Military Grade Automobiles | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep 15
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Term
military-grade aluminum
Military-grade aluminum is a strong and lightweight metal used in things like airplanes and tough trucks. It's made to be very durable and can handle heavy use.
Car
Ford F-250
The Ford F-250 is a strong truck that can carry heavy loads and is often used for work. It's popular among people who need a reliable vehicle for tough jobs.
Car
Ford Bronco
The Ford Bronco is a type of SUV that is built for off-road driving. It's known for being tough and able to handle rough terrain, making it popular for outdoor adventures.
Car
Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang GTD is a special version of the Mustang sports car that costs a lot of money, around $330,000. It's designed for people who really love fast cars and want something unique.
Term
horsepower
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. More horsepower usually means a car can go faster.
Car
Ford GT
The Ford GT is a fast and stylish sports car made by Ford, famous for its racing history and modern design.
Term
four cylinder
A four-cylinder engine has four parts that help it run. It's usually smaller and uses less fuel, which is why many smaller cars use this type of engine.
Car
Toyota Tundra
The Toyota Tundra is a large truck that can carry heavy loads and is often used for towing or off-roading. It's known for being tough and reliable.
Term
car rotisserie
A car rotisserie is a tool that helps you work on cars by letting you spin them around. This makes it easier to reach all parts of the car when fixing or painting it.
Car
Volkswagen Beetle
The Volkswagen Beetle is a small car with a unique round shape that many people recognize. It was very popular in the 1960s and 70s and is often seen as a symbol of that time.
Car
Mini Cooper
The Mini Cooper is a small car that many people love for its unique look and fun driving experience. It's been around for a long time and comes in different styles.
Car
Mini Clubman
The Mini Clubman is a bigger version of the Mini Cooper. It has extra space and different doors, making it more practical for carrying things or passengers.
Term
DeSoto teeth
DeSoto teeth are parts from old DeSoto cars that people like to use on other cars to make them look cooler. They are known for their unique shape and style.
Term
chop mercs
Chop mercs are Mercury cars that have been changed a lot to look different and cooler. People often lower the roof and make other changes to give them a unique style.
Car
Cobra
The Cobra is a famous sports car known for being fast and powerful. It's a classic car that many collectors want to own, and it can be very expensive.
Car
Shelby Cobra
The Shelby Cobra is a classic sports car from the 1960s that is famous for being very fast and powerful. Because there are not many original ones left, they can be very expensive and are sought after by collectors.
Concept
barn find
A 'barn find' is when someone finds an old car that has been hidden away for years, usually in a barn. These cars can be special and worth a lot of money, even if they look bad.
Part
hood hinges
Hood hinges are the metal parts that hold the hood of a car in place and let it open. They help keep the hood aligned so it closes properly.
Concept
Art Morrison chassis
An Art Morrison chassis is a special frame that car enthusiasts use to make their cars stronger and handle better. It's often used in custom car builds.
Part
headers
Headers are special pipes that help the engine get rid of exhaust gases faster. They can make the car run better and sound different.
Car
Chevrolet C8
The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast and stylish sports car that many people love. The C8 model is special because its engine is located in the middle of the car, which helps it handle better and go really fast.
Term
block heater
A block heater is a device that helps keep your car's engine warm when it's really cold outside. This makes it easier to start the car and helps it run better in winter.
Car
Suzuki Samurai
The Suzuki Samurai is a small SUV that was popular for its ability to go off-road. People like it because it's simple and fun to drive, especially in rough terrain.
Term
oil change
An oil change is when you replace the old oil in a car's engine with new oil. It's important for keeping the engine running smoothly.
Term
urethane primer
Urethane primer is a special coating that helps paint stick to a car's surface. It's used after fixing dents or rust to make sure the paint looks good and lasts longer.
Term
one K putty
One K putty is a type of filler used to fix small dents or scratches on a car. It's easy to use because you don't have to mix it with anything before applying.
Term
window primer
Window primer is a special coating used before putting in car windows. It helps make sure the glass sticks properly and doesn't leak.
Part
combi putty
Combi putty is a special type of filler used to fix tiny holes or imperfections in car bodywork. It's meant for small fixes and isn't strong enough for bigger repairs.
Concept
circle track car
A circle track car is a type of race car made to go fast on round tracks. They are built differently than regular cars, so you can't just take one and make it a street car.
Part
aluminum body
An aluminum body means the outer part of the car is made from a lightweight metal called aluminum. This helps the car go faster and use less fuel, but it can cost more to make.
Car
Honda Civics
The Honda Civic is a small car that many people use for daily driving. It's known for being reliable and saving gas, which makes it a smart choice for getting around.
Term
rear engine car
A rear engine car is one where the engine is placed at the back of the car. This design can change how the car drives and feels on the road.
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What do you know today, dude? I know that I don't plan to be getting any cars made out of beer cans. I mean military-grade aluminum
Yeah, I just showed you that that video of the f-250. That's pretty crazy. They're making a tandem box
So they cut a bunch of two boxes apart to make a
tandem
Axel box and that's like you imagine welding that stuff together. Whoo. No way
I mean, I've welded a lot of aluminum, but
I don't have to finish it
Especially down a big bed scene where there's you don't really have a lot of access to
To get that weld hammered out, you know, like right? It's a big reach
Even for a planching hammer that I don't think I don't I don't have anything that would get in there aside from that ox
Planching hammer in your arm with a dolly on the inside
Be pretty rough
Yeah, I
I
And I think it's flexing of the door over time.
Honestly.
You know, as we were going down,
we ended up on a highway that was being redone
and it was like in springtime
and it was fucking terrible.
It was like, we were going way too fast,
but like it's a Bronco which handle it, right?
So we're going way too fast.
And I think I really think that the back edge of the door
was coming in and hitting the body.
Yeah.
For real.
And then when you roll the window,
you roll the window down just a little bit
and the window will flex a little bit
because the door's aluminum and the frame's aluminum,
but it's actually hitting something on the inside of the door.
It was like, I watched so many video after we got that,
I seen so many videos that are popping up
with people having window problems
and then software problems with them too.
But anyway, it's back to aluminum.
I think it's shit.
Do you think that the push for aluminum
in the new vehicles is fuel mileage
or is it just like innovation?
They're just trying to step up to the next,
what they think the future is.
Because it's definitely not cost.
I think it's aluminum.
I think it's just aluminum.
I think it's the lightweight to make ultimately
not need as much power, not need as much fuel.
It's ultimately like, I think there's a place for it,
but like you say in production vehicles,
the things that are gonna be used and abused,
the swing panels of a vehicle,
I would argue that the swing panels
need to be something more rigid than aluminum,
but because they're getting abused more.
Like make the fender out of aluminum.
Make the core panels bolt on out of aluminum
because they bolt on on these vehicles.
So make those out of aluminum.
Don't make them out of steel.
Make the swing panels out of steel
because those are the ones that get abused.
So to me, it's a little bit backwards,
but you're never gonna fix that.
Ford's still trying to dig themselves
out of a hole that they seemingly can't figure out.
In time.
The CEO is constantly,
the CEO is constantly out out there saying,
his employees basically,
they don't have enough technicians worldwide
for all the dealerships and all that.
