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Dave Polage. Happy Saturday, America. You're listening Let's Talk Cars Radio on

Freedom Radio. I'm your host, Big DAVP hanging out with Camera Chaos and

AVB. Hey guys, it is great to be hanging out with you guys.

We are back from ls Fest. That's right. We went into Lsfest

West in Vegas last week. It was a great time and I'm gonna tell

you guys a little bit about it. If you guys have never had a

chance to get out to a very large event of that nature, I highly highly suggest that you guys do. I mean, there was something for everybody

out there I mean it was. It was a really really good time.

So it was drag racing, it was drifting. Uh. They had a

burnout box that for a burnout contest. They had rally you know the in

parking lot like rally rally cross, and then they had off road trucks that they did. We didn't get too much of the off road truck stuff because

a it had rained the first day of it, and then I had the car parked my I had rent on. We had the rental park somewhere else,

and the trucks were on all the way on the other side, and by the time they got the trucks racing and going, we had to be someplace ol. So did we go around like Sima again. Yeah, So

it was almost like if you guys remember when we told you when we went to see him, it is very hard to be everywhere, Like there's so many different things, so you kind of had to pick what's going on.

We did manage to catch some of the drag racing was going on that was really cool. Saw a pretty hard hit and I got some after pictures of

it that I'll share with you guys at some point in time. But I

believe it was a S ten pickup truck and yeah he didn't he didn't fare very well, but he was okay, which was great. It was pretty

good hard hit. It looked like Trucksbury tore up. But yeah, it

was like I said, there was just so much going on. We were

trying to cover it all. Big things to Steve Darnelf and well up Garage

got to chat him up and talk with him for a little bit. We

had met him a couple of years back at Seema as well, and I think it was the first time we ever got to talk with him. So

yeah, it was really cool. Had a good time. So the drifting

was pretty cool, so they had it. I've been to a lot of

drifting events right, so that I've got to watch over the years. But

the way that they have it set up at LSFS, you really get to enjoy the action the drifting. You can see it from every point. Yeah,

you can see it every single angle. The way they have the track

built, you can walk all the way around because they have it closed in in concrete barriers. And then of course we were media, so we were

able to get even closer to the action than most people, which made it really intense. Now it's kind of funny because you'll see when I post up

some more of the stuff, some of the video and stuff that we took, people are like, oh you know where you guys send. I had

to stand back because the rubber that was flicking off the cars. I mean,

that's how close that they worked was that I was there trying to take pictures and take some video and when they would come slinging around the cars only maybe I mean with the concrete wall there less than three feet away from me as the back end comes sing around the rubbers just spraying you with rubber.

I know our photographer was having fun. I know he was having fun.

And so but like I said, I mean, for it was a really good time, really well done event. I do like the way that they

have it laid out, because I said, there is sucking for everybody.

You know, we, like I said, in the past, we've done seema and Seema is a lot of running around, you know. We did

seem was nine days for us for starting to finish, to get there as everybody's setting up to cover everything to the point to do the live broadcasts and then do interviews and all things that we did it's a lot of work.

I mean, this one I got to enjoy a little bit more. Uh,

just for the fact that the way it was set up, we didn't have to a We didn't you know, broadcast directly from the track, which was good. So I left us a little bit more time to actually get

out enjoy things, mingle with people, met a lot of people, talk with a lot a lot of different racers, uh, talk with a lot of different fans. People met, people had seen the show, which is

great when you're all the way that far out and people are, yeah, I'll catch a show, which is great. U. But yeah, it

was Uh, it was really really fun. The cars are you know we

do. We go to a lot of car shows here on the East Coast

and it's funny. The flavor, I guess that is what I call it.

On the West Coast flavor versus East Coast flavor. On cars, there's

a big contrast between the difference what people were into or what the style is.

I saw a lot more low riders obviously on the West Coast than I that you see over school. There was a lot a lot of low riders

or I don't know what to call the new I guess I want to say the new wave of low rider people, like you know, when I was growing up, low riders, you know, I had you know, Dayton's on them and stuff like that. You guys, remember, there's that new

like't I won't say it's new culture, but it is kind of new as far as you don't see it. They're lowriders, but there are low riders

with a different set of like wheels on them, so they kind of have more of a muscle car lowrider vibe to it instead of just being like a low rider vibe. And I'm kind of digging it. I saw like fifty

six Chevies and I saw some older like sixty Cadillacts that they had did that genre too. And maybe because it's LS Fest, because everything had LS thrown

in it, right, you know what I mean, maybe that's the reason why. So you know, you get these big lead sleds, these big

heavy cars, but they're fast. I mean, like you know, they've

taken a very large car and have managed to give it a whole lot of power, and you don't realize when it takes off that it's such a big car because it just the body kind twists and the way it goes, but it's clean. They're like really nice show car looks. You know, it's

a little different than what we're doing out here. Yeah, you don't really

see a little. Yeah, you don't see it. You don't see you

don't see it all. You don't see that you lights out there, I

really lights. Okay, this is gonna sound weird, but I did.

I was digging. I post a picture of the guys. I end up

posting up a picture of the of the Hurst, the Dragster Hurst. I

saw that. I saw that. You had to get up close to it

too. Yeah, you gotta get up close to appreciate this in person.

