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Chevrolet Corvette
The Corvette is a famous sports car made by Chevrolet. It's known for being fast and stylish, and many people love it for its performance.
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Barrett-Jackson auction
Barrett-Jackson is a famous car auction where people buy and sell classic and collectible cars. It's a big event for car lovers.
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Ferrari SF90
The Ferrari SF90 is a very fast sports car that uses both a gasoline engine and electric motors to go really fast. It's one of the newest models from Ferrari and is known for its high performance.
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Ford GT
The Ford GT is a fast sports car made by Ford. It has a unique look and is built for speed and performance, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.
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Plymouth Aries K
The Plymouth Aries K is a small car made by Plymouth in the 1980s. It's not very popular today and is often seen as a basic, inexpensive vehicle.
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Dodge Aries
The Dodge Aries is a small car that was made in the 80s and 90s. It's known for being affordable and practical, making it a good choice for families back then.
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muscle car
Muscle cars are fast cars that usually have big engines and a sporty look. They became really popular in the 1960s and 1970s for their speed and power.
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non-numbers matching
'Non-numbers matching' means that the parts of a car, like the engine, don't match the original numbers that came from the factory. This can make the car less valuable to collectors.
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bring a trailer
Bring a Trailer is a website where people can buy and sell classic cars through online auctions. It's popular for finding unique and interesting vehicles.
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Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang is a famous sports car that started being made in the 1960s. It's known for its powerful engine and stylish look, and many people love the older models from that time.
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four cam V8
A four cam V8 is a type of engine that has four camshafts, which help control how air and fuel enter and exit the engine. This design helps the engine perform better and produce more power.
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slalom test
A slalom test is a way to see how well a car can turn quickly by driving it through a line of cones. It helps show how good the car is at handling and turning.
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Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 is a super-fast sports car that was made in the early 1990s. It's known for its powerful engine and sleek design.
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Chevrolet Tahoe
The Chevrolet Tahoe is a large SUV that was popular in the 1990s. The two-door version is less common and is known for being stylish and capable off-road.
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LT4
The LT4 is a powerful engine made by Chevrolet. It's known for being very fast and is used in some of their sports cars.
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Nissan 300 ZX
The Nissan 300 ZX is a sporty car that was made in the late 80s and early 90s. It's known for being fast and having a cool look, making it a favorite among car fans.
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four-wheel steering
Four-wheel steering means that not just the front wheels, but also the back wheels can turn. This helps the car handle better, especially when making sharp turns.
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Ford Fox Body
The Ford Fox Body is a type of car that Ford made from 1979 to 1993, especially known for the Mustang. People like to modify these cars to make them faster or look cooler.
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Coyote swap
A Coyote swap is when you take out an old engine from a car and put in a new, powerful engine called the Coyote V8. It makes the car much faster and more fun to drive.
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Lightning swap
A Lightning swap is when you take the powerful engine from a special Ford truck called the Lightning and put it into another car. This makes the car much faster and more exciting to drive.
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Shelby GT500
The Shelby GT500 is a super-fast version of the Ford Mustang. It's famous for having a really powerful engine and is loved by people who enjoy muscle cars.
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Fox body
The 'Fox body' is a type of Ford Mustang that was made from 1979 to 1993. It's popular because it's light and can be easily modified for better performance.
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Mercedes 300 SL Gullwing
The Mercedes Gullwing is a famous classic car with doors that open like wings. It's known for being fast and beautiful, and many people love to collect them.
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Mercedes-Benz SL
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studded tires
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Waymo
Waymo is a company that creates cars that can drive themselves without a human driver. They use advanced technology to navigate roads and traffic safely.
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force feedback
Force feedback is a feature in some steering wheels that lets you feel how the car is responding to the road. It makes driving feel more realistic by giving you a sense of grip and control.
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g-load
G-load is a measure of how heavy something feels when a car accelerates or turns. It helps understand how much grip the tires have on the road.
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loss of grip
Loss of grip happens when the tires can't hold onto the road anymore, which can make the car slide or feel unstable. It's important for drivers to understand how to manage this to stay safe.
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fixed seat
A fixed seat is a car seat that doesn't move or adjust. It stays in one place, which can help drivers feel more stable and connected to the car.
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oversteer
Oversteer is when the back of a car slides out during a turn, which can make it hard to steer the car properly. It’s like when you turn too sharply and the back feels like it’s going to spin out.
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BMW E320
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Mercedes-Benz E500
The Mercedes-Benz E500 is a sportier version of their E-Class cars, which are known for being luxurious and powerful. It's a good choice if you want a fast and comfortable ride.
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kill switch
A kill switch is a device that can turn off a car's engine to prevent it from being driven. It's like an emergency button that stops the car if the driver is too drunk to drive safely.
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Porsche 911
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Toyota Supra
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Honda That Honda
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BMW E90
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BMW M3
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Mercedes-Benz Eclass
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Plymouth Prowler
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Bmw Z8
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Alpina Z8
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Chevrolet SSR
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BMW Z4
The BMW Z4 is a fancy sports car that you can drive with the top down. It's known for being fun to drive and has a stylish design that many people like.
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BMW Z3
The BMW Z3 is a small, sporty convertible car that was popular in the 90s. It's known for being fun to drive and has a classic look that many people enjoy.
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Toyota GR Corolla
The Toyota GR Corolla is a sportier version of the regular Corolla car. It's made for people who love to drive and want a car that feels exciting and fast.
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Cadillac Escalade
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Nissan Maxima
The Nissan Maxima is a bigger car that's comfortable and fun to drive. It's a good choice for families who want something reliable but still sporty.
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Acura Nsfx
The Acura NSX is a super-fast sports car that's known for being very well made. It's popular among car lovers because it can be driven every day while still being exciting on the road.
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Porsche Boxster
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All right folks on this episode of the program. I spent some time at the Barrett Jackson auction in Scottsdale
I had a really weird Waymo ride dropped off our new project Mercedes to get it going and
We tried a totally new type of racing simulator. It's the smoking tire podcast. Let's go
Should we begin in the beginning? Yeah, or we could go from the front the back to the front
Prefer the front way like huh white back to front back to front always sure really sometimes front to back
Which are not back. Yeah, I should always front back
Hi, well
Hi
Man, it's been I thought we might not have things to talk about but boy
Do we have things to talk about there have been things that have happened?
One more much shorter shout out to
Minneapolis, I got a bunch of nice emails from people. Yeah that are fucking getting shit done out there
And and I really it was nice to hear from those folks
Stay warm continue getting shit done. We we appreciate you from fucking 1500 miles away
But in our world some some things happened
Let's see where do I start okay?