And then in the plants themselves,
they're like trying to get the employees,
there's kids to work there.
Because that was kind of like how it used to be back
in the day, it'd be like a generational thing
that people work there for generations
that people would work at a place.
So he's trying to do that, which is admirable,
but you also need to have a reason to stay.
It's still a big old corporation
and you look at the bullshit that they spend their money on,
this GTD that they have, that's $330,000 Mustang.
It's like, I don't know who the fuck's buying it,
but there's a guy in Wisconsin
that just bought one last this last week,
a bar in Wisconsin bought one.
So.
Yeah.
I mean, they're cool.
I like them.
I mean, it seems odd.
But for, to me, I don't really understand the difference.
Like you can get a Coyote Mustang
for a Procharger on it and you're at 800 horse,
like you're, that's what that car has.
Yeah, but that car has a lot more than a power number.
Yeah, but yeah, weight ratio,
because it's got a trans axle in the back, I believe,
but it's not like $200,000 more pool to me.
No.
It's just not, it still looks like a Mustang.
I think it actually looks worse.
I think the wings on them look like shit.
It's like bolted to the seat,
the back of the seat pillar kind of thing.
I'm not really, I don't dig it at all.
I don't dig it either, but I think they're,
they're playing a different game.
And I think the kind of people that are buying that car,
they don't care about the investment
or the dollar amount on them.
Maybe don't you think they would be better off
just not using a Mustang as a platform?
Yeah, but I think the name maybe carries.
It's a Mustang, but I feel like it's probably
just to be competitive with the ZR1.
And I think that Ford would just pop a feather
in their cap to say the Mustang does XYZ.
But it's not competitive with the ZR1
when you're comparing it to price.
True.
Because you can buy a ZR1 and a Z06
for the price you can buy that GTD.
Yeah, but if you're a diehard Ford guy,
you're not using logic.
But if you're a diehard Ford guy
and you have that much money, you're gonna buy a GT.
That's my argument.
Like I'd rather have a GT.
Yeah, scarcity though.
I think all the GTDs, weren't they like
you have to go through an approval process to buy them?
That they wouldn't sell them to just everybody?
Yeah, I know that GTs were like that too.
Our ex-employer actually bought a 19
and I heard he just waited till he could sell it
and then sold it and didn't drive it.
Really?
Yeah.
And it left on a flatbed trailer
in the middle of a snowstorm.
We're on a back of a flatbed.
In the middle of a snowstorm.
Open flatbed, yeah.
It's like that's pretty sweet.
Like the most expensive car you've ever touched in your life.
It'll rinse off.
It's just water.
Yeah. It's just cold water.
Just, it's just salt, just salty water.
It's nothing to do.
There's a lot of that out there today.
Snow, Wisconsin.
Fuck it.
Yeah, I think we had at least two feet
of sunshine this morning.
Did you get it all shoveled up?
I went and soaked some of it up for coming on here.
Oh man.
Put that shit in the envelope or box it up
and bring that shit down here up here.
All right, I'll pack a cooler and send it to you.
It is actually, the sun is actually shining today,
which is, I wanted to get that snow cleaned up
otherwise it's gonna be a fucking mess later.
It'll be like slop and yeah.
You remember, right?
Oh yeah.
I remember shoveling my roof a few too many times
and deciding I never needed to do it again.
Yeah, I might have to go back.
I might have to go back and get the edges of the roof
yet because that's where the shit piles up.
Yeah, anyway.
Yeah.
What's new with you in the car world?
Anything new?
I have not been doing too much this week
other than just toying with the truck
driving wise here and there.
But other than that, I haven't been doing too much.
I'm starting to plan for the next truck build
but you know, holiday season.
So I'm kind of taking it easy as far as that.
Yeah.
On my son's truck, the little Toyota.
Sure.
I think that's gonna be cool.
If you're doing to do that, that's center-mount travel
of front suspension, that's pretty fucking awesome.
It's pretty cool stuff.
Yeah, I'm trying to decide the best route for that.
Because I have a bear frame or I have a stock frame,
no suspension on it.
So I'm trying to decide if I'm gonna weld braces too
because I wanna keep the motor mounting location the same
and it's a four cylinder.
So it's not like it takes up a ton of space.
Trying to decide if I weld some braces in
to where the motor mounts are on the frame
and then cut everything else out around it
and then build back to it.
I just brace it up.
I just brace the shit out of it in every direction
and then cut your suspension out and just go from there.
Make sure you have enough room with your braces
that the braces are out of the way enough
and that's all I would do.
Make sure the shit's halfway square
when you're, before you cut it apart,
make a lot of do a lot of measurements that way.
Yeah.
That's the only problem with building not on a nice frame
table or something like that, but it can be done.
Yeah.
So then I gotta.
Yeah.
This frame, I got to work pretty good for shit like that.
I mean, it was ultra cheap at the time.
So it worked out pretty awesome.
And alls I use it for is just jigging cars up
and measuring that's really it.
It has pull towers, but I don't know.
I've never used them.
I have, I can't in my heart seem to get rid of them,
but they also don't work.
So I don't know.
It's like they're like ultra cool
where you could do some cool shit with them,
but also straightened, but I don't really, I don't know.
Hard to get rid of stuff that will like,
it could, it could really work for something really awesome.
Even if you're trying to move some stuff around.
I don't know.
Hard to get rid of, John.
I feel you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm just in my head been planning that out
cause I want to, once we get through Christmas here,
start making moves on that frame.
And then I don't know at what point I start taking parts
off of the other truck,
but I kind of want to leave the other truck running.
So it's as long as I can.
Like I almost want to get this frame ready.
It'd be nice to have a cab and a fender,
a fender mounted up in there,
a fender and maybe a hood just to know positioning.
Right.
But I guess you have those.
Do the, do those trucks have like an outer apron?
It won't when I'm done with it.
Oh, so that's all going to be gone.
So, but you could still at least keep enough of it
to know where you're well.
Yeah. You might want to have fenders on it.
Yeah. It'll be a mount a cab and then you'd line fenders
and then you have to build mounting tabs for fenders
and spacing for hood.
I don't actually know that I'm going to keep the,
I considered doing like a,
like a truggy or a rock crawler style
where they actually cut, clip the hood in
and the fenders actually,
so your grills narrower and everything like that,
just for more clearance and just it'd be aggressive
as it can be, but cause it's not going to be
the most aerodynamic highway vehicle.
I mean, we'll seal it up nice, but I still don't,
and it's obviously going to be able to go on the highway
and go a hundred miles an hour and whatever,
but I don't think this is going to be, you know,
we're going to do road trips in it other than for,
you know, like a fun trip where you'd want to do the truck.
I think this is the vehicle you guys are going to jump.
I, oh, I've also been considering building
a temporary movable jump for the tundra.
Whoa. Yeah. Hell yeah.
We got a huge pile of hardwood pallets at work.
And I'm like, I could, I could make something out of all this.
I seen a rotisserie that like turns into a trailer
on Marketplace a while back.
It was actually really cool.
And I'm like, I have no room, like even,
even now I would have no room for it,
but it's a car rotisserie.
