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Sonoma Raceway
A famous, twisty race track in California's wine country. Unlike oval tracks, this one has lots of hills and sharp turns that require drivers to turn both left and right.
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Shane van Gisbergen
A famous race car driver from New Zealand who shocked the NASCAR world by winning his very first race in the series. He is exceptionally good at driving on tracks with left and right turns, rather than the usual oval tracks.
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Trackhouse Racing
A popular and modern NASCAR race team co-owned by the music artist Pitbull. They are famous for trying new things and bringing in famous drivers from other types of racing around the world.
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Chicagoland Speedway
A 1.5-mile oval race track near Chicago that hosted NASCAR races for nearly two decades before taking a long break from the schedule.
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NASCAR Next Gen
This is the current design of race car used in NASCAR's top series. It was introduced to make the race cars look and handle more like modern sports cars you can buy at a dealership.
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suspension limiters
Small, hard blocks in the car's suspension that stop the springs from squeezing down too far. Because modern race cars are set up very low to the ground, they hit these hard stoppers constantly, making the ride extremely bumpy for the driver.
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cool suit
A special undershirt with tiny tubes running through it that pumps cold water around the driver's body. It keeps drivers from overheating inside race cars, which can get hotter than a sauna during summer races.
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To this day, I still get booed, like you wouldn't believe, for the things I did when I was 19 years old.
This kid comes in and wrecks way more people than I ever did, and people love him.
So Joey, who are you picking?
This week?
Yeah.
I mean, I like the 22.
You know, the driver's a good guy, you know, I think.
He is a good guy.
You know, he's really hungry right now.
You need this.
You really need this.
Welcome to Kevin Harvick's Happy Hour, presented by NASCAR on FOX.
I'm Caitlin Vinci, alongside Mamba Smith and three-time Cup Series champion.
Fillin' in for Kevin today.
Joey Logano, it's good to have you here.
What's happening?
Hey, thanks for coming.
We like the shirt.
We got to acknowledge that right off the bat.
I haven't said a lot of real smart things sometimes and felt like today would be a great opportunity.
If I'm filling in for Kevin Harvick to bring back the old school shirt, it was still sitting in my drawer.
I do find it every now and again.
I don't wear it that often, but I was like, I got to keep it.
Yes.
And today is the perfect opportunity to wear it.
It really is.
And I can't wait to see Kevin's reaction to this.
I mean, did he give you, I mean, I hope you're getting some royalties off of that.
You know what I mean?
Like, no, no.
But I think he made a lot of money for his charity, which is cool.
Yeah, it's a funny story.
So this is back years ago after all this happened and Kevin and I ran into each other in a clash in Daytona.
Shocker.
And after the race, we were mad at each other and we're all yipping, you know, after the race.
And I get back to the bus.
Then I'm pissed, right?
Yeah.
And there's my wife wearing the shirt.
Oh my gosh.
That's hilarious.
I'm like, too soon.
Not funny.
Not funny, you know, way too soon.
I'm still pissed off.
Yeah.
So a lot of good memories with Kevin, a lot of bad memories, but a lot of good things now.
Now that we can laugh about it and joke about it.
So it's funny how things come full circle.
It is funny how things come full circle.
Well, we appreciate you taking time to be here.
I know it was a busy weekend for everybody.
We're going to recap everything that happened, obviously in Sonoma.
Look ahead to Chicagoland where we haven't been for some time.
You have your sips.
Yeah, we always got some sips.
Yeah, let's talk about this West Coast little mini swing though for a minute.
The West Coast double, if you will.
How did it go for you?
Just your thoughts on San Diego and then obviously Sonoma for you.
I mean, I thought for the sport, it was a win, right?
San Diego was awesome to see all the military people there, all the fans there.
Like the access was really cool.
The vibe was awesome.
For us, it wasn't that great, but for the sport, it was great.
So, you know, just just didn't have much speed there and went to Sonoma and thought,
you know what, well, that should be a good track as a place.
I feel like I know how to get around and had, you know,
maybe eight to 10 laps worth of decent speed in the car.
And then it just tires would shut off and to the back she went.
So not the the West Coast swing road courses that we were hoping for.
But you got to keep moving on, right?
Got to learn from it and and then just got to keep attacking right now.
We're in a bad spot right now.
I remember way behind the eight ball.
We guys make up a lot of points just to make the chase,
which is a crazy thing to even think that we're in that spot.
But we are and that's factual.
So we just need to keep working at it and keep grinding.
Only a few races left.
Yeah, hopefully things can move in a better direction in Chicago.
You just got back like an hour ago from Sonoma on a red eye.
Both of them props to these two men for being here.
So early after a long night.
How was your weekend on Sonoma?
Yeah, I mean, some of us have to work on like other people who take vacations
and whatever, no big deal.
But no, it was great.
You got it normally, so that guy you were looking at me and I'm here.
No, it was it was good.
Sonoma Sonoma is really cool.
I mean, like so my weekend was a little bit extra because I flew to Boston.
One of my oldest friends, Zach got married in Boston
and then I flew on Saturday morning to Sonoma.
So I've. Oh, jeez.
Yeah, so I'm a little all over the place, but Sonoma is Sonoma was sick.
I always appreciate the passion of those fans.
And it was interesting because they don't usually get back to back weeks, right?
Like we're asking the same part of the fan base to kind of do a lot.
And they still showed up in Sonoma and it was just a party like it always is.
And everyone had a lot of wine and for the broadcast,
I thought the guys and the girls, everyone did a good job.
I think where we're at with that part is is moving along in a good direction.
And so it was fun. It was cool to see Marty Smith.
Money's around. You know, that's cool.
That's fine. I do think it was neat to see a lot of the same fans from track to track.
Yeah, the road trip.
We did the road trip from San Diego up to to Sonoma and it was a blast.
Like we stopped in Santa Barbara.
We hung out there.
We went to the zoo.
We went to see. We did all the kids stuff, had fun.
And then the drive's beautiful.
Yeah, we went a little bit on the Pacific Coast Highway,
but then we just hit one on one and went up there and it was awesome.
Yeah. I mean, it's beautiful. There's a ton of farmland.
I didn't know California had all that stuff. I just all I've seen is the cities.
You go airport.
I actually could live around here.
That's a nice experience for your family.
I want to have a little.
He says that until he sees the taxes.
But I don't like that part of the weather.
The weather has been beautiful out there.
Yes, the definite benefit for being in that part of the country.
So once again, we saw SVG's continue dominance.
He had the double win, obviously in the O'Reilly's and Cup Series
winning in spectacular fashion, eight wins and 68 starts for SVG.
