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Chevrolet Corvette
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Chevrolet Camaro
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Ford Ranger
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Cadillac El Dorado
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Dodge Charger
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Ford Falcon
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Every team, every topic everywhere, this is Belize.
That's right. It's a holiday weekend. You're all probably sitting around relaxing, maybe even have a beverage in your hand.
Well, welcome to the party, pals. This is Shift and Stare. And we're going to have fun today because it is a holiday week, the fourth of July week, Independence Day, 250 years, Matt.
250. Do you remember the 100th anniversary? No. You don't remember celebrating that? No. Oh, neither do I. I wasn't there for that. Were you there for that? How about the bicentennial?
No. You don't remember 1976? I do not remember 1976. I do. I remember 1976. I remember in 1979 I went to get license plates for my car in Omaha, Nebraska.
And their license plate still said bicentennial year, 1776 to 1976. And I was like, do you got any newer ones? And they go, no, we're trying to get rid of those.
Do you still have it? I do. I was going to say, you do. You'd be surprised if I didn't, wouldn't you? I would be very surprised if you didn't have it.
The only thing would be like, you've sold a car and the plate had to go with it or something. Yeah, but I don't sell the cars. The car's still sitting in my warehouse, man. What are you talking about?
And the plates, what is cool though is the plates say quick one. Oh, yeah. That's cool. And just remember, on a holiday weekend like fourth of July, life's a beach.
Yeah, I see that on your shirt. That's right. Fourth of July, the one holiday that every dog hates.
Oh, no kidding. Do you remember 2020, 2021 when we were in the middle of lockdown and all that baloney? And I mean, it was like a war zone in LA.
I've never seen it like that. For those of you who don't live out here, you cannot imagine, if you can imagine living in a war zone where there's like ordinance going off, it was so crazy.
And it started a week before and it didn't end until like the end of July, but on the fourth of July, there were so many fireworks in the air that it literally felt like we were in some war zone or something.
I think that was the year we were like driving in LA. We were driving on the 405 and coming from like long beach area to LA.
And you're right, you're driving on the 405, which is a little bit elevated and you look off like toward LA, Inglewood, passing Inglewood on the other side of LAX, not the LAX side, obviously, right?
And you just look off in the distance in the middle of the night and it's just explosions all over the place, just wreaking havoc everywhere. It's pretty crazy.
We still get a little bit of that. I don't know why like last night people, I don't know where they were, how far they were, but people are blowing stuff up and it makes it difficult to kind of like sit and leave the windows open.
Like, you know, where I live in an apartment complex, you know, not too far from the water that, you know, you just leave your windows open and stuff goes off in the air, dogs come running, sit on my lap, quivering.
I know. Well, my dogs, they bark. And so they hear it off in the distance and all of a sudden one barks and the other one barks and the other one barks and they're all rah, rah.
And then Charlotte goes crazy and Charlotte gets out the gun. So if I told you Charlotte running around the backyard saying, I've got my gun and I said, Charlotte, you got to quit with that.
And she goes, what do you mean? I go, the neighbors all day here is I've got my gun and she goes, oh my God, I never even thought of that. I bought her a squirt gun and she was trying to get the dogs to learn things.
And so she would go, I've got the gun. And I was like, Charlotte, all day here over the fence is I've got my gun. They think, crazy lady over there with her gun.
She's running around the backyard chasing her animals with a weapon.
Or hear it through, like you said, the windows open and hear it through the window. I've got my gun, you know. And she goes, oh yeah, I should start saying I have, I, she goes, I don't know.
I forget what she said. She had to come up with something, but something else. Yeah.
But hey, we got to take a commercial break. But before we do, I just want you guys to hang around because today's show is all about the Taylor Swift wedding special.
Yeah, that's right. We're going to talk all about Taylor. Oh, no, we're not. Man, I have my notes. This is from my note of talking good times with the girls.
That's another show that's done here in the studio. Grab wrong notes. Let's see here. Oh, here it is. It's a Fourth of July special.
We're going to debate what is, such as, what's the best American car? What is the most American car? Yeah, things like that.
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Okay, we're back. Yeah, that's right. Hey, I don't know if I'm just bad luck or what, but I think I told you that I was going to take a motorhome trip this summer.
Yeah. Yeah, I was excited for you to do that so you can come back and tell me what to do and not to do.
Exactly. Well, the one thing you do is don't plan your trip to where everything's on fire. That's the number one thing.
Okay. We had reservations at these motorhome parks and stuff like that and now we're getting notices that say, you know, please check local news because half of Utah is on fire, Colorado parts of Nevada are on fire, the top of Arizona is on fire.
Guess where we were going, Matt? All of those places. Yeah, we were going to make a big loop right around through all those places and all the, you know, like petrified, I wanted to go to places that my dad would never stop when I was a kid.
Yeah. Like four corners where the four states come together. It's nothing but a tourist trap, but you go there and there's a cement slab right at the geographic region where Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Colorado all meet and you stand there and get a photo.
I just, I've always wanted to go there. So now we're going to, it used to be, hey dad, can we stop? Can we stop? We'd see the billboards driving down the road and you'd go, nah, that's too far out of the way.
So we're going to go too far out of the way and we're going to go there.
Now the point is to go too far out of the way.
Yeah. And like, I want to go to Meteor Crater. Have you ever been there?
No. No, I haven't done this trip. That's why you got to do it.
Yeah. I saw the billboards when I was a kid, Meteor Crater. We're going to stop at the, at the Indian jewelry places on the side of the road. We're going to, we're going to go to all those things, but just do it.
Then you can come back and you can say the four corners was the best thing ever or you know, dad was right. I should have gone.
I'm going to, and I'm going to go on the alien highway, you know, the extraterrestrial highway and out by area 51 and see if I see a spaceship or you know, at least some low flying military jets would be cool.
Yeah.
So, you know, all kinds of stuff, but I got to keep an eye because there's lots of fires going on.
Lots of people, I mean, there was a whole ski resort outside of Salt Lake City. Luckily, most of them are on the west side, which is not good for those people, but there was a whole entire ski resort that got burnt to the ground outside of Utah.
So, it's pretty bad.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Before we get into the meat of the show, excuse me, I thought I was getting the hiccups there.
Have you seen these quad recycles?
Like, no.
Okay.
No.
I was looking on Jalopnik and they said that the new rage over in Europe, like in Italy and France, are quad recycles.
And basically, they're teeny little cars, they're little micro cars.
Uh-huh.
