Moron Nation Unfiltered Dec 23, 2025

Moron Nation Unfiltered Episode 2: Promods, PRI, and NHRA!

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Car

Rolls-Royce Phantom

The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a very fancy car that costs a lot of money and is known for being super comfortable and stylish. People often talk about it because it’s one of the most luxurious cars you can buy.

Company

Parker Speed Shop

Parker Speed Shop is a business that makes special parts for cars, especially those that go fast. They create things like turbo flanges, which help attach turbochargers to engines.

Part

turbo flanges

Turbo flanges are parts that help attach turbochargers to car engines. They make sure everything fits together tightly so the turbo can work properly.

Part

billet flanges

Billet flanges are strong metal pieces made from solid blocks of material. They help connect different parts of a car, like the turbo and exhaust, making sure everything fits together well.

Part

chassis brackets

Chassis brackets are metal pieces that help hold different parts of a car's frame together. They make sure everything stays in place and works properly, especially when driving fast.

Term

turbo kit

A turbo kit helps your car's engine get more power by using a turbocharger, which pushes extra air into the engine. This makes the engine more powerful than without it.

Term

boost reference line

The boost reference line helps the engine computer know how much air is being forced into the engine. This information is important for making sure the engine runs smoothly and efficiently.

Term

ECU

The ECU is like the brain of the car's engine. It helps control how much fuel goes in and when the engine should fire, making sure everything runs well.

Part

pistons

Pistons are parts inside an engine that help create power by moving up and down. If they get damaged, the engine can have serious problems.

Part

rod

A rod in an engine connects the piston to another part called the crankshaft. If it bends, it can cause big problems for the engine.

Part

crank

The crank is a part of the engine that helps turn the energy from the pistons into movement. It's important for making the car run properly.

Company

Turbosmart

Turbosmart makes parts for cars that use turbochargers, which help engines produce more power. They focus on improving how these parts work together.

Term

oil pressure

Oil pressure tells us how well the oil is flowing in the engine. Good oil pressure means the engine parts are getting the lubrication they need to work properly.

Term

turbo seals

Turbo seals help keep oil inside the turbocharger, so it doesn't leak out where it shouldn't. If they fail, it can cause problems like smoke from the exhaust.

Term

whole shot

A whole shot is when a driver gets a quick start at the beginning of a race, helping them get ahead of the competition right away.

Company

Proline

Proline makes parts for cars that help them go faster and perform better, especially in racing. They are a trusted brand among car enthusiasts.

Term

60 foot

The '60 foot' is how long it takes a car to go the first 60 feet in a race. It's important because it shows how quickly the car can start moving.

Term

9-0

'9-0' is a time measurement in drag racing, meaning the car completes a quarter mile in 9.0 seconds. It's a benchmark for very fast cars.

Term

turbo car

A 'turbo car' has a special part called a turbocharger that helps the engine produce more power. This makes the car faster and improves its performance.

Car

Volvo 940S

The Volvo 940 is a sturdy car that was made in the 1990s and is known for being safe and reliable. Many people like it because it lasts a long time and is good for everyday driving.

Term

PDRA Pro Blues Championship

The PDRA Pro Blues Championship is a racing event where professional drivers race their cars in a straight line to see who is the fastest. It's part of the drag racing sport, which is all about speed and quick acceleration.

Car

Ford Mustang

The Ford Mustang is a popular sports car that many people love for its speed and cool design. It has been around since the 1960s and is often seen as a classic American car, which is why people talk about it a lot.

Term

trans brake

A trans brake helps cars with automatic transmissions get ready to go fast by locking the wheels so the engine can rev up without moving. This makes it easier to do things like burnouts before a race.

Term

line lock

A line lock is a tool that helps a car do burnouts by locking the front brakes so the back wheels can spin without stopping the car.

Term

burnout

A burnout is when a car's tires spin while the car is not moving, making smoke and noise. It's usually done for fun or to show off the car's power.

Part

single piston caliper

A single piston caliper is a part of the braking system that helps slow down the car. It uses one piston to push the brake pads against the wheel, which creates friction to stop the car.

Part

carbon brakes

Carbon brakes are a type of brake made from special materials that work really well when they get hot. They're often found in race cars because they can stop the car very quickly, but they need to be warmed up first to work best.

Term

dragging the brakes

Dragging the brakes means lightly pressing on the brake pedal while driving. This can help make the brakes work better, especially for special brakes like carbon brakes, but doing it too much can wear them out faster.

Concept

NHRA

The NHRA is a big organization that runs drag racing events, where cars race in a straight line to see who is fastest. Their 75th anniversary means they've been around for a long time, which is a big deal in the racing world.

Concept

Wally

A 'Wally' is a trophy given to drag racers when they win a race. It's a big deal in the racing community, and many racers dream of winning one to show off their success.

LIVE

What for me, man?

Is it good, Peyton?

Are we ready?

Everything sounds good?

Having a talk right here?

Like it's recording, recording?

Everything, sound, video?

How long?

Nice.

I say we leave it in there.

What's the problem?

We're doing this again?

Are you gonna be in this?

You're just gonna stand there and look at us.

Oh, we're ready?

Yeah, now we're gonna do it again.

So we did it once.

The first one was a success.

Let's call it a success.

It wasn't a fluke.

People watched it, listened to it.

I don't have the exact stats on it.

You don't have the analytics?

I don't have the analytics here in front of me,

but people did watch it.

They do seem enthusiastic.

I heard one person say,

I hope it gets a lot better.

I said, hey, fair enough, man.

Hey, I hope it does too.

Yeah, we do too.

So it was our first one and got 10 years.

Yeah.

Almost, yeah.

So, you know, give me a break, man.

Yeah, and it's your first one.

Yeah.

So they'll get better or they won't,

but we're still gonna do it.

We said that in the first one.

They might get better if they don't.

We're gonna keep on shoving it down y'all's throat.

Yeah, better is subjective or objective.

Look, my mom said it was good.

My mom did too.

You don't think I'm shit, but my mom does.

I don't care what else anybody thinks.

Yeah, I know your mom thought it was good.

She probably did.

I don't know.

I didn't really talk to her about it.

I don't even know if she knows.

She probably didn't listen to our podcast.

No, she probably didn't.

It was on YouTube though, so she probably did.

Oh, yeah.

So, but it's been what?

Three weeks now since we did one?

And we were supposed to do one every two weeks,

but we weren't home?

Well, okay, so it's gone for two and a half weeks.

It kind of changed though, because we said it,

and then we said, you know, we'll do this once a month.

And then we said, you know what?

Let's make it bi-weekly.

So we almost made it.

Bye.

What'd you laugh about, Aimee?

Yeah.

So, and I think it's only been what, two weeks?

We missed Tuesday.

Tuesday would have been two weeks, I think.

Because we uploaded our first one to Thursday

that we started testing blue.

And that was three weeks ago today.

Did it upload, and then it came out on Tuesday?

It uploaded, yes.

Okay, so this one's gonna upload the same then.

Tomorrow, and then it come out on Tuesday?

Or are we gonna just put it out?

We'll probably just put it out.

I think we should just put it out.

It is what it is.

We're gonna try to do Tuesdays, guys,

but it's not always gonna be Tuesdays.

I mean, it may not be Tuesdays.

Tuesdays may not be the day for us anymore.

I mean, we might release one on Thursday.

We might do Wednesday, Friday.

Or we might do Tuesday.

Yeah, or we might do Tuesday, or Monday.

Yep.

Or Monday and Tuesday.

Shit, man, there's second place.

You could get third.

I was high when I said that.

You know.

So, yes.

What are we talking about?

I mean, we got a lot to talk about, I think.

We got some pretty good notes over here.

Where's our note board?

He put it to where we can't read it.

So, obviously, we're gonna talk about

the winter series first.

I mean, that's kind of the biggest thing

that we had going on.

You know, we kind of lit into it.

And the last podcast said that we were going there.

We went there.

Hang on, hang on one second.

I just wanna say, before we get too involved in this,

that this spot, this podcast is brought to you by

Parker Speed, no relation.

Really?

No relation.

I thought at first, whenever I saw Parker Speed up there,

I thought, you know, went on all the free time

that I'm giving this guy too much time off,

is what we're doing here.

Like, Phantom has entirely too much time off

and he's gonna start at his own ATV shop.

It's ATV shop, right?

No, it is not, actually.

Oh, I thought, man, I thought they'd made,

I mean, that would make sense for me to have an ATV shop

since I'd be like, it's one of these.

That's what I thought it was.

So, no, Parker Speed Shop is,

he makes all kinds of cool stuff.

So, all of our turbo flanges and stuff

that we have on like the FireDunk, my shop truck.

Oh, he's a race car place.

Oh, yeah.

Man, where did I get, was there somebody else

that wants to come in?

And they, there is, there's another company.

So, we have another one that makes cages and shit.

Yes, yeah, that's right.

Look, Parker Speed Shop, I'm sorry, man, got you confused.

So, what he makes guys, he's got,

first off, it's top shelf, top of the line,

I'm making made stuff.

That's right.

So, he does a lot of like billet flanges, turbo flanges.

I mean, he does all kinds of chassis brackets,

like pretty much anything that you could dream up

that you would need for your race car.

He makes it right in North Carolina,

ship it to your doorstep and you can put it on your car.

So, that's the stuff that it's nice to have

sitting on your shelf for whatever you're building,

stuff like that.

Or if that's what you do,

whereas us, we always go, man, this would be nice to have,

but we need it right now.

Yes.

That's our biggest problem.

So, super cool stuff.

If you're building your new turbo kit or something

and you need a way to mount your turbo

that's nice and clean looking, he's got you fixed up.

If you have, you need some way

to run all your piping to your turbo,

he's got the hot side mounts for it.

I mean, he's got everything.

Go to parkerspeedshop.com, check out everything he's got

and be sure to tell them that we sent you

and thanks for sponsoring the podcast.

Yeah, we appreciate it, guys.

It goes, what am I throwing my phone down

and it's bothering you?

My bad.

Look, my bad, guys.

I just messed up the whole audio here.

To people like him, you don't,

I don't know if you realize how much that that means to us.

Just the little sponsorship, us to mention his name,

it keeps us doing things like this.

So, it means a lot and we really appreciate it.

And it's not just some Joe Schmoe,

like I've used his parts a lot.

Well, and that's how he reached out to you

and got in with you and all that.

Yes.

It's just a coincidence we got the last name.

Same last name.

But anyways, man,

it was a good first race to the winter series.

Like,

I mean, we, well, it was a good race,

but it started off kind of bad,

to be totally honest with you.

Well, and it's still not good.

No.

Like we still got a lot of stuff to fix.

So, yeah, I mean, we can talk about that.

It literally, guys, on our second pass,

we lose our boost reference line,

which is very, very vital to the engine.

So, I mean, we've done it before,

like we've lost it out of the intake

on the Nova like a bunch.

So, that's the main line that tells the ECU

where to fuel and where to time.

So, look, man, you would think.