But it was cool. I mean it was really neat. As far as

something that I would build. I'm glad that we have a h a Silverado,

you know, an older Sea Sea tens and ours is an old old but ours is you know, still falls into the C ten class silver O that we plan to building. You guys know we called Old Blue. I'm

glad we're gonna build that truck. It is a really hot ticket. Right

the second on the West Coast, big time, I saw a lot of I probably saw literally thirty different trucks and none of them were exactly the same.

They were all really close to our ear front running from Mike, I'm gonna se eighty three up to like, which is cool? I see you

know, each variant of the car. Yeah, different wheel combinations, just

different things people decided to do it. So it was cool to see that.

I did get a chance to stop into Square Body Syndicate. They had

a booth there. If you guys don't know them, look them up.

Really cool. Got me a cool hat to go with a batch our blue

truck, a blue hat that went with it. So I was like,

cool, got it. So yeah, so big shout out to them,

thanks for a chat with this. There was a lot of different vendors and

suppliers and stuff that we're out there buying motors that we don't know about seeing you saw the Okay, so they had an LSx that is like twenty nine thousand, which is a pretty good price for it. That's just it's gonna

be a major powerhouse muscle motor that probably a lot of people went. And

so you guys see, if you guys didn't see post the pictures, there was a bunch of different variants out there. Of course, if you're a

Ford guy. I hate to ruin it for you, but there you know,

it was ls Fest, but it was Mustings out there with Ls's and them. I know people get mad when that happens, but it's a big

thing on the West Coast. I said, is it really a chev believe?

I know that it is like breaking all the rules, but it is.

It is a big thing to put an l S motor inside of fox body Musting. It just there was a lot of them out there running around.

I was kind of laughing to myself. I was like, Man,

if this was our Musting fans or here on the East Coast, especially some of the ones that are here in our local area they hang out, they would be like just losing their mind because it's religious to motor in it.

But not, like I said, you name it. There was something out

there. If I was to say something different, if I was if I

found a car out there that I thought was different than I wanted to build something I hadn't seen. Honestly, it's not that I haven't seen it,

and I think I've talked on the show before about it. There was a

couple of Cadillac convertibles are out there, the older Cadillac and vertibles that had ls swapping them and they were looking like they're slow and low, but they were just beasts as far as power, and I thought that was really cool.

I was just like, I wouldn't mind building that. I think I've

told you guys that before. I like to get one of the older Cadillac

convertibles. Put a pretty beasty motor in it, so I know it's gonna

get up and go. But it makes for a really cool cruiser too,

you know what I mean. You got the covertable top down. You can

go cruise the beach with it whatever, but it'll get up and move when you need it to. I just and it was cool. There was saw

a couple of those Camaros are seen to be I think, you guys know I'm a Chevy guy, don't be wrong, but I appreciate all muscle cars.

There was a lot of Chevy Camaros. There was a lot. Now,

one thing I did see out there that you don't see a huge, huge thing in is Nathaniel's favorite car. I saw tons of them. Yeahties

two forties, Yeah, definitely definitely on the next project. I just saw

a lot of them out there running around just I mean just you name it.

There was there was a bunch out there running around. So I do

he'd you know that that's that's his genre, that's you know, that's something you would you you I want to you know, eventually, I want to get like a little drift car you know, just kind of you know, you'd have been drift car heaven out there because there was so in the show show and go kind of areas what I call it, like the show car area portion of it. Uh So did you get to see the cars before

they were in the event? Yes? Yes, And we got to sit

and talk with some of the drivers and stuff before they are the event, which was really cool. It's a real open event. And I think that's

probably what I like about the most is uh you get to sit and talk right Like we went through the pits, like we saw tons of cars.

I got like I took a lot of pictures that we have that I got to get, you know, get so you guys kind of see it.

If there was like no souvenir that you could take home, no fired, you probably could have took a body panel or something. And there's some people

rip some bumpers off in the drift, and but I mean, here's the thing. Going to those events is cool, and there's some really neat stuff

there that I would like to buy and bring back with me, But this shipping of it all and then I've done it before, like I bought some signs and stuff like that for the Big for the Mega Garage. This time

I picked up some shirts. I picked up a couple of hats, got

one on now, But uh, is anything big? I didn't really see

anything that I absolutely had to have. I saw some some gear art and

stuff, but the weight of it and then ship it. I was just

like, you know, and what am I gonna do with it? That

I'm gonna put it? That's gonna sit on a show from the Meg Garage?

You don't want to or something? Right? You know what I mean?

Uh? But you know how it is. If I come across a

cool gasoline sign or anything like that, Guys, I'm usually quick at the price is right to pick it up, and I have ship stuff home.

I've went right to the UPS store, wrapped up and sent it back to myself. So I'm not just doing that. But this was more about there

wasn't a lot of like Nick nackas stuff there. You had vendors there that

were representing their cars or their motors or their parts and stuff and there, and they had shirts and hats, but there wasn't like a whole lot of you know. I think I saw one guy selling in the pits selling the

motor, a pretty cool built motor that was in the back of the pickup truck was selling it. But other than that, this was all about just

seeing cool cars, having a good time and watching them run. I mean

pretty much everything out there the show and go area was just cars on display, but there was probably twice as many cars are out there to perform, and there was show cars. I saw that video it came across on the

internet and it was a guy taking out his LS engine and then swapping it with another LS engine at the show and he looked at the camera and he's like, why did I do this? Right? Well, here's the thing.

So you know, the pit area is huge, I mean it is.