And some of them only are eight horsepower and go like 28 miles an hour, but they've got some new ones coming out that are 20 horsepower and go up to 60 miles an hour.
But they're basically, think of a golf cart, they're electric with a body, but they have really nice bodies on them.
I mean, they're good looking. Fiat has one.
Are you looking at it right now?
I'm trying to look at.
Yeah, the Fiat one is sharp.
It looks like it's got a rollback top.
It'll seat four, they said.
And that's about it.
But I guess Fiat is already bringing, do you remember the Topolino?
Yeah.
Which was a huge drag car.
That's how most people know the Topolino.
But the Fiat Topolino, they're going to try and bring back the United States and they posted a video of some cars wrapped.
They're totally wrapped in white like they do, driving off of a ship and it says, guess who just showed up in the USA?
And they said they're Fiat Topolinos.
And they're going to, what's interesting about them, a little bit of a misnomer.
They say in the headline of the article is the new four seat Fiat will be the cutest way for unlicensed teens to get around.
Well, you don't have to have technically a driver's license, but you do have to go down, apply for like a little permit to drive it and pass a driver's test.
Which was a relief because it's like, I could just see just some kid getting it because they're basically cars.
They're just little.
Yeah, yeah.
Out here, especially in Southern California, I'm not sure how it is in other places, but we got the young kids driving like the electric dirt bikes and the electric.
Yeah, they're crazy.
Not the normal like electric bike.
Like I have an electric bike that, you know, I pedal, right?
Right.
This is like the electric dirt bike.
And they're just all over the streets.
You're right.
Like no lights, no license plate.
Most of them are luckily wearing a helmet.
Right.
Riding wheelies.
And then just going from like the street to jumping on the sidewalk to cutting through the grass.
And it's a little dangerous, I would say.
A little, you think?
There was a video of down in your neck of the woods, Orange County was a motorcycle cop.
Did you see this?
The motorcycle cop was chasing the kid and he had his body cam on, but the cop was just talking kind of like without stressing his voice.
He was just on the PA yelling at the kid going, pull over, stop your bike, pull over.
And the kid, you know, launches off, you know, through a park and through the grass.
And then you hear the cop go, I can promise you I'm a better rider than you are.
And he's following him on the motorcycle.
He's like, you're not going to get away.
He's like, pull over.
And eventually he pulls the kid over.
And he gets on the microphone and he's like, what do you think your parents are going to, you know, think when we see, when they see this.
He's just, he's just like razzling the kid as he's following them.
And eventually the kid gets pulled over.
Right.
And he's like, here's the list of things evading a police officer and.
Riding recklessly.
Yeah.
Danger on the sidewalks and it's just all these crazy things.
So maybe the little car version of that would be, I don't know, worse, better.
I don't know.
I mean, you can't really do wheelies in it and all that stuff.
No, but they'll be drifting around in it.
The fee that you are talking about, I did see.
I'm trying to think of where I was at an auto show.
And I did see it and we walked over it and we're like, look, it's adorable.
It's so small.
But I mean, you think, you know, I had that house.
I was having one on order by now, right?
What's that?
Erin Hagar must have one on order by now.
Exactly.
How is he?
How can he not?
He has to.
It's a fiat.
He's got to.
Well, he won't have a new one on order, but he'll find like the first three wrecked
ones and then he's like, I bought all three of them at once and I'm going to do this and
put this together and cut them up and put it together.
He's like, all I had to do was buy three smashed ones.
I got a really good deal.
I've got to drive out the Texas and stack them on a trailer and bring them back home.
It'll be, it'll be his trip to do it again.
The, you know, I had that house over in Arizona that was in like the gated retirement community
and it was always funny, especially in the summertime.
You would see the kids, you knew they were visiting grandma and grandpa because you'd
see these young kids driving by on the golf cart, you know, with big grins like, oh man,
I'm driving to the pool, you know, and, and you knew they were just like digging it because
they could drive around.
You know, now we'll see like kids in these fiat's, you know, have, have some air ride
on them, have them, you know, aired out and just, you know, cruising by with the stereo
going.
You should build one for the SEMA show.
I would love to.
If Fiat wants to send me one, I will.
The, I want that 20 horsepower, 60 mile an hour one though, you know.
Okay, we wanted to talk today with the fourth of July, a little fun debate about, you know,
American automotive world and let's, let's get right into the very first one.
Matt, what do you think is the most American car?
And you can take this from your opinion or if you were to go around the world, what do
you think people would think is the most American car?
Yeah, so I have, I have two thoughts on this, right?
So we're saying car, but we mean vehicles, right?
No, we say car.
Okay.
Because we're going to ask you later, what's an American truck?
Well, that, those are easy.
Yeah.
You got to go with Corvette.
You know what?
I'm with you on that one because that is the first one that came to my mind because there's
so many great American cars, but the Corvette is quintessentially it's American.
It's, it's known around the world as a, as a sports car that you go to Switzerland and
you see them on the street.
You go to Europe anywhere.
You go to Germany and guys like, oh, a Chevrolet Corvette.
Yes.
You know, and I mean, come on.
It's the car that the astronauts all drove, right?
Well, that's the thing is like you can, you can go with something like a Camaro or Mustang,
but the Corvette to me was always sort of built around Americana and often marketed around
Americana and for me that, that's an easy one.
I'd say Corvette for sure.
All right.
So we're in agreement.
We made it easy.
We didn't have much of a debate.
Okay.
What's the most American motor?
And I don't mean the guys who made the Javelin.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not American motors.
I was thinking about this as, as enthusiasts, we can think of the coolest engine out there
and the things that, that are the most talked about, but they're rare.
But when you, when you come down to it, just like small block Chevy, just a Chevy 350,
it's just like the most American, it's the meat and potatoes that kind of started, not
really started at all, but kind of made it like the mainstream.
Like you can, I know it's kind of like that Mac versus PC debate.
You can go, Oh, I like the Mac, but it's more expensive.
And it's a, you know, more of a, a complex piece where, you know, the PC is generalized
as every other computer that runs, you know, the windows.
Now you have me confused because when I'm debating that Mac is the only way to go.
So it's me too.
But, but I would say that the small block Chevy.
Now you can go, Oh, listen, now at these days it's LS or it's LT or it's whatever,
but it's all derivative of, but I have a debate in my head and you're going to,
you're going to be like, Oh, wait a minute, Brad's not going fully Chevy because,
I mean, you could say push rod V eight and make it more generic.
Flathead V eight.
I mean, when we got to the flathead V eight, when you think of the cars of the 30s that
had those first flathead V eights, cars finally went fast.
