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Off the Record
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Avantz
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Discount Tire
Discount Tire is a store that sells and installs tires. The sponsor is saying members get a discount there.
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Michelin
Michelin makes tires. In this ad, they’re saying members get extra discounts on Michelin tires.
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Griots Garage
Griots Garage sells car cleaning and detailing products. The membership includes a gift card you can use toward those supplies.
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Legends cars
Legends cars are small race cars that are built to be pretty similar to each other. They’re designed for close, fun racing on oval tracks.
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roll cage
A roll cage is a strong metal safety frame inside the car. It helps protect the driver if the car flips or crashes hard.
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supercars
A supercar is a very high-end, very fast sports car. It’s usually built to be exciting to drive, not just to get you from A to B.
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lapping
Lapping means driving around the track over and over. It’s how you test how a car behaves lap after lap.
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NASCAR
NASCAR is a popular American racing series where cars race on mostly oval tracks. The speakers are joking about how the sport’s early roots were tied to illegal “bootlegging” culture.
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IMSA grid
IMSA is a big racing organization in North America. The “grid” is basically the list of cars/drivers that show up to race. Here they’re using it as a punchline about a whole group of teams.
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International Marijuana Smugglers Association
That phrase is a joke version of a real racing acronym. Instead of IMSA meaning a motorsports organization, they’re pretending it stands for marijuana smugglers. It’s meant to be funny wordplay, not a real organization.
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Le Mans
Le Mans is a legendary long-distance race—cars race for 24 hours straight. It’s one of the biggest events in motorsports. The hosts mention it to make the joke feel tied to real top-level racing.
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rookie of the year
“Rookie of the year” is an award for the best new driver in a racing league. It usually goes to someone in their first season who performs really well.
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no sponsors
Sponsors are companies that pay for a racing team and get their name on the car or driver. “No sponsors” means the team wasn’t getting that usual financial support.
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offshore power boat racing
This is boat racing on open water, not a closed course. The boats are built for very high speeds and rough conditions, so driving skill and boat setup matter a lot.
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Blue Thunder
“Blue Thunder” is the boat name in this story. The speaker says it was supposed to help customs catch smugglers, but the boats ended up helping the smugglers instead.
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Daytona 500
The Daytona 500 is a huge NASCAR race in Florida. It’s one of the biggest stock-car events of the year.
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F1
F1 is the highest level of open-wheel racing. Teams build and manage cars under tight rules, and they also deal with branding and special projects.
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high down force kit
A “high down force kit” adds aerodynamic parts that push the car harder onto the road. That helps the tires grip better when you’re going fast, especially through turns. If it’s taken off later, the car will feel less planted at speed.
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Mac Tools
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franchisees
A franchisee is basically an owner who runs a business using someone else’s proven brand and rules. Instead of starting from scratch, you follow their setup and sell to customers in your area.
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ButcherBox
ButcherBox is a service that delivers meat to your home on a regular basis. The host is talking about it as part of a sponsored segment.
Car
1998 Diablo
A Lamborghini Diablo is a famous supercar from Lamborghini. This one is a 1998 model, and the episode is talking about which version it is (like SV or VS).
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Hagerty
Hagerty is a company that focuses on collector cars. They do things like insurance and advice, so when someone says “Hagerty doesn’t cover it,” they mean it’s outside what Hagerty typically handles.
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Bugatti
Bugatti is the luxury/supercar brand known for extreme performance and high-end ownership experiences. Here, it’s mentioned because Bugatti posted the owner’s car on Instagram, tying the story to brand visibility and the car’s identity.
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provenance
Provenance is the documented history of a vehicle—ownership, service records, and notable events. For rare cars like the Bugatti Veyron, provenance can strongly affect collector interest and resale value.
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Ford
Ford is a big car company in the U.S. Here, they’re talking about Ford’s CEO and his podcast about cars and motivation.
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tinted headlights
Tinted headlights are headlights that are darkened with film or a tinted lens. They can look cool, but they may make it harder to see at night.
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Carbon roofs
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All right, folks, on this episode of the podcast,
Zach and I are just outside of Charlotte, North Carolina,
at the 10-tenths Motor Club,
a beautiful, beautiful private racetrack
just next to Charlotte Motor Speedway.
And we are entertaining the crowd here
at the Heritage Invitational,
which is a sort of Goodwood-esque event,
which has IROC racing,
a pro-am with celebrity racing drivers
like Bill Elliot, Mark Martin, Scott Pruitt, Tommy Kendall,
and more, paired up for a little head-to-head battle.
And there's a car show, concourse.
Very cool event happens every April out there in Charlotte,
and they had us out to entertain their people.
And so we talked about our favorite crimes in racing.
We made fun of some of the people of Charlotte's cars,
and we had some great insight from our pals,
Ed Bolian and Willan Jackson
of the YouTube channel, Captain Crankshaft.
It's live at the Heritage Invitational.
Let's get to it.
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What's happening, everybody?
Three people are really excited,
and the rest of you are like,
I gotta listen to this guy now.
Who are these people?
If you can't see us, this is not budget Seth Rogen talking.
Although if you've got 50 bucks,
I will absolutely be budget Seth Rogen for 15 minutes.
This is the Smoking Tire podcast.
If you've never heard of me,
I'm Matt, Matt Farah is the name.
This is Zach Clappin right here.
Howdy, everybody.
And believe it or not, we do this for a living.
You wouldn't know it to look at us,
but that guy bought our shirt, so it must be real.
That proves it's real.
That's definitely real.
We're gonna do a bit later called Roast Your Car.
So if you want us to make fun of your car,
it has to be your car.
So you have to send a picture to this email address.
It proves it's your car, and then we'll make fun of it.
We prefer it to be your car, but if we're not checking,
I mean, let's be honest.
So a car that could plausibly be your car
is where we're at right now.
This is a really amazing event.
Thank you to the Smith family, and of course, Rick Hendrick,
and 10-tenths crew for setting us up down here
with this gig.
This morning we got to the track early
before most of y'all got here,
and we got to rip some Legends cars on the track.
If you guys don't know what Legends cars are,
I mean, we're in Charlotte, so I imagine many you do,
but the folks at home, these are like
two-thirds-sized race cars.
Yeah, it's a grocery cart with a motorcycle engine,
and they tell you it has a roll cage in it, which it does.
In theory, it does have a roll cage,
which you almost tested this morning.
That's true, I did, but all the Legends spin.
Where's Tommy?
Yeah. He can vouch for me.
Real drivers, push.
And so we got to have a go with these things.
I think, are they still over there?
Yeah.
I think they're still parked over there.
You guys have to go check these things out.
They're like 25,000 bucks new,
and we test supercars literally for a living.
That's actually our job.
These things rip.
They rev to like 11.5 sequential gearbox.
They weigh 1,200 pounds, and they are twitchy.
It's like bull riding on a fleet.
Yeah, I think if you can drive one of those successfully,
after that, anything else is easy mode.
Yeah, absolutely.
But it's definitely the most fun per penny, really,
not per dollar, because they're pretty cheap.
And I was in one car.
Zach was in another car.
We were lapping, lapping, lapping.
I came in for a break, because if you can tell,
how do you think someone this size
fits in a two-third scale car?
The answer is I do, but it's ugly.
