones are opening
yeah there are really wait did you see if you've been to willow yet you've seen streets uh I was
just there a while they're repaving it but then I saw the photos of the finished streets it looks
unbelievable I can't wait you're coming on the 11th October 11th it's the same time as the
Japanese classic our show I would love to go okay I'll be there October 11th uh blurple last one
and then we're out of here says are there any cool new cannon items coming out that you can talk
about not that I could talk about I I know some things are coming up that we'll excite a lot of
video nerds but I am really excited because I'm going to Japan to check out the cannon lens factory
so that's not bad yeah I've been doing a lot of these deep dives in terms of like how things are
made right so we just did one where I showed how RS want an obey wheels are getting made right
it's like I saw that it was sick very like honestly ancient technology yeah right 65 year old
process it is it is handmade look it's so crazy yeah it's there's no secret like that that kind of
thing it's a lot easier to get made with a modern process but that's not the point right that
that's not the point you know people still want handmade things because of the story yeah um so
I want to kind of do the same thing with the cannon lens factory and just show what I can show
uh I don't know I've never been so I have to see the process I know they have to
grow the fluoride lens all right they have to like use some kind of process to to grow it
um so so uh yeah I think it's some kind of like chemical process I've never given a single thought
to how lenses are made I mean I'm sure it's awesome yeah exactly so I bet it's like a watch
factory I bet it seems like that I don't know I mean have you been to a watch factory yeah a bunch
and is it like chaotic or is it no it's like it's like a hospital right yeah very clean and yeah
and and some of the smaller ones are just individual benches and some of the more advanced ones the
benches are set up with a sort of a conveyor belt type of system um and some of them one watchmaker
will build a whole watch start finish and other ones it's a little more you know I just install
column wheels I just install winding crowns whatever um but uh I don't know I I don't know why I
picture lenses being like that but maybe not have you been to a vehicle plant yet yeah a bunch of
they're fucking cool man nothing's like a car factory I recently I had a chance to go to the
Tahara um where they do like the GX 550 and the LC250 Lankerser plant in Japan I also had a chance
to go to the Toyota plant in Texas I never understood how easy it was to assemble a car until I
watch these guys as like put on a bumper in 15 seconds and meanwhile I'm over here struggling
if I had a remove or take take off a bumper and put it back on it would take an entire day yeah
yeah yeah just for me to do one something yeah when they have the exact right tool in the exact
right place with the exact right thing to do this and the exact right thing and they do it you
know a hundred times a day for a hundred years and the clips aren't 25 years old yeah that's the big
done yeah yeah yeah it's crazy yeah yeah and how sometimes how little physical motion is required to
you know install the thing and it's yeah you should you should try if you can I mean the different
the the different ethoses of car factories if you go from like McLaren to the biggest contrast is
McLaren to Morgan those are my favorite and you could do both in a day actually we're talking about
wood spaceship and a fucking woodshed yeah totally it's amazing um of course that's cool and then
Ferrari is also cool like they do more mass production aren't just to see how they pack things into
a certain size building and like you know the conveyor snake around and like as the body joins you
know the subframe and the engine and that stuff I find it fascinating now in the Ferrari factory
there's like a little rainforest to keep the humidity right because of just the way it affects
yeah yeah yeah so so but then were you able to film there no right I would love to film
they didn't let you take pictures inside no really oh yeah they're they're pretty strict about it
for I think there are people maybe not Ferrari Corvette would death they we filmed in Corvette we
did literally film in the Corvette plan that's awesome the coolest part of the Corvette plant is like
the high performance engine room like where all the zero six engines are made by hand by like six
people I got very sad when they told me they didn't get to try the cars though I was like you build
zero six engines all day I was like they don't let you try one they're like no never I was like yeah
that's a bummer I feel like they'd be real enthusiastic about work if they knew what they were building
yeah you know yeah um dude the book is amazing thank you get it get it wherever you can get it but if
you can get it directly from career books or have your local book seller order it it is very heavy
it's eight pounds four hundred and five pages it's very heavy yeah it's it's a hefty one it is a it is
a true coffee table book it is the the grand tradition of the car coffee table book it is a good
representation of my life's work yeah it took 21 years to make that book that's it's also good
representation of this era of car culture yeah I mean that too it kind of didn't exist really 20
years ago and much of other things it's it's such a good cross section of like this is what
racing in the 2010s you know was and here's what pro touring and tuning culture and all this stuff