There's a way you can get around it

and I think we need to look into it.

You would think that what you could do,

you're obviously never gonna be in that part of the map.

Let me explain what happens, guys.

So, the boost reference line,

it tells the ECU how much boost we're running.

Well, and whenever we have, let's just say 50.

50 is a nice round number.

When you have 50 pounds of boost,

you are in a certain area of the map at 50 pounds of boost.

You have a certain amount of timing.

You have a certain amount of fuel.

All that stuff goes into play.

Well, when you lose that boost reference line,

the ECU thinks you're making no boost.

Unfortunately, the motor is still making boost.

All of it.

But then the map goes down to fueling for no boost,

which will never be at between six and 9,000 RPM

with no boost.

That's never gonna happen.

So, you would think that at some point,

so what it does, man, is it fuels for idle.

Somewhere around there.

And it puts just enough fuel in the cylinders

to hurt itself, to go lean and hurt itself.

So, basically, what we had to do was we changed two pistons

and it bent a rod, which is still mind-blowing to me.

We got lucky that it just bent that rod.

Yeah.

So, after that, we had to scuff the crank.

We literally sanded on the crank

over there in the pits and...

Polished the crank in the pits.

Polished the crank, sanded on everything,

put two new rods and two new pistons in it.

Well, unfortunately.

Two new rods and two old pistons.

That's right.

Two old pistons and two new rods.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, it still smoked terribly

and that's the reason that everybody,

which I understand, guys,

even in the past, our car smoked a lot.

Now, while we were there, though,

we were tired of it smoking.

So, we hollered at our buddy.

Marty.

Marty over at Turbosmart

and he sent us some restrictions.

Basically, how much ever oil pressure our motor has,

which we're pretty proud to say,

it's got 150 plus on a pass of oil pressure,

that runs by the turbo seals a lot.

And so, you restrict how much power

or how much oil goes to those turbos.

So, we got those and the thing was still smoking.

Unfortunately, we think that we should have replaced

all the rings in that motor,

which, man, it sucks bad to do

when it literally has two passes on the motor.

So, we just kind of, we dealt with it all weekend.

And then every pass, that's all you hear.

Oh, he blew it up that time.

Well, the announcers don't like us anyway,

so they were probably happy to say.

Man, they actually were pretty solid to us.

I think everybody's starting to come around a little bit.

Do you think maybe, hey, these guys might be for real?

They're thinking, man, these guys aren't too bad.

You know, kind of like the Cleveland Indians

whenever Charlie Sheen played for them, you know?

Back in the day.

These guys ain't so fucking bad, you know?

But y'all, you and Robert were both pulling up

and they announced, now let's talk about this guy.

Great story.

I was like, I don't think it was Robin Ross.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, you know, it's, it wasn't too bad.

It really wasn't, man.

So last year we went there, we talked about it.

We didn't qualify.

And this year, you know, our goal wasn't to just qualify

because we knew we were gonna do that.

Or we felt like we were going to,

but we wanted to go some rounds.

We did.

And we won the first round.

Unfortunately, it was against our buddy, Robin.

On a whole shot.

We got him on a whole shot.

We knew his car was gonna be fast.

I do feel like blue was maybe down a little bit on power

and that could have possibly been

the flash of the rings that is upset.

Or like Mark Mickey said, man,

we could be blowing through the converter just a little bit.

But you can see it in the data.

In my opinion, like everything else on this,

it's like, it's like my opinion, man.

But we were three to four numbers off

on everything that we ran all weekend.

Brandon was putting power to it.

And it just like, it wasn't bringing the drive shaft with it.

If it, you know, the RPM was up almost 200 RPM higher

and the drive shaft is staying the same.

So that usually tells you right there

that you're blowing through the converter,

but we don't know.

It could be some other stuff too.

My first initial thought,

and that's the reason we talked to Mark,

was that it's blowing through the converter.

Something between the firewall and the drive shaft for sure.

Yes.

So unfortunately, we have the car back here now

and we have stripped all the brakes and everything off of it

and we're sending them back to lamb

to get everything redone almost.

And then we're going to change out all the pistons.

Yeah.

I think I saw a box from Proline today.

I know.

So I think that we got the rings in.

So, and it's not hard.

Like, man, getting all the turbo stuff off sucks.

It does.

Like we can, I feel like if that was our pro charge bar,

get the zoomie off, get the head off,

then we could be going back together in about 30 minutes.

It doesn't take very long.

Man, the extra stuff would give the turbo off.

Yeah, but go in there.

Qualifying 12.

Look, guys, the baddest dudes on the planet were there.

80 of them.

80 plus of the baddest dudes on the planet were there.

And we qualified 12 and we made it to the second round,

which was 16 left.

Yeah.

And then we kicked the tire.

We did what we said we don't want to do.

We want to prove that turbo cars can be consistent.

But in the daytime, we also felt like the track wasn't,

and this is very tough to say,

whenever a lot of those cars are going sub nines,

eight nineties to the 60 foot.

And we couldn't go very fast to the 60 foot there.

And even Mark Mickey came up to me and was like,

man, I just can't get to the 60 foot.

And then after that, that's the reason

that the car was wheeling so bad.

If you don't go real fast to the 60 foot,

then you bring all the power in.

That's why the car wheelies out the back

and the rest of the trip.

You go faster to the 60 foot,

that takes a lot of that wheeling away.

Yeah, it's not, we're not trying to go 9-0.

I mean, God, if we could go 9-0 with a turbo car,

it's over for all y'all, but you know.

Trying to go 9-40s.

If we could go the 9-40s that we've been,

God dang, that car would be fast down there.

Yes, and I think this next race,

I'm gonna be honest with you, man.

I think the next race, the air is gonna be amazing

and I think it's gonna take,

I think that there's gonna be numerous cars

going bottom 50s there.

Yeah.

With the way that the weather is.

I mean, we're gonna be one of those cars.

I'm not concerned with that, but man,

the amount of people and guys,

when I say we're morons, we're dumb,

everything that we say here is our opinions.

Strictly our opinions.

Man.

So, you can-

And have no reflection to anyone else

that may support us.

Yes, yeah, at all, yeah.

So, the people that abandoned turbos.

Everyone, everyone, we're gonna be one of the only,

us and Mark's gonna be one of the only turbo cars left

before it's all said and done.

There's already people swapping.

There's already people swapping and I'm okay with it.

I don't care.

I understand it isn't easy.

It's not.

But you have to, you gotta give it a shot, man.

Like, Victor's already pulled his off.

He's already-

They pulled him off that car that Swanson's doing.

Oh, they did?

Yeah.

So, there's two.

Victor, I wouldn't be surprised if Chris Thorn did.

I don't know, like this is,

I don't know anything about Chris Thorn.

I'm not talking to him, but I know his car hauled ass.

And then he had problems.

You know what I mean?

So, it wouldn't surprise me if that one

had a hard charger on it at the next race.

Which is fine, man.

I get it.

A lot of people wanna go out there

and they wanna do what they know

and they wanna do what's a little bit easier

and more consistent.

I get it, guys.

Man, going 220 school.

We've done it.

But we've done it.

I'm sitting here, I'm complaining about people

about abandoning ship.

We've done it.

But how many times did I say,

I wanna know that I gave this a fair shake?

Two years, we beat our heads off the wall

with that turbo car.

Before we put a pro charger on it and...

Hit the ground.

Oh, you know, after we got all the shit wiring.

Yeah.

Hey, look, I know.

I know that hurt.

Uh-oh.

But.

Yeah.

So, I'm not, I am in no way, shape, or form shit

on other people to do it.

No.

We're just not going to yet.

We're just not going to, man.

We're gonna keep it up and we're gonna try it

and we're gonna prove that you can be consistent

after we smoke the tires and the heat.

Look, I think on the tracks that we raced that car on.

Turbos are fine.

I'll no prep stuff.

I don't.

Where the surface is iffy.

But if you look, normally the surfaces aren't iffy down there.

What it was because the whole brand new starting line

that they put in.

Yeah, it was.

So the brand new starting line guys that they put in.

Just because you see our foot stick to the track

doesn't mean it's...

It was glue.

It was false is what it was.

It gave you a false sense of, man, this track is amazing.

And don't get me wrong, out there it was.

Out there where the Turbos kick in

and that thing kicks the front end up

and we were still backtracking very...

Backsplitting.

Backsplitting 111.

Yeah.

Which is amazing.

It's mind boggling.

Like the fastest hardstarch car only went like 117.

Yeah.

So yeah, they get us.

That's because they're doing it so good early.

They get us by six numbers early or four numbers early

but then we got six numbers on them in the back.

Yes.

So I think by time the second race comes around

there's gonna be a lot more rubber down early

because basically all that you saw was Cletus

making videos at that track.

Oh yeah.

Since they haven't really had any big time races,

none of that stuff since they redid the starting line.

Yes.

Yes, no, that's it.

I mean, he's been hunting records with Eagle or whatever.

And the limousine and the El Camino.

That's what I'm saying.

And the guys at Brainton are top notch.

They just need more cars going down the track

to get it to what we needed it to be.

So they shut the track down for what?

Four or five months to redo all their parking

or the drive-in situation.

So that's four or five months

they didn't have cars going down the track.

As good as that track is and as good of a base as it has.

There was a lot of bear up there

and they just filled it in with glue.

They did what they could.

So by no means are we talking bad about the crew there

at Brainton Motorsport.

They're some of the best in the business.

And that track is killer.

And I do believe that this next time

we're gonna be able to run some low 940s

and the car's gonna be done.

Yeah, if we can find a hundredth and a 60 foot

without 111 back split, it's gonna be big for us.

We still have the same goal, guys.

We're gonna go down there.

We're gonna try to qualify even better at this next one

and try to go some more rounds.

But to do what we did, guys, we are stoked, you know?

And even if Erin does call me a baby.

She called you a poor sport.

She called me a poor sport.

And I mean, I feel like we don't disagree with her,

but hey, you know, keep your opinion to yourself sometimes.

Fair enough, fair enough.

But she was upset at the end of the track.

Well, she wasn't upset.

She was amazed that you were upset.

She was amazed that I was upset at the end of the track.

Round two qualified?

Yes, whenever, yes.

Round one qualifier off the trailer.

Round one, we won a 60 with a nine, I believe.

Yeah, something like that.

And that put us at number seven after the first round.

And we're thinking, damn, damn,

all these people in number seven, six or seven.

It put a sixth, seventh.

So I was happy about that.

Second round comes along and we go 59.

Well, we just so happened to line up next to Kai.

Kai cuts a better light than I did.

Not by a lot, but still he cut a better light.

So he beat me there and then he went a 57 to my 59.

So of course, I see 59 come up and then I look over

and this is how things have slowed down into the card.

To me, I look over and I see he goes a 57

and I'm instantly mad.

I'm not mad that I went a 59.

I'm mad because I lost.

And it's one of those metaglasses you can see,

like you can see you physically look up at your 39,

look up at your 37 and go.

