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Welcome to the Week in Sports Cars, part of the Master Group podcast collection. It's
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another edition of the Le Mans 2026 preview brought to you by the Justice Brothers and
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Toronto Merit Sports dot com. This is LMP2, this is that segment. It's the all-Orca pack
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that will be racing for glory in LMP2 and LMP2 Pro-Am this year. Graham is alongside me.
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Graham Goodwin, the editor-in-chief of DailySportsCar.com. I'm Stephen Kilby, editor of DailySportsCar.com
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and WC correspondent for Racer Magazine. Excited to break down what is, I'm sure, going to
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be an awesome field and awesome class and an epic battle in this race, 19 cars, Graham.
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It's 19 cars, isn't it? It's 10 cars in LMP2. It's 9 LMP2 per round, so pretty much all
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the way straight down the line. You're right, all-Orca on the Goodyear tyre with the awesome
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Gibson 4.2-litre V8 that will add again to the soundtrack of Le Mans, coming towards the
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end of that era, just two more to go with those cars. But for me, Stephen, it's the quality
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of the teams and the quality of the drivers. And in particular, the quality of the pros,
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I should say, in Pro-Am. How are we going to do this? We're going to do this pro, the
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LMP2 class first and Pro-Am second or the other way round.
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Let's talk about BOP first. Oh, no, we don't need to because there isn't any BOP. So all
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of you people who are sitting there moaning about BOP but then say, obviously, it's a
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rubbish class. It's the Oracle Cup. You're wrong. It's an awesome class.
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And there's no BOP and it's just raw power.
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If you're not keeping an eye on LMP2 during the 25 hours of Le Mans, God, are you missing
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out? It's fantastic. Yeah, no, it's very awesome.
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Anybody that's getting used to watching the European Le Mans series, the Asian Le Mans
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series will need no telling. It's spectacular racing. Quality of the teams, despite the
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departure of some of the super teams for hypercar, is still right up there, as we'll be talking
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about in the next hour or so, I guess. But Stephen, what are we looking forward to? We
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are going to have a crack through the Pro Ams first.
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Yeah, let's do Pro Am first. And should we do it in numerical?
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I think we're going to have to because otherwise we're going to get terribly, terribly confused.
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Start with the number three then from Luxembourg, DKR Engineering. And this is Sebastian Alvarez,
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John Verano in Canada, Renga Vandezander in the number three, Oracle, that features a
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fantastic looking livery for 2026 with reflective stripes on the car. So if it makes it to the
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nighttime, it's going to be an absolute fan favorite.
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Oh, yeah, it's a cool livery anyway. And they've done a really nice job of it over the recent
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years in the LMS. So yeah, I'm looking forward to having a little stand up from the desk about
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three o'clock in the morning, stretching my arms a little bit, walking over to the window,
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the pressure of watching that go by. Do love a reflective livery.
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Well, Renga Vandezander amongst it, that's by no means the only current hypercar slash
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GTP driver we'll be talking about in LMP2 or indeed LMP2 Pro Am. He's absolutely a star
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power there. Sebastian Alvarez pretty quick. John Verano, having taken quite a while to
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come back after a back injury. 24 hour race then is clearly a big test for John. What
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do we think about Dica engineering? Ken Dijek in class and his team absolutely know how
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to run a endurance race.
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Yeah. And Renga's there to do some heavy lifting and there is an element in Pro Am of for these
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Bons drivers who can bring the biggest gun. And John Verano has found a pretty big sized
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bazooka, isn't he, for this race. So looking forward to seeing how this car kind of gets
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on DKR have had pedigree at this race. Haven't they? They've got podiums, haven't they, in
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LMP2 Pro Am in the past and they're not running anymore. Are they Graham with that incredible
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Or are they? I mean, here's the thing. chassis five, we're now up to about 150 by the way,
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but that is their second car. They've got chassis 140 now. But Kenny did tell me they
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were saving that car for the endurance races.
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So we need to find out which of the two cars they've got there that want to watch. It is
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going to be a family favorite for the way it looks. I've no doubt it'd be pretty darn
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good in terms of the way it goes. Is it has it got strength in depth enough to be there
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for the podium positions? I wonder because as you'll see as we get down this list, oh
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my God, the strength in depth in LMP2 Pro Am. So Luxembourg for the podium or Luxembourg
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It's a bit of weight.
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What I would say is there is up and down the order, a little bit of an IMSA flair about
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this. And although it's a DKR engineering badged effort and the locals don't take part
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in IMSA's LMP2 class, with Sebastian Alvarez and John Verano. This is a pairing that's
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in place with John Verano's Tower Motorsports team in IMSA. What I would say is they've
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had a pretty good start to this season by all measure, got second place at Sebring and
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that's a really tough place to go and get a result. So if that's an indication of what
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their ceiling is, I think we could be interested to see if they can fight up the front in this
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Well, you say that, then we come crashing into, let's hope not literally, into the number
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four car. That's a crowd-strike racing by APR car, one of two in LMP2 Pro Am that will
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be looked after by Uncarve Pro Racing, sevens, two cocks. This one, American flagged, it
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is the IMSA entry. And oh my God, look at this lineup. George Kurtz, who is one of the strongest
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true bronzes in this field without a shadow of a doubt. Alex Quinn, we'll come back and
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talk about Alex for a moment. And Lauren Heinrich, it's a triple barrel shotgun of an
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effort. So, you know, every team in Pro Am has got to have a bronze driver pretty clearly.