Let's start a week ago when I went to Barrett Jackson
So like if you're my age or my age ish or maybe a little older maybe a little younger
You know Barrett Jackson streaming on TV for a week straight like was like a staple of my car youth
Yes, I would watch it like it was like horse racing. You know what I mean?
You'd watch it like it was gambling almost. Wow. What do you think that's gonna work? You know, they're they're televised auctions have fucking
They changed the game. I mean totally changed the game and I hadn't been to Barrett Jackson
I've only been once before and it was a very long time ago, and I wanted to go back
I was passing through
Scottsdale while it was going on our pal Mike musto was there finally met that dude soupy who's awesome
Yeah, by the way, I expected soupy to be like an old Polish man not he's not an all he's like a young
Yeah, you didn't know you never seen him before I think okay. No
No, no, so yeah, he did not look like I expected someone named soupy to look anyway
We walked around we fucking saw all this stuff to the car wise
Well, we really there's like at the high end there was like dude
Look, there's like look multiple SF in the background of this shot, which I'll tell you why but there's like seven new gen
4gt's all these SF 90s blah blah blah right fine
You got to go to the sold tent where the cars that sold on like Monday and Tuesday are sitting because that's where the gold is
That's where the cheap cars around right because they build more it gets more expensive throughout the week right more or less
I think it culminates on Saturday and then pairs off a little bit on Sunday
But like it builds from Monday to Saturday in terms of like expected value because if you can get drunk and bid on a Tuesday
They thought you can't buy that much car. You cannot do that much damage on Tuesday, right?
But so but the cars that sell on Monday and Tuesday then go into like side tents now
I didn't take any pictures of those because I just I
Don't know. We're just talking about cars. I wasn't taking pictures
But like I was I was seeking value and let me tell you the value that I found first off
If you're within like driving distance of Barrett Jackson of Scottsdale
It's a fucking thing to see it is absolutely
One of the great American car
Spectacles that's worth seeing specifically the Scottsdale one. It's enormous. There's so many fucking cars
You can get so drunk. I I didn't get a bidder's pass. I just bought a GA ticket because I was just like whatever
Apparently if you buy like even the basic level of bidder's pass it comes with a shocking number of drink tickets
It's like something like 10 drinks a day or something crazy number. You can get fucking shwaisted
And then you can buy right
Not just cars. I'll show you in a second some other things you can buy there
But like just the silliest stuff imaginable, right? And also it's like
Compared to like your your car week auctions or your Amelia Island auctions or any of your other like really prestigious auctions
This is like a fucking circus this thing. I mean, there's the cars in this are fucking all I mean, there's great
There's unbelievable and then there is
Straight-up garbaggio. I mean and it's it's just crazy thing to see. What was the cheapest?
Auction result you saw, you know, I saw a car that was one that went for $1,000. Wow. Yeah, okay
It was like an Aries K, you know, like a Plymouth air dodge Aries like that terrible
You know two box today made out of cardboard. Yeah, something like that
And there was a couple of sub $5,000 like shit boxes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, but like there's a lot like if
Barrett Jackson 25k
Goes a long way a long way 25k gets you into a pretty fabulous
Non-numbers matching muscle car that is a set of new wheels away from being like a totally decent car
That you could like the number of cars with like heinous 90s wheels that were otherwise fine
That were like
$22,000 you just put the stock wheels back on and do a great detail and a great photo shoot
They're 35 on bring a trailer like a week later
Like there's a there's a business in that because this is people are so lazy selling their cars there or and or they think
They're like wheel choices are good and they are not or they were good, you know on trend 35 years ago
Well, some people still think mods add value like those wheels cost four grand in 2002 and yeah
So there was a lot of that there's so for you I tell even texted you yeah, and I was like Habibi
I know you love a late 60s Mustang like there's a bunch of like almost turnkey shit here
Like there's there were so many stuff those I should bring Sarah this thing number of like fucking you know
you name it
Like just see three Corvettes and and and just you know mid-year Mustangs and like some really nice stuff, too
But like, you know, okay, but I the value I really saw it was like
25k we'll get you a
1993 Corvette ZR1 black black with under 30,000 miles Wow, which for our like the
Performance bargain that that is because like those things don't look like much, but they are really really fast
Yeah, like that's like a 400 horsepower car with a four cam v8 and it's
Transaxle it's the light and they turn in like crazy that car had the
When car and driver did was doing the slot. I think they still did the slalom test
But that thing was the record holder in the slalom test for like a couple of years
So I saw three of those
three ZR ones for 25k or less I
Really liked these aren't for everybody, but I really like the mid 90s two door Tahoe's
Oh, yeah, I think those are fucking pretty cool
Ron Baugh has the sick one and who else someone else did Zach put a LT4 in one
Somebody put a LT4 in a two-door Tahoe and it was pretty nuts. I think Zach Mertens
saying yeah, yeah horse power what
So the ZR1 test in car and driver it actually got beat by the 300 zx turbo by 4.8 miles per hour in 1991
Oh, so to have it had it before that it had it in
89 to 91 maybe did that
91
He has the super steering and all that stuff. Oh, I had four-wheel steering right high-casts. Yeah. Oh, how interesting
But anyway, those things drive they drive awesome and they're cheap
You know I rocks Fox bodies
Built Fox bodies like went for big money like a turnkey
Kind of OEM plus looking with like a coyote swap is like a $45,000 car
That makes sense. That's still with a coyote swap. That's pretty rad. Yeah one. I saw one with a
What was it the with a lightning swap of 5.4?