They didn't just putt down the road.
They literally had acceleration.
You think of the movies of Bonnie and Clyde and stuff where they're running from the cops
and, and I mean, those were high performance motors back then and they took us to a whole
another era where the, it was much more reliable.
It was much more and Ford really did so much.
So I almost think it's a tie.
I think it's a tie between the Chevrolet, Chevrolet small block, but it's predecessor,
the flathead Ford, which in many cases was yanked out to have a small block put in its place.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause it wasn't making the power.
But yeah, look, you start thinking about when we really, really started to celebrate engines
with things like hot rod magazine and car craft or whatever.
It's like small block Chevy was just the platform was inexpensive.
You can basically get it for free these days.
You can go to a junkyard or something.
You probably start with a block and a set of heads and then start building them there.
It's like, it's just the idea of small block Chevy.
Facebook marketplace has Chevrolet small blocks and Chevrolet big blocks that are either rebuilt
and like brand new or hot rotted where somebody's pulled it out of their car and put an LS in
and nobody wanted it.
So they're like on there for 500 bucks.
I'm like, wait, this thing's got a manifold.
It's got headers.
It's got a cam, you know, it's like, you know, makes you start thinking, why would I put
an LS in?
I can get one for 500 bucks, you know, that's a lot rotted.
I mean, you certainly could.
And if you're, you know, you're knowledgeable and you can replace some things like valve
seals and springs and stuff, you could probably get something pretty decent that's going to
work.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Real cheap.
Okay.
Let's switch a little bit from vehicle for a minute or drive train to experience.
What do you think the most American drive is?
Like driving experience?
The most American drive.
I mean, you got to look at Route 66, right?
Yeah, you have to look at Route 66.
I feel like that has probably more t-shirts and posters and songs and everything after
it than any other, you know, for us, you know, the PCH.
What about Main Street USA?
There's lots for that.
Yeah, there is.
Where is it?
It's everywhere.
It's everywhere.
Well, what about like, you know, Sunset Boulevard or, you know, Hollywood Boulevard or Manhattan?
Yeah, sure.
So iconic streets but shitty to drive on.
True.
Very true.
I mean, Route 66, the first one came to me.
I mean, have you ever driven Route 66 coast, I mean, from the coast to Chicago or the other
way?
No.
Parts of it but not.
Well, right now is the time to do it because with the 100th anniversary, there's lots of
places that have been restored and opened up that, gosh, I'm just on the brink of getting
hiccups.
I apologize if you hear me kind of like, and so Route 66 but you're right.
You talk to, you know, I go to Europe on business or something and people go, oh, I want to
come to America and go Route 66 and I'm like thinking, I've never even driven Route 66.
I think more Europeans have driven the entire Route 66 route than we have, you know.
Yeah.
And because they do it.
We have the PCH.
I've driven parts, you know.
To do the PCH up the coast to go from, you know, San Diego or Orange County or LA up to,
you know, Monterey or whatever, that's a nice drive.
Oh, it's beautiful.
Yeah, the coast and, you know, PCH.
But Route 66 has to be the quintessential American, you know, route that people think
of worldwide.
All right, Matt, what's the most American truck?
Well, you got to say F-150.
Do you have to say that?
I would.
I have to say that.
What about International Harvester?
No.
It's got international in the name, not American.
Is it an American harvester?
Is it?
I think it's international.
It's IH.
Yeah.
Okay, what about the Studebaker?
No.
Okay, the Chevy C-10.
I like it, but not the most American.
You know what F-150 has going for it?
It comes to mind.
You know what the F-150 has going for it?
It's been like an F-150 for its whole existence.
Yeah.
It wasn't a C-10, then a C-1500, then a, you know.
But no, it is, it's by far the best selling truck.
It's known worldwide.
I've had, it's funny, German friends who've come and they want to get a picture next to
an F-150 because it is so big and so massive compared to what they have on the roads over
there.
And they're just like, it's so big, it's like American food.
It is.
That's what one of them said to me.
You should have them stand next to my 95 F-150 and my 22 F-150 and see how once the size
of a Ford Ranger is today.
Yes.
The size of what a Super Duty used to be.
We had to find for my friend from Germany, we had to find a, we found like a 73.
You know, when they were huge and big and chrome and, you know, all the stuff, it was,
it was amazing.
It was just such a, such a culture shock in a way because it was, you know, the way they
look at things.
And when he said it's big like American food, everybody from other countries always comments
on how big our portions are here, you know.
People from Australia especially.
It's, it's funny because you, if you search or look at AI and you say, how many country
songs mentioned an F-150 and it'll say, we don't know.
There's too many.
There's too many.
There's too many.
Yeah.
Too many to figure out.
The, you know, see now you got me wondering, how many are there, Matt, you know, I mean.
I just asked and said there was too many, too many to count.
Actually, it said there was no like database that has it all written down, but you'd think
somebody knows.
Some point, someone's going to document it because I'm sure there's different variations.
Somebody may say an F-150, somebody may just say Ford trucks.
Somebody just say truck, you know.
I asked chat GPT to see, you know, and it says there's dozens of songs that explicitly
mentioned the Ford F-150 by the, no kidding.
Oh, here's an interesting.
So when I asked it, how many country songs mentioned Ford truck, not F-150?
It says there's no official tally, but data shows that trucks appear in roughly 6.25%
of modern country songs.
How many?
Actually, 60.2.
No, six and a quarter percent.
But interesting is it says Chevrolet is the most frequent brand, and then Ford is a close
second.
So this, so your question is interesting because I associate Ford truck, Ford F-series, Ford
trucks as the most American, but Chevrolet truck seems to be the most used in country
songs.
Well, how about Route 66?
Chat GPT says that several hundred songs either mentioned Route 66 cities along the route
or are directly inspired by the mother road, which is, of course, the tagline for that.
And it's the most famous is Get Your Kicks on Route 66.
And it says there were songs by Nat King Cole, Chuck Berry, The Rolling Stones, Ray Charles,
Bing Crosby, Depeche Mode, John Mayer, Brian Setzer, and Glenn Fry.
OK.
Yeah.
You know, there you go.
How many of them drove the whole thing?
Of those people?
Yeah.
Let's hold on.
I mean, they say the only one that actually is documented as driving the entire Route
66 is Ray Charles.
By himself.
I mean, in theory, everyone's on a tour bus and probably driving all over parts of it
at one time or another.
Yeah.
And then they make enough money, then they just fly all over.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Well, they go from a van to a bus to then a really nice bus, then a jet, then later
in their careers, they're back to a bus.