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The Mr. Motivator behind that and certainly where the opportunity, the resources coming
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from is George Kurtz, focusing on LMP2 this year, no GT racing for him. Lauren Heinrich,
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now, fall factory Porsche driver will be a full season driver next year in IMSA in the
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963 until that weekend was leading the IMSA championship. Despite the fact he's not, he
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had the switch between Tyneski and JDC. But as a driver led, and so maybe a little less
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bit of a convincing run at Detroit, made a mistake that had him sitting thinking about
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his choices in life on Pit Lameville in a wee while. But make no mistake, that young man
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is one of the very best and has got plenty of time to get better. And then we switched to
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Alex Quinn. So, Alex, now a development driver for the Peugeot hypercar team, I think, okay,
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what else we talk about in this class? He is going to be one of the top five fastest drivers
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in that field. No, he's really, really quick, LMP2 car. And he's very good in a pro-am car as
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well. He's very good at working with bronze drivers. We have seen that. He's got that skill
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set already at such a young age in the year, the mess that I imagine that this is a car that's
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going to feature both of our top three. So we try and predict who's going to win each of these
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classes. And you look at George Kurtz, you look at the George Kurtz APR, double act, if you will,
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huge success. I mean, George has won Le Mans in class in the LMP2 prime as recently as 2023 with
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our Garpo Racing. And of course, this year, he's fresh from winning Daytona, Rolex 24 back in
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January with Alex Quinn in the lineup. So, yeah, they're not messing about here, are they? It'll
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be a car that looks spectacular. It'll be a car that goes spectacularly well, I'm sure. For me,
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one of the favourites. And if the race plays out in a certain way, George's drier time is done.
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We get a couple of safety cars and they're on the lead lap. Who knows that Quinn, that could win
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the class overall. Well, let's wait and see with that one. Have we peaked early? Well, let's find
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out. TBS Racing is next up. This is the 14 car. The 9 Proton next. No, that's the P2 car. Yeah,
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come back to that. C, C. Apologies. Steady. Steady. Bronner's driver is Tobias Luka,
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the one behind Shopify, I think, I'm right. Which is, I think this is going to be a car that carries
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that livery. Then we've got the two pros, Matthias Besch and Chextra Effect, Kevin Estra. Now, Kevin
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hasn't done much in P2 cars, has he? No, but he's done plenty in prototypes.
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Quite a lot. I think I'm right in saying, Stephen Kilby, has quite a reputation for being,
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how could we put this, pacey. So, the last time he was at Le Mans in a P2 car, do you remember when it was?
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No. 2015 with Oak Racing with Lawrence Vantor and Chris coming. Was he really?
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Unbelievable. In a JSP2 that didn't finish. Dear me. Probably Kevin's fault. It definitely was.
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Matthias Besch. Purposeful, I think. We've got to talk about Matthias' style.
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Aggressive is another way to put it out. If you're wheel to wheel with him, you're going to know about
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it. Then, basically, it's like a tag wrestling team. You can just bring the car in, tag go to
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Kevin Estra and you're in all sorts of trouble there as well. So, if this pair can show their
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pace and aggression without faults, they could well be up there. There's no doubt. Look, it's
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the easiest thing in the world to say, the weakest link here is blah, blah, blah. I'm not comparing
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the best look to the two pro drivers. Of course I'm not. That's not fair. But I would say that I
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think Tobias is not the strongest Le Bronson in this world. No. He's new to Le Mans. He's pretty
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new to prototype racing as a horse. He's got a lot to learn still. Clearly, extremely passionate about
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it, willing to put his money where his mouth is and come and do these big races. It will be a
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challenging week for you. There's no doubt about it. But he has people around him and TDS are a
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fantastic team. I'm thinking particularly Kevin Estra that will guide him through it well. If he
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can stay error free, then he's got the two pros alongside him that can deliver some sort of result.
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I'm not expecting this to be a car that's gunning for the win, even with a Kevin Estra. He's clearly
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coming into this race feeling like he's got a lot to prove in a sense of he wants to get back in
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hypercar. We know he does. He wants to make sure that people know he's still very much there and
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fighting behind the wheel. There's going to be an interesting story about this car and how well
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it does. What we see if we see Kevin strapped in in a stint where he can fight through the field,
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I think that would be quite entertaining. But yeah, remains to be seen how high the ceiling will be.
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Okay. Let's move on. There's going to be another car with assistance from TDS when we get to the
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P2 class. But next up for Pro-Am is the 25 car. This is the other R-Car pro racing run car run
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under their own banner. Michael Genson, the ex-Ajahn Le Mans series champion, joined by Jake Hughes
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and Enzo Trulli. So Michael getting more and more confident in a P2 car, loving his racing and finding
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speed as he finds his confidence with two young men, both of whom are beginning to show some real
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sparkle. What do we think about Jake Hughes and Enzo Trulli? Enzo Trulli, fantastic, a real, real
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talent has been working with, with Michael in Asian Le Mans and in LMS so far this year. Won the
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first round of the season at Barcelona with Malte Acupson in the third chair. I think they're a
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really good double act. And for someone like Michael having continuity from LMS into the Le Mans
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and Le Froules will help him. Jake Hughes, if you look at it on the face of it, he's racing in
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LMP2, not P2 Pro-Am with our Gav Pro in LMS this year. He's come into it and it's not been a great
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start to the season, two night place finishes and bottom of the standings. But I don't think
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that's Jake Hughes is making at all. I think he's been impressive. I think he's been quick
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and he was quick from the prologue onwards this year. He's someone I'm looking, I'm keeping an eye
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on, somebody that could develop in the next year or so to being in the sort of Alex Quinn realm of,
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oh, wow, okay, another young British upstart who's, you know, Olly Gray. Yeah, and Olly Gray, that sort
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of, that sort of ilk. And he has got plenty of relevant experience. He's obviously done high level
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single seaters. He's been in Formula Two, he's done Formula Three, he's done a little bit of
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Formula E as well. Prototype racing clearly made major differences there. He's got the speed and
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this would be a very interesting week to watch him and see how he takes on his first Le Mans.
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Okay, let's move down. Next one up in an LMP2 Pro is the number 44 car. This is from Proton
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Competition. And this is the car for Hearst Field by My Jr. Hearst Field, Hearst Felix Feldby My,
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that is Junior's son, and Lorenzo Fluxer. Again, not a car I expect to see absolutely at the sharp end
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here. This is Hearst Feldby My Jr. I think finding his feet in an LMP2, the same for his son as the
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Silver. Fluxer, very capable of being quick. I think might well have a few fair tussles, but
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unlikely on the face of it to be a car that on pace matches the pace of some of the cars around
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them. Yeah, this is definitely one of those cars I expect to be going for a more metronomic run
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rather than sticking it on pole, battling for first, second, or third throughout the race.