Well, me and that.

I didn't say any special words or anything.

No, so it's funny.

Cause me and Brandon were talking about it afterwards

and you know, usually I was obviously excited

when starting line cause we went 59.

But you know, I got on radio and I said everything good.

And you go, you like, you can hear you key up

and you just go, yeah.

And Brandon said he heard that on the metaglasses video too.

Yeah, I know.

So yeah, you know, I was disappointed.

And so Erin gets down there and she's all excited.

And you know, she's, she's my, my, my biggest,

she's my biggest fan, you know,

and she always wants me to be happy.

And she realizes that I am not.

Aiden slide that over because you're in the way of it.

And I can't see it whenever you're sitting down.

And she always wants me to be happy.

And she sees that I'm not happy

whenever I get out of the car.

And she's like, I don't understand.

You're such a baby and a poor sport.

And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

First off, okay, but still.

What's your point?

Yeah.

And, and she just, she doesn't understand.

I lost twice in that race.

Yeah.

That's what I looked at.

That's what I got out of that whole situation.

And yes, it was just qualifying, but what if it wasn't?

What, yeah, what if we, like, you know,

we had to win our first round on a whole shot?

Huh?

So what if that would have been first round?

I know.

That's what I'm saying.

So, and, and people don't understand that

I'm sure that there is a fine line in being a baby

and just being passionate about winning.

So you're not going to be a winner

if you're happy whenever you lose.

No, no, we put that on a t-shirt.

So have you, have you always been like this?

Have you always been like that?

I don't, I don't think so, man.

I think at this point, I've never,

even back in the day, whenever I did win a lot,

I think I, I, I want to win so much more now.

Man, I just won back in the day.

So I, so I'm, I'm, I'm talking even further back than that

before your racing career.

Like.

Anything I do, I always want to be good at.

Always.

I don't care if I'm playing darts, shooting pool.

Dude.

I don't care.

Hate losing in any capacity.

I just, I just don't like it.

Like I never have, and that can make me a baby

or a poor sport or whatever.

I don't like losing.

And I'll never be okay with it.

Yep.

Like I just, like those years when we were getting

our teeth kicked in, like you eventually have to go,

okay, like this is kind of happening

or you're just going to be miserable all the time.

But I don't like losing.

Well, you're still miserable all the time, you know?

And, and I think that to become a champion

and to become a winner, what I would call

somebody who's a winner, you can't be happy when you lose.

You can't get out of the car and smile and just,

oh, hey man, good job.

You know, like I'm, I'm mad.

I go in the, in the, in the toater.

And I act like a baby for a little bit after I lose.

That's just part of it, man.

I'm never going to be okay being mediocre.

Especially whenever I always feel like

we got something to prove.

Yeah, I know, I feel that way too.

But even further than that, like I feel like

whenever we show up anywhere we go,

we have a car that we can win with,

whether it's the blue car or the white car

or the black car or whatever, like.

Are you messing up?

I guess, I'm messing, I'm messing with the same.

All I hear is,

Oh.

Cause you're messing with the same.

This is all I did.

Oh.

And I can hear it.

Well, not everybody can.

You only have the special headphones on.

So I don't, I don't know about being a baby.

Like I get it.

Sometimes I am, I get out of the car whenever I lose.

And I tell the guy, good job.

You know, just like I did Billy, you know,

after he beat a second round.

Yeah, we kicked the tires.

You're not, we should have won, but.

You're not mad at the other driver for winning at all.

No, not at all.

It's just, it's just the.

Just disappointed, man.

Yeah.

You know, I'm not mad.

Yeah.

Not necessarily in anyone in particular, just,

it didn't go the way that we had.

What's wrong with you?

I didn't win, man.

Yeah.

Like, what do you mean?

What's wrong with me?

So my wind light's not on right now.

Yes.

That's just kind of where I'm at these days, man.

Every time I go and put that thing in the beams,

I expect to win.

Yeah.

It's a, yeah.

That's just where I'm at with it, you know?

And that might be, that may not be the right way,

but man, it's working out.

It is.

It's working out.

And I understand, look, I'm not stupid, which, you know,

that's debatable, but I don't,

I know we're not gonna win every time.

You can't.

I get it.

And everybody says, and I even say it to people,

oh, you can't win them all, you know?

But that's something that losers say.

Damn sure gonna try.

Yeah, I'm gonna try.

Like, we're not, we're not showing up at these races

going, huh, hope for the best.

Yeah.

Like, no.

Well, you know, we enjoyed it.

We're driving it back.

It's not whether you win or lose,

it's how you play the game.

Bullshit, it's only about winning.

Like, that's all that matters.

There was one dude there that left

and should have felt as happy as what he deserved to feel.

And that is Jason Harris.

And he's a bad guy.

He's a bad guy.

Like, he was killing it on the tree.

He was killed.

I mean, the cars just lined out.

Also, and it was one of the best looking cars

on the property.

Dude, I love that new scheme.

I love it.

I know.

God, it looks good.

That's why I went over and got one of his shirts.

I know, we're fans.

Yeah.

We're fans.

I'm a fan.

Yeah.

It's not a big deal.

There's a lot.

There's lots of people that I'm fans of there.

Oh yeah.

So there's a whole parking lot full of guys

that I used to follow on faith.

Like, this whole thing's surreal to me

because I've always like,

I've always been a door car fan.

Like, my dad used to take me to super Chevy shows

and like, I've been watching promods for

God, 35 years.

You know what I mean?

And like, you know, do you know who Scotty Cannon is?

Oh yeah.

Okay.

So he was one of my, I got idolizes, dude,

when I was a kid,

because he had the coolest looking cars,

the bright flames, all this stuff.

And like, there's a picture of me on the radio

talking to you as you're backing up

and freaking Scotty Cannon is standing behind me,

watching me do this thing, right?

Like, that's surreal to me.

I know.

Like, it's freaking awesome.

Yep.

I mean, I got to line up against King Tut.

Yeah, you did.

You fucked him up too.

Hey, believe this or not, guys, we're fans of his.

Yes, I understand that I got in his face

and I had some choice words to say to him.

I was upset, you know what I mean?

And I stand by exactly what I told him,

I thought about him,

but that doesn't change the fact that I grew up.

I mean, I've watched him for years.

I've watched his boy for fucking years,

killing it out there, man.

You know?

You know, PDRA Pro Blues Championship.

And so, regardless of, look, man,

regardless of what I said,

I said it in the heat of the moment, man.

You know?

I meant that shit.

I meant it.

I do not take that back.

But with that being said,

I get over things easily.

I don't hold grudges.

If I get upset and call you a piece of shit

and tell you you're an asshole

and all the stuff that I told them

that I thought about them,

man, I was over that the next day.

Yeah.

You know?

That was a whole time ago.

You still hung up on that?

You still mad because I said that?

Look, look, I did mean it.

I did mean it.

I'd be saying some stuff.

And I meant it.

Like, I literally, I don't ever regret things

that I say, guys.

Cause obviously, even if it's the heat of the moment,

and I'm mad, and I'm pissed at the time,

I meant it.

Yeah.

I mean, you got to, you gotta own it.

I said it.

I own it.

I meant it.

I just, I don't hold onto those things.

Just like, I'm good with all dude.

Which one?

When it was driving the car.

Oh, McNeil?

Yep.

Yeah.

I'm okay with McNeil.

And you signed the dash on his dragster.

That's right.

I signed the dash on his dragster.

You know, he's a big fan.

So.

But yes, to line up next to him,

and for the record, I did outrun him,

and I did treat him.

You did.

As boy on the other hand.

You're gonna have your work cut out for him.

Yeah, I got your work cut out for him, man.

He can cut a light, old tie.

Yep.

So, but with that being said,

I really have no enemies there.

Not on my end anyways.

I know that there's a lot of people there

that don't like us,

and don't appreciate us being there,

and don't believe that we're real racers.

But on my end.

It's just like their opinion though.

Yeah.

I try to be nice to everybody.

And I think afterwards, man, I was awful nice to him.

That's probably one of the guys

that talk shit on the internet to me.

But it is what it is, man.

Life is too short to worry about the people

that don't like you.

Now, if I have a problem with you,

then that's different.

But like I said, if I have a problem, I'm a man.

I'm gonna tell you what my problem is.

I'm gonna tell you what I think about it.

And then after that, I'm gonna get over it.

Or you just hold that baggage with you.

There's no sense in that.

There's no sense in it.

You get it off your chest, man.

Yeah.

Get it off your chest.

Tell them what you think, and then move on.

Yep.

That's the best way.

But with that being said,

there's a whole lot of people there

that we have looked up to for years.

Not a big fan of Stevie Fast, to be honest with you, man.

God, that sucks.

But back in the day, man, remember before we met him?

Yeah.

We thought he was the greatest thing ever.

And Aaron was a big fan of his.

Dude, I, okay, so whenever I still worked

at the internet company, right?

He had crashed his car one time.

And he did.

He had crashed his orange Mustang.

And he was trying to sell a bunch of...

For the record, his yellow Mustang,

whenever they did the national anthem,

he fired it up and did the burnout.

I used to think he was the coolest.

I mean, cool as the other side of the pillow, man.

I used to think.

And now I just think he's a douchebag.

But, okay, so he crashed his car, right?

He's selling a bunch of t-shirts.

I ordered, I got on the website, I ordered a t-shirt.

And like 30 minutes later, my phone rings

and it's a Georgia number.

I saw, I answered it.

And he was like, hey, there's Steve Jackson.

Just wanted to thank you for your order.

And I was like, what?

What?

Really?

I'm dead serious.

Wow.

Steve Jackson called me to thank me

for my order of his t-shirt from Killin' Time Racing.

But then I'd seen him at PRI in a visor in Crocs.

He does wear a visor in Crocs.

Hey, and I'm okay with the visor.

I wore a visor back in the day, man.

Did you really?

I did.

You probably wore Crocs too, didn't you?

No, I never wore Crocs.

I had some Crocs.

I grew up in the Bommies.

But I don't, I still enjoy what he does.

And he's...

Oh, he's great for the sport.

And he's good for the sport.

I've always said that.

It's him bashing on us and using us

for topics of his conversations.

Yeah.

That's all you got to talk about.

Yeah, yeah.

If you hate us that bad and we're that big of jokes,

keep our names out of your mouth.

Yeah.

But anyways, that's just, like I'm saying guys,

certain people that we've watched forever,

Sidney went to the finals.

I've been a fan of Sidney Frigo forever, man.

Yeah.

I've always been a fan.

Yeah, I know.

And you know who's doing it?

I do.

Stevie Jackson.

Him and...

Tell it right?

No, I thought Phil was.

No, what's his name?

Pierce.

No shit.

I don't know.

Stevie and Jeff Pierce.

Huh.

I didn't realize that there was a connection there.

So, but, lots and lots and lots.

I wish I had a list in front of me.

One of these days when we get good

at this podcast stuff, guys,

we'll all have a list in front of me

that will tell me all the big names of people

so that I can name off the people that didn't qualify.

