Moron Nation Unfiltered Episode 3: Questions From Fans, And No More Street Racing??
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Moron Nation Unfiltered Episode 3: Questions From Fans, And No More Street Racing??
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Car
Dodge Viper
The Dodge Viper is a super-fast sports car that looks really cool and has a big engine. It's famous for being a thrilling car to drive, but it's not very practical for everyday use.
Concept
pro-mod street car
A pro-mod street car is a type of car that has been heavily modified to go really fast, both on the street and at the racetrack. They have special parts that make them more powerful and lighter.
Company
Kinetic Engineering
Kinetic Engineering is a company that helps people make their cars faster and perform better by providing special parts and services.
Term
carbon fiber
Carbon fiber is a super strong and lightweight material used in cars to make them faster and more efficient. It's much lighter than metal, which helps improve speed and fuel economy.
Car
Chevrolet Chevelle
The Chevrolet Chevelle is an old-school car that many people love for its speed and cool looks. It was made a long time ago and is now considered a classic, which makes it special to car fans.
Car
Ford 300 inline six
The Ford 300 inline six is a type of engine that has six cylinders arranged in a straight line. It's known for being strong and lasting a long time, often found in Ford trucks.
Car
Rolls-Royce Phantom
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a super-luxurious car that is really fancy and expensive. It's known for being very comfortable and is often seen as a status symbol for rich people.
Concept
will it run video
A 'will it run' video is a type of video where people check if an old car can still start and drive. It's interesting to see if cars that haven't been used for a long time still work.
Car
Honda Civic
The Honda Civic is a small car that many people love because it's dependable and doesn't use too much gas. It's been around for a long time and is often used as a good example of what a small car should be like.
Term
nitrous car
A nitrous car is a car that uses a special gas called nitrous oxide to make the engine more powerful. This helps the car go faster when needed.
Term
turbo car
A turbo car is a car that has a turbocharger, a device that helps the engine get more air and fuel, making it more powerful and faster.
Company
RPM Racing
RPM Racing is a company that works on car parts, specifically transmissions, which help cars change gears. They focus on making these parts better for racing.
Term
transmission
The transmission is a part of the car that helps it change gears, which is important for controlling how fast the car goes and how much power it uses.
Car
Chevrolet Bel Air
The Chevrolet Bel Air is a vintage car that many people recognize from movies and shows. It was popular for its stylish design and is now a favorite among collectors.
Car
Chevrolet Nova
The Nova is another classic car from Chevrolet that was made in the 60s and 70s. It was known for being a smaller, more affordable car that still had good performance.
Term
pro mod series
Pro mod series is a type of drag racing where cars are modified to go really fast. They have special rules about how much you can change the car to make it perform better.
Term
pro charged
Pro charging means adding a supercharger to a car's engine. A supercharger helps the engine get more air, which makes it more powerful and faster.
Term
exhaust
The exhaust system helps get rid of gases from the engine and can make a car sound louder. Some people change their exhaust systems to make their cars perform better and sound cooler.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
The Chevrolet Camaro is a popular sports car that is known for being fast and powerful. It's often used in racing and has a strong following among car enthusiasts.
Concept
street race
A street race is when cars race against each other on regular streets instead of a racetrack. It's usually not allowed and can be risky.
Car
Ford Mustang SN95
The Ford Mustang SN95 is a version of the popular Mustang sports car made between 1994 and 2004. It has a more modern look and better performance than older Mustangs.
LIVE
We're doing this now, we're doing it, it is Tuesday, it's legitimately Tuesday, we're back here,
Moron Nation, Unfiltered, Episode 3, I mean, this deal's happening, like people are actually
listening to this deal.
Yeah, some people, not a whole lot, but it's fine.
They're listening, the ones that are listening, they are listening, listening.
Are they?
Oh yeah.
They hearing us?
I don't know, I feel like they're looking at our blank wall, I see a lot of comments
about our unbearably blank wall.
Well, I'm doing a little artwork.
I mean, you're slowly covering it up.
Slowly covering it up.
It's crazy because you only see it on this one side, you know why?
Because that chair leans.
Because this chair leans like this.
So I have to lean like this, kind of like the seat that you break in your truck.
Uh huh.
And you used to sit like this on the console and now you gotta switch over this way so
that you can try to break the other side of the seat.
If only we knew some people that made really cool chairs.
Yeah, like Viper.
They need to make Viper?
I know you're watching.
I talk to you at PRI, I know you're watching, make us some office chairs.
Office chairs.
Every time I talk to them, they specifically ask me to throw that chair away.
I've had this chair, guys.
I don't know how long you've been watching, but I've had this chair, I don't even
know where I got it.
We had to have stole it from someone.
So this chair is not something that, these are throw away chairs.
This is not some nice, you know, exclusive chair that you get for anything.
Like that one is way nicer than this one besides that one doesn't roll and there's no arms
on it.
There's no way I could sit in that.
I don't know how you're doing it.
But this is like you said, this is a, hey, stop making noise back there.
That's the most comment I've seen is everyone say, good job, yeah, we can hear all that
too.
I know.
I know.
I read the comments.
I'm not doing it anymore.
I'm not, I'm not going to do anything.
And I know that everybody wants to hear it's like this, but they want to get close to the
mic.
This is not going to happen.
We will eventually get better guys.
What?
I did a video of Jay, I sent a video of Jay that dude, I think may need to be golden.
That's what I said.
Yeah.
But someone else said it now.
Oh yeah.
So then that's probably what he's going to name.
It's cool that someone said that and you said that.
Yeah.
I like gold.
I am peeling.
I'm peeling.
So it's like I said, it's at best $100 Walmart chair that we've had for 15 years.
Probably.
I mean, monkey did put some nice newer roller wheels on here while back.
So I broke a wheel and I thought it's over.
You know, the chair, it's just, we still didn't throw it away.
We're just going to have to throw this thing away.
At least that's what I thought.
We rolled around on this thing for a year at least.
Well, you had to sit on it just the right way.
Other like if that wheel was in the back, you would lean back and you would think
it was over.
Yes, it would buck you off.
Well, then monkey comes up and I saw these pink wheels, which they are pink for the
record.
And I thought, what are those?
And he goes, Oh, those are replacements for your chair.
He brought me replacements for my chair.
He doesn't have problems.
He just, he's got solutions and this thing would have went in the trash if monkey
wouldn't have brought me those.
Eventually.
Eventually.
At some point, it would have bucked me off.
You got mad.
I'd have been mad.
And I probably, I probably would have forgave the chair, but it probably would have broke
whenever it bucked me off is the problem.
And right now it's so close to breaking.
Yeah.
Eventually, guys, look, this is just the third one.
We're going to get new office chairs.
God dang, that kills me, man.
Oh my God.
The picture of Ryan with an eye.
Kills me.
Ryan with an eye.
Go to our, go to our Facebook page, scroll back a few posts only for the dude in the
Santa hat.
You'll, you'll think it's later.
That was, that was a legit pick for the record.
That really happened.
That really happened.
That's not like a, Hey, make a funny pose, you know, or what's your favorite
movie?
It's probably Saturday Night Fever, isn't it?
That is just his pose.
That's just how he was standing at that point in time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a moment frozen in time.
Yeah.
So like Sean said, this is our third episode.
And this third episode, what you, man, if you can't pop your fingers, we're not
problems here.
Okay.
This third episode of Moral Nation Unfiltered is brought to you by who, who's, who's
the, who's it brought to us by man, one of, one of the best kinetic engineering
Chris Bell.
The best.
Not one of the best.
The best.
I mean, if you're building a new race car and you don't contact kinetic engineering
for your shocks, you're, you're messing up.
I mean, he told me the stats.
Yeah.
I know.
I was fixing to say, do you remember the stats?
He told us what they were from.
It was amazing.
This winter series, the very first race of the winter series, he had like 30 of
the 32.
Yeah.
It's qualified.
He had like 57 of the 80 that showed up.
Yes.
Shocks on their pro-mod running.
I mean, dude, that, listen, that's cornering the market.
And then a lot of those guys, I mean, there's, there's guys who do shocks that are very, very
good at shocks that are not pro-mod stuff, maybe.
Yeah.
Like what's, what's his name that is known in the radio world for all his shocks?
Mincer.
Mincer.
Hey, great shocks.
Great.
They helped us out in Georgia.
So, so we're not at all talking bad.
We, we like Mincers.
Yeah.
You know, and there's other shocks out there too.
You know, what's Kai's guy?
Adam.
Adam.
Adam is amazing at shocks.
Yes.
Adam, I know uses Pinsky also, which is the baseline for kinetic, but Chris Bell's a buddy of ours.
He's been a buddy of ours since the beginning, like way back when he was the first person
that, well, I got a set of sand tuffs one time.
Oh yeah.
No, I remember you sent the money in the shock even still like that dude.
Yeah.
We've seen him at PRI.
We did.
Um, Chris though, came out on the street with us.
He was the first, how do you say this, legitimate?
He was one of the first, it's called like real, like he was an NHRA championship winning
crew chief, crew chief of the year and NHRA promo of like two years in a row.
And we put him out on the street with us.
And this dude took a chance on two idiot street racers and met, he came out and helped
these guys go.
Like they were already fast on the street and it just elevated like it really took the
street racing stuff.
I think it was the, uh, the challenge for him.
Oh, for sure.
Like, uh, he's done a lot in life and he's been successful at all of it.
And, uh, so it was just another notch on his belt.
You know, it was a challenge that he didn't really, he even said, I didn't know what
y'all were doing and it threw me for a loop and I just wanted to, you know,
I didn't want to fail and not be able to help you guys.
So he came out to the street with us and he literally has told us before that the
stuff that he learned from us on the street has helped him build better shocks.
It did.
It didn't just help us.
It helped him to develop new stuff because, you know, our street that we used to race
on was like a, it was real street.
Well, it was like a crappy track.
Yes.
So it helped him with bumps in it and all that.
It helped him on mediocre surf surfaces.
It helped him at Bristol.
It did.
The big bump in Bristol.
Yes.
So it not only did it help us, it helped him further his program and, which was
already amazing.
Yes.
But, uh...
Yes.
Definitely shout out to Chris Pell, kinetic engineering.
He's doing big things and man, his son is gonna do big things also.
Do this one.
So he's a chip off old block.
Man.
A bigger chip.
But...
Man, yeah.
He, that kid, Jesus, he's smart.
Yeah.
If you're building a new pro-mod street car...
You know that.
Or if you have an old car that you would like to go faster, hit up kinetic engineering,
let him get you lined out, get you hooked up, tell him we sent you a couple more on
sent you.
Yeah.
If he'll deal with you.
He is selective of his clientele.
He is.
He has the right to be.
He is.
He is.
So.
Yeah.
Anyways.
That's pretty cool.
Appreciate you, kinetic engineering, for being a part of the show today and making
sure that...
I think I appreciate him being a buddy more than anything.
Well, dude, just one of the absolute best human beings on earth for real.
Yeah.
We have a yearly, we're going to eat on Wednesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night of PRI.
Yeah.
It's Wednesday.
Yes.
No, on Wednesdays, turns out we go to Ruth Chris and you got to take your god-dang
hat off.
Crazy.
I'm so mad.
Speaking of, you're wearing yours right.
I am not.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, we can't talk about that yet.
We can talk about that later.
Sorry, sorry.
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
A little bit.
It needs to grow up.
I didn't get to do that on my own, did I?
Oh, yeah, I did.
Jim Golden.
I don't think Johnson does not like me.
No, she doesn't.
That's awesome.
Sandy Johnson.
Ugh.
Oh, man.
So.
Not all is Sandy Johnson.
So we're doing this podcast, New Year's Eve, 2025, by the time you see this,
we'll be next year going through the holiday season.
We did work today, though, like literally we just got done painting Aidan's blazer.
Yeah.
We all got high in the paint booth.
It was a good team exercise, team building exercise.
It was cool.
Like, I've never really been around bodywork, you know what I mean, until I come around
to you guys and I still don't really do bodywork, but it's cool to watch the
process and see how stuff works.