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Not so they can't bring something to the party. And I certainly think Lorenzo Fluxer,
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someone in the MES, has at times shown to be a really, really capable P2 driver.
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So yeah, I mean, what to say beyond that, really, I just think this is a car that if it runs well,
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if they stay out of the garage and stay out of the barriers, as if it gets chaotic,
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if it's a race that is a bit attritional, could get something out of it, but I'm not expecting
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them to be there on pace alone. And by the way, will appear in the iconic Fubmlye Colours, which
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look absolutely fantastic on that car. Moving forward, that car getting the nod, by the way,
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through its appearances in the Asian Le Mans series, principally, as does an a first time
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appearance at the 24 Hours of Le Mans, despite the fact that has not found to be space for this team
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in the grid for the European Le Mans series, RD Limited, RD is Roman Dumas, and it is the
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double overall race winner, an ex Porsche and Audi factory driver, Roman Dumas, that appears in the
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car with his bronze Fred Portat and Tristram Votier. Now, Fred was struggling with a back injury
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over the winter, and I know they were looking to make sure that he was fit and ready for this.
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He'll need to be, because this is not a place where you want to be anything other than superfits,
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but Fred capable of sticking with the programme. For me, if Fred Portat is fit and able to produce
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his best, this could be quite interesting. Yeah, they would just have been spectacular at that time
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in the Asian Le Mans series and really, really impressive. And I'm really excited to actually
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go and just chat to Roman when we've seen him at scrutineering onwards, because he'll take a huge
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amount of pride to be taking his own team. And relief. And relief. But just in general, he's
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put a lot into this. And it's a challenge to get here from just doing Asian Le Mans series.
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They're a race-winning squad from the Asian Le Mans series. One on debut, didn't they?
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Yeah, it's a pan. It's a James Allen that was part of that effort in the Asian Le Mans series.
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And great to see them getting a go at it. It's going to be interesting to see how this matches
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up in terms of the standards set by RD Limited against the prevailing competition. And there's
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a story strand here, which is right now, we're at the point in the LMP2 cycle where new regulations
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are not very far away, new cars are coming. Teams are going to be looking at buying cars. Teams are
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going to be looking at trying to get spaces on the grid. This is the sort of race where if RD
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Limited can prove that it belongs, fight up there too for Nail, they get a good result out of this
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one. When it comes down to selection committee and ELMS entry list next year and beyond, and coming
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back to Le Mans and getting back to Asian Le Mans series, this could go a long way in securing
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that team's future as becoming more permanent presence on the grid throughout the season.
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Well, shifting from a team that's making its debut at Le Mans to three with real heritage at this event,
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first of them is the number 99 car AO by TF, European Le Mans series champions in LMP2 Pro.
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It is PJ Hyatt, the bronze driver of the squad from the Aero Racing side with Dane Cameron, X
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Porsche factory driver of course has now become a firm part of the Aero Racing
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massive and joined as a late replacement. And this comes as the switch that happened in hypercar
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with news that Alex Lin would not be able to drive with Louis Delatras stepping out, being
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replaced by, man we just mentioned, James Allen, another super quick guy in an LMP2 car.
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Lots of strands about this, but let's talk first about the look of the car because it's not Spike
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the Dragon. No, it's Rocky the Pegasus, which is a new character for the team, which I've no
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doubt there'll be people plastered in Rocky gear throughout the fan villages of Le Mans.
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Can be plastered as in they're wearing a lot of it or plastered because they're in the fan village
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and they've been working on the bar, propping it up. No, it looks very nice,
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really. I mean, every time Aero turns up with a new character and a new livery, they always do a
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spectacular job, but it's going to look awesome. It looks really nice. It's in collaboration with
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Mobile One, which is where the Pegasus angle of this comes from. And yeah, it's an effort that to
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me, you should be considering right up there with the battle for the podium and the race win here.
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They've had that late change, like you say, with Delatras stepping out and James Allen stepping
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in, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be any drop off in pace whatsoever.
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This is a really strong lineup. And in part, its prospects are so strong, not because James Allen
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is such a quick P2 driver, not because Dan Cameron is someone with a wealth of experience racing
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around the world and particularly in IMSA, but because P2 Hyatt has become such a good bronze
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in a P2 car, gets better all the time. This time last year, we were talking about when are
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you finally going to win a race? It feels like he's basically won every race.
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He's been astonishing. But again, he's another of this, I want to say new breed of bronzes,
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that just demands so much from themselves. And genuinely disappointed if he's found himself
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falling slightly short in and qualified. He's quite harsh, he's critic, isn't he?
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He is. So it's going to be an interesting one to see how this gels. James Allen,
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I think is one of the best out there, the pure LMP2 drivers. In other words, drivers have not
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yet been given a break in a GTP or a hypercar. And Dan Cameron, well, he's more class. It's as simple
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as that. And he's done wonders with PJ. Yeah, cannot ignore this car in any way, shape or form. So
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that's AO by TF. The second of those three teams with heritage includes a driver with heritage
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at this race. And that is the bronze rated Francois Proto, who brings this effort together.
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And as always, Francois has dipped into the talent bank and plucked out a couple of ripe plums,
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one of whom is long term collaborator, Mathieu Vazervier, who's always motivated at this great
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race. The makes for a French duo, but joined by Ben the Goat, Barney Goat.
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The first time since 2020. Oh, he did Le Mans with them in 2024, and then Didier Le Mes with
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Francois in 2023. So that's a bit of pedigree racing with Francois.
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But Ben is just super quick. Mathieu, difficult to race against, is another one from the
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you know, the open up the folder that says fast and aggressive. And once you flick past the picture
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of Mathieu's Bech, there's Mathieu Vazervier right there too. And by the way, Louis Delatras.
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All three of them capable of going wheel to wheel, head to head and any other part they're
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not to be that kind of gets in the way. The 183 Francois beginning to show flashes of his old form.
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He had tricky few months. I know he's been very, very busy with the rest of his life.
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Beginning to show flashes of his old form, realizing he's got to get basically get nailed in.