It's I mean everybody's like kind of they're camping out, kind of hanging out with all their raves and stuff like that, and there's cars everywhere.

So there's just rows and rows and rows that you can walk down of people that had brought their cars to run in one event or the other, and then they had the truck separated, so all the off road trucks that kind of like picked a corner up, you know, and they set up and saw all the trucks were up in one air. All the off roadrucks were

all up and they're their little pit camp area and like so we walked it all. It's it's a lot you can't remember. It's a Las Vegas Motor

Speedway that is a big facility. If you've never been out there, it

has every type of racing at one facility, and they were covering pretty much all of it. So, like I said, do they gave multiple events

out the year. They do, so there is some other events that go

on out there. So you guys, Las Facebore Speedway is It's crazy when

I go there because when I was a kid, we didn't have the NASCAR track out there, right, we had yeah, I hate to say this way, we had a very old drag strip that was out there that the people used to run on. It's not like what it is now. And

I used to go out there with a friend of mine and his dad was a drag racer and that just emphasized cars for me even more being around drag race cars on the weekend and what it is now is not what it was when we went out there. I mean it's it's just cool. Well we're

nicer, they've real you know, did all the work to it made a really nice place if you guys. Never if you guys don't watch like nhr

A or anything like that, but if you do, you'll see that they have, you know, the drag strips of the strip and there's multiple you know lanes. They can run downs. I think they can run four or

six cars at a time and they break them down. But they were only

running them two, you know, side by side out there. But they

had the different classes. So, like I said, we got to watch

the drag race and it was cool. I would say probably everything of the

coolest stuff that we watched. Burnout Day for me was was a wash out

because that was the day that rain. It was supposed to be that burnout

day that day, so I really wanted to see that. But the rally

car Cross event and watching so there was a there's a pitch trick took of it. There was actually two of them. There was two two eighty z's

that had ls's in them that were just nasty. I mean, and if

you guys have never seen an LS run in a two eighty z, it's a lot of power, especially if it's a souped up LS motor. A

lot of power for that little tiny car. Yeah, but it was a

pretty clean car. Well, yeah, there was two. There was a

gray one too, and I gotta, I gotta. I didn't get it

up close because I don't know where he was parked at. I try to

find him, but I did get to see him run the event, and they were sick and then sounds that came off of them are just insane.

They don't sound like LS motors and them like they are they they are they are pretty cool. I mean they I can't say enough about that. If

you guys can't tell, I had a really good time. But I got

a story that goes with this that has nothing really to do with the event, but it brings up some of the topics that we're gonna talk today.

So you guys got the whole type. I gotta take a quick push of

break when I come back, and we'll talk about it. Bub you're listening

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Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialist. Now back to your host Dave

Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back. So I told you a story

for you. It seemed like every time that I go out on some type

of trip that has to be car related, there's always some kind of weird story. Now you guys have heard about the one with the drunk driver from

years ago. I think we went to that was when we went to Dover

and stuff. There's always been some weird story on any road trip we've taken.

Well, this one didn't disappoint. So we are headed to out to

Lsfest and you know we everything starts in the morning. So we get up

the morning and we had out and I said I had around a car if nothing special on just regular old basic camera, and uh so I'm saying I went economy mood. I think it was around economy mode. But you know,

I mean like I didn't go like rent. Like a lot of people

when they go to these events, they'll like rent a Mustang, or they'll get there's an Audi I can't or whatever Audi sports car it is. It's

real popular that it shows up a lot of it. We saw it a

lot. It seemed like we're also smart. We bundle a lot of things.

So it's like whatever comes with the pack. I don't need. I

don't need anything flashy to go cover car events. I just don't, you

know, why pay the extra money? Now, you guys, you guys

remember, I will say, you know you all remember we did go out to Vegas and covered the Hurts Mustang years ago. It did, yeah,

but release the fact we were the first ones that cover that car, which was really cool. But like I said, normally, if you're do it,

you know, if you're going out and you're covering an event or something like that, you're just kidding. Whatever. The runner car is the cheap

runner car that gets you from event to event whatever you need to do around town. So I'm driving speed on it's I want to say the speedl on

it's sixty. It might have been fifty five. I don't know. I

think I was probably I probably was running sixty. Sixty five miles an hour

doesn't go real fast. There's stoplights you have to hit and stuff. So

I'm just running and that's right. Yeah, there's roads out there that they're

fifty five sixty miles an hour and there's still stop light roads. You wouldn't

have it here. That's because here, I mean, that's because here light

changes every minute and a half, and in Vegas it changes every three In Vegas, do you have enough time to read a chapter book to be then go and wait for the light to change come on, enough time for enough traffic go? Yeah. So I'm cruising along and I hear it before I

see it, and I just hear. I can hear. I know something

fast is coming up behind me, but I hadn't seen it. Song.

Remember, I looked at my rear view mirror and I didn't see I looked at my left side mirror and I didn't see it. By the time I

went to go look at my right side mirror, it was blown by me.

It's probably at least one hundred and ten miles an hour. I mean

literally at least one hundred and ten miles an hour if it it was already kind it was a little bit of a as it went by me, you know what I mean, And like I said, I was going I say, sixty sixty five miles an hour. I mean, so for it to

blow by me, what it felt like. I was standing still. It

was cooking. It was a seven point fifty BMW is what it was.

