Making Track Days a Household Name: The Story Behind HPDEjunkie.com (Dave Peters)

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The road to success is paved by all of us because everyone has a story.

We here at GTM are always amazed to discover that most people have no idea that track days

exist.

Sports car owners and driving enthusiasts are missing out on the best part, driving their

cars fast in a safe and controlled environment.

While we aren't alone, and the folks over at HPDEJUNKIE.com decided something should

be done to promote high performance driving events.

So they created a website with the goal of turning HPDE into a household name and Dave

Peters, director of HPDEJUNKIE, is here to tell us all about it.

And as always, I'm your host Brad.

And I'm Eric.

So let's roll.

Hey fellas, how are you?

How's it going Dave?

Real good, real good.

Thanks for having me.

All right Dave, well welcome to Brake Fix.

So from what we know, HPDEJUNKIE was started in 2015 based out of North Carolina, but

that can't be the whole story, can it?

Let's unpack the who, what, where, when of HPDEJUNKIE.

So yeah, I started it with another guy.

His name's John Marsh, and I guess it was after our first track day, and we both were

car enthusiasts and road race enthusiasts pretty much our whole lives.

My dad had me at Watkins Glen in 1970 for an F1 race.

So it started early for me.

You know, thought maybe I'd get into go-cart racing, but some things changed in our lives,

and that didn't really happen.

But I basically grew up wanting to be a race car driver, and was smart enough to realize

that my family nor I had the money to be a race car driver.

So it just kind of, yeah, so it kind of just remained a dream for me, and I, you know, was

going to a lot of races at VIR and rode Atlanta with my dad, and you know, loved it.

We always had a good time, had a big group of guys that would go, but still I wanted

to drive.

And at that point, I think track days were already going on, I just had no idea.

So I guess it was around late 2000s, I heard about it, and I knew that was the thing for

me, and I could afford to do it every once in a while.

So finally got to do my first one in 2013, and I knew right away one here and there wasn't

going to be enough.

John and I had tried to find businesses in the motorsport field that we could start

up, and literally this kind of came to me sitting at the computer trying to find our

second event.

And I had, you know, 56 tabs open, clicking back and forth, and comparing prices and times,

and which track we wanted most.

And the light bulb went off, and I was like, this is the business we start.

So neither one of us were really computer experience in the IT sense or website sense.

We knew you could pay someone to do that.

At least build it.

That's kind of what got it going, but it was also, we loved it so much that we wanted everybody

to know about it and know you could do it.

But I adamantly wanted to be giving back something.

So I think that kind of sums it up, why it started, how it started.

What type of information is HPE junkie collecting?

How are they updating this information, and how are you getting it out to your visitors?

As far as collecting, you know, the first couple of years, it's pound and Google, it's

search and track days, and HPE in any way, shape and form I could think of.

And, you know, looking at all the tracks, websites, and on their calendars, there would

be track day companies, and Locton's website, I got a lot from there.

So basically it was, you know, just collecting it myself with help from my partner at the

time, but yeah, it's kind of manually searched every year, and every year I get a little

better at it, I guess you'd say, more efficient.

So I have my list of all the companies, and usually they'll start releasing calendars.

Some is, they should be starting to come out.

In fact, wow, this has gone by so fast, I didn't even, it dawned on me that I need to start

looking at 2021 calendars and start putting them up.

But they'll start coming out around October, and then it'll kind of trickle all the way

into kind of late February.

So was the idea to evangelize high performance driving, or was it to correlate all the schedule

information, which came first?

Actually, they came together, I mean, you know, right off the bat, the schedule was part

of it.

I guess I didn't really feel like you could put enough together as a website to get people

out there if you didn't have something a little more.

And actually at the beginning, we had worked a deal with a safety equipment supplier, you

know, selling it through the site, and we're dropshipping.

We had some merchandise and stuff.

I think we thought we were going to get rich selling t-shirts and stickers, but that doesn't

really happen.

