Maintenance is the work done to keep a car running well, like oil changes and repairs. Some cars, especially expensive ones, can need a lot of maintenance.
Air-cooled means the engine is kept cool by air instead of water. Older cars, like some Porsches, used this system, making them simpler and easier to maintain.
A wide body means the car has wider sides and fenders, which makes it look more aggressive and allows for bigger tires. This can help the car handle better when driving fast.
A cabrio is a car that has a roof that can be opened, so you can drive it with the top down. It's great for enjoying nice weather and feeling the breeze while driving.
The Porsche 356 is an old sports car that was made a long time ago, from 1948 to 1965. It's important because it was the first car made by Porsche and helped the brand become famous for making fast and well-built cars. Many people love it for its classic look and fun to drive feel.
The Rolls-Royce Ghost is a very fancy car that is all about luxury and comfort. It was first made in 2009 and is known for being really powerful and having lots of special features that make it feel like a royal ride. People talk about it because it's a symbol of wealth and high-class living.
Electric motors are parts that help cars move by using electricity instead of fuel. They are found in electric cars and are better for the environment than regular engines.
The Cadillac V16 is a very old luxury car made in the 1930s, famous for having a big 16-cylinder engine that made it really powerful and smooth to drive. It was one of the most luxurious cars back then, showing how good Cadillac was at making fancy vehicles. People talk about it because it's an important part of car history.
1000 horsepower from a thermic engine means it's a very powerful gas or diesel engine, which can make cars go really fast. 'Thermic' just means it works by burning fuel.
A double clutch system is a special kind of car transmission that helps the car change gears more quickly and smoothly. It's often used in very fast cars to make them even faster.
A hypercar is an extremely fast and expensive type of sports car that has the best technology and performance. These cars are usually made in very small numbers and are considered the best of the best.
A 'Concor' is a fancy car show where really nice and rare cars are displayed and judged. People come to see beautiful cars and sometimes to win awards.
The Plymouth Cuda is a classic American car that was popular in the late 1960s and early 1970s. It's known for being fast and having a cool design, which makes it a favorite among car lovers. People often talk about it because it represents a time when cars were all about power and style.
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Coming up on today's podcast, Hannah is back from the world's largest
showcase of supercars, the Concor at the Wynn in Las Vegas.
We'll bring you my exclusive interviews with the president of Bugatti.
And Pagani's own Christopher Pagani.
Wow, two like stratospheric brands.
And I'm excited about that.
And I'm really happy that you went there and did that.
But I've been kind of bummed out all week.
I have a feeling this has to do with a car, Matt.
Yes, I mean, super depressed that I missed out on an auction
on bring a trailer for what for me is like a grail, a grail car.
Okay, so I've been like back on bring a trailer like constantly looking at it.
And I'm seeing a lot of sweet deals.
Like remember last week we were talking about this Ferrari 360 with the six speed.
Yes.
And it went for 89,000 and, you know, low miles, everything in perfect condition.
And I thought, damn.
Like surprising.
Kind of wish I pulled the trigger on that.
But I also like it's a Ferrari.
I don't need that in my neighborhood really.
And I feel like the maintenance could get out of hand, maybe not, but could.
You also sent me that FF Ferrari.
Yeah.
A gorgeous FF in like a dark, like a midnight blue with burgundy leather.
Also low miles, amazing conditions, some kind of special edition.
And it went for 146, right?
I think 143.
I just pulled it up.
143.
I mean, that's, you're not losing money on that car.
No, it's cool.
Yeah.
But again, this is, you know, you can't get that with a manual and it's cool.
I love it.
But I just don't know how my neighbors, how my wife would react, you know.
She'd probably be excited.
No, she would not be excited.
But, you know, I've had and she's had a 911.
So that's in my wheelhouse.
This is acceptable.
I think, you know, it's a car that could be a super car or just a very great sports car,
depending which model you get.
But Porsche is, you can pull that off in even a middle-class neighborhood.
Sure.
And so I've been looking for a long, long time for an older, air-cooled Porsche, not because
I'm all up on the whole like Ted Gushu, Lufka Coolt, like I don't care, you know, if it
has a radiator or not, but I just want something that's simple, that's mechanical.
Yes.