So it turns into a trailer, but like it lays out
and then you drive, you can drive your car up onto it,
and then it spins like that kind of rotisserie,
like a show, like for at a car show.
Oh, okay. Oh man. It's so fucking cool.
It's pretty wild actually.
It was pretty cool.
What's, what's the price?
It was quite the production.
It was like three, three or four grand, something like that.
Like honestly, it was looked kind of homemade-ish.
So who knows how well it worked, but it worked.
It would have been cool.
You need a car spinning around in the shop.
I always thought that'd be, I mean, for the price point,
if you had space, you know, that'd be pretty cocky looking
and somebody's like shop or whatever, you know,
having a car just spinning in the center.
You just have your car on it.
Just, and when you turn the lights on,
the car starts spinning real slowly all day.
Somebody comes, looks in the, you know, peeks in the window
and they're like, what the fuck?
Yeah, car's still spinning.
That'd be cool.
I'm trying to dream up how that would be mechanized,
but for a trailer.
Interesting.
It was, it looked like a little gearbox,
some kind of little gearbox thing that was in it.
I don't know.
I can't remember.
It does.
It was a long time ago.
Yeah, it was pretty funny though.
It was like a little shit box car pulling it.
So it's pretty funny.
Yesterday I saw a beetle, like a 70s beetle pulling a trailer
that was like a little camper trailer
that was shaped like a beetle.
And they were paying nice and stuff like that.
It was pretty, it was pretty cute.
It was like almost like a teardrop,
but it had little fenders on it.
And it was very beetle-esque.
You know what I mean?
Sure, sure, sure.
But it still had to be a camper.
So you know what I mean?
Like it was, you know, didn't have like,
like a hood to windshield line.
Like that was more of a smooth shape and stuff,
but pretty cool.
Is there like weird quirky shit down there?
Is it in comparison to Wisconsin?
Oh yeah.
I see a lot of like weird minis running around,
like mini panel wagons and mini,
like, I don't know, just like different.
I, you know, I'm so used to only seeing like a mini Cooper.
And then you see the, the clubmen and stuff like that
when they're like, but they're an old one.
I see a lot of that.
There's some quirky stuff.
There's a, it's that car that I always see driving around here.
I know it exactly when I see it, but
I don't know.
My, my brain's not working right now, but there's,
there's some cool, there's like an older late forties,
early fifties car I normally see driving around.
I can't think of the name for me for the life of me,
but it starts with a D.
What's a D forties or fifties car?
So it's a DeSoto.
Yeah.
He nailed it.
Yeah.
There's a DeSoto that drives around here all the time.
It's like maroon, but like nice factory car.
Nice.
Is it got the, the teeth, the upright teeth in it?
That'd be like a 53 for somewhere in there.
Um, I don't think it's upright teeth.
I think it's like an oval grill that says DeSoto in it.
Interesting.
Maybe it has some upright teeth and then the DeSoto is in front of it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'll look at it next time I see it.
The, the, those DeSoto teeth are really, I have a set,
not a, not a full set, but almost a full set.
And that's really common for people to put in mercs,
like chop mercs or put the DeSoto teeth in the front.
They use like two sets, fill the whole thing.
They get expensive, ultra expensive.
I had mine on sale for later on sale, on sale.
Fucking dumb dumb on marketplace for,
it was, I had them on there for a year and a half, two years.
As I really didn't want to sell them.
It was like, this is the, I don't want to sell a price.
And it was, I think it was 1500 bucks.
And I had a guy that was pretty like,
like he was fucking me around a little bit.
So that's why I never ended up selling it a year later.
He contacted me.
I really want to buy them now.
I'm like, I'm not even dealing with you.
Like I'm not going to drive to the cities to sell these to you.
And like, then you decide to change your mind again.
No, thanks.
It's got a pretty firm rule that if you're buying, you're driving.
You know what I mean?
Like I don't deliver stuff.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty.
That is a good rule.
I like that rule.
Yeah, it's too much of a, it's too much of a risk
when you have to deliver something.
And then if they decide, oh, you just drove your four hours,
but I'm going to try to be down now.
Oh, I should probably not say that.
I'm going to try to, uh, dicker with you on the price.
And, uh, I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, you know,
this looks a little, this has got a little more pitting than I thought.
So I'm going to pass.
And then you're out, you know, eight hours of driving.
You find that people want to negotiate before they even show up to,
like everything's got to be like set in stone.
And then they want to come.
Like they'll beat you up on the, on the price.
And then they show up and then they'll beat you up even more on the price.
Yep.
It's like, come on guys.
But I don't know, that's like a whole viral thing of just low,
like low balling people.
I think people have like, like YouTube videos of just sitting around low balling
people on people's reaction.
It's like, I think the part of that problem is, is on marketplace.
It seems like people are inflating their prices, expecting negotiate.
So you don't necessarily want to go there and then find out they were serious
on a price.
So you, you want to, you want to feel them out first.
And I think the other part, it does seem like this is fake as hell.
So you don't even know if you're talking to a real person.
Right.
I think the other part of it is big.
It's a lot easier to be a negotiator as on the other side of a keyboard than it
is in person.
No doubt.
Yeah.
Cause when you see somebody in person, like you can tell if they're a negotiate,
like a in person negotiator or not.
Like some people just don't even want to talk.
Like they just want to just give you the money and just get the, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
And you're like, what about this tear in the seat?
Yeah.
Get all weird.
So I got to know, what did you think of that?
Speaking of the price you don't want to sell it for, what did you think of that?
All original, not sell for $5 million gold, Cobra.
Five million for this car right now.
Would you sell it?
Nope.
Wouldn't do it.
And what makes this Cobra unique?
Well, it's one of 31 427 SCs.
And the fact that it's got some of the original gold paint is the holy grail.
This particular car is considered to be the most original Cobra left in existence.
Oh balls, dude.
Like that's fun and all.
That like just sell it to somebody to put it museum, I guess.
Cause if it's, he's not taking $5 million for it.
The dude's probably driving it a little bit.
If he's a cocky guy, but I wouldn't be driving it at all.
Like if it's worth that much money, there's no way.
Like you'd have to be, the background of that house did not look like a guy
that had a $5 million car.
That he would take money for.
I mean, granted, that might not be the place he lives, but I was looking at the dude
and I'm like being a little judgey.
Like dude, you should probably take $5 million for it.
Cause I don't think the economy of Cobras is going to be a forever thing.
I don't think it's about that.
The guy probably doesn't need any money.
And he probably has enough to make it through the rest of his life.
You're right, but it's still like that's just like fucking dumb.
My problem was, okay, it's one of 31 cars, one of even fewer in gold.
It has original paint.
Well, we can tell.
But how is there no Cobras that are more original or nicer than that one?
Like Shelby doesn't have any set aside.
Like there isn't any collectives.
I think so.
I think he was, he was selling cars he didn't have in the early days.
You know, so yeah, I believe there weren't cars.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's, that's just kind of how they ran.
So I, I would believe that to a certain extent, but you would think that there is.
Yeah.
I mean, with up until, you know, 20, like 15 years ago, keeping a car original original
wasn't very cool.
Like the barn find thing only started like 15, 20 years ago to where it actually like
it would retain and hold value even though it looks like shit.