Because in my mind, if you take Scotch Brite to a paint job, it's ruined.
Yeah, that's not really the case.
But it was cool to see what just happened there.
We'll have a video on that on the YouTube pretty soon, so.
It is the end of the year.
Christmas has come and went.
I know already.
Did y'all have a good Christmas?
It's been sick.
Yeah.
So she just found out what it was like to be a creator and not creating anything.
Hey, because that day that you put it out, it still comes.
Yep.
It's still here.
Like, and then you wake up one day after you've been in bed for three or four days
like she has.
She's been really sick and you don't have anything to put out.
Yeah.
No, I've been there.
Which is crazy because this is what I told her because she put two
videos out the week before and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you better calm down
on that.
See, it's a...
You should have banked that one.
It's tricky though because you can read everyone's opinion.
Everyone has their own opinion and there's, you know, some people say
bank them, right?
Like it doesn't matter if you put the video out in three weeks old, but then
you go to other people and it's like, record it, get it out there.
It needs to be fresh.
And everyone that you read that has these opinions, they're all successful
and they've all got their own way of doing it.
So who do you even listen to?
I don't know because there is no straight set.
This is what you do to get good views and good money for your views.
It's all a crapshoot.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I know it does suck though because you have a day you want to put stuff out
and then the day comes, you don't have nothing to put out and it's
disappointing.
So I feel her pain there.
So but our Christmases are always weird anyways because some family is
not in town, you know, like basically we used to always be at Angel Fire.
Every year we would go to Angel Fire and we would snowboard for Christmas.
Well, it's warmer in Angel Fire than it is here.
If I can't snowboard, then there's no sense in going up there
for the Christmas.
And that's really all New Mexico has to offer that and rest free cars.
I like to go up.
Yes.
They just fire up.
I like to go up there and unplug.
But we had a lot that we could have got done and I feel like if I'd have been gone the last
three weeks from here, there's a whole lot of stuff that I'd have to do as soon as
I got back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I need to take a break every once in a while though.
I mean, it's good.
You see people all the time are like, man, you're just going to work your life away.
I mean, that's kind of what we do though.
I mean, you know, unfortunately, neither of us are multimillionaires yet.
Yeah.
So then we can relax.
I gotta hope so.
Hopefully that money comes someday.
So I went kind of speaking of on that and with the whole Christmas thing.
We went to my mom's Christmas out in Elk City, Oklahoma.
Oh, it's Dalton.
So we go out to Elk City for Christmas and it's funny because on the way home, Hope is
with us.
Hope is your niece.
Hope is my niece.
I don't know what Dalton is saying.
He wants to buy the highback seats from us that we ordered.
He wants to buy the bucket.
They're sitting right there.
Come get him.
Come get the mother out of our way.
He's talking to that man and I said, no, they've been in our shop for like a year.
He said, my dad said the ones I have were light.
They are in fact not light.
He said, hey, I knew they wouldn't lie.
You don't get lighter than a curkey.
Unless it's the carbon fiber copy of a curkey.
I said, ha, ha, ha, yes, come and get them.
So oh, is that twice now I've set the phone down?
Hey, I get it.
I watched the video, guys.
At some point, is it still bad?
Yes.
It is.
Even without this on there, I thought that this went through the table and up through the
plastic and into the mic.
So anyways, we went out to Elk City and on the way home, you know me, I was already
thinking about work the next day and I'm like, look, tomorrow, I knew that we had
to go get a startup tune in Richie Chevelle and I knew that I had to go and look for, I
had to go and look at that 300 inline six.
So I knew that me and you was going to split up.
I was going to go do one thing, you was going to go do another.
Well, I asked Hayden, hey, do you want to go with me in the morning or do you want
to go with Phantom in the morning?
He goes, well, where are you going?
And I said, well, the little Pete is ready.
So we obviously have to go towards Chickashay to pick it up.
And this new inline 300, which you guys will know more about that if you watch the will
it run video that is coming out tomorrow.
It'll come out before this.
Yes.
So turns out we had to get a new motor for that thing.
It ran.
It ran.
Spoiler alert.
Something had happened.
Something had happened.
So anyways, I find one.
And I told this kid, hey, before you pull that thing out, I want to hear it run.
I want to listen to it.
I want to hear the lifters.
I want to hear everything.
I want to cold start it.
I want to, I want to check the oil.
I want to do all that while it's still in the truck.
And he was like, yeah, no problem, man.
So I knew that I had to go there and I thought on the way home, I'll just swing
through because it was down in Lindsay, Oklahoma, which is south of Chickashay.
So I said, that's what I'm doing.
And he said, well, what's Phantom doing?
I said, Phantom and Richie are going to load up the Chevelle and they're going to
head over to Abel and he's going to put a trailer tune up in the thing to where it
idols to where we can put it on and off the trailer.
And it's just easier.
It's just easier when we're not even running before we dino it.
And he goes, oh, yeah, OK, I'll go with you.
And I said, he said, what time are we leaving?
I said, oh, we're going to leave about eight in the morning.
And he goes, well, what what time is Richie going to leave?
And I said, probably 10.
He goes, yeah, I'll just go with Richie and Phantom.
So that two hours that he could sleep in, he was OK with when you know
good and well that he would have slept the whole way down there.
Anyways, yeah, all they had to do was go from his bed to the back seat of the
truck. So hope who lives a normal life.
OK, and this is college college student normal life.
Her dad has always had a nine to five.
You could call it a nine to five.
Obviously, his hours are probably six to three or something.
Yeah. You know.
Why I've never had a job that is hours like that.
The hours that I've had my whole life, you know, aside from being in high
school and having a job or any of the jump jobs that I had before.
You know, I actually started my career.
Yeah. Or I always just did went in and worked whenever I wanted.
Yeah. And that's what we do now.
And work was over when the job was done.
That's right. And that's what we do now.
We have no set hours.
It doesn't matter if it's Sunday or Monday to me, I'm working.
We're out in the shop until we get a sufficient amount done.
I don't know any different, you know, and somebody like Hope does.
She doesn't know any different from her side of life.
So she had a solution for Aiden.
She told Aiden, she said, oh, if I was you,
I'd go earlier with your dad and then you could quit work earlier.
And the look on Aiden's face was, no, that's not how that works.
What do you mean? Yeah.
Hey, and he literally told her, that's not how that works.
I'll still be out in the shop till seven or eight tomorrow night.
No matter what time I start, she was just blown away.
Like just un-comprehend that he doesn't have like set hours that he works a day.
You know, he works until we're done working.
This life isn't for everybody.
And I tell Aiden all the time, go get a job.
Yeah. If you don't like getting up whenever I tell you to get up
or working as long as what I tell you to, or, hey, man,
you're going to miss your buddies all going out to do this because we're working.
And find something else then.
I'm going to stand behind him whatever he wants to do.
But like I've said, this life is not for everybody.
But I'll bet he'd have a hard time punching a clock also.
Man, so I've had some I've had some normal jobs in the past where I had set hours.
Dude, I worked in a rock quarry for like five years and I worked.
I worked morning shift and I worked swing shift.
Well, morning shift.
See, I don't even know what a swing shift is.
That's from six to ten or I'm sorry, three to ten.
Well, the morning shift was five thirty to three thirty.
So I lived an hour away.
I had to leave my house by no later than four thirty.
And stuff like that.
That's when he's just getting to bed.
Yeah. So and that's like that was my early 20s also.
So it's whenever I was just getting to bed also, you know what I mean?
So it's well, that kind of stuff's rough.
We've said things like this and this is no different from whenever we
before street outlaws even happened.
Man, we spent Friday, Saturday, at least Friday and Saturday.
Sometimes Thursdays.
We spent them out all night and then we still had to get up
and do life the next day.
And it's funny because before we went to my mom's Christmas,
Saturday night, Aiden was out till four thirty in the morning out at her street race.
And so, of course, I woke him up the next morning and he slept all the way down.
But yeah, you got to pay to play.
And that's how we live our lives.
Yeah, like I tried to explain to Aiden whenever
Street Outlaws first came, you would wake up early
because she was just a little kid, three, two, three years old.
And I was out street racing all night.
Well, I couldn't tell him, hey, I've been out all night.
Leave me alone.
I'm a little kid. It didn't happen.
I still had to get up and be a dad. Yeah.
So it's just.
You know, the way that people look at lives
well, and and to to try to explain it to someone that's that's never done
it any other way, I'm sure.
Yes, you know, just unfathomable.
Yes. So because in her mind, that was a legitimate solution.
It was. It was. Go to work early, go to work.
And then get off work earlier, get off work earlier.
But speaking of, he didn't go with me that day.
And I'm pretty sure he didn't go with you.
Well, I we went we ended up going Sunday.
Oh, whatever I got home.
As soon as we got home from Christmas, I told Aiden, well, all right.
And then about 10 minutes later, I go, well, you ready?
And he had already one of his buddies had already called
and he was supposed to go with him to look at some mower or something.
He did get that mower. I don't know.
What are you all racing mowers again?
No, this was a stand up mower.
Oh, oh, bill you or whatever.
Yes, yes. Yeah. Hell, yeah, those things are cool.
Seeing Jeremy use one.
Yeah. So.
But anyways, yeah, no, that was that was my mom's Christmas down there.
And it's I say Sunday because that's what we did with Christmas.
My mom's Sunday, my mom's Christmas was on Sunday.
And then Aaron's family's Christmas was on Saturday.
So we didn't really do anything on Christmas.
Yeah, I mean, me and Mallory went to my folks and we had lunch
and that was really all all we did.
Like I don't have any other family here.
And what? What?
Yeah, we're we're signed with the HRA.
And your dad loves the HRA.
He hasn't. He's never he's never been to one of our races.
We me and Aiden talked about this the other day.
Yeah, I was like, that's crazy that his dad, my dad is the reason watching
so much in HRA and racing and stuff like that.
And he's never came to watch us race.
Yeah, I know it's it's crazy.
My dad is why I love drag racing so much because he that's that's what we did
when I was a kid is, you know, we'd save up.
We'd work overtime throughout the year.
And then, you know, if Thunder Valley was having a super Chevy meet,
we'd go watch the promos there or if there was a race in Tulsa, we'd go there.
Or then there was the Fall Nationals down in us that we went to pretty much every year.
And now you stand behind a car that beats up on some people that he used to watch
racing, you know, and he doesn't come and it's pretty wild.
We need to get him to one.
Yeah, no, we need to.
For sure. We need to get him to a winter series.
So yeah, well, he'd love that because he's from Porta.
Like he's from Ocala.
My dad is from Ocala.
Yeah. So yeah.
But yeah, other than that, I didn't as usual per Christmas.
I didn't get nothing.
I did. Yep. I got a bowling ball.
Is that the one that smells like vanilla?
Yeah. How do bowling balls smell?
Only all of storms smell.
I don't understand. That's how you pick out your bowling ball.
What kids don't you want?
My last storm was a purple ball and that's great.
So this one was vanilla.
Y'all are so full.
Are you serious? I only got green.
I only got green ball because it was vanilla
because all the storms kind of look the same.
What is it a surge?
You have a tropical surge. Tropical surge.
So and it is green and black and so it smells like vanilla.
Yeah. It's crazy.
I never knew that when I had my first ball.
You just thought you said it somewhere.
I thought that I put it in this polisher and cleaned it all up.
And the polish smelled.
Okay.
And so my bag always smelled good.
It always, I used to always smell it.
And then I went to look at this ball and that guy
and the guy that was selling them,
like the old man that was in there,
the guy that drills the balls,
he literally said,
I said, man, which one of these balls are the best?
He goes, oh, they're all the same.
Which color do you want?
Which, which smell do you want?
And I was like, did you look at him funny?
Like, I go, I used to have a ball like this that smelled,
you know, and he was like, yeah, no, they all do.
And I was like, oh my God.
I was like, yeah, so I got the vanilla one.