It felt like not only did people need to know about track days, but they needed the stuff

to go, and mainly the dates and the places.

So they kind of came together at the same time as, you know, after a couple years, I

realized that selling safety equipment wasn't doing us any good.

And unfortunately enough that I don't have kids and a wife, so I have a little more time

on my hands and he has kids and a wife.

So it was just getting a little bit too much for him.

And he graciously backed out, still does my taxes for me though.

You know, we sold a helmet here or there, but you know, so we made different arrangements

with that same company, which is Apex Performant.

Folks kind of a small mom and pop, but they've been with us since before we went live.

Just really good, good folks.

Please. So are you scouring the, let's say different calendars nationwide?

Are you regional? Absolutely nationwide.

And actually somewhat expanded into Canada for 2020.

COVID kind of, I don't want to say made it impossible, but I was playing catch up with

everything else so much that I didn't get to do the due diligence I wanted to do with

that in Canada.

I don't see why in 2021 we wouldn't have all of Canada up.

But there are some of the tracks there.

And I basically ended up listing those events from PCA groups that were American, but doing

a Canadian track day here or there.

So there definitely are some Canadian events on the, well, it's probably pretty slim now

that's getting cold.

But I mean, I feel like I've got everybody, every PCA region that does a DE, the BMW clubs,

the Audi clubs, but I'm always eager to find new ones and they're popping up all the time.

So yeah, anybody out there that's got a new track day company or knows of one, we're not

listening, please shoot us an email through the, through the website.

We would love to have it.

The other thing I kind of wanted to mention is how many groups and how many events there

are a year.

And if you count, which I do PCA and the Audi clubs and the BMW clubs as separate groups,

I mean, I think they should be since they all have their own schedules.

And there's about a hundred of those.

And then there's also about 104 profit companies in the US, which I guess I wanted to mention

it because it surprises people that ask.

And typically the past three years has been right in the 15 to 1600 events a year, which

kind of is telling me that we're kind of capped out.

Unless somebody can make more days happen in a year or build more race tracks, there's

not a whole lot of opportunity.

Tracks are booked.

I don't, they're booked, but I don't know that we've met saturation yet.

Right.

So that's a whole another, other thing.

So let's say you could have 200 cars in a weekend.

Yeah.

So the calendar days are full, but the number of participants is not.

You got 80 cars on track for three days.

It's like, well, hmm, okay.

No, I agree.

I don't think every event is filling.

I mean, I know every event's not filling.

If we're going to talk about scheduling, it poses a whole other scenario there because

I've preached for a while that groups that are, that continually complain that they're

suffering, that their numbers are down.

There's another group the next weekend also complaining that their numbers are down.

And I know that everybody wants to be able to make a profit and whatever it might be.

I'm not here to dictate how they do business.

It would make a lot of sense if those two groups got together, pulled their resources,

be it the coaches, investment, whatever it might be to make that event

successful.

But what ends up happening by doing that is now we don't have two events that failed

where the calendar is full.

We freed up a weekend at VIR.

We freed up a weekend at the Glen or wherever it is for another group to come in.

So then to your point where the calendar can't grow because it's basically maxed out by

consolidating events and making the events more popular and more successful, you have

basically opened the calendar up.

Yeah, I agree with you.

If there's a couple groups that aren't what we would call filling an event.

Now, I sure don't like when a group overfills an event.

And that happens.

And I mean, that to me is that's just not fair to the drivers.

You know, it just becomes a completely different thing when you're at VIR running

with 30, 35 cars versus 60, it's different.

Makes it a less experienced.

But what you're saying, I agree.

You know, there's a lot of groups that are not selling out and they probably,

you know, maybe someone, but they don't want to swallow their pride and partner

with someone else.

I don't really know, but it would be good for the whole hobby and industry.

If that happened, well, I mean, I'll give an example, right?

Because I came up through the autocross world and it got to a point there too,

where as lots were drying up, the calendar got full immediately, especially in the

in the DMV, right?