Oh my God.

Do big, big names.

I can think of one right now

that has actually won a World Series of Pro Mod before.

Steve King.

Okay, another one then.

Mike Bowman.

That's right.

I don't think...

He didn't qualify.

King qualified either.

Did Steve King qualify?

And I'm fans of both of theirs.

Yeah.

I've watched Bowman Race for years.

I'm fans of the Deckers.

Yeah.

Didn't either one of them qualify?

Chris Thorn is an NHRA promo champion.

And he didn't qualify?

He didn't qualify.

Man, and it sucks too because that thing was rolling at first.

Well, there was...

Mark Mickey almost didn't qualify.

I don't know that I'm not...

That's pretty wild.

I might be a bigger Mark Mickey fan than anybody there

because I was a fan of his back in the day

and I'm still a fan of him.

Well, he's the turbo godfather of this stuff.

You know what I mean?

Ugly ass car?

Yeah.

I remember that.

But man, he killed it with that car.

I did.

I remember when he went 220 plus and that thing like...

I loved the car until you put the extended front end on it.

Just all kinds of big names that didn't qualify, man.

I don't believe that Lyle qualified,

but he got in because of the crash.

He was like second out.

Yes.

He was second alternative.

Like he qualified?

Rivenbark, I believe, was the other one

and Rivenbark made it to like the final four.

Yes.

Just treating the shit out of people.

That's right.

So, look, it was pretty amazing, man.

It was a good time.

It was a lot funner this time, qualifying.

Oh, dude, made out, man.

Hey, and look, dude, the just...

Have we put this video out yet?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, we have?

Yeah.

Did you show the driver's meeting and all that?

Oh, yeah.

Man, see, I gotta watch that.

I've been at PRI guys for a week.

I've been at PRI for a week and I didn't have any...

I couldn't watch any TV.

You had that old motel room.

I had a motel room that didn't have,

like, I don't know if the whole motel was or just my TV.

I couldn't watch any YouTube.

I couldn't watch any Netflix.

Man, I had to come home to finish watching the Diddy.

Oh, yeah.

So...

But he did it, for sure.

Oh, yeah, Diddy did it.

I didn't know we'd say that on podcast ever.

What?

Diddy did it?

He did.

He did it, for sure.

So, but yeah, so I haven't got to watch that video yet,

but man, just walking up, man.

You know how it is, man.

They say, number 12 qualifier, Sean Ellington,

and dude, everybody claps, you know,

and walking up there, dude.

It was just amazing to be around that group of racers.

So, man...

They were...

I don't care if they're claps or not.

It doesn't matter.

They knew we were there.

And that's what we said.

We said, we don't care what happens, man,

but the next time, they're gonna know we're here.

Absolutely.

So, and not to stroke Westbuck off too much,

but what he has done with this thing,

went for the promod for specifically history races here.

Yep.

Okay, so we've been involved

in some really big races over the years.

I mean, we won a championship in 2024.

You know, et cetera, et cetera.

We should have won one in 25 too.

We did, I'm claiming it.

So anyways, walking up to the starting line,

I'm getting goosebumps right now thinking about it.

Walking up to Q2 under the lights at that track, dude.

I can't even explain to you what that's like.

So I want to do it Saturday night though.

I want to be racing under the lights in eliminations

in the final round of one of these races.

Cause dude, walking up there

through the whole crowd of people,

all the people in the stands, like...

Yep.

All the focus is on you right then and there.

And in the car, honestly, you don't even...

I don't think that you realize that.

Like, I didn't realize any of that.

Like I'm just like, man, everybody get out of the way

so I can see Phantom, you know what I mean?

Like cause I'll sit there and I'll wait

until everybody moves till I can see you, you know?

The starting line guy that comes over and tells me,

come on, I don't mean nothing to me.

See, in the car, rolling up to the burn,

so when you let me drive the OG at Armageddon,

rolling up to the starting line,

you know how that starting line is.

It's just people everywhere.

And there's just enough room to get the car through.

That, I don't know how that doesn't get you so amped up

because man, rolling through that amount of people

and most of them were betting against me, you know?

Like, I'm hands over here and...

Hey, no, I see that shit.

Like, I think in the pro mode,

I'm just hoping that I can do it by now.

You know, your focus is elsewhere.

My focus is on that, but you put me in the OG

or you put me in the MPK car.

Hey man, and I'm looking at girls' asses.

Looking for somebody to pat the blow off.

Yeah, yeah, because all you see is basically

here up or down on everybody, you know what I mean?

So I'm looking around and I do see people betting for me

or betting for somebody else, you know?

And you get to look around a lot

because everything in that car is just muscle memory to me.

Yeah. You know, I've done it so much.

And honestly, it is in blue at this point too,

except for the burnout stuff.

And I've been so worried about the brakes

and doing, you wouldn't think that it's that tough

to do a burnout, but look at all the people

that have to spool their cars up on small tires

to do a burnout.

And I've said this in the past,

I'm gonna piss a lot of people off here.

If you have to hit the trans brake to do a burnout

with your small tire car, you need a better tuner.

They don't have to.

Then why do they?

They think it's better, like, I don't even know how to explain it.

If you don't have a burnout, listen to me.

If you don't have a burnout mode,

then all the power that you pull out of that car

is the reason that you can't do a burnout.

No, but I have to take the 55 to that road right now.

I know.

I like to do a burnout right now.

I know.

You should.

Most people can.

Okay, now take that same deal.

I understand that blue makes a lot more power.

Also, the street versus people are still doing that.

Which I don't understand that either.

They're just heating their transmissions up,

is all they're doing.

I hear them just rrrrrrr and the whole way, man.

The whole rrrrrr, tuk, tuk, tuk, tuk, tuk.

And then they sit there for a minute.

Let it pop and bang a little bit.

And then, you know, and I get it, whatever.

If that's your...

If that's your procedure, cool.

Yeah, you know, if that's part of your process

to get up there before you put that thing in the beams.

Okay, I try to keep heat out of the transmission,

especially if you're a turbo car.

So, basically, I don't care where I'm at, man.

You put me in the 55, I will never, to do a burnout,

have to hit the transfer.

I don't know.

It blows my mind to people that have to do that.

And I see a lot of big name, good tuners, good racers do that.

So, do you know the reason?

Cause I truly don't.

I understand the street, because there's no rubber doubt.

Like it's a virgin street.

I get it being already on boost

and laying the biggest black marks you can.

But out of track, except, I don't see the reason.

It is way easier to track than it is on the street.

I get that part, but you should be able to do it.

I could do it on the street with no puddles.

I'm just saying, like, if there's less rubber on the street,

I get it being already on boost, making deeper marks.

Well, I mean, also you got to think this,

you got a whole lot of weight in the trunk

to make the car work on the street.

You have a lot of bite in the car

trying to get the thing to hook, you know?

But I don't know, I can still do it.

So, does everyone not have line locks on their cars?

I don't know, I don't know.

That's, if I have a line lock, I can do a burnout in anything.

Dude, I never had one till I put one on shop truck,

just go around.

I promise you, I could do a burnout for as long as you want.

And you did in the 55 too,

when you raced it down.

Yeah, true.

You know?

Like it's...

It makes it simple.

Yeah, that's what a line lock's for.

Yeah.

A burnout.

Yeah, it's to do a burnout.

Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

So, anyways, but anyways, I saw Bowman do the same thing.

It's tough to do burnouts in these cars, guys.

You have to 100% commit, and it's tough.

Like, you have to let go of the pedal,

and you have to expect those little four inch wide front

tires to hold back.

With a single piston caliper.

With a single piston caliper that aren't the best,

anyways.

Well, because they're carbon brakes,

so there's no heat in them yet.

That's right, that's right.

That's why everybody talks about dragging the brakes

on carbon brakes, guys.

Dragging the brake.

So, you know, it's just part of it, but it does suck,

and it does occupy my brain until I do a burnout.

And then after that, I'm straight.

Well, and it's not so bad when you're testing that car

by yourself and there's no one in the other lane,

but you put a blower car next to you,

and that car, I can't hear it, you can't feel it.

You have to look down at where you're at, you know?

And I was literally telling Swatstrom,

because he was like, man, I don't know what to do

a burnout at, and I'm like, oh, I do, you know,

somewhere around 7,000, you know?

And so, after I told him that, I literally watched it

the whole time I was doing the burnout.

And yeah, it was about 7,000, 7,200,

somewhere around there, you know, to do a burnout.

But turbo cars aren't for everybody.

They're not, they're hard, like, they're just hard.

Every, you know, you kind of, like our street car stuff,

you kind of, it's easier on stuff, it seems like,

but man, with that car, it's just as hard on parts

as our blower cars.

Yes it is.

If not harder.

Yeah, and then, you know, just everything rattles loose.

Yeah.

You know, and you think,

let's not approach our car, it'll be fine.

I don't remember our small block,

rattling as bad as what this does.

But man, we're leaning on it, you know,

and we're making a lot of power, but,

but anyways, man, it was, you know, with that being said,

you know, it's, you know, probably about all,

I mean, there's one more thing I wanna talk about at that,

but I wanna make sure that, you know,

we're done talking about everything else at Winter Series.

The small tire class was cool.

It was, other than they did.

We didn't see anybody go threes,

and I cannot believe that they didn't show times.

I think they are next time, right?

I think they're going to it, the next one, yes.

Did you see how mad they got at Scott

for posting his time slip?

Yes.

Oh dude, I screenshot it before you got to do it.

I don't know.

Why were they so mad?

I don't know, because they,

because they say no one's gonna show up now.

Man, look, that's just Jimmy Dell and Poland saying that.

I don't believe that.

I don't either.

I don't, and I'll tell them, I argue with them.

Every, at every race we go to, we have this conversation,

and I argue with them about it.

I'm like, no way.

They're like, if people know how fast

Ryan Martin's running, or if people knows how fast

Larry Larson's running, then they won't show up.

You're stupid if you have a car

that is, that you're even thinking about

going to that race, and you don't know

how fast Ryan Martin and Larry Larson are.

You gotta have some sort of idea.

Put it in the beams next to them, man.

One of them's gonna not cut a light, you know?

Or, look, Ryan smoked tires, first round.

It is what it is, man.

That's part of racing.

You can't go out there and say,

we can't win because Larry's fast.

Well, you know, what's crazy to me

is we were talking to Swanstrom

before this whole race kicked off, right?

Some people truly don't know what these cars run,

because he told us what they,

that he thought those cars were gonna run.

Swanstrom did?

What did he say he thought?

Teens.

Teens? Oh, yeah.

Remember, I told him, oh, we've done that on no prep.

Yeah.

And, some people-

I do remember you saying that.

You said, we've been teens on a no prep, man.

Hey, and he just kinda went, huh?

But you know, he'll tell you right now,

he's not a small tire guy.

Definitely a slick.

I'm sorry, he's a radial guy.

Oh, for sure, he's one of the best on a radial.

