Mustang GTD rumored Nurburgring record time, Hyundai Boulder Concept and Chevy’s new LS6 engine
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Mustang GTD rumored Nurburgring record time, Hyundai Boulder Concept and Chevy’s new LS6 engine
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Car
Ford F-150 Lightning
The Ford Lightning is a special version of the Ford F-150 truck. People like it because it’s a faster, more exciting pickup than a regular one. Here, they’re just getting theirs running and adding parts.
Car
F-150 Raptor
The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. The podcast is saying that off-road capability is a big trend right now. It brings up the F-150 because it’s the base for off-road versions that many people want.
Term
adventure trim
An “adventure trim” is a version of a regular SUV that’s styled to look more outdoorsy. Sometimes it’s more than looks, but sometimes it’s mostly trim and a few changes like tires.
Term
37s
“37s” refers to 37-inch tires, a common shorthand in off-road circles for very large tires. Larger tires help with ground clearance and obstacle clearance, and they’re often used to signal serious off-road intent.
Car
Hyundai Boulder
Hyundai’s Boulder is a concept truck/SUV shown at the auto show. It’s meant to look and feel more like an off-road adventure vehicle.
Brand
Pagani
Pagani is a luxury supercar brand famous for very fancy, detailed interiors. The comparison is basically saying the design is aiming for that kind of premium, mechanical look.
Term
concept
A concept car is like a preview of what a company might build next. It’s not always the final product you’ll be able to buy.
Car
Mercedes S-Class
The Mercedes S-Class is one of the most prestigious luxury sedans. The host is comparing Genesis’s flagship to it to show how competitive the pricing felt.
Concept
going off road
“Going off road” means driving on dirt trails or rough ground instead of regular paved roads. They’re talking about whether more people are actually doing that now.
Term
EV
EV stands for electric vehicle. In this context, the speaker is arguing that because it’s an EV, buyers are less likely to take it off-road, implying different usage patterns than traditional off-road vehicles.
Term
manual transmission
A manual transmission is the kind where you shift gears yourself using a clutch pedal and a stick. The speaker is saying that manuals are rare now, so building a truck with one is a big part of what makes it different.
Concept
engine swap
An engine swap is replacing a vehicle’s original engine with a different one, often from another model or generation. The speaker notes that once you decide on the engine swap, you must also plan for “weak links” that can fail under the new power and torque.
Term
rear end
“Rear end” is shorthand for the rear axle assembly, including the differential and axle shafts. The speaker is emphasizing that you need to evaluate how much of the rear end is built/strengthened before adding more power.
Part
braided brake lines
Braided brake lines are upgraded brake hoses. They flex less when you press the pedal, so the brakes feel firmer and respond more consistently. That can make a big difference on performance driving.
Part
rubber brake line
Even with upgraded lines, some cars still use a rubber brake hose section. Rubber can stretch a bit when you brake, which can make the pedal feel softer. The goal is to minimize the parts that flex.
Concept
dyno
A dyno (dynamometer) is a machine that measures engine power and torque while the car is stationary. It’s useful for controlled testing because you can repeat runs and isolate variables without real-world traffic conditions.
Company
SEMA
SEMA is a big annual auto show focused on performance parts and custom builds. People go there to show new tech—like transmissions, wiring, and engine management systems.
Term
all wheel drive
All-wheel drive means the car can send power to more than just the rear wheels. That usually helps the car hook up better when you accelerate.
Concept
horsepower
Horsepower is basically how strong the engine is. More horsepower usually means the car can accelerate harder, especially when paired with the right drivetrain.
Company
GM
GM is short for General Motors, the big car company. They’re saying this new engine could be used in a bunch of different GM vehicles.
Term
forged internals
Forged internals mean key engine parts are made stronger than standard cast parts. That can help the engine survive harder driving or upgrades.
Term
compression ratio
Compression ratio is how tightly the engine squeezes the air-fuel mixture. Higher numbers can make more power, but they can also make the engine more prone to pinging if you add boost.
Term
direct injection
Direct injection means the fuel is sprayed straight into the engine’s cylinders. It can be efficient, but it can make tuning for boost more complicated.
Part
Whipple Supercharger
A Whipple supercharger is a device that forces more air into the engine. More air usually means more power, but it has to be set up correctly so the engine can handle it.
Concept
limited production
“Limited production” means only a small number of cars are made. That usually makes the car more exclusive, and it can influence whether the company later offers even wilder versions.
Part
carbon fiber body
Carbon fiber is a strong, lightweight material. The speaker is pointing out that the car had a carbon fiber body, which sounds premium, even if other parts didn’t match that level.
Term
aero
Aero (aerodynamics) refers to how air flows around the car, affecting drag and downforce. The host argues that aero differences are a major reason the GTD can be fast around a track, even if the engine family is similar.
Concept
wrapped
A “wrap” is a vinyl film put over the car’s paint. People use it to protect the paint or change the look for a while.
Term
bump stops
Bump stops are like the suspension’s “last stop” when the car goes over a big bump. If you hit them often, the ride becomes rough and jarring.
Term
E 15
E15 is regular gas mixed with a certain amount of alcohol (ethanol). Because it has more ethanol than normal gas, some cars may get slightly worse mileage.
Term
throttle
The throttle is the pedal that tells the engine how hard to work. When you press it, the engine burns more fuel faster.
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Get on the 95 Ford Lightning, haven't taken that out in a little bit and wanted to get
it cleaned up and fired up.
I got a couple of new parts from Holley.
I still need to swap onto that thing that I haven't gotten around to yet but it's a distributor
and ignition system and plugs.