Down where you are in the Carolinas might be a different story.

I know still in the Southwest and in the South like places like Texas,

there's still an opportunity to have big autocrosses and stuff like that.

But here as things changed and open oceans of asphalt started disappearing,

it meant that clubs had to band together and you started to see it early on,

especially in the late nineties, early 2000s, where you would all of a sudden have

the Porsche Corvette challenge and you would have the BMW Porsche challenge

and you'd have these groups cross pollinating because their events were

suffering and the lots, it was a scarcity, right?

So it became a game of commodities.

And at that point, it made sense to merge together, get that week and get it full,

keep the excitement of autocross going so that the sport wouldn't die.

Now in our area, SCCA capitalizes on autocross.

I'll just say that they own it flat out.

There are still other clubs out there that do stuff and we partner with them,

you know, Corvette Club, et cetera, but it's not the same draw as going to FedEx

Field and you're still waiting around all day and there's 250 cars waiting

to get their turn to do the solo thing.

I don't know.

Again, it's economies of scale, but I see it in the track world with the smaller

driving organizations where it would make sense for them to pull their efforts

together and put on better events.

And again, I would rather come away from a big event as a newbie and say, man,

this was awesome.

All these cars, all this stuff, the math works out, right?

20 cars per mile, 24 cars per mile at VIR.

You're right.

That's 60 cars.

That's easy to do, though.

You still don't feel like you're driving around the beltway.

So again, I'd rather go to an event that was full and full of energy than like, man,

yeah, it was a VIR and basically drove around all day by myself.

No, I'm with you, man.

I don't like driving around by myself.

It just, there's just one lap and I'm good.

I want it and not that I have to pass anybody, but at least have somebody that I

can see in front of me and I gain in on them, you know, or they gain the same

thing letting people buy.

But man, I got to tell you, when too many cars, it's not that fun at VIR.

That's true.

I give you that.

It's the same at some point.

I mean, you get 40 cars in some point.

It's a traffic jam.

But and then being in the Miata and there were a lot of high horsepower cars that I

had a sore arm.

I literally had a bruise on the bottom of my arm from the windowsill, from putting

my arm out the window all day so much.

But all those point buys in the Miata, you know.

Yeah, well, no, I just exactly.

But yeah, I mean, I want it to grow and I agree with you.

There's room and there are some clubs doing that and some groups doing that.

I know Daytona has a couple, but offhand, you know, I don't really remember

listing any this year that were a dual event, except for some PCAs or some

BMW and even some of those were, you know, not necessarily PCA and PCA, but

there were some PCA and BMW and PCA and Aldi.

This year, 2020 has been a challenging year for everybody across the board.

And I'm, you know, I got to tip my hat to all the organizations that have come

back out to play when the tracks basically reopened in June.

They've been hitting it hard, you know, every weekend since.

And I think turnout has been good, but let's face it, turnout is has also

been scaled down, right?

So I don't want to get into the politics of how all that's working, but I'm

hoping that 21 will be a better year for everybody.

And we'll be looking forward to that new schedule coming out here, maybe in the fall.

Right. Absolutely.

I mean, I would think within the next month that we'll have actually, I know

I have one or two 20, 21 events already on the site.

But I would think, you know, the regular schedule should be coming out

starting in October is typically when it happens.

And, you know, most of the established groups like hooked on driving and Chin,

they relatively are going to have the same schedule that, you know,

the date number just changes by a day or two because, you know, it's a new year.

But so they're all relatively at the same places.

Yeah, even the newer guys, I mean, once they've

got data under their belt, they kind of hold on to it.

How often is the data updated?

Like how often are you getting in there?

I go through about every two months and just check everybody's schedules.

And, you know, I'm on a lot of their mailing lists, so I'll catch stuff

that way and just change it instantly.

And I find a lot on Instagram that they'll post they had updates or changes.

So, you know, it's really just paying attention.