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And up the ante against, you know, an increasing field of competition. Can't ignore that car.
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Can't ignore that car. If Francois does a job and Math Vaz is quick and doesn't make any sort of
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there's no laps and concentration when he's behind the wheel. This is a car that comes in the class
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as well. This is what's so great about P2 Pro Am is that there's only a couple of cars where you think
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the rest of them, you can make the case. Let's look at the final car in a by the way, that is the
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183 again here for the 24 hours. And one not the 83, which would be normally Francois regular
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because of course the 83 is the other submarine Ferrari 499. And the story behind that number
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is that's of course as team principal. Batty, reserving effect of that number should
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that ever be a class where Francois comes back to the WC. That's why they've hung onto that car.
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I thought it was just because it was Francois age. I thought that's why.
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See it here me. You're brave. You're brave with him not in the room. Finally though, it's the 222
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from United Autosports. And that's a brand new number for them. That's because they've got the
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222 and the 222. That is for Daniel Schneider from Brazil, the gentleman driver joined by
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Ollie Jarvis and Ben Hanley. And that is United going with pace and experience alongside a valuable
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customer for them, Daniel Schneider. Dan finding consistency. There's no doubt about it. You know,
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he's not one of the pace here. Bronze drivers in this field, but definitely finding consistency
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and also making fewer errors. Which is the wall. No, no, no, absolutely. So again,
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what he'll approve to himself by doing that is, oh, I'm going to minute the results are better.
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And that means that what you'll find is an easier transition to a focus on that consistency
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rather than over driving with pace and making those mistakes. He'll absolutely be aware,
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as a guy who started this race previously, that that's what's required here in Spain. But beyond
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that, once he's got through that time and once he's handed that car over to both Ollie Jarvis
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and Ben Hanley, there are two drivers that do have pace and absolutely know what is required at this
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completely unique race. Yeah. So the good news is there's two angles. Ollie Jarvis has worked with
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Dan Schneider plenty. They know each other well, they work together very well. And it wasn't that
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long ago that we were talking about Ollie Jarvis as a LMP2 race winner of United Lomano only a
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couple of years ago. Then you've got Ben Hanley, who is fresh from a phenomenal performance from
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the team in LMP2 at the ELMS, winning at Paul Ricard with Griffin Peebles and Greg Warsalsi.
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He's on his day. I'm playing a full part in that. Yeah, playing a massive part in that. And on his
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day is as quick, as not quick, and everyone else in a P2 car. How much is he rated by United Auto
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Sports? Well, he's rated enough that they've been putting him on development duties for the
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new McLaren hypercar. It's been out in the last few days before we made this recording and putting
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laps on the brand new McLaren that we'll see here at this great race next year. So that's the nine.
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Top three. We're not going to get into the might be a firm car in the mix for the...
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Right, we're doing subclass. Just subclass first. The top three, and I'm going to ask you a name,
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one that you think might make it. 25, Al Gore pro racing. Okay. The four. Yeah.
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Crowdstroke by APR. And the 183, of course. Interesting. Not a million miles away from
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the... 25 is certainly in the mix. For me, the four is absolutely going to be in that list.
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The 99, AIR by TF, I think, is going to be in amongst it. I am slightly concerned about the
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fitness levels for Fred Portat. But without that, I'd be having the 48 car there. 25. It's two new
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young drivers in this race that is bothering me about that. I'm going to go for the 183. So it's
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the 99, the 183, and the four. The winner for you? I'm going to be bold. And that's the thing,
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is that AIR by TF car and TF are so good at running P2 car. The only reason I'm not putting them in
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the top three is because there's not enough space in the top three. It's a toss up. But I'm going
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to be bold and say it's an APR 12 with the four leading the 25. Okay. I agree with you, the four,
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with that shadow of a doubt. I think that stands out to me. The one is one of these races, isn't
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it? Where you can spend a week thinking that's the car, car. It could
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just as easily be George Kurtz pulling in with a broken throttle linkage in the first hour. And then
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all of a sudden, it's so close, you've got no way back in. But there's certainly, for me, you're
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right, there's three or four teams there that you could honestly expect to see battling it out
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in the front. And I really want them to be in the mix with the other P2 cars. I think that'd be
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awesome. Because there's so much talent there. There's so many drivers that you're like, I'd love
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to see, you know, a Rengar van der Zander battling with the top end drivers in the P2 class as well.
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I really hope that we get that. Let's switch straight over then to LMP2. And that is 10 cars.
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Again, all Orica 07s with the Gibson engine and again on the same Goodyear tyres. First,
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numerically, is Proton competitions car. That's one where we've had a fairly recent change. You
28:11
know, this read Harry King and Kakarushin Ota. But I think replaced the originally named Lenny
28:20
Reid. Did he not? Wasn't Lenny named in that car to start with? Your memory is better than mine.
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I think it was. But certainly, Ota-san is a relatively new addition to that one. Of course,
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he's racing in the United States with Akira. So it's quite interesting.
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All over the place in Japan, mainly with super GT, super Formula A. He's a rapid talent here.
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So what do we think of that one? That's a cracking line up for me. That's a cracking line up.
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Jonas Reid is getting better and better. He's kind of one of those that feels a little bit like
28:57
a Giorgio Roder in a sense that is just so often he doesn't get the result.
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But if everything comes together, he's got the ability to be able to keep a car in the heart.
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He's won a race for the LMS. That's not easy. Yeah. And it could very easily,
29:13
with the likes of Harry King, Kakarushin Ota with the car with him, this could be a car that comes out
29:18
there and wins this race to get to the podium. Because I rate Ota and I really rate Harry King.
29:26
Harry King in Asia Lomon series was unbelievable. He was with that pure racing effort that went a bit
29:34
awry. Yeah, I think Harry was phenomenal behind the wheel. Harry took some flat from within the
29:41
team, I think completely unfairly. But when he got on that, here's the thing, whenever he got
29:47
that car, you got excited about it. Oh yeah. You knew it was going to be spectacular and it was.