It's ugly, friends.
It's not a complimentary angle on video,
and I have to drive barefoot,
which if the car catches on fire or I crash,
that could be quite painful.
I think those cars were made for children,
and then we have taken them because they're more fun,
because it wasn't that easy for me to get in it either.
Well, as I came in and took a little rest,
I had a thought of how long will it
take me to get out of this car?
And so when I got out, I tried to get out as quick as I could.
I would die in a fire, folks.
I mean, I would absolutely be dead in a fire.
I would not make it out under pressure.
It would be horrible.
You'd be like cooking ham in the can.
I got out of this car in the order of body parts of mine
that touched the ground.
Normally, it would just be foot, and then other foot.
No, no, no, my friends.
For me to get out of a legend's car, left hand.
These are parts of your body that touch the ground
in this order.
Left hand, right hand, left elbow, left hip, left knee,
right knee, left foot, right foot.
It's effectively a, who's seen the Wolf of Wall Street?
Right, you're Leonardo DiCaprio.
I'm the inverse of Leonardo DiCaprio
getting into that Lamborghini is me getting out
of one of those cars.
Steve Mattens.
Sparko, Sparko, and trying to crawl out of your on fire.
Oh my god, that's, speaking of crimes.
Yeah, yeah, let's go.
We had a thought, you know, NASCAR,
the foundations of NASCAR are obviously
well documented in crime, bootlegging, right?
It's like, they were so good at the crimes,
they made it a sport.
Like, we should all be so lucky with our crimes.
I mean, I've done a lot of crimes in my life.
None of them were a competitive sport,
and frankly, I regret that.
But we thought, you know, because the legends cars
sort of look like old bootlegger cars,
and because, you know, NASCAR has its history in that.
Racing, as an enterprise, has bred many criminals.
Like, racing and crime really, really go well together,
partially because it's so expensive.
You know, regular people have to do crimes to do it.
And many people, the draw of racing is so powerful
that people will beg, borrow, and steal in order to do it.
And that has resulted in a whole bunch of, like,
very funny racing crime.
Absolutely, especially decades ago
when it was a little harder to enforce such crime.
Right, yes.
When there weren't video cameras on everything,
and you know, and we weren't giving away
our privacy all the time.
And so, we thought we would come up with a list
of our favorite motorsport-adjacent crimes.
And there's some pretty dark ones in there, folks.
We left them out.
There's some really terrible people
that have been behind the wheel of a race car,
and for the most part, we only kept the funny ones in.
So, the biggest one, the most obvious racing crimes,
is effectively the entire 1986 IMSA grid, right?
Everyone sort of knows about this.
They called it the International Marijuana Smugglers Association.
That was the acronym.
It was very funny in the 80s,
especially the early to mid-80s.
They smuggled weed, which is not very spatially efficient.
They got better and smarter at this later,
but you've got a John Paul Sr. and John Paul Jr.
that raced at Le Mans, all on drug money.
And you've got Randy Lanier, who wrote this amazing book.
Oh my God, what's Randy's book name?
Survival of the Fastest.
It's called Survival of the Fastest.
Randy Lanier, if you've never heard of him,
was a 1986 Indy car, a rookie of the year,
driving a blank white car.
He had no sponsors.
He was doing the duffel shuffle up and down the East Coast.
This guy bought a whole barge, a container barge,
and filled it with 1,000 tons of weed.
And he put all of that money into his racing team.
And he actually won the IMSA championship in 1986.
Now, what's funny about that, he did it with no sponsors.
He called his team Blue Thunder Racing.
Does anybody know the inside joke of Blue Thunder Racing?
What that name is really from?
No? Great, I'll tell you.
There was a guy called Ben Kramer,
who raced offshore power boats.
And he started a company called Apache Power Boats.
Maybe you guys have heard of him,
with a guy called Don Aranao.
Don Aranao was the founder of a brand called Donzie.
He also founded Cigarette,
big offshore power boat guy, right?
So obviously all the drug runners
were buying boats from Don Aranao, right?
Including Ben Kramer, the offshore power boat champion,
who used his racing boat to run weed
and did over 500,000 pounds of it, okay?
So the name Blue Thunder is because
the US Custom Service asked Don Aranao
to design them a boat to catch the drug smugglers.
Now of course he was also selling boats
to the drug smugglers.
So who do you think got the better boats?
Obviously the people with deeper pockets, the drug smugglers.
And so when he sold the boats to customs,
those boats were called Blue Thunder.
And they couldn't catch the drug runners.
That's so weird.
And Randy Lanier named his racing team afterwards,
after them to tease them about it.
Now, Randy Lanier did 27 years in prison.
John Paul also went to prison.
The Whittingtons won the 24 hours of Lamal
using Coke money during this period of time.
And Ben Kramer allegedly had Don Aranao killed
over a dispute and he's in prison too,
although he denies it.
So the 80s were awesome, you guys.
They knew how to hire the right people.
They hired the right engineers,
credit to Randy for driving.
I mean, some of the drivers here today
probably raced against these people.
Oh, for sure.
I mean, I don't know if they have any stories.
Probably they tell them later off-mic with an offer.
Bill Elliott was there.
That car is from the same year.
It's amazing to be in the same room as that car.
By the way, I saw that car raced as an eight-year-old
in Atlanta, the Atlanta Journal 500 in 1989.
You got some crime for me, is that right?
So speaking of boats, 1982 was a pretty special year
for NASCAR regarding crimes.
February 19th, five drivers and 65 other people
got indicted for smuggling $300 million
of cocaine and marijuana.
Right?
That should get a round of applause.
That's hard, you guys.
Are you impressed by their work ethic
or are you a fan of-
No, I'm just kidding.
Drivers Gary Balloon-
That's where they smuggled it too.
And William Harvey, which is William Joseph Harvey,
sounds like a serial killer.
They drove in the week,
previous is Daytona 500,
and they finished 11th and 39th.
So I think we know which driver did Coke
and which one's for weed.
The lead driver.
If you got 11th, you're focused.
39th, you're chilling.
Let's see, the US attorney said that race cars
were filled with marijuana often
and trucked across different states.
And of course, they used the race mechanics
to tune the boats to smuggle the drugs from the Bahamas.
So that's how they brought everything in.
That's like what F1 does.
They have to build the Red Bull street car, right?
Yeah.
It's the same thing.
I just feel like these folks had a real busy off season.
And they didn't really care about the race.
But they were so productive.
Oh, my favorite part was a driver named Dave Marces
had a quote.
He said, I don't know if this will give NASCAR a black eye
because it doesn't involve that many people.
70 people, five drivers.
He's like, that's what, 12% of them?
It's only one team, you guys.
So get, all right.
So everyone was selling drugs in the 80s.
Got it.
Here's someone who wasn't selling drugs,
just good old fashioned stealing.
Anyone ever heard of an Englishman named James Monroe?
Not one of our early presidents.
Anyone know about a James Monroe?
Race in the British GT Championship, 1999.
Probably didn't hear of him.
But he was working at a company called Simon & Schuster.
They published books.
Maybe you guys have heard of him.
OK, well, he was making $51,000 a year as a copywriter
at Simon & Schuster.
And in 1998, he bought a McLaren F1, brand new,
chassis number 069.