And again, about every two months, I'll just go down the list of all of them

and double check the schedules.

And usually they're, you know, there might be one or two every time I check,

but it stays pretty consistent.

Do any of them reach out to you or do they come to you versus you having

to look it up and everything other than the email, newsletters and stuff

like that, they come out, do they come to you asking for your help, I should say?

Yeah, I mean, obviously in the beginning, I would say in the first three years,

not so much.

I mean, if you did, but now we definitely have them reach out to us.

They're always very humble asking, well, how do we get them like,

you just give me your list, list and where you want it linked.

And I'm happy to do it.

Which actually leads into my next question.

Are you linking through or are people clicking through to Motorsport Rag

or clubregistration.net or directly to, let's say, Chin's website?

How does that work?

You know, what's the process like once you've landed on HPD Junkies website?

I link to all of the above.

Basically, each event listed, which you can look at on a calendar form

or you can look at it through what I call the track search,

which will have every event for each track for the year.

And whichever the situation you can click on and it's going to send you

to either, you know, for instance, Chin has their own registration.

That's where I send you.

If someone uses Motorsports Rag or club registration, I know that

when I'm looking at stuff online, I want it to be the least clicks as possible.

Why not just send them where they need to go?

Let's talk about Chin as an example.

We have Mark Hicks on here not too long ago and he told us all about

their registration process and how, you know, they've got it basically

time gated, you know, X amount of weeks away from when the event is going to occur.

The registration actually opens up, but a lot of us forget that, right?

And even though we're reminding our listeners of that right now, it'd be

nice to get an automated alert to say, Hey, there's an upcoming Chin event

in my area.

Have you thought about signing up?

So is that a function of HPE junkie?

It is not at the moment that and probably a hundred other things that I

would love to do that I either don't have the budget for or the time for.

And again, I'm not an IT guy.

So it's not like common knowledge to me to, you know, this is out there

that you could be doing that's really easy, but I'm learning and, you know,

I've got friends here and there that kind of help me out occasionally with

that kind of stuff.

So, you know, as it grows, these things will happen and will expand.

But bottom line, it's a small budget business and I have a day job.

So yeah, hopefully someday it'll take you to the track itself.

Well, you know, it's very fortunate because it often seems that in the

motorsport world, there's always a sect of either engineers or IT professionals.

And so, you know, our listenership, there's a lot of IT folks out there.

So maybe there's some people that are interested in helping out, right?

And writing some code and whatnot.

I'm not volunteering myself yet.

I got plenty of code to write on my end too.

But let's talk about the kind of traffic that's coming through the website.

What are you seeing on average?

Like how many visitors are you seeing per month?

Yeah, about 9,000, 9,000, 10,000 a month, I would say.

It's like 100, 120 a year last year.

I can't quite remember.

But this year has been kind of weird.

It was definitely slow through the COVID.

People just weren't looking, you know, there was no real reason to, you know,

and it did start to pick up once things were relaxing.

Yeah, on the average, it's, you know, 250 to 350 a day.

I think that works out to around 9,000, 10,000 a month.

So for the organizers that are out there, you know, the mark Hicks of the world

and, you know, the David Reyes of HOD, et cetera, and the guys over at SCCA

that we talked to not too long ago as well, is there an opportunity for them

to go in on a self-service portal and start adding the information themselves?

Say HPDE junkie, or is it still something that you have to do?

It's still set up where I have to do it.

You know, actually, it would be great to have it that way.

But quite honestly, I think we'd end up with less events on the website

because, you know, some of the groups are great about giving me their schedules

before I ask, but some of them, you know, I don't mean this in a bad way,

but some of them don't really care that much, I don't think.

So I don't know that they would actually send them to me.

Got it. Or upload them themselves.

So I'm kind of cool with doing it myself.

And I guess it is what it is for now.

Understood.

So the scheduling part of HPDE junkie is just one facet of the website.

What are some of the other draws of coming to the website?