There's a new engine that's going to go into it at some point but just to get it, keep
it mobile, keep it moving around and stretch its legs a little bit.
It was nice to get that.
Something about that truck, it's just like every time I take it out, there's someone
to roll up next to you and like, dude, is that a Lightning or oh man, I always wanted those
and those are such a cool truck.
So it's fun to kind of get that back out on the street for a little bit.
Oh yeah.
Alistair is out at the New York Auto Show so we'll get some information back from him
as well.
An interesting thing that came up that I'll bring this up for in regards to the New York
Auto Show is like off-road is the thing these days.
Every Raptor kind of started it like 15 years ago or sort of breathed new life into it.
Ram with TRX and every SUV that's out there has some sort of adventure trim, right?
Like a Honda or a Mazda CX-5 has a CX-50 and it doesn't even necessarily mean there's
a lot of new components for it.
It just means it's like maybe it's a little bit more of some plastic trim, a little bit
more off-road capable, change of tires and Toyota is finally getting into the game as
well with the Toyota Hammer, right?
That's going to be their TRX and Raptor competitor.
I don't know the full specs on it yet.
I don't know that we've got any of that.
They've kind of showed some concepts of it.
It's big truck, off-road capability, big tires, maybe 37s.
It was interesting to see some of the news from the Auto Show come out and we've got
a Hyundai getting into the game.
They showed this vehicle called Boulder.
Now they're going after Jeep and Bronco and it's kind of cool looking.
It's on 37s.
It's like a cross between a Bronco and a, I don't want to say it in any of us, but it's
like it's more between a bunch of things.
Yeah, you're right.
So it's got a little Land Rover Defender.
It's got some Bronco into it.
We'll see what the production version looks like.
This is a really big kind of integrated fender and step.
The interior is really kind of interesting.
It's going for, I don't want to use the term like steampunk kind of interior, but it's
kind of going for this sort of mechanical looking, but modern.
These separate gauges up on the dash, these big dials that you spend, more of like an
exposed type of linkage effect on the shifter.
Not full on like Pagani, but you know.
It's cool for the automaker that they are to come out with that thing.
Yes.
They have it as a concept at least.
I mean, it's cool.
You know, 37 inch tires, like they're getting into the space.
We'll see if they can compete.
Now, if history has shown us anything, look at what Hyundai Kia Genesis has been doing
and competing in all the spaces that they're competing in.
You know, Hyundai Palisade hybrid just took the Edmunds top rated award for a three row SUV.
The Ioniq 5 is one of the best selling EVs that is out there.
I just drove the Genesis G90 sedan to Vegas and back in, you know, for 105 grand for probably
$30,000 less than a Mercedes S class.
It was like super competitive.
So, you know, the Hyundai Santa Fe, not Santa Cruz that a little like pickup truck thing.
That one, I don't think anybody likes.
I don't think that one's really selling.
But this to me looks like looks like the Bronco concept from years ago.
I don't know, but I would imagine it's just going to be competitive with Bronco and Jeep.
Better be really competitive.
Yeah, but you're right.
So like these windows above the doors have kind of a Land Rover kind of the discovery effect to it.
But yeah, it's pretty it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool looking.
So that was that was a part of the big news coming from from Hyundai out there.
But, you know, Ford CEO Jim Farley said as well, he's like getting in, you know, staying in racing,
getting into forms of racing that they haven't really been that active in.
But off off road trucks, like they're they're all in on that, you know, they're all in on it.
But I still would love to see the percentage of the public who buy these vehicles who actually take them off.
Right, which I know in these days that's going to change, you know, as opposed to like 10 years ago.
But still, you know, how many dudes and how many people in LA are going to be driving something like this and will have never taken off.
And now they're getting horrible gas mileage in comparison.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah, I agree with that completely.
But I post COVID there's been a lot more adventures going off the grid going off road than anything.
Yeah, than anything else.
So there there is an audience for going off road that's probably bigger than there was, you know, even five or six years ago.
But a lot of it is, yeah, it's the look.
It's just mixing up.
I mean, and you got to understand the vehicle.
It's like how many people are taking, you know, a Land Rover, you know, Range Rover off road, and that's got great off road capability, right?
And honestly, it's like a round town.
I'm starting to see more and more of the Ineos Granadaire.
And I haven't seen a dirty one.
Just come take pictures of ours.
Yeah.
Extremely capable.
But the reality is that not many people are going to ever push it through the spaces by any means.
Yeah, because, you know, it looks cool.
It's got a retro look to it as well.
It's kind of expensive, you know, like it's not a $35,000 vehicle, you know, so that's the other thing.
It's like how many, how many people are going to spend 100,000 on a vehicle and take it off road?
So the guy that built it, you know, the guy that built it for sure.
That was his purpose, purpose for sure.
I mean, Porsche announced the electric Cayenne, right?
And they built in a bunch of really capable, you know, off road features to it.
I don't think there's going to be a single one that's ever going to get that dirty.
You know, you're an EV.
A person going to buy an electric Cayenne is not taking it off road.
No, I don't think not one of them.
Not one of them.
Some YouTuber will do it.
Some YouTuber will do it.
Right?
For the clicks.
But the reality is, is no, no one's going to do it.
And on that note, I'm putting a fricking DSR 1500 in my willies just to, you know, get some clicks.
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That's been a project you've been, you know, kicking around and kind of it's in line to get done.
Is there any updates on it?
What have you guys been doing on it?
Still planning?
Building?
Yeah.
No, man.
I think you're thinking about the 2500 truck.
And ironically, yesterday I was on the phone with our good buddies, Michael Kidd and what's the guy's name?