Small tire slicks are different.

They are, and-

And so are big tires.

And every time he puts big tires back on something,

he realizes that.

Yeah.

Big tires are real hard.

Big tires are tough, guys.

They're tough.

They're just floppy and they don't wanna stay round,

and there's just a lot going on.

But they're fast.

All in all, it was a good first race of the winter series.

The weather wasn't what I thought it was gonna be,

or what I wanted it to be.

It was amazing weather.

It just shit air.

Well, rain.

And there was pretty much water in the air the whole time.

Yeah.

But it was warm and sunny.

Better than here.

But, man, let's get to what I wanna talk about.

What do you wanna talk about?

I wanna talk about the dude whose steering wheel fell off.

Bro.

It is the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

And your steering wheel fell off

when you let go of the trans brake button.

Don't feed me some BS.

Two foot into the run, his steering wheel came off.

And then, oh, I'm trying to drive it

because I'm trying to stay away from the other driver.

Look, man, you were ahead of the dude

and you were trying to win that race.

Yeah.

I mean, so watching the end car deal was funny,

but listening to him,

yeah, no, it sucks that he crashed the car.

I don't wanna see anybody ever crash a car.

But you could have hit the brakes.

Just stop.

As soon as you let go of this,

as soon as you let go of the button

and the steering wheel fell off.

Raise your right foot.

At one point, the steering wheel was off

and he knew it wasn't on.

And he started doing this

like he was trying to drive the car.

And he's talking through, he's talking you through it.

The him talking you through it is the best thing ever.

Yeah.

And look, we've all done dumb shit, guys.

We've all done dumb shit.

This was dumb, okay?

I don't, and if I saw the guy,

I'm not shitting on him at all.

I'm not, you know, I don't want him to think

that I was talking about this,

but this was just amazing to me, you know,

that he rode it out for the whole 660.

The whole way.

With no stick.

The car went straight for never touching the steering wheel.

It did.

And then at the last it did not.

So it, after watching the car,

so we've got it queued up here on the TV screen

or the computer or whatever.

And he's the whole time,

he's trying to put the steering wheel on

and he's at one point, he thinks it's on,

he's trying to drive it and it's still not on.

And then right at the end, he grabs the shaft.

Yeah.

And tries to turn it.

Remember Jeff Lutz did that before.

Jeff Lutz went really fast doing that.

He did.

And he grabbed the shaft, you know,

and started turning.

I don't know how that works.

You definitely couldn't do that in blue.

Blue's hard to turn regardless.

But you know what?

If they'd had that motion race works on there,

he probably would have got the steering wheel back on it.

Instead of the spline wheel.

Instead of the, I don't know what he had on there,

but I would assume that it was just a splined one.

And you know, as well as I do, they're hard to get on.

I'm looking at the old Grant steering wheel there.

And I'm guessing he had a old 31 spline.

The old spline one.

Yeah.

Motion race works can get you a different connector there,

but like, it was, it was amazing

how he tried to justify the whole wheel.

Yes, yes.

And we probably wouldn't have even talked about this

or brought it up if I hadn't heard him talking through it

on why he did what he did.

I mean, and not to downplay little gangsters,

cause I love that class.

And that's really the only thing my truck fits in,

but this was over a little gangster race.

Which I get it was for 25,000,

was it 25 to win or whatever?

Well it was.

Did you see all the drama on that?

I did.

Oh dude, made it to the finals

and didn't know that they had already split the money?

That's what they say.

A lot of people say it, though.

Yeah, so who was it?

It was Doug Cook's car.

The motion race works Mustang.

Doug's the one that said it on the internet.

Said that he didn't know, went into the finals

and didn't know that they had already split.

To find out they had split at eight cars.

Yeah.

And I don't have a problem of splitting guys.

I've split with almost anybody who's ever asked,

unless you're in the finals with Dave

and Dave does not split, everybody does that.

No, Dave won't split.

Get out of here.

Of all people, I figured Dave

would be the first one to split.

Dave, if Dave wants to split, he's hurt.

There ain't no doubt about it.

Are you serious?

I've seen Dave split before

and it's whenever he was broke.

Oh, in the Sonoma, in the Sonoma, in the Monza.

He made everybody believe that he was ready to go

and he didn't want to split.

Then he goes, man, if you guys want to split, okay.

And then he was hurt.

I know, he's good at that.

But anyways, yeah, no, Dave doesn't want to split

with anybody ever.

That's shocking to me.

I am shocked.

Yep.

But,

but I always, I'm a firm believer in whoever gets first

should at least get half the pot.

Oh, at least.

Okay, so it was 20 to win, I think.

An old dude got eight.

The runner up?

No.

The winner?

The winner.

No way.

Tommy got $8,000 is what they said on the internet.

I read all this off the internet.

So,

how did that work out?

I don't know.

Tommy got $8,000.

Holy crap.

He's holding up that check though that says 20.

No, he should have got 10.

I've held up a check that says 40 before

and I only got 25 or 20.

A few times.

Yeah.

Yep.

It is what it is.

I'm looking at one right now.

Yep.

So,

you know.

I guess I didn't read all in.

I know they were all, you know,

what y'all mad about today

and that's what everyone was mad about.

That's what everybody was mad about.

I didn't read too much into it.

Ain't nothing wrong with splitting, you know?

Especially when there was a big pot like that.

I was trying to split it 12 whenever I was in it.

Yeah.

So, I mean,

we should have split the big tire deal at 16.

Yeah.

Well, all right guys.

All right guys.

Is this where we split or what?

Yeah, when you went up for the driver's meeting

to draw your next chip.

Yeah.

All right, what were we splitting this at?

Yeah.

So, I mean,

we had fun.

We did good.

With that being said,

we're done with that race.

It's over and we're looking on to the next one.

So, I do see some funny things on the internet sometimes

that I just laugh about.

Guys, I don't post a whole lot on the internet.

I don't, I've never made a post under my own name.

Ever on the internet.

I do read a lot.

Yeah, not on purpose.

I do read on there a lot.

I do, you know, but yeah, I don't like posts.

I don't really do.

Man, I got a, I got strictly got this

just so that we could start the Murder Nova page

and then for Marketplace.

Marketplace mainly.

Yeah, yeah.

So, but I do see things on there

and things like,

yeah, congratulations, man.

Do it in your own car and I'd be impressed.

I saw somebody said that.

Well, first off, we're not trying to impress you.

Exactly.

And second off, I'm also not trying to do it in my own car.

Or your own thing.

Wow.

Why?

I get it, but you know how many people

out of those 80 bad dudes that were there

probably own their own car?

It's funny because somebody said,

good job, Kai, way to beat him.

Maybe one day he'll get his own car.

And I went, you're literally taking up for the dude

who's not driving his own car.

Yes.

Talking about the other guy not driving his own car.

Yeah.

Like, I don't know who all owns their stuff there.

Yeah, it's nobody's car.

It's nobody's car.

But I would venture to say half the people there

that raced in that were not driving their own cars.

I mean, it's possible.

I know there's a lot.

There's a lot, you know?

And we have always drove our own cars

until Keith blessed us with this opportunity.

I mean, I'm going to take this opportunity all day long, man.

People are like, build your own car

then you don't have to race Keith's.

Why?

Keith's got a badass car that he lets us race.

Keith has a badass car.

It's like it's both of ours.

We just keep it at my place.

Exactly.

Your car is my place.

I do whatever I want to do with this car and don't pay for it.

How awesome is that?

You get to reap all the benefits from Keith's hard work.

Yeah.

Thanks for having as much money as you have, Keith,

and having an extra car that you can literally

let me keep at my place.

And trust me to work on, wrench on, race.

Because I explained to him whenever he asked me if I'd

drive it, look, man, if something happens,

I can't afford that thing.

He said, I don't want you to buy it.

I said, yeah, but if something happens,

I can't afford that thing.

And he goes, oh, no, hey, I get it.

And here we are.

Here we are.

And I said, well, with that being said,

I'm going to drive the shit out of that thing, man.

I mean, look, in most professional categories,

like top fuel, funny car, pro stock, none of the drivers own

well, I won't say none of them.

95% of the drivers don't own those cars.

They pay to be in that seat, or they get sponsors

so that they can pay to be in that seat.

And that's what we're trying to do.

Exactly.

We're trying to race for a living, guys.

Like, I've seen a bunch of stuff over the years that,

oh, they got that discovery money.

Oh, that discovery money's ran out.

They're going to start selling stuff off soon.

You're going to see fire cells on everything.

I don't see the fire cells, man.

No.

Really from anyone.

No.

I mean, there's a lot of people that

didn't do right with their money.

Yeah.

And I'm not saying we ain't one of those people.

We had a lot of fun, though.

We had a lot of fun.

We had a lot of years that we can look back on,

and it's all documented.

Oh, yeah.

And we had a good time.

Now, we're trying to be like Hector and go legit.

Yeah, and if we were really smart back then,

you could have kept all that discovery money,

and we'd have had sponsorship money back then.

I know.

But instead, we paid every dime for everything

with our own money.

And people don't realize that.

We didn't get a sponsor until Ram Jack.

Ram Jack.

And that was what, two years ago, actually now, three.

Three in 2023.

Which is the season that's on TV right now.

Yes, on discovery.

That was the first time that anybody ever

helped us out with money.

Yes.

We've had a lot of great companies.

What?

Oh.

We've had a lot of great companies over the last 12,

13 years now that have helped us out with product.

Absolutely.

And we couldn't be where we're at without it.

Exactly.

But no one ever gave us any money to race on until Ram

Jack came on board.

Yeah, and it's nice.

Yeah, it helps.

All the people out there must be nice.

Look, guys, it is.

It's nice racing off of somebody else's money.

Look, so the year that we won the championship,

like a 17 race schedule, or 16 or 17, whatever it was.

16 or 17.

16 or 17 race schedule to know that we were unloading the car

at every race to run at the top.

It was over $175,000.

I mean, by the time you do all the races.

That's what you have everything.

Yes, that's what you have everything.

That's not counting the $120,000 motor, the $20,000, $25,000

transmission and converter, the $10,000 rear end,

the $10,000 worth of wheels, the $150,000 chassis.

The $150,000 chassis, all the maintenance on the rig,

the paying the guys, everything.

That's what it costs to go up there and run at the front.

And honestly, frugal's probably not the best word,

but we're kind of frugal when it comes.

We could have spent more.

Like we're good at not having to spend money on broken parts

and stuff because we service it before.

But how nice would it be to have just a complete new bullet

in the trailer?

Oh, it would be amazing.

Or not have to worry about saving money

and getting something cheaper over here, you know?

Or there's lots of stuff.

Yeah.

So it's expensive not to just run these cars.

It's expensive to run at the top like we want to do.

You can probably do it cheaper if you just want to show up

and say that you were there.

That's not what we're here for.

That's not what we're going to do.

So anyways, so yeah, we're going to continue spending money.

And hopefully it's not our money.

Yes.

I mean, we're actively looking for sponsors.