I wish I could woo you with something, but, you know, it really I've actually

simplified it to the beginning because I don't know, I just felt like

that's what most people want.

And that's what I would want if I were a driver using the website.

I would want it to be as easy as possible to find my event.

And so I really tried to focus on that.

And even to the point of advertising, I don't want, you know, people are like,

well, you should do Google ads and you should do this.

And I don't I don't like going to websites and seeing that.

So I don't want to do it.

So anything that's on the site, I want it to be related to the site

and something that I would use.

So I guess that's a bit of one is if you see somebody's link on my site,

I recommend using them or going to them.

And I'm sure if it grows like I'd like it to.

And like I think it will, I'll continue to do more features and such.

Very cool.

So one of the things I noticed, you know, coming around the site

and checking things out, one of the big mottos on there is drive fast safely.

So how does HP junkie promote safety?

You know, I think I should tell you that when we started the website,

it probably had a slightly different meaning than I kind of see it now.

When we started out, I think we both thought we would be attracting,

you know, the new drivers.

And that was kind of a don't go out driving on the back roads.

I really get bummed out by, you know, street drag racing,

because to me that it's even more dangerous

because there's so many other people around.

But it really the start of it was that.

And I guess that still comes into play because, you know,

that's kind of how I see an HPD is it's the safest way to drive your car fast,

like and really get the potential out of it.

And I just see driving on the back roads now.

I was really dumb.

But I guess it also now that I've done it for a while,

I see it as put your stuff on on jack stands when you get back from the track

and go underneath and, you know, check as many bolts as you can touch

and bleed your brakes often.

And, you know, that's how I kind of see it now as well,

is literally be a safe driver on the track for yourself and everybody else.

So what is something you wish you knew as someone starting out in HPD?

Something that, you know, looking back on it now.

No, I'm glad I'm glad you asked that.

Don't do anything to your car.

I'm a popular one.

Go out there, bone stock.

And, you know, I didn't do it.

And I just I don't think you know any better until you've done it.

Or unless you've really done some research.

Yeah, because I mean, everybody shows up with coilovers

and exhaust system and a cold air intake.

And I did in my Z.

I mean, you know, you see all the newbies showing up like that.

And then do your brakes first, because that was the first thing that I

I butt puckered on second track day at Carolina Motorsports Park

in the Z in the rain coming down the straightaway and pedal went to the floor

and turn one is a 90 degree left hand.

I'll never forget it.

And I was I felt pretty humiliated.

My instructor was like, so what have you done to your car?

Like mods.

And I said, I call it intake and exhaust system and lowering springs.

And he was like, do you do anything to your brakes?

Now it's like, no, it's got big a cappuccino for piston brakes.

They're fine. So let's go back to one of the things that you mentioned earlier,

which was you're talking about value for dollar and the fact that there's a price

comparison you can make on HB80 junkie dot com.

So what do you think if you're starting out and you're looking at this track

days are expensive?

I mean, let's call it what it is.

Let's call spade a spade.

But what do you think is the sweet spot in terms of track time for dollar?

And what should consumers be looking for?

To me, it's all based on the track because, you know,

VIR rental for the day is three to four times what a track like

Robling Road or CMP costs.

Kota, for example, is like $80,000 a day.

I think it is Daytona's $50,000 a day.

You know, obviously, the more it's a pro track,

the more you got to expect to pay for it.

To me, what's a really good deal is if you're getting more than four hours total

a day, you're getting a lot of track time.

That would kind of be my best judge of it.

But pricing really, I think, is pretty close between the different groups

at the same track.

You know, you're going to find some that are drastically higher and maybe one or

two that are drastically low, but they're all pretty close.

It's just probably more a personal preference, you know,

because some guys will like 20 minute sessions and you typically get six of those.

Some guys like 30 minute sessions and, you know, a group will do four of those.

So it kind of, you know, depends on what you like.

You could sit there with a few tabs open and compare one to another.

And well, this one's more expensive, but I'm going to get five hours track time.