What do you take note from him and see from him when you're competing against him
and also how he's changed the road course racing game?
I mean, he's just better.
I mean, there's just no way around it, right?
He took a car that I don't know if it was the winning car.
I think that was like the example of strapping the team on your back
and carrying them, right?
Like no disrespect at all.
Like he's had cars that are obviously great and he wins by 15 seconds, right?
Like that's almost what we expect when he's got a car that's good.
You're right. But when he barely wins the race, it's like, man,
I think must have been a struggle for that's the expectation
of how good he is on road courses.
He's just he's light years ahead of everyone.
He's able to pace the field and then he just annihilates everybody
when it's game time.
And he didn't quite annihilate everyone yesterday,
which makes me look back and say, OK, something.
Everyone's catching him from a car perspective.
Maybe some of the drivers are also getting better.
I mean, he's he's pushed us all to raise our game for sure.
But I still expect him to just drive away.
You know, as we try to inch up on him,
but it's incredible to see how specialized he is in something,
how he got that good at this discipline
to come in and win that many races, right?
In a short amount of time, all on road courses, right?
Like that's pretty incredible to see that.
Yeah, his race craft is pretty amazing.
To Joey's point, he did have some complaints about the car
throughout the course of the race and even saying afterwards
they did an amazing job turning the car into a winner.
Yeah, I think he had the same thing.
We saw the chink in the armor, I think, in San Diego.
It was like, maybe, maybe
if they have a little bit more struggle,
someone might be able to just get to the bumper.
If you can get to the bumper,
then you never know what can happen at that point, you know?
And I think I think what Joey said is completely correct.
I think that he's pushed the rest of the field to be better.
But also because he's been so much better,
it's also pushed the crews to be better
and build better road course cars for the drivers
to then drive them at a higher level.
So he's he's kind of pushed everybody in a direction.
And now the gap maybe has gotten a little closer
because, you know, the Chevrolet's have struggled a little bit
throughout this year.
So he had to, I think he had to dip more into his superpowers
the last two weeks.
Yeah, and you got to strap up the cape and have that thing flying.
But then you saw this burnout was insane.
I know we'll talk about that later on.
But Chase Briscoe, I thought was interesting.
He was very disappointed.
He felt like he let one slip.
And I'm like, bro, no one's been that close to him yet.
Like you I don't know if you let it slip really.
I think like you put in the best effort you could.
You were close enough to be there.
You know what I mean?
That's the racer in them, like when you're that close
and you get I mean, he almost got to his bottom.
He tried to get there and I don't think it was enough anyways.
But he he was close and you're that close as a driver.
You're like, oh, man, you probably he's probably going back to the three
or four laps before that and thinking, all right, if I just hit that lap
a little better at this one, I would have got there.
Yeah, instead of getting there in turn 11, maybe I would have got there
in seven or the lap before and had a real chance to duke it out.
Right. But he's got there too late.
Right. He needed another lap and you're going to I mean, every driver does this
after a race, no matter where you finish.
But when you're that close, you're definitely going back and looking at
every little nitty gritty detail and saying, if I just did that a little bit
better, I would have been there and had a chance.
And that's frustrating and hard to go to bed at night.
Yeah. Chase Briscoe, the runner up.
That's his first runner up performance again since all the way back to Atlanta
at the beginning of the season.
So he was probably disappointed.
So too had to have been Denny Hamlin because we've been watching that
points battle between him and Tyler Reddick gets involved in something
not of his own doing.
How frustrated do you think he probably is?
I mean, he's a point leader.
Listen, you want to switch?
We get it.
I mean, I'm OK with it.
I'll take I'll take his bad day any day.
Oh, God, you can switch seasons with me.
I wouldn't be that frustrated.
It's funny how your perspective changes pretty quickly.
It's yeah, I mean, it's amazing to think he's caught up.
Yeah. Right.
I mean, it was easy for all of us to think Reddick's that far ahead of the field.
He's got the regular season championship wrapped up, right?
Five weeks ago, six weeks ago, I thought that, you know, and now
Denny is just eight away at it.
And it's not like Tyler's been running bad.
Sure, he's had a couple of issues here and there, but he's still in the hunt.
Like he's still fast.
He's still in contention and Denny's been doing that much more.
And, you know, this just happened to be a race where they both had issues, right?
One with power steering issues, another one that got dumped, you know,
and and, you know, still there's a you made up some points again.
So made up seven, right?
Because he's only eight back.
So now he's one or no.
He might be thinking what could have been.
Sure. He thinks maybe I could be 25, 30 points ahead instead of seven or eight
where he is right now. I think for him, it's like he hasn't.
He hasn't been good on the road courses in like years, a decade plus.
And now all of a sudden a light switch has gone off for them.
I was talking to Chris Lambert a little bit and and there's the points
right there in the corner.
I was talking to Chris Lambert a little bit and I was like,
what was last week in anomaly?
Are we going to see this again?
He's like, no, no, no, they found something in Sim.
Like he's rewired how he approaches road course racing.
And so I think he felt like they really had pace and he should have had a top 10.
So now he's mad like he would be anywhere else.
But even in that in that wreck, too, I know a lot of people got on Carson about it.
And like it's kind of close.
Like I think that they probably make contact regardless
because Carson was kind of like charging into that corner pretty hard.
But Brad was also pushing Carson.
And I think it was Bowman is also pushing Brad like there was a chain reaction
and just the car in front kind of got was Danny and he just kind of got run over.
Speaking of Carson, I would love to get your thoughts on him
because the debate kind of got brought up again this weekend
after Kyle Larson did an interview with Bussam and the boys
and mentioned that he respects his talent and the speed that he has.
But they'd be acts like an eight year old a lot.
Basically citing his immaturity to which Carson responded by qualifying on the front row
and making a comment about it on X, you know, that he let an eight year old
qualify on the front row. What do you think of Carson?
I mean, I I'd agree he's got a ridiculous amount of talent, right?
Like raw talent. He's just wicked fast, right?
And that's something that is impressive, right?
He's shown that from the beginning of his career that he is a bit of a wild card
out there, right? I mean, I think he's proven that.
And then that's not a secret to anyone like there's he's going to sling it in there.
And whatever happens happens, it's interesting to have that attitude
so much or just whatever, right?
Like, well, whatever is going to bite you eventually, right?
And Carson, I've had issues and we've been able to work them out.
We've talked about it and we've had a contact back and forth on the racetrack, right?
And it's it's nobody wants to be in that situation, right?
And then there's some people that will probably take it and not do anything about it.
And then there's certain drivers that are going to do something about it.