Supercharged
Lightning swap that's a GT 500 before it was proper. Yeah, it was in a Fox body
It was and that was a $50,000 car
Coops or hatches they were hatches. I did not see a notch. Yeah, no notches
I actually I was surprised at how few Fox bodies there were there. I really only saw maybe four
Granted there could have been some in like the other because there was a whole other I
Was there like four hours? There's a whole other room of cars that like we're gonna sell
Like we wanted to see because when it sells they put the price on the window
So we wanted to see what shit was selling for and we were it was the equivalent of looking through the results tab
Right sold thing, you know, that's what we wanted to say. So
The knots we didn't even really bother so much with the not yet sold
And there was some cool stuff. We walked briefly through it and some really wild like shit
So many cars was it musta was like I saw that at SEMA five years ago
I saw that at SEMA six years ago. I remember that from SEMA like yeah, you know, it was it was
But my favorite part of Bear Jackson is not the cars. It's the sideshow tent. It's the like sort of
It's like it's like a craft fair but for like blue collar ballers
So like if you want a pontoon boat or a hot tub or a massage chair or like some
item of like
Blue collar luxuriousness like this is your mall like every like all of the role like nothing will make you feel less cool
Wearing a steel Rolex than seeing the jewelers in there with a case with like
500 steel Rolexes every single one you can imagine like they've got it right there and some dude
It's like eight drinks in is like yep
So that's a place to because if you go into a Rolex store, they'll make you buy five other watches for these are second hand
But so these are second hand, but is this the place to go to get a watch like if you unless you want to buy one online
I mean like are there watch auction events that are similar. I'm sure there are there are watch auctions
But not not for like Submariners and shit
There's watch auctions for like important watches and vintage watches and stuff and like you can get some affordable things
But you know, you'll see stuff that like cars where watches are millions of dollars, but you just want a Kermit
Go to Barrett Jackson for it pick up a Kermit and like I so these
These like jewelers that are in this thing. They're there. I've not vent. I'm not verified these people
They're all dressed like these guys on Instagram
That go to like the wholesale and they're like haggling
You know what I mean? They're wearing essentially a suit without a jacket or a tie
Just the suit shirt and the suit pants and shoes, right? Watch on each wrist, right couple rings and
You know very clean skin and they're all like, you know thin and and
Fucking, you know, there's a big counter like a big counter. That's like art
You know the size of our table, but like it's like that and an L
So it's imagine that but then there's like eight people behind the counter. Oh wow
Okay, so it's kind of aggressive
It's like it's like a like a bullpen. It's like Wall Street or something over there. So like
Are the watches they're selling real and genuine and I don't know I would I would I buy a watch from them?
Spidey sense says probably not and I'm not like I'm not trying to single out any individual like I don't even remember the names of them
I they're just they're just
They could be it could be a website like it's the same as like, you know, not Bob's but like any number of
Places on the internet that sell second-hand watches. So like I would say like if you're capable of
Immediately identifying whether something is genuine and you're comfortable buying like that but like
Okay, anyway
There are watches. There's also cowboy boots and fucking knives. So so anyway
So that's where I ended up taking pictures of stuff because you know very rarely does a car stop me in my tracks
So go back to the first picture the first picture. This is in
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You know one of the things they do are these charity auctions
Which always raised so much money and on the surface of it. I am not against a charity auction of any kind
It's fine. So here's a Mercedes
Gullwing who's donated to a charity auction. Can you see the beneficiary of the auction there's that
CHP 1199
Foud nation
First off, it's fat. It's the CHP 1199
Foud nation misspelled foundation on their very large poster that is
About the size. It's I mean it's as tall as the car. It's as tall as the car
Yeah, pretty much. So that's the one thing and the other thing is the CHP 119
This is like where you where everyone knows you donate money if you want to get out of if you want to not get tickets
How many tickets do you need to be getting a year where you have to donate a 300 SL?
You know just get out of them for the next ten years when we saw this
I I was like, okay
So if you you know if you go to their website if you buy, you know, you donate 50 bucks
You get like a sticker if you donate like, you know
2,000 bucks and I'm making up the numbers, but they're not far off you donate something in the thousands you get that license plate frame
And that's what everybody wants everybody wants that 1199 license plate frame. That's the immediate identifier in California
If you gave get pulled over of I've donated money. Do you have the prices handy sack?
No, I was looking at the budget increases for the CHP year over year, but so and then you know
You can there's all you can like get a badge if you give enough money
I mean if you give them like 20 grand or something. It's like you get like a badge. It's crazy. It's crazy and it's just
I've never heard of any one donating money for any other reason then what bit of shiny jewelry that says
1199 on it. Do you get to show a cop if you get pulled over?
My theory is if you if you buy this car
You actually get issued a California driver's license with the name Bruce Meyer on it. That's pretty much
Give you a cop car a uniform
I mean you get the whole thing you actually get for this car full credentials. Oh, we have it. Yeah, here's the cheer
Oh, yeah, here we go classic level
3g's you get a glass plaque one license plate frame
Leather wallet and brass an ID card and a plastic ID card. That's 3g's
5g's gets you a crystal star award a
Laptop backpack to license plate frames leather registration holder leather
registration
Leather wallet and brass ID card and plastic and then it's 10g's you get it a judge
Jack it with an 1199 logo a tree bag a top kit
Coffee mugs the logo cap a hat. Yeah, you get fucking full-on
Well, you get you get more and more things so that no matter what you grab in your house
You'll you'll have something that'll say 1199. You just get more stuff. There's more tears
Well, oh my god, there's so many more way go back up
But also like also you with the jacket in the hat
Well, that's because you really have more than two cars and you only get two frames
So you need to have something that identifies you at that level true when you're in another car
Now do you think the top kit is so that if you hire a sex worker and they come over and it's a sting and then as they're
About to put the cuffs on you. They see that and they go
We'll let it slide. Yeah, I know CHP doesn't do vice. Maybe they do
All right, wait, I thought that was the highest. I didn't realize that was only silver gold 25k
Oh, my jacket you get the backpack the duffel
To coffee tumblers the cap to license plate frames. I have to say I
Don't
I don't think you get a whole lot more for 25k to be honest with you
It doesn't seem like you do at a hundred K the platinum level
You know personalized platinum award a platinum level watch
God, I want to know what the platinum level watch
You get invites to events where you guys
That's probably one the platinum level jacket with the 1199 logo. That's a big one
This is the entry-level politician level
Yeah, you need to rub elbows with these people and get there, you know, you know
250 the list gets shorter again
Private events with CHP top brass an 1199 CEO
recognition in perpetuity at the museum
Hosted travel and tour of the academy exclusive as name displayed at the headquarters and the annual report
Okay, this is about putting your name in other things that they broadcast out to other people
Diamond license planes plate frames black with chrome lettering at the diamond level
Wow, and then here's the watch. Let's see the watch. Oh, it's a Cromwell
$100,000
Oh my god, look at that
Dare I say absolute piece of shit looking watch that's fucking crazy all this watch
This is just this is one step behind having a police badge. I mean it's got it has real listening
It has a CHP star like
In the middle of the watch so it's just so that on your left hand when the police officer walks up
They see that let me just check the time. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. So anyway, this is what you're getting by
Giving money to this organization in case you're wondering so
Anyway that I thought that was very funny you think for all that money they could spell the sign out nation
Foud nation. What if that's this? What if the sign is right and it's a fucking fake? That's what I was thinking
Yeah, what if you think the sign is accurate and you're donating to a mimicking
Organization with a different but similar
Imagine the balls to make a fake police organization and then try to get away with that crime like
Yeah, they'll all be after you. I mean look I had someone who worked for the police
Steal a digital tracking device from my car for purposes of using it for digital tracking what?