It was $897,000 at the time.
So what is that?
Who's good at math?
Is that 16 years salary?
18 years salary.
So he bought that car on 51 grand a year, a year later.
You know what?
He did not buy avocado toast.
He saved his money.
He didn't get a lot of coffee.
This is how you can do it.
And then a year later, Mr. Monroe wants to go racing.
So you know, Speck Miata, obviously, no, right?
No.
He bought McLaren F1 long tail, chassis number 027R.
And so on $51,000 a year, this man
owned two McLaren F1s at once.
He raced the race car for about a half a season
until a TV interview wanted to talk to him about what it's
like to own two McLaren F1s.
Someone at Simon & Schuster was watching television
and was like, that dude, that's not.
And he had stolen $5.4 million and went to prison.
As De Niro said, what was it?
Goodfellas don't buy anything?
Like what did I say?
Both in nights.
What did I say?
You make no money.
You bought two McLarens.
You idiot.
So those cars are still around.
The red one is one of the Hark ones, the race car.
And the black one, 069 road car, while he had it,
before he got busted, he sent it back to get the high down
force kit put on.
It has since had the high down force kit taken off it.
I looked up the chassis.
Ed Bolian could probably tell us about it.
Chassis 069 is black with black wheels now.
Actually, not a great look.
17s and black are not really where I'm at.
Do you have another good one?
I had one where it's not really, it's not a crime.
It's almost a heartwarming story, but we're
going to need pictures.
My last one is heartwarming as well.
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In 53, anybody heard of a NASCAR driver named Tim Flock?
NASCAR people in Charlotte?
Maybe you've heard of his co-driver.
Yes, it was like the only famous co-driver ever,
named Jaco Flocko, and Jaco Flocko was a monkey.
Capuchin monkey.
Rhesus monkey.
Oh, sorry.
He drove eight races with Jaco in the passenger seat,
and Jaco had a little uniform and stuff.
Do you think Jaco had a harness?
You'd think he did.
He didn't.
You know why I know that?
Because Jaco found the trap door
that drivers used to escape on the ninth race.
He poked his head out and saw that he was a monkey
in a moving race car, and he freaked out,
and he started clawing Tim's face up,
and Tim had to pull into the pits
and tossed the monkey out the window,
and he lost a spot and $600.
Stop and go penalty.
Stop and go drive through penalty.
Yeah, drive through penalty for the frigging monkey.
I didn't read the face-eating part of that story
when I originally got to it.
Okay, our perhaps most heartwarming motorsport crime
involves a guy whose name we don't know.
They just call him Phantom Racing Driver,
and for six years, apparently about every month,
this gentleman would take his Dolara GP2 Formula 2 car
and drive it on the street in the Czech Republic.
And maybe you've seen photos of it.
It was red like a Marlboro livery kind of F1 car
from the 90s, and he was apparently
finally spotted at a gas station, followed to his house.
They knocked on his door.
He answered in a racing suit and said,
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
And they took him to jail.
He was 51 years old.
He's just still wearing the bank robber mask.
That's cold in here.
This guy hated the rest of his life so much.
This was all he had.
We don't know, I read like seven articles, no names.
A 51 year old man is all we got.
Couldn't put on a robe.
Nothing.
Couldn't, wow.
He's got nothing.
There are some really dumb criminals out there,
and that's one of them.
Let's bring up some friends on the show.
We got Mr. Ed Bolian of Vin Wickey is in the house.
Wait, we need to get you a chair.
I can do it.
Have a chair.
You guys know this guy?
He's very famous.
He is a very famous, and he has driven here from Atlanta
in a 1998 Diablo.
Is it an eight?
98 SV?
The VS?
The VS car.
Tell me about your road trip yesterday.
A lot of bugs, which fortunately were just removed
by one of the lovely local detailers here at Pedro,
but yeah, had a nice drive in.
Despite this car sitting for about 14 years
before I bought it, it has behaved itself quite nicely.
They do that when they are driven, right?
How many Lamborghini does Ed Bolian have right now?
I have three right now, or the bank I know has three,
and they let me drive them
as long as I comply with their terms.
Right, okay, but that's not your high.
Didn't you have more than three at one point concurrently?
Yes, I would have had four at one point,
but you know, that's the greatest privilege
of content creation is we get to justify all these things.
No, yeah, what's your count right now?
How many cars do you have?
I think 10.
I love when people get to,
when they have to start with, I think,
or they don't know.
It's a moving target.
Okay, so you're right now ahead.
Oh, ahead of you.
I'm down to eight.
Oh, that's very responsible.
Who in this room has more than 10 cars?
Raise your hand.
Anyone here that want back there?
We got more than 10 cars, okay.
Mr. Hendrick, nice to see you.
There we go.
No, anyone else, more than 10?
All right, are they?
They don't all work, obviously.
Well, of course they don't all work.
They're not supposed to all work.
No, it is a very legit car,
and maybe Mr. 10 cars back there knows,
is a very legit part of a comprehensive collection strategy
to musical chairs your cars.
And you gotta have a couple at the shop being worked on,
imagine they all came home, you'd be host.
Yeah, outside, yeah, and that's when the trees fall on them
and the things that Hagerty doesn't cover happen.
I interviewed a guy for Road and Track last month.
Go pick up the new issue of Road and Track on Newsstands,
who has 75 cars in his collection,
and I was like, are they all here?
And he's like, oh, God, no, absolutely not.
He said, if they all came back,
I would be a huge state of trouble.
He's like, they're spread out across the globe
at repair shops and whatever.
So your recent mission in the last 12 months,
since I last saw you in Florida,
buying a quote cheap Bugatti Veyron,
which is a crazy thing to say,
crazy series of words to say, but it's all relative,
driving it from South Florida back to Atlanta,
and then pretty much just using it as a car.
That's it?
Yes, and it's a wonderful car.
And when you had bought it,
I was there the day you took delivery,
and you were very concerned about
what you were going to do about the tires.
So will you just remind everybody
of the saga of the Veyron's tires
and what you've actually come up with?
Yeah, so the Veyron has obviously the reputation
of everything being catastrophic
when it comes to maintenance and servicing,
and there is very good truth to most of that,
but it's actually just better documented
than Koenigsegg and Bugatti and Wafferari and things like that,
how much they actually cost to keep going,
but the tires are the biggest thing
because it uses a system of Michelin tires called PAX, P-A-X,
and they are glued to the rims,
they are asymmetrical laterally,
so the inner diameter is different
than the external diameter.
They were used on a few early Mybox, a few early Phantoms,
and 2005 to 2009 Honda Odyssey minivans.
And so, yes, there we go.
By the way, the best generation of Odyssey.
Those, I had one of them.
Everyone knows. They're awesome.
That was a great van.
A lot of aftermarket wheels on that generation of Odyssey,
and so, in addition to spending $45,000 per set of tires,
they instruct that you replace the rims every three sets,
which, depending on the designer,
$100 to $130,000, which ain't nobody got time for that,
and so I found a lovely company in China
that would make them for 500 bucks a wheel
that looked just like mine,
so much so that Bugatti has posted my car
on their Instagram account a few times with them on it,
and they accommodate normal-sized tires.
Do they accommodate 265 miles per hour?
I can speak to 200, but beyond that,
I can't say for sure.