Will Beaty?
Beaty.
Will Beaty.
I love him.
You know, we, I touched on the Ram, the 99 Ram project again.
Yeah.
And it's time to do it.
We're going to drop a five speed in it.
Will's got all the stuff that is needed.
And to be perfectly honest with you, I was on the phone yesterday trying to reach out to Mario to see if I could slap one of those supercharges on top of that 392.
Yeah, okay.
That truck is going to be absolutely ridiculous.
No, I'm not doing it for the YouTube crowd.
I'm doing it for me.
So yeah, that truck's going to be freaking gnarly.
So was Will, Will Beaty is the clutch guy, by the way.
We know his name.
FTI McLeod.
Yeah.
We won't get into the relationship that he had or has still, of course, but that's a movie in and of itself.
Did he find or was able to source like a pedal kit and everything because you're going from an automatic to a five speed.
You're doing a conversion on this truck.
Yeah, evidently, he's sourced everything.
Yeah, it's something that they can provide, you know, all of the, all of the, any pertinent detail that needs to be filled in to make that swap for that TKX.
Yeah, it can be done by will evidently.
So that's what kids said will pretty much said the same thing.
I'm trying to get them out here.
They're, they're doing something and I think kids doing something down in Corpus Christi with the trades, you know, high school programs.
Yeah.
And then there's an event somewhere around San Antonio area and we're just trying to guilt will into coming in so that when he they do stop by the shop we can work on the truck.
I mean, we could have all the stuff here prior.
I could have it all prepped and it'd just be good to have those guys on camera with me so I can say thank you.
Yeah, they go months towards.
All of these, these trucks that we've been talking about all the new stuff, all the off road stuff.
I mean, trucks these days, you know, especially the, the upfitted ones, the ones with all the with all the great equipment on it.
Obviously, nothing is manual transmission anymore.
So to take the older one that you've got like it's kind of like it's still modern enough.
It's got some features, but this was the work truck.
But now that the work truck has got, you know, changed the suspension wheel and tire package engine package.
Now we're like, you know what would make it different than the other trucks is the manual.
But it'll still be the, it'll still be the work truck just in a, you know, it's a, it's what?
18 years older than the TRX, right?
And yes, we're kind of mirroring what has come standard with the TRX except for, you know, the manual transmission.
But as far as the whole package is concerned, we're just using the 99 and kind of updating around there.
Another one thing that I am going to have to do and I just realized is I'm going to need to upgrade the brakes on this thing.
Like big time.
Yeah.
So we've talked about this before.
It's like every time we start looking at a project and going, all right, this is the engine swap we're going to do.
Then you got to start thinking of all the weak links between.
That are going to break, right?
When you turn that freaking motor on, yeah.
Right.
The first thing that just came to my mind was the drive shaft.
Right.
Drive shafts.
You got to look at the rear end, how much of the rear end is built.
Yes.
When stopping, when you start looking at the brakes, what sort of breakup break are you going to do?
And then one of the things I always, I look at when I do the brakes, like for example, on the Mustang, the Fox body Mustang,
it's easy to do the brakes and have the brakes have braided brake lines, have braided lines, right?
It comes right off of the stainless line and goes to a braided line.
But on that car, as an example, there is a rubber brake line that goes down kind of like the middle where the drive shaft is.
Yeah.
That connects to the rear end, right?
So there's a hard line that comes above the rear end and then there's a rubber line to the rear end because it's a live axle, right?
And then on the rear end, there's stainless lines that go to the brakes and go to your braided line.
That one like 18 inches of rubber line that attaches to the hard brake line on the rear end like above the center section.
That's the overlooked piece, you know?
And I'm going,
There's no braided, right?
Yeah.
So it never is, but there is a braided line that's available.
So when I was doing one of my other cars, one of the other Mustangs, I was like, I did the brakes.
I had massive bear brakes front, rear 14 inch, you know, six piston, you know, the whole thing.
But I had to go separately and source that 18 inches of braided line or have something made and go because I don't want that to be.
Right.
Yeah.
Because you don't want that to be the wink.
The wink.
You're creating the weak one.
Right.
So looking at things like that.
And I did this too.
So I had a 65 Mustang coupe with a 347 stroker.
And I even had it here in Southern California years ago.
And I remember down by the beach, it was at night.
And I wasn't really getting on it hard or anything, but there was, you know, it was a stoplight.
You make a big left turn.
I did a big left turn.
I leaned on it a little bit.
Drive shaft just left it right.
Just left it on the side of the road right there on the drive shaft.
And I was like, I heard it too.
And I was like, I know exactly what that is.
I know exactly what it was.
Just tore that thing up.
And it was probably my fault.
I was probably already twisting it and breaking it and tearing it up.
And then finally it just, you know, gave up the ghost right there.
It was close from home that I could just, I just had the car towed home.
And then I just took care of it there.
But yeah, you'll, you'll find the weak links.
I, you know, when you guys, when you guys were building the twin turbo car and Mario was like,
I'm going to take it out to the drag strip for testing.
And he comes back and he's like, we found a couple of weak links.
Absolutely.
You either do it on the test track, the dyno or in real life situations.
And I'm, I'm not for the latter of those choices.
Yeah.
But you know, being around the garage and being on the property, it's a great place to test.
Right.
You know, because I don't have to tow myself back very far and I could do it with my six wheeler.
Yeah.
So that is a huge advantage.
Right.
If you can do it on the property and, you know, like you said, you, you can drag it back.
You know, with any of the UTVs, you can also, you can kind of stretch its legs.
On a safe environment.
Yeah.