So you know, le be that as what it is. You guys,

it was really working the machine. Well I don't think it was totally stocked

because it was. Maybe it's just because of how fast he was going it

was. I mean, it was loud, and it went by me.

It was like I was just like what in the world. And I turned

and I said, well, there's an accident waiting to happen. I think

I had the words just out of my mouth when I just watched parts explode into the air. And when I mean explode, parts were like three stories

up in the air. I mean it exploded. What it happened was is

that guy, I guess from when I heard as he went by me, somebody else tried to get on the gas and kind of help go with him.

So maybe a little bit of street racing action going on there. I'm

not saying. I'm just just reporting what I saw. And car pulled out

front of the BMW and he just creamed him. If you've never seen a

car on the street, not on the track, on the street hit a basically standing still object at those type of speeds, it's pretty intense. Guys.

I've unfortunately seen it more times than I care to, Thank goodness.

Once again, both the people were okay. I mean the cars were completely

destroyed. So the BMW hit the car that pulled out in front of him.

Now, granted the car did pull out in front of him, but if you weren't going one hundred and ten plus plus, you would have a lot of stopping time. You might have had some time to miss him,

right, I mean, so he hit something, it can be a little hard to argue. And off goes in the oncoming traffic lane, goes all

across all four lanes of oncoming traffic, and then goes through a fence.

I do have some pictures of it, I just haven't had time to edit and play with the pictures. I'll put some pictures up to you guys and

see what I'm talking about. But then I found myself outside the car trying

to assist the guy that got hit, and his car was still wadded up.

The doors were obviously pinning clothes. Just point to your lab you know.

It was it was once again those prying on the doors trying to get the guy out, and then he had a dog in the backs, and then the dog was slightly injured. So it was it was very interesting kind

of play. But as I was standing there, and here's the thing,

so I liked the video where the guy where he comes out and like the BMW driver and he's just looking at you and he's like, oh, did you see Yeah, I saw the video. He's like why he kept he

kept asking. And I'm not trying to like downplay or anything like, I

don't want that maybe not downplays. So I'm not trying to make the guy

seem like he's stupid or anything like that. But he stands there going what

what what happened? What happened? He just he just he just crashed like

me, and maybe maybe he was stunned, though I seriously he was trying to play like ancient. It was more about he was trying to play right,

right right. It was kind of like one of those and that's just

why he didn't see me there. And I was like, what do you

mean what happened? Dude? You blew by me at least? Is that

what I said to him? I said, you blew by me at least

one hundred ten miles an hour? I said, before you cream that car?

What do you mean what happened? What happened was you were driving like

a you know? Is that what I said to him? Because I didn't

I didn't know what else to say. On top of that, If you

guys, like I was gonna say, if you guys have never been on a big accident scene like that, you are in harm's way because now you have to stop your car and people are trying to whiz by. They don't

know what's going on. They think that maybe you just slowed down, so

they're swinging out your car stuck, and I'm looking, you know, as you're looking a mirror. Now I debrieze everywhere right, debris and out of

my vehicle trying to assist these people because of cars smoking, We're trying to get you know stuff out so and then you're even you put you stuff anymore hard this way because usually what is up happened is somebody ends up tagging you while you're trying to assist that car. And all that stuff's going through my

head the whole time. I'm like, ah, and I know my run

of car is sitting back there like because I couldn't go anywhere, Like when I say explode in front of me. The debris was everywhere and there was

large chunks of debris and then the car's turned complete sideways in front of me, so I couldn't go anywhere. I mean I was I'm literally the first

car in and the car's literally right in front of me. So and that's

how close we were to the action. Any closer than I probably would have

been involved in the action. But it's just it was a really mess up

situation. And like I said, as I was sitting there and I started

thinking about it, I was like, see this is what I talk about, Like I enjoy guys, I like fast cars, okay, and I've done some pretty stupid stuff in my past. I get it, But I

think the stupid stuff I did I always thought about, like I didn't do it like in surroundings of a bunch of people like around me, you know what I mean. Like, I just I just didn't like, you know,

going fast as someone's always watching it, right right, it feels like nobody's watching, but there's always someone right there is. But like I said,

I mean, for for me, I the kid was young, so I'm kind of looking at nobody kid's age. I'm look at him. He

looks like he's probably twenty three years old, you know what I mean, And I'm like, oh, you know, this is this is gonna be good. Now you have somebody who's injured. You should have been like when

your parents said get out of the house, they didn't mean this right right right right exactly, and they said get out, spend a little time out.

It's a great day outside. This is not what they meant. And

like so I'm not trying to do that because I'm not trying to make light of the situation or anything. But it's this is the whole reason why I

think I get scared. And I tell you, guys, even at the

events, when I meet you guys and we talk and stuff and people get into I get advited to a lot of events that are probably not Oh, I know that they're not legal. People are like, oh, you got

to come out. We're going to be so and so tonight, you know,

And they'll tell me where they run at. And I don't go to

out of those events because I just don't want to be I guess associated with I know what can happen. There's just way too much recklessness that goes along

with it. So and all I was thinking about that as I got back

in the car. Once we got this guy out, we knew it was

safe, and I continued on my way, got my car around all the debris without blowing a tire out. That's why I was worried. There was

so much a bree I was afraid to run something over and catching a flat.

Trust me, we can make interesting, was the response. Pretty quick

though. No, so it wasn't. We were probably on scene for a

good ten minutes and I hadn't seen a police car or an ambulance or anything yet. I didn't hear him rolling yet, you know what I mean.