Man, I, you know, I've never,
I've never been good at bowling when I went to.
Oh, I'm not any good at it.
I went to college for a year and there was a bowling alley
in Weatherford to have like, it would show you how fast
you threw the ball on the screen, you know.
So we would go just see how fast we could throw them.
And not anymore.
I can't, my shoulders can't do that.
So like I was at one point, I wanted my own ball
because I had one that had a hammer in it.
I just never got it.
It's a hammer.
Yeah.
My dad, my dad, my dad rolls a hammer.
Really?
Yeah.
That's badass.
Yeah.
No, never been, it hurts my knee.
I'm not as good as Aiden is now.
And that's tough to say.
Yeah.
But Aiden usually beats us every time we go.
Yeah.
He's a two-hander.
He rolls that deal with two-hand.
He doesn't even have a thumb hole in his ball.
Yeah, his ball doesn't have a thumb hole.
And he used to get mad.
I don't bowl with two hands.
I go, where's the thumb hole?
I don't think your thumb comes out of it.
Yep.
That's what mine does.
What do you mean no?
I watched somebody literally yesterday say,
you bowl one hand or two hand?
And he did the one hand exactly how I did it
because I'm finishing with one hand.
You push it with one hand.
Two handers, they actually spin the ball with two hands.
Okay.
I only let go with one hand.
You let go of the ball with one hand, yes.
But that's because it's already,
you're already pushing it forward and you don't need the thumb.
You just cradle it at that point.
If you did this right here with your one hand
and then Luis let back and you still call it one-handed.
If I did what?
You're walking up with one hand.
I do that.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I do do that.
I'll just go second what I do.
It's two-handed bowling then.
No.
You do this right here.
You do this right here.
Your arm wraps around the body.
Your arm wraps around your body.
Yes.
You don't spin it with two hands.
That's two-handed bowling.
No.
You still bowl with two hands.
If you don't have a thumb hole, that's two-handed.
You would drop your ball.
You would roll your ball backwards coming back.
Yes, you would.
If I cut it like this I would.
Well, you don't do that.
There you go.
Oh man.
And now that I've had all these problems and stuff with my shoulders.
Oh yeah.
How did that feel afterwards?
Fine.
That day I just kind of felt weak.
I feel like Erin, you know.
If you go golfing with Erin or you go bowling with Erin.
She's solid for nine holes after that.
Nothing.
Yeah.
And one game she beat us all.
She beat me and Aiden.
Oh, like recently?
Because I've heard about an old story.
Just last week.
Oh man.
Her first game she bowled a what?
140 something?
You didn't bowl a 140 something?
Damn.
I had a really off day.
You're going to have to.
He did.
He did have an off day.
Because he bowled a 190 something the day before or something.
You wore yourself out.
Yeah.
And honestly man, I'm between a 120 and a 150 bowler is what I am.
And now I can't loft the ball out there like I used to.
I used to throw it to the arrows.
I used to loft it out there to the arrows
and then it would hook and come back.
So I try to tell this guy.
What?
He said he's telling you that's the wrong way to do it.
That says the wrong way to do it.
He bows with two hands.
There's only one guy, the guy that looks like Bob Ross.
Oh yeah.
The guy that looks like Bob Ross.
He's awesome.
He bows with two hands.
So anyways, I used to loft it out there and throw it fairly hard.
You know, 21 mile an hour.
And that's not throwing it straight.
That's hooking it and still throwing it.
So then I thought, man, I'm getting older.
My shoulders hurt.
I'm just going to walk up there.
I'm going to figure it out.
I don't try not to slide anymore.
Because I walked pretty fast and I would slide.
And then so now I thought, man, I'll just walk up there
and I'll lay it down and not be so hard on my shoulders.
I just could never really get the hang of it, man.
But I still, I still bowled.
I still got, I got to relearn basically.
So I bowled like a 120 something the first game and a 150.
I mean, even a 150 something is pretty good.
50 something the second game.
Yeah.
No, I was happy with it.
I don't know if I've ever bowled a 150.
Like 120 is probably the best game of it.
I think like a 220 is the best I've ever bowled.
But there was a guy who bowled it.
What's the best you've bowled?
236.
236.
So there was a guy that bowled a 260 something
while we was there next to us.
There was a guy that bowled a 280.
Oh, that dude was good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can look at his ball and this dude was a real athlete.
You can look at his, as, as he threw it.
And it's just the prettiest thing you've ever seen, man.
Every time.
Like he's there every time.
Boom, boom, boom.
He's in the same pocket every time.
Yeah, the angle that we were standing at,
you could see it.
Like the ball is a good right.
And it would go straight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, you know, we don't have to talk about bowling, guys.
Yeah.
To have a bunch of people.
We're in there.
We don't care to hear you talk about bowling.
I get it.
And I get it.
Yeah.
We're not here to talk about bowling.
But that's what I got.
So I mean, we ask what he did on Christmas
and that was kind of your part of your Christmas.
So other than that, man, I just really care about
not really doing anything.
It didn't really seem like Christmas anyways,
because it was 70 degrees outside.
It was way, yeah.
It was like, yeah, this weekend it was 84 degrees Saturday.
Yeah.
Pretty crazy.
Yeah.
Okay.
So last night I was up till like two o'clock in the morning.
I went through 1,100 comments from the comments
of every post we've made about the podcast
since we've started this VLF.
And I...
Okay.
So we're going to do this.
We're doing this.
Like I wanted to go through
and I was actually looking for questions
that you guys had for us.
And you didn't have many questions.
To have it.
I don't see how that's consistent.
Yeah.
And you know us around here,
we're all about consistency.
Consistency is our middle name.
So, yes.
I wanted to compile a list of questions,
but a lot of you guys didn't have many questions,
but you had a lot of comments or statements or...
Yes, sir.
Not really, well, I know there's a few concerns on here.
But I did get a few questions and I got some...
Yeah, I think it will be cool every once in a while
to go through some of your questions.
And answer them here.
Like...
Yeah.
Even if it's a 5, 10 minute segment of...
They just went off.
Yep.
Fill this in.
Hang on.
See?
See how much better that is?
Yeah.
You ever skipped the commercials?
So then you can hear this in?
Skip the commercials.
So on YouTube TV you can...
It'll say skip.
Uh-huh.
And then it will say skip.
And then it will be like a wilderness pitcher
with a waterfall.
And then it says at the bottom, fill this in.
I do that every time I can skip it.
I hurry up and grab the remote and try to skip it.
And then I...
I do that there.
No, I don't.
Okay, anyways.
So yes, I think that that will be pretty cool to do that.
Like even if it's, like I said, 5, 10 minutes worth of...
Here's some questions.
Yeah, and I feel like...
We're not going to answer the same question every week, guys.
No, we're...
You know, of me and Chief are still friends or not.
That is the number one question that we've seen asked.
And we're just going to get it out of the way.
It always is.
You know, like do I consider him a friend?
Yeah, I'm not...
I'll never have anything bad to say about him, man.
The cold hard truth here, man, is no,
I haven't talked to him in a long time.
It's been a while.
Years.
It's been a while.
A while.
When I left Midwest, we were going different ways in life.
We were not on the same path.
And that's what it consists of, guys.
Because I've seen a whole bunch of people say,
well, Chief ever be on the show?
Well, I'm not saying that he won't.
You know, me, I'm never...
I'm never the guy that says never.
Sean will never say never.
I'm never the guy that says never.
Okay, guys, that's a joke.
I say never all the time, and then I do it.
I'm definitely not going to say that he never would be,
because that would possibly be a lie.
And I don't have...
It's not that I look to not be in his friend.
You know, we went different ways in life.
He's not racing with us.
We've got a divorce.
The past don't cross.
The easiest way to look at this, guys,
if I went out to a street race and I saw him,
I would 100% talk to him.
I wouldn't have any reason not to.
He was a good buddy for a lot of years.
I learned a lot from him.
Whether he admits that he learned a lot from me,
that's on him.
I don't care.
I learned a lot from him,
and I appreciated his friendship.
But like everything in America,
things come to an end.
Like street outlaws.
At least 50% of things in America come to an end.
That's right.
That's right.
Half things come to an end.
We got a divorce,
and that is the best way to put it out there.
Like a lot of people ask me,
hey, man, you still talk to chief?
I say, hey, man, have you ever been married before?
Yeah.
Did you get a divorce?
Yeah.
Do you still talk to her?
Hell no.
Hell I hate that bitch.
There you go.
There you go.
That's the best way, man.
We broke up.
When you have a breakup with somebody
and you have to split things up,
or if you're like me
and you just left everything there,
then there's, you feel some type of way
towards that person about all that.
That's where I'm at with it.
It's been a long time.
It's been five years.
I don't have any,
like I've told you guys, man,
I have no,
I don't hold on to things that long.
So anything that I was ever upset about,
I've let go.
You know, fill this in, man.
Yeah.
You know, I've wussed.
Well, you know, and also as we get older,
it's not worth it.
It's equal, it gets too short to couple on this.
Yeah, and it's not worth it, man.
I just want him to be happy.
And if whatever he's doing makes him happy,
I still watch his YouTube.
Like it's not like I, you know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's about it.
But, you know, it's no, probably not going to go out of the way
to make him be on the podcast
because everyone wants it.
Yeah.
But it's not a definite no.
He will never be on.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not like if I saw him out of the street race,
hell yeah, I'd walk over to him and I'd bullshit with him.
In fact, the last time that I saw him,
we talked for a little bit, man.
And it was great.
I'll be honest with you, man.
He was the old friend that I remembered.
Yeah.
You know, we all got together for that big picture.
Oh, for Carl Rosler.
Whenever he retired.
And we all got together
and took a big street outlaws picture, you know.
And I bet I bullshitted with him for 10, 15 minutes, man.
It was amazing.
It was amazing.
It was awesome.
Because he was the old buddy that I remember.
Yep.
So, but with that being said,
we travel in different packs, man.
You know, and I'm out racing somewhere every weekend
and he's not.
So, live different lives.
So, that is the one question that we get all the time.
We got a divorce.
Yeah.
And that's that.
So, that's that.
So, what else?
So, someone wanted, you know, as I got further down the line,
I started writing people's names down, but these I did.
Nice.
So, moving forward, I will start writing people's names down.
But someone...
So, did Kayla's armpit stink?
You know, no, they did not.
But in our first podcast, I had a little smartass comment
about Kayla's pits being smelly.
And when she got to Florida,
because she was an announcer in Florida now.
Which is awesome, I think.
I asked her if she had listened to the podcast
and she slyly said no.
Yes, she did.
Turns out, she had listened to the podcast
and she had a surprise for me after our first pass.
Yes, yes.
And put your whole face in her armpit.
Yes.
I turned around, I saw it and I thought it was funny.
Yeah, no, they were not smelly.
So...
Okay, so what else?
What's your favorite brand of gummies?
Ooh.
I know what.
Yeah, I mean, you legally get them from me.
Yeah.
So, I'm sure you would know.
Yeah.
But I like the 10 milligram...
Smokies.
Smokies, that's what they are.
And I don't really care which flavor.
They all get the job done.
That's right, it does not matter.
Smokies.
I should have taken one before we did this.
Oh, you didn't?
No, I didn't.
Oh, man, go get one.
I know I should have.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know they have the best consistency.
They are.
A lot of them have that weed taste.
And they still kind of do too,
but not as bad as a lot of them.
Some of those will put you in coma.
Yeah, man.
Like, you would think, oh, they messed this one up.
It's 100 milligram, not 10.
Because sometimes that happens.
I can't do gummies, man.
I cannot do any sort of edibles.
I get violently sick and it's just all bad.
It's all bad.
What's up with your messed up pinky?
You know, I've been around you for a long time
and I've noticed it.
And maybe you've told the story.
I thought we talked about it before.
I don't know that I know what happened to that thing.
Here, just so that the people can see.
My pinky does.
There's somebody else that has one.
Is it Kayla?
Is it Kayla?
Somebody else in our circle does.
Yes, and it's a girl.