When I got arrested for street racing back in New York and my car was impounded a cop stole my
Yeah, and was commuting with it. Yeah, that's the level of thinking we're out here
Let's see the next photo
The next photo is what you'd call good conservative art
You know, they always conservatives always talk about how like arts to woke like whatever this is this is like
Americana threw up all over this is like you're decorating a low-level ski lodge in
2002
Basically is the Wells Fargo
Carriage which is a real full-size was that is this an area sponsored by Wells Fargo?
No, this is a place selling this artwork. This is this it's big eagles huge and like a literal Indian
Lot of wood carvings of eagles that I mean some of these look six feet tall. Yeah, huge huge on giant pedestals
horses and eagles and
Americana
shit
Yeah, yeah, oh and you've got like the the stock exchange bowl right here. Yeah. Yeah, you can put somewhere
Yeah, you need to have such a big house to just yeah big but imagine like how awful your house would be decorated
This statue. It's two eagles like dancing or whatever is literally twice the size of these grown men standing right next to it
I think that one probably goes outside
Yeah, so what's so keep going we've got we've got more would you like so Zach flew in the pivotal
Man, what do you what do they call it? I forget what they call this thing. I forget to it's like
Yeah, he looks it's what style of vehicle is it it's like a drone you fly. Oh, it's yeah, electric vertical takeoff right
So you flew in that and that you and
How do you feel looking at this particular e-V tol about whether or not it would be
Safe, I honest the honest thing to say is I don't know because all of like
There's the hardware side of these things and there's the software side of these things the only reason I trusted pivotal
Is because I have friends that work at Boeing and other drone companies and I said have you heard of these people and they said yes
Otherwise I wouldn't have gotten in there and no disrespect to pivotal
So with with these guys that have built this
You just and I've seen a lot of like clips of these different machines being sold or being like promoted to be for sale a lot of this
personalized
electric vertical takeoff stuff and
How long's the ride? It's so easy you hop in you just control with a joystick
I mean, there's so much that needs to go into the training for these things. Yeah, so anyway, they they were selling these
This is an eight. This is an eight rotor. So it's this is a lot like
It's a big DJI thing, you know, you've got yeah, basically two rotors at each corner and
They probably spend like opposing directions
I mean, I don't know this stuff excites me. It seems fun, but I wouldn't want to get in them for like another
Five years. Yeah, it seems it seems. I don't know
I don't want to I don't want to pass judgment on this thing if it's been tested and whatever but like
It just looks shady. I just just looking at it. It looks kind of shady. I don't know
I don't think I
Mean the one I was in like looked cool because it was all carbon and you can see that
But it had to be a certain weight right had to be very light
Yeah, so if it fell out of the sky if I had done something wrong
The carbon is not protecting me very much like it's the ground is true yours. So this looks more exposed
I think which might make you feel a little bit unnerved what I will say this would be way easier to take off and
Land because it doesn't tilt up or down. This has a traditional helicopter
configuration with like skids and a traditional helicopter seating position visibility is better. Yeah, so I don't know
It's just this was being sold right next to that artwork and a bunch of Rolexes and cowboy boots and you know
Trips on to go on quail hunts. There's something amazing that this was across the aisle from like eagle sculptures like a hundred years
20 years ago like the eagle, you know, was the thing that flew. Yeah, and now we've got this for sale in a mall. Yeah, okay
So so this is you have the millionaire gallery here
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Which has a bunch of these sort of composite?
Things where it's photos of famous people
Alongside their signatures. It's like shadow boxes got it
Okay, and then there's the the weird one of fucking Trump may be getting shot at the top quarter
There's like a Marlboro F1 one. That's a Senoral Shelby. Yeah. Yeah
That kind of stuff like this sort of Americana
The the millionaire yeah, there's sort of like the this sort of worship of these of successful
It's totally an altar for a person
Yes, like we got their signature when we cornered them outside of bathroom
But then we took pictures from the internet and printed them and all that stuff
Yeah, that's so go to the next one because there was around the back was really creepy Trump fantasy art
So I got it captain Trump sparrow, dude
Even regardless of your politics, this is hilarious is Trump's face in captain's Jack sparrow garb like head to toe in front of a
Navy destroyer
With like a like a it's not a real signature
It's like an imagery of his signature on like a name tag there and then on top it says like
A whole bunch of like quote accomplishments
Of his that most of which are not actually real like stopped eight wars and things like that
No, you know what it says
It says where he was born where he went to college
It says he produced the apprentice and then he appointed three supreme court justices
and
Yeah, that's what that says. Okay that one that one actually at least has some truth to it though
There's another there was another one. I saw this one. I thought was the funniest imagery
But there was one of him as like
Fucking atlas picking up the world
There's like there was one that was him as like a like an like an Aristotle
You know and the one the aris. I think it was the Aristotle one that was like the world piece
This is proof that it's not just AI making bad art that just this was probably made by AI
That was but like was it a sculpture alice or him just holding something like no, it was like these it was like a pain
It was from this particular
And there was yeah, so then we have the venezia gallery here. This is like
gigantic bronze sculptures
But of also mostly americana like
Big wildlife stuff to horses bucking and eagles and deers and fucking lions and shit
You have an estate and you need something on that lawn, right? I mean this these are humongous
but also like
not very like
They're they they're the kind of things that decorate a certain mid tier level of hotel
I you don't see this in like
The really nicely designed homes. I guess I mean I don't I don't have that much exposure to those places, but I think
if you have a
Giant hotel that's out in the middle of like montana and you just go we need something
Yeah, that's what I'm saying and you just you shove a giant horse in it or like an elk because that's exactly what I'm saying
