Local musician TRIGGA3 joins Jay Penning to discuss his journey from the car community to music. They explore the challenges of identity and mental health, emphasizing the importance of separating oneself from material possessions like cars. TRIGGA3 shares his experiences with building a car club, the toxicity he faced, and how it led him to rediscover himself through music. The conversation touches on the creative process, the struggles of being an independent artist, and the significance of genuine connections in both the car and music worlds.
From the creative genius of the car show world to reinventing himself into the music world, John Hoebee III is the musician known as Trigga3.
After 2020, no longer satisfied with the toxicity of the local car scene, in 2022, Trigga3 released his first single. Now in 2023, with multiple songs available Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and SoundCloud, Trigga3 is targeting the music charts across the globe. Hear his story in this episode of a car guy leaving the car world behind.
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I appreciate it. So blessing, I'll be here.
So this is really my first time having a real conversation with you because we've had conversations on this on social media about cars years ago. 2020 comes, I think we were the last
time we had. Like a car conversation was, The
Fuel Fest was coming up and we were talking about exchanging some tickets. Fuel Fest got postponed.
Next time I see you, you're done with the cars.
I don't know if you're completely done, but you were done, at least at the time, so you might be coolly done.
We had a really micro conversation about your personality. Anyone's personality is wrapped
too much, their identity is too much, wrapped up into their car, and people need to remember you. For you, not for your car.
And then you spent the time investing in yourself.
So First off. What's up with the change?
What's going on with it? And we'll get into the music and
the why in a little. Bit, yeah.
So I mean for about 5 years I was building my car and I started with the 2016 Ford Focus St.
There's a brand new car. So I started getting into cars
more heavily in that aspect around that time.
And then some things in life happened and then I pretty much started a car club called Unashamed Racing.
I remember that. Yeah, yeah.
And then I kind of, you know, expanded off of that for quite a few years, probably like 3 plus years.
And then as that time went by, I saw, I started seeing a change just in the car community. Just started realizing like it
was just about cars, like wasn't really about the people, you know, so many people that I had specifically in my GroupMe being the leader. I saw so much potential in, but
it kind of just got crowded like you know, with just focusing on who won, who can win awards and stuff like that.
And it just became a just a competition show, you know.
So I started getting into more seriousness as far as building the the new St. because I did have two, some people think I
had just one. I ended up getting a second one
and you know, it had some crazy raps done by rap sesh, some other people as well. I did a lot from, you know, air
suspension, all that kind of stuff.
And I got a lot of sponsors. I got a lot of, I guess you
could say clout and I was building the car, not necessarily as focused on. The clout aspect, but more
making a difference in kids, kids world, you know, because there's a lot of kids that looked up to people in the car community, you know, it's one of those things that some of those people we got too focused on who had the best car, you know, who had, who had the best look, you know, quality, you know, everybody was all about quality which.
Totally understandable. But we we got so competitive to
the point where we lost the people, you know.
So I feel like, I feel like the the community just needs to to take a step back and like realize that there's still, there's still people out there that have more to share than just a car, you know, because we could just one day, you know, you never know that car can be gone, that person.
I mean, it can be gone, too. Are you going to remember them
for the car? Are they going to remember them
for who they are? You know, so I started taking a
step back, you know, in 2020, specifically with COVID and everything. I started seeing just a lot of
things change in my personal life.
And, you know, that was kind of the road to my journey of finding myself, of where I am today and where I'm going.
So, you know. I love, I miss my car and miss I
miss all that stuff, but you know, it's just not who I am.
So despite how the people want to view it, you know so.
Yeah, because everyone who you meet in the car community, and you're right, because it is a car community, the end of the day they remember you for the car for sure.
When I first moved here, when I was getting people's names, if I couldn't remember their name, I would type the car in my contacts and they would pop up. You know John in a sex Arizona,
I'm like, Oh yeah, that's John, you know.
But at some point you have to separate the person from from the vehicle. And it's funny that you you say
that because this podcast to its core is designed to and we've kind of gotten off track of that a little bit.
But it's it's grabbing people that I've met.
Or they're in the car community and we talk about cars for 5 minutes if that. And then it gives me and the
listeners an opportunity and the viewers, in this case, an opportunity to learn who this person is Because as you'll, as you know firsthand, the people you see at these car meets.
Hey, what's up, man? How you doing?
You don't know nothing about it. You don't know what they're
going through. You know?
So yeah, that's that's why you're here.
Because we wanted to have this conversation because like I said, the last time that I saw you, you were kind of, we were we were talking about. You're about to leave the cars
behind. You've rediscovered yourself.
What was it? Is there anything you can share
about what what caused that change?
Was there like an in single incident or sequence of incidents like what happened? It's it's quite a few different
type of incidents. I just, you know, it's crazy how
life works. It's some of the people that
were in the community that were basically I was leading in my car club. They came back to me a couple
years ago and realized what I was doing and they took what they they took what I had and what I was doing for granted cuz I did get pretty much abandoned by pretty much all the people that have put my time effort. I mean, I put my money, I put
everything into these people just to make them shine more than myself. I was still building, you know,
my car to shine as a as a leader.
But I started one thing that I really took pride on with building cars was just actually being there for people.
You know, like building people's characters up.