Maybe it is Kayla.
So for those of you that are watching here,
you can see Sean Spinky.
It doesn't straighten out, guys.
This is it.
But why?
Because I broke it.
Whenever I was young, and this,
I could knock out two birds with one stone right here.
Two birds, one bush.
Yes, whatever it is.
You know that.
I could tell two stories at one time right here.
So whenever I was young, my brother had a boat.
Now you got a boat.
I got a pontoon.
Yeah, it's a tritone.
Got a 225 outboard on it.
No big deal.
Doesn't really run that good.
It will, though.
We got big plans for the Honda.
It's a Honda.
Same thing as in your Civic.
So, which is also, and I used to go to the lake with him
quite a bit, and in the summer times,
we went out to the lake a lot on his boat.
Well, that's also when I started painting my toenails.
Boom, one story.
Second story is we used to tube a lot.
And so as he's pulling me around on the tube,
this little guy was the last guy to hold on.
Oh, did you rip all the weight of it?
And it broke everything in it.
Look, I'm just imagining that this is what happened.
You didn't go to the doctor.
Hell no, we didn't go to the doctor.
Did you at least tape it to your other one?
I should have.
If I would have, it wouldn't have done this.
No, this is just, I mean,
think about how your hands lay and everything.
This is it, and that's how it stayed.
So, it, sorry.
So, I broke it.
It was the last one as I rolled off the thing.
This is the last one, and it, I don't know what happened.
It broke it somehow.
I broke it somehow, and yes, it hurt.
And it bends fine.
It works proper.
It just does not straighten out.
And I would imagine as you sleep and stuff,
this is what your hands do.
It's like this.
Like it looks just like this one,
except this one will straighten out.
Man.
Okay, so.
So, my sister-in-law, the first time she ever saw it, man,
I thought she was going to throw up.
Like she kind of gasped.
Like after it had healed and everything, or when it happened.
This was a couple years ago.
Like, I don't know, I'm 20 now.
So, okay, yes, this was 18 years ago, probably.
Yeah.
You know?
And still, but she also scared of clients.
I get that.
That's a legitimate fear.
Yeah. So, yes.
Huh, okay.
Well, that's what's up with Sean's multidirectional pinkie.
That's what happened to my pinkie, guys.
I think my dad's got one like that, too.
Really?
Anybody who's ever probably broke one
and does not go to the doctor?
Yeah.
I should have at least put a stick on it.
You know, a popsicle stick and taped it up or something,
but I didn't know.
I didn't even tell nobody about it.
Huh.
Oh, you weren't trying to be no bitch.
No.
You didn't want to ruin the day.
Plus, I had no money.
Damn sure I had no insurance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, I think it was our last podcast.
You know, we've got all the podcasts out there.
I think it was the last one.
Cats go, I mean, I can't even think about it, man.
Was it one or two?
Yeah.
Was it number one or was it number two?
Ah, but the number three.
We should have skipped it.
We should have skipped it.
Okay, you guys missed it.
This is episode four.
Either that or we should have had somebody on.
Monza.
We should have had Monza on.
Yeah.
I mean, we should get Manza on here.
You call him.
I could.
Just see if he'll answer.
No, he would.
Monza would answer.
No, unless he's in a tree stand somewhere.
Oh, which he could be.
I don't know.
It might be too warm.
Okay.
So, on our, it was our last podcast.
We talked about the subject of splitting the pot at the end.
Oh, yeah.
And I guess we mentioned about one of your big checks,
not paying the same amount, but it was posted.
One my ass.
All of them.
Pretty much most of them.
Except for that big championship check.
And that, and yeah.
When I won the $100,000 for the championship,
that was a zero split.
Because at that time, that's just how it worked out.
There was nobody else that could have taken it from me
after what the third or fourth round of that race.
So, Jim Howe was the only one that could have caught us
by the third round when we raced in.
And he was too busy on there trying to fix his engine.
And I wasn't going to give him time to fix it.
Hell no.
Hell no.
He needs help, man.
No, man.
We're doing like, hey, Jim, they said no.
It was already a couple hours.
It was.
It was.
They had about an hour.
I told him, you have this much time.
And it was what, 20 minutes after that?
Yeah.
That boosted called me up and said, let's go.
Yeah.
So, which everybody knows me, man.
You know, get your shit together.
Two minutes.
Yeah.
I mean, we fought all year to keep ours ready
and in the lanes.
And you know.
So anyways, yes.
I don't have a problem with splitting the pots.
Everybody worked hard to get there.
As long as whoever wins gets the majority,
I don't think splitting is a bad thing, man.
Yeah.
I don't even think.
If it's a big pot.
Now, if it's five grand, come on, man.
Yeah.
But I know you've even done that for some people, too.
I have.
If they've asked me.
Like our second chance race at Flying H,
it was for what I've done.
I split that with Jerry Byrd.
Yeah.
So.
Man, but look, dude.
Yeah.
I like the bird.
No, I know that that's what I'm saying.
I like the bird brothers.
Hey, and I'm telling you right now, there's let's just be honest
here.
And this is not a dig at anybody.
Some people's budgets are bigger than others.
Yeah.
It's got to be.
There's lots of people out there with bigger budgets
than ours.
Oh, yeah.
But on the same hand, I'm not too proud or too ashamed
or too.
I'm not going to act like we're broke.
Yeah.
Our budget is bigger than some other teams.
For sure.
You know, it just that's just the way that it is.
Not everybody's budgets are the same.
I mean, does the Kansas City Royals get as much budget
is the Yankees?
No.
Then there you go.
No.
So that's just part of it, man.
There is a tear to this whole thing.
And man, that seems to upset people sometimes
that there's a tear to that.
Like even whenever we got paid to be at racetracks
or when we got paid for street outlaws, people would,
you know, I've never been a pocket watcher.
If somebody makes more money than I do, man,
good job.
You must be good at your job.
They're better at negotiating or they're just
fight out better.
That's right.
That's right.
Maybe they bring more people to the track than me.
Yeah.
You know, but there is a tear, you know.
So for people to be like, you shouldn't make more
than this person.
Well, that's your opinion.
Yeah, it's just like your opinion.
Yeah.
It's a good thing.
You're not the boss that makes those decisions.
Yeah.
They won't ever say that to your face, though.
They'll just get on the internet and talk about it.
Yeah.
So but there is a tear on how this goes.
And it's just part of it.
So I do believe that and I say I won't do it if it's $5,000.
But if somebody comes up to you, man,
and they want to split $5,000, $3,000, $2,000,
that $2,000 could have got their whole fuel
to get to that track.
Yeah.
And man, that's something.
And I'll be honest with you, man,
whenever I raced on the streets, hell no, man.
That's what I was fixing to say.
I never split on the street because I didn't care about you.
Yeah.
I didn't care.
That's why I was going to say, Sean, 20 years ago.
I didn't care what it took you.
Yeah.
Me, 10 years ago.
Yeah.
Me, pre-MPK.
I didn't care.
Oh, you struggled to get here?
We all struggled to get here, man.
Yeah.
I haven't been to sleep since Thursday, man.
Yep.
How's your struggle?
I know.
Yeah.
So yeah.
But I think that that's something that as you get older,
you have a little bit more compassion for other people.
Yeah.
I think.
So I could still not like you and not split, you know?
Yeah.
But I understand that if the $2,000, I don't care who you are,
that $2,000 is going to help you with diesel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to help you with something.
I don't care if it helps pay for your crew guys
to go out and eat dinner or whatever.
That helps.
Every little bit helps.
For sure.
So yes, all of our $40,000 and $30,000, $20,000 checks,
they probably weren't for that amount.
But that amount was there.
It's not like they shorted the $40,000.
It just got split.
But it was usually always $25,000, at least.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
Thought maybe you'd bring it in the relief.
Thought the lefty was coming in.
Yeah.
What else?
Let's see.
One more.
Here's one more question.
Do we want to do the ones that are not questions
or do we want to save them all
and do a...
I got to read at least the one.
Who's the big girl?
The big girl that is a...
I just started following her.
Oh, the weather chick?
The weather chick.
Oh, dude, she's awesome.
Dude, that girl's amazing.
And when she does the Mary Thickness and things like that,
yeah.
Hey, dude, that stuff kills me.
So I would like to take all the hateful comments
that people have.
And let's let's...
We can do...
I got to read this one though.
Okay.
So there's one more question
and then we'll save the comments.
We can do some of the comments.
It's okay.
I mean, there will be plenty more for sure.
There will be.
There always is.
There's at least two on every post that we make,
no matter what.
Yes.
Must be nice post something
and your sponsor gives it to you.
I saw that on Monkeys.
On the...
We literally reached out to our people at Kicker
and got something for Christmas for Monkey.
And then dude says, what did he say?
Must be nice to holler at your sponsors
and get them to give you things.
Yeah.
Hey, man, it is.
It is.
It is nice, man.
Our sponsors are great, man.
Yeah.
What did you do so that people would want to give you stuff?
Yeah.
It's a two-way street, buddy.
Exactly.
So on the very last...
But shout out to Kicker.
Thanks for the free stuff.
Kicker is amazing.
Kicker is amazing.
Always have been.
On the last season of Street Outlaws
that we did on the street, like...
On the next episode of Street Outlaws.
The last season where we did the street car stuff
with 55 and all that stuff.
So that was the first time we met Jimmy Dale.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
23 degrees small block.
Oh, God.
You remember that whole deal.
Yeah, I like him now, though.
For the record.
So in that, this guy remembers the episode
when you seemed to have a major disagreement with Jimmy,
but now it seems as though you like Jimmy Dale.
I do like Jimmy Dale.
What happened?
Jimmy Dale was literally out riding around
two nights ago in my dump with a...
Did you see him?
Uh-huh.
Dude, he is funny, man.
Yeah, no, he is.
He can't fold a towel, but man, he's funny.
That's right.
That's right.
He's one of the ugliest dudes I've ever seen in my life.
Dude, his chick is hot, though.
Oh, yeah, I know she is.
Yeah.
Good job.
Hey, and I tell him all the time,
hey, good job, buddy.
Not one of us would.
No, no.
I've never met her a day in my life.
Hey, but good job, Jimmy Dale.
Yeah, good for him.
Good for him.
So why did you dislike him so much?
I feel like I know why.
Yeah, because he wouldn't shut up.
Yeah.
He was the dude that had a nitrous car,
but he was worried about...
He kept saying, he's not going to bump in.
Well, no, you're not a turbo car.
Only turbo cars can bump in,
but he did not want to roll in.
He just wanted to sit on the starting line,
and I just wasn't going to have that.
Look, man, this was my race,
and it's going to be my way.
It's just like me making a rule.
That was my rule.
You're going to roll in or you're not.
Hey, and I think I was a little bit harder on him
because he got one over on me.
Oh, yeah.
I know I can...
He 100% got one over on me.
And after that, I went, all right.
You're going to make an example out of this.
Yeah, yeah, and that's what happened,
because I should have pulled him in first,
and I didn't.
The car that he was racing was a dock over there
trying to kind of come up on the two-step a little bit,
and then I went to him and he wasn't going to move.
And it was stalled dock out,
or I should have pulled him in first,
and I had to sit there all day doing this.
Yes.
And then if he wouldn't have rolled in,
I'd have stopped the race right there.
And I'd have called dock a winner.
Yep.
You know, is what I should have done.
But I thought he was going to roll in,
and so I pulled dock in first.
But, you know, so then, you know,
it's like everything else.
I had my words with him.
I said what I wanted to say
after that, I was over it.
It didn't, you know, and then I think
when I started kind of likening was
small fire cash days out in California.
God, I don't even remember him out there.
Yeah.
I remember they were living in the trailer
and had no money.
Vaguely, vaguely.
Yeah, he's over there betting.
Trying to, he literally said.
Like he's betting for lunch.
Yeah, yeah.
And after that, I don't know.
I just started kind of likening.
Yeah.
I mean, he's a character for sure.
I love what.
I think he's a pretty good dude.