If I can't stretch its legs on 200 acres, I got a big problem.
So, yeah, it's, it's the Goldberg test track is what it's going to turn into.
Yeah.
So anyway, the, the, the 99, that's going to be a cool project.
I think that truck with the, with the, with the manual transmission is going to be cool on the,
on the 95 lightning, when we put the, that was the one that I, I got a transmission.
I got a bowler transmission.
It was very expensive.
And it's, it, I don't know, got lost, got stolen.
I think when, when, when, when Adam Crowler was like moving different carriages and stuff.
We, I don't know where the transmission is.
Somehow it, it walked away.
I, I, you know, I, I, not exactly sure what happened to it.
So I've spoke to my kid several times going, you know, this could be an opportunity to do a manual swap and that thing.
It could be an opportunity to do a DCT and that thing.
And, and I, for this particular truck, I think the DCT is the way to go, except we, they just don't have, when we spoke at SEMA,
they don't have the electronics to, to equip it to a more conventional push rod engine.
Right.
Like they have, like if you're doing, if you're doing like a coyote swap, the, the Ford electronics can talk to the DCT because
they already have, they've already had that communication with the GT 500.
Probably something similar with GM as well.
They did one at SEMA with Dave Kindig, but it was a complex mo tech fuel injection system and it took a lot of program and a lot of work.
But he's full aware going, listen, a lot of hot rodders use like Holly EFI and, and their DCT should talk to like Holly EFI at some point.
If you want to swap that thing into an aftermarket project, a hot rod project.
So we'll kind of see what happens first.
Like, you know, does, does, does Tremac come up with a solution or does Tremac, you know, I, they're probably reaching out to companies like Holly and others,
maybe an Edelbrock comp cam, I don't know what you're saying.
We're way behind what they're doing.
You know that.
Yeah.
Talking to the kid yesterday and speaking to him about what he's testing right now.
I mean, they're like we talked about last week.
Yeah.
You know, they're, they're so far ahead of what we know, it's not even funny.
And it's exciting to have them as a great sponsor who likes to share the information sometimes.
Yeah, man, some cool things are coming from Tremac.
That's the Ben's show.
I, I, I agree.
Yeah.
Cause we talked about Tremac brought out a C8 Corvette to SEMA with the transaxle, but with a manual transmission.
And then, you know, when the, when the, when the Grand Sport came out.
Yeah, they're like, can't be done.
There was no manual transmission.
It was like, well, it can be done just not by you guys.
You just don't want.
We talked a little bit about that.
Yeah.
We talked about that.
No, but I talked to kid about that yesterday.
He was good at going.
Yeah.
They're way ahead of the curve.
Well, listen, I think even GM said, saying that gave a bunch of free press for, for Tremac going, well, we, we've done it.
It can be done.
And we're the ones.
As they should, as they should get.
I mean, all that R&D was for, not for no reason.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think there could be companies that are going to embrace that, like a Lingenfelter or a Hennessy or anybody wants to get their hands on, on those Corvettes and make them just not just faster, but more fun.
Yeah.
The, the Grand Sport, by the way, we talked a bit about the Grand Sport, right?
Like this is the, the, not a new Corvette.
It's a C8, but it's new in the lineup of Corvettes.
It's going to replace, well, it's going to fit in between the Corvette Stingray and the Z06.
But it's also going to replace the e-ray.
So the e-ray is the hybrid version with the electric motors all wheel drive.
Now the technology there that started in the e-ray is we're starting to see the writing on the wall with what GM's and Chevy's intention was.
They're going, we're going to do the e-ray.
And people are like, ah, that's kind of weird because we've got the rear wheel drive gas engine.
We're going to do a Z06.
And, and they said, but the e-ray is going to fit in the middle and it's a great car to drive.
Maybe isn't selling that well because people were going, ah, do I want the hybrid version?
But now when they said, well, we got ZR1 and ZR1X and ZR1X is taking that technology from the e-ray.
We're taking the big gas engine, putting electric motors on it.
Now you got the all wheel drive version.
It hauls ass around the Nurburgring, hauls ass is over to 60, gives you performance, torque vectoring, all the great stuff.
So the Grand Sport came out and they said the Grand Sport is going to be gas engine rear wheel drive with the new engine.
And then there's going to be a Grand Sport X.
And if you want that, so I think it's like 535 horsepower for one car and 700 plus horsepower for the, for the X version.
So again, as we, what we said, you get the option.
You can figure out what you want, right?
You want the straight up gas engine version or you want the e-ray version of it.
I like that.
So the Grand Sport X will replace the e-ray, but the Grand Sport itself isn't really replacing anything else in the lineup.
It's just meant to fit in between Stingray Z06 and then from there, ZR1, ZR1X.
So it's a cool piece in the lineup.
It's got aero bits and the wide body fenders and stuff from Z06 and a little bit more affordable package.
But the thing that stood out for me that I want to talk about here is the new engine.
And the reason why is because, yeah, we, we, we enjoy the aftermarket so much of what happens at, you know, builds at the SEMA show.
This new engine is a big deal for, for GM because this is going to be the new Pushrod V8 in their lineup across several vehicles,
possibly SUVs and trucks as well.
But I, I imagine this is going to be the new thing, the LS6 is going to be the new thing as far as crate engines as well.
I imagine if, if Chevrolet Performance is going to put this in their Performance Parts catalog and offer this thing up as a crate engine.
So going from 6.2 liters to 6.7 liters for the LS6, you know, increased torque, more performance, 535 horsepower.
It's got forged internals already from the factory.
It's got a bigger, I think it's like 90 or 95, 95 millimeter throttle body.