And you're going to figure out which ones those are pretty quickly, right?
I I dealt with it.
I'm sitting in the guy's seat that I had to deal with, right?
Like I did it. I lived and I can relate a little bit to what Carson is going through right now.
But there's also a moment where you got to look at big picture and say, OK,
what do I want to accomplish in this sport?
What am I am I trying to win a one off race here and there?
Or am I trying to win championships?
And that game has to be played all the way through the whole season.
I've made the mistakes. I know this.
I've cost myself, I think, at least a championship and not playing it out correctly.
And so he'll learn that, right?
And he already has some, but not enough because it hasn't changed him enough.
But his ability to go fast at any racetrack at this point is going to
like he will be around forever at this point.
Yeah, yeah, you can't deny that the talent that he has
and and his ability to just not care, right?
Like he don't care. Zero literally like whatever.
He says things. He does things.
He's just like, what are you going to do about it?
And then people do things about it.
Like it's not like he doesn't get dumped back.
It happens. And he's like, yeah, whatever.
Well, Corey, Corey, Corey.
He was so Carson is having like, again, kind of like similar to Danny Carson's
like, oh, it's real course time of the year.
Like I'm just going to ride around.
Then he goes to the San Diego, has a good run going, is running second.
Right. At the final stage, told you the latter part of the race.
Corey gets one shot at him.
Doesn't like, I don't know if Corey was like seeing
right. I don't think he was like going at it.
Like I'm going to dump him, but definitely wanted to move him immediately
and shipped him because Corey also didn't care because it was Carson.
Like everyone's been talking about, oh, eventually someone's going to get him.
Yeah. I'm surprised, though, Joey, that it wasn't any of the vets.
And it was the guy that he had problems with in the truck series.
You know what I mean? But then, but then Carson's like,
I had that coming for like four years.
It's like, why isn't it one of the vets?
Why does the vets not do it?
Probably saving it. OK.
But I guess that's that's also have big picture in mind, too.
They're saying they're going to do it when it's worth it.
And they're going to do it when it's a real benefit to them.
Right. And they don't want to hurt themselves when you do it.
Right. It's not easy to just take someone out.
Let's be honest. Like, I mean, it's it's you're going to hurt your car.
Some amount, possibly.
So in and I don't think the vets have in their their mind that like
my my motive today is to wreck somebody, right?
Or to equal the playing field, right?
Like, or to get back.
I don't think that's the the mindset of the people
that are out there racing for championships or for wins.
It's how do I maximize my day?
How do I win this race?
Drivers are elephants, though.
They remember everything, right?
Like, so it's still in the back of their mind.
But they'll save it for years, right?
Like, they'll just say, hey, remember when?
And you'll be like, oh, I thought I got away with that one.
Yeah, I thought we were good.
It was four years ago. No, we're not.
No, it's like, no, no, it's my turn.
You know, like, it's just how drivers are.
And like I said, you got to kind of work all this stuff out.
But again, like, I don't want this to sound like cars.
Like, I think Carson is great for the sport.
Yeah. Right.
I think he brings a ton of new fans, different fans.
Like, I mean, just the way he is
is different than the rest of us, right?
I mean, the way he speaks.
Like, he's just, he's younger, right?
Like, I'm going to say, like, I don't know what he's talking
about half the time.
Like, I don't know what these words mean, you know?
What do these words on this video mean?
I don't get it, but it's, but people love it.
And there's no denying that.
And that's great.
And that's great for our sport, for sure.
He does have a legion of fans that he has been building up
over time for sure.
But I don't understand, though.
Let me just get the finger out.
Okay, when I came into the sport and I had run-ins
with veterans and all this stuff, right?
And people hated me for that, right?
He's like, damn it.
Forever.
And to this day, I still get booed.
Like, you wouldn't believe for the things I did
when I was 19 years old.
That is odd.
That this kid comes in and wrecks way more people than I ever did.
And people love him.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
How does this happen?
What am I missing?
Mama, tell me something.
What it might be, Joey, is like, when you got in,
you were like the guy.
Like, you were dubbed going to be the guy.
And that pressure that people expect certain things,
they get mad when a young guy is dubbed the guy.
Carson wasn't dubbed it.
He just kind of came in out with you.
He kind of became, yeah, he kind of like grew into that a little bit.
And I think all the, all the accolades
that you were getting so early, maybe have,
maybe like hurt that a little bit.
That's not fair.
I didn't say it was fair.
I didn't tell you what it is.
That's not fair.
That is the truth.
Hey, but you know what?
You're a three-time champion, so who cares?
I want to touch on Connor Zillich for a moment.
As a young driver, what has it probably been like
for him going through all of those struggles now
to finally cross over and get a top 10?
Again, I can relate.
Maybe more so to Connor than I can.
Probably, yeah.
With what, as far as I was going through,
because Connor was dubbed that, that guy, right?
And he was that in the O'Reilly series.
Just like I was when I started over there, right?
On my third race, he was out there,
he wins a bunch of races too.
Like it's, it was, you know, this whole like hype,
living up to the hype, get to the cup level, uh-oh, right?
Like, and that's exactly what happened to me.
The first two years was like,
this wasn't what I was expecting.
These guys are really, really good.
And that's fact.
Like the jump from the O'Reilly series to the cup series
is the largest jump in motorsports period.
Hands down, there's not a larger jump from talent level.
Nothing against what's going on in the O'Reilly series, but-
That's not a dig.
Everybody in the cup series can go to the O'Reilly series
and win today, every single one of them.
They're all really freaking good.
I learned that, I remember,
shoot, I remember I was in my first races and I,
I thought those guys that run in the back every week
in the cup series, I'm like, I can beat them.
And then I'm watching them just lay in two black marks
off the corner, right?
Just doing burnouts off the corner.
I'm like, holy cow, these guys are really good.
And, and I couldn't keep up.
And it's just those little details,
like the talent level is amazing,
but then the details of doing it for a long time,
the experience level of the drivers,
knowing what they need in their team and their car
and how to just manipulate so much stuff.
That's what makes them great.
And it takes years to do it.
Connor will do it.
Connor's an amazing talent.
He's, he's great.
But a diamond in the rough at the moment, right?
Like he just needs to, needs to be around long enough.
And I think that's the big thing for young talent
coming in these days is that they're,
they have to give them a chance, right?
Like I almost lost my chance.
I mean, I technically did, right?
Until team Penske gave me a second chance,
but I was this close to not making it,
forget three championships, not, not making it,
not driving race cars.
And we need to give these younger guys a chance
to, to keep up and catch up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so obviously there's been a learning curve
for Connor's village.