That's, you know, analog in every sense of it, even the steering.
So I'm looking at basically 964 and previous because I don't like the 993, what they did
with the headlights.
So a lot of people consider 993 like the pinnacle of air-cooled Porsches.
It was the last one.
Personally, the style just doesn't do it for me.
Okay.
So you're describing basically 90s.
Needs to be 90s for you.
80s, 70s.
I'm happy like with the, I would be cool to get the year of my birth, you know.
But what I also want is the wide body.
I like the flared hips, you know, both front and back.
And the 930 is what you want, if you're, you know, what you're looking for, if you want
that, usually, right?
That's where they really came out with the first width.
But that's a turbo.
And although a lot of people love the turbo and they say it's hilarious and they like,
Barry Wirtholz loves the kick, you know, when it comes on.
I want like a more linear, controllable torque curve.
So I want a naturally aspirated car.
And you can get sometimes like there's the M491 package on the 3.2s or the WTL on the
964s, which is the, I think it was the wide turbo look or something like that, the factory
turbo look with the naturally aspirated engine, but they're pretty rare, right?
You just don't see them around that much.
They're not as expensive as the 930s, but they're just scarce.
So this is leading us to something, you saw something.
Exactly.
One of the things Porsche did, and I also love cabrios.
I know it's not purist, but I would probably drive the car mostly in the summer.
So it's fun.
Top down.
Yes.
Porsche made in the 964 generation an America Roadster, which I don't know the whole history
of it.
It was like to commemorate a 356 or something.
They did the same.
Cool.
And it's the turbo body, so the wider hips.
It's a convertible and it has the turbo, like the upgraded brakes and everything, but it
has a naturally aspirated motor and they're kind of, they're few and far between.
They only made like 250 of them.
And so you never really see them or when you do, they're like 200 grand and more.
But there was one on bring a trailer last week that was absolutely beautiful, like almost
perfect, literally a grail car.
Did you see it?
I showed it to you.
I'm looking at it.
I went back into our texts and I pulled it up.
What do you think?
What do you think of it?
It's so you.
It's like the, like if I imagine Matt Miller being happy driving, I see you in this car.
And it's the classic silver.
It's cool.
It's cool.
It's different.
It's, I like it.
I like it.
It's good.
It's just like no frills, everything you need, nothing you don't.
For the car also, you know, like it says roadster on the back.
Instead of Carrera, something or nine 11 or whatever it just says roadster.
Yeah, it's cool.
No, this is very, this is cool.
And this says to your point, it says it was produced to commemorate the 40th anniversary
of the three, five, six America road.
I knew it was something like that.
You got it right.
You got it right.
And I'm looking at this following the auction.
I remember when it was like five days, four days, three days.
And I thought, this thing is going to go for 250 because they're just, they don't come
around that often.
They're so popular right now.
And it's the air cooled, obviously the G 50 manual transmission speed.
And I just thought, like why bother?
I'm never going to be able to afford this like fun to watch, but I didn't watch the
last few days of the auction.
Were you, did you hit the little star that says watching?
Yes.
You were watching this.
The problem I have is that I hit that star for too many things.
So my inbox constantly has those.
And then it, at the end went for 110,000, which is, I know it's a sizeable chunk of
change.
Like it's a fairly large amount of money, of course, of course, but it's so cheap for
this car.
And I can't think about anything else.
I'm like preparing for my daily broadcast on Bloomer television.
And I should be, you know, reading notes from Rick Reader at Blackrock on, you know, the
labor economy.
And instead I'm talking to chat GPT about when am I ever going to find an America Roadster
again for 110,000 and the chat bot is like, never do you idiot?
Why didn't you pull the trigger?
Oh, Matt, I'm sorry.
I can only say I'm sorry.
This, this is a loss.
This is a huge loss.
I don't know what to tell you.
It's killing me.
Do we know?
Could you figure out who bought it?
Like do you know the handle of that person?
I hope whoever came, whoever won the big doesn't come up with the money because sometimes that
happens, you know, the, you know, the ghosts, but I just, I'm going to probably have to
wait another few years at least until something like this.
I don't need the cabrio.