Now the interesting thing here is the compression.
To get this power, they're doing 13 to 1 compression ratio.
Now that does not bode well for supercharging, turbocharging, any sort of boosted application.
You're really tapping out.
Now through, through sophisticated electronics and, and pulling back timing and things like that,
we've made supercharger packages run really well on 11 to 1 compression engines.
I'm not saying it can't be done on a 13 to 1 compression engine.
I just don't know yet if they've even tried it, but there's going to be plenty of aftermarket companies that are going to go in and give this thing a try.
Now what's also kind of interesting is we had port injection for a while and then we had direct injection.
And then on this new engine, it's going to have both the port injection and direct injection.
So if I understand that the specs right, so there's two fuel injectors for each cylinder.
Now I spoke to Lingenfelter about this kind of stuff a while ago when the C8 was even coming out and they were talking about how are they going to supercharge these things.
And on the direct injection engines, they had to add a second set of conventional like port fuel injection.
This already has it.
So if you were to supercharge this and you did some sort of fuel upgrade or fuel pump upgrade or increased pressure,
you'd probably just do it with the port injectors and not even mess with the direct injection ones because that's a little bit more complicated.
So in one hand, 13 to 1 compression is like not boost friendly, but on the other hand, you're like, it's got the rest of the components there that would make it boost friendly, or at least as far as adapting a kit for it.
It's only a matter of time.
Right?
If you can get the software to work as well and then for sure, I think it'd be kind of interesting.
But anyway, I like the LS6 as a potential crate engine.
By the way, even if you don't want to boost it, a 535 horsepower crate engine naturally aspirated with that kind of torque as well.
I forgot what it was.
It was something like 520, 520 pound-feet of torque.
And that's kind of the big difference between the current engine.
The LT2 engine is 495 horsepower with like 470 pound-feet of torque.
So the new one would be 535 with 520 pound-feet of torque.
So yeah, it's a cool piece for sure.
I would imagine that shows up.
You know, if Chevrolet Performance also does one of their like connecting cruise packages, that's also pretty smart because it's basically an engine and transmission package with the electronics already calibrated together with a warranty.
And they've done emissions legals packages as well.
So if you follow all the rules and use the carbon filter and all this stuff, you could put it all in turn good to go, right?
Which is a cool package for sure to get it all kind of dialed into one.
The new connecting cruise packages, by the way, because I haven't been following it too much in recent years.
There's a manual transmission option and a automatic transmission option.
So you can go with basically like one part number in the Chevy Performance catalog and go,
I want the connecting cruise, manual transmission, give me the Tremac, give me everything.
They're like, good, here you go. It's in a box. It's on the way.
Yeah, it's pretty cool, right?
Hell yeah. Choices, man.
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The battle at the Nürburgring is going on and it's always fun.
It's always fun to see that, right?
So Ford went out there with the GTD.
They set a great time.
Chevy went out there with ZR1 and ZR1X, beat that time.
And now, somewhat famously, Jim Frally was like, congratulations, game on.
So I love that.
Now, there's not been an official time yet, but Ford's been out there testing.
There's been some spy shots of a GTD being out there with some modifications to it.
But this has been interesting.
And now, there's a GTD that's out there with added arrow.
You can see in this picture that we're looking at on YouTube from the drive.
It's got kind of an arrow wheel in the back, a little Porsche 935 going on back there.
It's got a little bit more on the front, different canards and stuff in the front.
I think it's the same rear tail version.
Got a few things taped up.
Now, the way I understand it, looking at spy photos from before, this has the Whipple Supercharger upgrade, right?
I'm presumably at least a three-liter Whipple on it, so making probably closer to 1,000 horsepower.
So these guys went out there and somebody was timing it and said it got a 641.
Now, a 641 is something like, I don't know, 10 or 12 seconds faster than what they did before, faster than ZR1, faster than ZR1X.
I think faster than anything out there other than Mercedes AMG1, which is basically a Formula One car with bodywork on it.
So I like that they're going after it. I think this is impressive.
It's pretty cool. There's some video up a few places where you can see it happening and they're going after it.
It doesn't mean GM wouldn't respond in some way, but the question I have is if you bought a GTD, is there going to be some sort of
up-fit package that they'll sell you and go listen if you want a GTD?
Yeah, because if they do, it'll push the $500,000 barrier.
Right. Some people may opt and go, I don't need it. I don't want it. It's a collector car.
Some people may go, oh, I want the extra power. What is going to cost me? What does that package cost?
Does it go back to the dealer? Like, how does it work?
But if they sell a GTD with that package on it, and car companies do this, right?
They go, hey, we got a 911, and then we've got a GT3. We've got a GT whatever.
There's different versions of it.
But the GTD was sold as a limited production, high performance car.
And there was never any hint of a more extreme variant available at some point.
So I would think if...
You knew that was only a matter of time.
Yeah, but it's a little unfair to go, hey, we were selling this as the high performance collectible version.
If you want to not really drive it, or even drive it, it's the collectible version.
And we're going to limit the numbers and whatever, right?
But because Ford kind of screwed up on this years ago, and like, I want to say 99 when the Mustang Cobra,
the new version of the Cobra came out, and it was supposed to be like 320 horsepower,
and it didn't make those power numbers.
And they had to go back and like retrofit stuff on it going, yeah, we screwed up.
But, you know, the 2000 and the 2001, I think they even skipped 2000 and 2001,
we're going to fix the glitch basically, and it's going to have those power numbers.
We don't want that story, basically, that narrative to happen on GTD.