So it took it. It took it took a good minute. Now,

and we weren't in an unpopular area. We are right before you enter the

strip in Vegas. I mean you literally go up over the overpass and you

come right out and near the strips. Right there, you can make a

left right on Las Vegas Boulevard. That's where it was at. So to

tell how fast the guy was cooking in that area kind of tells you, you know, we're he was definitely not thinking. I mean, he just

definitely wasn't And like I said, and I think that's what happened. It's

not to have a fast car, right, I mean, everybody enjoys having a fast car, and people like to demonstrate its abilities. But I think

to a certain degree this is where that whole time and the place comes into into question, because there was it was easily. It's easily, you know,

to go fast. It seems fun. But it's easy to go fast.

But tragedy can happen and blink of it right Like literally, I couldn't couldn't get the words out of my power comes great responsibility, and I mean power, So I couldn't get the words out of my mouth of that's an accident waiting to have you know what I mean? So and got real tornado

before you know, I think I told you guys the story once before, Uh, we were headed to Richmond and a guy blew by me at over one hundred miles an hour, and I was like, that's an accident waiting to happen. And five minutes up the road we come to dead stop traffic

and I'm like, I already knew, I do, I just I knew that what had happened. I've only seen I've only seen one, and you

know, that's the one. I saw the guy go through the median,

go right over through the median from another side of the traffic, right over the barrier. And that was in front of me in a van of kids.

I've had so many of my time. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

I saw one last week. Surprisingly he made it clean, but I

was certain he was gonna clip something. Oh take that back. Saw another

one. That one was Pops. Right when we moved over here and like

by the highway, the highway guard gates were like open, like a car just went through, and me and Pops were just looking like, oh, somebody went through that, you know, and then we like make the churn and you know, like when you make the churn, you look to the right, you can see the field there's a car in the field snook, and we're like, how did the car survive? That? The one that

when I was going to Richmond, that guy passed away that like I said, he went by me like fast, And I said, within five minutes we were dead stop track. When I finally got up there, the car

was split in half and the occupants were no longer in the car. So

I said, I've see I've seen a lot of crazy stuff, but like I said, it really gives me to thinking about speed and people and the way they drive and stuff. And then I saw there was an article.

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automotive specialists. Now back to your host, Dave Pilach, Hey, welcome

back. So here's the thing. So you know we've talked, Like I

said, if you guys are following, we're kind of covering all the I don't know, I guess the street racing, ticketing, you name it why is it always you though, like every time there is event, you're always on the I think because here's the thing. So so to follow your line,

somebody asking, they're like, why is it every time you guys go to like some type of car event or you guys take some type trip, there's something dramatically happens we're bought around cars And I go, I don't know, but I think because we're not idle, does that make sense? Like

when we're we're moving, we're always headed to like headed to whatever's going on at that event at this hour, and then like you know, three hours later, they're doing something else. So we're constantly moving from place to place,

and we're all over the places, not like we're just sitting around.

So we see a lot and we're around a lot of cars, a lot of moving cars and all that kind of stuff. So it's just it's a

recipe for disaster that it's going to happen at some point in time, and somehow we're using it right in the middle. We're all all the actions going

on, so we end up seeing that real quick. Do you know how

many crashes there are per day? Crashes per day, per day motor vehicle

accidents per day. May take a causs. Come on now, motor vehicle

sections per day in the United States and the whole world. Yeah, in

the United States, the United States, I'm gonna say, yeah, across the fifteen No, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say across across America, there's probably two hundred fifty thousand accidents to day. You think two hundred fifty thousand people? You got insurance companies are

really making money? No, thirty six thousand, okay, thirty six thousand,

I say so, it's funny you asked me that question. I ask

you guys a question. Aren't you all ready for this one? How many

traffic stops are there a year? A year? A year? Oh?

Billion? No, that's that's a lot. No, well, I mean

you gotta think they made so how much money? I don't know why I

look this up. Huh two hundred million? No? No, no,

all right? Year? Yeah, a year like the United States? Billion

millionpe, how many billions? A lot? Buddy, that's that's they put

the work in. Bring. Yeah, you got to be putting the work.

I mean, there's only fifty states. Do the math. I mean

that's a lot. That's a lot, but it still is. I thought

it was a lot already, right, So the answer, guys is twenty million traffic stops a year. That's a lot, a lot. Twenty million

traffic all right, So let me break it. Let me break it down

to you even more. How many of them are speeding? A year?

It was how many tickets a year? It's twenty million traffic stops a year.

How many of those do you think are speeding? Probably probably fifteen million,

No, I'd say half almost eight million of those are speeding tickets?

Right, what's the Wait a minute, what's the other like twelve what's the other twelve million? It could be it could be licensed, it could be

front license plate. Oh too soon, if I don't know. So Nathaniel

just got pulled over again in the Mustang. I knew it was going to

happen. Not again, but no, no, no first time. But

no, no, he got over again. And what last one was five

years ago when he got pulled over? So he basically learns lessons. They

got pulled over. One of the things they got in for. They gave

him three tickets. One was no display front license plate. But you guys

have heard me argue this point many many times. I'm going to continue to

argue it. I have told you, guys the story. I bought a

car, didn't have a front license plate holder on it, no way to display the front lices plate unless I drilled into the car. And on top

of that, everybody's like, why don't you just drill in the car?