And I like what they're doing for the sport.
Yeah.
I think that that is probably the biggest
reason that I like him now,
because I like what
him and Poland are doing.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
What they've done with little gangsters,
that whole craze, it's, I mean,
literally sweeping the country.
It's, you know, everyone has their own
530 class right now.
Every, it's always full.
Like, it's,
it's pretty cool what they've done, for sure.
Yeah.
So this is a Jimmy Dale fan,
and he's upset with me.
No, no, no.
I don't think he was upset.
He just wanted to know.
Why I like Jimmy Dale now?
What has changed?
Because you, there was a very apparent
dislike for him on the show.
But now, you know, he's in our videos
and we can burst with him and.
I look at it like this,
and this goes all the way back
to my high school baseball days.
It really hit home whenever I went
and played college baseball.
And I'll explain to you.
And this is, this is just
something I just put together in my head.
I've never thought about these two things
being the same, but this is this,
this is how I relate to things.
Yeah.
If you're a high school baseball player,
you're pretty cocky.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Now, short stops.
You know, pitchers, pitchers,
catchers, centerfielders.
They all tend to be a little bit
more arrogant than everybody else.
Okay.
You're all the same.
You're all the same.
You're just on the other side of it.
So the short stop that you don't
really like on the other team
that you're a pitcher
and you're just trying to strike
him out because you think,
God, this kid's cocky.
He ain't no different than you are.
He's just not on your team.
And I don't think,
I think that's the first lesson
about life that I ever learned was
if you played Sarah baseball.
Well, first off, yes, you won
because we were winners.
Yeah.
Okay.
And our record reflected that.
And we went to state every year
just couldn't seal the deal, man.
Like Bob Stutes at OU just couldn't do.
Made it to the big game.
Just can't win the big one.
Can't win the big one.
But anyways, we played a team always.
And they were like our,
we were their big brother
because we beat up on them all the time.
But we had a coach who went to high school there
and it was Cordell, Oklahoma.
And the 12th commandment was
thou shall not lose to Cordell.
That we heard that nonstop from Coach Price.
Nonstop.
It's mainly about football,
but it translated over to everything.
Yeah, everything.
We just didn't like Cordell.
Yeah, it could have been academic me.
Don't lose to him.
That's right.
They had a couple of players on their team
that I just couldn't stand.
Like talking about fighting
after the games and things.
That's how bad we hated them.
Yeah.
Well, fast forward to college,
the kid that I hated the most
on their team is now my teammate.
Hey, give us two months, man.
Hey, we were buddies.
Because you were the same.
You know why?
Because we were the same.
And that's no different than anybody else.
That's no different than me and Jimmy Dale.
I can look back and we're just
10 years difference where I'm at in my life.
10 years ago, I'm where he was in life.
10 years ago, yeah.
Except where he has came off the streets
way faster than I did.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But, but it happens.
It's going to happen.
I understand there's a lot of old people
that are still out on the streets.
You know, and if that's your thing,
it's awesome, you know,
I will never shame anybody for that
because that's where I came from.
But we just don't have time
to go out and do it as much anymore.
It doesn't pay the bills.
I mean,
man, I don't even know if it's that
because, you know,
I didn't mean to get into what you want to talk.
No, hey, that's the perfect segue into it.
I didn't mean to set you up
for what you told me you wanted to talk about.
Yeah, that's just kind of
when you talk about Jimmy Dill,
that's the reason I like him now
because we're the same.
Yeah.
Like hang around with him just a little bit, man.
Put him.
No, he's funny.
Put him on your side
instead of against you.
And he's great.
He's just like Boosted.
Remember whenever me and Boosted had a problem?
Yeah.
Me and Boosted have had our fair share
of problems on the Internet.
And you don't want a mile off to Boosted, man.
He's too damn smart.
So he's too intelligent.
He's too intelligent for you to,
you know, my simple brain, you know,
and then he comes in there
put all his words in.
He hits it at the third level of man.
He comes in there putting all these words in
that I don't even know what they mean.
Yeah.
He's using all these big words
so I feel like you're insulting me here.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
And that's the way it was.
I'm taking a disrespect.
And that's what it was.
That's how he meant it.
It was, yeah.
You know, hey, turn things around
and it's you and him
laughing at somebody else.
Yeah, Boosted.
Get him.
It's the greatest thing ever.
And that's why Boosted is so good.
And that's why whenever we did the show,
we called him and he put on the street racing class
and and I'm sorry.
It was a grudge race class.
Yes.
The grudge race class and all that stuff
because the dude is a G.
He's smart, man.
I don't know.
He's literally a genius.
You give that guy a whiteboard
and tell him, hey, explain this
and it's going to be amazing.
Yes.
It's going to be good things.
Good things.
For sure.
So and that's no different than me and Jimmy Dale.
Like I feel like me and Jimmy Dale
grew up a lot of like.
I feel like we have a lot of the same beliefs.
I just think he's he's cool and
that's the reason that I don't have a problem with him anymore.
And it's probably a lot to do with what he's doing
for the sport.
And you know, Poland's cool too, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
And hell, I hung out with Wu forever back in the day.
Way back in the day.
Way back in the 660 photos days.
Him and Wu, Poland and Jimmy Dale,
man, them three, they're inseparable.
Yeah, they are tight.
They're tight.
So that'll tell you something right there.
Like I liked Wu back in the day.
Wu and him are good buddies.
You take away how bad that we want to win
and how bad he wants to win.
And every other racer out there and men
trade out the cars for a beer
and everybody at the track could be buddies.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
Even the people that we talk about that we don't like.
We love the same sport.
We all are die-hard racers.
So you've got to have things in common.
I mean, and that thing in common is...
Yeah, no, no, you're 100% right.
But man, I like some of those.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, Scott Taylor's another one.
He's a pretty good example.
Look at how bad I didn't like him.
Yeah, and then Australia.
You put us together in Australia.
The dude's great.
He's a great dude.
You know, he really is that good of a dude.
I know.
Yeah.
And I always said there's no way he's that good of a dude.
And then you get to meeting, man, and he's that good of a dude.
Turns out he's a good old Southern country boy.
Yep.
Yeah, Robin.
Robert, I didn't like Robin at first.
I really like him.
Yep.
It's just that's part of it, man.
And I'm sure there's numerous other people, man,
that I could think of off the top of my head.
Palermo.
None of us like him.
Oh, my God.
None of us like him.
Yeah, none of us like him.
And I like Jusson now.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Jusson's cool.
That's a stretch.
No, I'm just playing.
No, Jusson's cool.
Now, what's the other guy from up there?
I don't even want to say his name.
Okay, the guy that wants to bring his the jet car out to race the streets.
Nobody likes him.
Oh, I got it.
Yeah, I literally nobody.
But you know what?
I went to a track one time and he was there
and he took very good care of me.
He did.
But so does Doug.
And he's a cocksucker, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know how it is, man.
Same interest.
I don't know.
If he said we were going to his race next week,
I'd load up and go.
Similar interest.
Similar interest, you know.
But anyways, we can bring up your deal at the very last if you want.
So let's talk about what else was there.
Okay, so there was...
Oh, this one guy.
Do you know Jimmy Kelso?
Did he used to work for you?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so then this story.
I got to tell you a story about him.
Okay, Jimmy.
Right now, we got to stop this story.
All right.
Should I hear Jimmy's what he said first?
What did Jimmy say?
Okay, so I don't know what the subject is
that he's talking about that Jimmy Kelso said.
Yeah, I remember getting kicked out of a place
in Ponca on a job one time for something we had to say.
Okay, I don't remember that.
Oh.
I was his boss.
Yeah.
Dude's doing good now, man.
This dude was just a total wreck.
It looks like he has his own company.
I can't remember what it was.
He's a plumber.
That's it.
He's a plumber now.
Okay, so he turned his life around, man,
because the dude was in and out of jail non-stop, man.
Hey, and he was just a wreck.
Yeah.
And I gave him a chance.
I met him through street racing.
Really?
He worked for, remember RPM racing?
Yeah, they're transmission people.
Nope.
No, no, no.
RPM racing was a shock.
Oh, the data logger.
No.
No?
No.
Then no, I don't know.
Okay.
Any more guesses?
Vents at RPM, right?
He built transmissions.
He built tires transmissions forever.
He could build transmissions, but he did everything.
He built motors.
He tuned things.
Okay, okay.
You know, he did all that.
Then yes, I did.
Yes, Vents.
Vents didn't actually own the place.
His buddy owned the place.
Okay.
But they did everything.
They had, and Jimmy, I met them through,
he worked for them.
Well, I ended up giving him a job at some point,
because man, dude never kept jobs, you know?
Yeah.
And so I remember one morning I go out,
I start the truck.
I'm waiting on two or three people,
because we would leave for my house Monday morning.
And so some people would park at my house,
and then we'd drive to the job site,
and then we'd stay three, four days.
Like he said, Ponca City.
We worked down in Lindsey.
We would work, where did he say?
Ponca.
Ponca City.
Oh, okay.
Ponca.
Yeah.
Yep.
So I don't know where we were going,
but I'm waiting on him, and he's late.
And I go, I'm fixing to leave Jimmy, you know?
That's what I do with Aiden every morning at the racetrack.
Yes.
Yes.
So I'm fixing to leave Jimmy.
Next thing I know, I hear this motorcycle come out,
and it's just wah, wah, wah, you know?
And dude's just on it.
And at this point, I'm living in the house
that Kamikaze lives in now, over,
and so it's a neighborhood, like a neighborhood.
Yeah, there's a lot of houses.
Nobody should be going that fast down this neighborhood.
Yeah, a pretty tight neighborhood.
Next thing I know, I start looking for this motorcycle
that I clearly hear.
And I see Jimmy on this motorcycle hauling ass,
man, coming down the road.
Next thing I know, he lays it over and slides it into my driveway,
into my, into the grass, in the front yard, in the grass,
and then jumps up and starts hiding.
Next thing I know, a cop raw drives by.
He's hiding from this guy.
He's running from this cop, is what he was doing.
Dude didn't have no driver's license.
I'm sure he had some warrants, I'm sure he had some warrants.
You know, but man, come to find out.
Dude turned out to be a good dude, man.
He's got his own business.
I guess he's doing really good, man.
Good for him.
Nice job, Jimmy.
Sometimes people just-
Was he all skinned up from laying it over?
He laid it over in the grass.
Oh, okay.
So, no, I think he was all right.
Man, he was a mess, man.
But hey, that's, that right there will tell you everything
you needed to know about him.
And that's the stuff that I had to deal with with these employees.
Yeah.
But you know, I know that he ended up,
you know, I don't want to put all this business out there,
but you know, he was in and out of jail.
He's a mess.
Yeah, he was a mess.
In and out of jail.
But from what I understand, man,
been a while since I talked to him,
but he's got his shit together now.
And an old lady last time.
Like, I think he's doing good, man.
Yeah, no, it looked like I clicked on his Facebook profile
to see if anything looked familiar.
But yeah, good for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I wish you remembered what he was talking about
and getting kicked out of somewhere that he had something to say.
Kicked out of Ponca.
See, whenever you said that, I'm thinking,
where do you live?
Kingfisher.
Yeah.
I'm thinking Kingfisher.
So let me think.
Oh, okay.
We got kicked out at Ponca.
Man, back then it was crazy because we went to strip clubs
all the time in Ponca.
Oh, man, I bet those were nice.
Oh, dude, yeah.
I mean, every girl in there, man,
stomach looked like balled up home.
Oh, man.
Looked like you took this piece of paper
and just balled it up, man.
And then pulled it back out.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Which is fine.
Hey, for the record, which is fine.
Oh, yeah.
You know, we were still in there giving them money.
Uh-huh.
You know, earning it.
Yeah.
But a little while back then.
That's also whenever I got bit by that fiddle back.
Oh, really?
And I spent three days at home
and Aaron ended up driving up there.
Man.
I think we were just dating.
Yeah.
We were just dating.
And three days worth of her calling.