So if they do a high performance version of the GTD and sell that to customers,
then people should be able to retrofit and go back and go,
listen, the new GTD is going to be $75,000 more money.
If you guys want to take your GTD to a dealer, we'll sell you the package
and you'll get the the outfit on it, right?
Yeah, I mean, again, you're talking to a different select group of people
that can't really be predicted as to what their plans are going to be with that set vehicle.
So, I mean, you never know, man.
But it's cool that it's an option for damp shift.
But who's going to be coming?
Again, I go back to the fate and, you know, who's going to pay $100,000 for a VW,
even if it's got a 12 cylinder, right?
We've had this conversation before, but I mean, yeah, if money wasn't an issue,
I'd have one of those in my garage right now.
Yeah.
But again, you talk about the upfitting and it's not fair to the customer.
Well, all of these manufacturers are greedy.
I mean, I paid 20 grand extra for a one-to-one Demon 170
and I've got the only challenger ever with green machine color on it.
But ironically, this year, green machine is now an optional color for everything else.
Yeah.
Right?
So, I mean, that's like might as well stab me in the back.
Yeah.
Now, it won't come in your year of vehicle, but yes, it's...
Yeah.
I mean, I've got the only challenger ever produced with that color.
Granted, yes, that does make it elite.
But to have that be a normal color for the entire fleet offered the next year.
I mean, basically Dodge is, you know, it's like they're giving me the finger.
And so, but it's all about the bottom line at the end of the day.
I mean, the part we understand that the other part of me is really pissed off about it.
But again, I mean...
They painted your car and everyone stood around going, oh, man, this looks good.
We need to think about this.
Yeah.
You should call Trostle and be like, what are you doing, buddy?
This is...
I feel like this is in his department.
Yeah.
I don't think he has a control of that paint, but I know his response is going to be...
Yeah.
It looks good.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's like it looks great.
We should always done this.
Good idea, Bill.
Good job.
You're welcome.
You made my 20 grand back.
Yeah.
Right.
The other car that came to mind where this was kind of the issue was the Shelby Series
1.
Do you remember that one?
Yep.
And a cool looking car, a little funky, not necessarily the best build quality.
I still think it looks good.
But that car came out and it kind of underperformed.
It had like this, I don't know, Buick engine.
Like a chip box.
I mean, it's cool.
The design is really cool, I believe.
And it's carbon fiber body and it just had like a lot of GM parts, bin, plastic-y things
going on.
It did have an 8-cylinder, but it didn't have like a very high power 8-cylinder.
And so the Shelby Series 1, I think they offered a package afterward, which was, it wasn't specifically
just a supercharger package.
It was like an upgrade and it had like bigger brakes, but with a supercharger.
It was like a Vortex supercharger and stuff.
It had up the power and it wasn't just straight like, hey, you can take it in, get the supercharger
package.
You bought the whole package.
So it's the supercharger.
I think some sort of intercooler, a bigger brake package.
I know Shelby Series 1 fans or collectors would know specifically what it had.
I didn't do a lot of research in them.
I'm just going based off memory here.
But there was a package for that thing going, yeah, this thing isn't quick enough.
So we're going to have this retro fit package.
We screwed up.
So here's a package to make it how we originally intended it to be.
And oh, it's going to cost you X amount of money.
Right.
Bring your vehicle up to where it should have been coming right off the assembly.
That's exactly right.
Going, thank you for your money.
Bring us another $20,000.
Give us some more.
We'll fix the glitch for another, I don't know, 17,000 or 22,000 or whatever it was.
So yeah, so it's been, it's been happening before.
And it's blatantly done.
That's what's so disturbing as a car guy.
You know, I mean, you can forecast the future as to what these manufacturers are going to be doing next,
because you've been in that situation many a time before and you've seen what others have done.
And you would think that number one, we'd learn or number two, that they would at least change their mode of operandi a little bit, man,
and make it a little less obvious as to what they're doing.
But I mean, it is what it is.
With the GTD, this was Ford's mistake from the get-go.
They had a GT500 and they must have known that they were going to be doing a replacement for the GT500 at some point.
Now, we have the Dark Horse SC, which basically has that engine in it and the GTTC in it.
So for them going, I get it, like, multi-matic that was building the cars like it's all about the suspension.
We've got cantilever suspension and adjustable.
This thing is going to haul butt around the track.
It's all about the suspension, the wide body, the aero.
That's going to make all the difference in the world.
And they're right.
But when they were putting it together, people are going to look at the spec sheet and go,
you have, I don't know, 800, 815 horsepower GT500 and a GTD is the same engine,
but all the differences of the aero, they should have just said,
why don't we just try to do the Whipple version and make it 1,000 horsepower from the get-go?
That way, it's never going to compete with GT500 or Dark Horse SC.
And then we have that one.
It's a 900 horsepower.
Yeah.
You have Dark Horse at 500 horsepower.
You have SC at presumably 800 horsepower.
And then you would have had GTD, obviously a big price drum,
but it would have been 950, 980 or 1,000 horsepower or 1,001 horsepower
because everybody wants that number, right?
So you do a 1,000 horsepower version from the get-go with the Whipple Supercharger on it.
Then immediately it's worth that 325 price tag because it's completely different in your offering
something that can't be picked up in another package.
Right.
And look, if you go to the Ford Performance Catalog and you order their Supercharger package,
it's like $10,000 and then you pay somebody a couple grand to put it on,
two grand to put it on.
When you're buying a $325,000 car or some options in the carbon package,
you're paying $400,000 for it.
If it was an extra $15,000, I don't think people are going to go,
oh, it's $415,000.
I'm already $400,000 into it.