And this one's a little cheaper.

And I think it really boils down to minutes per dollar.

It's kind of what you would break it down to our hours per dollar.

What do you think is a good starter track for people that are getting into this

and getting addicted to HPDE?

Well, I mean, I think any and it really is based on what's the closest one to you.

I think if you're starting and I guess I look at it because if you're starting

out, probably not pushing your car to anywhere close to its limit,

you're likely going to have an instructor in the car with you to keep you safe.

So it's at least going to give you the chance to see if you like it,

which you will be aware.

But yeah, I think any really, any track, and I mean, unless it's full of potholes,

but they probably don't have an events anyway.

As a track junkie or HPDE junkie, you've been in this now for seven plus years.

What has kept you going on top of just your love and passion for driving?

Is there a piece of advice you could give a newbie to say, Hey,

don't do 27 events a year, pace yourself.

This is how you keep the magic alive.

This is how you keep it going.

Do you have any advice there to say, you know, this is really how you should

space out your calendar?

I guess the advice I could give is what I've kind of come to for myself.

What did I feel was comfortable?

There were a couple of years I was trying to do spring and summer every two weeks.

And it just wore just wore me out.

But it wears the car out too.

And, you know, then you're you're tired.

You're going through tires and brake pads and oil and brake fluid faster.

So what's been kind of the magic for me is once a month.

And I like to start around March or early April and then quit late November.

And part of that is towards the end of the season, I get a little burned out.

I kind of feel like the car needs kind of a good overhaul.

And I shouldn't say overhaul, but it needs to be checked thoroughly.

You know, all the fluids need to be changed, checking your ball joints and all

that kind of stuff.

But and, you know, maybe I get a little more burned out because I'm really

busy at the track.

I really try to get around and meet people and talk to people.

But by November, I'm kind of ready for it to be done.

And then it takes a couple to three months.

And then I start itching again.

And usually that's about one of my cars coming close to being back on the garage floor.

Yeah, there's there's something known as like the three year hurdle.

Right. So oh, and you're talking more in a long term.

I haven't hit that yet.

So I can't really speak on it.

I've been hitting the once a month for probably a solid four years.

And I haven't hit it yet, but I hope it doesn't happen.

Yeah. Well, maybe again, it's it's because of a matter of convenience, you know,

life changes.

But, you know, we seem to go through these cycles of every three to four years,

especially in motorsport, where people kind of like you just see new faces in the long

timers, those of us that are extremely addicted to the sport.

We hang around forever, it seems like.

So Dave, is there anything that we didn't cover that you want to go over?

Or is there anything new coming out that people might be interested in for the

2021 season?

And also, you know, here's an opportunity for you to thank your sponsors,

shout out to different people, etc.

As we get closer to the end of our segment here, you know, next year,

I will have Canada added.

The only thing I can promise is we'll have every track day in the U.S.

that we can find listed and, you know, hopefully something else will grow from it.

And I do.

I would like to mention a few people that have, you know,

really helped us get the ball rolling apex performance, which I mentioned earlier.

Great folks and they've got some really good deals right now.

You know, it's kind of close out.

I kind of prefer to buy the five year old helmet and keep it for five years

because it's going to stink like hell anyway and get a new one cheap.

So I just got a 2015 helmet at a great price.

I know there's some other ones available.

And if you mention HPD, he junkie to them, they'll give you at least 10% off.

Probably not the close out stuff, but anything else.

Really great people.

I can't say enough about them.

Another guy that's kind of been really cool and helped me out a lot is Jim

Traumatano.

He runs with NASA Northeast.

He's got a blog called no, no money motorsports blog.

And to me, it's like the perfect track day blog, especially for the newer crowd.

I mean, he hits all of the really cool, you know, things you need to know.

The tires, the little triangles on your tires, why they're there.

Latest one came out today.

It's like 17 things to know about your brakes.

And I scan through it.

All great information.

G lock brakes been good to us.

