{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"Life-Changing Work in the Accessible Vehicle Industry with Bob Leonard","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/life-changing-work-in-the-accessible-vehicle-industry-with-bob-leonard","audioUrl":"https://media.transistor.fm/23a053b8/b7001afd.mp3","description":"\n        Like the show? Show your support by using our sponsors. Promotive can help you find your dream job. Touch HERE to see open jobs.  Need to update your shop systems and software? Try Tekmetric HERERegister NOW for Tekmetric's Tektonic Conference coming up HEREIn this episode, Jeff Compton sits down with Bob Leonard from Mobility Works to delve into the specialized world of vehicle modifications for people with physical disabilities. Bob shares insights into the unique regulatory landscape and technical requirements affecting mobility vehicle conversions, including the importance of following strict certification rules and working closely with certified evaluators. The conversation highlights the technician shortage in the mobility industry, the blend of mechanical and electrical skills required, and the impactful difference these vehicles make in the lives of customers.Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to The Jaded Mechanic&nbsp;00:40 Live at ASTA 2025: Meet Bob Leonard from Mobility Works 01:59 What is Mobility Works? The Mission and Services Explained 03:13 Types of Modifications: Minivans, Hand Controls, and High-Tech Installs 05:58 Certification and Audit Processes in Mobility Vehicle Service 08:46 Repairing or Correcting Others’ Work: Challenges in Mobility Vehicle Service 11:22 Prescriptions, Regulations &amp; Working with Certified Evaluators 14:19 How Modifications Affect Standard Vehicle Repairs 16:35 Diagnosing Issues When Factory Systems and Modified Controls Meet 19:06 Adapting to EVs and Hybrids in the Mobility Industry 22:04 The Human Side: Fittings, Customer Stories &amp; Building Trust 25:48 Technician Shortages &amp; The Specialized Skills Required 29:08 Training, Following Procedures, and the Role of Inspections 32:38 Troubleshooting Wiring, Diagnostics, and Common Mistakes 36:58 Customer Impact: Independence, Freedom, and Lasting Relationships 41:12 Insurance, Rentals, and the Cost of Mobility Vehicle Ownership 45:42 Body Shop Challenges: Repairs, Estimating, and Crash-Tested Parts 51:02 Advice for Technicians: Approach, Caution, and Knowing When to Call Experts 54:59 The Growing Mobility Market &amp; Emerging Trends 57:01 Life-Changing Mobility Solutions: Why This Work Matters 01:02:57 Wrap-Up: Spreading Awareness &amp; Educating Technicians\nFollow/Subscribe to the show on social media!&nbsp;TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@jeffcompton7YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheJadedMechanicFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091347564232\n      "},"annotations":[{"startTime":196.1,"endTime":199.8,"type":"car","title":"Chrysler Grand Caravan","url":"/cars/dodge/grand-caravan","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Chrysler_Grand_Voyager_Limited_RT_Bright_Silver_Metallic_%281%29.jpg","quote":"...sometimes green caravans are still being done.","canonicalId":"car:dodge:grand-caravan","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The Chrysler Grand Caravan is another popular minivan that has been used for family transport and accessibility modifications. 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It is essential for mechanics and parts suppliers to accurately identify and source the correct parts for repairs or replacements.","simplifiedExplanation":"A part number is like a special code for car parts. It helps people find the right part when they need to fix or replace something in a car."}},{"startTime":834.6,"endTime":837.74,"type":"term","title":"NFS process","url":"/glossary/nfs-process","quote":"But the other thing is, if we get a, if we trade something straight in or we, wherever they get it, we have what's known as the NFS process.","canonicalId":"term:nfs-process","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.8,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The NFS process refers to a specific procedure used in the automotive industry, often related to the handling of vehicle trades or inventory management. It typically involves assessing and processing vehicles that come into a dealership or repair shop, ensuring they meet certain standards before being resold or serviced.","simplifiedExplanation":"The NFS process is a way that car dealers handle cars they get in trade. It helps them check the cars and decide what to do with them next."