You become a YouTuber if you try that.
That's it.
That's where all of this is heading,
is you having all four tires separate at 243, you know what I mean?
You won't believe what happened to my Bugatti.
Imagine the center card, though.
That's right.
Yeah, the thumbnails, it writes itself, really, the clickbait,
but fortunately, it has behaved itself very nicely
since that day.
We saw some overheating early on, we saw some, you know,
but overall, it's been a lovely automobile.
And just in case people aren't quite aware
of the provenance, the provenance of this Veyron
is truly unparalleled.
Can I have the owners in order that they owned the car, please?
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Well, first it was Bugatti themselves.
That's who decided that red over red
with red wheels was the play.
And then they sold it to one of the partners
at symbolic motor cars who were later arrested
for trying to fix a mayoral election
with some laundered money.
Motorsport crime, we'll add that to the next show.
Talk about small potatoes crime.
Yes, symbolic, that was a big one.
Then they sold it to Birdman.
And now most people think that's from the Miami Heat,
but no, of cash money millionaires.
And he gave it to Justin Bieber for a while
and Justin Bieber and Soulja Boy were a photograph
driving around a lot.
Was it ever titled to Justin Bieber?
I don't believe so.
I'm also not sure it was ever titled to Birdman
because it was later collateralized
against a recording studio along with his primary residence,
which both became owned by the bank.
The bank sold it to Floyd Mayweather,
who bought it to preemptively celebrate
beating Conor McGregor in that fight they set up.
Always a good idea.
And so Mayweather had it for a little while.
He's had a bunch of Bugattis and other hypercars.
And then it was sold by way of the nephew
of the Whittington brothers, who you've mentioned.
Oh, yeah.
Yep, Artie Whittington of Wires Only 2.
Little Uzi Vert, who I was not terribly familiar with.
No, we're all familiar with.
Okay, yeah.
This crowd is a big Uzi Vert fans here, yeah.
There we go.
So somebody called me Big Eddie Vert now, that I...
That's all right.
Yeah, which...
That would be a good license plate
if you didn't get the one you got.
That's it, yeah.
So, and then it went to a drug dealer in Miami
and then to me.
Oh, of course it did, yeah.
That's, I mean, just...
This is a very important question by Agro.
I did, I did not...
It was the president of Pfizer and it was by Agro.
That's what I'm...
I think that's what we call a vehicular layover.
Is it rich people, rich people, rich people, drug dealer, Ed?
And that is a very common series.
That is the life of a tired supercar.
Eventually, it all just funnels down to Boolean.
And fortunately, I was able to get the EB license plate
for Ettore Bugatti and Ed Boolean
by way of an unfortunately recently deceased person
that had it on a 2001 Taurus.
That's crazy.
Well, maybe one day,
maybe one day I can become criminal enough
and my car can be decrepit enough
that you could be its next custodian.
Everybody's gonna have a cream.
They ever rebuild it.
I have one Lamborghini divided into 1500 parts.
Right now, that's great.
Okay, let's talk about car collecting right now
because you study the market
and we are in some weird times
where the cars like the Ferrari Enzo have out of nowhere
doubled and tripled in value.
Cars like the Carrera GT, which sat at a mill to a mill five
forever are now all of a sudden worth double and triple that.
I mean, you and I, the people that like manual transmissions
and cars that work, sort of saw this coming
but not maybe so sharply and to such a ridiculous degree.
What do you think?
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of fun factors
that are happening.
There's a tremendous transfer of wealth
into the people who identified with these cars
and saw them on top gear and in video games
and all of the things that really were big
indoctrinating factors differently
than the kind of race on Sunday sell on Monday idea.
Like it was on MTV Cribs Dream for 20 years,
build your credit up and then participate in the market.
Or drive it in Gran Turismo is often cited as one, yeah.
For sure and all of that is true
and so those people are coming into the market
as these cars are now 10, 20, 30 years old
and that has been really, really effective
to push the values upward.
We've also seen that the availability of credit
based on the recognition of these
as like an asset class has become more pertinent
and so I heard recently that a bank
is trying to deploy $2 billion this year
on 1985 to 2015 supercars.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
The bank is actively seeking idiots like us
that have like a little bit of money
to come and borrow their money to buy collectible cars.
It's called the Birdman model.
That's it, it is.
You let him buy the car, it goes up, you take it,
you lose the money and then you own it
and you flip it on BAT.
Letting other people take depreciation on our behalf
has always been a big part of the business model
but then there is inevitably a point
where they bottom out usually about 10 years old
and then there is at least the chance
that the trajectory could change
and you can score that based on rarity
and the desirability of manual cars
and things that are no longer generally
able to be produced and so it's not necessarily easy
to see the writing on the wall
but it's not rocket science.
Yeah, what's, what value wise
where are swapped manual cars ending up?
You know, fortunately that's been happening
longer in Ferraris than in Lamborghinis.
We are now seeing swaps and mercies
and things of that nature and history.
Have you driven one, does it work?
I haven't, I have, all of the chats are mixed on that
but you know, theoretically it can be made to work.
With the Ferraris you pay decent retail money
plus the cost of the conversion.
There's no convenience fee added in most cases
on a 360, 430, 575.
But there's also no reduction in value
because it's been modified
because Ferrari people can be kind of wieners
about modifying their cars.
Correct, now we haven't seen it yet in the wake of scuds
and 16Ms and Challenger Dalles exploding in value
and having that same two, 300% increase
and so that's where I think we will start
to see some deduction but you know,
again most people are accumulating these cars
for their credit in their Ferrari app
and so that does not score differently.
The same way a LaFerrari prototype doesn't score
differently than one with a title.
That is really interesting, isn't it?
So I can't believe and maybe you guys,
if you watch auctions, what auction was that at,
the prototype?
Oh, they sell all the time because somebody just needs
to have it for like six months for it to score
in their app and then they move it to the next person.
It's a real thing you're talking about?
Absolutely, yes.
The Ferrari app?
Yes, so that's how they score them
so you load all of your VINs into the app
and then that gives you your score
and that's how you get allocated to the...
I legitimately don't know if he's joking or not.
Is this real?
You can put your 328 in there.
All the cars you've ever owned can go in there.
But then...
Oh, this is real?
Yes, absolutely.
And that's how...
Losers!
Are you kidding me?
This is Pokemon Go Ferrari.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
The car's sitting there.
What do I need an app for?
So they can score it and then tell you whether you're worthy.
Ew, I hate everything.
That's awful.
That's when people are ruining cars.
It's not electric cars.
It's the Ferrari app that's ruining cars.
That is crazy, Ed.
Well, you run into it.
I'm so mad I know about that now.
It's not a cool car unless a bunch of 60-year-old incels
tell you it's a cool car.
Oh, dude, and you already know
Ferrari Chat was the worst forum on the planet
and now we've just appified Ferrari...
But now it's got NFTs, Matt.
It used to be your signature.
That's how you, with a previous Ferrari's own
to qualify your advice on Ferrari Chat.
Now it's in the app.
So in the Ed Bolian score,
give me three cars to buy in the next five years,
maybe three cars to sell.
There you go.
So I think that you see a lot of cars step up
and there are cars that we are definitely noticing that.