I'm happy to have, like I said, anything with the wide body and an NA motor, I would take
and obviously I would take a 930 turbo as well, but those are very expensive, not exactly
what I want.
But this is your white whale in a way, exactly.
Could be the one that got away, had a white interior, unfortunately, I would have changed
that right away.
That's tricky.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, sorry.
I'm sorry for your loss.
Enough of hard time.
Enough of my complaining.
Coming up, we've got inside intel on what's next for Bugatti at a far higher price tag
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I'm Hannah Elliott.
Now let's talk about Bugatti.
It's the name we all know and they're doing very well.
I had this great conversation with Christophe Piochan, the president of Bugatti, who told
me their order books are full until 2029, which is, by the way, that says something
about how well the rich are doing in this world.
The rich are really doing well.
They're just getting richer and richer and I every day I'm looking at the stock market,
which, OK, today was a down week, the first down week in four, but still well over 6,700
on the S and P. We just had the most bond issuance in any year of all time, six trillion
dollars of bond issuance.
And we're not even at the end of the year.
Elon Musk just got, I was just going to say a trillion dollar pay package approved.
And by the way, overwhelmingly positive, the vote 75% of shareholders were like, yes,
pay him a trillion dollars.
This does seem like quite a moonshot type company.
You know, I've heard the justifications for it.
Like we need to give him very high goals because that is how that is the nature of this
company and it always has been.
And obviously he won't receive that payout unless he accomplishes these tasks that have
been set before him.
Right.
He has to make Tesla worth eight and a half trillion.
And that would, to be fair, make a lot of other people very rich as well, right?
I mean, their market cap has to basically go up seven X.
In any case, this is all to say that more and more people can afford Bugatti's.
I was just going to say that exact same thing, Matt.
Let's get to my interview with Christophe Piachon from Bugatti.
How are you?
Very good.
Very good.
You seem very calm.
It's great to be here in the wind in Las Vegas and seeing so much Bugatti at one place.
It's unbelievable.
Is it true that this is the world's largest grouping of Bugatti's ever?
Ever.
Believe me, I'm sitting on the source where normally all Bugatti's are produced.
And I never saw so much cars on one spot as I did today.
We will have over 66 modern Bugatti together, gathering here in Las Vegas.
And that's the Veyrons, the Charons.
Will we have some tourbillons here too?
One tourbillon.
Incredible.
Mostly, this time we are celebrating the 20 years of Veyron.
And I have to say, it's also a bit emotional for me because I'm part of this journey since the beginning, let's say, since 2002.
And working since the beginning with all projects and ideas from Ferdinand Piach.
And seeing after 20 years so much modern cars together here in Las Vegas, it's really emotional.
Okay, so electric engine, electric motors versus internal combustion engines.
Because this is the big debate, of course.
What I hear is that the type of customer in this price point actually does want a combustion engine and is asking for it.
Is that also what you're seeing?
That was the feedback we received a few years ago when we started the analysis as a clinic with our potential customers or existing customers of Veyron.
So that was a clear feedback.
The next generation of Bugatti should have at least a thermic engine.
And if not fully with a thermal engine, with maybe hybrid.
And that's how came the idea with the tourbillon.
Why are they so obsessed with combustion engines?
I think it's a sensation.
You don't drive a Bugatti as a daily.
That's something which you use.
I certainly don't, no.
There is few customers which are using it as a daily car, but they want to have some sensations.
They want to have, for sure, the acceleration, the feeling of top speed, but also the sound of the engine.
And till now, we have the W16, which is very unique for Bugatti with different stages of power.
And now with the complete new generation we created with the tourbillon, we also reveal very sensitive and acoustically impressive V16 with a sensation of a natural aspirated engine.
A hybrid is acceptable from your customers.
Your customers are telling you hybrids are acceptable because they still can tap into.
Is that accurate?
They use, I would say, we are using the hybrid as a performance support.
Because we wanted to have a more emotional car by having a natural aspirated engine.
But the weakness of a natural aspirated engine is with the low raves, you don't have the torque.
And now with the combination with 800hp electric plus 1000hp thermic, that's really a game changer.
You know what I think is really interesting is, we're not just talking about pure speed.
Because we know that electric technology can get us super fast speeds really quickly instantly.