And you know, the thing that honestly really took a turn into events was, you know, a relationship that I was in.
That was probably the one of the main things, because I also didn't know who I was. I was chasing status is what I
was doing. And I started realizing after,
you know, building cars and everything, you know, there's just just like Rad or Die talks about.
She talks about mental health, something that honestly really turned everything away from the car scene was.
My, I realized that my mental health was not okay.
So with that mental health aspect, I started taking, you know, everything into consideration.
Like, I can't keep living like this, you know?
And I can't sit here and put a mask on and try to cover it up.
And there's so many people out there that do that, and it's so easy for them to do that because they're so busy working on cars all the time. To the point where they forget
about who they are and working on themselves, you know?
So yeah, it honestly just just seeing the toxicity from, you know, just the people I would deal with all the time, even though I was just trying to be a good human being towards these people, you know, it was just people just take it for granted, you know, I hope that there is change.
I still believe in change. I never put it on the pedestal
of where you see these people, you know, building cars like all they're not, you know, the best type of people where they want to take in consideration that you know, there's more to life than just. Building cars, you know how.
Dare you? I'm just sad.
I love it. See, I still appreciate cars.
I still appreciate those relationships, You know, like our relationship, like we barely know each other.
But there's that. There's that unforceable desire
to actually get to know each other, you know what I mean?
And I feel like something with cars always like I could.
I'll stand for it to the day I die, like.
Cars is a good gateway for people to express themselves.
You know, it's it's a, it's a form of art.
You know anything you do in life that's a passion is a form of art. So I see that as that was my art
for a while and it turned into, you know as as what I do now is you know making music. So there's always these
different type of forms of art. You just got to you got to know
how to. Find your beauty in it and and
find your passion, you know find what What are you trying to accomplish? Because people do things and
they don't have goals. They just have these goals of
making money and they just have these goals of reaching a status, but they don't really have a goal to fulfill people and that's something that we lose sight on too much.
So yeah, that's that's that's where you know my mental health is honestly the the the breaking point of when I kind of separated from. The car scene, just, it just was
too much. I realized it over time and I
dealt with the repercussions of it.
And, you know, but. Like what kind of what kind of
repercussions? I mean, there's a lot of stuff
that's hard to talk about. I don't know if it's explicit
enough for this podcast, but, you know, just attempted suicides and, you know, stuff like that.
Some people think that. And why is that?
Is that is it because your your identity was wrapped so much into the car scene And admittedly that's how I knew you and that's all I knew about you. And then now you've removed that
aspect and maybe since I've lost 2020, all all the above.
Yeah, it's it's it's honestly like it's one of those things that it's. I know a lot of people deal with
in the car community. I've seen it firsthand.
I've I've seen I've lost about three friends in the past two years from, you know, suicide. And it's a very hard thing that
people really don't take the time to comprehend fully you know, mental health, how important it is where wherever you are in life and just a judgment.
I feel like the judgment just being judged my whole life.
How I've looked, what I do, you know, just being the person I am, simply that those are things that just trinkled up as I grew up. You know, I've made some songs
about it, you know, is it's it hasn't gotten better, it's just gotten worse, you know. And I've one way to cope with it
is to acknowledge it and to admit that, look, I'm dealing with this and you know, that's how you get better in life.
But. Yeah, it's just 20/20 was a hard
year especially being at home all the time like I was all I I don't know about you, but I was, I was at home trying to figure out what to what to do with the car all the time.
Like what am I going to do this like after I get this COVID check right here and then you know what am I going to do with this and this and that. So and then obviously coming up
with shows like big shows to small shows like I remember those weekends where I would. Dedicate those weekends to
literally just focusing on getting the car ready and you know, obviously getting the team ready.
You know, doing things like that, figuring out ways to put ourselves out there, you know, in a way where we can get more recognition, so. Yeah, really.
At the end of the day, that's accurate.
And I mean, I did the car show scene as well in.
You know, you get the sponsors, like you said earlier, Now you owe the sponsors, you owe them the photo shoots.
You owe them all the cloud on social media.
Then when you're done with that, it's like I don't like I don't.
I'll go to a car show once in a while now.
Now I go to car. Like cars and coffee but if it's
and I'm not you know crapping on any of these shows but if it's like import face off or some of these other shows.
I have 0 interest. Yeah lead tuner.
I go to Sport Ranger you know but I haven't gone to the last couple ones because I no longer have it.
What I consider a show car and for the people who look at us car people is yeah we have a cool car but there's they don't see the hours they don't see the they don't see you losing yourself behind the creativity of that car.
And you're up till, you know, three or four in the morning knowing you knew about this show for months to get your car ready. And then you get up in the
morning at 5:36 for your rolling.
And then you're there all day long when you're done with these shows like you are like I essentially am, you can go when you want, if you even want to go, you know, and that's such a huge, like burden off of what you do.
But then you, you know, then what are you going to do, right.
So I turned to podcasting. Because I no longer travel.
I've been. I used to travel every week for
most of my kids life. I I would see you.
I would see you. Hosting from somewhere.
Yeah, somewhere else. I I don't even know where this
fool is like. But it's, you know, do I want to
rebuild my gaming computer or do I want to focus on the podcast like yourself with your music? And my friend Wes said this.