Locked in motorsports has been really good to us.

Another one that I don't think a lot of people know about is tracklaps.com.

There's a link at the bottom of our homepage.

It has all the it's just data of different guys, track times across the country

and all the different tracks so you can either like compare what you're doing

or post yours and watch videos of other people to track.

I think it's a pretty cool resource.

And, you know, he's kind of been one of those guys that's been with me

since the beginning and just a really nice guy.

Yeah, visit the partners.

They're at the bottom of the homepage.

I wouldn't have them there if I didn't think they were worthy of an HPE reader.

So what else about HPE junkie?

Do you want to tell the audience or tell us the floor is yours?

Wow, you kind of caught me off.

This must be the trick question.

Those are coming.

Don't worry.

Oh, great.

You know, I guess I just want people to know that, you know, we're trying

to give an honest thing back to the sport.

You know, we don't really get a lot from the website.

We get some perks.

We're not getting rich by any means.

Um, it's finally where we're not coming out of pocket for it.

Again, you know, it's kind of like back to the advertising and the ease of using it.

I just really want to provide track day HPE world with an easy way to find events

and be as comprehensive about having everything that's out there.

And I get a lot of emails that, Hey, thanks for, for what you do.

And so for now, I feel like I'm doing what I can and just trying to do the best I can at it.

Absolutely.

I was going to say, we hear a GTM fully approve of what you're doing because we

often say all the time that this sport is a sport of convenience and you're not

looking to, Oh, I have to run with PCA or I have to run with, with HOD or Chen or

whatever you're looking for, who's going to be at this track at this day?

And then I'm going to run with them.

So I think what you're doing fits exactly with what a lot of the people that

do HPEs are looking for.

And I think it's going to help where it has helped bring new people in just

because you've simplified it so much for us.

I mean, it's simple to go to your website, pick a date that you want to run.

And that's who's running on that date.

I think it's perfect.

I think it's great.

Thanks, Brad.

And, you know, I, that's my goal.

You know, I looked at it like everybody knows the tracks they want to drive.

So we have that option of I want to go to VIR this year.

Well, here's 30 options.

You know, and you can click on each one of them and compare the prices and, you

know, whatever's makes you happy, how much run time you get, whatever it might be.

Then I also looked at it like, well, there might be a guy that is really busy and

he finds out he has this particular weekend open and he lives on the east coast.

What's going on on the east coast?

So, you know, at least you got the two options of you can check it either way.

So Dave, I can't thank you enough for coming on.

It's been super educational and I'm hoping that more and more of our listeners

will be using HPD Junkie in the future to correlate all that scheduling

information and get their schedule planned out for the year.

Because like we say, and we've said often, register early and register often.

And the easiest way to get to that information is through a site like HPDjunkie.com

where you can check out what is close to you.

And it is a really unique way of searching out those track events that are close by to you.

So again, Dave, I can't thank you enough for putting that type of service together

for the community.

It's a huge give back and it is definitely something that everybody should be checking

out if they haven't already.

Well, thank you very much for saying that.

Thank you as well for having me on your podcast.

It's been great talking with you.

Something I wanted to add really quick when you said about register early is I couldn't

agree more because the more the hobby grows, the faster they're going to fill.

And there's only so many race tracks and so many days in the year.

Exactly.

And you know, that's been part of our mission since 2014 is to continue to

spread motorsports enthusiasm.

And that's in all facets and all disciplines, right?

Because if we don't continue to spread then all these tools and all this knowledge

and the enthusiasm behind motorsport to the next generation or to people that just

didn't know and they got cars collecting dust, not being driven the way they were

intended or the way they were built, then the sport dies, right?

So it's very important that we continue to evangelize all of this.

And I don't want the sport to die because I hate golf.

I need something to do on Saturdays and Sundays and I don't like golf.

It's boring.

Me either.

There you go.

And on that note, I think it's time to end.

So thank you gentlemen.

We will talk again soon.

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