Right.
Now they're just streaming.
They're just on streaming services.
I talked to one guy.
He goes, yeah, man.
He goes, he's your buddy Michael.
And I go, OK.
And this guy was with a band that was huge in like the 80s and early 90s.
And he goes, he goes, yeah, now I'm back on a bus tour bus.
He goes, but I know guys that are in vans.
So he goes, that went from tour buses to vans because I went from a jet back to a van.
But it's like, it's all relative, I guess.
But did you talk about Ray Charles driving Route 66?
Did you see that thing on Instagram where Stevie Wonder is at some award show and the
girl up on the dais, she was up there and she goes, I just want to
give a big shout out to Stevie Wonder.
You know, he's my man.
You're the best.
And she points at him and he just without any hesitation, he like points right back
at her and looks at her like that.
And this guy that was doing the thing, he goes, I knew he wasn't.
I knew he could see.
He was just so reactive.
It was like, you know, somebody that would have seen her do it.
Yeah.
All right.
Back to America.
Okay.
Back to America.
Who is the most associated with automobiles who have been an American president?
Wait, you're going to say, say Trump, I know, because he had Tesla's
at the White House recently.
All right.
So you're saying which American president do you think of and you think, oh, cars.
He liked cars.
Yeah.
I'm not going to let you go with the easy one, which was Taft.
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I can't really think of which president.
Okay.
I can only think of one to be honest with you.
Yeah.
It was Joe Biden because he was always talking about his Corvette.
Remember?
Well, because he was the first president to like show up on like Jay Leno's garage or
something like that.
Yeah.
I mean, but who really was like a car person?
I don't know.
But Nixon was the only one who actually really was out there, you know, he built a pro street
car.
It was a limo though.
So can you imagine like some president going, okay, I'm taking a couple of days up because
I'm going to go work on my car and get it ready for the Grand National Roadster show.
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
That'd be cool if we had somebody like that.
We've had some senators and congressmen like that out here in California.
I know.
Sure.
Yeah.
It's been a lot.
Okay.
They probably wouldn't let a sitting American president crawl under the car with jack stands,
you know, or even on a lift.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, for what it's worth and for our industry and hobby, Trump did just sign the right to
repair executive order.
He did.
He did.
A significant thing that Seema has been trying to push, allow us as owners to work on our
own cars, which they wanted to take away.
They wanted to seal them puppies up and I mean, they still do.
If you have a super car nowadays, you know that you might be able to look at that motor
through a little window, but you really can't access it.
Oh, I know.
Yeah.
Some of them, you get like there's no hood or anything or anything to open.
It's just there.
Yeah.
Can't even check the oil.
It takes something out of it.
Yeah.
Right.
There's just a light on the dash tells you if there's oil in the car.
Right.
Hey, you're low.
Yeah.
Okay.
What American car represents freedom?
I got one in my head.
I got one in my head.
Got one in my head right now.
Car or any vehicle?
Car.
Car, man.
I'm just thinking of a car.
Yeah.
I don't know what to think about that.
I'm going to go have some bananas and peanut butter.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, you're thinking like Cadillac.
Cadillac.
Think of it.
I mean, how many movies around the world, again, like the Corvette, people around the
world for the longest time when they thought success, they thought Cadillac, man.
It was up to the 80s, really.
In the 80s, it kind of changed to Mercedes, and then after that, you know, kind of blossomed
all over.
Yeah.
But it was, I can remember my parents talking about, oh, see Bob down the street, he got
a new Cadillac.
Got a new Cadillac.
And that was what a lot of people, and that's how it's represented in the movies, too.
Like, some guys skimming from the mob, and all of a sudden, he's got a brand new Cadillac,
and they find him shot dead, or the guy in Vegas where the mob blew him up in his Cadillac.
It was all these things that Cadillac-
Yeah, Casino.
Casino.
Yeah, Casino.
Not Vegas.
Why would I associate Vegas with Casino?
But, and when they would show people, and you think of Elvis, and you think of Cadillac,
you think of all these stars, what's that one famous Cadillac with all the silver dollars
glued to it, and the steer horns on the front, was that Roy Rogers?
You can't think of that?
No.
It used to be at the Peterson in the basement of the Peterson.
It's a real famous country cowboy star, and it was pretty crazy.
The, I think it was a Cadillac, El Dorado?
For me, growing up, the most famous Cadillac was Boss Hog.
There you go.
Okay, see, there's another era.
Dinks of hazard, and always, like when you're talking about like sort of freedom, like to
do stuff, and you think of big Cadillac, it's got to be convertible, though.
Well, it doesn't have to be convertible.
Come on.
Well, that's more a little bit more free, right?
It's more of an open road.
What's your favorite Cadillac?
I don't have a favorite.
You don't have a favorite Cadillac?
No.
I always liked the El Dorados, like the 70s era El Dorados.
They were just kind of cool.
But you know what, another car that I always liked was the 80s era, what was it?
It was that squared up one.
It was kind of, it was a smaller Cadillac, something to Ville, not a sedan to Ville.
I don't know.
It was cool.
Snoop to Ville?
Snoop to Ville.
Cadillac, Snoop to Ville, man, see, why didn't they do that?
I think he did make one.
I think he did make one himself.
He made his own like Snoop to Ville or had like a West Coast Customs or something make
it for him.
Of course, West Coast Customs made something like that, right?
Yeah, that's that's too bad.
All right, when are we?
Sub-Ville, the Ville.
God, I love Google.
I mean, I would I would be sitting here hanging on the edge of every show having to do a big
compilation of things I couldn't think of later.
OK, so Cadillac, what American car changed history?
And I don't mean just here in the US, but changed history.
I've got two.
You said when you said Seville, American vehicle.
When you're saying Seville, though, I think of the the dad in the chipmunks.
His name is Dave, Dave Seville.
Dave, why do you think of that?
I don't know.
I just think of the last name, Seville.
And I just think of the guy from the chipmunks movie.
What were you?
What were those guys doing?
I can't I can't think of the words.
Yeah, that's Alvin.
I watched this theater.
I watched this documentary over the weekend
about why cartoons aren't on Saturday mornings anymore and why they ended.
Do you know why?
I mean, remember growing up, it was get your head
in front of the the TV on Saturday morning.
And it was just hours of cartoons, you know, cartoons.
And I don't do that anymore.
And no.
And they said the reason is because in the
in the 70s, the FTC.
Change the regulations on blocks of advertising
for toy companies and cereal companies.