But what you're describing is not just about speed, it's a combination of some sort of tactile experience.
Because how many, how often are driving our customers over 400km per hour?
Very few times.
And last time we organized an event like this, it was in Cap Canaveral.
Oh gosh.
Just drove their own car on the landing place from the space shuttle.
But most of the time they are using it on the highway or by curvy roads in the mountains.
And then you need to enjoy the acceleration, the torque.
And the sensation of a nice engine in the back of you.
And this is really what we want to trigger.
That we also want to have such kind of expression and feeling of acceleration.
But not only the pure acceleration of which you can get with an electric car,
but also with a sound which is accordingly.
Sure, of course.
Now let's talk about a manual transmission because it goes hand in hand with the conversation
with the combustion engine because I often hear people say, oh, I'd love to get a manual,
whatever, Aston Martin or Pagani like we just were talking.
Whether or not they actually would purchase it, everyone says they want it.
Do you hear that from your customers as well?
And would you ever consider it?
We heard about it and we are looking also at it what it should be.
But don't forget that 20 years ago when we introduced the Veron with the first
double clutch system with an hypercar, which when I have to say the Veron was the first
hypercar at all.
And it was really the creation of a new segment.
And the first test drive we had and I was the one which was organizing the test drive
and making it myself also with customers.
And they were impressed or smooth and how easy it is to drive because it's not so common to
have over 1000 horsepower available, but to have it easy to drive.
This is really the cue.
And that's what we manage with the Veron, which for me is fitting to the philosophy which we have
that we have a luxury car, which is also the fastest one, but easy to drive.
And so it sounds like even if customers say we really want it.
You know, the manual gear is something more demanding for the driver.
Yes.
It's requesting a lot of more experience in art of driving.
And that could be for some of our customers very interesting.
And maybe we'll look at that in the future.
But first of all, we want to satisfy 99 percent of our customers,
which are happy with the local system.
Okay.
I want to ask about speed records.
Obviously Bugatti has held some wonderful land speed record titles in the past.
Do you also anticipate you will continue to chase those in the future?
The focus for me is more the liability and yes, speed is important.
Speed we will focus on.
We have for sure seen what happens with the Chinese electric car,
which broke our record.
Best respect for that.
But we still have the record with the ICENG.
Yes, of course.
And I have to imagine it does matter to your customers.
That is something that attracts them.
Yes.
Is that true?
It's true because it's a bit the quartet.
You know, my house, my car, and that's the fastest one,
that joker which you have in your cards.
And anyway, if you are driving on the road,
you know I can be the fastest one.
Yeah.
Okay.
Finally, I just want to ask you for your take on where we are right now in an industry.
Obviously, it's a really chaotic and difficult, challenging time.
Every automaker is trying to figure out how best to navigate tariffs and the economy
and everything that's happening.
How are you feeling about Bugatti in this moment?
And what is your strategy moving forward?
I have to say we are today in a very comfortable situation
because we are sold out till 2029.
The 250 Tourbillon are sold out.
Means that my best or my task is to deliver these cars to the loyal customers
which give us the confidence and confidence for their engagement.
And I really see a bright future for the brand.
What we have seen is at the beginning, we create a niche with the Veyron.
The hypercar market was really the first one, the Veyron.
And every time we are making the top of the pyramid of the hypercar always sharper.
And that's what we also did now with the Solitaire program to really make it like a needle.
And I think in the future, it will be always more demanding.
But if we continue on the way we are today with
overreaching the expectation of our customers, I really see a bright future for the brand.
Coming up if you thought that was cool, just wait because there's more.
We hear from Christopher Pagani of the Pagani automobile brand next.
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Hannah, you really flexed your muscle down at the Win Concor, the Las Vegas Concor.
What is the official name?
What do they call that event?
The official name is the Concor at Win Las Vegas.
But colloquially, we just call it the Las Vegas Concor.
All right.
So in any case, a huge gathering of Bugatti's more supercars than have ever gotten together
anywhere else, I'm guessing, in the country.
And that means there were a lot of Pagani's as well, an even rarer mark.
Hannah, what did Christopher Pagani tell you?
He's what?
He's Horatio's son, right?
That's right.
Christopher is Horatio's son.
He is the head of marketing for Pagani.