Hey, don't You should never drill in the car. I think it's bad

idea because you could argue the point that it weakens the structure of the front bumper by drilling into it. You could argue that fact. A lot of

people say, oh, well, it's based so thick. It probably won't.

But like I said, you could argue, but the car didn't come with the front license plate holder on I purchased it, and my front bumper had a roundness to it, so I would have had to bend the plate to get it to go on the front. So I didn't hasn't around And

I told you, guys, and I got pulled over for it several times.

I got pulled over for it, and I pleaded my case the same way. If you're going to require me, as a state law to display

a front license plate. Then you need to require the dealership to sell the

car with a front license plate holder. And drilling it into with self tapping

screws into the front bumper does not count as hanging the front license plate in a front holder. The car should have a designated front holder. Now keep

in mind, on the car that I had, you could buy it as a secondary in the aftermarket world where it was round it and it went and made a square on the front bumper to hold the lightsplate. You could buy

it. But I think it was like three hundred dollars. There was something

stupid. It was a lot of money. And I was like, I'm

not doing that, and I said, I got pulled over. Now I

beat my case because I was smart, and I took a camera and I filmed at an intersection my type of car passing several times, and none of them had a front license plate on it. Why car didn't come with front

license plate holder. So everybody basically was doing the exact same thing. And

then I went to the dealership and I filmed a row and a half of the Kyper car I own being sold at the dealership without front license plate holders on them. I'm like if you're going to require me to have a front

license plate, you should require the dealer to sell it with the front.

You should inform whoever's purchasing that. You know, that's a law as well.

Well, Okay, I think most of us know that it's a law, right, I know it's a law. But you know, some people

the states do have, you know, different laws. You're right, other

states do have different laws, especially if you're not you know, if you're not telling someone or selling with it, how is you know someone to I just think if you were going to help hold me accountable for displaying it, you need you. They should not be allowed to sell the car unless it

has a place to properly display it. That's just my belief, and I

think that's a I think that's a right belief. Yeah, camera knock on

wood, But uh, Nate turned this car less than I've had no front license on my front and I have a reason. So like I had a

brand new bumper installed online and the dealership drilled out my whole where I cannot put my fix for that. But it's it's a pain in the butt,

there is. But mine's been that for a year, like maybe a year

and a half and he gets pulled over for no life, It's unfortunate.

Here's the thing. He got pulled over for speeding, and then they hit

him with license plate and they hit him with a ticket for Uh do you see where I do see where he was coming from. He wasn't speeding,

he was merging. Understand. I mean, here's here's the reality. He

was speeding, but I understand what he's talking about. Yeah, I wasn't

like purposely, you know, speeding. I was literally, you know,

I'm trying to get over it. And I give that as you're trying to

keep get up with the speed of tracks, right, take the pace and stuff. Obviously he saw me emerging when you're there. Unfortunately, you know,

I feel like he kind of took that extra mile. Oh yeah,

absolutely did. I can tell you, and I told you I know he

did. You're twenty three years old driving a fifty thousand dollars us. I

mean, maybe that's what it is. I don't know, but this kind

of once again, this spiral around for another conversation. For right, So

I was like, okay, it's a Musting and it's a younger guy driving a Musting, And so then how often do you believe that those cars are sighted out and ticketed? Right? You would be the time you would think

it's hard, it's hard on argu I thought, go ahead, all right, I mean it's hard to argue, right, And so I know you got some stats, and I want you to say your stats before I put my opinion into it. Okay, So right, So here it is.

Where do you think Ford Mustang falls on the list for being ticketed? Out

of the top ten? Probably not in the top ten. Probably not in

the top ten. Not in the top ten. Oh how about how about

Chevy Camaro? Not on the top ten? Not in the top ten?

Now, but now this is the thing. But let me I'm going to

wait, let me fight this one first. All right, okay, Now

let's take the cars driving on the road. How many Accords were there on

the day of that time? It was thousand of cords? How many Mustards?

There was ten mustards? All right? Okay, right, I sow

many cars out of the cords got pulled? Only one hundred? How many

got out of the states. I may agree with you if if it's the

stats for a little different and they were comparing basically, like you know, the quantity of the car out there. I feel like that's maybe not in

the stats. It's not. So the stats are pretty crazy. I mean,

I I went looking for muscle car related stuff because I'm just thinking like Corvettes, Camaros, Challengers, all those, they're all muscle cars. And

I'm like, the stats on tickets have got to be huge on these.

So I'm gonna guess number one at least one, and that it's in the top ten. Honda Civic. It's not. Really, it's not in the

top ten. I'm gonna say minivan, minivan what no, no either.

I literally so I started off, guys, I started off with the muscle cars thicket. It was gonna be muscle cars. And then I'm like,

okay, then you're gonna go to like maybe from muscle car, like small sport car, like I mean, it's not really a sports car, but I thought it would be that. It's none of those. It's it's evolve

though, just and everybody goes, well, maybe there's because you have bore of this on the road, you hit more of that. I was like,

okay, then it should be Accord cameras all those kind of right, right, it's not those either. What is it? Ah? See,

yeah, sorry, what is it? I want to know? Come on,

okay, in the lowest thing of the losser, the HANDI veloscer.

So that's that's the time is for citations. Okay, So this is it's

by model, it's for speeding, and it's by model and by manufacturer.