I come up there to see what bitch you had in that room.
Yeah.
Three days of her calling and texting me.
And I was so sick, I never left the bed.
Like I literally sat and just sweat in that room.
You know how bad that probably stunk in there?
And then next thing, I know she just opened the door.
I had no idea it was three days later.
Yeah.
I think I went into some sort of coma
and I told the guys, hey, just go work.
I think I had them framing poles.
Yeah.
Doing something that I didn't actually need to be there.
Yeah.
Something they couldn't really mess up.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
And man, come to find out, man.
She came and got me and made me go to the doctor.
Man, I don't go to the doctors.
If I get sick, man, look, all you need is some rest.
Go lay down.
Let me sleep it out.
Go lay down.
Sleep for a little bit.
And you'll be fine.
Yeah.
Well, I guess I slept for three days.
And I didn't answer my phone.
I didn't do anything.
And she had called and text for three days
and she ended up driving two hours
up to Park City to see what was happening.
Yeah, yeah.
She had to.
I bet she was mad just driving up there.
As mad as Erin can get.
Yeah.
Erin doesn't really get mad.
Yeah.
But no telling what was going through her head.
Oh, yeah.
Because she's a female.
We should get her.
She's a female at the end of the day.
I don't know.
I don't even have an aster.
What did you think I was doing?
Yeah.
Huh.
Yeah, that'd be interesting to hear for sure.
Because we could have been married.
I don't know.
I don't think we were.
I don't think we had Aiden at the time.
Yeah.
The last one.
What?
Jimmy, let's elaborate on that story.
If you're listening here, obviously you are.
Let's elaborate on that story a little bit.
Refresh Sean's memory.
Yeah.
Um, Jim Golden says,
be a grown Sean man up.
Wear your hat grown up, not a gangster.
Looks like shit, bud.
Ride on, man.
I'm not.
I'm I ain't going to do it.
It's just your opinion, Jim.
Yeah.
No, I like to wear my hat all different ways.
But this hat that I have been wearing,
I do not wear this hat anything except backwards.
Yeah.
I just can't.
And I literally told you the other day,
I got to get new hats.
Uh-huh.
The reason I've been wearing this hat so much, guys,
is because, I'll be honest with you, man,
I've lost a lot of weight.
And some of it was in your head.
Yeah, some of it was around this area.
And so the hats that I have now,
they literally, if the wind barely blows,
it blows them off and stuff.
So I have to get smaller hats.
And I know that everybody's saying,
you literally sell hats.
Go put one on.
Well, we don't really do that anymore.
Yeah, we sell them, but we have someone ship them out.
We have a place that ships all that stuff.
So, but yes, at the racetrack,
whenever we go back, we left everything in Florida,
I will get another hat.
I want a red one.
Oh, yeah, those are a hot commodity.
We have people.
I want a red Murder Nova hat is what I want.
Oh, man, I wore one the other day to Christmas.
They're cool.
That's a classic.
I wore a white Murder Nova hat the other day.
It was eighties.
Nice, which was probably yours.
Probably.
But I need a smaller hat.
We tend to like bigger hats than what we need anyways.
And so all the hats that me and Phantom wear are size eights.
So when people come up to me at the track and go,
I'll buy the hat off your head,
I don't have another one, man.
Yeah.
You know, plus that's gross.
Oh, man.
Hey, but I have gave it to some old ladies though.
Yeah.
It's weird because a lot of older ladies will ask,
can I get that hat off your head?
Look, if you come on a Saturday night and I'm feeling in a good mood,
I'll give you the hat off my head.
And he has just sweaty sweat rings.
I tell them one thing, don't smell it.
And then they smell it first thing.
They cannot.
Some of them.
Yeah.
If you're going to do that, it needs to be in the winter time, guys.
Yeah.
But these hats sure do last longer.
I've never worn another hat as long as what I've had this one.
Yeah.
I wish my head hasn't shrunk that much yet.
So I still have to wear it on the last one.
And then it bees and it looks stupid.
Yes.
Otherwise I would wear those like trucker hats.
Yeah.
So anyways, I'll get a hat.
I'll get a real hat.
But sorry, what's his name?
Jim Gold.
Sorry, Jim.
I'm still going to wear it backwards.
And if I have it forward, then I'll wear a flat bill and I'll push it up.
You know what I mean?
Like the Fresh Prince Bel Air.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So just get over it, Jim.
It's not that big of a deal.
How wild is it to be a grown man scouring the internet as a grown man?
Jim was old.
He was.
Jim was an old.
That's why he's mad.
How wild is it to be a grown, old-ass man?
And be mad about somebody, how somebody else wears their hat?
That's just crazy to me.
I follow people too on the internet.
And I've never thought.
Can't believe this guy still has earrings.
I'm going to say something about it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like it's just not me.
Yeah.
What are you saying?
Should I take my earrings out?
No, I don't care.
No.
I still have some.
I've never taken these out.
Yeah.
These have been in for 10 years.
10 years.
So.
I had to take them out in the old field.
God, I'm done with the old field.
Anyways.
Okay.
I got to read this one.
This is from Ted Melton.
Ted Melton.
Ted Melton.
Is Ted a fan or no?
Ted is not a fan.
Oh, all right.
I like these.
Ted is not a fan.
Dear Sean.
Dear Rob.
There's no punctuation here, everyone.
Okay.
So this might be tough.
Just read it how he said it.
Read it how he said it.
Here we go.
Let me take a breath.
Do you remember what it was like to go out on the street,
test your car, sneaking around?
God damn it was fun.
And I enjoyed watching you guys.
Don't get me wrong.
But the money is the two people up you got used to the taste of greenback dollar
bucks.
You live in fancy homes.
Your cars are super fucking bitch and turbo.
This turbo deck bitching this bitch and that.
You've lost it.
Had to take a breath.
You're not the guys that used to be on the street.
You're fucking TV stars and you ruined you.
You know what happens?
It'll.
What?
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
Did he run out?
Oh, okay.
I'll bet he still typed it though.
I'll bet he still typed it.
Hey, it was probably huge, too.
Man.
He pressed and then he replied to his comments.
And another thing.
Yeah.
It's another thing.
First off, Ted.
Man.
Hit space a couple of times.
But then he wouldn't even be able to say that much.
Man.
So he started out and it kind of seems like he was a fan.
Damn, it was fun.
And I enjoyed watching you guys.
Don't get me wrong.
And then.
And then he's going to let us know that the money has got to us.
The money has changed us, which.
Look, I'm not even going to argue that fact.
Everybody, it's evolution.
Everybody changes.
Nobody stays the same.
We can't put the cat back in the bag, people.
Nope.
Like even if we did go out and street race, say we went to a street race this weekend
and I took the 55, somebody would say, that's not fair.
You beat up on all them $20,000 Fox bodies in that $120,000 car you got out there.
Well, that's the car that I built.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's never in some people's eyes.
It's never going to be fair.
No.
Even though the street is the equalizer, now that it's us that has nicer stuff.
Nobody cared whenever we were beating people that had nicer stuff than us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And maybe that's part of what made it cooler, you know?
But now we're those people.
Like, what are you going to do?
Yeah.
I mean, we had the stuff we had back in the day because that's all we could get.
That's all we could afford.
Yeah.
Nobody buys, you know, the four door Honda Civic if they could afford the Lexus.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I was going to say another nicer one.
You know, that's just, that's how you go about it.
We still had as much nice things as we could afford.
Yes.
But, man, like, I don't know, well, I know I can't say that because I do know,
I do know people that haven't changed and they're still home
where we grew up and, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Look, I don't believe that I've changed a whole lot.
I have nicer things.
Yeah.
You're damn right.
I live in a better house.
Yes.
I mean, your priorities are different.
That's what you do in life.
Yeah, your priorities change a little bit.
You grow up.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, no, I'm still childish as hell.
And I still spend stupid money on stupid things.
Yes.
But still, you can't.
Yeah, no, these, like, that wasn't the only comment like that.
That was just the funniest one because it was one o'clock in the morning.
And I seen it and, like, I'm literally laughing out loud.
No, I wasn't.
But I was laughing out loud because, damn, like, it started off like,
okay, this guy's kind of a fan.
And then I kept reading.
It was like, he's not happy.
Was it in all caps?
No, it was all, it was like, this is literally how it was written.
I control C, control V to put this on the paper.
But yeah, at no punctuation, he did block out the F word
with stars for some reason and bitching.
He did?
He did.
No, I didn't do that.
And Facebook didn't do that.
Weird.
He didn't want to get, he didn't want to, I mean,
back in the day, he would have cared if he lost his Facebook.
Yeah, he changed.
And now he does.
Yeah, he has changed.
You've changed, Ted.
You're soft.
Ted.
Theodore.
Theodore Milton.
Yeah.
Give me one of the ones to read so that we can see,
this is what we're going to look forward to.
Which one, which one should I read?
They're talking bad about me.
Let's see.
Oh, man.
It's usually not a girl.
You think, you think the one that's a girl,
do you think, oh, Sandy.
Sandy Johnson.
Do you think that her husband,
her husband got on her account?
I mean, it's possible, but normally it'd be Sandra John Johnson.
Like, you know, the first name would be both of their names,
and then the last name.
It's a joint account.
Yes.
But if he doesn't have one.
It could be.
He may just been scrolling on her Facebook and came across it.
Should I read that one?
Man, that's a pretty good one.
Okay.
Yeah, I read that one.
Oh, man, the Devon Jacobs one starts off really good too.
You're a joke.
Where's that one?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Let's uh, where's it at?
Oh, Sandra Johnson.
Yeah.
Oh, she starts off with and.
Okay, right on.
Okay, this is from Sandra Johnson.
And you're the biggest crybaby on street outlaws.
That's a fat Jack back.
Hang on.
Hang on.
I can do this, guys.
Hang on.
Hang on.
There was, for the record, there's no calmer or anything after the Jack.
No.
And you're the biggest crybaby on street outlaws.
That's a fat Jack.
Back in my days, you wouldn't be
loud to run on the streets.
We run you off, then take your car and race it for you.
That one I actually replied to.
You did?
Yeah, it was from four weeks ago.
And like, I actually read it before this one.
And so I was already laughing at that one.
And I just put in a little, little, little, little.
And you wouldn't be loud to run on the streets.
We'd run you off and then take your car and race it for you.
Yeah, they're going to take your car.
Yeah.
And then they're going to race it back in her day.
Good luck with that, Sandra.
That would, that was not going to happen.
Never.
I don't know, maybe Sandra's a bad bitch, man.
That's crazy, man.
Think that I'm the cry baby.
I'm the cry baby.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm okay with it.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just her opinion, you know.
Donald Johnson says, who cares about street outlaws?
Time for y'all to get a real job.
I wonder if Don and Sandra are related.
Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson.
Okay.
I know I said I was just going to read one,
but man, I got to read Devon's.
Devon Jacobs says, you're a joke.
He did put a period after that.
Now we're dealing with some intelligence.
And capital, nothing street about your cars, period.
And then he put in, you pay to close down highways to race on.
Outlaws with a question mark, what fucking ever?
Isn't it fucking spelled with no C?
No G, but what is HW?
Oh yeah, what?
W-H-U-T.
What?
Yeah.
Oh Devon, man.
He spelt like that so that you'd know he was gangster.
Oh yeah, for sure.
He's for sure gangster.
Yeah.
I mean, so what did he say again?
He said, nothing street about your cars.
And you pay to close down highways.
Jokes on you, Devon.
I didn't pay on nothing.
Not one red cent.
Street outlaws did.
Yeah, a lot.
It's still street rate.
Like that's what always got me back in the day
reading all the comments whenever the show was blown and going.
Like that's not even a real street.
Like it is though.
It is a real street.
Like the whole point of us street racing was never to do it because it was illegal.
I mean, I get that it's synonymous.
It's not.
That's not why we did it.
Yeah, it was equalizing.
Yeah, it was the thrill of getting something that rowdy down public road
shouldn't have been going down.
It wasn't the fact of this is illegal.