Is the kind of stuff you'd put in a mid tier hunting lodge? I think yeah
I think that's just how hotels work. They gotta remind you of the thing you're already doing. Yeah
Continue then we had all sorts of weird Trumpy iconography this place sold pianos
And yet they had a trump mannequin playing the most femme looking liberace ass piano
Well, I think you're missing the big detail with these pianos and don't sue me
This is a joke is that these pianos are all probably under 18 years old. So that's why they're that's why he's geared towards him
That's why he's tickling them
Yeah
That's so there was just weird we're gonna get demonetized all kinds of weird Trumpy stuff going on
Continue and then this was actually my favorite thing and I have two photos of it
This is the up close, but the next photo is to zoom out. This is a full-size
A coffee table or it could be like a kitchen island table
And it's an etch a sketch
With you have two knobs and go back to the other photo the two knobs drag around this little digger
That just moves dirt and it's just a joyous little thing. It was $2,500 and I almost bought it. It's pretty cool. That's like this is um
Like artisanal, uh
Like rc car
Even yeah, I wonder what's what i'm looking for. Um
A mechanical. Yeah, it's just mechanical. It's like you move the ball and the ball pushes the little thing
The digger drags behind the ball. Oh, it's attached to it's attached to the ball
And and so when you move the ball it it sort of toes the digger like a trailer
But the digger then pushes dirt around dude. That's very meditative. It's like a zen garden
But for like, you know, yeah, but you know, but if you uh trade car heart
I really I me and me and musto sat there playing with this for 15 minutes
We really liked this if you had known you needed a room that this needed to live in and then you'd have bought it
Like it I think yeah, I don't uh, I don't have this I don't think it would work in my house
It'd be right, uh, but it it it's fun if you had a hunting lodge
I'm serious
If I it's very very fun though. I do I really liked this a lot
Yeah, we we played with this for a solid because see see the the fucking laps around the rocks. That's us. Yeah
That's pretty cool. That's sweet. Yeah
Uh, that's all I took pictures of there was also this guy who made these rhub goldberg devices like where the ball, you know
The red is it rhub goldberg? Yeah
So that rhub goldberg is like a complicated mechanical device to complete
What's the thing where like the ball a ball travels like a real crazy route like up the thing and
I don't know if that has a specific name
I know you mean version of a rhub goldberg device, but there were these amazing machines where it was like a roller coaster for
You know pinballs essentially. Yeah
um
These beautifully animated machines they were like five to ten grand, but they fucking rocked
But I got out of there. I did not spend any money except on
the tickets
So that was good
It was it was it was a wild wild thing to see and and from the cars to all this crazy shit
It's uh, it's a thing that if you can make it
Uh a destination in your in your car life. It's worth it at least. Yeah, I'll go. That seems fine. And if you can afford
You know, you don't you don't need a huge budget, but if you can go
And get a bidder's pass and be prepared to like
Throw some bids in on something you might like like it's a pretty fun thing to do
Obviously you have to have some money to do that. Yeah, and like the knowledge of what to ask about what you're buying
Does everybody have printed detailed sheets on like yeah, you got to do that homework
You know, I'm sure you get upkeep maintenance. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that was that was fun
um
Got the manks
Over to phillips to get studded tires put in I saw might we got we were using a bfg winter tire that comes
With pilot holes dillets. Yeah, or did it is that what they're called divots?
I'm calling them. I know you mean. Yeah, but they got like 20 tires over there
This poor this poor dude. Carlos has got to put so many fucking studs in but get this
Uh on the way back from dropping it off. I took a waymo
and I had
the first
Bad waymo ride I've like ever had
Like I've had I've probably taken 50 to 60 waymo rides at this point and they all the cars have driven
The same as if they're the same car. This is the first one. I've ever been in
That drove badly like literally drove badly. Um
So the first thing that happened is and I sent you photos of me wearing my keep going me wearing my uh
My silly jacket
There so here's so so I sit in the front in a waymo
Because you can just recline the seat and more leg room
so
I'm exiting uh
Uh a small side street heading south
And trying to turn left onto olympic boulevard here
In order to turn right onto that traffic light. That's like a hundred yards away. It's a pulvera. Yeah, so a human driver
I don't think would try to do this
But so what this waymo is trying to do here is cross
six lanes of traffic
And then get to a turn lane to make a sorry make a left across six lanes of traffic
To then make a right a hundred yards later
I mean, I've seen people do this, but they are the worst people. Yes
Uh and a good driver would and this is a grid mind you a good driver
Would have just made a right and then turned left at the next light and cut back over at some later
Yeah, double back cut them off at the pass right and so especially because we're talking about
Sepulveda and sautel they run parallel. Yeah, so so anyway, it tries to do this and I've taken a picture because
There isn't room the light doesn't change
So now I am sitting broadside as a fucking gardening truck is driving straight at my door
It really is like straight 90 degrees. It's driving right at my door. Uh, and so I'm now sitting there
And fortunately this gardening truck, you know understands that it's a driverless car
So there's like no one to like honk at
But I'm sitting there like
You know, what do like I'm an asshole. What do I I'm just sitting here and and
That's when I first took the photo I then sent you a video
And I'm not sure how good the video is and I don't think you need to play it with sound
Okay, but I think I just show
What is going on because now
Traffic is just going and I'm just sitting here
Just about to get keyed up by this fucking van
That's now stuck here. Look at this. I look at the traffic. My waymo is just blocked two lanes now out of three
So a human a human driver would pull into that left only lane
Yeah, like figure it out from there. Yeah, just get out of the way like there's there is an opening if you made a harder left
It's like a left turn lane instead of you want to go right, but you'd be out of the way
But right now you're blocking. Yeah, two out of three lanes of traffic. You got a big utility fan who's mad
So it's doing that. So that's what happens first, right?