But do you think some of that too,
is their cars that trackouts are,
are behind the eight ball a bit right now?
It's, it's, it's all, I think a lot of it is timing
and when you get somewhere, you know what I mean?
I mean, Joey just, Joey just talked about that jump
from O'Reilly's to, to Cup.
Well, also if you're not in the O'Reilly's level
at the right time and you lose one engineer,
you lose one mechanic, well that person
might have been doing a lot of different things.
And it takes the team a lot to adjust
and then to be good again.
So the Cup field is just really hard.
And like the difference between the talent not only
in the driver's seat, but in the, in the garage
as far as mechanics and crew chiefs
and just organizational properties
from O'Reilly's to Cup is also massively different.
So even though trackhouse is a place that we look at,
they're like, they've had speed and success early
and like we expect them to keep having that
and they do stuff a little different,
a little bit more fun.
In some respects, it's also really hard.
They have really smart people over there.
Yeah.
But it's just really, really hard to do this
where the pinnacle of stock car racing
and maybe motor sports as a whole,
as far as what it takes to be great for a whole team.
And Connor's a world-class driver.
He's gonna, he's gonna get there.
I'm glad he got a good finish.
I think he's probably bummed
because he probably wanted to be, you know,
if not beating, if not on SVD's bumper,
like more on the top three, top five,
and he ended up like sevens.
So that's a little bit of a bummer probably,
but you gotta stack those days.
But he also had a good day at San Diego, got taken out.
And so now he had a back-to-back good one.
So now we're going to Chicago,
and hopefully they can kind of keep building on that.
Yeah, for sure.
So he had a good day.
So too did Ty Gibbs.
Massive points stay for him winning both the stages.
And Ryan Priest, he's been slowly collecting some points.
What did you see out of those two teams?
Yeah, I mean, well, I mean,
Ty would obviously qualify and great,
and then just capitalizing, right?
Like taking advantage of the day that's there
when you have a fast car.
And Ty's a great road course racer.
He's proven that from the get-go.
So, you know, he had good speed
and was able to capitalize on the points.
And, you know, I think what people forget a lot of times
is like, okay, you took the stage one.
Remember where you have to restart
after you take the stage one?
You know, you're 20-ith-ish, right?
Like you're in the soup, right?
Like there's a lot of stuff going on, right?
Like Danny got dumped because he was in the soup back there, right?
And so that's where they put themselves multiple times
throughout the race, two times they did that, right?
And he's able to drive himself past cars, clean,
keep his car in one piece,
again, going back to like getting some experience behind you,
right? Like Ty Gibbs has the talent to do it.
And now we're starting to see him refine that talent
and get better and better.
And now you're starting to see the results.
It took three years, right?
I mean, that's just what it seems like it's taking right now.
And it took me that long too.
And like I said, if you can stay around long enough
and keep your job long enough,
there's a lot of fruit to be had for these teams.
It's just you got to hang long enough.
A cornucopia.
Cornucopia.
A fruit.
A fruit.
On the table.
On the table for you to get.
Yeah.
Young butts.
Just give yourself some Ty.
Is he Ty?
Would you see how Ty Gibbs this weekend and Ryan Priest too?
Yeah, well, one, I'll start with Priest,
one of our New England brothers.
He must be punching air right now
because he ran eighth, right?
So a great effort.
But yeah, yeah, just kidding.
But like, that's it.
Like he did get, he got stomped up and he did just that
because he had a great effort.
They ran eighth.
They had a top 10 run
and it's just he was up against SVG
in the bracket challenge.
So like, it feels like an impossible thing to do.
But Ty Gibbs, I mean, he's now 23.
He's lived some life.
Obviously he's had a lot of life things thrown at him.
But he's starting to build on those things
and becoming, not becoming,
I would say he's a man now
and has figured out more of his,
Kevin always talks about the circle of life
and he's figured out more of his circle
and what he needs around him.
And I think he's starting to become a leader of his group
and I think that matters a lot.
And he actually, I think he has the confidence.
I think he truly believes he can go toe to toe
with SVG at these road courses.
I think he's one of the only guys that thinks like,
when he goes, he's like, I think I can win
because he's run with him.
Like he's running like close, like really, really close.
Even this weekend, it looked like for a while
on the beginning of the run,
it was the long run, the SVG really kind of closed the gap.
But the middle part,
it seemed like Ty was in control for a lot of it.
So, you know, they're just going to keep clocking away
and see what happens.
I got to give credit to C-Bell though too.
That's where I was going next.
I knew how figured you were.
But C-Bell, I mean, brother,
broken wrist, running a road course,
and then like not only like was like competitive,
but like top five, I was shocked.
I was impressed.
I wondered when he got shoved off the track in turn one,
I was right behind it.
So, I was watching this like,
okay, they're about to dump each other.
But I was thinking like, he's in there with this brokerist
or whatever he's got going on.
And he's swatting flies in there, right?
He's backing forth at the steering wheel off into the dirt.
And I'm like, huh, that's got to hurt probably.
And I was like, man, I wonder how this is going to play out
here in a second.
Yeah, that was an interesting turn 11 to turn one sequence
that happened.
And I got a front row view of,
boy, I thought it was impressive he held on to the car.
I thought for sure he's going around.
And then, and obviously what he's been able to do,
he's fighting, I mean, he's hurt.
It's fact.
He's hurt and he's still quick.
Joe, do you think the only thing worse than like a right risk
or left risk break would probably be right
because you're shifting?
I had assumed so.
Right.
I feel like as a driver like that, I don't know if he'd be able to,
I mean, that's a lot of shifts all day long.
And that just pounding on it, I would assume would not be possible.
You know, I think, and obviously he's gone to two hard race tracks,
right?
Yeah, back to back.
And I know he jumped out last week, but this week,
I mean, Sonoma's no easy race track to get around,
turn the left and right and all that type of stuff, right?
I mean, this week may be a little bit easier
just because your hands are on the wheel the whole time,
both hands, right?
If you still got to take your hand off the wheel to shift,
so you're holding on with your broke hand, right?
And at some point, a lot.
It's pretty good.
Yeah, it's not bad.
It was reported to, he still does have three weeks of recovery,
but good for him also overcoming.
We just saw that slow pit stop for the 20 to move on,
to get a top five performance.
So good for him.
And good for our friend of the show,
Keelan Harvick, who had the win over the weekend,
by the way, at Evergreen Speedway, holding off his father.
What did we think of that?
If I thought Kevin was awake right now,
I'd call him and make sure to call him in on the show and ask him
why he's letting the 13 year old just belt to.
Belt to ass.