People want to know you for you. I don't want to necessarily be
associate, associate you directly with something material exactly, unless you're doing something.
So with you and the music, you made that transition.
What was that like at first? Because that's difficult.
I mean, that's got to, that's got to be even more difficult than doing anything with cars, right?
Yeah, it's very difficult, especially when everybody knew me for a car and I built my my TikTok to my Instagram, my whole following. Is I went from 40K on Instagram
to I'm now at 32 K going down. You know, like that to me is a
big mindset shift like where you can either take this as a positive or you can take this as a negative.
There's so many different ways that you can go about on that.
Same thing with TikTok. I went from 160 I think now 129
K, you know, so views. Likes all that stuff.
The the years that the hard work prior to me blowing up on Tiktok for a video. I don't even remember the I have
the videos still, but I took them down just because I was.
I was still getting views and I was trying to break the algorithm and everything. And that's one of the biggest
things that when I first started off doing the transition because some people don't know what I was actually in between that time of me actually. Going into music I was doing, I
was trying to stay in the car community.
I was really trying. I went from the St. to ended up
actually. It's crazy story.
I put about $45,000 into that car over time, paid the car off everything this. Is the second one.
Yeah, this was the second one. So the but everybody knew it as
Prime, Optimus Prime pretty much because I did have that wrap and then I turned it into black. Once I decided just because of
some relational situation, I obviously was like, you know what? That's more important to me than
a car. So I decided I needed to release
that ego. Ego is like the biggest thing
that I had to let go. And so I let it go.
And once I did that, I actually did it with somebody from New Mexico. Somebody from New Mexico with a
370Z came all the way out here just to trade cars and then drive my car back. No cash, nothing.
I just. Straight.
Up, just straight up trade. And honestly, did I lose in that
situation, think I did in a way, you know, cuz I just put a lot of money into it prior to that a month ago.
So you know, I got, I got into that and then I had, I got.
Another car. It was at FRS because I miss
driving manual. I I hate driving automatic cars.
I don't know about you, but I'm just not big on automatic cars.
But yeah, so I did that, and then I got a truck and then I sold that. And then that's when I decided
to let go completely. I was driving my mom's car for a
while. I'll be honest, I was driving my
mom's car around, just figuring out life, what I was going to do. Then I got my feet wet in the
industry, the music industry and what got.
You into that. It's so weird like how you just,
you kind of, you attract the energy that you give out.
And I was at, I was at a bar just, you know, just how it went out just to get my mind off of things.
And this guy came up to me, he was an artist and he was like, hey, be my manager. And I was just like, what?
I don't, I don't know what to do.
Like I I've never done this ever before.
But me as who I am, I don't. I don't sway away from stuff
like that, you know? With that being said, like I
ended up just kind of going cold blooded in it, you know?
So I mean, what were you doing for this?
Person to come up Did you just do like a performance?
Were you just sitting there drinking a Dos Equis I?
Was literally, it was outside of the bar and I was about to leave and it was, it was closing time. It was like 1:00 AM in the
morning. And this guy that I'm going to
be honest, this artist was, you know, a little bit of tipsy, but he was serious, you know and you know, next day and everything.
We started slowly getting into things, developing relationship and then. Well, I obviously sold my truck
and everything and I ended up putting a lot of money into him.
You know with that being said, that's kind of what sunk me into there. I got him a distribution deal
through a a concert like competition that was out here in Mesa. And then you know after shortly
after that it was probably like almost a year goes by.
This is where we. Basically split ties and I
started taking a step back and realizing that I was just it felt like I was in the car community again if it really did. Yeah, I can only imagine you
know having talked and you know talked to to Mimi rather die as you'd referenced earlier, she is, she is current musician and has been like in the industry for a long time.
Which I didn't know. I didn't know she was in the
music like that. And then she posted actually I.
Believe it or not she she's never told me that.
We've had multiple conversations and she, I, she posted something about her music and I was just like what she makes music.
I mean come on let's make a song.
Like, I mean I feel like we could really connect because I don't really. Just when I make music, I want
to connect with the person. You know I've made music with
people that I just don't connect with.
And it's just it's just not like it doesn't feel like it's it's natural you know. So but yeah, you know I got.
After that I started, I got a manager and then he helped me get basically my feet wet because I had two other artists that I knew that was try to collaborate with my old artist that I was managing. And they told me, you know what,
you should Trey, you should be, you should be an artist.
And I was like, Nah, I I don't know if I have.
I have what it takes. And I got all these negative
thoughts in my mind, things that people have told me in the past.
You know. Like what?
Like I you Can't Sing. You know you can't, you can't
rap, you know you can't do this. You can't do that like gruesome
stuff, right. That's just kind of like the
clean version of it. Because I still, I still replay
the visions in my head that I had to go through.
At least when I would sing in the car.
We we, I don't know about you, but we sing in the shower, we sing in the, you know. So it's one of those things like
every time I would do it, I would just get put down.
And yeah. And then after that I was like,
you know what, let's do it. So I sit there.
I made, I still have my first song that I ever made.
It was absolutely trash. I'll be honest, I don't know
what I was doing. And the guy that was helping me
trying to write because like I had this is stuff, I was like an infant again, you know, teaching myself all these things.
And I just, I didn't know how to do it, you know, and so.