If you would like your name on the side of a car

and able to tell your buddies that you're on one of the fastest

cars on the property.

That's right.

It is not.

So but, you know, to see what we're doing with the cars

and all that, you can watch the YouTube channel.

But yeah, that's really all I wanted to talk about on.

It's about all I got to say about that.

All I got to say about that.

So OK, let's let's move on to PRI.

You ready for that?

I think so.

OK, PRI 2025 could have possibly

been one of our most successful PR.

It was so made one of the biggest announcements

probably that you've made.

We're just going to jump right into this, huh?

I think so, man.

Like it's probably one of the biggest things

that we have going on right now.

Yep.

No other way to say it, you're running HRA next year.

Man, that's the that's I mean, that's what I hear.

So what are you?

Yeah, let me let me get into this.

I've seen so many idiots and I'm going to call them all idiots.

They're not even morons.

Not morons.

They're not even morons.

These guys are just full blown idiots.

Do they not remember the NHRA took their licenses away from them?

First off, they never did that.

Now, they put out that letter threatening it,

but they didn't ever take anybody.

Yeah, I did have one at the time.

I just let it lapse.

OK, they never pulled it from me.

But whenever I got mine back six years later,

because I had to do it for MPK, I got the same number

and everything.

Really?

Yeah, same, same number.

So I just think it's funny that everybody's like,

they must not remember.

You idiots must not remember that not even a year

after that happened, chief went and ran in HRA.

Yes.

So literally, they reached out to us

to try to make everything better.

Hey, guys, we just want to keep you all off the streets.

Come and race.

They gave chief the opportunity to come and race

promod with them.

So maybe everybody forgot that also.

Like, we didn't forget what the NHRA said to us, guys.

It didn't mean nothing to us.

We didn't care at the time.

Yes.

So they didn't actually do anything to us.

They put out a press release.

And they may not have.

Anybody could have wrote that.

They had their secretary right there, right there.

No, no, no, no, looks really scaring, you know?

Let's let them know.

No, no, make it meaner.

If you leave, you can't come back, you know?

Like, that's the type of stuff that it seemed like.

Like, you're leaving the high school dance.

And as soon as you leave, you can't come back.

Can't go in that parking lot and have time to come back in.

That's right.

So we weren't worried about that.

But I just think it's funny.

No, we didn't forget it, guys.

We didn't forget that they did that.

Did y'all forget that they had already made that up to us

by allowing chief to race his car there?

Like, they did the press release with him.

Oh, dude, it was huge.

They did all kinds of stuff with him in 2006 or 2006.

Maybe people just didn't know about that.

Maybe they didn't know.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure they didn't see it.

Yeah, it wasn't one of the biggest things happening at the time.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, maybe they all forgot that then.

Yeah, I don't know what runs through people's minds.

It's like they expect you to live your life holding a grudge.

Well, I said that.

I talked about that earlier.

I said, hey, guys, it could have been.

Yeah, I get it.

It was like eight years ago that all that happened.

I actually think it was 10 years ago now.

But it could have been three weeks and I'd have let it go.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

No, hey, they didn't like me then.

And then everybody's like, oh, they're just using them.

Oh, it's almost like it's a business.

Yeah.

Oh, you mean they're going to bring us in to try

to fill the seats with fans?

Yes.

Crazy.

I'm OK with that.

It's a.

Oh, so they're going to use me.

Oh, OK, I'm OK with that.

It's a wild concept.

It is.

People would want to do something to better their business.

I know.

It's crazy.

It's almost like they're in it to make a profit.

Yeah.

So yeah, but we're not stupid either, guys.

So I mean, we are.

But yeah, for sure.

Business wise, we're not that dumb.

I mean, we're still we're still we're still here.

And we're still doing this.

We're like, get rough from time to time.

You know, no Christmas tree may not be as full as it was.

But yeah.

But but we're still going to be here and we're still doing this.

So for the people and it's dude, it's probably 50.

If there's 100 comments on that post, 50 of them are.

Did they not forget?

Did you not read any other posts?

Yeah.

Why don't you just jump on the other dude right above you

that said the same thing?

Yeah.

Yeah, no, they there should be a way for the owner of the Facebook

page to like condense all of the stupid comments into one.

Yes.

The way they can all just talk to each other about how stupid they are.

Yes.

They must have forgot.

I just came over here just to say the same thing.

Yeah.

Well, congratulations, y'all are both stupid.

Yes, I don't whatever.

So I mean, chief went I I did with the the the merch over there in the midway,

in the midway.

He had his car and everything set up way on the opposite side, you know,

and it was a big deal.

So it's the same thing, guys.

And literally, that's what they told us.

They said, look, we just hate to see you guys run in the streets.

That's what the NHRA did in the beginning was that's how it evolved.

They wanted it.

People to stop racing on the streets.

Yes.

So, you know, can't fault them for that.

And I don't even think it's the same people.

No, like it's it's gone under a couple of different leadership changes since then,

I believe.

Yep.

So and then the whole fighting back and forth with NHRA versus

IHRA guys, there's room for everybody.

We've said this in the past.

We don't care.

We're OK with that.

Yeah.

You know, and everybody's like, I sure wish y'all was going to go race IHRA.

Well, we were going to, you know, but turns out not everybody wants to keep us

all together.

No, we wanted to.

But turns out there's a couple other guys that are running that other organization

that didn't want us over there.

So it's kind of the way it looks.

I mean, it's not the way it looks.

That's that's that's the way it's got to be.

That's what happened.

That's what's got to be.

So I'm OK with that.

We're not, you know, putting the two together.

I saw that a bunch, too.

Oh, this is just the NHRA trying to compete with the IHRA.

Well, that's two different things, guys.

Yeah, there's the small tire race that Ryan pitched the pinky that they ran

with with the IHRA and then and then there's the big tire stuff that we're

going to do.

Yes.

I don't know the way that the people justify their their comments of, I don't

know, it seems like everything's a big conspiracy to everyone on the Internet.

I know NHRA is doing this.

They're they're reaching for straws and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I don't know, man, like, why can't you just be happy that there's more

racing going on now than ever?

Yep, you have more opportunities to watch all kinds of different racing at two

different organizations that are going to make it as big as they possibly can.

And like, yep, enjoy this time in drag racing, like, don't make it a something

that's not it's not some big competition.

I don't think maybe it is.

I don't know, but it seems like it doesn't need to be, man.

You know, it doesn't need to be.

There's room for everybody, man.

Grow our sport and have fun.

And who's to say that, like, Ryan doesn't take his bad ass small tire car over

there and go slap up on some of them small tire guys.

Yeah, I mean, like, there's room for everybody.

It's not them against us.

And it doesn't ever have to be.

No, it 100% doesn't have to be like some people are going to try to make it

that way.

And there's nothing you can do about that.

That's that's just what some people want to do.

But at the end of the day, there's more, more than enough room for both

these organizations to absolutely, you know, be very successful.

I agree.

Like the NHRA has been for 75 years or whatever.

Like, it's, you know, it's kind of a special year for them.

Also, their 75th anniversary.

NHRAs.

Yes, yes.

You know what I mean?

So bringing, bringing you guys into that is, I don't know.

I think it's going to be cool.

I'm excited to go and race there.

I'm ready to see exactly which four tracks they set us up at.

I'm pretty excited about it too, man.

I mean, I don't care what anybody says, man.

I mean, Darnell or, you know, whatever he's doing over at IHRA, man,

he's bringing a lot of people in.

You know, plus you get all that ice, you know, and everybody says it's

like a big family over there.

I like what he's doing.

Whatever, man.

Well, yeah, it's cool because he's giving people places to race.

He is.

But there's no better.

What do you call it?

Prestigious award than the Wally.

Oh, no, they're 100%.

There's, there's, there's no other award in drag racing that you can get.

I don't care how good it is over at the IHRA.

I don't care if he cooks every meal for you.

Man, dude, if you can't win, if you get a shot at winning a Wally, man, and I

understand it may not mean as much to everybody, but I got, but it's got to

mean something like there's a lot of people that have a bunch of them.

Anyone who says winning a Wally doesn't mean anything to them, doesn't have one

or hasn't raced for one.

Man, I don't have one and I've never raced for one.

And I'm telling you right now, man, that's all I want to do.

I want to win a Wally.

I mean, we were going to try up in Canada this last year until we got

rained out.

Man, dude, if I ever win a Wally, it's going to sit right here with me.

I'm going to carry it around with me for at least a couple of weeks.

Get a holster on your belt and carry it with you.

I'm going to go, oh, you didn't know?

You didn't know?

Look at this.

I'm going to show everybody.

Like I did, like I did my, my belt buckle.

Yeah, you're in your Crigger belt buckle.

Yeah, like I did my Crigger belt buckle.

And neither you or Ryan have a Wally.

I know.

You know who's got one?

Naysailer.

Chuck has one.

Naysailer, I'm like six.

Yeah.

He's, he's an old bracket racer, man.

He's, he's good racer.

He has a few.

Yeah.

His daughter has a cool.

Hey, and I guarantee they're their biggest possessions.

Yeah.

You know, like as far as trophies go.

Yeah.

I mean, we got a lot of cool trophies up there on the shelf right now.

But we don't have a Wally.

But there's no Wally.

We got championship trophies.

We've got always look at Chuck's at all time.

They're just the coolest.

Like, yeah.

And now something, man, it's just that it takes you back to the beginning, man.

They're so cool.

They, they are.

And I can't wait.

This last weekend held it up like this.

Yeah.

I was on the stage.

You don't matter.

It was the smaller one, but you know, I still got them bad shoulders.

Yeah.

So I couldn't hold it.

I was afraid I couldn't hold the big one up.

Yeah.

So we're going to get to race for a Wally, man, four of them, maybe, maybe.

I know we're going to race for at least one because that dude sent us one to put together.

Well, whatever, I don't care.

I don't care if we hand it to ourselves.

Yep.

You know, it'd be nice to have a Wally.

It'd be cool.

But.

Anyways, uh, so yeah, going to race the NHRA stuff, man, and it happened quick too.

Like I get they wanted to announce it there, which is good.

Like everybody wanted, but man, we got a lot going on next year.

Then you should talk about me and Ryan's small tire race.

And I kind of touched base on this last time, guys.

We got a full 10 race schedule full, full 10 race schedule of small tire stuff.

Oh, on the next podcast, I'll have dates.

I'll have everything on, on that, guys.

And, and on our, you know, if you want to see where we're at, um, we'll have a full

schedule of everything on our, our Facebook.

Well, we'll post it on our Facebook.

There's actually a web page.

It's going together right now for it.

Um, there will be a Facebook page for it pretty soon.

Uh, I don't know that they're necessarily ready to announce the name of it yet, but

there is a name for it.

There is a full schedule for it.

Uh, our small tire series.

Yeah.

Small tire syndicate.

Outlaw.

Outlaw syndicate.

Outlaw small tire.

No, it's just outlaw syndicate.

Maybe.