They couldn't do these concentrated blocks of advertising.
So without that revenue, there wasn't any reason to make cartoons.
So all these cartoons went away.
Yeah, the poor guy.
What's wrong with sugar, sweets and toys,
especially that, you know, like lawn darts and stuff.
You know, that was a good old days.
All right.
So wait, what was your what was the next one?
Or when do we take a break?
Right after this question.
OK.
What American car helped to change history?
I have two in mind.
A American vehicle, I should say.
Yeah, American vehicle that changed history.
I mean.
I mean, we should have ads on Saturday morning for this.
This is what kids need.
C4.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I I mean.
I kind of feel like.
The Model T.
I mean, we had a model A, but the Model T all of a sudden was just.
It may be the average man could now afford a vehicle.
Yeah. And it was available to the masses.
But I had another one in mind.
I had the Model T down before that same exact reason.
But another one that helped change the course of history is the Jeep.
Yeah, because without the Jeep, World War Two may, you know,
I mean, seriously, may not have been one because it gave mobility
to troops in any place they were at.
And and and you can see the longevity of it.
Model T is not around anymore, but the Jeep is.
But think of think of a Model T.
So Model A comes out.
Or Model T comes out and it's 1908.
And for.
For years, that's what you got.
If you can even afford to get anything, they sold 15 million.
Model T.
Like before, like now we think of cars and we comparison shop cars
and we find the deal and we all rely on them.
And but you got to go that you got to sell that behavioral shift
going, get off your feet, horse, get in the car, spend the money,
you know, and and it rides terribly.
And it's there aren't gas stations everywhere.
And yeah, it's like they're really weren't even roads.
You know, it's just mud pass.
Wooden wheels with, you know, yeah, dirt and and but 15 million sold.
I know. I mean, over a long time, like 20 years.
But or my grandpa has pictures of him picking his up at the dealership.
It's bright red with white interior.
Was it? He did not get a model.
Oh, he got a Model P.
That's right. Yeah.
Whenever he got, he got the T move version.
No, but no, it's amazing.
You look at.
How the, you know, the roads were and if you look at any of the old footage,
there's some old footage where it's all shaky and rocky.
But I mean, it was deep ruts of mud, like two feet deep was a road.
And you really got to respect the people that tried to, like,
go anywhere outside of town, because it was even, you know, worse than that, you know?
And yeah, you had to carry jugs of gas with you.
It'd be it's it's like trying to take a
electric field today on a on a long road trip, you know, I mean, it's right.
Yeah. But so yeah, I think but you go to the Jeep.
The Jeep was do you are you old enough to remember
in the back of magazines that they were these paper things that were bound
and you bought them on a newsstand.
Well, you may not even know what a newsstand is.
But no, in the backs of magazines, like Hot Rod and stuff like that,
where it would say buy a Jeep for like 100 bucks.
And it was Army surplus.
And I remember hearing stories.
I always was like, oh, man, I want to buy one of those.
I know they're stripped.
They're just like a basic Army Jeep.
But the the rumor was that you got it.
And it was either packed in grease or sawdust because they were meant.
They were the leftover ones that were never shipped overseas.
And what they used to do is they would bring them off all these crates
off the ships and they would assemble them.
And it was basically a body with a motor and stuff in it.
But you had to put the rear end under it.
You had to put the wheels, tires, bolt the windshield on and and all this stuff.
And I remember hearing like, you know, yeah, I got it.
And it's been packed in grease since the forties.
You know, I mean, it's like.
But it was like, how cool would that be?
You like buy a Jeep for 100 bucks and have to put it together?
And, you know, how do you get all the grease off it, though?
You know, and that's right.
I mean, there's there's not much there.
It's just the grease or just soap and water because like, what are you?
Yeah, are you worried about electronics?
Like, what are you worried about?
And nothing, nothing was made to withstand anything.
I guess you just drive it repeatedly through the car wash, you know,
then you let the brushes do the work, you know?
Of course, because you'd have to wear like a, you know,
like a hazmat suit or something like a hazmat suit or or like like you were
going to go in the ocean and wear a wet suit, a full wetsuit, you know,
and have like a diver's mask on and everything like that'd be awesome.
Going through, so, but anyway, so the Model T and the Jeep.
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If we were to build a Mount Rushmore
of automotive history, who would we put on it?
Okay, well, my question would be, now you're talking about automotive history,
but are you still saying American history?
Yes, American automotive history, because this isn't the, this is the Fourth of July in America.
Come on, you commie.
Right. All right, so you got to have Henry Ford up there.
Henry Ford.
Oh yeah, you and your Ford stuff, always the Ford stuff.
Well, because you think about it and you go,
when you go back to the beginning to the industrialism and go,
what else did they build and what were some of the names, you think of like,
maybe you think of Dodge Brothers, but you don't think of them as significant as a Henry Ford.
He's like, I'm going to build cars, but I'm going to build the city and I'm going to build the power
plant. I'm going to build a way to do all the stuff and people are going to get paid.
So there are some pretty significant names in the space.
What about Dick Teague or Roy Chaplin?
I just don't think they're...
Do you know who they are?
It's names that people, yeah, I was going to say, they're not quite the names that people know.
But then he started American motors, American motors.
American motors.
I mean, you think a bit about Shelby, but Shelby was also like, listen,
we did the documentary, Shelby American and a bit of a player, a bit of a salesman,
certainly had some level of success and built some iconic cars, but
didn't necessarily build an entire industry per se, right?
No, Henry Ford definitely. He's a shoe-in. He's right there, man. He's the Lincoln, right?
He's the Lincoln.
I kind of think like a Leia Coca could be up there.
I was going to say Leia Coca. Another one I was going to throw out there was
Zora Arkov Duntov, because we talked about the Corvette. He's the creator of the Corvette.
I think Henry Ford, Carol Shelby, Leia Coca and Zora. You throw those guys up there.
Yeah. This is a good question for everybody else listening.
Yeah. Who do you think should be on there?
Because it's the kind of thing where you go, which people, designers, engineers,
racers, executives that are more influential and more Americana to you, the individual, right?
Some people may go, you know what? John Force should be up there, like what he did for drag racing,
now it's a motorsports thing and not necessarily a car brand thing, but
a guy like that is significant in that field.
And I know most of you are going to probably throw up on our Instagram and like that,
Matt DeAndre and Brad Fanchop, because we've influenced you so much and we've done so much.
Let's just, yeah, that's a given. Okay, let's just leave it at that. We'll just
go. But no, it's interesting. I mean, there's so many people, but there's those names that
instantly, like, you know, Henry Ford and Leia Coca. Excuse me. I have a lot of problems today.