After that, shortly after that I started actually making music with my manager and you know, it was good.
I'm gonna be honest, it was I to this day I hate my music from when I first started and it's been today.
It's been a year from actually the 3rd, June 3rd.
It's been a year since I started making music.
Like actually making music. You.
Have a lot of stuff out there. I was I was SoundCloud creeping
you earlier. SoundCloud.
Yeah, that's where I put all my unreleased.
I like to just because I look up to Juice World.
You know, rest in peace to Juice World.
But you know, as far as, you know how he did his music, some other artists like Little Peep. You know, those people I've
looked up to, you know, how they make their music.
It's real. They they talk about their life,
you know, they talk about, you know, what they've been through.
Not all of it's good, you know, positive.
But for the most part it's they're actually dealing with it, you know? It's their expression.
It's their car. Exactly.
It's their project car. It's their music.
And that's what I like to look at music as.
It's like it's my new project car, you know, I had all these other project cars before where I would spend countless hours, midnight my ex-girlfriend and her mom saying go to bed.
No, no, no, that's not how this works.
I would sit there. I would, I would put one little
detail on there after another detail.
I'd sit there in the garage. My car is baby garaged, like
it's in there and I'm not driving or anything, and I see dust on it, you know, it's ceramic coated and whatnot.
I'm sitting there still detailing it and it's freaking 2:00 o'clock at night and it's like the next morning.
What do I do before I go? I wipe it off like my OCD kicked
in. Crazily, like madly it was just
yeah that was just how and everybody knew me for how clean my car was. So you know it was one of those
things and I it's crazy to this day.
Now as part one of the things that I do on the side you know to help fund you know my independent artist fund is detailing cars. You know, so I detail cars.
You know I I'm obviously I have my other job that's my full time job. But I do that on the side and
it's actually a good. Stress reliever in a way.
But it's also, it makes me kind of miss the cars a little bit, You know, It starts making me think, oh, what kind of car should I get? You know, when I'm ready to get
another car, am I going to build it?
I mean, Oh no, that's not my focus.
But is it going to be hard? Yeah, we'll see.
Because sometimes when I say something, I do the opposite.
Like, I I try not to, but. What is your day job?
My day job is everybody. Just looks at me and goes like
like what? Like I'm a a manager at a cake
shop. What?
No, hey, that's fine. Yeah, they they come in, they
come in and they see me and they're like, who's this dude?
I'm a wrong store, you know, just because I look, you know?
But it's like when you first talk to me.
And that's one of the things that my focus, my goal is you see me, You don't judge a book by its cover.
We judge too many books by their covers, and it's like you actually just give people like me, like the people out there that have tattoos on their face and stuff.
Not everybody's scary just because that one person that may have committed a crime or something like that, I have a clean record. It's going to stay.
There's a. Stereotype.
Yeah, there's the. Higher up your tattoos go the
more you know, crazy stereotypes.
Are like I get the how much time have you done?
I haven't done any time I haven't like at all.
So, you know, it's one of those things that, yeah, being a manager is at a cake shop. It's called Buddy Cakes, It's in
Scottsdale and I have to get some.
I was going to bring you some, but I don't today's my day off.
So that's going to be another day unless you're on a diet, because if you're on a diet, they're not good on a diet.
So. Yeah, I hate the good cakes.
Like, I'll skip the protein cakes for now.
Well, we do have a peanut butter one.
Oh, that's how we're trying. To sell cakes on.
A pot. That's right.
Yeah. Yeah.
What is the address of that? Where can we go?
So how would you describe your look for the people consuming this on audio? Yeah, so fully tatted.
Head to toe. Face tats.
Clean face tats. Tattoos with meaning, it's,
it's. You see, you don't have like, a
tweety bird on your tricep or anything.
No, I don't have a I don't have one of those.
Honestly. I have pretty much.
I mean I have some mess around tattoos on here.
You know, I got, I mean I have like the Louis Vuitton, like look, right here I got the Drew House just because, you know, one of my inspiring artists is Justin Bieber.
So people throughout my childhood have always said you look like Justin Bieber. Or I get the 1:00 I've every
time I'm in LA, Every time I'm in Lai, get an MGK comment.
Oh, of course, right. So it's like you know if you
want to see or if you're just listening to an audio of this just envision on MGK mix with a Justin Bieber and a little peep those are like the three that I like to mix.
Now picture that. Selling you cakes?
Yeah, managing cake employees, right?
Yeah, but it's a very, I would, I would, I don't even know if I would describe it as a modern look, but it's a very modernly accepted look for most normal people.
You know, the old schoolers, you know they're going to judge.
But I would imagine if you walk past, you know, a a a quartet of kids. You know, school age kids,
they're going to look at you like you're freaking Superman.
Like, look at that dude. He's so he's so cool looking.
Who is that? Is that MGK?
No. Exactly.
No, that's that's the last time it was some kids.
It's usually always kids that come by.
One kid, it was in LA and it was it was off of Rodeo Dr. And
yeah, one of these kids were just being a holes pretty much.
You can say assholes. Assholes.
Like they were literally being assholes.
Kids. Kids, man.
I don't even know I want kids. But then I'm like.
How this world is right now, it's just.
The world is the world. The world is the world and we
trying to make it a better place.
So that's my goal as as an artist and as a human being.