29:54
So that's one to remember, the number nine prototype competition car. Could that be an
29:58
effectively, oh really? Could that be a bit of a dark horse? The interesting to note about this is
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the nine car in ELMS is the car that we've been seeing racing with the Ford performance,
30:13
venture engineering, or Ford racing, venture engineering backing. That's not the case. We
30:18
don't have the likes of a Sepriot or Mike Rockenfeller with the Ford branding all over it,
30:25
or venture engineering branding. But what we don't know is, do we have some of the background crew?
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I bet we do. That's going to be something we're going to have to spy. Dig into. Moving down,
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next one numerically, we leap straight from number 19 to number 22. It's the other United
30:41
Autosports car. It's Mikkel, not Michael Jensen, Rasmus Lind and Gregor Sauti.
30:47
So right, what to say here? Well, Mikkel has obviously now confirmed as a McLaren full season
30:53
driver, moving over from Peugeot. He's firmly part of their test and development
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plans. Rasmus Lind, known to be pacey. Gregor Sauti, boy has he made progress year on year.
31:08
He's been loyal to United. United has been loyal to him. They love him. They think he's a massive
31:13
team player. He's a real asset to that unit. And I completely agree. Not only has he been
31:19
getting stronger and stronger in a P2 car, he's been better and better as we've seen him over
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the years in GT3 and LMGT3. This is a really nice lineup. I really like this one. In particular,
31:32
we've got the hand of Mikkel Jensen, who's in the middle of that development program, as you say,
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with McLaren. And this is an opportunity for him in a year when he's been sitting and watching
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WC races on sidelines to get a bit feisty and get a big result in a big race. I think he's
31:49
definitely one to watch. Rasmus Lind, Rasmus was part of the... Part of the IMSR effort, isn't he?
31:54
Part of the IMSR effort, which Daytona winning IMSR effort, is another strong hand here. I
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expect him to be one of the better drivers in the field in the silver column. But yeah,
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I mean, really, really strong start to the season for him in LMP2 in IMSR. Leads the championship
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after getting a second place finish at Seabringer. There's only been two races in LMP2 there, but
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still a very strong start. And he'll come into this with plenty of confidence. And this is
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united, we've not seen in WC competition this year because Garret and I stepped in
32:32
while they move into hypercar and develop the LMDH. This is a huge deal for them, this P2 effort,
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isn't it? And this is a car that they'll want to keep flying the flag for the team and hopefully
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rack up another win. So that's United Auto Sports, a known quantity across LMP2 and twice winners,
32:52
I think in LMP2 at Le Mans now, from memory. Move on to Nielsen Racing. So this is a team that's
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sort of reinvention some pretty major investment that's been spent pretty wisely by Nielsen Racing.
33:08
And we've seen an immediate uptick in terms of performance in the European Le Mans series
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from them. They bring to this effort David High-Mahanson, who has a Le Mans win, albeit in GT,
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but three podium finishes across the class as he's contested the Danish tech genius,
33:29
but silver ranked racer, Edward Pearson, new name for many, who is part of the team's effort
33:36
in the European Le Mans series, and Jack Dillon steps over from Formula One.
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Certainly we've seen an uptick. It's not been quite as steady a boat in terms of the overall
33:52
performances. Every person I think is adapting to P2, but it's taking some time. And I think
33:58
particularly for that reason, I'm going to say here, this is a team I don't immediately see
34:04
Stephen being running up the front of this race. And I think they will be looking for
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speed, yes, but principally consistency. But this is going to be a car that's going to be
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worth a follow. And I think they will have loads of eyes on it purely because Jack Dillon's in that
34:22
car. And it's a big transition from him going from the heights of Formula One and how he was
34:28
treated in my mind pretty poorly on his way out the door very quickly. He's now moved in sports
34:35
cars. He's got that smile back in his face that we often see from drivers who have reached a high
34:40
level in single seaters and it's not gone the way they're expected. I'm excited to see one how he
34:47
soaks up this event, what he thinks of it. He seems incredibly motivated to make something of this
34:54
move into sports cars. And this is a big opportunity for him on a big stage to show everyone what he
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can do. I hope he can. I hope me too. I mean, nobody likes to see someone of obvious talent
35:06
battered down by the machine around him, which is frankly, I completely agree with you,
35:11
was what it looked like to me. We have much to say with Logan's Argent, Logan's family smile.
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And this is a great period in sports car racing, giving talented drivers like that an opportunity
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to say, that's not my level. What you've seen there, that's not my level. Here's what I
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can do against my peers. And let's hope he gets the opportunity to shine and to enjoy this huge event.
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That is Nielsen Racing. Next up, it's another UK team, so three in a row, Vector Sports.
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With their new look effort, just one car from their two car effort in the LMS here. That is for
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Ryan Cullen, Silver Driver, Pietro Fidipaldi and Vlad Lomko.
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Vector, appear for the enigma really. They're a very well run team. Got a lot of time for Gary
36:05
Holland. I think he's a great team manager. Speak to Holly for you. It's a long way.
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Thanks very much, Gary. But a team that yet to see properly break through and get a big standout
36:17
signature result. Could this be the opportunity? I'd like to think that this is going to be a
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competitive car. I think what we're not prepared to say is a favourite. We're beginning to see
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regularly. I'll say the same for Nielsen. Whereas in the years where maybe it was a bit more of a
36:38
struggle, you'd be expected to see those cars 10th, 11th, 12th. We're now seeing them 4th, 5th,
36:44
6th and then rising up through the order. They're waiting for a bit of a dose of luck
36:50
to get the result that they will feel that they deserve from those efforts.
36:55
Nothing wrong with that effort, that lineup. Nothing to say that they can't be actually in with the
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mix of things. A lot of it is going to come down to just how the look and the strategy holds for
37:07
them. But good to see Vectorsport coming back with, like I say, a new look. If they're carrying
37:15
the same livery, it's a bit London buses, but nothing wrong with that. Red with, I think it's a
37:20
white striping for their regular P2 Pro car. But good luck for them. Don't overlook Vlad Longko.
37:29
No, God knows. He's very impressive when he was with into Europol. Second at Le Mans, I think.