Brad's having issues living. Gosh, it's just survive.
Can't survive one podcast. I know, it's amazing. Okay, here's a fun one.
This is a personal preference, personal opinion. What do you think was the best car on a TV show?
Oh, I see. And based on a previous answer, I think I already know what you're going to say.
Yeah, well, that was my first thought. I wouldn't say it was the best car, but you mean the car
on the show as a character on the show? Yes, the car on the show. Sure. For me growing up.
I know, you were thinking of Starsky and Hutch because it was a Ford Torino, right?
No, no, actually, so listen, my initial thought was Dukes of Hazard and the Charger. But honestly,
for me, because I was younger when that show came out. So it was iconic to me, but not
during my ages of like teens, you know, early teens. So for me, I mean, American car for sure,
but car in general, Miami Vice Testarosa, but not American. Well, technically it was probably a
Hodgepodge Corvette. That's not an American car. Come on. It was a Hodgepodge Corvette that they used
as the stunt car. But Dukes of Hazard, that was my show. That was my show growing up.
I don't have a single one. I mean, yeah, Miami Vice would have been, if we just said
best car on a show, boom. But you know, Canon had a pretty bitchin' Mark VII Lincoln that he drove.
And Mannix had that Challenger that he drove, I think it was. And you know, the Beverly Hill
Billies, they had a pretty badass car on there too. But you know, who really had a really cool
one was the Munsters with their dragster. Okay, not the Coyote X from Hardcastle and McCall.
Another one, there you go. That was pretty cool too. I don't think it was technically American.
I think it was a Volkswagen Beetle made up to be a little bit like a McLaren.
But it was a body kit that you could get here in America. I mean, there were so many TV show
cars. I mean, you start looking at them. It's hard to really put it down. I mean,
how about the Monkeys? What about their car? The Monkey Mobile? The Monkey Mobile based out of a
GTO, right? I mean, that thing was pretty, it was crazy, but it was pretty cool. And you know,
you think of that or, well, Get Smart drove a couple different things. I'm trying to think of
other things that might have, you know, I put into the thing at Edmunds. I asked for TV cars,
and they're giving me all these movie cars. You know, the Green Hornet. Okay, there's one.
Well, like how about the Mystery Machine? For me, it still comes down to the General Lee.
Monster's car was pretty cool too. You know, I talked about their dragster.
Yeah. Generally though, like you can't have one now. It got canceled or whatever.
What got canceled? The General Lee, because you can't have the flag or something.
Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay, wait a minute. What about the Batmobile?
Okay, wait. It's a good contender right up there with the General Lee.
Yes, but not a car that you wanted, right? Because like...
What do you mean? I wanted to be able to shoot missiles and throw flames and...
But you never looked at the Batmobile and you're like, oh, I really got to get a Lincoln or whatever
the hell it was. The Mercury, I believe. Yeah.
Well, I know. General Lee just comes to mind. It's almost just so...
Just so expected, you know. But it is. I've looked at so many documentaries about it
and stuff like that. Do you know how many chargers were destroyed for that car?
I mean, for that show. Oh, God. It's depressing to look up. I know.
It's like so many, so many. But okay, you ready to move on to another one? Yeah.
All right, we'll do that as soon as I find my notes. Hold on. It's under the Taylor Swift notes.
It's under the Taylor Swift notes, yes. Okay.
I'm still looking for my notes here. I got them mixed up with something else.
What's going on? I know. It's just one of those days.
I think that was all of them on the list.
No, I had a couple more. That's why I was trying to find the best ones.
They weren't as good. That's why they didn't make the list, man. Like, you know,
greatest must car of all time. Most overrated muscle car. Most underrated muscle car.
What must car would you buy for $50,000? I threw some stuff out there.
That's right. We went through a good list. What kind of racing? How about this one?
What type of racing is the most American? Is it drag racing?
It's drag racing. Is it what? Is it or is it stock car racing?
It could be stock car racing, but for me, I don't know. This is my feeling, my personal opinion,
is I enjoy drag racing more than I enjoy stock car racing.
Well, I'm with you there. For me, I'm going to go with drag racing.
Got to be honest with you, though. I had a lot of good Friday evenings and Saturday evenings
at Sunset Speedway watching those dirt track cars with a big 44 ounce beer, watching those cars
go around the track and I don't even like beer and I remember it fondly. So it was good. It was
good times. What would be a car? Now, this one's off the, I mean, I'm just creating this question
as we're going, Matt. If you were asked to be in the Huntington Beach Fourth of July parade,
and by the way, which is the largest Fourth of July celebration this side of the Mississippi,
for those of that didn't know, I found that out on the news the other day. What car would you
like to parade in the parade with? I mean, it's a tough one because there's so much more like
when I own the car. If I'm just going to drive a car in the parade, you can have anything. It
doesn't have to be what you own. You can just go to the Fourth of July parade warehouse. It's
got to be a big American convertible. I think Lincoln might be kind of interesting. I think
the big Lincoln. You mean like a four door suicide door Lincoln? Yeah, what is that, like 65? Yeah,
like 65, 64. Yeah. What was the show on Netflix that they drove that that was so big for a while?
It was Entourage. Entourage, yes. Yeah, was it Netflix? It was like HBO or? Yeah, it was HBO.
That was back when HBO was the Netflix of the day. I think I would go with the Cadillac.
I would go with the Cadillac. See, you're going with the Ford product. I'm going with the GM product.
But you can't be like a tri-five or Chevy convertible, 57 Chevy convertible. What a great
parade car, by the way, like stock, not hot. And Matt, you did a great segue into
talking about that. The reason we were late today recording the show is because I had to
restart my computer twice because I was watching an old video from the late 60s. It was a black
and white video of Joey Chitwood and his stuntmen, his automotive stuntmen. And if you haven't ever
looked at any of that, it's fun. Look back, Joey Chitwood. Now, he spells his name weird. It's like
J-O-E-I. I think it is. J-O-E-I. And it's Chitwood. And he was like the big stunt car driver of the day.