550 Marinellos have felt that way for a while
and even amongst the cars that have jumped like crazy,
it's hard to say that they've really kept up
in terms of how special they are to own
and things like that.
You're always gonna do well with cars
that are about to pass a difference of appeal
to the marketplace.
So like right now, I would say that buying a 996 GT2
is perfect, especially if you buy it not in the US
because it's within 12 months of being able to come in.
Tom's here with his 996, it's got 750,000 miles on it
and so one of the best storied 911s that exist
and it's proven that this is a car that can last,
can be driven, Magnus just sold his car for good money.
What did Magnus get for that GT2, do you know?
About 30, but yeah, it's a lot of money but that's like
for a very rare car, in the more time that goes by,
I think it probably will be more and more appreciated.
Okay, so 996 GT2, that's a good one.
Even though they have certainly gone up,
I think any V12 manual Lambo is always going
to be a good option there.
I think that the reality of how few there really are
in the ways that are different than if you tried
to build the vertical of Ferrari hypercars
or the vertical of a lot of other cars
that are recognized already as special, to me that works.
Yeah, like there's fewer manual mercies
than there are like, you know, LaFerrari's basically.
I mean that Diablo SV, there's 343 of,
that is exactly the production of Duesenberg's.
And so it's just a different recognition
of what makes cars rare, what makes cars special
and I think that when we look at these events,
20, 30 years from now, it's going to look more
like MTV Cribs than it does look
like a pre-war celebration concor.
And so that's what it seems like.
I certainly hope that will include 2003 Escalades
on spinners with TVs.
Absolutely, yes, all the places.
I firmly believe if you went to a car show
with Spreewell spinners today,
you would probably get a trophy.
Oh, we have Radwood tomorrow.
Radwood for the street tomorrow.
Somebody's looking to de-grown the McLaren F1,
so, you know, a spinner 04 Escalade.
That could do it.
Or a 99 Escalade, I have to be.
Okay, a couple cars to sell.
What do we think is time to move on from?
Every auction for the next two years
is going to have a special color enzo in it.
So there are a lot of people that say
that that bump from four million teens
is potentially unsustainable.
So if I had a great one, I would probably let somebody else
anticipate what it does after that.
You know, by that same token,
as much as I love a 430 Scuderia or a Stradale,
when they start to be $7,800, $900,000,
it's a little hard for me to get there.
So sometimes cars take that step up
and it's time to pull the ripcord.
And so that would probably be my thought there.
Yeah, I don't view that as a $700,000
driving or ownership experience,
but that's just me.
What do I?
Lots of fun.
I like that.
I would say for buy, I think,
is still undervalued, 94 Ferrari 348s,
only the 94s.
Nobody likes 91s, 92s anymore,
but the 94s are awesome
and they have better steering than the 355
and they're cheaper to run and they look great.
I like those.
Zach, what's a buy?
I'm still waiting for R8s to do anything
because I love them so much,
but they just stay asleep,
possibly V8 Vantage Ss.
First gen Vantage Ss.
I think it could be a good buy.
They were shockingly good.
And some great colors, some great specs.
They're built well.
Just a good season of Aston, I agree with that.
Yeah, how about the V12 Vanquish, huh?
You know, I love them.
Waiting for it to pop for 10 years.
Ian Callum just put a post out saying
he wanted somebody to wide body it
and he's got a special design.
You guys follow Ian Callum,
the designer on Instagram.
He's a good follow and he's a lovely guy
and he continually tries to reinvent
the Vanquish in interesting ways.
Don't know if it's really working, but.
It's not working for Horacio Pagani either, but it was.
That's cold.
Pagani owners here, sensitive crowd.
Okay, so we wanna have you stick around for this bit
because Zach and I each came up with
a million dollar garage for Charlotte, North Carolina.
What does a million dollars spread of money
across cars look like in this city
to some idiots from Los Angeles?
Okay.
It's where we come to your town and judge you to your face.
Well, like most things in my life,
it's gonna have a more European car bent.
Sure.
But I think I would start with something,
you gotta start with your halo car,
which to me would be the worst possible title situation
on a early Mercy Roadster.
It's got, we got great weather.
It's easy to anticipate here.
It doesn't pop up in rain in five seconds
like South Florida, so you could drive a Mercy Roadster.
Probably 300 grand there.
For the worst title one?
Yeah, for the absolute worst one.
And then I think I'd go with an SLR.
Love an SLR.
I know you hate them.
I hate them.
I know you do.
Yeah, they drive like absolute trash.
That depends on which one.
They all drive very differently.
I would have to test drive it.
That's a fun game.
That's not something I'm looking for in the States.
That's what I'm looking for from Mercedes.
You know, and it's interestingly not ownership based
because the best one I ever drove was the one that I owned,
which was Paris Hilton's car when new.
What made it better?
It had the best brake feel, which is very rare,
and the best steering feel, which is also very rare
because they feel like you're driving an SL55
with an extension on the steering rack for about four feet
because that's exactly what it is.
And I love that car.
So you're probably 600 grand in there.
And then I would, I love a Spiker.
So I'd probably try to buy an early Spiker Spider
and then whatever's left over.
On airbag.
Oh, absolutely, a propeller steering wheel,
which might be a retrofit for a U.S. Vencar,
but that would put me to about 900
and that would leave me enough for either a 430
if I don't have to have something to drive
or an S-Class if I need to actually take my children
somewhere, which I think they'd appreciate someday.
Very good list.
Good list.
I would say predictable.
Predictable for you.
I mean, you would buy the stuff that you buy
and the fact that you're in Charlotte
doesn't really change that.
It's similar enough to Atlanta.
What is yours?
You know, our friend Bozy Taterevich, I texted him
and I said, hey, I'm coming to Charlotte.
He lives here.
He works on a race team.
He works, what's the, oh boy,
they've flexed his RCF's in IMSA, he's on that team.
And I said, what are people driving in Charlotte?
And he made a list of cars that are exactly
what people drive in LA.
And I'm like, well, but, but,
and he's like, we all have the same internet, dude.
We all want the same stuff,
but tactical fleet is everywhere.
But I think I can do this better than he could.
So my five car Charlotte fleet, million bucks.
Number one, a truck with a Carolina squad.
They made this illegal and I disagree with that ruling.
I think you should be able to drive this legally.
Let them go.
I don't think seeing is that important.
I mean, look, did you guys see the in car
on the IROC race?
You don't need to see the, you know what I'm saying?
Look, reach for the stars, look at the stars.
Yeah.
I mean, this, the fact that this is a trend is wild.
This is great.
It's like a SEMA truck, but they only did the front half.
They're saving up.
Yeah.
It's on lay-away.
The rear shocks, I get them next week
if I make all the payments.
I obviously, it's, I don't want to like
crap on someone's automotive expression.
You know what I mean?
Like there's, there's a, there are automotive subcultures
where it's unseen, you know,
people that don't feel visible in society
making themselves.
That's because drivers of these trucks
can't see those people.
Well, this is what the guys in Houston
that have the crazy wheels that with the blades
that like stick out.
That's all about making you see me.
Like that's what that is about.
So this, I kind of get it, but also I was joking.
You do need to see, but, but for 25 grand
and it's illegal, that's great.
I think the, this trend started Tesla's headlight
aiming whatever it is, program.