I just feel like there would have always been people that bought the car just to buy
the car and then, and not really use it.
Yeah, but there was a, there was a thought mentality in the, in the market that
when you have a car of that caliber, you make it perfect and then it just stays perfect forever.
Like there was no, there was no, we're going to preserve this.
Like that thing's missing.
Like at least a quarter of the paint and you know, on that car.
That's original.
I mean, but there, I mean, that's, it's, it's never going to be original again.
Right.
So if you fuck it up, you fuck it up.
So I could see that.
I mean, it's a cool, it's a cool.
I'm just not that, I mean, Colras are cool.
I like, I like Colras.
I think they're the shape of them overall is really aesthetically pleasing.
I think they could be tweaked and be better, but I didn't think a $5 million.
That's dude, just take their money.
And I mean, like I said, it's some rich guy.
What are you going to do?
One thing I've seemed to learn over the years is sometimes
a rich guy isn't who you think they are, especially in Florida.
I think that's, I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of money and even in this tone,
as far as like people that have paying jobs that pay way, way more than anybody would think.
People just, they're really, especially around here.
I'm sure Florida is very similar.
Just don't have the, they don't walk around in Gucci, you know, they're still wearing car heart.
Yeah.
They don't have the gold chains there.
How many gold chains do you see in a regular weekday?
Um, not as much as Florida.
I know.
I think you have to get that when you get your license.
I think that's what that is in Florida, right?
In Florida, I think with the license, no, no.
I think you, I think you at five years, they, the state sends you a gold chain.
I'm pretty sure after five and then every five years it gets bigger.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then it depends on how much chest here you have to though, right?
Yeah.
If you have deep chest here, you got to have a bigger one.
Yeah, it's got to, I believe the, the term I've heard is it has to be nestled in your
chest sweater, like Conway Twitty.
Gross.
That's about gold chains.
Chains, pure gold chain is a, to me, a gold chain is a used car salesman.
So what's up with the 58 behind you today?
Well, not today, but this next week, I'll be getting going on it for sure.
Gonna get the box set up on, I get the radiator in it, get it, get, basically get the,
the, go down the priority list that me and the customers and, and else came up with,
just to start knocking some of the problems out or figuring out solutions to problems
in the first week or so.
I think we're just going to take it a step at a time.
And sometimes it's creating a list that doesn't overwhelm the customer and me at the same time.
Just, you know, baby steps into these things because it's a lot, there's a lot to consume.
They don't have, you know, all of the parts for the vehicle, which is
probably a good thing at this point.
So we can be a little more picky, choosy on stuff that's going to fit inside the cabin,
as far as like HVAC stuff.
And I mean, even the hood hinges, they, on this, on this cab, I don't know, it's a
premier cab.
And I think they have really good specs as far as like what, what was on original and to the,
to their cab, but where the hood hinges mount, they have aftermarket hood hinges.
So they're aluminum and they're, you know, they're kind of like ring brother hinges.
They're really fancy and they set the hood back down in the same spot every time.
I can't remember what brand they are.
But now they're all pushed out a little too far to where they're actually touching
the inside of the fender.
So it's like just really general, weird problems, because we got the hood fitting
pretty decent.
And then we're, and then we're like, Oh, hey, look at that.
This is why we had it at, I was helping them at their shop.
It's like, Jesus, what are the, what's the next problem going to be?
It's like, now we can't even fit up the inner wheel well, because
well, we got to deal with this problem first, you know, there's just a lot of general,
really general, weird things that you got to work through that.
If you're not doing it right the first time, you're going to screw yourself down the road.
And it's just, you know, dealing with it first, instead of dealing with it in the end,
trying to figure out what the hell we're going to do then.
I've met people that you just want to, we'll just cut a recess and stuff.
Like, like on that Mustang, the guy took over for, he wanted, for the exhaust,
instead of having the exhaust made the right way, you just wanted to cut the frame,
cut the brand new Art Morrison chassis and to clearance his headers that he had made.
It's like, dude, that's not the way cars are built.
Like, not ideally.
Yeah. Yeah, not ideal.
Yeah. What are you going to do?
I did have, this last night, I had that Ryan from Count's Customs, that a painter,
the head painter guy, he like, followed me on Instagram and started clicking like on all my,
all my shit.
And I was like, oh, that's pretty neat.
Somebody that's, you know, been in the industry a long time and obviously pretty recognizable
to a lot of the people in the automotive industry.
Pretty neat.
Yeah, that's cool.
Hmm.
I didn't have anybody that big, but I got a comment today on a, on my truck YouTube video
from a guy I've been following for like three years.
So I mean, it's cool.
It's cool.
Anytime like this stuff starts to like, you start to feel like you're in the arena.
You know what I mean?
That's kind of like, I saw it at like two o'clock in the morning.
I'm like, I should have looked at my phone or something.
Then my head's spinning, you know, like that's pretty cool.
Like in the end, it's just, you know, people liking your social media page and everybody's
social media pages, they're, you know, bright, shiny version of them.
But, you know, it is still really fucking cool.
You know, somebody in the industry that's been there a long time and as if not that
being on TV is my goal, but, you know, being that recognizable in the automotive industry
is pretty cool.
I mean, it doesn't hurt.
You know, for sure.
I just want everybody on here to know that I am 98% bright and shiny.
It's not just social media.
Oh, wow.
It's all the extra vitamin.
Bright and shiny.
As long as I don't have to clean up snow, you know, that's usually,
yeah, that's the shitty part.
Well, it was kind of fucking snow.
Every time I see an old car driving around, I just keep thinking of you or like a C8.
Yep.
Yeah.
This morning I'm driving to the shop and I'm like, you know, there's people still shoveling,
people snow blowing, you know, all of you here in the neighborhoods, just snow blowers and stuff.
When I came here, there's a loader outside across the street, you know, making all kinds
of noise and they just got done plowing here.
Why do we do this?
They drive, drive around the corner from my neighbors and there's like fucking yard is just
like the dirt's all blown up.
Like we do this every year.
Everybody's redoing their shit every year.
Why do we live here?
Because I was born here, I guess.
I wouldn't trade it for anything.
The experience I got.
I think everybody should live in the snow for a while.
Just appreciate not living in the snow.
So, you know, this, this ties into work ethic and, and the industry and blue collar stuff and
how we're, we're lacking people and I think it's
um, living in the, in temperate areas where you get real snow gives you a different work ethic
that you don't even realize you have because I worked in a full shift before you go to work.
I worked four a.m. to two p.m. for seven years there, um, the last seven years before I moved.
And so I had to be up at three, three thirty to go to work.
Well, if it snowed, I would have to clear enough snow for my truck and my wife's car to get out
and clear my wife's car before I left to work.
So you could count on half an hour to an hour of snow physical labor in the dark
at three to four in the morning cleaning snow up before working my 10 hour minimum shift.
And then when I get home, I would have to finish cleaning the snow up and do any
preparation salting or whatever for the following snowfall as well as, you know,
long term planning, like cleaning the roof and things like that and making sure that
your vehicles have block heaters plugged in if need be or whatever.