And after eventually blocking traffic, it does start to to move now
That could have been hugely problematic
Obviously, but uh, so that was the first one then I pull up to a red light and look it stops
Uh, two and a half car lengths back from the red light from for some reason does not move up to the front row
It's weird, which is not a huge problem in and of itself
But after what it just did I felt it necessary to take this picture because I thought that was odd
And then go to the go to the next one
So here I'm zoomed in zooming in on the the blinkers start to go fucking
batshit
So I filmed this
So play this in in real time and look at the pace
Of the blinker. Look what's this blinker is going to take take take take
See it doing like like a weird it's it's just doing like going haywire. It's like it's doing
It's morse code and it's trying to talk to other cars. We're all about to be in big trouble
This is how it happens. So meanwhile it it did this while being like kind of bad at
Picking lane placements for where it wanted to be
um, so I was really really
I mean look nothing terrible happened. I didn't like run over a child like just fucking happened
Uh, that's not I don't want to accuse run over a waymo hit a kid really yesterday. Yeah. Oh, yeah
I think it was one of those situations where it was like a kid ran out into the street and the waymo
You know did try to stop it just couldn't stop quick enough
I don't think it was necessarily
I don't want to I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I don't think it was necessarily
Like a hundred percent of the waymo's fault like an unexpected thing happened that it just couldn't avoid I think
But either way
On the same day that happened
This ride happened
Well, well waymo says the kid ran into the street from behind a double parked suv
So, uh, yeah, I mean
Or can we believe them? I'm not a hundred percent sure. Yeah, but I'm reading the news on ktla 5
So that's what they said, but we I'm sure they'll be footage and whatever. Yeah, yeah
The kid was okay. It should be said. Yeah, kids stood up and went to the sidewalk. Okay. Well, that's good
So anyway on the same day that that happened
coincidentally
My the waymo I was in was acting fucking weird as hell and I had never
Never, uh, I've never been in one that drove like this
So I don't know maybe there was a software update
Maybe this one was like bugging out for some reason and I realized there there was not a way
For me to accurately describe to somebody using the waymo app and they're like customer service like had a problem
Using their like decision tree thing. There was not a way to accurately describe what was happening. There's no notes section
Not really. Oh, okay. Yeah
So anyway, that was that's weird that was a thing
But we're all part of the beta we're getting studded ass tires
It's which is very exciting pre-drilled tires are called studdable
That makes sense. Yeah, that's makes sense. That's also like
That's like me. I'm studdable, but I'm not there yet
Just have potential. Yeah, exactly. Yeah
uh
I had to get weighed and granted different scale
Like normally I weigh myself at santo scale
But I went to my physical and I was on their scale
So one could expect a small difference in the dino article the dino article like small difference
And I weighed two pounds over what I weighed like a month ago and I was like went into a deep depression
Number should go down. Yeah, but I know December and Hannah was like
Hannah was like, you know that 247 is the same as 245, right? That's not water salt
I know what time of the day. Did you get weighed for at this physical in the morning? It was morning?
Okay. Yeah, and I fast and I fasted too. It was optimal optimum conditions. I mean, we talked about december
We both ate more snackies. They were
In january
Jan December I did good over the holidays january was where I had my I had my holidays in january when I went
To south carolina and then I went to miami. That was my holidays
In january when I saw my parents that my parents always have lots of healthy bad food around
And and I went oh a tub of biscotti. Well, I don't have these very often at home. Yeah, so I'll eat three per day
Yeah
It's in south carolina. It's those peanut butter filled pretzel nuggets
If I if I die of a heart attack, it's because somebody left
A kilogram of those
My house you washed up in the ocean
But there's gonna there'll be like
Like that would be the perfect crime like if you wanted to like assassinate
All you have to do is leave the giant remember like the buckets of popcorn that peanut butter pretzel just send it to me for Christmas
I'll be dead by valentine's day. It's like a very kramer type of assassination
They're desiccates doesn't seem to as foul play. You got an awful lot of treats this year. I don't
Uh, should we talk about the sim? Uh, yeah, is that interesting to talk about? I think so
So our buddy our two friends and two friends and one of my storage clients here at w ccs
Which is continuing to pay off in interesting ways my our friend mike harley was a former car journalist
Our friend justin bell who's a racing commentator and a race car driver
And my friend charlie xp one not xr one. It's xp one
Have come up with
Not come up with I guess there's a person who's come up with the tech, but they've shown us this new
Simulator program racing simulator program
Called xp one that launches in like a week
That uses an entirely new
force feedback and physics engine compared to any other racing simulator
That is on the market today or before and the idea is
To deliver a vastly more realistic driving experience
Compared to other racing simulators, which in my opinion do not deliver realistic driving experience. Yeah, I agree. I hate them
so
um, it apparently works with
Any pc-based racing simulator, right basically any pc basically any pc and any wheel
I think right what they're saying. Yeah, they're like the it's not a new type of drive wheel
Right, it's not not a new type of pedals. You can use basically any pedals
it's software and
It's it's it's sort of
It's okay. How did he describe it? He described it as all other racing sim software in the past uses tables
to deliver
Driving sensations based on what they think a car would happen at this particular
amount of force or load or
Speed or heat, right? And this one
doesn't do that
it
Learns based on how
People are driving on it
In order to deliver a much more car-like experience
The I'll say like the pitch was quick
We went there today and they they talked fast and then we hopped in the in the driver's seat. So
Like the methods behind
How the game works like I don't want to comment on too much because I don't understand enough of how existing games work
um
Like what I took away from it is that the driving instantly feels way more realistic because
You know, they're cockpit like moves while you're driving as if your head was moving
And and they modeled it. They said, you know, we they modeled it after like a 13 pound head with a helmet on
So when you hit the brakes when you turn left right accelerate your field of view changes very slightly
But it is so
Accurate I think to how your head would move. There's no latency like you hit the brakes then the plane thing moves
You turn left then the head moves, you know, that would that would be like bad vr
This felt so natural. I thought it communicated speed
And g-load really really well and then when you couple that with the force feedback, I think felt really accurate
I felt I could feel
Uh, the back stepping out and loss of grip. I think better than any other force feedback thing
I've driven. Um, and this was without this didn't have a four motion seat
This didn't have any of the like electronic actuator stuff that was moving that around. This was a fixed seat
Fix pedals and a wheel
But that was my takeaway. My takeaway was that the steering feel
Was like way way way better
Um, and if you got like
Oversteer in i-racing or asetto, it's like unrecoverable. Yeah in a lot of ways and it was much more recoverable in this
I thought the weight transfer was a lot better and more natural feeling in this. Yep
Um
So the thing with this game is it's called xp one
Is right now there is only one track and there is only one car
And and it should be said that's because they
Like they built the whole like the physics engine behind it themselves
And then they built the car themselves also. So they didn't they didn't download
A car from you know, I don't know other games or other sources that supply games
They were like, let's make this thing as a proof of concept. Yeah. Well and the limiting factor is you
If you're spending money and resources licensing cars, you're not spending money on the the actual accuracy of the
driver to video game engagement and also
They said they basically had to build
um
They had to do everything totally from scratch in order to make this system work