You know, cars are always going to be part of my life.
So you know, it's regardless if I'm not building cars.
Like it's just it sucks. Like one thing that's mentally
kind of shitty is the people that I.
Really had good friendships and relationships with in the car community. Once they started saying that I
wanted to be doing something else other than cars, unfollow.
Yeah, it's kind of like when you leave a job.
I've talked about this I think before you could hang out with somebody every day. You can go to lunch with them
every day at work. As soon as you're no longer
there, you keep in touch a little bit and before you know it's six months a year, two years gone by and y'all could have been best coworkers at the time, because you're just, you're just. Detached from that environment
that you know you all knew each other so well for.
Codependency. Yep, that's it.
That's one thing that, oh, I could talk about for a very long time, because now I'm independent.
I go to lunch by myself, I go to the movies by myself, I go, I go places by myself. All the time I've been, you
know, as as I've portrayed in the car community with my club and everything. You know, I am a Christian, you
know, But I don't. Push it onto people.
I just be myself and who comes. They come as they are.
That's just how I live my life, if you.
Actually, you actually have a track.
So we're recording this on Monday, June 5th, but you have a track that's going to be out by the time this comes out.
It releases in five days. It's kind of like just what
basically what you just said to me.
Listen to that earlier. Yep, Yep.
Yeah, that's that's one of the things that.
I mean, it's just if you just be yourself like you'll, you'll be surprised how many people out there will just.
Latch on to it, you know, You know, people that have a story, there's so much I could write a book.
I mean, I started writing a book three years ago.
I don't know where it's at because life happened, you know?
But it doesn't mean I could never write a book again, You know, There's just so much meaning in what I've done, you know, and continue to do, You know, I'm not done.
Jobs, not finished. Jobs not finished?
How would you describe your music?
How would you describe your music, your message and your sound? Like, like, genre first as far
as because because. It's kind of in a kind of in a
mixed genre when I listen to it. Yeah it's it's honestly it's
it's a mixture of hyper pop to rap hip hop and it's it's a mixture it's a mixture of all those like into one.
So if you like NF I don't know if you've heard of NF very he's he's I mean he's going up on charts you know I.
Don't know shit about music these days.
Well, this. Guy this guy NF People know who
NF is. Car community knows about Juice
World. I I can tell you that right now
if you know about Suicide boys, if you know about people like that because that is music that people make car content with.
And my music is more of like a sad boy type of music you know and but it's also happy music but it's just it's just really authentic. I like to put it in perspective
as like it's authentic real. Sad, happy music is what it is.
And I like to not put myself in a category because if I can only do one thing, what does that make me?
You know, it's like if you can only build 1 car, what does that make you? You know what I mean?
So, like, it's one of those things like expand your horizons. There's so many things in life
that you can do so many things. I'm making my own art, you know,
I'm making my own brand. Like I'm doing all this stuff
from scratch. It's not perfect, not yet.
You know, it's honestly going to never be perfect, but it's always going to expand and it's always going to mold together, you know, more and more as time goes by.
But yeah, it's my music is, it's just a mixture of like I got, I got the rap, you know, but I like to sing, so I really like to get in the fields. That's what I like to do with my
music. What is your ultimate goal for
your music? There's a lot of goals.
There's a lot of goals. I mean the first and foremost
goals to make a difference in people's lives.
That's one of the biggest things that I strive for as a human being, just making people around me better, you know, people need to be better in life, you know? I mean, I wear it on my pants.
It says be better, like be better in life, like have a better mindset. I remember waking up every day
for years. Having a terrible mindset after
years of training, being a basketball player, because prior to I've had stages of my life. I went from an athlete to a car
influencer to a musician. So I've had three stages of my
life where I've had to basically start over, you know, And so my my goal as as an artist is to. You know, continue.
Because I am impacting lives just by small numbers right now.
And I am humble about those people that I get to impact, that actually get to listen to my music, that actually take the time, you know, not to listen to just these mainstream artists, you know what I mean? We forget about where all these
mainstream artists started. This world had like 200 people
on his Twitter. Just Twitter and he blew up off
of SoundCloud. I'm not a SoundCloud rapper.
I don't want to be known as a SoundCloud rapper.
But you know, just one of the things that I really want to do is just, you know, impact people, plain and simple.
That's everything else, You know, I want to obviously build a family, build my life off of music.
It's you can build your life off of your passion, you know, the money and everything like that. That's.
That's just an additive to me in my opinion.
You've done, I think you've done performances.
I have. I've done two, and I actually
have one in Los Angeles on Monday, next Monday, so a week from today. So how did you go about cuz
you're independent? How did your managers helped
find those for you? So my manager, my first manager,
he hasn't been in the picture for a very long time.
Went on by myself pretty much from last August of 2022, I'm pretty sure. Yes, August 2022 is when I
started basically just being like, you know what?
I need to start my brand. Because three months prior to
that is about 3 months. That's when I was making music
at first. So I had three months of just
him being my manager and then I cut ties on that and then I started doing my own thing is when I started figuring out okay, I need a logo. I need a vision and I need a
purpose. That's what I need right now.
And so that's what I started doing.
And then I had a manager that I ended up actually, crazily.
It's a crazy story How I Met my manager.
Now he's in Canada, like. Let me guess, you were at a bar?