But no, Joey Keelan is Keelan has been like this
since he started racing.
He's just really good.
His race craft is really, really well, really, really good
and refined at such a young age.
And like Kevin, now that he's running more of these style races,
he's starting to close the gap back up to him a little bit.
But like he's not, he's not letting him have anything.
Like Keelan is out running him on a regular basis.
Well, knowing Kevin like I do,
he's not going to give him the easy anything, right?
Like he's going to make him earn it.
And I mean, Keelan's been in the car a lot.
A lot.
I mean, he's racing all the time.
So yeah, he might be 13 years old,
but he's got the experience of maybe a 16 or 17 year old
at this point, right?
Because he's just been in the car that often.
So his race craft is going to be better than most.
And he's got, yeah, he's got a great coach with him.
Yes, he does.
Right? Like he's got the best coach
that you can ever ask for, right?
And so I can only imagine being Kevin
because on one hand you just, you just got beat.
But it's your son and like, I'd be like,
and that's so cool.
It is cool.
Like, I mean, I would assume like watching your kids succeed
is better than yourself succeeding.
I would agree.
Like I want more for my kids than like I'd ever do myself, right?
Like that's what you want.
And to see that happening.
And especially if you know deep in your heart
as you're racing him that like you gave it your all
and he kicked your butt today, I'd be like, cool.
Like that's great.
Like you want that.
So, you know, I'm sure it's a little bittersweet
because you still got beat, but if someone's going to beat you.
He'd rather.
He never seemed family.
Family.
Yeah, like when he comes in here after weekends
when Keelan beats him, you can sell like sense of pride
for him.
He's like, yeah, just keep getting beat by him.
You know, I mean, it's cool.
It's cool.
And I'm interested to see, I mean, Keelan's 13.
So like he's really not that far from getting into
arcane trucks.
Like that's coming really quickly.
So how, how they navigate.
I mean, he's in the Toyota camp right now.
And we all know that if you're going to, you know,
go through a program right now,
they're probably the best as far as developing.
So he's in good hands.
But think about how cool and how special that is though.
I agree.
Not many people get the opportunity to do that.
To race against your dad.
Like not many people will ever get the opportunity
to compete against your father at that level.
Right.
Like in your dad was a dog, right?
Like he was having Harvard, you know what I mean?
Like, and then like you're out there with your dad race
and like those memories are, it's going to be,
I don't, I don't want to speak for Kevin,
but I assume this is the most funny he's ever had
behind a wheel.
He has said that something to that effect before.
And I would assume that years down the road,
Keelan will look back at those moments
and say there's the best time he ever had behind the wheel.
For sure.
Even, even, he's going to have a great career.
He's going to win cup races and championships
and all the stuff, right?
You see the trajectory he's on.
He's going to do it.
But I still think he's going to look back
because I mean, I still look back at just racing,
not that I raced against my dad,
but going racing with my parents when I was young.
This is the best time I had driving a race car.
Like it's still my favorite time.
So that's like a whole nother level of racing with them.
I'll tell you against them.
It's a whole nother level.
Have your kid, any of your children,
expressed an interest in racing yet?
Yes and no.
It probably just depends on the day.
Right now it's just me and Hudson.
He's the car kid right now.
Well, because we've seen the videos of.
Yeah.
So we just tear up the yard together.
We have, and that's a blast to me.
Like I'm like, if you want to race, that's fine.
Just keep racing dirt bikes with me.
This is fun for me too.
Let's do this.
We've used a lot of the Joey Logano stuff here.
Family stuff for Mamba social sips.
Like you and Danielle.
Like Danielle getting in the.
I was completely shocked when I saw that actually.
That wasn't her.
That wasn't her.
That was Joey.
We got you that good for this long.
Are you serious?
Wait a minute.
Yes, we showed it.
But of course I wasn't going to let everyone know.
Like I knew it was Joey.
She was ripping.
That is not Danielle.
I know it is ridiculous that I still didn't know that this whole time.
There was no hair or anything out of the.
Yeah, Danielle can't drive like that.
It was wide open in a full drift.
Wow.
You guys had me totally fooled for years.
Quite some time.
I can't remember when we showed that, but it was a while ago.
Sorry to tell you the tooth fairy isn't real.
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All right, we are headed to Chicagoland.
Next, Joey, we haven't been there in seven years.
So what do you think this will be like with this car?
And like, what are you guys anticipating?
Yeah, I mean, I, you know, Blaney did the tire test there.
So we got some data back from that to kind of go through,
listen to Ryan a little bit on the bumps seem like they have gotten larger,
which isn't a surprise.
I mean, I've never seen him fix himself.
So I would assume every year's it's gotten worse.
The next gen car in general, the bumps are worse in it
because you're sitting on those limiters so much.
So he's kind of sounded like, you know, restarts could be
a little sketchy when you got to go over the bump.
And that could, you know, you think about Texas turn four
when cars hit the bump and boom, that could possibly be a thing here.
How wide the track gets.
I don't think we know yet.
I mean, it used to go up to the wall.
I would assume we're going to get up there again.
You know what, and tire wear, it didn't seem like,
I mean, it seemed like they wore some, but it didn't seem like they fell off much.
But I'd assume it's going to be like everywhere else we've been lately
where they kind of hang don't fall off much and then it cliffs, right?
It just takes the tank at the end and that's, and it falls off much.
So that's what I think is going to happen.
But yeah, it's, it feels like we're going to a new track.
You know, it's been a while since we've been there,
but we're going there for the first time with this car.
You know, it feels like it's just new again.
Like it's like the first time showing up to Chicago land.
Do you think that presents an opportunity
for more of an even playing field?
Maybe.
I mean, as much as it feels like a new track,
it's still a similar track to others right that we run.
What do you say, like Kansas?
Oh, just like, yeah, maybe it's a lot bumpier in Kansas,
but like somewhere between Texas, Kansas, Charlotte,
like it's, it's within that, right?
And where the cars that are making a lot of downforce right now
are going to show up.
Toyota's are going to be, they're going to be fast, right?
Like we know that's where they're at right now.
They're going to be fast as can be.
So, you know, those are the, you know,
I would expect the same cast of characters
that have been fast lately are going to be fast again
because a track is similar.
Sure, there may be some, you know,
opportunities for somebody to hit on something different
and new with, with practice, but we'll kind of wait and see.
A lot of unknowns going into it,
which will make it fun for us on the media side,
your facial expression.
What are you expecting out there on pit lane?
And I'm, I'm expecting it to be hot as hell.
It's going to be, no, it's going to be hot this weekend,
like all over the, all over the country.