But his role is really bigger than that.
Obviously, he's aired at the throne and he actually acts as really the translator and
communicator for his father.
Horatio speaks Spanish and Italian.
He doesn't really conduct interviews in English.
So really, Christopher is the mouth of the company.
Chris, thank you for joining us.
It's so nice to see you.
Thanks for having me.
This is, you were just telling me the first time that you've been to the Concor in Vegas,
can you tell me just a little bit about why this year, what was so compelling for you to come
and then tell us a little bit about the crazy amount of cars that you have this year on the
field.
It's kind of mind-boggling.
Yeah, I've been coming to Vegas a few times in the past.
And I think the car culture became bigger and bigger here.
And also, we have some nice customers in this area.
And when we discussed internally to come and do the event at the concourse,
we thought it was a great match with what we do.
The timing is great for us as well.
And it's kind of a special year because we are doing, for the first time, we're showing
the Waira Codalunga Speedster.
I'm glad you said it and not me.
That will be the first time we'll show it at a car event with the small unveiling in Italy
for our customers.
But it was a private event.
And this is the first time we take it to a public event.
So it will be pretty crazy.
I was talking to the team here in America and they told me there are more than 40 Paganis
between Zonda, Wairas and Utopias.
So it will be pretty special.
We had a great attachment to the cars.
So when we see them back, it's like we remember when we produced it and the relationship with
the customer.
So some of the cars we haven't seen in a while, it will be nice to see them again.
Now, is it true that Pagani has made around 600 cars total in all of your existence,
since your father founded the company in 1991?
Is that accurate?
So it's a mix of Zonda, Wairas and Utopias.
Yes, it's a very small number.
The first car was presented in 1999.
It took a while to do the first car.
So he did the final drawings of the Zonda back in 1992.
And it took him seven years to build the first car.
So after that, we did small production, five, 10 cars a year.
And up until now, we are capable of doing roughly 60 cars a year.
So the company in the last 25 plus years has been able to increase a little bit production worldwide.
I want to get to the news about the Speedster, the car that you're going to show us this weekend.
Can you tell us just a little bit about why it was so critical to build it now on a market
where we're seeing in a way so many supercars in general?
What makes the Speedster really special, especially to your consumers and owners?
So Speedster, let's say the Kodalunga project has, let's say, two cars.
So you have the Kodalunga Coupe and then the Speedster, which just came out a few months ago.
The Kodalunga was celebrating, Kodalunga means long tail in Italian,
and the Kodalunga is celebrating the essence of cars in the 60s and 70s,
where they had to have a longer shape to be aerodynamic.
Now you don't need that anymore, but because they are aerodynamic studies,
did the big steps into how the air flows into the car, but the Speedster was
more of an inspiration that came from Porsche.
My father loves Mercedes-Benz, of course, but Porsche for him is a big love of his childhood,
and he has an apartment in Milan where he goes every week, and there is always a car meet
that is just around the corner from his house every Sunday, and he sees from his balcony,
he sees the cars leaving from the car show, and he saw this Porsche 356 Speedster,
and he sees the design, the shape of how the car looks like, and he said,
I need to do something on a Kodalunga that has an inspiration to that car, and it took a few
months to, and then he just got back home, spoke to the designers about the idea,
and then they worked hard, they created this, and this is how the car came out.
And what has the response been from your customers?
There's a wait list.
Say no more.
Luckily, every time there's a project, we call it Grandi Complicazione, which is Grand
Complication, comes from the watch industry, so it's one-off cars, few off cars, limited
edition cars. There's a lot of interest. Not every Pagani customer can approach those cars,
but so far, the reception has been pretty good. They only saw photos, that's the first time they
will see the car. So let's talk under the hood. I'm V12 combustion engine. Yes.
Talk to me about the conversations that you have internally about continuing
combustion engines when so many people are experimenting with hybrid or electric technology.
So when we had to think of a new car from the Wyra, so it was the right time as a life cycle to
think about the new car that was the Utopia, we have a great dialogue with our customers.
We talk to them and we try to engage with them and understand what they like.
They feel they can give you honest feedback about that.