Super exciting.
I can go ahead and do this one right here.
While since and then we won't have to do anything with this.
Yeah.
Oh, no, that's a good one there.
Yeah.
Dennis Hughes Jr.
says street outlaws gave us edited drama.
Can you break down who's actually a good dude and who's a pain in the ass in real life?
Like who did they make out to be a bad guy?
But it was actually decent or who is the son of a bitch but seemed okay the way that they edited.
Um, that is and I that's a legitimate question for real.
Oh, yeah.
So many people think that and I know why they think that I've seen people say they made me look stupid.
No, they didn't.
They just caught you being stupid and they make you say none of that.
So basically, guys, what what it did for you?
There was no matter what anybody thinks you can read it on the daily.
Somebody is typing it right now that it's a scripted TV show.
There was never a script.
Never one time ever did anybody say this is what you need to say except for the time that they
said oh yeah the child were leaning on your cars and said they weren't there.
Then I said that our cars weren't there.
Man, I knew I shouldn't have said that.
They're going to get me on this.
Yeah.
Then they got you.
Then I lied to everybody.
The world, man.
You lied to the world.
Yes.
Yes.
Anyways, there still was no script.
No.
They just wanted me to say that our cars weren't there because we didn't race.
Yes.
What an idiot.
I knew not to say that.
You know, it was like a week later.
They finally got me to say that.
Yeah.
Every interview I ever did, they tried to get me to say that.
Finally, I said, fuck, man, I said it.
And then boom, they used it.
So anyways, basically, if you're an asshole, then the show is going to make you a
super asshole.
If you're a nice guy, Scott Taylor, Dominator, all those people,
then it's going to make you a super nice guy.
If you're just a dumbass, it's going to make you a super dumbass.
The cameras were a big magnifying glass.
Yes.
Now, if you are just always drama around you, then yeah, they're going to focus on the drama.
They're going to show, now you could do, and this is a pure case of how
Robin Roberts got the bad name that he got, because he can do 50 great super nice things.
Well, he did the one thing that they cared about, and that was tell old dude
that he needed to skip the skills, could not be his friend.
He messed up and said one thing like that out of his whole career, out of every,
all the nice things that he does.
He said one thing, and that's what they focused on.
So they, but they didn't make him say that.
No, he said it.
He said it.
He said the shit.
Like that is, that's the thing, man.
They don't make you anything that they made to make you look bad.
You said it.
You did it.
That was part of it.
So I think most of the people are all cool.
We hung out with everybody before the show, but all these guys were street friends.
There's a difference.
They're our car buddies.
There was a handful of them that I would go eat dinner with.
And, but then there's a handful of them that I didn't.
There was, you know, there were more that you didn't than, than what you did.
You know, because, because they were, they were just like he said,
they were our buddies on the weekends that we raced cars with or whatever it was, text them
throughout the week, call them throughout the week, things like that.
But everybody on the show was decent dudes.
Like, Doc always said that weird shit, and that's what they focused on is the
weird shit that he said.
He did.
He just kept saying it.
Yep.
He knew.
This is, this is how they're going to put me.
Yeah.
But he still got upset about it.
He'd be on the internet every week.
Can't believe that they made me say that.
Well, Doc, you said this shit, bud.
No, they didn't never make anybody say anything that they didn't want to say.
Like, I'm not saying that they didn't try to persuade you or push you in a
certain direction.
Oh yeah.
They had a direction they wanted each episode to go.
Yeah.
So, but no, everybody's pretty much the way that they seemed on TV.
Now, if they don't like me saying that or somebody's going to say, no, that's not
how I was.
They always made me out to be bad.
You were just bad.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just all there is.
That's all there is to it.
But I understand that question being asked though.
Oh yeah, no, it's a good question.
I watch reality shows, and I wonder if people are really like that.
And that's why whenever I watch somebody new on YouTube, the first thing I do is go back
and watch their first video ever and see how much they've changed.
And I haven't found anybody yet who hasn't.
See their character development.
Yep.
I haven't found anybody yet who hasn't out of all the people that I've watched.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, you've told me that for sure.
Everybody finds a little niche.
They find their niche.
They find a little niche, and that's the character that they roll with.
Yeah.
I mean.
Now, it may be the same person.
I'm not saying that they changed who they are.
They may just, it may be a deal like whenever we dressed as cops.
Yeah.
That was still us.
We just added a little bit for the TV.
Yep.
Now, maybe the people that I watch add a little bit for their YouTube.
I mean, that's probably, I mean, that's not probably, that's what they do.
Yeah.
And that's fine.
Yeah.
That's what makes them exciting and gets them views.
Yes.
It's still the same person.
Yep.
Just with a little flair.
So.
What?
Was that your name?
That was not mine.
That's his name.
That shit was funny.
See, he knows more about it than I do.
Yeah.
It's a good time.
I have zero, zero regrets on doing the show.
And we knew that it was going to end at some point.
A lot.
We kind of figured it was going to end a lot sooner than it did.
Yeah.
I was happy to do it for as long as we did.
Yeah.
Now we want to continue to be professional racers.
Yes.
So I understand this guy saying street outlaws is over.
It's time to get a real job.
Trust me, man.
We work harder than a lot of people who have real jobs.
I work a lot more hours now than when I had a real job.
That's for sure.
Yep.
So we talked about that earlier.
Yeah.
And no set schedule.
No.
Ain't no set schedule.
Just whatever needs to be done gets done.
I mean, it's almost six o'clock on New Year's Eve.
Yeah.
Here we are.
Doing a podcast.
Doing a God dang podcast.
But I think that's probably about it, right?
Is there anything else, David?
Producer, is there anything else?
What about you?
Man, we kind of touched on it earlier.
Oh, yeah.
And I just, I need...
Not all about this.
I need to talk about it.
And I, like, maybe this is a therapy session.
I feel like there's something wrong with me.
Or maybe I'm just...
Oh, there's definitely something wrong with you.
Yeah.
So, man, street racing.
You know, you talked about earlier.
We don't have time for it because we're so busy with everything else.
And then you know how it goes throughout your life.
You've always made time for the things that you wanted to do.
Like, back in the day, whenever I first met you guys,
I did have a real job.
Like, I've worked all the time.
And I would make time to come down here when you guys say,
hey, we're going street racing tonight.
I would get out of my bed or home or whatever
and drive an hour and a half down here.
Yeah.
And we'd go street racing until 3, 4 o'clock in the morning.
Yep.
And it was a blast.
Like, 2000...
I don't know, it was either 2010 or 2011.
We street raced like 42 weekends out of the year.
Like, I used to mark it down on a calendar
because I've always been a nerd and kept track of stuff.
42 weekends out of the year.
There was at one point where we...
That doesn't even surprise me.
Yeah.
There was a stretch where we raced 20 weekends on a road.
And it was a blast, whether it was, you know, with my truck
or chief's truck or the Chevelle or the Nova or everything.
Yeah, all of them.
You know, we'd go roll around all over OKC
and wherever we ended up, where we raced.
And sometimes we'd race on the way there and all that.
And it was a blast.
And then, you know, going to the cast days and stuff
with the Nova.
And it was just fun.
But now, man, I don't care about none of it.
You can't put it back in the bag, man.
I just like, you know, I...
Now that my truck's running, I get asked, you know,
hey, we're doing something this weekend,
bring your truck out, whatever, you know, bring the 55.
And man, I just don't care to go.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know.
Like, for one, it's too late and it's too cold.
It is too cold for sure.
Like, I don't know how we used to race with snow on the ground.
We did.
Yeah.
We would go out there.
I mean, I would, you two, shorts, flip flops and a hoodie
and be fine.
Dude, I've shown up to work this week in a hoodie
with a big jacket on and still been a little bit cold.
Yeah.
We got heaters in the shop.
Yes.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't get it.
I don't know.
And, you know, trying to be your therapist here a little bit.
I think maybe we need to go out and do it.
Maybe that's it.
And then see, you know, it is, man.
Yeah.
Look, man, I'm gonna go beat it up one more time
and see if I still care about it.
Yeah, I'm really over.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Maybe you need to go hit it one more time.
See what happens.
Yeah.
Maybe so, like, I don't know because it's probably,
it probably is one of those deals.
I'm sure.
I don't think that you've lost your love for it.
I don't believe that.
Yeah.
I think that we haven't done it in a long time
and it's one of those things that because you're so cold
right now and because it's so late,
Yeah.
you don't, you think that you don't want to do it.
Yeah.
But when you get out there and start doing it,
because I think I'm the same way,
obviously we haven't done it, you know?
That doesn't mean we don't want to.
I still want to and I still want to street race.
And I think that whenever we slow down and we're not trying to run
this pro mod series, this pro mod winter series,
this small tire series, this big tire series,
when we're not doing that, I think that we will.
But as of right now, and it's not just as easy as,
man, you've been off for two months.
Just go out and do it.
No, man.
You know what that takes to get back into that?
Because I'm not going to go out and look dumb.
Whenever I go out, I'm bringing a hammer.
Yeah.
And I'm bringing a big hammer.
So you know what that entails?
That entails two weeks of me going out and testing it.
And getting everything ready.
Because whenever I come out, I'm going to come out correct.
Yes.
And I do believe that I could take the 55 out right now.
And we'd win some and lose some.
And we'd figure it out as we go.
Yes.
But as far as the Nova, that thing's going to be right.
Well, and how the hell are we going to take that car out?
You know what I mean?
I get so, like I get that that thing was pro charged back in the day.
Like when I first met you, that thing was pro charged.
But it had some sort of exhaust on it.
It was still loud.
But man, dude, if we let that Nova off now out on Reno,
dude, we'd get one pass.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
Yep.
How do we ever race those cars again on the street?
It's tough, man, because we tested them
four street outlaws on the streets.
Yeah.
And it was tough.
Yeah.
And that's when it was turbo kind of quiet.
Well, even whenever it had zoomies we tested on the street.
Remember, I had to go last.
Yeah, I do remember that.
The turbo cars would go and then I'd make the pass last.
I remember the first time we took that car out
whenever Jeff built the zoomies for it
and we were over there at climate allegedly
and dude, it echoed.
I get like literal seconds it echoed.
It was it was the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Like I've still got the picture of you doing the first burnout in it.
I probably didn't have a helmet on or nothing.
Hell no, you didn't have a helmet.
You were shorts.
Shorts, flip flops.
He's made some really fast passes there too.
Yeah.
You can usually slow down just enough
that you can still bend that corner.
Yeah, but now I'm sure it wasn't.
I bent that corner at the same time a corner
cop bent the corner coming this way.
But now in the right lane there's a way to do it.
It's the dip's big in the right now.
Bigger than what you're speaking.
I see Ronnie Pace jump up on it.
Man, forget the dip.
He went up over the curb and everything.
Really?
Come back down and kept on driving in his black car.
I got to create something for that burnout.
They almost hit that tree.
Like I don't know it's weird
because you mentioned all that stuff
like the Pro Mod, all the Pro Mod,
the Pro Mod again, the white car, the black car.
I'm excited about all that stuff.
Like I don't really like to get up early in the mornings
but if we're at the track
and we got to be at the track at 7.30 in the morning
I'm up and ready to go and just ready to do it.
It's just different life now.
You know and this is kind of what we do for a living.
This pays the bills.
Yeah.
This and we want to be good at it.
Yeah.
We were the same way with the street stuff.
Yeah.
No, I mean.
And that's the way you got to be to win.
Look at the people that are out just beating it up
and still doing good at that type of stuff
which honestly, man, most everybody's moving towards the track.
Look at the Casey Maxx's and the Billys
and everybody who used to every.
Beater bomb.
They used to be on the street
and then they'd show a little bit of track racing
and then it got to be where
they was on the track and they'd show a little bit of street racing
and now it's all track.
Well, now the whole country is on the street.
There's no cars like Casey Maxx on the street.
I know it's pretty crazy.
Now every once in a while they'll go out.
I saw Billy took his Camaro out on the street.
But he took his Nova too.