But for the extra money, you get the 1,000 horsepower.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to stop there.
I mean, right before that.
I don't think they're going to add, add, check a box, check a box and go,
oh, no, that pushes me over the 400 limit.
Yes.
No.
Even when the news came out and said the base price is $325,000,
if they said $350,000, it's going to be the same comments.
People are going $350,000 for a Mustang.
That's crazy.
But people are going to be like, I know, but then you see the car,
you get the specs on it, you see the number of ring times,
you see the exclusivity.
If it originally came out with a thousand words.
It's going to be a thousand horsepower field differently between the 325
and the 350.
But this is coming from a guy that couldn't afford it.
It doesn't have one.
So anybody that bought it, if anybody that bought a GTD,
if you said, hey, you bought it for 325 as is,
but if it was really going to be 1,000 horsepower at 350,
would you have changed your mind?
I'm going to guess no, but I guess we'll see how it goes.
Now the question is going to be if Ford comes out with an upfit package,
what is that cost and are you guys going to do it?
You know, you know,
what we need to do is get, we need to get Kenny on the show.
Yeah.
Kenny, we need to get him on the show because he's a guy who,
or I don't know if he's gotten delivering me yet.
Boom.
Bird ran right into the window.
You hear that?
I didn't hear it.
But he's a case study, you know, in real time.
I don't know if he got it delivered,
but the price went from 325 to 375 before he even knew what was going on.
Yeah.
So I'm really curious to talk to him because of his background as a car guy
and he's experiencing all these things we're talking about,
but in real time as the dude who laid down 350 for the car.
So I'd love to get his feedback.
Yeah.
Monterey last year, like a couple of days before Monterey,
Beau Bachman out here from Galpin Ford,
he got his delivered and his was paint the sample and his like pink color.
It's cool color.
He calls it Beau Berry.
He had a four GT done that way and then he got this one to match.
And right when he got it,
he had it wrapped that he drove it to Monterey car week.
He just drove it right up there, which is pretty cool.
It stretches the legs a little bit.
Get the, get the break in miles on it.
But yeah.
You got a car like that and you paid that money for what that car is.
I would be remiss to say that 99% of the people that get that car drive the
shit out.
Yeah.
I would think, you know, I mean,
I don't know.
I would.
Yes.
Yeah.
I tell you, I drove the car and got to spend a day with it and I loved it.
It was, it's, how can you not?
But it's, it's, I was definitely impressed.
Like it's really about the suspension in it.
And, and at one point when I was just driving it, it's like,
I just put it in its normal mode and, you know, the ride height street level,
turn the radio on and you can just drive it like any other Mustang.
And then it, when you want it to be, it's a beast.
It's just a beast.
Like to be able to dial that thing in and have such good balance.
It doesn't really beat you up.
Like you could drive that thing and it's like my truck right now beats me up
more because it's lowered and sits on the bump stops.
And, you know, how it is when you do those kind of things.
It beats me up all the time in that thing.
And the GT was way better.
But the amount of work and sophistication and adjustability they put in the
suspension is really where it shines.
So anyway.
Well, if it's a suspension built car and, and what they did with the arrow on
the Ford GT and it being an aero car and me driving that and experiencing it,
it's underpowered comparatively to others.
Yeah.
But the technology with the arrow package makes it unbelievable.
Yeah.
And so I very much look forward to driving that GTD to see a vehicle that they've
put that type of technology in and see how it is.
Yeah.
If you could fit in a Mustang, you can fit in a GTD.
That's the other thing.
It's not it's not the super cramped.
Like it's it's Mustang interior Mustang size.
So if you can get in my first new car, my first new car when I was when I was at
the University of Georgia was a 85 GT.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, I was 275 back then.
So yeah, I fit in it.
Well, yeah, I see all the pictures.
You used to have hair.
Yeah, then there's that.
The last thing I want to touch on is this news that's that's going around now is is
with this war going on and gas prices going crazy.
And the EPA, I guess, is asking.
I guess they're the ones asking or approving or the, you know, of of of E 15.
Now, it's definitely parts of the country.
We have that 88 octane that E 15, but a lot of places have the E 10.
It's the additional ethanol in your fuel.
Now, adding ethanol to the fuel also makes it a little less efficient.
So worse gas mileage.
We have E 85, right, which is far less.
It's like 60 or 40% less efficient than like 93 octane.
But you get the benefit of the of the higher octane.
So if you want to tune it for that and the issue has always been ethanol eats like your,
you know, rubber bushings and O rings and fuel lines and things like that.
You know, this has come up a million times, but like Leno very famously hates ethanol
because he's got all of his old cars and every time he puts modern day gas and enemies,
old cars, he has to replace the fuel lines every like once a year.
So it's trying to figure all that out with these portable fuel tanks that I just put in the garage.
Yeah.
118 gallon tanks.
And, you know, you have to worry about either stable or exactly what type of fuel is in there
because it's going to eat those tanks alive.
Right.
So they're saying, oh, we're going to extend like E 15 is seasonal and available.
And some areas not really out here as a California thing, but other areas.
They're saying, well, we're going to extend that out and make that more available.
But I don't think that's really going to solve the problem again.
Most cars, you know, the rule is kind of like anything before 2001 shouldn't even be using it.
And you could even argue some newer cars probably shouldn't be using it as well because of that.
That degradation, that corrosion, that eating away at fuel lines and stuff is.
Unless you own stock and stable.
Yeah.
It's true.
Right.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
So I don't know.
Is that going to provide the solution is going to make for cheaper gas at the pump?
Maybe it's going to make for a little bit cheaper gas at the pump, but it's less efficient fuel anyway.