Like they're basically looking at the same thing.
Yeah.
So that's, we'll call that 25 Gs from a police auction.
I didn't realize the tone we were taking
with these recommendations.
Sorry, I put you on the spot.
How about the Mustang GTD?
This car, this town does homologation, right?
Win on Sunday, sell on Monday.
That's a, that's a Charlotte thing.
And the GTD, I actually took this picture
when I tested the car at Chuck Walla.
This is, you drive one of these for 30 seconds
and you go, a race team made this.
This is, it's, the dashboard looks like a Mustang
and the center bit is Mustang.
But the way it moves, the way it takes curves,
the way it's, this is a multi-matic product,
clearly homologation race car.
So I'm on that.
That's 400 grand.
So now we're at four and a quarter.
Give me a next one, Zach.
How about this?
The super performance GT40.
I think this is the perfect car.
Road course, street circuit, ovals like Daytona.
You've got heritage.
You've got all kinds of people that are like legendary
that are, that were involved in the original GT40,
but that would be 10 million bucks
and people can actually buy these and drive them.
They're about 300.
So we're now at seven and a, seven and a quarter.
How about a cheap beater NASCAR?
This, you guys, this is the key to happiness.
I just found this car.
This is a six gen Camaro built by Hendrick.
X competition car.
It has a, it has an engine, a 620 something cubic inch
engine. It has a gearbox.
It is, I mean, I don't want to say it's quite turnkey,
but it's, it is a running, driving,
somewhat ready to race X NASCAR.
This is $26,000 on racingjunk.com right now.
I was ready for you to say marketplace,
but racing junk, that's prestigious.
Yeah. Racing junk is like marketplace,
but you don't have to worry about being murdered
when you go pick up the thing.
You just have to worry the guy's going to start talking
to you about camshafts.
No, is this still available leading their prompt?
Right. And my last choice is of course,
a Z06 with a Hendrick license plate frame on it,
because you must, you absolutely must have the license
plate frame in this town.
I feel like the number, just driving back and forth
from the hotel, the number of Hendrick Chevrolet license
plates I have seen is
On the squatted trucks.
On the squatted trucks.
It is a huge percentage of all vehicles on the road
in this town.
It's crazy.
So that's how I'm blowing a mill on cars in your town.
Let's see who did it better.
Clapman.
Let me pull my, my list up.
I liked that there was thought put into this.
There were several minutes.
Several minutes.
Several minutes.
All right.
First one I'm going off road.
I want Ranger Raptor.
Ranger Raptor.
Little Raptor.
There's some hunting around here.
The little Raptor in my opinion is the better Raptor.
It is lighter.
It actually makes great horsepower.
You can jump it.
I did it.
They fit in more parking places, trails, all that stuff.
The power to weight of the Ranger Raptor
is the same as the power to weight of the 6.2,
6.2 liter first gen Raptor with a short cap.
And it's the same horsepower as the Bronco Raptor,
but this costs 30 grand less.
These are very good.
These are very good.
These are very, very good.
I like these.
Okay, so 55 grand for one of those.
55 grand.
Oh, if you think I did the math, you are wrong.
Cause the next one.
That looks safe.
How do you put a price on joy?
Rock bouncer.
There's a thing here called the Carolina Crawlers.
Not a popular YouTube channel, 25 views, two years.
These have 1000-ish horsepower,
all the travel, four-wheel steering,
sometimes four-wheel drive,
and I'm pretty sure they're meant to be rolled over.
And it's like take rock crawling
and then add full throttle drag racing,
and that's what you have.
Absolute danger.
I'm so hopeful.
The spectator sport of the planet.
Unbelievable.
Straight to win rock.
You know, probably to get to build this,
I bet it's 200 to buy it
when this person's house is being repowed, 40.
4GT.
Let's call it, I don't know, 200.
4GT.
All one of these today, same spec.
I love the blue.
I love this.
I'll take the stripes.
Looks great outside, inside, timeless,
almost like a concept car.
Fantastic.
Do you see, do you see 0406, 4GT just going to the moon?
When you talk about having to move 4,000 cars in value
for the same reason that R8s don't move that much,
you turn owners into sellers at every step of the way.
That's why they set it 200 for forever
and then 400 for forever.
And now that they're tickling 600,
there's, I mean, obviously there's one
I'm bringing trailer every week,
but you know, it's a different type of attitude with it.
Wonderful cars.
And one of the best long term owned forever,
never going to cut your knees off
from a maintenance perspective.
So a lot to be said.
It's like a dangerous index fund
because there's no traction control.
It's super analog,
but it just kind of creeps up a little bit.
I love how these cars drive.
I think these are the best driving cars of that entire era.
We had them at the rental company.
We drove them all back to back.
These were the best.
Nobody wanted to rent them.
No one wanted to spend 2,500 a day on a Ford.
They were all idiots.
Every one of those people.
They would happily spend 2,500 a day
on a O2 Mercy with an E-gear.
Ferrari California.
And they wouldn't know that.
Yeah, right?
That's it.
Don't buy one of them.
All right.
Oh boy.
Now.
Well this blows the budget right out of the water.
A little bit.
Okay.
But I didn't, like I said,
I got a little generous.
I'm thinking a lot of the-
This is a billion by itself.
A lot of salvaged pipes.
He thought the down payment.
I would have gone down that road
if I felt like it was allowed.
This is finance.
And we ended up with my exact corrupt.
I figured my payments per year could equal a million.
Yeah, roof rodeo.
I want to be able to chase you guys around the track
here a little bit in your race cars,
but I'm not going to be as fast as you.
So I got to cut corners.
I got to do the TK line, as some might say.
And, you know, mow some grass.
So I'm going roof rodeo.
Little expensive.
These are, I mean, it's to call the 800 grand.
They're like a million.
Okay.
But I know the owner.
So all of this car underrated is like,
it's like it's a million dollar roof.
So it's not to say it's underrated is like silly,
but no, in the context of roofs,
nobody cares about this.
And they should, because it's rowdy.
It's, it's the one of the most fun cars I've ever driven.
It's so-
Okay. All right.
It's a winner.
All right.
And there's more.
Last one's fifth one.
I wanted something that really connected to North Carolina.
I was a fan of the Tar Heels long ago.
Thanks to Michael Jordan.
So something for the city, something for me.
This is the 2019 Lee Boy track asphalt paver.
Oh boy.
$79,000 new, super analog, no buttons,
or sorry, all buttons, no haptic buttons.
This means roads.
What do I do with this?
You enjoy.
Look, it's got an exhaust like a, like a zinger.
What?
And,
Oh, look at that.
It lays down tar.
That makes our,
we're in Tar Heel country.
So, and when, okay.
Well, that's clever.
But also when AI takes our video jobs,
you got to the fall back.
We will have to.
Look, the robots can't operate the,
I mean, I can't either.
Look, toggle switches, Matt, you love these.
Oh, I do.
You love a toggle switch.
Is that serious XM radio?
I, have you been AI clone?
Have you found fake Ed Bolian videos yet?
Yes, people, people use my voice for things.
I have found fake me in a few places.
Or did you just not realize you said those things?
It's not valid.
No, it's fair.
No, I found fake me and I don't,
I don't really care as long as they don't make me look too fat.