So I haven't broken broken. By the way, this this article, if

you guys want to see that read it was a really good article. I

enjoyed reading it. And Gray did this article, so go go take a

look at it. If you guys want to see it you uh, finally,

just type in top ten most pulled over cars. But like I said,

so I was shocked at what the answers were. Number nine, and

I guess now this this was number ten. Here's here okay, so here

here for it's not But I kind of understand this car a little bit maybe, and I could be wrong. I saw a lot of them of your

guys's parking lot in high school. And that's the reason why I think this

car made the number nine spot. Yeah, you got me impressa super impressents

Okay, So I felt I was like, okay, I think that's probably the reason why that hits it because I know a lot of school kids at certain age drive those and maybe that's the reason why they how that car made the list, right, because it's not that it's not a camera, it's not at that was number nine. That was number nine. I was number

nine, Believe it or not, it was number one. I'm telling me,

are these cars that can be modified to like our ordinary? It literally

looked at all the broad spectrum of cars and this is what it was.

You guys got to hang on. I got cap, I got to take

to the pirsture break, I got the restless for you guys, and I have broke out in another way as well, by manufacturers, and you're not gonna believe how this falls out. You guys, hang tight. We'll be

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automotive specialist. Now back to your host, Dave Polach, Hey, guys,

welcome back. So we were talking about all the cars that we thought

would be like the most ticket right, And I know we've covered it like many years ago, but I think even years ago some of the more sports cars fell in the list. But believe it or not, there's not really

any sports car. I wouldn't consider the next one a sports car. But

any guys what the next one is? We're talking about the eighth place as

far as the most speeding violation cars that have been given to Think a Mazda it's not so you used to have one for a very short period of time.

Nope, wait oh wait, no gt I that gt I had the twenty four hour gt I. Dude, that still makes me mad. It

was a cool car. I'll be able to tell my kids that end a

gt gt I twenty four hours. Ye, Dad said, sell it's And

then a guy came over with a laptop and fired the baby. It didn't

start, He didn't get started. He thought he knew it was wrong with

it. But he never got into fire that I remember. He never got

to fire, but he thought he knew what was wrong with it, he said, because he tried everything, like when we had that car. He

plugged into it, he tried everything. He couldn't get to fire either,

and the computer wasn't giving any communition that communication. But he's funny because there's

a kind of like a little train going on, like Compact Sedan's there is.

All right, so we're gonna break that trend. You ready for the

next one? Do you think the next one is pickup truck? It is.

It's a pickup truck. GMC fifteen hundred is the next one in the

number seven spot, which I think that probably based on more just because there's tons of them out there, So I kind of think that was the reason why that fell into that spot, right, Well, I mean older people like now nineties used to just this one. I understand. I actually do

get this one, and this one it's not about the car, but it falls into i'm gonna say, sports car realm any idea. And it's funny

because both these are back to back. So the next two nope, nope

zion f r S, f r S, Yeah, yeah, I can see frs. And the next one up from there super b r Z,

which is yeah, I about to say, sounds like right, all right, So this one caught me a little off guard because I just don't think about anybody like trying to speed around in this car. But the next one

is the Masda three. No, I can see that. Yeah, dude,

Maza three zipping in the nude. I don't know. I just don't

think about that as another person that speeds in a on the highway with Okay, Tracy have been called up, all right. So the next one,

any idea, Now, this is see if you all remember what I gotta go way back, This is way way back. I really thought we'd see

a lot more of these out on the road because of the price point, and they were they were zippy, they were quick for a car, so I thought we see a lot, but you don't see a lot of this car any idea. You said that they were good for the price point,

the price point for what you're goodding. I think they're turbo charged. Some

correct me on that, but I believe they came to the turbo. They

were zippy. Was the first time anybody done did one, and they got

talked about. They had a really catchy commercial for a while. Oh is

it the rat car? No nor a handholes? Not remember that. Where's

like they're playing a hip hop song and it's the four Rats and they're like they were not rats. But I do remember the marcial. No, this

was the keya stinger. Remember all the commercial. I think they're showing it

like drift around a track and like when they pick people. I thought they

were gonna buy. Didn't they have a bunch of recalls. I don't know

why that didn't be. They were zippy. I know that they're and I

can't remember all the numbers on but I remember they were putting up some really impressive like numbers for what the car was as far as being pretty gip and got for a compact sports car. That's still what they're even a Sedan.

I think they're still four door, right, So, but they were zippying and I remember seeing a couple around and then you just didn't see them, like, so that's number three. I've probably maybe seen like four or five

out on the road since they were made. I don't even if they even

make them anymore. I don't know. This one is was It used to

be on a lot of people's list. I remember when everybody was buying these,

it's in the number two spot, any ideas a lot of people were buying them, like people people were buying because they were zippy to like nineties.

No, no, they're all new. This is all new, newer

stuff within the last couple of years. And this is so ready to Hondai

Genesis Genesis. Remember they were super yeah yeah, yeah, I see everybody

was kind of doing that kind of look. And the last ready yeah please

super WRX, Well, I mean that's kind of given, right, So, I mean, so what the other one was in President President, and President was almost the bottom list and the other ones at the top. So

switching to get more friends in the w r X manufacturers. Now this is

weird because when you start looking at the manufacturer lists, you would think that some of the cars will be on the other side, and some are some aren't. But it's a little weird to me how this kind of shook shook

out. So in the number ten spot by manufacturers of most cars given speeding

ticket, number ten was is a Hondai. So Hondai's are the most ticketed,

top ten ticketed vehicles, right number two. I kind of get it,

and and and probably because of my hatred for BMW's, it's BMW.