37:35
Second in the LMS standings. He is a talent. I think he's one that some people may overlook,
37:43
but they shouldn't. Edexport next up. That's part of what's the 26 car for Vectorsport.
37:48
28 car is Edexport. Just one of their two cars in contention at Le Mans this year. Last year,
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they ran their second car for the Genesis Trajetry Program. That continues, by the way, with a new
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trio this year in the European Le Mans series, but that is not a car that's entered for Le Mans.
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The 28, though, Paula Farg, twice from memory European Le Mans series champion, the Silver Rank
38:13
Driver. Valeria Rignicella looked after by Marco Ciacci. He is the one member of the
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Trajetry Program in the race. There you go. And Jove Van Uter, who we're beginning to have to say
38:27
is a veteran in LMP2, which is shocking. Still big smile, still super competitive.
38:37
That's quite a well-balanced squad. It's not shouting at me that I expect that car to be
38:43
running in the front. And a part of that is, sort of think Paula Farg needs a bit of a reset.
38:49
He did look in odd form at Paul Ricard fighting with the team car. And when I say fighting,
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I mean fighting. And I don't know whether or not there's a bit of frustration that he's not got
39:06
a yard of peace there before. I think this is a car that can do very well. I mean, coming off
39:14
very good at Paul Ricard, finished third in what is a truly awesome P2 class. And that's when
39:23
Lafargue and Jove Van Uter race removed Paulic Chattano. And Jove Van Uter has been fantastic
39:29
at them on and just not got the big result yet. I mean, we're seeing to remember how competitive
39:34
they were and how well they were running up the field when they had that... Lost the wheel.
39:38
Yeah, lost the wheel. And that was last year, wasn't it? The year before he finished third with
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Paula Farg. And by the way, he's had a second place in P2 Pro Am. I think I said it on the
39:48
broadcast, was proud of the way that he dealt with that. The crowd very pleased to see him get out
39:55
that car after what could have been an horrendous shunt. But it was very gracious with the crowd
40:01
and their response to him from stepping out the car. But lovely guy, a delight always to meet him
40:07
in the paddock. And let's hope that he gets a Le Mans run that he deserves. And I'm looking forward
40:13
to seeing what Rente and cellak can do because he's going to be an opportunity for him. Yeah. And
40:18
being part of the Genesis Directory program, clearly you can see there's the potential for him
40:22
to open some doors in his career if he does well enough. We saw him very quick in a P3 car and
40:27
obviously Mogicciocci and the team around Valeria have been working hard to catch the eye of something
40:32
that will launch him up the prototype order. We moved the 28 EDEC car to the 29 for SDA racing
40:42
by Panis car. So this is the other car run actually by TDS racing for SDA racing bringing you back
40:48
into Olivier Panis' efforts. Well, Louis Rousset is the new name there this year, but joined by
40:59
Oli Gray and Esteban Masson. I'd say right now that's going to be my top three.
41:05
It's for me, you know, I mean, they came a whisker, didn't they, from winning the class last year
41:11
and it all fell apart with that horrible suspension failure when they're battling with Interuropole
41:16
late in the race. It's not quite as strong of a lineup. Last year, they had Frank Pereira, didn't they,
41:26
from Lamborghini's factory Rostrof on Brightly. Louis Rousset, I think, still got a bit to prove,
41:32
but this is a lineup that came straight out the gates, won a Barcelona as a trio in Ilemesse,
41:38
didn't go so well for them, didn't finish at Paul Ricard. But yeah, I mean, I could see a world in
41:45
which this is on the podium and fighting for victory. I think Masson and Gray are such a great
41:49
one to punch. Gray continues to improve all the time. He is a real real talent and I'm delighted
41:55
that he found a way back into the championship. Could just have easily been a falling off.
42:00
Yeah, he's in that kind of bubble where he's changing driver ranking and it was going to be
42:04
tricky for him to get a seat. But he is exceptional and he's kind of come out of nowhere to being
42:12
somebody that you look to as an exciting driver in P2. And yeah, Esteban Masson is as good as any
42:18
pro in this field and it feels like he is knocking on the door, doesn't it, of a hypercar seat
42:23
100% with the likes of Toyota. So this is another opportunity for him to get some silverware and
42:30
make it clear that he deserves a space in the top class.
42:33
So 29, the 30 car from Decayne team, they didn't make it to the race last year, did they? They
42:39
were not selected. But they're back this year with a very new look squad in his Richard Vashour,
42:46
Dorian Pan and Julian Anlau. Dorian, I believe the only female driver in a prototype this year.
42:54
Yes. Yes. So Dorian, Julian and Richard, what do we think about that, Steven? Dorian
43:01
is quick in a prototype, no doubt at all about it. Julian Anlauer,
43:08
world class. Wow. Yeah. What a driver to princes. It's an interesting one, this for a couple of
43:13
reasons. One is Decayne leads the championship in Elon Musk, but not in LNP2. They lead in LNP2
43:19
Pro-Am, where it's Georgia Roder in the bronze chair. So it's a switcher class for that car and
43:24
for Dorian and Richard. And it's also a big change for Decayne this year because they're now run by
43:32
RSGP. So there's a technical partnership between RSGP, a title winning, a hugely successful single
43:39
seat team, running that P2 effort. And they look great. They look better for it. It looks like a
43:44
really strong team. And that's a car for me. I could see fighting for the win. I'd be pretty
43:52
confident that that's going to be up there. It does seem, doesn't it, as if that's a squad that is
43:56
beginning to position itself for the inevitable reset we're going to see at the pecking order
44:02
in LNP2 with new cars in 2028. Got a number of quite high profile single seated teams that have
44:08
been dipping into prototype racing and RSGP are one of them. And they're already winning in P3.
44:14
Wouldn't be a tall surprise to see a car under their own banner at some point.
44:19
And we mentioned that Dorian, she's the second Peugeot hypercar development driver after Alex Quinn
44:26
in this field. So again, she's clearly got her eye on hypercar. Peugeot clearly got their eye on her
44:33
for being a potential driver in the future for their hypercar team as things progress. So again,
44:40
another driver that has a, you know, has the package around them and a team around them that
44:45
is going to give them a platform to show what they can do. I'm really excited to see Dorian
44:49
Pan in this race. And for sure, after some success in single seaters F3 and F2, he's beginning to
44:58
make his way a little early yet maybe to see the best of him, but that won't be long coming.