Like you couldn't import
Uh physics models from from different oems. Oh, right like michael told us
You know if you hit curbs too hard in the car they built like
It will start to bend the wheels or it will start to bend control arms and like that will come back in how the car performs
But existing models didn't have that kind of stuff like they have
I haven't played enough recent sims like I've played ones where there's damage, but it will just show like
Flat tire engine damage
Wing damage, so you've lost your arrow the engine's weaker or like it pulls it one direction or another
So I don't know how detailed some of the other games get but I was just really impressed with how it felt
And this is this is like an alpha launch
So like I don't you don't play video games
But nowadays like you can download a game before it's quote done
You can pay for it and it's called beta and sometimes the game is amazing and you
And it could by all means seem like it's finished game
But they will keep developing it but they can get the money earlier to fund the development
So this is like they made one track. They made one car
Their their early investment seems like it's pretty small
And then you know, they're going to launch it for free you download it
You can play it for an hour and then you can decide if you want to pay for it or not
And then you can take that money and put it into development licensing cars, etc, etc
it was I mean I
I feel that if I really wanted I mean
Unfortunately, they don't have like every track and and they don't um even if even with it was just this car
You know with this one track
um
You can tell that the physics engine
Is much much much more realistic to an actual car and like harley said like
Like you can be good at racing sims and like not be good at driving cars
Like it does apply like if you are good at racing sims, it will help you be good at driving cars
But it's not a given. Uh, they are different things
um
Like you could be good at like guitar hero and guitar, but being good at one will not make you good at the other
I thought I would be good at guitar hero because I knew how to play guitar and I was like, oh, this is like not actually playing guitar
It's like vaguely similar, but it's not
And it's like the same kind of thing this is an actual
game that in my fucking 20 minutes, by the way is uh
Will definitely reward you if you're good at driving in real life
It'll it's much more like driving in real life. It really is. Yeah
So the car they made is like a mid-engine gt3 style car with a
Ferrari-esque
500 horsepower v8 and it weighs like 2700 pounds and you know double wishbones and this and that and
Very natural driving dynamics. I would say for 20 minutes easy easy to get used to
um
And the track is nice. Um, and it's not that hard to learn
Um, and and it does have, you know, all different types of corners. So that's good
It'll be interesting to see as they add tracks and add add stuff, but I just
For me it was like, oh, this is this is actually the kind of
Give and take I'm looking for for a video game that replicates driving. It actually replicates like driving
You were genuinely curious after driving it
Like I've never seen you get out of a sim and go
So what are these costs? Like yeah, how do you where could you put this thing? Like you you had a good time driving it because I think it
Like you said it it felt it it helped you represent better how you can actually drive because it actually talks to you a little bit
Yeah, because like my problem with
Racing sim like when I'm trying to use raising sims to like learn a track
I like we talked about a couple months ago
I will have crashes
That will never happen in a car
Like why like why would that like it's because the game and the car aren't the same like there's like
It took me two hours to get to the time I wanted in a racing sim even a nice one
Versus six laps around the actual track in an actual car like that's a pretty big discrepancy
Um, maybe it's just because I don't play enough racing sims
I'm not good enough at them
But like if I drive this much like why should this not reflect?
A decent amount of skill in that like why should I be so terrible at that?
So anyway, this is much more like if you can drive a car
Well, you can get in this and you're like why why am I crashing here like you're you're not actually you're so that's good
Um, and they're doing a drift thing which is going to be really fun because drifting in
Drifting in video games is not good
This could be this could potentially be like actually good drifting. I just think with sims you have to like relearn how to
Interpret the visual data to tell your hands and feet what to do
So even if
You know if you start sliding in in a drift car in like a setto and it's set up like a court or friend quarry's house
If the controllers are set up well and all the parameters are set up well
The things you would do in a normal car will work in the sim and vice versa
But it's the data that you're getting to your eyes telling you what to do when to do it
That can be like clunky and you have to learn
Almost how like read braille
You have to learn how to read what the screen is showing you and what that means for the car
Like you might not think you have a lot of angle on the car, but you actually have
You know 72 degrees already of yaw and I don't this just seemed like it talked to me more like um
cxc's trophy truck thing which was this
Giant cage mount. I remember that huge electronic actually. They just sold one on burberry trailer. Did it?
What did it go? I don't know if we should find out right now. They were building one to put on a cruise ship and they built another one
That was that was the dopest driving simulator. I've ever been the thing would move up and down like two feet from the back left and right
It was there was rad
But this the way this your head moved in there. I thought
It got you a good part of the way over, you know, it didn't give you all the movement that was very exciting
But in terms of telling me
Because the big thing with the trophy truck was
Knowing it's sliding right in a dirt track
You need to know that it's pitching forward when you break and then that it's sliding
Yeah, and it made it really easy to drift and catch and I think this stuff made jumping feel
It made it pretty accurately
Jumping too, which was pretty sweet if I had all the money. I'd have one of those in my house for sure
Dude, I can't believe that thing. It's so no
It was bid too. I think it's a no sale. It was bid to 60 grand. Yeah, you know how much this thing
I think it was a million. I think it was a million dollars
Holy depreciation that man make offer
No kidding. Oh my god
Oh, wow, there's a lot of cxc sims. Um on bringture. I had no idea. Yeah. Oh, cool. What are they?
Do they sell for would you have sold some sold prices? Yeah, I'll pull it up. These are
Do they bargain appreciate like crazy? It's like a my buck. Oh, wow. Okay
Sold for 24 k motion pro 2 sim in back in june 23 20. Okay, so they sell for 20 to 25 k used
Oh, wow that one sold for 45 k earlier this year
Well, oh, wow. All right. Well, they I mean you can get one there. They're like, you know, half to three-quarter price
Yeah, these are these things are rad, but
That's pretty cool. A lot of money. I guess it matters. Maybe what year you get, but maybe oh the cart sim is interesting. Look at that
23k
That's no suspension. Oh, it's got little
There's a fans that just blow you in the face. So that is yeah
So you get used to it. Is that I mean, I've gotten sweaty playing these things at cxc before you just put on vr goggles and have fans
Just blast you want to get used to it
Dodge wrench you can dodge a ball. That's what this feels like
It's kind of a good time
You think if you're training like, you know with your dad and he throws sand in it in case someone goes off in front of you
Just so you're ready. You know, it curls a tire itchy. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna throw a child at you now
Just in case that's pretty cool. All right, cool
um
big news
I
therefore we
Are now members of the singer club at willow springs. Let's go
We have a racetrack membership zack
What are we gonna do with it?
Everything but aren't we going to do with it? Yeah, we're gonna film there. We're gonna practice there. We're gonna go drifting there
Yeah, it is time to drift again there. Yes. It is time that we
Possibly consider a dorifto mobile. Yeah. Yeah
The best. Yeah, who do we know in palm deal we could just store a car
We're about we're about to get a trailer
We're gonna get a trailer for avatars. We are right. I'll buy the missile car if you buy the race
Someone said you see a text by the truck you buy the fucking drift car. Sure
We need to talk budget. We need to talk budget. Yeah
Um, do you see the race car I sent you that?