And I think that, that, um, that, that work that you're doing when you don't,
you don't have a choice to do it and you don't even think about it.
I think that goes a long way until you just understanding you can do a lot more than you
want to do it because we all want to, I watched like four episodes of Samurai show this morning
on Netflix. Okay. And it was pretty comfy on the couch. Okay. We all want to be comfy, but
we also have to do a lot of work. And, um, so like when I go out to work on my truck on a
weekend or whatever, I can go out an hour without even thinking about it, get more work than most
people do on their personal vehicles done in a month because, you know, I like the physical
output isn't even like, uh, it doesn't even hit the register most of the time anymore.
Anyway, you know, I just, you're just, okay, I have to that I have to do. And so you just go
out there and you just start going and then the next thing you know, the driveway is clear or,
you know what I mean? You got your engine torn apart or whatever.
I think there's something to be said about not overdoing it though, because I've been,
I bet it was pushed in my brain ever since I've been a kid that like basically what's your excuse,
you know, like you're a well-abled bodied human and just go out there and fucking do it, right?
What like, what's your excuse in comparison to anybody else? Just go out there and get it done.
And then, you know, your back starts to hurt and you're like ignoring it. Your neck starts to hurt
ignore it and you just keep working and working and working. And then now you're in a position
where I'm in and you're trying to figure out, you went up a t-shirt size and now your everything
hurts. That's literally my position last couple of years. Like I went up a t-shirt size. I can't
wear mediums anymore because my shoulders and my arms got bigger from working. But I mean,
yeah, it's all cool, but if you can't move your arms at the end of the day, what the fuck's the
sense of doing it? So now it's like trying to have my body relearn where everything's supposed to be
and, you know, shoulders work and everything. It's getting better, but don't overdo it, kids. It sucks.
There's a fine line of doing work and there's an overdoing your capability physically.
Yeah, not valuing a rest can fuck you up.
Plus, once you hit your thirties, you can't just go ham on something. I know they say that you
never see a lion stretch before it chases a gazelle, but the lion's probably not 35 to 40 years old.
And when those guys stop moving, they just stop moving. Yeah, they just they just they just feast
and take a nap. Yeah. Yeah. And they live to be like, I don't know. I mean, the goal is to live
as long as possible, really, for humans. I mean, but for the majority of people. So what does that
look like? You know, you have to make sure that's why I bought a power hammer. Like it's not like
my wife was seeing even like just hammering out a few welds with your with your shoulder,
you know, with a hammer and a dolly, you can fuck yourself up really fast, trying to just work on
a panel that I can get done in five minutes on a power hammer. And yet I could got paid to do it
by hand, but I can do it faster and better with a power hammer. And I can do it longer,
literally longer, my lifetime longer, because I'm not being so hard on my body.
And with efficiency comes, you can raise the rates too. So I mean, yeah, there is that, you
know, it's not really a downfall. If you're if you're charging somebody a half an hour on power
hammer time, and it does four hours of hand powering time, you know what I mean, you can
charge a more premium rate and then, you know, in a way scale your time better. Yeah.
That and to me, it was I had a few conversations with people, it's like, you know, you just return
the ROI, you know, their return on investment, it's just not there. It's like, I do understand
that portion of it, but it's also, you're never going to take on a job to
that would you're never going to take on a job that would require a power hammer if you don't
have a power hammer. You know, it's that unless you're an insane person, you know, that's that
it's I don't think that being said, I took on this Mustang that month that 66 Mustang,
I didn't have too much for tools to be honest that I was very naive when I took that job on.
I in my eyes, I think there are people who probably say differently, but it's
once as soon as we started getting into it, it was one thing and then they started asking
for more metalwork and it was like, I thought I was in over my head pretty quickly, but
everybody I was talking to is like, no, you're, you're doing good. You're doing what I would do.
And it's like, well, shit, this is, you know, learning it by yourself is one thing. You know,
you're getting tips, tips and tricks from people online and some, some buddies of mine and stuff
like that. But they're not, if they're not in front of you showing you, it's pretty hard.
Right. You got to get pretty creative.
Sometimes the best lessons are learned the hardest way though.
Yeah. I think we talked about that before, you know, you're not going to,
you learn lessons the hard way pretty much. And that's a hard thing for, like,
I think the youth to get over is a lot of it's going to suck because a lot of it does suck.
I think it was hard for us too. I think, to be honest, up until,
you know, it's, this isn't a rag on any of my past previous employers, but I've always felt
like the shit head in the shop. I've always felt like the young kid that never really got any
respect from anybody. Aside from the last place I worked, I was a manager there. You know, I felt
like that was a good situation that I just didn't, I didn't really want to be a manager of people
anymore and manage a collision shop. So, but anyways, yeah, it's just always felt like the,
like the kid that's working in the corner that's like, yeah, yeah, he thinks he fucking knows,
you know, but to be honest, I was also that guy looking at another kid in the corner being like,
or the older guys in the corner, like, look at these old heads, they don't know what the hell
they're doing, you know. I remember working at a body shop one time and I was feeling, you know,
they made sure to put, keep the thumb on me. So I felt like I was the kid in the corner.
And one day a guy came up to me and he goes, hey, hey, Ethan, if you don't know what you're doing,
why are the guys that have been doing it for 40 years coming to asking you for your advice? And I
went, I went, yeah, Quentin, that is a good point. Was that me for real? No shit. Yep.
You're a smart ass. He didn't realize he was, he had such sage advice.
I don't know. To me, I always, I always felt kinship with the younger people, not saying you
were, I mean, you're not very much younger at all. I feel like we're pretty much the same age, but
anybody that was like around my age or younger, it didn't seem like any, they were, we were all
on the same boat. Like everybody was like, it was like the old guys versus the new guys. And I don't
know why it's always been like that in every shop I've ever been at, but it's always the,
it's either the guy in the corner, the old dude in the corner saying,
well, I've been doing it this way for 20 years. That's, it never failed me yet. I was like, well,
you know, paints changed like three times since then. We don't spray single stage anymore.
Got 18 coats of hand rub lacquer.
Oh my God. It's like, well, yeah, that's going to be the best hand rub, hand rub.
Oh my God. It's a cool sounding.
I mean, hand rubbed.
It just sounds like a version of a portion of the internet that we don't want to click on.
Yeah. I'm not Google image searching hand rub lacquer. I can tell you that.
Have AI make a, like just type that in and see what it would even come up with. That'd be hilarious.
Probably wouldn't be hilarious. I'm not sure.
My AI assistant wouldn't, wouldn't, wouldn't know exactly what it is. Lots of training.
Hmm. Nice. Nice. Oh yeah.
I can't wait to get my AI guy in a, in a robot body and have him, you know,
fetching me the 10 mil because my kid's too cool to do it.
It's going to happen. It's going to happen. I promise you.
I'm going to be like 3D print me a 10 mil socket and they'll be like,
and they'll just hand me another one and they'll drop that down the engine bay and they'll go
and another one and they'll drop that down the engine bay.
Right. Just like a nonstop supply, a whole backpack of 10 mils.
Yeah. They just, they just 3D print them right when you ask for them.
This board saying we're running out of technicians and Tesla selling or
there's somebody selling robots for 20 grand. I mean,
it's cheaper than their health insurance any year for some people. It's crazy.