No, it was. It was not.
It was not at a bar this time. It was actually out of bungalow.
Okay. So do you know if you know what
a bungalow is? Yeah.
So for the people out there that don't know what a bungalow is, it's where you go pretty much at a hotel.
It's a hostel and meet people you've never met with and sleep with people you've never been ever with.
So this is my first time doing it, especially in the heart of LA, West Hollywood. First thing you walk out in the
gates, you see a bunch of. You know, homelessness and it's
it's very, it's very heartbreaking.
But it's also there's people out there that, you know, you got to watch it back for. And me obviously knowing that,
you know, just being an LA guy from here, one of the things that I started learning is like when I went, I kept going on these trips. This was my third trip to LA.
And I was just going up there for actually a united Masters independent celebrating independency.
Russ was there a couple other artists that were independent artists. They're they're doing things on
their own. They're not signed by anybody.
I got to see some big time artists like Wiz Khalifa, Jayz was there, DJ Khalid, you know, a bunch of people, they were in the, obviously in the in the stands and everything.
But I was leaving next morning. And I was going to my car and I
was, it was a weird it was just staring like I was just, I had my, I just got a shower and I was sleeping in my car.
I sleep in my car when I go to LA just because, you know, they're just those spontaneous like quick couple day trips.
Like I'd rather put that that those funds into my music.
But you know, I stayed at this bungalow.
I it's a gated community and I slept in the car.
Then I took a shower. That's why I paid for that you
know, aspect, because it's like 20 bucks or whatever.
And I was putting my stuff in there before I checked out and this guy in this red hoodie, he was just sitting there in the game room staring, we locked eyes.
It was really weird. And I'm just like still trying
to wake up. I haven't had my, my Joe.
Like I haven't had that yet or anything.
And I'm like closing my door and then next thing you know it, I I get he's like, hey, like he gets up and he he's like runs up to me. He's like.
I feel like God told me to come over here and start talking to you. There's just something about
your aura. There's just something about how
you present yourself. Everybody in the complex has
been saying that you're a music artist, that you're you're performing this and that and everything.
And like everybody like kind of just gravitated on that.
They just just how I was just being myself.
And then I ended up. Shortly after that, he was like,
hey, I'm out here for and I can't say the other details for it, but he was out there for some specific stuff for his acting and for his management that he does through through Canada. And yeah, he ended up doing all
that. And then he told me, hey, let's,
let's, let's go for lunch, let's talk about this.
And we started talking, you know, on pretty much.
It was like a couple hours shortly after that and I walked Hollywood for a little bit, met with him, sat down and then we I ended up staying for two more nights with him and we just kind of bonded together. And then crazy story after that,
my, my second performance was for a Super Bowl thing.
It was, it was, it was this, it was an experience.
Let's just say that I was expecting a lot better like experience, but I made it worthwhile.
Like I hired somebody to video take pictures as well.
And then obviously the crazy story of how my manager was actually, he ended up coming from LA.
He took a bus at, it was like 12:00 o'clock at night in LA, took a charter bus or whatnot, and then came, stayed in a red shack, like a red shack in South Mountain, like.
It was, it was a kind of a scary little situation.
Yeah, it was. It was, it was crazy.
And then we, you know, we he ended up staying here for about a week and we were just spending time, you know, doing a bunch of things. We went up to Sedona, we filmed
content and everything. And then, yeah, that's basically
how I ended up meeting my manager and you know, doing the shows like the first. That was my second show.
My first show was. Back in last June when I just
started making music, it was at a carousel.
It was at a bar. Yeah, let's.
What was that like? We're not talking.
I was going to say it like, let me catch you because I could see it coming. Like, yeah, so.
It was a lot of people liked my performance.
Like, I mean, I did get some, you know, good fans, I guess you could say from it. It was nice, like I was grateful
for that, but. The music, it wasn't me.
Something a lot of people don't know, and I'm not afraid to say it is. I didn't write my own music when
I first started my Moving Forward album that I have out.
That is the first album that I came back with.
I wrote every single song in there, every single song, and from that to to today, I've written every single song.
I have so much unreleased music that, you know, I obviously have taken a lot of time crafting my creativity and you know, my sound. I also invested in my sound,
just like you've invested in, you know?
The studio. Your studio, you know, it's you
find ways to enhance your passion, you know, and I had to take a step back and I was like, you know what I need to enhance my? My music career, I need to go to
the right path, so you know it's I spent over like $5000 in just equipment and then obviously engineering.
Myself. It is.
It's people don't get it. Like it's expensive, all the
shirts. Just all my beats I purchase.
I purchase all my cover art. If I don't end up making it
myself because I do collaborations still, you know, it's it's just one of those things that like life never ends. When you're when you're having
fun, I guess you could say. How do you pick the songs go on
your albums? You sit down with your manager.
Do you sit down with a small focus group of like, family?
Because I know you do everything independently on your own.
Or do you just like, I'm feeling this, I'm feeling this?
Or just like, I want this album to have a certain feel?
Yeah, So I love this song, but I don't think it goes on this album. Exactly.
Yeah. So it's crazy how you say that
because I've. Started realizing as me growing
as an artist, I've taken a step back and thought like, listen, like I need a I I want to structure things a little bit more smoothly, you know, because I'm I moving forward.