And they would tour around and do things like that. But he was hired by an insurance company
to do this video, back then it was actually film, of common car accidents and recreate them
to show why people should drive safe and courteously. And when you said you can't beat a
tri-five Chevy, well, actually he shows in this exact film how you can because he wrecks more
beautiful tri-five Chevys that are in perfect condition, I mean, for no reason. Like, yes,
this man, this is what happens if somebody passes on a two lane without having the right,
you know, and he goes, it could drive somebody off the road and he just drives this car off the road
and flips it and over and I'm like, that was a beautiful car. And then he goes, and here's what
happens if you don't stop at stop signs and he t-bones another, a 55 gets t-boned by a 56,
you know, you're just like, oh man, these cars are just so nice and they're just,
they were just throw away for him at that time. But as a stunt man, not the type of car we wanted
to like roll over off the side of the road or three ways, just like, I was thinking the same
thing. And all this guy had on was just like a, an old fiberglass helmet, you know, and, and he,
and they show him and Joey's getting ready for the stunt and they just show him buckle his belt
buck, you know, his seat belt buckle, you know, it's like no, no harness, no, there's not any
roll cages in these cars and he's out flipping them and t-boning them. He did in this video,
he does a 15 mile an hour head-on collision with another stuntman. And I mean, these cars
are smashed up to the firewall and I'm thinking, what happened to their legs? You know, I mean,
it's like, you just, you go, man, it was a different time for sure. And he does it all while
smoking a cigar with the gas going everywhere and everything. But don't surprise me. But I mean,
these cars didn't have fuel cells. They didn't have any of that. They just went out and did it.
It was, but check it out. It's a, look up Joey Chitwood stuntman or stunt driver and you'll
find all kinds of old videos that he made. It was, they did some cool stuff. You know,
they were the guys driving on two wheels and they would do a lot of car jumping. They would do a lot
of, where they were two or three cars, bumper to bumper driving, you know, in unison and going
over these ramps where they would throw them all over the place. And it was, it was precision
driving. And when you think they're on bias ply F 78 tires and the suspension back then wasn't that
great. It was, it was very American and done at a lot of state fairs and things like that.
That's why we can talk about it on today's 4th of July special.
When we were doing the documentaries over at Adam Krohler's place, various documentaries,
and we found all this crazy footage of like old stuff, but also like Dick Trickle, which is yep
greatest name ever. Worst name ever. His parents must have hated it. Dick Trickle. And all these
guys just like, like, crewing on a car while smoking a cigarette. And Dick Trickle's like,
like getting into his car with a cigarette. There's, because there was Winston Cup, man.
They got paid. Yeah. There was the old picture of, I've got the guy's name Bonetto. And he's like
drifting like a old, old, old open wheel car, like looks like a, like an old Formula One car or
something. Yeah. But it looks like a little, you know, bomber, right? Like, and with this like
leather helmet and goggles, the goggles aren't on. He's drifting it sideways. He's got a cigarette
in his mouth. There's this dude. I go to that vintage BMX race called Dirty Fest.
And there's this one guy. He's called Camel Joe. And his uniform is like, he's got racing pants on,
but they're like the old, that kind of yellowy color of the Camel cigarettes. And then he's got
an old 70s style windbreaker that he wears that says Camel on the back. And I think it's Camel GT
and it's got a big Camel. And he races with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. And he's,
he's out there, man. He's riding his bike and he's fast too. And he's like smoking all these
guys literally and figuratively. And it's, it's awesome. It's very American because we can talk
about that on today's show because it's the fourth of July special. Okay. I'm going to bring you back
to Joey Chitwood, J-O-I-E, Chitwood, C-H-I-T-W-O-O-D. And that video I was talking about is called
Hell Bent for Safety. So pretty cool, pretty cool.
You want to, you want to try one more? What, what were we on when I, oh, what, what would be your
parade car? What would be your parade car? What, the last question of the day, what American car,
your neighborhood, not mine, not in general, your neighborhood, if you pulled in
on fourth of July and everybody was standing out there barbecuing and stuff, what car would
make everybody turn their heads? What American car? What American car would make everyone turn
their heads in, in my neck of wood? Could be modern vintage, could be anything.
So I, I usually go to a friend's house for fourth of July. You do, you do, and you cook some meat.
And we do. And, but everybody that shows up there is like in the automotive industry,
they're like engineers and they've all got aftermarket cars, they've all got, you know,
something, right, in the garage projects. So it's, it's a little more difficult to impress
all of those guys. So for that career. Especially since they're Toyota guys too, you know.
Some of them, yeah. Although most of the Toyotas are made in the USA. So.
Oh, that didn't count. Okay, so
a car that I'm thinking of
that would impress them that was technically
built in America, if I'm right. Oh, we're gonna call it built in America.
A California company. They made the Vector. Oh, the Vector, yes. Do you remember that?
Yeah, it was built in America. It was built in Huntington Beach, I believe, or, or Redondo Beach,
one of the beach cities. Yeah. We used, you know how much I remember it? We built wheels for the
Vectors at Boids. That does not surprise me. Yes. We built the wheels for it. Now, it had a
Lamborghini engine for a while, but then it went to some kind of V8 like racing engine
that they put into it. But the Vector, kind of cool, it's American. It was kind of the first
like. I think it went to a Falcon V12, didn't it? Which was an American made motor.
Did it have the 12? I think it started with the Lamborghini Mura 12. Oh, that's what all those
Lamborghini Mura shells in the back of the shop were. The Diablo. It had a Diablo V12 in it.
And then it had, I forgot what the eight cylinder was.
But anyway, it's an American supercar. It's funky. And I remember it.
I remember it coming up in a movie. It was,
I kind of think of the name of the movie without like Googling it or whatever. I want to say it
was Wesley Snipes and Sean Connery, something sun, something with the sun in it.
Was that the one where they were escaping from Alcatraz? No, no, Wesley Snipes.
It'll come to me. him. It's coming to him right now. Right now. It's sun.
I'm going to have to look it up because I don't want to get it wrong now.
He's going to have to look it up, folks. I mean, while you're looking rising sun,
it was called Rising Sun, right? And I don't even remember what the movie was about. And
Wesley Snipes played, who was in it? Wesley Snipes and Sean Connery. So Wesley played Sean Connery's
sun and he was the Rising Sun, right? Yes. I think it had to do with a woman was
murdered and they were investigating the murder and it led to some big scandal thing. And
one of the bad guys drove the vector, which if I remember correctly, blew up or something,
something happened to it in the movie. And but I remember as a kid watching the movie and going,
oh, there's a vector because I knew what it was. Nobody else did except for people in the movie.
Well, I'm watching it right now as we talk and it was bright red.
And you know what it was parked next to in the parking lot?
An American Cadillac convertible. Okay. And the bad guy was an Asian guy here.
Yeah. Yep. And he's getting in. It's got our wheels. There's our Boyd wheels right there, man.