And there's full transparency. There's a lot of back and forth. Probably because we're a small
company, we can still have this human interface, which is very important. And so they gave us a
lot of feedback on what they really wanted on the future cars. And the answers were V12.
You got to stick with the V12 and not do V8 or others. Lightweight. So it has to still
be a lightweight car. We want the manual transmission back. So that was a big challenge,
which on the Cuda Lunga Speedster, you find it also. And no hybrids.
Why? Because of pure analog driving. This is what you were hearing.
The driver in the center. So less complications in terms of
a powertrain that has a hybrid solution is always more complicated than a full electric or a full
because it's both. You have both that have to engage with each other. And
the Autopia was actually born to be produced in two ways. So the full V12, no hybrid,
and a full electric car. The Autopia platform. And after six, seven years of development,
we have a team that works on EV cars. And my dad is a big enthusiast also on,
let's say, new projects. And an EV car is exciting. It's a thing you got to study. You have
talked to the suppliers. And you have to really think in a different way. And challenges for
him are accepted. When you can make a step forward, it's always fun. We were ready to
find out the solution on the engineering part of the EV car. We did a round table with all the
dealers worldwide. And none of the customers wanted an EV car. So they said, let's stick with the V12.
You mentioned that a manual transmission is more difficult. Yeah. Can you tell me what you mean
by that? What do you mean? Do you mean engineering wise? Or do you mean more difficult to make money?
Honest. Let's say creating an analog car in 2025 is much more difficult than making it 15 years ago.
Because 15 years ago, you had all the supply chain to still make
gearbox clutch things that can be fitted to your car. So all the development of the gearbox
itself, the synchronizers with a car that has more than a thousand Newton meters of torque,
it's a challenge because the drivability of it needs to be enjoyable on a slow pace.
For someone who is not a professional. No, but in general, our cars, they need to be enjoyed at
slow speed and also at fast driving fast. And the amount of kilometers that you have to put
all your prototypes on a solution like that, it's again, is a big challenge. But
we accept it because we believe customers are paid back by the decision.
Matt, I really have to say, I missed having you sitting across from me on the desk at the show.
It was a very interesting show. It's not on the premier level of Pebble Beach or Amelia Island
yet. But I have to say this Las Vegas concor is, I predict, going to only get bigger.
Well, I'm hopefully one day I'll be able to go and I'll get you west. I'm a little bit jealous
because Pagani's are some of my favorite vehicles. I've actually been to the factory on numerous
occasions. Cool. What was it like? It's like one big room in which they're building only two or
three vehicles at a time. But you get to see sort of every aspect of what they do. And you get
a tour with the whole history of Horatio starting or becoming chief engineer at Lamborghini. And
then he was the only guy who thought they should get an autoclave for carbon fiber. And Lambo was
like, now we don't need to invest in that. And so he bought it himself and then did all of their
work. And he still does a ton of their work. So it's just a really cool place. And I love the
you know, the precision CNC custom made cuts of each individual piece. And obviously I'm a
big fan of the 12 cylinder motor. And it's just artistry. It's just honestly, it's craftsmanship.
It really is. And it's so apparent. And you know, these cars are polarizing. Some people
don't like them. They think they're too flashy. They're too to whatever. But the people who do
love them really see them as a celebration of this exact craftsmanship that you're describing
the celebration of these in a way very rare, human driven practices. And I just think that's
so cool. These are not cookie cutter cars. These are these are truly hand built works of art.
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About this episode
Hannah Elliott shares insights from the Concor at the Wynn in Las Vegas, featuring exclusive interviews with Bugatti's president, Christophe Piachon, and Pagani's Christopher Pagani. The discussion highlights Bugatti's strong demand, with orders filled until 2029, and the brand's commitment to combustion engines despite the rise of electric vehicles. Matt Miller reflects on his missed opportunity to acquire a dream Porsche, sparking a conversation about the allure of classic cars and the challenges of finding the perfect model. The episode blends personal anecdotes with industry insights, making it a captivating listen for car enthusiasts.
The podcast welcomes Christoph Piochon of Bugatti and Christopher Pagani of Pagani talking about the state of supercars from the SiriusXM studios at the 2025 Concours at Wynn Las Vegas. Plus, Matt misses out on his dream car, a Porsche 964 America Roadster.