45:04
No, no, don't expect that. So I think he's been really strong so far this year. It's just been
45:09
a really nice effort. It's going to be different, different field that they're racing against what
45:13
they normally would in Prim in the LMS. But yeah, I have expectations for Ducan. I think this is a
45:19
good chance for them to make some, make some waves. Three more to come. First of those is the 37 CLX
45:26
Motorsports. This is the team from Switzerland, previously known as the Cool Racing Squad.
45:35
It is Ian Aguilera, young Mexican driver, Adrienne Clomineal and Theo Jensen, both the
45:43
latter drivers, Adrienne from France and Theo Jensen, yet another Dane coming into endurance racing.
45:52
Those two from the very successful conveyor belt of talent from CLX via success in LMP3.
46:02
And weren't they amazing last year? They were amazing. I mean, Aguilera, I think, is going to be
46:07
rapid. Theo Jensen is going to be rapid and, oddly enough, Adrienne Clomineal is going to be rapid.
46:14
So, but somehow, somehow, it's not quite been clicking for them.
46:19
No, it's not. But I think that's in part because the field in the LMS is so strong.
46:25
And, you know, we can't expect, you know, the likes of Theo Jensen and Adrienne Clomineal to jump
46:31
straight from a P3 car to a P2 car racing in a field and an environment where they're up against
46:36
drivers who've been racing the same car for years and getting every ounce of pace
46:41
out of it. They can. It's, you can't expect them to be immediately winning races. I mean, it can happen.
46:47
We've seen it, you know, like some Matisha O'Bear showing what you can do immediately getting in
46:51
one of those cars. But they've just been going steadily about it. And I think it's probably too
46:55
early to expect this car to be a podium contender. I wouldn't expect that at this point. But this is
47:01
a learning year for those two in particular, I think, if they come back next year and they continue
47:06
on this journey with CLX next year, could be the year that we're talking about them being up there
47:13
and, you know, fighting for a big result. We've certainly seen, as the three of them, Theo Jensen
47:19
and Annie in Aquilera put in some actually very good performances, some really quick performances.
47:24
It's going to be interesting to see how they're going to adapt their natural. It's a big week,
47:29
isn't it? And they're all 19 years old. They're all teenagers. And they don't, what they don't have,
47:34
as much as they've got talent individually, they don't have, which I think you always need.
47:38
Each of them are 19. Yeah, they're all 19. It's a teenage car. So put the three of those ages
47:44
together and they're about half your age. 57 and I'm 62. That makes me feel extremely old.
47:51
I know, but what they may lack is an experienced driver in that, in a car with them.
47:58
I'm not the guy. To help them through, you most certainly are not around.
48:03
To help them through what is going to be a really taxing week. So, but it's going to be fun to see
48:08
them work together and work their way through it because it is a journey, isn't it? In most
48:12
moments, you turn up for scrutiny and to the moment that race finishes, it's an odyssey,
48:16
isn't it? And for free teenagers, and what an experience, they're going to be some of
48:19
you lads on tour, really, isn't it? Imagine on the post race party could be something.
48:25
Okay, let's move on to the final pair. They're both from the same team. In cerebral competition,
48:33
the 43 car for Tom Dilman, Kubitski Mikoski and Nitya Ellily and the 343 from Meshad Dijera,
48:40
Bijoy Garg and the usual LMS two driver lineup joined here by Niko Mula.
48:47
Right, first things first, let's talk about the racing bakers. One of the two cars with a
48:53
ARC car. Yeah, that's the 43. Leverie.
48:58
Outstanding record of the last three seasons. Two wins and a second place in three years.
49:03
Putting the market down to say, yeah, super teams, yeah, we're one of those.
49:12
All sorts of stuff going on in the background and hopefully you'll get to read some of that
49:15
on DSC before we get to the mon to do with InteruPaul and their future.
49:25
Before this race, this racing season started, I'd have said to you, this is all about the 43 car.
49:32
Dilman, I think is excellent. Kubitski Mikoski knows how to race these cars at these events,
49:39
round and round and round. Knows the job he's got to do, does it to perfection.
49:46
Is able to get stuck in when he has to, but knows that his job is to keep out of trouble,
49:51
and keep the consistency and the pace up. Nitya Ellily, world class.
49:56
That's out. He has factory quality and has proved it.
49:59
And here's an angle we've not touched on yet. It's in the same applies with Ota,
50:03
same applies with Rengar van der Zander and same, obviously applies with Nitya Ellily.
50:06
They're all from the Acura GTP camp. That program is going away. This is a chance for them to show
50:13
the other factories in this field. This is what we've got. We want to drive in your hypercar.
50:18
So the point is about to make is that's the car of the two that before this season, I'd have said,
50:23
yep, that's their A2. That's the one. And then you see what's been going on with what is here
50:30
called the 343 team, Ressha Desjardins and Bijoy Garg. Bijoy has won at Le Mans with United Auto
50:38
Sports. Coming into this season, I'm not afraid to say, either said, I don't think that pair,
50:44
as a two driver squad has got any chance at all in the European Le Mans series. And they're out there
50:50
and absolutely in the mix in the first two races this season. Really impressive. I mean,
50:55
Bijoy has made a big, big step forward. Ressha Desjardins, we already knew, was properly rapid
51:01
over a single lap, but somehow he hasn't really quite worked for him. The way that this team is
51:07
running that as a two driver effort has been truly one of the surprises of the season. Nico Mulla
51:14
coming back into LMP2 for this race from Formula R after his sojourn at Peugeot.
51:24
As a driver of very high quality.
51:31
I think the answer is that for me, the 43 is probably just the better of the two.
51:37
It would not be a surprise to me to see both those cars contest at podium.