So there's a conversation that keeps coming up on,
on socials about the cool suits.
And since we have a guy that's in it, one, do you use one?
Hell yeah.
Okay.
We're Ryan Blaney.
Yeah. Can you, yeah.
So RB, RB's obviously went out this weekend
and he fought through it,
which it always seems like they go out at the war like a row course.
And I always feel like that's good.
Can you explain the difference between life before the cool suit
and life with the cool suit
and why you guys risk putting it on?
Cause I think people think that it's not worth the risk, but it is.
I mean, I'm going to say this and it's going to break this week,
but typically they've, they've done pretty well, right?
Mine's only broken a couple of times in the amount of races here.
So I'm okay taking that chance.
The teams have come up with ways that we're like, if it does break,
you can get the fluid out of the shirt to like, that's the problem.
When it, when it, when it breaks and then all the fluid sits on you.
And then it just, I mean, it's 140 degrees in the race car.
So eventually in your body temperature, it just warms this stuff up
and it feels like you're sitting in a hot tub eventually, right?
Which is not ideal, right?
When you're already in a sauna, right?
Like, you don't want hot water on you.
But boy, when it works, it's like jumping in the pool.
Like it is beautiful.
Like you create that thing on and this is, ah, you know,
and there's, there's performance gain to that.
Like if you can, yeah, there's focus,
but like think about it.
If you're going to go run a mile as fast as you can
and do it when it's 70 degrees outside and do it when it's 90 degrees outside,
tell me which time you run faster, right?
It's just like an engine, right?
It's the only one, the only one so high, right?
And you're going to start losing performance.
Well, the drivers noticed that too, where you can, you can focus,
you got to hustle these cars hard to go fast.
It's not the old days anymore when you can kind of float it around.
And these cars are like, they're twitchy, they're like got grip.
You got no grip, like you got to be quicker.
You got to be quicker with the wheel.
You got to be quicker with everything you're doing.
And that takes more out of the driver now physically than ever.
And so if you can find an advantage to keep yourself at a top level performance
personally as a driver, you're going to take that.
You're going to take the risk too.
If it doesn't work, but you're going to go for it.
I think we need to develop those for pit road reporters.
We need a cool suit under.
That is a hard job in the summer months.
The pit road reporters, I mean, the crew guys that are in the fire suits
are sitting on waiting to go over like everyone's hot.
Like everyone's that's working.
I mean, the fans are hot too.
Don't get me wrong, but you guys have beer and you guys can kind of figure that out.
Everyone else.
Yeah, you guys got to figure that out.
We, I mean, everybody is just like smoked by the end of the day.
It seems to be like there's always like four to five races a year.
Just like.
Brutal, absolute.
It's the TNT ones.
Yeah.
It's the dog days of summer.
Yes.
Indy has always won.
And we got spoiled the last two weeks.
Yes, we did.
That was a fortunate change.
And now we're going to get.
Do you have to do any different training for the summer months
or do you approach it all kind of the same?
I think just naturally your body, like I spend a lot of time outside.
I don't go inside much in general.
All right.
I mean, unless I'm doing something like this, but if I'm home, I'm outside.
Okay.
And I'm running around.
I work out outside.
So I just try to get used to the temperature as much as I can from that
standpoint to where, you know, a hundred doesn't feel that hot, right?
Like you got to get to that point.
And so there's only one way to do it is just to do it.
Yeah.
So we get used to it.
Well, that's, that's a lot to manage there for sure.
So we look forward to Chicagoland and seeing what that will present
after a big hiatus from the racetrack.
It is time now for your segment, which is his favorite.
And according to him, the entire world's favorite as well.
Did we give him a drink?
He's got water.
No, he's got water over there.
I have water.
Yeah.
Joey, you got to take a sip.
Oh, this is like part of it.
Like, yeah, even Kevin does a sip.
Guys, guys, he's, he's new here.
I like the 22 cent hat, by the way, with your deal.
Like that.
Yeah.
That's nice.
But the American, every, every Sunday.
It's very July four.
You can save 22 cents a gallon at Shell.
Good job, Joey.
See, I was trying to set you up for a promotion.
I know for race day awards.
47 doesn't give you a job.
47 doesn't give you a job.
Okay, stop hijacking my stuff.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Ladies and gentlemen, closers, my friends,
welcome to your favorite segment of the show.
We're just short and sweet on this one,
but you know, we're going to get after it all the same.
So it's summertime.
Time to get the pool, the lake.
I guess you could use this thing in the ocean,
but I probably wouldn't.
This is floaty that I found.
Oh boy.
This thing is awesome.
It, look, look at this guy.
Oh, that is cool.
No, what?
No, just wait.
Watch them take off.
Motorized?
Hell yeah.
Oh, look, they get rips too.
Look at that.
Look at that.
There's a hundred percent chance
we will build a floaty NASCAR track, it says.
Yeah.
Oh, that looks great.
Yes.
Yeah.
The caption is great.
They're like basically saying,
like, don't show this to Americans
because we will, we will have a hundred of them on,
like Norman.
Yeah.
We will be out racing these.
Absolutely.
You put a couple of buoys out there.
We'll erase.
I'd need to see if it's a real thing
or if this is just like a fake.
AI thing?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Everything seems AI now.
I don't really know the difference anymore,
but that either way, if it was AI,
someone needs to build that.
That's a whole bunch of them.
I'm in.
Yes.
You got two customers,
three customers right here.
I wouldn't even use that in the pool.
He's running like back and forth.
Sign me up.
No, sign me up.
And then there was, so everybody stayed out.
Not everybody, but people stayed out West
and obviously World Cup is going on.
You know, Fox is broadcasting.
It's been really cool.
Riley Herps and Brad Kizlowski seem to be on a similar tour
over the West Coast.
When they're at baseball games at the same game,
they were at World Cup together.
That's cute.
Watch Riley here.
Riley gets really hyped.
He knows what he's doing.
He's, but they're hyping up, you know, the whole stadium.
Okay.
And then we got Uncle Brad.
Uncle Brad.
He's just standing there like, like a, like a proud,
a proud uncle.
And he's like, watch my, look into my nephew go.
Go on, kid.
It's so funny.
And like, like that was my only part about this video
that I was just like, watching Brad the whole way.
And he's like, he's just happy to be there.
Yeah.
Not a huge reaction out of him.
He's just observing.
I do feel like it's always an awkward moment.
You know, like any time you go to a sporting event,
oh, look at him jump.
Oh, no.
I didn't tell you that part.
I didn't tell you that part.
That's funny.
But they always keep you on the screen too long.
They always go to these sporting events.