Denny and did really good.
But I don't know if it's a real street race, was it?
Well, they hit all the.
No, he took his Nova out on a real street race
and his video got taken down, which leads me to my next thing.
Pretty much everything we do
we get footage for it to put on YouTube
to try to like that's our job.
Like we're content creators.
This is literally street racer channel.
So if we're going out there and we're
expending all this energy and time and effort
to make a video that's just going to get taken down by YouTube.
What's the point?
You know, like other than just going out there
and doing it for the love, which I get you're supposed to do anyways.
Don't be a sellout or whatever the fuck it is they call us.
But yeah, but at the same time, this is what we do for a living.
This is what Billy does for a living.
Yes, like it's a fine line.
And like, I don't know, man.
I'm not I can't put my finger on it.
So I don't know if it's who's running the stuff out there.
I don't know.
I think that's part of it too.
But I do believe that if we get you back out on the street,
you'll love it again.
But at the same time, we can't fall back in love with it yet.
Yeah, because I think at some point whenever we're done playing all this track stuff,
then I'll go back to the street in some form.
I don't know what I don't know what form.
But because like you said, man, if I took the Nova out at any given weekend,
who's out there to race?
Nobody.
And like, you know, probably five.
I don't even care about that.
Like, I, you know, I've lost so much that it is.
I don't care about the people that say, oh, well, you should win.
Well, yeah, we should.
And we're gonna.
You know what I mean?
We will.
Yes.
I don't I don't care about all that stuff.
But how are you going to write like four or five years ago when we were still
street racing the OG on big tires?
I wanted to do something for YouTube because there were still a few big tire cars running
around that that would race.
And I wanted to get out and get it out on the street and race on.
But man, I just don't know that you can race those cars on the street anymore.
And they're, they're, they're, they're fast, man.
Like, and yes, you'd have to slow them down.
But let's be honest, man, we've been four twenties on the street.
Yeah.
What would we go now with the knowledge, the, the knowledge that we've gained,
the technology advancement that's happened in the last 10 or 15 years,
like these cars would be ridiculously fast to go for 20s on asphalt.
It's not even on a concrete road, man.
No, no, unbelievable.
It's a, it's pretty.
People want to complain that we go eighth mile.
Yeah.
Look, there, there's not a road.
There's not a road around here that you could run.
I don't even know that we could run my truck or the 55 quarter mile around here.
No.
Like, sanely, you know, you could, you could on Reno, but still, yeah.
I got a piss.
So I'm not, I don't feel like I'm to the point of Mike G and Billy back in the day,
you know, telling us that we sucked and you need to bring that slow pile of shit to the track
and all that stuff.
I'm just saying at this point in my life, at this very moment, it doesn't interest me.
I still watch everyone's stuff.
Like this weekend, I woke up Sunday morning and seen that old dude won with his truck.
Calvin on the street race that they had this weekend.
Like I still keep up with it all and I, I still think it's cool.
There's just nothing in me right now that wants to go out there and be a part of it.
So, and I'm sure you're right.
I'm sure if I just went, it'd be, it'd be different.
I think if you went and we took your truck, you'd get excited about it again
because I do believe that your truck is, you built that.
And I think it will do everything that you built it to do.
Yeah. I believe that too.
It just got it so late and so cold.
I know. Hey, look, sometimes it's when it's bone chilling,
man, we used to just deal with it.
Yeah.
Not anymore, man.
Like at this point, I feel like we've graduated to, we pick, we can pick and choose
when we go out and it's not whenever it's that cold.
No.
And I understand guys look.
I'm a fair weather racer.
Yeah.
Yep.
We're being little bitches.
Yeah.
I'll take it.
I'll accept it.
I'd much rather go to a street race than Bristol or Indianapolis.
Oh, see, like, I don't know.
I'm just not that way right now.
Yep.
I, but I get it.
I've been there.
Yeah.
We've been there.
Yeah.
Like you want to go down to Dallas and watch Casey Mack, all these other like the big.
Okay.
We're going to watch them at.
No, I'm not doing it.
I'm just saying if they were, I'd rather go to that and then go to XRP and watch whatever.
What's the guy out on the East Coast that street races a lot and
still seems to street race a lot?
New York.
Usually always has some sort of like a SN 95 or something.
Big on the internet.
God, man, I don't know.
I guess that's how I touch I am.
I don't know.
Not turbo John.
I thought it was cool that Dave won this weekend.
Yeah.
Digger die.
He won Digger die.
Yeah.
So I remember, I didn't even realize he was going.
But then I remembered a couple of weeks ago, he was talking to me about it.
Yeah.
And if I'd ever seen the surface and how fast I thought we could go.
And me and you rode down there and looked at it at one time.
And I didn't see any reason that we couldn't eventually go 490s on that surface.
And I guess I didn't go that fast.
I know.
That's that's pretty crazy.
So I don't know.
It looked like that car that he was messing with was running pretty good though.
It's not Nikki Bobby, but it's like that.
Um.
He's either street racing somebody or fighting somebody.
God dang it.
Not Tyler DeSantis.
Tyler no boost.
Yeah.
That's him.
Okay.
Tyler no boost.
That's him.
I follow him and it looks like he's still out.
Yeah.
Racing on the street.
Yeah.
So I mean, I don't keep up with him enough to know
his schedule and stuff.
Yes.
But I still see him out.
You know, I mean, there's still a lot of people do.
I mean, any given weekend here in Oklahoma, you can go get into a street race still like
But what caliber of car?
True street stuff.
Yes.
The 55, stuff like that.
Yep.
Hey, that's the easy stuff to get done.
Like those cars, if the cops come, you just drive them off.
The last one I went to was a trailer race.
We parked at B&R like it was when we drove to that trailer.
Oh, that is not the airport.
Oh yeah.
Oh.
I think they were at Metro Tech.
Oh, really?
God, that used to be one of my favorite roads, dude.
Why?
I kept getting yelled at.
You literally said, dude, B&R just a minute ago.
We said, B&R is an actual company.
We said climate.
Man, whenever I first came around here.
Metro Tech was the thing.
That road is terrible.
That is the worst road.
But it's always been the same.
But the first time I came around here, that place literally
looked like Fast and the Furious.
Yeah, the racers just always beat it up.
I went home.
They would be over in the parking lot drifting.
Yes.
Remember the big parking lot?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Then we all got kicked out of the parking lot.
Yes.
So I went there and then I came home and told my buddies,
like they wanted to know what it was like, right?
Because I got invited to go hang out with you guys
on a street race.
They wanted to know what it was like.
I was like, dude, it was Fast and the Furious.
They like it for real was because all the racers,
they all had the knee on the lines.
They did.
They did.
Like, dude.
And they're all pop, got all our hoods pop over in the parking lot.
It was insane.
Then that one dude came flying around and he missed the curve.
And then jumped the deal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember all that.
They used to do that a lot.
They used to have it a lot.
Yes.
Yeah, I know.
We used to roll race on that road.
That's how I knew that that was that road,
because I asked A, and I said,
so if you turn the opposite way if you were racing,
did the road curve like that and then hit a stop light
right here?
And he was like, yes.
Oh.
No, this is a stop light.
Yeah, this was a stop light.
Maybe it's a different place.
This is like a terrible road.
Like, you don't enter on the road.
Is it four wide?
The road?
Yeah.
No.
Oh, okay.
That's not Metro Tech, then.
Okay, then I'll go.
Metro Tech is four wide.
So I was on a two wide road, right?
The road that you enter in on is two wide,
and it makes a big U.
Oh, that's where Rob works.
Oh, no.
You're on 29th Street, then.
This is a terrible road, but the road was absolutely.
That's the only U I can think of.
And those pictures that I've seen, that's,
I think that's where it's at.
Yeah.
There's a big old hill that you stand on
and watch the racing?
I'm pretty positive.
Behind the road, is there like a turn,
like a bunch of industrial park?
Well, it is an industrial park.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm pretty sure that's where they were.
Okay, yeah, that's not Metro Tech.
God, man, Metro Tech.
There were some good memories there, man.
I remember we were there one time
and Zody was racing somebody.
You remember Zody?
Oh, yeah.
And he did his burnout,
and he did a full freaking 360.
Oh, God, you're going to get to me.
Is that?
Oh, I don't know where that's at.
Is, is that radio?
Is there a loves down the road?
Okay, look, look here.
I'll get a good picture for you.
If they parked it, if they parked at BNR,
then they didn't go all the way over
to Rob's word.
We parked at BNR, right?
Right on the other side there.
I mean, that's probably pretty close.
It's pretty close to BNR.
In summer.
Okay, anyways.
Yeah, anyways, I don't know.
I hate it because the streets raised me.
Like I'm not totally cool with my decision
of not being excited to go out and street race.
And like I said, I think that's just
something that we haven't done it in a long time.
And you forgot.
I think that once we go out and do it,
you're going to be like, man,
I forgot how cool this was.
Yeah, I go to every one of them.
Well, they, you know, the times that we have been out,
they do it different than we used to, too.
Like they get out at like 930 at night,
which I guess helps my case of it being so late.
Well, that would be better.
The last one I went to,
like we, our first round was at like 1030.
It's not bad.
Still cold though.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We'll, we'll eventually go to one.
I don't know.
But this was,
they just not having any.
Yeah.
When's the last time you heard about a big cash days
or something like that?
Oh, a big cash days?
Never.
I mean,
yeah, you just don't.
It's all shootouts with weird buy-ins
and $17 of it goes to security
that let you get busted by the cops and
I don't know.
Anyways, I assume that's probably long enough
for this podcast guys.
I'll let you chew on that
and let you think of me what you want for
not being into the street racing deal
at this point in my life.
No, it is man.
As you get older, priorities change,
but also you don't do everything
that you used to do.
It's just part of,
that's part of what we talked about man,
evolution.
Real quick, that road that I was on was
you're driving actually.
Yeah, so that's going to do it for episode three
of Moron Nation Unfiltered.
Appreciate you guys listening or watching.
If you've made it this far in,
you obviously know where you can listen
or watch at, but it's on Spotify,
it's on Apple, it's on Amazon,
anywhere that you listen to your favorite
podcast including YouTube.
Sorry, sometimes we ramble guys.
That's just, that's part of it.
Yep, but you guys know that.
That's why you're here.
And those of you who did not know that,
hopefully that is why you join us again.
Yep, but appreciate you guys being here
and stay tuned for the next one.
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Yep, so I believe on the next one
we're going to have a guest, right?
Or two.
I think so, I'm not 100% sure,
but I think so.
So, so probably going to have a guest
or two on our next podcast.
So, we'll touch more on that
as it gets closer to time.
But yeah, so thanks for listening guys
or appreciate it guys.
And we'll see you next time.
It was already been a Merry Christmas.
It's fixing to be a Happy New Year.
Yep, Happy New Year.
See y'all next year.
You guys take care.
About this episode
Moron Nation Unfiltered Episode 3 dives into a lighthearted discussion about the hosts' experiences with street racing, their current lives, and the evolution of their interests. They reflect on the transition from street racing to professional racing, share humorous anecdotes about past escapades, and address fan questions and comments. The episode also touches on the challenges of maintaining enthusiasm for street racing amidst their busy schedules and the changing landscape of the racing scene. A mix of nostalgia and candid conversation keeps the tone engaging.
Original notes
In Episode 3 of Moron Nation Unfiltered, we dig into fan questions and comments and get real about something that’s been on my mind for a while.I talk with Shawn about why I don’t care about street racing anymore—and yeah, it honestly makes me a little sad. Not sad enough to go do it again… but still weird to admit out loud.We also answer questions from Moron Nation, talk racing, life changes, and how priorities shift when you’ve been doing this stuff for a long time.No scripts. No filters. Just two morons talking it out.🎙️ Moron Nation UnfilteredNew episodes where racing, life, and random thoughts collide.🤝 Episode SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Kinetic Engineering — the absolute best in the business for custom suspension components!🎧 Available now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, and everywhere you listen to podcasts.
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