I mean, it's going to, there's no way it's not going to be somehow implemented in the automotive
industry more. It's going to have to be. It's going to happen. Like oil changes that can be
done by a robot. There's no reason a oil change can't rack up a car, lift it up in the air,
let the fluid out of it and put more fluid in it. I mean, granted,
it makes a mistake. It would be an expensive one, but I've also seen
human technicians take a car out on the road without the drain plug in it and go down the
fucking road. Oh yeah. They happen all the time. So you can't tell me that the robot's going to be
better at it than some kid changing oil. They'll get the right amount in and they'll remember
all the steps because it's programming because sometimes human programming is not that good.
Especially when it's just like that kind of work, like the repetitive,
repetitiveness of oil changes and stuff. You're usually trying to find cheaper labor
because it is a limited market unless you're going to some dealership where it's like a $300
for an oil change. But even then, they're still using the cheapest technician to do said job.
Right. That's where you, that's where you take your, your hazing is in their lube tech section.
And then if you can make it out of there, you level up.
Yep. Yeah. Just like being a prepper in the body shop. I never did that.
Everywhere I ever worked was start to finish body shops. So I didn't have like a prep. Yeah.
Sure. Yeah. The shop in Eau Claire I worked at was a, I was the prepper. Basically,
we got stuff down in body filler. We have to add up the primate, prep it and prep all the panels
and mask it for the painter. So it was, I mean, dude, tight. If it wasn't tight, that guy would
fucking come by and rip it all off. Yeah. For real. He walked by and he's like, I, he walked by,
there's like, we had our rounds. I mean, I would still, the guy's awesome. He taught me a lot,
like how to, how to tape something fast and efficient and the right way. First time, like,
if you see this transition, you're doing this, you see this transition, you're doing this. And
the dude was never around. He always had it banged out. We would do like,
like probably three or four cars a day, like two to four cars a day, depending on the size of the
job and stuff like that. But when you're working together with a prepper and a painter, you can
bang some stuff out. For real. But you got to have, you got to have all the implemented people
doing all the, all the jobs appropriately. And it was always something on the, the two, the two,
the two repairers, I guess, it was always a fight. You know, the guy was like, do a swipe
a filler and leave it in 80. And then he would take combi putty, combi putty, the whole fucking
thing, sand the combi out in 180 and then send it down to me. It's like, I'm supposed to put
a urethane primer on this. You just, you just filled this with a one K putty dude. Like, what the
hell? He would use a window, we'd use window primer for like the edges of like corrosion.
Like he would just like clean up a little bit of corrosion that like a rounder repair. Like,
if there's something that was corroded that needed to be fixed, he would just like wheel it and then
put window your, it's like not window urethane, but like the window, window primer go down before
you put urethane down. And that there is absolutely, like we talked to the tech, the high ups in the
paint world, like they're like, nothing sticks to this stuff. Like you guys should not be using it.
Like nothing but urethane sticks to this. Yeah, urethane sticks to it. And that's it. Yeah. Yeah.
So that's pretty cool. What are you going to do? There's always, there's all, even you go on the
auto body technician, there's like a bunch of different sites on Facebook and stuff that
where people like swap ideas and stuff like that. And there's always tension between,
because there is an auto in the, if you look in the repair for, you know, the collision repair,
it's going to be repair, there's going to be, it's going to be caught up
as far as what the repair is and then refinished chime and all that stuff. So that's how, kind
of how they break it up in the shop, but it depends on shop to shop on how, who takes care of what.
Do the, does the repair, that's where we were talking last time about this feather block in
prime and like the primer isn't, isn't included. So like whose responsibility is it to prime it
and then prep it for paint? Is it the refinisher or is it the repairer? Because if it's not in
coded appropriately in the estimate, nobody's going to like, that's the fight.
So it's just like, creates a lot of tension, especially because the people up front just
want the car done, you know, they don't care. Everybody knows how to do it, just do it, you know.
My issue I've had with when I'm around any type of production place is even where I work now,
which isn't body work, but similar, is when you have people who only have to do a certain step
of the job and they don't have to, and say they don't have to do a repair or make, fix anything
that has to do with their job or whatever, if they don't have to actually take care of a problem
and it goes on to the next step, they're never going to improve. You know what I mean? Obviously,
if you're getting paid flat rate and things like that, but you just run into a lot of issues like
where the bodyguides are putting combi putty on it because they're trying to get their hours,
they're trying to move this thing up. And that's what that's the issue. Everybody's trying to move
it up and out of their space. And then they say they're done with it. But you know, if you were
start to finish up, which may be slightly less efficient, you unfortunately have to deal with
every step of it. So you're not going to screw yourself one step and going into the next. So
it's hard. There's like a give and take with it. You know, do you want to give up production for
the possibility quality? And there's a, in the collision world, there's also like,
you know, the majority of shops in big cities, I don't think they're hourly. I don't know,
I don't know about the chain ones, but the place I was at was hourly. So there was no real incentive
for him to do, aside from making, you know, the people up front happy because the vehicle got
moved through faster, but they're also ultimately not going to be happy when you do a shady repair
and it comes back. So like, what, what are you doing? Like you're not, you're not helping anybody,
you're just creating problems by doing things the wrong way. There was always a problem with that
guy. I can tell you what combi putty is going to look like on a black paint job after a month in the
sun. You know, there's a spot, there's a, there's a time and a place for combi putty,
definitely. I can, there is a place, you know, there, but it's not, it should have, it should
never be touching body filler. That's for God damn sure. There's a spot for a very small amount,
combi putties for very, it's called spot putty. Yeah, not, I've never used anything but pin holes.
Yeah. And that's for stuff where you're like, you're cleaning it up and you're like, oh,
shit, there is a pin hole there. Yep. Yeah. So I've been thinking about doing some airbrush
stuff we were talking about. Where, what do you think the, what do you think the land of airbrush
looks like these days? Like, remember back back, I remember back in the day, and one of the things
that I'm good at that seems like it's, it's a, not many people do it is the old classy
Mike LaValle true fire. Remember the true fire came out and that was like the hottest thing out there.
What, what, and then, you know, obviously there was like the nineties and like the mini truck
times with all the scallops and the layering and the, you know, all that cool stuff. What do you
think, what do you think airbrushing of 2026 looks like?
I don't know. I know there's, there's a lot of people still doing it. I think there's, I don't
think there's a large, super, super large market. When I was, I think there was, it was only about
10 years ago and they still had airbrush classes around here. They're trying to go around to body
shops, you know, just to try and start, I think it was just somebody coming around doing like a
couple of classes together. I think they're, you would find people that would probably want to do
it, but I think there's going to be less people now than there would be 10 years ago, you know,
just because there's lack of technicians unless there's, unless there's people that would be
not like non-automotive potentially, and that would be, I don't know how you would get into that
or what that even looks like if not necessarily not, not automotive, but there would be, I think
there's a market for people that wouldn't be in the automotive field to do that or learn that.