My first album, my actual album of my own music.
That album I had some sad and then I had some rap.
It's like I was talking about my ex and then I was talking about like the song Happy Meal. Like it's it's a very it's like
a Halloween type of music like song.
It's talking about if you don't like clowns I'm sorry but you know you got hey Georgie like you got you know you got all that and stuff and I I metamorphically made it to where it kind of it's a it's a hype song you know and then I have one I made about Tom Brady called Black Sheep.
You know so. There's one of those things that
like when you when you come into consideration of structuring how you want to structure the the albums, the EPS and then the singles, I've just taken a step back and thought like I need to have a better structure. So, you know, putting sad songs
but also having a couple hype songs, you know, what is this?
What is this? Because I have so many names
right now on my phone that I'm actually thinking about dropping an album here shortly. I don't know when yet because
I'm honestly focused on because I was just doing EPS and and albums because I was. I just wanted to get the music
out there. But then I took a step back and
I was like, I have so much music, but I need to, I need to.
I need to know that like this is going to be out there forever, you know? And I want.
That's good thinking about forward thinking there.
Yeah, exactly. It's like and I've been more
selective. On what I put out there, more as
far as like quality of what I've you know, how how I wrote the song, how full it is, you know this and that.
Like there's just so many things because I have different style beats. Like I have the NF, the hard
stuff. NF when I bring up NF that means
I've I've brought up like hard rap beats pretty much.
I have those and then I have the juice world.
What I mainly do is the sad music and stuff like that.
The Hyper Pop. So do I want to mixtureize Hyper
Pop and pretty much hip hop and rap, you know, onto one album or do I want to just put one? So it kind of just it's one of
those things. It's very hard to, as an artist
to put a certain amount of songs like cuz right now I could drop 2 albums if I wanted to. Am I going to do it?
Probably not, because I I know for a fact I want to release a couple of the songs, at least six of the songs I have as singles, prior to releasing some albums with those songs on it.
Because I believe in a lot of the songs that, especially right now, the songs that I'll be coming out with the next couple months. I can tell you right now,
there's one Billboard song in there.
There's one Billboard. I'm I'm confident enough.
He's coming. I'm coming.
Yeah. But you know it's it's one of
those things that I'm humble about my my growth.
You know I don't really, I do put myself out there, but I'm also very humble. More humble than most people
would think Like why why isn't this guy like putting this, this and that like when I just came from a photo shoot kind of little nerve wracking because I'm it was the vibes a little bit were you know. I needed some music, you know?
But, you know, it's it's one of those things that, yeah, is you got to keep expanding your horizons.
You know, I used to do photo shoots with my cars all the time, and now I'm sitting here doing photo shoots of myself.
Like it's a big transition, big transition I started doing.
It's weird because at the end of my car career, I was doing portraits with my car and myself.
So it's kind of when I look back and I'm like, okay, maybe I was giving kind of people a little hint or God was putting a hint in me that I didn't realize at the time until now.
Like it was just the car then, it was the car in me and then.
No, it's just you. Yeah, it's just me now.
The car. The car dissipated, you know,
just let go. Got a couple more questions for
you. What's the biggest thing up
until this point you think you've learned in the music industry? Know who you're around.
Know what you're doing, even if you don't know exactly fully what you're doing. Because there's a lot of things
I don't know yet, but there's tons of things that I've learned as an artist independently since I've been on my own.
I've selftaught a lot of my, my, my things that I've done, you know, from writing, selftaught myself through writing.
It's kind of weird. That I was able to do that but
it's just kind of more inspiring for those artists out there.
People may be in the car community that you know want to make music or that have it as a thought in their head you know tell you right now like but you could do anything you put your mindset you know to and so but the music industry itself is it's I mean there it has its IT has its.
Ups and it has its downs. You just got to pick and choose
where you want to end up, you know where you want to put yourself in like because at this point I'm representing my brand.
Like if I'm going to be around something music related, I want to make sure it represents my brand well.
So, you know, just be careful that's.
You just got to be careful. You got to protect yourself and
you got to, you got to know your ins and outs, what to do, who to who to invest your money that you've worked hard for, You know who you're giving it to. You know, to basically expand
your horizons because there's a lot of things that you know you you can't sell your soul. It's one thing I won't do, and
I'm fully probably going to say that I'm not going to sell my soul. No matter how, like if it came
down to that for me signing a huge record label deal, I would, I would turn that down just because character to me is more important than a costly situation, you know?
Let me ask you this. So in that example, is that
because once you sign those deals, based on what you've seen in or may have learned from others, you're basically surrendering your right? For independence.
And now those record labels, they want you to do certain songs, certain things. Now you you're contractually
obligated. Pretty much.
That's pretty much what you have to do.
You got to do what they say. Obviously you do have a say as
an artist, but you know, when I was doing management and everything, like there's a lot of stipulations that you have to go. There's so many different type
of guidelines, rules. There's just so much out there,
you know, just you just gotta you, you gotta, you gotta know who like you gotta read the fine print.
You got to read the red letters. You know, you got to read those
things because if you don't, you're going to trap yourself in a hole that you don't know if you can ever get out of, so.