And like he's like, oh, you know,
Joe, look at us here, breakfast.
Like, you're like, hey, you know, hey,
but then they leave you there and you're like, hey, again.
One more time.
Hey, 22.
I don't know what else we got.
Like you're out of stuff and you're looking for like people around you
like, hey, get on TV.
I don't know what else to do.
You know, and so it's always like an awkward,
it's a really awkward exchange all the time.
But yeah, you get free tickets for it.
And that's good enough for me.
Cool experiences.
Yes.
Get fun social media videos.
That reminds me of Brad playing basketball.
Remember that?
No, don't bring that.
Jeff was very similar.
He still got it.
He still got it.
Brad, I didn't think that they were going to go that way, brother.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Hey, how do you not?
It was a classic moment.
It was a classic.
Real quick, this is like kind of a subset.
But I did see a video.
See what I did?
I saw a video.
I think you guys were in Pocono.
And it was basically you, Blaney, and Cindrick all like doing a Q&A like together.
And the fans really love that.
And me and Joey did one at Coke 600, Straight Talk Wireless.
And I just feel like you three together doing your,
you guys could just run your own Q&A as it be.
It's pretty much at this point.
Yeah, I feel like it's so funny.
You know, it's, it's, there are two funny dudes.
You know, like they're both hilarious.
Ryan's funny in his way.
And Austin's funny in his way.
It's a completely different way.
And so are you.
So the three of you.
Everyone just kind of like gets along pretty well.
And like, when you take us away from the race cars,
like, can we take the racing stuff very serious?
Don't be wrong.
Like our meetings are very serious.
But Austin's always up for some wild thing that comes out of nowhere.
Like, then I'm like, what?
I could see that.
You know, he's a funny dude.
That's good.
It's a nice thing.
His analogies are very unique.
Oh, I'm sure.
A lot of things are Austin Cindrick that people don't know.
And if they knew, they'd be like, no,
that might be my favorite person in the garage.
Probably so.
Probably so.
And Austin can be the one to let you guys know what those things are.
But thank you again for coming to Mamba's Social Sips.
Joey, welcome to the, welcome to this segment.
I mean, I feel like I must just take a sip now too.
You can do whatever you want.
I was just, you know.
How was NASCAR Sundays, by the way?
Oh man, NASCAR.
So Joey's a big, Joey's a big supporter of NASCAR Sundays.
That's nice.
They gave us 44 tickets to the concert to give to our,
our people that come out to Joey's foundation concert.
So we had, I think we had another 50, 60 people that showed up to hop in,
in Southend.
And then this week we're going to a new venue.
Going to Tiber Creek.
Tiber Creek.
Where's that at?
Tiber Creek is in Southend.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
I don't know either.
I don't know how to explain it.
But it is GPS and it's going to show up there.
Tiber Creek is one of my favorite spots to go to.
They got, they're going to have an Irish band out there.
And they have like a big projector that drops down.
So it's going to be fun.
Don't miss it.
Don't miss NASCAR Sundays.
You know what this weekend is?
July 4.
Yeah.
But do you know it?
You know what it's America's birthday.
So it's a birthday.
Too fitty.
This is a big week in general for our country.
That's right.
It's exciting.
I'm excited.
Speaking of excited, SVG was quite so after his victory.
Take a look at this burnout.
I think it is one of the best we've had this year.
I was sitting here alive.
I bet it was loud.
I, it was so loud.
But I thought he was going to hit the wall eight times.
Yeah.
Jerry, watch him sling this thing around.
Like you're doing this.
I feel like you do the, the like 720 situation.
Like stylized.
He's got good car control.
Now watch this part.
Yeah.
Now this is pretty cool.
Yeah.
And I love how the team gets in on it every time.
He knows the high fives to the crew and the wall.
So this is how I know how much this one meant to him.
Because he always does a good burnout,
but this one just kept going and going.
I think it was a relief of a lot of things.
Of like, God, I want that.
He's expected to win, right?
He got wrecked last week.
And he didn't win by a lot.
You know, like a lot of times when you win by 15 seconds,
you're just like relieved.
Like, okay, good one.
You know, like we didn't, you know,
you're just waiting for something to go wrong.
But when you barely win it, you're like,
there's just a lot more emotion, right?
You're pushing harder.
You're running as hard as you possibly can.
You're getting caught and you're able to hold them off.
There's like a, you don't know,
you got it until you get to the start finish line.
And so the emotions are larger.
And he showed it with their cool.
So we, we, we grade it.
We do a number scale, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
Well, it depends on Kevin's mood.
Sometimes it's a letter, like an A.
Kevin gets confused about like A's and 10s.
And what would you grade that burnout?
That's a 10.
You think it's a 10?
That's a 10 burnout.
That 10 burnout.
I mean, like he, he's got good control.
He didn't like, to me sometimes,
if you just put it up against the wall, no talent,
just cool smoke show.
Not hard to do too easy.
But you know, he's slinging the thing around
on a pretty narrow area.
He's using the clutch.
He grabbed a gear at one point.
Like he went for more smoke.
You know, he knew like,
I need more wheel spin here.
I need more, more smoke.
And then coming by and bringing the team into the burnout.
Exactly.
That's a full 10.
That is a full 10.
I, you know, award the creativity side.
Yeah, we like, we like the showmanship on the show.
And I got to believe that the next time you see
the double deuce in victory lane,
there'll be some showmanship.
Yeah, I, I, I would like to do the high 51 there too.
It just depends on where you win.
Yeah, well, yeah, you can't do that everywhere.
It doesn't work everywhere.
Yeah.
What I do like with the burnouts though,
a lot of times it's like, they'll have the, you know,
whoever a reporter is to interview and start finish line.
And there'd be like standing there with their pickup truck
and all you're just like,
and they're like, back up.
I'm coming at Jake running out there with his camera.
And I'm like, bro, what are you,
but he, he gets in there though.
I know.
Like you like, like you start doing donuts.
I did donuts around him one time.
He's just in the middle and I was just going around him.
Like it's cool.
It is.
He's got a lot of trust in us.
He does.
He's one of the best though out there in general,
being able to capture those moments.
Okay.
So we're giving him a high marks 10, 10 for SPG.
Speaking of point standings,
some of us picked SPG.
So, so I don't know if how much you,
how much you follow this segment of the show
because I, it's not really great for me.
So I'm sure you turn off at this point.
Okay.
But, but, uh, so Kevin has been leading the points now
for probably a few weeks.
He's got a pretty healthy lead here.
And, but Caitlin won our championship last year.
Because it basically reset.
How did it reset?