I don't know. I think there would be, I think there's value in it. You know, I think,
obviously before I'd be digging in real deep, I'd be making sure there's not like
50 other people out there doing the exact same thing, but I'm sure there's some people doing
some kind of tutorials or something like that, you know. Yeah, for what I'm going to do, I'm not
really concerned too much about, I shouldn't say I'm not too concerned about demand, but I'm not too
worried about competition, or I guess I'm just looking at it as, you know, one more, one more
thing in the portfolio, not necessarily like this is the thing that I want to do a lot.
More so, I just kind of want to start passing, showcasing and passing along
skills to people because, you know, we're kind of the stewards of the next generation of people
doing stuff. So, you know, just like you talked about showing how to properly repair a dent in
metal, I'm kind of thinking of it in that same way. So even let's say I do some courses, you know,
I do some things like that, and then I could do specific ones, but because I'm going to tell you
a secret, Harleys are always going to need flames and skulls. It's never going away, ever.
My paint rep, I thought, I thought custom motorcycle stuff was dying, and he's like,
I could say busy all day doing it. I'm like, you're kidding me. Where are these people? I don't
even know where they are. I'm in central Wisconsin. There's a custom motorcycle paint
demand. I was like, I don't know where it is, but there's still people do it. Like,
you're not wrong. Sorry. Go ahead. Oh, I used to airbrush Harleys.
Yeah. Hell yeah. I just, I mean, they need to be fixed too. Some of the fixing them is harder.
Yeah, I just, sometimes you meet people in certain clubs that we won't mention and they
need some paint jobs on their stuff to let everybody know that they're a badass and you say,
hell yeah, let's do it. And the next thing you know, you're airbrushing, just like you, you don't,
you don't know if you're over your head on the sheet metal work. Sometimes I agreed to airbrush
jobs that I was like, I have no idea if I can even do this. But yeah, sometimes, without like a little
fear in you and like having to do something, not having to do something because of your
consequence, but just like without a little bit. Yeah, you got to, you got to just kind of go for
it. Sometimes like, well, I have to do this. So let's get it done. And yeah, yeah, you know,
obviously like, what's the word I'm looking for? Not photo realism, but illustrative realism is a
hard thing to do. I think that's what my tattoo artists used to say. My style was illustrative
realism. It's like, things are real, but you know, it's like art, art, artistified, artistified.
Yeah, it's not stylized realism to a certain extent.
Right, right. Yeah, I think that's good. But I just kind of want to,
I see, I get so many people that comment on stuff and, you know, kids that I'll hire at places and
they all want to learn stuff. And it's like, how do you, I'm not saying I'm going to teach a welding
course. I may offer some sort of beginner welding thing for free or something at some point, or
it's just like a bunch of videos put together on how to start up with your 110 meg welder or whatever,
you know, just to get people going because sometimes the hardest part is just, you know,
feeling like you have enough information to start because no matter what, you're always
going to have to suffer through something the hard way. I mean, cars are hard. I mean,
they're hard. I mean, they are, there's the systems on them, there's plumbing, there's electrical,
there's metal, there's fiberglass, there's aluminum, there's bonding and riveting, there's,
you know, there's all kinds of, it's very, very vast. Like, to know it all is like, there's
very few, very few builders actually do all of it all the way through. And if you're bragging
about doing it all the way through, that's great. And you can do it. That's fucking cool, man. I
can't do that. I can't do all of it. No way. I wouldn't say that doing all of it yourself is
always the smart way. It may be a safe way. Just because you don't sometimes it's not,
if you don't have knowledge of doing things safely, you're not going to make something safe. And
ultimately, number one, everything's got to be safe first. So if you're not, if, if the car isn't
safe first, everything else is in, is, doesn't matter. It's, it doesn't matter at all. It'll
look cool. And if it's, if it's safe, it's art. That's all it is. Yeah, I mean, more so on,
on the aspect of like, if you can't find somebody to do your, if you know how to do the plumbing,
but it would be more efficient to sub it out, but you can't find somebody you can trust to sub
it out to, then it might be the safe choice to do it yourself, but not the, not the fast choice
or the, you know what I mean? That's literally the position I'm in in central Wisconsin.
Right. So I'm not saying like, just do things yourself because it's better that way. I'm not
saying that at all. I'm just saying sometimes if you can't find a resource, you know, to do all
your whole wiring harness for you and set it all up, that maybe if you have the knowledge to do it,
maybe you just have to do that sometimes. But well, and there's, there's legit shops out. Well,
I shouldn't say legit shops, but there are shops out there that claim they know how to do things
the right way and safe. And I, there's a car in here right now that I just had the customer
stopped us last week and we're still trying to figure out what in the hell the first shop
started to do. Like the route they were going down, don't even understand what kind of a car
they were supposed to be ending up with. So it's just really, really frustrating. Some people are
just shooting from the hip out there and there's open. What's up? Some people are just shooting
from the hip. Well, some people have built a circle track car once in their life and they
think they can build street cars. It don't work like that. It's got nowhere to put the lead weights.
Wait, where does the, that's so funny. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yep. Oh, what was I gonna
have to do about it? I had a whole thing. Oh, I found a aluminum cobra body online.
Not to go back to aluminum cobra bodies, but there's aluminum cobra body online in two pieces for
$45,000. Crazy. It's like an actual cobra or a re-man. It's somebody made it. Yeah. Okay. And
it was painted at one point. So it's a bodyworked, an aftermarket aluminum cobra body, already been
bodyworked, installed on a vehicle, cut off of said vehicle, hanging on a wall, $45,000.
Why? Oh, does that price? Why? It's exactly right. Just to me.
It is outrageous. It's okay. I'm glad I'm tracking that because to me I'm like 45,000.
But if you go, if you go to the few places that actually offer cobra bodies on like
finished cobra bodies, cars or cobra bodies in general, the price jumped from a fiberglass to
a cobra or their aluminum body is like 60 grand or something. It's like a lot.
Yeah. But also putting two halves of a car back together isn't the most fun.
It's just a rocker seam. Oh, I didn't know how it was split.
Yeah. It's just a rocker seam. So it would just be putting the rocker back together,
welding it together. But if a guy had a fiberglass car and wanted to put an aluminum body on it,
that would be like a ticket. But I don't think 40 grand is pretty great. But anyway,
I think I got a bunch of Bailey stuff for sale, power hammer, pneumatic power hammer.
I don't think they make that anymore. And then an English wheel too.
Some place in Wisconsin must be selling all stuff.
So are you picking up that body next week?
Fuck, no way.
Just just offer them 20.
Just do the no, I was actually looking low ball.
I was actually looking up sound stupid, but LS conversions in porches,
like the Porsche LS conversion kits, just to see what that all like what you get
and what you need to basically, I want to try and find a transaxle and an LS and just get
something mocked. Like I just want to get the two together and get something figured out as far as
like a mid engine, something really on the mid engine train, not getting off of it. There's no
way. Like I just I keep thinking about, well, it'd be cool to just have a have a car to drive.
And I was like, I'd still, it's still in the back of my head. I'm not, it's not, it's not leaving.
But I'm still not like not bone set. Like it's got to be this body and it's got to be shaped like
this. It's just, I really just need to get the platform set out to where I can do some measuring
so I can figure out if I'm shopping for shopping for a body, but I can be like, yes, this is going
to fit, you know, it's going to fit under the back window or, you know, it'll fit with modifications
here and this, you know, just, I'd like to get this just the bones of it, but we'll see.