Okay. Is vector W8? Yes. So, all right. Well, I'm going to tone it way back. I'm going to tone
it way back. Listen, if I showed up in a vector, that would be the bee's knees, man. You would.
You could show up in a vector a lot of places and, you know, have people, you could go to the
Malibu cruise and people would take note. Okay. Do you remember like the digital dash it had?
And it was like kind of off the side and had like a little like one color graphic of the car?
I was going to say it was like when you think of old 80s movies, that's what the, you know, like...
It's just like amber colored. Yeah, it was like one color and like a digital alarm clocks.
Yeah. You know. All right. On my street, if I pulled in,
any like 67 to 69 Camaro convertible that was just like in perfect condition,
the guys on my street would all be like, oh my God. So, you've got a lot of old timers on your
street. I do. I do. Actually, they're not. They're all younger than me. But when I have my garage
open and they see my 69 Z28 sitting in there, they're like, oh my God. Oh, I got to get one of
those. Someday I'm going to get one of those and I want you to go to Barrett Jackson with me and
help me buy it. You know, and I just know if I pulled on and it doesn't matter the color,
doesn't matter anything, as long as it was like super sweet and just cruising, they would all
be like, oh, look at that. It's that quintessential American. Everybody loves a convertible Camaro
of those first three years. I'd probably get something like red that nobody has.
Like a red 69 Camaro. Right. Yeah. Or that orange. Nobody has one of those.
So, all right. Well, you doing anything? Are you going to the cookout again this year for the
fourth time? I think so. We haven't put it all together yet. I used to get invited every year,
but then I never showed up, so they quit inviting me. It's all kind of like in play. It never really,
it's kind of a last minute thing. We're like, maybe we're going. But where I am,
they do like a fireworks show in the water and not like underwater. Like they float like a ball
out there and they do a fireworks show. But getting in and out of this area, because the whole,
all the surrounding cities, everybody comes here and turns into a big traffic nightmare. So,
once I leave, when I come back, you have to give it an extra hour or two. You're just sitting in
line trying to, it's, you know, it's like a little hike. Mike is not on tour like he is this year.
We usually go down to his place and hang out all day and we do all the fun stuff. And him and I
always make a trip on the bikes, just cruise around Newport. And when I used to live down in Newport,
I'm always fortunate because it is just so crazy nuts. It's And it's just,
it is like everybody in Southern California goes to Newport, you know, and it's just,
it's the sights, the sounds, the smells, it's, you know, people, it's like a movie. It really is
like a movie because there's people like riding, you know, down the street eating a hot dog and,
you know, it's awesome. But this year, probably not going to go anywhere. Probably going to do
work around the house because we just finished up a bunch of construction at the house and I had my
back patio tore down because it needed to be painted. Does that make sense? It needed to be
bad, needed to be painted and we're going to have the house painted. And I was looking at it and I
said, you know what, maybe we just tear that thing down. And, and I've never been happier. We tore
this down. It was one of those, I think they call them sunshades where it was built off the house
and it had the slats of wood, you know, that lets direct sunlight down, but from either direction
it shades it, you know, my house got so much brighter. I mean, it's like, I walk into the
kitchen in the morning and it's like sunny and bright and it's, it's, it's just nice. I'm very happy.
Now I've got a, now my wife is saying I've got to build an outdoor kitchen where that used to be
out at the edge, you know, like a grill. But now all you need now though is a table with a big
umbrella. They can open and close, right? You want a little shade, then you could fold it up and put
it away and, but she has like, she has delusions of grandeur. She has, you know, like, you know,
like Mike has, and I'm like, yeah, like Mike has, you know, it's like, there's this bad standard of
hanging around with Mike because, you know, what he builds in his backyard or at his place in Vegas.
What car are we going to sell to build that kitchen to be like Mike's? It's like, you know,
or our neighbor's across the street. This guy's got, he's got, I mean, this crazy outdoor kitchen
with, you know, all kinds of stuff going on and, and it's beautiful. And I mean, but yeah, that's
not going to happen. So anyways, but maybe it could happen if all of you this weekend visited
my, my Bond Speed Streetwear store and, and bought a couple of t-shirts or to make it even easier for
you, go to Speed Buys on, on eBay. The name of the store is Speed Buys. Go there, check it out.
And there is a ton of good looking stuff, good shirts, hats, stickers, and you know, go grab them,
they're really cool. And if you don't like car stuff, I don't know why you're listening to this,
but we've got a really cool selection of, if you remember the old travel decals that were on the
back of station wagons and stuff. And you see them on a lot of restored cars today. I did a series
of t-shirts based on old travel decals where I kind of put my own spin on them, recreated them,
and they're pretty cool. So go check them out. And Matt. Yes, sir. Anything to promote?
No, I'm looking at your eBay store. Who, who took the time to put all this stuff up there?
The guy sitting right in front of you, my man. There's a lot of stuff.
Are you at the Speed Bays? Speed Buys store? Yeah. Yeah, man. Lots of stuff.
So, uh, yeah, no, we, uh, I, um, I, it took me about a week to get everything loaded in that store.
And then you get all done. And then you go, oh, I had the wrong shipping amount. And I had to go
back and individually tell each one a new shipping amount. And, uh, that's a bummer when you do that.
Yes. But it's all ready to go. Hey, um, thanks for listening, everyone. We'll be back next week.
And that's a promise, not a threat. Have a happy 4th of July. Happy birthday, America.
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About this episode
Celebrate the Fourth of July with a lively discussion on the ultimate American car debate and the rising trend of European quadricycles. The hosts share personal holiday stories, from chaotic Los Angeles fireworks to planning a road trip through wildfire-threatened Western states. They dive into the quirky world of micro-cars, highlighting the Fiat Topolino's potential arrival in the US and the challenges of unregulated electric dirt bikes on local streets. It's a fun, conversational mix of travel plans, neighborhood antics, and unique automotive trends.
AMC Javelin
Cadillac Eldorado
Cadillac ELR
Chevrolet C10
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Dodge Challenger
Dodge Charger
Dodge Hornet
Ferrari Testarossa
Ford F-150
Ford Falcon
Ford F Series
Ford Model T
Ford Mustang
Ford Ranger
Ford Torino
Hyundai Grandeur
Lamborghini Diablo
Lamborghini Miura
Tesla Model S
Vector W8
Volkswagen Beetle
Volkswagen Bus
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On this episode #575:
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• We Debate the MOST AMERICAN; Car, Motor, Drive & More!
• Quadricycle Cars Coming Soon!
• Summer Travels
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