I hope people come up to you wherever you are and ask you to sign my book of your page
I would I think I think that well if people are carrying this around the hopes that I am
they're running they run into me to sign it these dusty baha ones are gorgeous I'm going to
bring my book to your signing I'll just stand in line like a well you should certainly sign this one
while you're oh yeah yeah that's a good point yeah that's one that's an artist proof yeah this
one we're gonna keep here this one is for us so if you come visit us here at West Side
collector car storage you can come look at it for yourself um and Larry will sign this one that's
fucking sick dude of course Larry's videos for haggardy on YouTube when do you have I mean it's
gonna be a while for the Bruno I think I've been working on it since I was working on it on the
plane on the way back like I was you know writing my voice over writing all the notes we're digging
into it pretty deep in fact we went through all the footage yesterday cool yeah so that'll be
up probably you know soonish yeah and the the Watanabe factory tour at a on the haggardy
channel is really crazy it looks like it looks like they've been making wheels this way since like
the 1800s it's not well they've been making swords yeah yeah yeah yeah you know I have a set of
those oh you do my wife's pal no one's on it yeah so like literally these guys made your
it's crazy the sandals they're real they're probably worth more than the car but they're awesome
they look great yeah yeah yeah thanks Larry thank you it's good to see you man I appreciate it
and let's let's find a time to take pictures of the of the of the manks I would love that yeah I
shot a couple photos of it out there that I think at one point it was like in the sand pit right mine
wasn't they had another one yeah yeah but yeah it was it was right there arrangement that you had
around that sand trap they what's weird about about uh my car is like you know most cars when you
like hose them you know it's like a front three quarter kind of thing my car because the engine is so
weird you're always like nosing it in and sticking the ass out the back um but people then are like
wait what what is that that that's weird and we we definitely have to do a flaw and shoot with that
it was good yeah we're everywhere on the beach wherever you like to go bro and of course um if
you go to Larry Chen photo dot com you can get prints oh uh yeah um right it's Larry Chen
prints oh Larry Chen prints dot com sorry get prints from Larry can I just thank you so much again
uh like right out of the shutdown right out of the shutdown time you gave me a shout out when I
came on the show and we sold a hundred prints we sold ten thousand dollars with a prince one day
thanks to you oh that's great so you really helped around that time you know we just couldn't get
work right uh so just that one shout out from you have moved the needles so big uh that's awesome
tang you basically just gave me ting read I didn't the people yeah the people that I just told
them how to do it but that's all right there's that fucking chance I appreciate it I think and
there's my car yeah there's your car uh in a photo that you can never get again how about that um
yeah go buy prints they're amazing they last forever and uh and you can display them in your home
in a variety of ways and uh and they're awesome people will ask you about them as they do about
the one here and the one in and the ones here and the one in my house all the time um dude and then
we'll see you you'll be at the Peterson Museum on October 5th at the cruise in doing the book
signing yes bring your car come on out that who in the corn one sick uh and then at uh long beach
yeah downtown parking garage October 16th I will be there what vehicle we have is TBD whatever is
whatever is what we'll look at the coolest we'll see um but uh yeah thanks to our patrons for
their questions today thanks to everybody else for listening and we'll see you later
About this episode
Larry Chen joins the Smoking Tire podcast to discuss his new book, 'Life at Shutter Speed,' which chronicles his journey as a car photographer over the past two decades. The conversation dives into his experiences, including a remarkable trip to Brunei where he met the Sultan and explored the royal car collection. Chen shares insights on the evolution of his photography style, the significance of storytelling in car culture, and the excitement surrounding upcoming car events. The episode is filled with anecdotes about his adventures and the vibrant car community he engages with.
Larry Chen is one of the most skilled and famous automotive photographers of this generation. His clients include auto companies, race car drivers, organizers, events, and everything in between. Most recently, he's known for his video series on Hagerty that showcases car culture around the world. From underground clubs in Tokyo to royalty in Asia, American muscle collectors to wheel makers, the show is a true look at every corner of the automotive world.
Today Larry brings us the amazing story of how he got access to the Sultan of Brunei's cars; Larry's new photo book; and what it was like seeing his own Nissan GT-R featured on the prestigious lawn of The Quail.
Larry's show: https://youtu.be/TWhimSwbxE4
Patreon questions include:
Car communities that challenged his expectations
Getting hit in the face by cars
Which point-and-shoot to get
Automotive personalities that inspire him
The Nissan Z Nismo manual
Should he upgrade from his Supra to a different camera car?
Is he Anthony Bourdain?
And more!
Recorded September 3, 2025
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