I don't remember.

I was just talking to Carson the other day about it.

Anyways, yes, we'll, we'll have a bunch more info on it because we want y'all to

show up.

It's, it's 10 races, uh, a lot of cool tracks, uh, bottom that we haven't been

to some of them that we have, uh, I'm kind of wondering if one or two of them

doesn't get changed.

It doesn't matter.

Um, but that's going to be a cool deal.

That's going to keep us super busy.

Yep.

Uh, Keith's seven or eight race series.

Did you see one of those got moved already?

I did the Michigan one.

Yes.

Because us 131 is hosting their first ever, uh, NHRA event.

I really wish that NHRA would have just kept it there at Maple Grove.

Yeah.

They should have.

Yeah.

But I don't know.

Maybe they felt like the offer for them to stay there was back-sided.

And you know, I can, I can argue both sides of it for sure.

Um, they obviously did whatever they felt was best for them.

And, you know, I've seen some people say, Oh, the fans don't even show up

to NHRA races anymore.

Are you dumb?

Have you not seen how they packed the stadiums this year?

Oh, like literally Maple Grove.

Let's talk about Maple Grove.

Do you see the aerial?

Yes.

It's insane.

We have packed Maple Grove before and I don't know if it was that packed.

It was unbelievably packed and the aerial photos was amazing.

It's, it's incredible.

If you can find, go to Maple Grove's Facebook page, Maple Grove Raceway

or Dragway, whatever it is.

It's probably before, before it's Durana or whatever it is.

Scroll down three or four posts.

You'll see the aerial shots of it.

It's, it's insane.

But also you, you're not going to convince me that NHRA is dead or dying

whenever they went up against, was it the NFL, that one race?

I don't know.

But they got over a million on watching them on TV.

They were, they were, okay, whatever it was, they became the most watched motor

sports in prime time, whatever.

I remember.

And one of them was like 2.3 million or something.

It was for this day and age, for somebody to get that much is amazing.

It was massive.

And not only were people watching it on TV, the track was itself full.

So look, drag racing is alive and well.

It is.

And in, in, in all arenas, like it is, it just is.

So that's why we're saying there's room for both.

Yes.

Don't try to convince yourself that one or the other is dying and not going to

last much longer because, man, it kind of seems like both are no doubt, no doubt.

And I'll be honest with you, man.

We've talked about it numerous times, man.

If you're just a sportsman racer.

Can't beat the payouts over there at HRA.

They, I, I would be totally one sided and blind and dumb if I said HRA sucks.

Why would we ever go there to race?

I see why people are going to go there to race, man.

They pay back to like eight and the payouts are good.

Well, Nate said he got like 1500 just for qualifying at whatever race he went to.

Plus the ice.

Can't forget about that, man.

I, he told me that he goes, I was talking to him at the winter series and he goes,

yeah, I'm probably going to go race in pro-mod at the HRA.

I was like, hell yeah.

He's like, man, that one race I went, I qualified.

I got a check in the mail for 1500 bucks.

I was like, I mean, that's badass, you know?

And he goes, every morning I woke up, there was two bags of ice at my trailer.

I said, Nate, what do you use ice for?

Yeah, like, what do any of those people use ice for?

We haven't, it sits out there and melts.

We haven't used ice since we got rid of the transmission coolers that took the ice.

It's a nice gesture, I think it is.

But what are you doing?

What are you all doing with the ice that they go there?

What are y'all doing with the ice?

I got to know someone, someone's going to listen to this and you're probably

going to get mad and I'm not apologizing for it.

But what are you using ice for, man?

Yeah, what are you using ice for?

Whenever you come out of your toater and you got the fridge in there and you got

ice makers in there and you probably got a freezer cooler thing on the outside

of your coach that's plugged in and freezing all your drinks.

And what are you using the ice for, man?

You're using it for your intercooler that you don't have anymore.

No.

So I don't get it.

It's a good gesture.

Like, I know everyone, it's nice to just get something.

But my whole problem about it is they act like that's the reason you should go there.

That's their selling point, brother.

Yeah, the selling point should be you get money.

The selling point should be they pay out good and I'd go fair, fair.

Yeah, because that is awesome.

I mean, you got to check just for qualifying.

That is that is cool.

That is very cool that you don't get that anywhere.

I don't think I've never raced anywhere else.

But if you don't, if you don't make it to the final rounds of the MPK, you don't get paid.

No. So and it's always good, you know, we're still on the topic of PRI.

It's always good to walk around and see stuff.

But I truly believe that the internet has killed PRI, to be honest with you.

Internets killed a lot of things.

Well, what did you see at PRI that you didn't see before PRI?

Because everybody posts everything before PRI.

Oh, yeah. No.

Hey, I've seen that.

Who built that ugly new promo?

Oh, oh, man.

Why you got to do that?

Oh, we can't talk about that.

No, we can't. So the new five star body that.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, the one that got wrapped brother brother, you missed it.

That's like a cross between a brother 72 Mach 1 and a scooter or something.

I don't I don't know. Oh, man.

OK, well, anyways, I saw that on the internet before.

Yes, we even got there.

And that's like everything else.

It's like people just can't wait anymore or something gets leaked out about it.

So everyone used to make fun of us because we debuted new cars every year for a while.

They had fun about the reviews, the abracadabra.

At least she had something to look forward to,

whether you were going to shit on it or whatever,

at least there was something to look forward to.

Like you didn't know exactly what it was.

You know, and now, man, like you said, you see everything.

I know. I've seen everything already that PRI has.

Now, I don't get to touch with it, touch it, play with it, you know,

put hands on it, you know, like I do, because, you know, I like to touch things.

I'm a touch type guy.

I noticed that Erin is too.

She just walks around and touches stuff.

She I think she's changing.

She does. I think I think she's changing.

Like she I she really married me

in hopes that I would change.

And then I think she changed.

Yeah, somebody's got to change.

Yeah.

Well, oh, yeah, 20 years yesterday was my 20 year.

Did I don't even know the same people that I knew 20 years ago?

20 years ago is a long time, man.

Literally, it was me and her.

Yeah, 20 years.

Literally, it was like 20 years ago, literally.

And then she's just been there the entire time.

And then don't do the math on it or anything, but it'll be 20.

That's one of my favorite stories when you all talk about that.

About about being married.

Yeah, she was fine with it.

She was. She was already fine.

So I.

Erin got pregnant.

We don't know how it happened, guys.

Immaculate.

All of a sudden she was just pregnant and she said, no, it's not a big deal.

We don't we don't need to be married.

And I was thinking, sweet, you know, right on, you know, and then a month

before Ainsborn, she said, I'm not having this kid until we get married.

I was like, I don't think you have a choice.

This point.

Yeah, like that.

Yeah, you've you've done waited too long.

You made the wrong decision to make this decision.

Oh, you're going to have that kid at some point.

And then she trapped me.

You know, got it.

Got you, bitch.

That's what she said to me.

And so, you know, it worked out.

It worked out in her favor.

You know, not too bad.

She got me right where she wanted me.

And a month after we got married and that's why even the other day

when everybody's like, let's see some wedding pictures.

Yeah, look, guys, we didn't really have a wedding.

OK, we went to the courthouse.

It's overrated.

We went down to the courthouse and we got married.

That's the way to do it.

And she was pregnant.

You know, I looked like I was pregnant.

Two, though, at that time, I was I was big.

He was big Sean.

I was big Sean back then.

Like I was three twenty.

You know, I think after Aiden was born, I even continued to grow.

Put on some bad weight.

Yeah. And then once he turned.

What was the last time the first time you went skiing?

You were five.

It was it was it was two thousand when you lost all the weight

the first time 2011.

So five years.

Must have been if it was 2011.

I lost all that weight when you lost all the way.

That's when I lost all that weight.

Yeah, that's whenever we were big time in the fifty five.

Yeah, yeah.

Race Street five.

That was fun.

It was.

But as far as next year goes, our shit is filling up.

It's full.

Like, don't don't do anything else.

Also, there's still a lot of burnout stuff, man.

Yeah, no, there's there's a lot of stuff we're going to fill in.

I had a whole schedule.

Virtua 26 three months ago.

Well, you can still have it.

That's awesome.

No, I'm just saying, like, it's cool to get in a schedule.

Oh, oh, it's nice to have a schedule.

Yeah, before March.

Yeah, that that that is nice for sure.

It helps to plan things out a little better.

I don't know what it's helped yet, but it's nice.

Well, we know it's just nice to know.

We're not going to look at it until a week before.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, I just go where you guys tell me the next race is, you know,

and sometimes so get something in between there, too.

Yep.

So PRI is always cool other than we don't really see anything new anymore.

But I feel like we kind of go to PRI for different reasons nowadays, too.

It's kind of more to visit with our people, which we've always done.

But a little deeper, maybe nowadays, than what it used to be in the past

and trying to meet new people that we can bring on board with our programs

because we've elevated that as well.

But it would be nice to see some new cool stuff there every now and then.

And I don't know how to fix it.

Like you said, Internet.

Internet killed it.

It did.

It's killed everything like social media.

I hate social media.

Like I understand you guys are watching this on social media right now.

But yeah, it's killed a lot of stuff.

One thing that I didn't I knew about, but I didn't see was the new B liner wheels.

Yes.

So for the people that don't know, blue was in the race star wheels booth

at PRI this year.

That's the wheels that's on blue and they just came out with.

And I understand, guys, Mac fab has been working on this.

And I think he came out with one first.

We do.

Like everything that Mac fab does.

And we use we got his beat locks on a few of our cars.

Yes.

So they got us out of a bind when we were testing earlier this year.

Thanks, Kyle and these guys.

So but being in the race star wheels booth,

we got a pretty smoking deal on a set of wheels, not free.

Although that would have been nice.

They weren't free. I tried for free, guys.

Still trying for free.

We haven't paid for free.

No, but I got my name on a list and we're going to try your names on lots of lists.

It is. It is.

So so it's their new bead liner wheel.

It's a bead lock plus a liner wheel.

And I don't all tire for small tire.

So they've had they've had liner wheels forever.

Yeah. Yeah.

So I don't really.

That's OK.

I truly don't understand how the liner works.

And I don't understand why you also have a bead lock now.

Do you can you explain it to me?

Because I like I seriously I don't love them.

Yeah, I mean, I don't.

I don't understand.

Do those have a bead lock?

What the small fire ones?

Yes. Oh, OK.

So they're not like these out now.

That's just a lot.

So how does the liner wheel?

How does the liner get rid of the small tire in there?

You put so much air in it, it pushes out

and it holds the tire like so.

OK, so you you set the pressure in there.

That's what holds in you.

And then you never get in the forties or fifties.

There's a lot of air in the liner.

And then you never mess with that again.

I don't think so.

I think that.

So then you just mess with your tire and then it also makes

since it's, you know, tall, it makes the sidewall stronger.

I don't know.

I haven't messed with the bead lock in the liner

and I honestly have never owned a set of liners.

So I don't really know.