Right.
So you're not going to get the same gas.
You're going to have to.
Have my vehicles or have my vehicles or 85.
When I go to the gas station here in Texas, it's, I mean, the last time I checked, and this is before the war started, it was like, it was almost $2.
It was, it was just under $2 a gallon.
When I can fill up a child, a new challenger and have it be like 26 bucks or whatever it is, or, you know, something ridiculous, you can do nothing but laugh and giggle.
Now granted, when I step on the throttle in that car, I can watch the, the gauge move a little bit.
Right.
Um, it's, it's burns quicker.
There's no question about it.
But yeah.
The initial enjoyment you get kind of wipes that all the way.
I mean, it does.
Number one, number two, let's be honest, this, this, this war is not going to go on forever.
And if people, people need to shut the hell up about this gas thing, it's going to fix itself sooner than later.
But I think it's a, it's a, it's a nice trade off to protect our fricking country to be able to have to deal with the price of gas for a short period of time.
So I mean, that's my two cents.
Yeah.
Um, and yeah, and to your point, like on, on your modern cars, uh, that you've modified, especially the ones that like Mario got a hold of and stuff, and he's building for E 85.
He can change out, he can change out all of the fuel system components for E 85 capable, you know, components, you know, so all the fuel filters and pumps and everything lines, everything is, is ready to go for E 85.
So yeah.
Um, okay.
Um, yeah, I think we're going to wrap it up for today.
I know you've got to jump and get back to work out there.
But I got, I got to prep the garage for a big cookout.
We're going to do a cookout for the, the, the first responders for the flood last year.
Okay.
And it is going to be a cookout unrivaled by any other cookout you've ever seen.
It's going to be awesome.
Put it that way.
Yeah.
When, when is that going to be that that's coming up this week?
No, no, no, it's, it's in a couple months.
Okay.
But it's, it's something where I'm having to redo part of the garage to prep for it.
It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a renovation that we were going to do later.
But now with this coming up, Goldberg's garage is going to turn out to be a venue for events
like this in the future for the military, for the first responders and um,
Patriot tactical sponsor and the whole thing.
And we're, we're building out all the cookout areas.
Yeah.
So it, it's going to be different.
It's actually, it's such a great place for that because I mean the big garage and even
the car wash port, you know, it's like you can catch some shade and you can do serving
stations and stuff like that.
And then kind of, you know, a little bit away from the garage, you can put, you know, the
big cooking stations, the barbecues, bring a trailer, like a whole barbecue mobile ring.
They're bringing a pit.
They're bringing a pit.
It's a trailer, trailer pit.
Like it's one of those big gigantic double smoker things.
Yeah.
So we're bringing a, they're bringing a pig out.
Hopefully I could maybe shoot one before that.
Yeah.
It's, it's at the end of the day, man, you, you try to help as many people as possible.
Yeah.
What we want to do with this flood.
We invited the guy who, when one of the swimmers saved 160 people in that flood.
Wow.
And you can say thank you, but you can never say thank you enough.
So I'm just putting together the right people to be able to say thank you.
And I'm in a really big way.
You hear more about it here soon.
But it's something that I'm having to redo the floor for the, for the balcony at the
garage because it's a suspended floor with, with, with tiling.
And I've already stepped on one and broken it.
So I can only imagine when we get 25 people standing up there.
Yeah.
So we're building this whole thing out.
So today is the beginning of the end of the Goldberg's garage as you know it.
And I'm going to start destroying some stuff.
Get ready for some.
The event sounds cool.
Preston is going to be so excited.
She loves attention.
Yeah.
I've already tried to figure that one out and I'm just going to let it happen.
Yeah. Just let her go around.
I'm going to get probably 10 to 15, you know, park benches out here.
And so I can only imagine the scene.
She's probably going to go from one to the other.
Yeah.
That's just, it is.
The first responders, they've dealt with worse.
Every event that I've ever done, every event that I've ever gone to the two things that
always come up is you need enough places to sit or high tops, like to sit and put your,
put your drink and eat your barbecue and trash cans.
You got to have enough trash cans.
I got the trash can thing covered.
Because it's so inexpensive, like for trash cans and just go to Home Depot and buy a bunch
of trash cans and just make them available at all these locations.
Let me give you a little teaser about what's about to happen.
Okay.
Yes.
We're looking at the iPad here.
You got to hold it up a little bit more.
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You build it a bar and everything.
That's good.
That's cool.
That's what upstairs is going to look like.
And then we're doing the grills right on the outside of those windows and it's a whole
transformation.
It's going to be built for a purpose.
Cool.
And it's going to be really cool, man.
I will be able to divulge a little bit more information about it soon, but yeah, there's
also another car show coming basically about to save content.
Yeah.
Didn't hear about that.
All right, buddy, I'll let you get to it.
And yeah, thanks guys.
Appreciate you.
And we'll see you next week.
Until then, keep the air and the spare and the bag and the wheel.
About this episode
The crew runs through big auto-show and performance rumors: Hyundai’s Boulder concept leans into the off-road trend with 37-inch tires and a mechanical-looking interior, while Ford’s Jim Farley keeps pushing racing and off-road credibility. The conversation then shifts to GM’s new LS6 pushrod V8—6.7 liters, 13:1 compression, 535 hp/520 lb-ft, and the intriguing question of whether it’s crate-engine and boost-friendly. They also debate Ford GTD Nürburgring record chatter, possible Whipple upgrades, and whether Ford will sell an upfit package. Finally, they talk project-truck manual swaps, brake weak links, ethanol fuel policy, and a charity cookout at Goldberg’s garage.
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