They can get a transaxle for like, you can get a used one for like a couple grand, you know,
a rebuilt one for four or five grand. So it's not really that bad. And then some of the,
I have no idea. It's got like a G 50 and a G 90 because they're called, I don't know.
I'm not really like that. I just started digging as far as like what,
there's different kinds of transactions that work as well, but just trying to dig into just
generally get some general information and knowledge about some of it, just so if I'm
asking questions to some people, I don't sound like a total moron. But in that kit for that Porsche,
it was they had a cable shift, cable operated shifting mechanism for like a six speed.
It's pretty cool. It was like you can mount it wherever and it's just a, you know,
it's all cable operators. Fucking that is neat. Like that's a really cool, like to know that
that's even an option. Well, like the, with any transaxle card, they got to have linkage going
up there somehow. So that's got to be how the majority of the, you know, manual transmission
mid-engine cars would work, right? It's cable driven or heads or something like that.
Even Honda Civics run a cable, like newer Honda Civics run a cable shifter. So you can mount them
wherever. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Like the old ones, like my 90s one is a, it's a push rod,
like it's two rods for the shifter, but they went to cable in like the early 2000s.
Interesting. So that's pretty cool. I never realized that was like that one.
Yeah, sure. Right. That's pretty neat. There was a, a 01 Porsche with a LS in it for 40 grand.
I thought that was, he was like firm on the price. It was like, that's pretty cool.
That'd be pretty fun. A lot of fun. That'd be pretty fun. A lot of fun.
Yeah. I don't know. Never getting off the mid-engine thing. It's going to happen sooner or later,
but it'd be cool to just, for me, I always want to go balls deep and try and get something like
thrown together. And then, you know, there's all, all kinds of problems that take longer than,
than needed. I don't know. I just don't want to have something half thrown together. So I'm just
trying to be like, if I can get pieces of it and like be a little more prepared as far as
knowing what I want instead of getting a car and then reacting as far as like,
oh no, this isn't going to fit now or now I got to do this. Sometimes when you see an engine
transmission or any sort of a drivetrain things sticking out of the body panels,
I mean, unless it like really looks cool, it's not my gig. So I don't know. You know what I'm
saying? Like, you know, like doing a mid-engine and you're like, all of a sudden there's like,
just a big hole in the back and there's a part of an engine sticking out. Like, you don't want to
have that. So that's where I'm like, you try. I do want to get like the geometry of everything.
To be honest, I think if the, I think the engines face in the rear, like,
see that's how naive I am to some of this stuff. I want a rear face where the engines
obviously facing backwards. And if you got the stick with me, the crank mounted pro charger
off the back of that, where you could like see it from the back of the vehicle,
that would be fucking cool. I think that'd be really cool.
All right. I don't want to break your heart here.
If the engines face forward, don't they? If the engine's facing rearward,
that's a rear engine car. Like an early Porsche where the engine points to the back or a Volkswagen,
that's a rear engine. If the engine is like a, where the back of the trans axle is to the back
of the car, the engine is in front of it. I guess I never really, yes. Yeah. I didn't even know that.
So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not mid engine. If your engine's facing rearward, because that would
be behind the axle then. And then that's a rear engine. It's a model. It's in back of me, dude.
If it's behind you. Well, I think it's face the rear, I think they would be considered rear
because all the accessories are in the back. They put a pro charge on it. It's in the back
of the motor. They cut the trunk out in the, in the, like, behind the motor. There's a trunk.
They cut the trunk out to access more room for accessories like stuff on the, on the motor.
They must be like a V drive type weird setup on that. If they've got the engine backwards, but it's still
I've never looked at the C8.
Yeah. I don't know. I've seen. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I know. I mean, that'd be cool too, but
I'm just saying that that's an engine generally, like the bell housing is, right, right, right is,
is close to the axle, like the differential itself and then the engines in front of the
differential and then everything's behind it. Definitely not opposed to either,
either way, but I guess mid-engine's going to be easier to stuff in an older car that isn't meant
for one. We were really considering my son decided to make the decision because we had my
side-by-side chassis that I was looking at putting a, I was looking to maintain the front
suspension. I was going to put my kid's Toyota truck cab on it and then I was going to put a
Volkswagen, a built Volkswagen transmission in it with a V8 sticking out the back and then it
would have been a wheelie machine, like a, like a sand rail type setup, like a true rear engine
because all the, all the weights in the back, you can just go, whoa. But he decided he'd
rather be able to drive it regularly too. So we went with the whole front engine center mount
type setup. So we bought different frame instead of going the, the rear engine route. But yeah,
that's what we were looking at doing is just getting a, you can get like a built Volkswagen
tranny and then they make kits to bolt just about anything to it. And then you can have a rear
engine buggy. A lot of fun. Yeah. Sounds awesome. Sounds like all the fun. Can you imagine me
13 and having decided before, between a wheelies and it's hard to say at 13. I wanted a
gold cart and I had a lawn tractor. No joke. Well, rode around the yard and fucking my highly
modified lawn tractor that I got from the neighbor for $30. Going in reverse and then, and then jam
it and forwards. Oh yeah, dude. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We were all there. You see there's like,
to the videos, there's like, they're like lawn tractors. They have people like make them go
off road and they do like these overlanding trips and shit. That's pretty nuts. It's a whole thing.
It honestly like, maybe want to get a freaking lawn tractor and do it again, but I don't have
anywhere to go. But they like, you know, they gear them up. So they actually go, there's like,
people with trailers and like tents and they're going camping and they're like
fucking going on trips and shit. It looks like so much fun. Oh my God.
Wow. Looks like a lot of fun. What will they think of next?
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a whole new door. Fuck it. It's military grade though.
Well, military has all sorts of standards up and down. Everybody, I know that was in the
military. I'm not right. Military grade doesn't mean much.
Man, you're making me want a beer already. I need caffeine and water. Luckily, they're together.
Taffy and Joe, coffee, water, Joe.
Snowpocalypse, dude. Yeah, that's disgusting.
Gross. I did have to wear pants yesterday. Oh, you poor bastard.
Do we want to do an intro thing?
About this episode
Exploring the quirks of automotive innovation, this episode dives into the use of aluminum in vehicles, particularly military-grade materials, and the challenges faced in modern manufacturing. The hosts share personal anecdotes about welding, project builds, and the struggles of working with aluminum components. They also debate the merits of high-end cars like the Ford Mustang GTD and discuss the evolving landscape of car repairs and restorations, touching on the importance of maintaining quality in a fast-paced industry. The conversation is both humorous and insightful, making it a relatable listen for anyone in the automotive field.
Original notes
Welcome back to the F_cking Cars Podcast, where Ethan and Quintin dive deep into the builds, breakdowns, and bullshit that shape real shop life. Every week we tackle the projects on our lifts, the chaos happening in the automotive world, and the stories that only come from long nights in the garage. From custom fabrication to wild engine swaps, questionable Craigslist finds, and the philosophy behind why we keep doing this to ourselves—nothing is off-limits.
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