}},{"startTime":1020.86,"endTime":1023.14,"type":"car","title":"Dodge Grand","url":"/cars/dodge/grand-caravan","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/2011_Dodge_Grand_Caravan_Mainstreet_--_02-17-2011.jpg","quote":"...if it's a Dodge Grand Caravan, it's going to leak. The hoses are going to leak...","canonicalId":"car:dodge:grand-caravan","priority":0.5,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The Dodge Grand Caravan is a minivan known for its spacious interior and family-friendly features. 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It's there to protect the car and can be taken off to fix things behind it."}},{"startTime":1083.6,"endTime":1087.0,"type":"part","title":"fuel pump ground","url":"/glossary/fuel-pump-ground","quote":"...modified floor pan had moved the fuel pump ground.","canonicalId":"part:fuel-pump-ground","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.8,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The fuel pump ground is a critical electrical connection that ensures the fuel pump operates correctly. If this ground is modified or moved, it can lead to issues with fuel delivery.","simplifiedExplanation":"The fuel pump ground is a wire that helps the fuel pump work properly. If it's not connected right, the pump might not get the power it needs to send fuel to the engine."}},{"startTime":1088.78,"endTime":1093.88,"type":"car","title":"Chrysler Pacifica","url":"/cars/chrysler/pacifica","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/%2707_Chrysler_Pacifica.jpg","quote":"...and I have a slide that shows you the inside of a Pacifica from the factory.  Yeah.","canonicalId":"car:chrysler:pacifica","priority":0.5,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The Chrysler Pacifica is a versatile minivan known for its spacious interior, advanced technology, and family-friendly features. It has gained popularity for its hybrid variant, which offers improved fuel efficiency and eco-friendliness. The Pacifica is often discussed for its innovative design and practicality for modern families.","simplifiedExplanation":"The Chrysler Pacifica is a family minivan that has lots of room for passengers and cargo. 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They make sure the fuel mixes well with air for better performance."}},{"startTime":2135.0,"endTime":2140.0,"type":"term","title":"hybrid vehicles","url":"/glossary/hybrid-vehicles","quote":"...plenty in controls and left for gas bottles in hybrid vehicles. Yeah.","canonicalId":"term:hybrid-vehicles","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"Hybrid vehicles combine a conventional internal combustion engine with an electric propulsion system. This combination allows for improved fuel efficiency and reduced emissions compared to traditional vehicles.","simplifiedExplanation":"Hybrid vehicles use both a gas engine and an electric motor to run. This helps them save fuel and produce less pollution than regular cars."}},{"startTime":2142.0,"endTime":2144.0,"type":"term","title":"full EVs","url":"/glossary/full-evs","quote":"...and full EVs. 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They are known for their advanced technology and are popular for being environmentally friendly."}},{"startTime":3309.2,"endTime":3312.5,"type":"car","title":"Chrysler Town & Country","url":"/cars/chrysler/town-country","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/1966_Chrysler_Town_%26_Country%2C_photo-6.jpg","quote":"I can still remember an older Chrysler caravan. I don't remember if it was a town and country or what.","canonicalId":"car:chrysler:town-country","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The Chrysler Town & Country is a minivan that was produced by Chrysler, known for its spacious interior and family-friendly features. The 2006 model is part of the last generation of this vehicle before it was discontinued in 2016.","simplifiedExplanation":"The Chrysler Town & Country is a family minivan that was popular for its roominess and comfort. The 2006 version had features that made it great for families, but it also had some common issues.","imageAttribution":"AlfvanBeem (CC0)"}},{"startTime":3904.9,"endTime":3909.7,"type":"car","title":"Chevy Silverado","url":"/cars/chevrolet/silverado","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/2022_Chevrolet_Silverado_1500_Z71.png","quote":"...and you weigh 225 pounds. I want you to tell me how you're getting into your Chevy Silverado. So when I tell you, don't break these things.","canonicalId":"car:chevrolet:silverado","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The Chevy Silverado is a full-size pickup truck known for its durability and versatility, often used for both work and personal purposes.","simplifiedExplanation":"The Chevy Silverado is a popular truck made by Chevrolet. 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