That seems to be the only thing I care about.
Because I'm vain and shallow.
But, what are you, you're judged tomorrow
on the concourse, right?
Yeah, Radwood supercars.
Radwood supercars.
What are you most looking forward to seeing?
Anything that surprises you?
I mean, that's the thing about here.
Every, all the four years that I've been here
to Heritage, there's always something crazy that pops up
that wouldn't make it out to a normal show
because there are so many cars tucked away
in this part of the country
that just are special to the owner
and then they don't realize how special they'll be to us.
So, it's hard to anticipate,
but there is a McLaren F1 in my life,
so I'm excited about that, yes.
Yeah, XP, it's a prototype too, it's XP4.
Always fun to see where they move things around
in the development process, so that's right.
Excellent, well, I'm gonna let you go get some beverages
at Bullion, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you all so much.
Should we get, you guys wanna come join us?
We get, should we get Will and Jackson
from Captain Crankshaft up here to do our,
do we have, do we have cars?
We got cars to roast, oh boy.
Will and Jackson from the Captain Crankshaft YouTube channel
joining us on the stage to make fun of,
this is Jackson, this is Will.
Go on that side, go on that side.
See a little better.
So, you can see the screen.
We are going to, oh sorry.
Let's see what the inbox hath wrought.
What are you guys driving and sharing with Zach?
Oh boy.
Oh wow.
Good start right there.
Is this photo for insurance?
What's, this is a Honda CRV that has crashed into
something very hard, anyone who sent us this?
As Kurt Busch said yesterday, he just moved somebody.
Not contact, just moved him a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, this is Kurt Busch's daily.
Dude, do we not have a story behind this?
We're just, someone just sent us a picture
of their hugely crashed CRV, no contact.
Just wondering if it's totaled or not.
Right, oh, okay, yeah, what do we think?
No airbag deployment, so that's good.
I mean, this.
Frame is bent.
There's an animal in there I think
and I don't, I don't like the implication.
All right, we'll move on.
We'll move on.
Oh, moving on.
Oh, boy.
I like the hard spot.
That's solid.
Sick 50-50 grind.
Is it Monte Carlo?
It is, right?
Is it Monte Carlo?
This thing, yeah, is it doing a 50-50 grind?
Is it high centered?
It's been there for a second, I think.
Gotta tell you, the point's for being stuck.
Yeah, well, you stop thieves from taking your car
when you park the car, it's genius, yeah.
All right, here's the question.
What direction do you think it came from
to get on that curb?
Did it back on, I think he put it in reverse
instead of drive and whoop, whoop, right?
Is it drive shaft touching the curb, we think?
Or not quite?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
It looks like it is.
For sure.
So someone, right here.
Someone might have whiskey throttled
literally when backing up.
Has anyone ever high centered a car before?
Raise your hand if you've high centered a car.
Has anyone ever high centered a car,
not while off-roading?
The hair's still up, yeah, buddy.
Is this you?
Yeah.
Is this your car?
Yeah, buddy.
Is this you?
All right, this is, high centering a car is back.
Like that's the, but when you see somebody else do it,
man, nothing's better.
You're having a bad day and then you see somebody up
and you go, how did you even get up?
And they're just spinning in air and you go,
oh, thank God that's not me.
And just, and then your day is better.
It's the smallest amount of planning to not do this.
Dude, this rules.
Shout out to the Monte Carlo High Centered.
Alex Davis.
Okay, here we go.
Oh, this is a BMW.
It looks like, is that a 328i wagon?
This, I can't even say anything negative about this.
This is somebody of taste, right?
My first car in daily driver.
This is like the only BMW you can buy
where people think you don't automatically drive
like a dick bag.
Yeah.
Right?
Like you see someone in a BMW,
you're like, I'm gonna stay over here,
but you see them in the wagon and you go,
wagon is class.
It's got something to live for that guy.
So practical, yet it has the maintenance problems
of a fun car.
So you've kind of got Honda Accord experience,
but you're doing it with BMW service records.
These things are gonna be like $22,000 forever.
Yeah.
They do not depreciate.
There will always be someone that has to have
this specific car.
With a manual.
With a manual.
With a manual, for sure.
Great.
They will never depreciate.
Can't even roast that.
It's a great car.
You bought an organ and drove across the country.
Yeah, I'm with that.
I'm with that.
Okay.
What else we got?
Good taste.
Oh, we got a bunch.
Oh, baby.
We got the blue M340.
Wow, they did a 50th anniversary of that.
That car has a lot of badges.
There's a lot of badges.
That's my first thought is, what's happening?
I don't know.
So they did a Yara edition of the 340.
Cause we drove the M3 Yara edition.
Yeah.
And that barely made sense as a special edition.
So I can, this picture was definitely taken the day
they bought the car.
And that looks like a South Florida buy here,
pay here lot, I have to say.
It looks like dealership photos.
Yeah.
And that's a fake 50th anniversary badge.
I'm convinced of it.
They didn't make a 50th anniversary of that.
Did they?
I don't think they did.
Why would they do that?
Imagine how long you'd have to explain
to a potential customer what this means.
That's a long speech.
But.
No, no, no, you don't understand.
Come back.
I like the color combo.
That's nice.
And also, I think that has an aftermarket steering wheel.
Oh, and let's see this, like the laddering
in the steering wheel?
That's what you get with the 50th anniversary.
Is that suit, that's 50th anniversary steering wheel.
He's making that up.
We've saved eight grams.
It costs $25,000 more than the other one.
Okay.
Oh, here we go.
I love, oh, baby.
Okay.
Talk to me.
Matt, say hi for the Fox body.
Whoa.
Okay.
We've got a Fox body on some like two or three piece wheels.
It's a hatchback.
It's the right, is this the teal?
Yeah.
It's the correct 90s Ford teal.
It has tinted headlights.
These are underappreciated though.
Tinted headlights?
Not by this guy.
No, not tinted headlights.
Not by this guy.
Tinted headlights are real trashy.
Tinted headlights are overappreciated.
But I do like the period roof rack
and the cooler and the skateboard.
That's all right.
This looks awesome.
It's got the basket headrests like a saline has.
It's got little bits of saline here and there.
This is all right, except it's a four lug wheel.
And what that means is that has terrible brakes.
Yep.
If you want anything above terrible brakes,
you got to do five lug.
Shout out to the Fox body driver though.
That's okay.
That's really cool.
That air freshener is probably needed
for the inside of that car.
I do like them.
Quality Fox body though.
Andy Benton and they said.
Oh, some more CRP action.
This is a gift for my daughter's 16th birthday.
So we're roasting a 16 year old's car.
Great, that can't go wrong.
Oh dude, look at this.
It's on the Sparko wheels.
It's on Sparko rally wheels and some like,
oh, some Falcon Wild Peaks, which are great tires.
Nice gift.
Yeah.
What do you intend for your daughter
to do with this thing?
Anything.
That is awesome dude.
Whose daughter, who bought this car?
You did?
You bought this car for your daughter?
I've had it for about 10 years.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So you already had it and gave it to her.
Okay, cool.
What did you do with it with these Sparko rally wheels?
There wasn't anywhere I was a brand new driver.
Oh, okay.
Just did a little more wheeling.
All right.
Those wheels do look good on the.