I know it sucks to take off.

Think of a 36 inch tire with that small tire.

Not even that much.

Oh, yeah, yeah, of air or non tire of non tire.

Yeah, yeah, that much.

Probably a small tire, I'd be like, I'm sure that the the inner tire is smaller.

So I've seen a video.

Lyle put out a slow mo video of his car at winter series

and he had it.

He had his beef liner wheel on it really.

And dude, it looks like a radio like that sidewall barely moves.

So I like I see the benefit of it.

I just I don't understand exactly how it works is all.

I think it's going to be amazing.

I'm way happier now that you told me that those wheels have a it's a it's a be

the line will that make it.

It's not the tire.

Absolutely.

You won't have to worry about mounting that on a machine or something.

So so basically then you just slide the tire on the inner tire

and then you slide that outer put the inner and outer tire.

I'm sure you put the inner tire inside the tire and then put them both on

together and then you lock them in.

Whereas you don't have to worry about that.

You don't have to worry about busting at loose.

That's the part that sucks.

So you have to bust a liner loose to get the tire off of just a liner wheel.

Yes, yes.

OK, so then the liner wheel is just going to be a liner.

It's not going to be the lock anymore.

The bead lock will lock the slick onto the wheel now.

Yes. OK.

So I see that.

But it should also lock it to the the liner, the tire inside.

My mind is going to that's going to suck changing those tires every six or seven

passes. Oh, yeah, no, it's going to regardless.

But it's going to be better than this.

Yeah. You don't need a machine or anything like that.

Every six or seven passes. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll probably run 10. Yeah.

I mean, if we're not beating the sidewalls out of them, it should be

it might last longer because it's not the trend.

Maybe we could ask Lyle.

How many passes he's been making?

Lyle Holler at us.

How many passes are you getting with your bead liner wheel?

So the bead liner wheel in Big Tires was new this year.

Also, member Brandon told us about those early in the year.

Well, they didn't send them out to anyone.

They put them on some pro stock cars at NHRA this year.

And they got in trouble.

Well, they told them it was OK.

And then they qualified good with them.

And they said that made me a fan of.

Freeman, Freeman, Richard, yeah.

Whenever I saw Richard Freeman stand up for himself the way that he did, man.

Yeah, that made me a bigger fan.

That's because he's got that few money.

That's right.

He doesn't care.

And that's awesome. Yeah, that's a good place to be.

Yes, it is props.

Yeah. Good for him.

Yeah. So Richard, you got any cars you need?

Sean, the drive.

Yeah, we're going to get this racing deal figured out at some point, guys.

We're pretty good at the racing.

Well, the we need the other side of it, the other side of this.

We're going to get figured out at some point, guys,

and we're going to take it as far as we possibly can.

So I mean, like, as far as far as we possibly can, like you talking

like a fuel car is that far and whatever.

So is our producer telling us we've talked to you?

He is. He is.

We don't got to talk about everything that's on the board.

You don't want to talk about your diet plan?

My meth. Yeah.

I mean, I did see somebody say sponsor you sponsored, brought to you by meth.

Yeah. Are you on that?

Walter White, blue, I guess.

So everybody thinks you back on that mess because you lose weight

and then you're in the snow and you sniffle just a little bit,

you know, and then everybody thinks, you know,

you know, dude, oh, I like reading comments.

I mean, they're funny.

But man, like where some people's mind goes, just heals me like.

You lost however much weight you've lost,

which isn't even the most weight you've ever lost.

Yeah. And also a hundred pounds before.

Yeah. And people think you're on that ish.

I don't know. I'll tell you what, when I was on it, I wasn't skinny.

Yeah, I'm serious.

Like I feel like this is something that I've talked to about numerous times, man.

I've done all the drugs. Yeah, I've done them all. It's OK.

I had a life before all this, you know, lots of people did.

You know, I don't ever feel like I was an addict because I quit on my own.

Yeah. I said, man, I had a good time doing all that stuff.

I'm not going to do it anymore.

And everybody laughed at me and I didn't do it anymore. Yeah.

So at some point, no, unless it's my birthday.

Yeah, you know, I'll do a little toot.

Just play. Yeah.

But yeah, I don't know, man.

Just because someone loses weight doesn't mean they're dying of cancer on meth.

But sometimes they're dying of cancer or on meth.

A lot. Yeah.

I don't care. I enjoy reading it.

Like I said, I don't take anything that I read on the Internet.

Like literally, man, you could tell me what a piece of shit I am.

And I'm just going to laugh. Happens daily.

I'm OK with that. Yeah, I'm all right with that.

It's just like your opinion, man.

You know, you screenshot and stuff on the Internet.

I know, I do it sometimes.

It is what it is.

So I don't ever say that I don't know.

No, I mean, you know, yeah, I mean, you own it.

It's like, oh, no, I wouldn't mean it was 2026.

It's almost 2026, man. Let that shit out.

You know, tell people, you know, let them know I'm OK with it.

So all right.

Well, I think our producer over here is telling us that we're done talking.

So so so what are we doing this?

Are we are we are we going to do?

Are we going to keep this biweekly?

We're going to try to do it weekly. What do you think?

I don't know. I don't know.

Let us know what you guys think and also let us know.

I think on the next one, we'll have somebody.

Let's have somebody on the next one. I mean, I don't know who.

Yeah, are we having someone next week or two weeks from now?

Oh, it won't be probably not next week.

That's Christmas, right?

Christmas is next week.

So probably probably the week in between Christmas and I mean,

are you are you going to the mountain house?

I don't think so.

It's going to be hotter there than it is here.

If I'm not going to get to snowboard.

Yeah, that's all stay here.

That's really all New Mexico has to offer.

Yep. I may as well just stay here.

I could have rented the house out.

Not for very much. There ain't no snow.

I mean, we could do one next week if you wanted to on Tuesday or something.

We'll see. We'll see.

But let it. Yeah, I don't know if we can get somebody on, you know,

Ryan, Dave, at some point, all those people said they wanted to.

And you know, who else said they really wanted to come down?

Jeff Lutz at some point.

Jeff Lutz is going to be here.

He is dying to get on here.

Jeff Lutz probably has to go down in history as being one of the best

podcast guests ever from the old podcast.

Yeah, because get me and Jeff together, man.

Look, oh, another one that's got to come up that said they wanted to Kayla.

Oh, yeah. Oh, Kayla, Kayla, man, but I get too much trouble.

We definitely have to separate you and Kayla.

Because damn, she'll bring something up and I'll elaborate on it.

And then she'll even take it a step further.

And then both of us will go too far.

And there's no coming back.

Probably be the best podcast.

There's no coming back after that.

So, um, yes, let us know the frequency that you would like to hear these podcasts.

If you would like to sponsor a podcast.

How about us?

How about Kayla, though?

Had you smell her armpit on the she listened to the podcast.

So remember, I asked her as soon as I seen her, if she listened to the podcast

and she told us that she didn't, but she had, you know, that I knew that she

had and that she was going to do that to you on the big end.

Aiden, Aiden told me, I was like, you can't tell them.

I was like, look, man, I'm not going to tell you.

We're racing. First off, we're racing.

Yeah. And if we were just sitting around the house, it may be tough to not tell you.

But right now I'm not even going to think about this, you know, but it was funny.

After the past guys, Kayla came up and she did.

She was doing her interviews and stuff on the big end and a shout out to everybody

for getting Kayla involved in that because I think that she's good at that.

It was a good move.

Yes. She's going to say whatever she wants to say, which makes Kayla, Kayla.

It's going to go either way.

And it's, it was just funny.

So she came up and she literally lifted her arm up and tried to grab the back

of his head to put it in her armpit.

Well, I had my back to it too.

And then I like, it's funny.

Yeah. She tapped me on the back or whatever.

And I turned around and there's our armpit.

Yeah. It's funny.

It is in the video.

Oh, see, I haven't watched the video.

I was just glad she watched the podcast.

That's funny.

Well, you had me go pick her up and she goes, hey, I've watched the podcast.

So, but anyways, that's pretty cool guys.

We're going to continue to do this.

It's fun and it will get better.

It'll continue to get better.

It will.

You know, I will.

We'll have more stories to talk about and things like that.

It's been so long since we've had, you know, any guess on like it's always good

for them to bring up something that happened and then boom, story time.

Well, and then also, you know, we're still trying to, I guess,

maybe find where the line is, you know, you know what I mean?

I don't know that there's a line.

I mean, how far do we want to go?

Because, you know, I can, I can get started on some stuff too.

Also, you know what I mean?

That would do it.

We'll just go from there and we'll figure it out.

We're just going to go with the flow and whatever happens happens.

Yeah.

We ain't going to jump the shark yet.

Yeah.

So, but guys, thanks again for watching or listening.

If you choose to listen on Apple, this is on all the big podcasts, like everywhere.

It's on Apple.

It's on Amazon.

It's on iHeartRadio.

It's on Spotify.

Like wherever you listen to your podcast, you can watch or listen to this and also

our YouTube obviously.

Also, guys, for the record, we would love to have all of our trophies and stuff behind

us.

Aaron won't let us.

She told us no.

I mean, she said that all you morons, no, she said that all you morons attention spans

are so small that you would be trying to read everything in the background and you wouldn't

pay attention to the podcast.

So literally, this is what we get right here, guys, but this is what she gave us.

What where my mind goes is if they're trying to read the writing on our trophy here, if

they're even if they're not listening to us, that means that their video is still on and

we're getting credit for that play on YouTube.

So I don't know that it's a bad deal that we at some point, guys, we'll overturn her

and we're going to put some stuff on the walls.

We'll just sneak one thing at a time.

One thing at a time and then every time it'll just be one more thing, you know, until the

next thing you know, it's just packed back here and then we'll have to scoot our seats

up and then put a shelf up here, you know, put all of our big checks and we got quite

a few big checks nowadays.

I know we didn't even have any, you know, before last year.

No, so anyways, thank you guys.

Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, guys.

So appreciate y'all watching, man.

Thank you for everything.

Obviously, this is how we make our living and couldn't do without the more views, the

more sponsorship, the more everything that we get allows us to do more stupid shit for

you guys.

About this episode

The latest episode dives into the hosts' experiences at the Winter Series and PRI, discussing their racing adventures, car troubles, and the evolution of their podcast. They share insights on the challenges of turbo cars, the excitement of qualifying, and the camaraderie among racers. The conversation touches on the NHRA's recent outreach and the importance of sponsorships in racing. With a mix of humor and candid reflections, the episode captures the highs and lows of motorsport life while teasing future plans and potential guests.

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Episode 2 of Moron Nation Unfiltered is LIVE — and this one’s loaded.

Shawn “Murder Nova” Ellington and Phantom recap the first race of the DI Winter Series, talk about being terrible losers when things don’t go our way, and break down how pot-splitting and race money really works behind the scenes. We also dive into PRI 2025, what that show actually means for racers and builders, and the BIG moment when we announced at PRI that we’ll be racing with the NHRA next season.

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