51:41
I have me neither. And the remarkable stat. And I have to keep reminding myself this from the
51:47
New York Poles. They've had crazy success at Le Mans the last three years. And I've gone a long way
51:55
improving that that win in 2023 was there was no fluke there. They are they are a force we
52:00
reckoned with. And, you know, they are one of the top teams in this formula. But they've won more
52:06
races at Le Mans than they have in the LMS LMP2. They've won one race in the LMS LMP2.
52:11
But and two times at Le Mans. It's ridiculous. If all you watched was Le Mans, you'd assume
52:18
that into Europe, all would dominate in everyone in the LMS. But they just seem to finish second,
52:23
third, second, very highly consistent in the LMS. Two years ago, we have both cars. Absolutely
52:28
brilliant. People like Tia Pusher, I pour them and they were in the mix every single race, every
52:34
single race in the European Le Mans series. And didn't win it. Yeah. Well, there was a Dilman
52:38
Shmahovsky and Yellow Lee in 2025, the year they won them on, they finished second in all but one
52:44
of the LMS racing, they have won the finished 10th, finished second in the championship. But,
52:48
yeah, an amazing team. And when we come to in a moment doing our Pusher is going to be in your
52:54
top three, this is so hard, isn't it? This is so hard. I mean, you could you could do two of your
52:59
top three being the two into your Pol cars. And I think you'd be a well, I'm going to go
53:04
for it first this time. And I'm going to say for my top three, and good God, this is difficult.
53:13
Because I feel as if there's five of those cars that you can be taking a punt
53:19
that could make it there. I'm going to go for the 22 United car. United seem to have got their head
53:28
back around strategy again. First time in a couple of years, finally they seem to have nailed it back
53:33
in. I'm going to go for the 29 fresh tier racing by Panes car. I am so tempted by the Dacain team
53:43
efforts. But I'm going to say the 43 into your Pol car, Dilman, Shbikowski, Yellow Lee. So 43,
53:55
29, 22. And I'm going to go for United to win it.
54:06
Okay. Okay. And Mark of how competitive this class is. And by the way, that's not the same car as I
54:15
said, when we were asked for a press release that by now will be all over the internet for the
54:19
predictions for the 23 hours of TV. And that's not the car that I said would win it. I've changed my
54:26
mind. Heads and your bets. I'm going to go the nine proton. The 43 and the 30. So the 43 into your
54:43
Pol the 30 Dacain. I'm going to say the nine proton wins. Wow. No pressure here on us.
54:57
I just something about that effort.
55:00
Fresh read is listening to this down. Oh, no.
55:07
A few keeps it steady that Ota carry King double act could be a sight to say they are both
55:13
you know what they are both potential breakthrough drivers. Yeah. And then I'm going to go second
55:21
being the 43 and the 30 Dacain getting on the podium. It's a bewitchingly close P2 and P2 Pro
55:31
Am. He wouldn't surprise me if the top three featured none of the cars mentioned. I completely
55:35
agree. I think that's that's what I love so much about this is that you know, we've seen time and
55:41
time again in LMP to at Le Mans just somebody that the one I remember vividly was a massive
55:50
turnaround for James Allen, who'd been struggling to unlock his own potential came to them on
55:58
what seems like five or six years ago and just blew everybody away, made a mistake at the end
56:04
of the race. But until that point was mesmerically quick. That's kind of what is going on with that
56:10
car. And it wasn't what's going on with that car. It was James Allen having finally understood
56:15
how to get the best out of that package. And that race and frankly, since then,
56:22
he's been a guy that you have to watch the same for the likes of Oli Gray, the same for the likes of
56:27
your young for new to we've seen it happening time and time again, but that car rewards a
56:33
particular style. It's quite an analog race car. And once somebody with talent gets to understand
56:40
what's required, my God, they're fun to watch. And I said fair number of them. You talked about
56:46
Harry King. You talked to like Kaki Ota. We talked about Alex Quinn, you know, you name it, there
56:52
are probably 10, 15, 20 drivers there. That if you are if you know what you're looking for,
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and you're able to stand trackside and a challengingly quick part of the circuit,
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you're going to wait for that car to come by lap after lap just to take in exactly what skill is
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being shown at that point. It's the hypercar waiting room Grand Prix. And I love it. There's so many
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names in there that if there's a single moment where hypercars not delivering an LMGT3 and not
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delivering the goods, you know that the cameras are going to cut to an LMP2 battle and it's going
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to be awesome. So yeah, really, far really looking forward to LMP2. I hope it gets the airtime it
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deserves during the race. I hope so. I mean, we'll be certainly encouraging our production team to be
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looking for where the big battles are. There's going to be big battles in P2, no doubt whatsoever
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about it. It's going to be a crowded track, remember. And part of the big problem is we've got four
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classes and we're struggling to tell you who we think is going to be the top three. I think we
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could equally struggle if it was top five or even the top 10 per class, apart from LMP2 per arm,
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because there's only nine of them. That's awesome, Graham. So that's LMP2 and LMP2 per arm. It's
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LeMond is just around the corner. Yeah, just the packing and the other stressful stuff to go.
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Am I wrapping this one or are you wrapping it? You wrap it, Graham. I'll take it home. Thanks to
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Stephen Kilby. Thanks as well, of course, back over the pond to Marshall Pro-Whip for the platform
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Marshall Pro-Whip podcast, the Week in Sports Cars. This has been LMP2 and LMP2 pro ham, our preview
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for the 94th 24 hours of LeMond. Remember, too, to our shows covering both the LMGT3 and, of course,
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the hypercar classes. Have a listen in before your watch party or indeed on your run down to the
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great race itself. He's been Stephen Kilby, the editor of Daily Sports Car and the Sports Car
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Racing Correspondent for Racer across the United States. I'm Graham Goodwin. I'm the editor-in-chief
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for Daily Sports Car and you can watch and listen to our outputs as part of the LeMond TV
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efforts on the app and on the broadcast partners we've got through Race Weekend into Race Day
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Proper. With thanks, of course, to the Justice Brothers and Toronto Motorsports.com. That's our
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show for this year. We will be with you with all sorts of audio and video content during Race Week.
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Watch for news and features and, of course, the race reporting on Daily Sports Car and Racer
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with our full team there. For now, though, that's enough for this week. We will talk to you in Race