It resets because we reset with everything else.
Okay, reset with the, like with the playoffs last year.
Okay.
So you're going to reset again.
And I picked the champion.
And she picked the champion.
Correct before the season started.
So that was an extra point.
So Kevin's bonus points.
Kevin's changed the rules.
Of course.
Because it can't stand.
Because it's Kevin Harvick's happy hour.
Not, not Caitlin Vinces.
Also, Kevin got really mad at us
that he took the week off of like back.
What was that?
Yeah.
I don't know.
It was a, it was a earlier in the year.
He got really mad at us.
He took the week off.
So he didn't get a pick.
But he could have sent it in.
So now he's mad at us that we didn't give him a pick.
But he wasn't here.
But he wasn't here.
Yeah.
So I texted him yesterday to make sure that he sent a pick in.
And he was not happy with me.
He's like, you know, you should have just let it like crash and burn basically.
Got to be present to win.
You got to show up if you want to win.
So, so Joey, who are you picking?
This week?
Yeah.
I mean, I liked the 22.
Yeah.
Why, why do you like the 22?
Well, you know, I think he's, you know, the driver's a good guy.
You know, I think he's, you know, he's, he's really hungry right now.
Really needs a win.
Needs it really bad.
You know, so I think that's a, that's a big deal right now.
I think the team wants it.
Can you set your source on that?
Yeah, I can.
My source is pretty reliable on this one.
He knows him really well.
He spoke to him earlier today, actually.
Oh, you did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he was like, you can tell the anger and frustration inside of him and just needs,
he needs this.
Okay.
So we have a vote of confidence for the 22 from the 22 camp.
And what say you, Mamba?
I'm actually going to throw a little bit of a curve ball to our production team.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to go with C bell.
I, I, Joey kind of convinced me with like, you know, I believe in the height,
whoever's been good on the downforce tracks matters.
And I think C bell has a lot of fire right now.
Just because I think people kind of account them out and he kind of showed some of that
Sonoma.
And now he can kind of be back in his element per se here at Scotland.
I am doing a Toyota as well.
Tyler Redick is my selection.
The solid pick.
Yeah.
So that's who I'm going to pick.
If I didn't have the sources that I have, I would have probably picked him.
Yeah.
Well, we'll see.
And apparently Kevin did submit his pick and he also went with a Toyota of Chase Briscoe.
So there you have it.
Yeah.
We'll see how those three selections fair.
Tell me real quick, since we're still on this segment before we,
you know, move on.
Can you tell me if you think it's fair?
Not fair.
Fair is nothing.
Oh boy.
Do you think it's, I don't think it's as fun because Kevin will do this.
He'll pick the 11 for almost every oval.
He always takes SVG on a road course.
And he takes SVG without a doubt on every road course.
How does the order go?
It varies.
And everybody, and everybody can, we can pick the same one.
You can pick the same job if you want.
But I'm like, you know, you know, go on a limb guy.
Right?
Like, yeah, step out of the box.
Yeah, step out of the box, Kevin.
Don't pick the obvious.
Yeah, he doesn't.
You should do it to where you have like, you can only pick each driver,
like three times throughout the year.
Oh, that's a nice caveat.
Then you can change it up.
Then you're forced to do that.
Because he's picked Denny about five times.
Because Kevin likes to win.
Kevin's going to do what it takes to win.
That's what I was about to say.
So you got to like put rules around.
He's parameters.
He ain't going to go for that.
Mention him winning.
So the standings right now, Kevin at 87, me to 66, Tamamba, 56.
So we'll see how different.
That looks after you didn't smoke.
Yeah, but hang on.
I mean, you're on a limb, but you probably need to rain it back in a little bit.
But think about, but my two wins were back to back with two different guys.
Ty Gibbs was one of them.
Ty Gibbs was one of them at Bristol, and then it was Briscoe.
That's like, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's right.
But you know, that's not right.
I know Ty Gibbs was one of them, whatever.
But and so he went on a limb.
No, I'm not saying that's a limb, but it was impressive.
But when he picked SVG for six road courses.
I mean, it is the one to pick, though.
And it is the fans.
No, I mean, see, I'm not sure.
Yeah, everyone should have picked him.
No, help him be over here.
All right.
Well, we'll have to see how his Chase Briscoe selection does this weekend in Chicago.
Hey, it's been really fun having you on the show.
I've enjoyed it too.
Thank you so much for being here.
We appreciate it.
Come back anytime and make sure you wear that shirt when you do.
It's a designated shirt.
I don't really wear the fire suit either.
I get it.
I get it now.
I wasn't married then.
We appreciate the nostalgia with that t-shirt.
All right.
For Joey, Mamba, myself, that does it for us on this edition of Happy Hour.
Make sure you follow us on Harvick Happy Pot,
and we will see everyone after Chicago.
Two twos.
Two twos.
About this episode
Joey Logano steps in as guest host for Kevin Harvick, bringing along a hilarious throwback shirt from their infamous past feud. Alongside Caitlin Vinci and Mamba Smith, Logano recaps the action-packed West Coast swing, focusing on the Sonoma race. The crew breaks down Shane van Gisbergen's continued dominance on road courses and how he is forcing the entire field to elevate their game. They also analyze Chase Briscoe's near-miss, Denny Hamlin's surprising road course resurgence, and the tightening points battle as the Cup Series heads toward Chicagoland.
Original notes
The road course action at Sonoma did not disappoint, and we have plenty of drama to unpack! Fill-in host Joey Logano stops by to share his unfiltered take on Carson Hocevar and what it's like racing against NASCAR’s new rising stars.
Plus, we dive into SVG’s absolute road-course dominance, Ty Gibbs' strong day, Christopher Bell’s heroic top-5 run while battling an injury, and a look ahead to Chicagoland returning to the NASCAR schedule for the first time since 2019.
⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00:00 - Show start
00:00:11 - Joey Logano is filling in for Kevin!
00:01:54 - NASCAR's West Coast swing
00:05:42 - SVG road-course dominance
00:08:30 - Chase Briscoe's strong run
00:09:45 - Denny Hamlin is the new points leader
00:11:30 - Carson Hocevar spins Denny Hamlin
00:12:00 - Logano on Hocevar & Young Drivers
00:18:20 - Connor Zilisch's rookie season
00:22:25 - Ty Gibbs & Ryan Preece run well
00:25:30 - C. Bell P5 with injury
00:27:40 - Keelan vs. Kevin Harvick
00:34:00 - Return to Chicagoland
00:40:30 - Mamba's Social Sips
00:47:51 - Rating SVG's burnout
00:49:40 - Chicagoland picks
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