So with that being said, from your transition from cars, going through your rough patch in 20/20/21, finding the music career and essentially starting over with a new outlet but still remaining yourself. What have you learned from
people in the last few years? A lot.
That's a very deep question. That's what I do.
That's a very deep question. That's what I do because I got
one more for you, but that's that's.
That's that. Oh man, what have I learned from
people? They come and go.
Yeah. They come and go.
I've been there. They come and go.
The reality of life itself is finding a connective group of people that want to see you win and succeed in life.
What, no matter what you're doing in life, like if you want to go do something else than cars, go do it.
You'll have those people that are in that community that truly are genuine supporting you. Like, that's one of the biggest
things that I've kind of learned is like, if you're in the car community and you see somebody that you looked up to or you know that was part of what you're doing.
You know, like a prime example that I absolutely am grateful for is yourself and Rat or die. And the one auto movement like
that is that's one of the things you guys don't just care about the cars, you care about the people, what they're passionate about. You know, it stands specifically
for cars, but it it, it has more meaning behind it.
You know, like you know, passion drives it, you know.
So it's one of those things that you just got to build yourself around. People stay connected with a
type of group like that. I feel like it's so rare to find
that in these days, you know, it's just we've lost sense of meaning, you know, it's more just get, get, get and it's not give, give, give, you know. So something I've learned from
people is just be careful who you trust, know yourself and just strive to be better in life, you know?
Yeah, you know, and it's not just a cliche, but you really do find out. Who's in your corner when you
feel like you're at your lowest in life?
Exactly. If you can't give people what
they're used to getting, whether it's you being the you know, the the person behind the car club, you know, that benefit, then what good are you to them? Exactly.
And let's say we're let's say we're genuinely invested in you as a person. Last question, this is kind of a
fun one. Cause you're an, you are an
artist. I'm like I say you're an
aspiring artist. You have songs out there.
I have a song. You have a song.
Yeah. When you six or eight months ago
you had hit me up and I and I'd it was like a premiere of the song and I had played it actually on one of my stories.
Oh yeah, I OK, I remember that. Yeah, I just don't.
Remember, Did you, did you ever get to post it, like actually on? Yeah, yeah.
It's been a while, but for sure, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Going to have to listen to it. Perception versus reality.
That's what's people. Yeah, that's the question.
What is the people's perception of what's going on with Trey versus the reality of Trigger 3? Oh boy.
See, there's so many things because.
Pick your biggest one, because there's a lot of them.
Yeah, there is perception versus reality of trigger three.
Okay. You know example you gave
earlier is like you know how much, how much time you spent in prison. You know the reality is I'm a
manager at A at A at a cake shop.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
You know, the perception that a lot of people get from me is I'm just out doing the things I used to do just because how late I I stay up. I did have a drug addiction that
I got back into. Just because of my depression
and anxiety and everything, and I fell back onto that.
And I'm not ashamed to to share it because I know a lot of people out there, they're, they struggle with that, you know?
And the first step for those people that are struggling is to admit you have a problem. And I had to admit that I had
problems. And the reality of it is I'm on
caffeine. That's what I am.
That's what keeps me up. I mean, insomnia does keep me
up, too. So people always are like, why
is this guy up at 3:00 AM and he has work at 7:00 AM in the morning? Work ethic, like what you see on
my Instagram, what you see on my Snapchat, whatever you see on social media today is who I am in reality.
And that's one of the biggest things that I told myself.
I'm not going to be like all these other people that try to put a, you know, picture. On social media, faking what
they actually are in reality, you know, for example, like a relationship or something like that.
You know, it's just one of those things that like you, you got to take a step back and think, am I going to portray myself in a different image from what people see like on an app versus my reality or am I just going to be all around?
A genuine person. So that's kind of one of the
things that, you know, perception to reality.
What you see on on my platforms is what you see in reality.
So that's probably one of my, I guess that would be a good one.
I want people to know. How can people follow your
music? I'm available on all streaming
major platforms. Amazon Music, Spotify, Apple
Music, SoundCloud. That's where I put all my
unreleased music, not all of it. Tesser.
Desert one of those. A lot of people don't.
I don't. Know a lot of people don't know
what A lot of people don't know what that one is.
And I honestly haven't even used it.
YouTube. I am on YouTube.
I do have one song that I did make a music video, actually independently made it in a music video.
It was all edited by me. Obviously I had some help.
I did it in Oklahoma City, so. Yeah, that was the start of it.
There's definitely a lot more stuff, but you know, as an independent artist, I am growing my fan base and I feel like this car community, if they liked the trigger three that they had with cars, they'll like the trigger three that's in music.
So I just feel like it would. It would be a great outlet.
Hopefully, you know, I get to perform at anything like I I'm open to any performances, so. Anybody's out there listening to
this? You know I'm ready.
Thanks, Trey. No, no problem.
Thank you. Hope you guys enjoyed Trigger
3IN Studio. Since we had that conversation a
few weeks ago, his song has come out.
It's called Summer Love. Check it out.
Trigger 3T. RIGGA, The number three.
Trigger Three. I bought the song on Apple, but
like he said it, the song is out there all over the place.
Summer Love. As you mentioned, his first
song, he didn't really like it that much.
It's called, I don't know, came out in 2022.
There's definitely a big difference between that and a lot of his later music, so make sure you guys check that out.
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