Everybody knows. I'm not a BMW I like. I like BMW's as far

as some some of them, the body lines and stuff like that, I don't like it. C I don't like working on them. There's just a

painting about to work on in every go. Well, no they're not.

And usually people say no, they're not, or the guys that that's all they specialize all they work on they've seen it every day. But you know,

for people like me who don't work on BMW every day, I have no interest in working Everyone has their own niche right they are now unless it's an old volkswagon. Those are easy to work on. The old volks wagons.

I mean you pull the motor by yourself if you feel like you want your back to kind of lean into it a little bit, but you can do it all right. So in the number seven spot, any idea Toyota,

Honda, Honda manufacturer. Number seven just says just manufacturers, not a

model. Just well, I mean that kind of falls noonmalist. So number

six good, any idea for it's again Ki, believe it or not, Chevy and Dodge is not on this list because they made too much different.

That was the case, it'd be the most technology because that's what's shocked.

Be like, the reason why we're talking about this Guy's guy said, you know, with everything that happened with the accident and then tickets and stuff like that, it really I just kind of was like, I really want to look at it. And then of course I found the article and I started

reading, and I was like, man, he kind of broke this down.

I remember we did colors, color scars, all right, hold on before you jump into that, what do you think the next one is?

This is something you just don't hear about anymore. I mean, I remember,

so when I was young, you heard this name all the time.

And maybe it's just where I lived at everybody wanted one of these, but an Audi. Yeah, Audi is not really popular. When I lived in

Illinois, people, man, there was like a four year, five year craze that everybody wanted an Audi. I don't know what it was. I'm

talking like kids at high school wanted to have an Audi's and drive. I

don't know. I don't know what it was about Audi, but everybody so

they're right. Next spot is Mazda again, so that kind of makes sense.

There's a lot of different models are out there. Uh. The next

spot there, what is that? Uh? That's number four spot is Subaru.

Makes sense because the Impressa and the Subaru were on the list, right, easy to get your hands up. Volkswagon's in the number three spot.

So yeah, you know, I when I started thinking about Volkswagon, I tried to think of what's out there that everybody's driving. Right, that's Volkswagon

anymore, because there's not like it was a big hit. It's not like

there's the is there. They don't still make the jet anymore, do they?

I don't think. So. That's not how much I know about Folkswagons

anymore. I don't think they make a jet anymore. Maybe they do,

and I'm just not aware of it, but I'll quick so you know, you have Volkswagen and the number two spot. This kind of makes sense because

it's on the list of the other side it's Zion, So Zion is the number two most most ticketed brands out there. Do you know what the most

or the least ticketed SUV is? Least ticket su Toyota? No? No,

really, nope, what is it you at Concord? That's because nobody's

are still red cars being pulled over the most now of all vehicles on the road are white, and then that's followed by red, gray and silber vehicles, and then vehicles on the road. Do you know what they don't like?

Dark vehicles? Dark colored vehicles most of you look at like because you

can't night. No, because they blend in with the road. Even during

the daytime, the darker colors kind of blending with the roads are coming down and peoplen't seem like grays and blacks and stuff like that as they're coming at you. They tend to blend in with the background. You don't even know

what isn't that the goal of really getting like a blacked out it is?

That's all right? So number one spot most ticket manufactured. What do you

think do you said, Ford, Chevy and them, I'm going to Super.

Then the Super is the number four spots I was researching. I don't

know, Mazda, yeah, must have much you're paying attention. I was

break it for Infinity. Infinity is the racket. I'm like, what could

be able to list? Which is weird because I start thinking about I'm like,

no Nissan, no Toyota, but many Nissans and Toyotas and all that kind of stuff around it on the road you think you think one of them get away. But what you're saying, but it's it's kind of like the

mimic of what the Nis saying Lexus and Toyleta. So maybe the Hay is

just trying to like be like, you know, the other cars, that's why they're not on the list, right, They're like, that's before you guys, But no, I mean, I just I thought it was the break. I would really expect, like the major manufacturers be on the list

for most ticket vehicles and they're not, And you know, it's just something.

And then when you start thinking about some of the cars, like there's certain cars that people drive that they just inherently drive like idiots. It's certain

cars, right, I'm not going to call what they are. You guys

know who you are, but I'm just saying that seems to happen a lot, and those cars aren't. Those cars were on the list, nor was

the manufacturer. That's just was kind of weird to me. So this is

very interesting. And now it was a good article. I enjoyed the read

and stuff. Like I said, if you guys go check it out,

look it up. I guess so many weird things that come across my way

and articles I read and stuff that I find fascinating. This is one of

the ones. I just really thought that it would be muscle cars would be

all over the list, and certain manufacturer be all over the list, and they weren't. I mean, I don't know, and I know, guys,

we are coming to the end of the show. It has gone by

quick. Make sure you guys come out and see us. We're gonna be

the Rolling Nights event here locally. It is on the eleventh. We'll be

out there hanging out with you guys, having a good time. To make

sure come out enjoy your Saturday Sunday's right around the corner. Make sure you

unplug. Spend some time with your kids. They'll love be for it.

Playboard game, fire to that barbecue, and we're gonna go ahead and get out here. You guys, get anything, have a great weekend. Cow

we're out here. See you guys later

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