They're not really good on the.
Yeah, those wheels look good on the CRV.
I bet you that gets her done.
That's all right.
Look at the humpback on this thing in this angle
is just this back knee pillar, I guess it is.
Yeah.
Wow.
It does have a bit of a goiter.
It's got a bit of.
On the back end, doesn't it?
It's a bell ringer for sure.
That's a good one.
That's not its best angle.
If I'm honest.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Listen guys, we got to stop with these hoods.
This, the double hump.
Bro, this is like so 97.
Look, my neighbor's got a car with one hood.
I want two hoods, stack them on top of each other.
And also like it's weird to do carbon in a car
that like came out before carbon a little bit, you know?
Yeah, I agree.
What wheels do we have on that?
Is there a side angle?
Do we have another photo?
Enhance.
Well, look, it's, it's.
We've got a deep dish pizza kind of.
It's a snake.
Is the license plate, which I like.
There's another in front of it too.
Yeah, house of two Mustangs.
It's a lovely carport too.
And it is a Cobra and it's got some meaty tires
and it's got some kind of very strange exhaust on it.
But respect, right?
It's better from this angle,
cause you can't see the hood.
Yeah, yeah, without the hood.
Hide that, hide.
If you put the hood with your CRVs.
Woo!
Just tumor, the tumor roaster would.
All right.
I bet this makes a lot of noise, not so fast.
It's a 90, it's a 96.
That was the, that was the four.
Valve motor.
Oh, hello, buddy.
Oh, that's, that's, that's our default that.
This is a Porsche GT4 RS.
Those Visec wheels, I think they are.
In a, like a, like a matte blue.
Very nice.
I think it's the center lock wheel.
So that means you want to be difficult
if you get a flat tire.
This, this car is loud on the outside.
It's loud on the inside.
He paid for the photo at the tail of the dragon.
He did.
I don't see a water mark there.
$10, nice.
Yeah.
Is whose car is this?
Is that a paint to sample or is that a wrap?
Shark blue with the matte PPF.
Shark, oh, shark blue with the matte PPF.
Okay.
I like that.
Respect.
Yeah, all right.
That's cool.
That's a lovely car.
When you buy this or you sad that you don't have a 911.
Do you, when you drive this or you sad you don't yet
have a 911.
Is that, all right.
He looks like he has a 911.
He's one of the allocated.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Very nice car.
That's lovely.
Finally.
I bet that's a good time.
Oh, baby.
Roast my boat.
Wow, the Mogombo.
This is a lovely trawler.
When the USS Indianapolis sank.
This is like the twist.
We had a conversation with this man last night.
He lives on this boat.
We talked to this guy.
Oh, really?
This is your house.
Oh, man.
If this boat's a rocket.
Is this a grand banks, I think?
Is the person who's boat this is here?
If you live on this boat.
He was here.
Please come see me later so we can.
Because of the implication.
I do love a trawler, especially when it's made
into your house.
I mean, that's just, just really fabulous.
But also like, there's like, you're making bombs
or drugs or something in that boat.
And it's stuck there forever.
It's never leaving.
Hasn't run since the late 90s.
No motor in it.
Really?
Do you talk to him now?
No, I do.
I like the, I like a tow around barge,
dude, respect for this.
This is good.
Do we have one, one amazing one to end on?
Here, look at the.
Oh yeah.
We found the right S2000.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
Bro, I look at this photo and I go,
yeah, it's on a salvage title.
A hundred percent, 33,000 miles.
And you did those fenders.
Wow.
Baby, I'm saving up for paint.
I don't, yeah, the paint's on layaway.
I don't believe you that this car's not been crashed.
The only way a car ends up like this
is if it met wall.
Is it very fast, sir?
It catches vets in the corners.
In the corners, of course it does.
As the vets are breaking down.
It's got a lot of wheel and a lot of tire on it
and a lot of down force and that roof looks expensive.
Is that roof expensive?
Carbon roofs are expensive, yeah.
And just a little more paint.
This fender looks like he cut the line himself.
That is a hand cut.
You did that with a Sawzall?
If RWB did that, they charged 400 grand for it.
You're trying to say.
Is your kid's play set missing a slide right now
because you made some fenders?
Wow, okay, okay.
SCCA time trials.
What's a run at Button Willow?
Uh.
Nobody cares.
Do you even time attack if you don't run Button Willow?
I don't know why.
You're not from this coast.
I do like this S2000 though.
I think respect.
It's a good car.
Yeah, it's a good car.
Even though we all know it's on a salvage time.
Okay, do we have one more fun one?
We should, oh wait, yeah, that, that.
You cut the IROC.
How fitting.
I hope it's the kind.
Oh.
You liar.
Now he got us, he put IROC in the subject line.
I was hoping for a Camaro.
I mean it's a good car.
This is a GT3 RS.
What are these?
I've never heard of them.
I've never seen one of these before.
Huh.
I'm sorry, but that car's boring.
Paint to sample white.
Is yours?
One before?
Oh, okay.
Huh?
Is yours?
It's boring.
I've seen that.
Yes!
The Honda Cross Tour.
Thank you.
We can end.
Guys, you know it was the first crossover guys.
Do you know that before the X6?
This thing had to crawl so the Toyota Crown could walk.
You know how everything is the Aztec now?
Like we made fun of the Aztec,
but now all SUVs have slopey sports car backs now.
We made fun of this thing mercilessly.
Honda canceled it.
And now the Toyota Crown is a thing.
Well, the X6, the Cayenne Coupe.
Every car is this now.
The Aztec came with a tent, which is sweet.
That's cool.
That's the best part about it.
Because you get evicted when you buy it
and no one wants to live with you.
Like you live in this car.
Elon Musk said the Cybertron would come for a tent
and come with a tent.
He didn't even deliver it.
Well, that is being.
That's a lovely example.
That's a beautiful parking job
and a beautiful Honda Cross Tour.
Well guys, this has been an absolute pleasure
sitting here and yucking it up with you.
We appreciate you very much.
Thank you to Jackson and Will
from Captain Crancheff for joining us.
Thank you to Ed Bolian, wherever he's at.
Thank you for that very slow clap.
That was sad.
Yeah.
We're going to be at the bar.
So come by and see us and have a beverage with us
for the rest this evening.
And let's watch some racing tonight.
Thanks very much, guys.
Thank you.
About this episode
Outside Charlotte at 10-tenths Motor Club’s Heritage Invitational, The Smoking Tire hosts a live crowd show mixing track fun, racing “crimes,” and car-collecting talk. Matt and Zach roast Legends cars, then riff on motorsport-adjacent criminal stories—from 1980s drug-smuggling IMSA/NASCAR scandals to a “phantom” street-racing driver and a stolen McLaren F1 tale. Ed Bolian (Captain Crankshaft’s Willan Jackson joins later) discusses Bugatti Veyron ownership, especially PAX tire/rim headaches, and the current collectible-car market. The episode ends with “roast your car” submissions.
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LIVE from the annual Heritage Invitational at the Ten Tenths Motor Club in Charlotte, NC, we cover: Motorsport crime; Ed Bolian's exotic journey; Matt vs Zack in a game of "$1M Charlotte Dream Garage", and Roast My Car w/ Captain Crankshaft's Jackson and Will!
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