Oh, yeah, that's like a that's like a spec racer. That's like I'm not that interested personally in a race car
Like I don't like I'm I like racing
I like renting seats in ray. I don't want to own a race car, but a drift car
seems like
Because because with a race car like we we're gonna get press cars
So we'll get to like go to the track in press cars. We'll get to try different stuff like well
This was inspired by a fan sent this but it was inspired by you're talking about the sierra cars
You know, we can get something that's not street legal
Yeah, like this
But if you've come full circle to drift car, I have so many flat brim hats to share with you
Well, because a sierra car you could use like on dirt you can use it
There's a lot of different things you could do with that true
Like different tires is a different entirely different experience
Sierra car one of you could complete the hill climb like up in the back of willow like they have a trail
But if you just went fast
You probably know they're building you know, they're building trails
They're building like rally slash
Off-road e-trails back there sierra car
Could be cool for that. Mm-hmm. So anyway, but that's that's fun. That'll be that'll be superb
Yes, man, that's like I literally signed the contract and shit like let's fucking go. Wow. Yeah
And speaking of let's fucking go wait the other photos of the benzito is a go
This is I just walked here. I didn't need to try and he dropped me off. I was gonna walk
I don't even know why he said that he was I was gonna walk
But uh, it's not far it's right around the corner
And I dropped off the e3 20 with shunt and we have a plan
So to convert this car to an e500
It's not really going to be a 500 exactly because we're not going to do the four cam engine
It doesn't get us anything
That's like a high revvy. It doesn't get you that much more power, right?
When I did that story for or the video for cars and bids like the four cam versus a built two cam
It's really close. So instead what you do is you get the
1999 to 2002 e55 engine the 5.5 liter single cam
350 horsepower five speed automatic
So we have to buy a donor car which he says we can do there around full powertrain swap
Um, he said you leave the e3 20s rear end because we want the highway gears. You don't want the
The e55 gears for some reason you want the gears that are in this
um, we then get
Uh, the the the e500 suspension setup, which is bilstein damper and an h and r shock
Um, the the our control arms and stuff are the same
We do sl 600 brakes
um
We do, uh, the e500
Front and rear bumpers are oem parts
We have to make e500 front and rear fenders
But shunt says like absolutely no problem at all
the rocker panel, um
We don't use the oem e500 we use
It's not it's one of the it's not schnitzer
But it's like one of the year one of the euro tuner ones has a panel
For the convertible that makes it look like the
sedan on the 500 because otherwise you have to cut the sedan one and like it doesn't look right
And then we get rid of the chrome
We swap all the trim to the 500 trim
um
We're gonna do those recaro euro front seats those cool recaro ones that everybody uses
crazy fabric
Uh on leather, but also with the crazy fabric
We're gonna, uh, delete all the wood and make it all brushed aluminum
Uh, we get h we get air conditioning and cruise control from the e55 full a full wiring harness swap
Uh, the headlights and tail lights are the same we can restore those
And we the dash is actually really good
Um, the steering wheel we're gonna keep but we're gonna recover
Yeah, uh, the top actually is in great shape. We're gonna service the hydraulics
But the we're gonna keep the top fabric. That's fantastic. It's not that old
It's only like five years old the top fabric the top glass is good
The side glass is good
Um, we're just noticing the number of check engine lights you have on the dash
There's only two one is check engine and one is low washer fluid two out of how many possible, you know, okay
I but I drove it from south bay to him today. It's like fine
I mean it like it burned a little oil like a little oil. We're taking the engine out. Yeah, it made it like it was it's and shunt was like
This is this
It's only 60,000 miles. I was like, yeah, he's like I cannot like he could not believe his luck
He looked all over it. No rust. He's like this is
The most perfect and it's already red cool. Uh, the red we're gonna repaint the whole thing red, but it's the right red
um
I gotta I really need to look really hard in figuring out
What are interior trim for the doors?
The set like like your car the door cards the seat centers
I'm gonna do the a pillar probably
Because it's only the a pillar. What are you gonna do the a pillar in?
I don't know. Okay, and it may be a cool pattern. Oh, I thought you based on your smile
I thought you had a special idea. No, no, no. I mean it'll be whatever, you know, we got to find a cool a cool cloth
Um, hre is gonna make us the wheels that um look like the mono block wheels cool
But their hre is this is gonna be a cool cruiser. Yeah, so this is gonna be nice
There's like the it's really actually funny like the things that we
Need to keep are like really good and the things we're throwing away are old and tired
We have to do bushings because all the bushings are but like whatever while we're in there fucking all the would do it all
Of course, so you're taking the whole drivetrain out and like yeah do all the bushings
Uh, you're kind of so excited. It's cool. It's like what you learned from the Bentley project
Like what's good about cruising and what do you want? And this is like taylor made for that
It's gonna be a really nice balance between like, you know quick, you know 350 horsepower is not nothing good torque
But with a five speed auto and a convertible top and like an exhaust dumps
electronically actuated
Yeah
Yeah, nice stealthy sound the only thing I don't like about the e500 is a single exit exhaust
Which I is not my favorite, but but the dual looks I want a stock look
Well, what's it? What do you have?
It's a it's an ugly single exhaust now, but the stock e500 is the dual ovals
Yeah, but it's just a dual. It's not two two. Yeah, it's just that. Yeah, I think that'll look good. It looks fine
Yeah, what do you what would you do if you had a dream?
Do like a dual like one a proper dual. Yeah, but you know, whatever. Oh, we have to have
Headers made
Like we have to have exhaust manifolds made oh for fitment to to fit the v8 into there
Yeah, they're asked so I don't whatever
For every single thing is like no problem. I got a guy you could probably route a dual exhaust like I don't want it
I don't want it to look like a tuner car
I want it to look exactly like an e500 on the outside like just like it should look like Mercedes built it like
We're on the same page with that one other than the crazy fabric and
Hre's not not stock oem Mercedes wheels. It's going to look
Exactly like it like an e500 that Mercedes built
Okay, I'm looking I'm super stoked on this as a project for this year. This is going to be fucking
Awesome to roll around. This is an angry. It's like the angry minks project. Oh, here we go. Okay
Well, it's just going to be such a cool cruiser
You kind of have to have some match luggage made for it, right?
Like some fitted ass
cool luggage
I mean maybe some like I would say because it has such a big trunk. I mean do whatever you want like your money, but
Um, you know, that's you could have a cool attache case that lives on the back seat. True. That's the e500 exhaust
Yeah, it's just a single boy. Yeah
It is what it is
Yeah, they switched to dual in 2000. It does look better, but a while. Yeah. Yes, you know
Still it's going to be hard as fuck though. It's going to look so rad
I'm stoked
That's going to be I don't know. I wonder if you can have it done in time for dream cruise
If he does maybe we take our trailer fucking take that shit to dream crew taking to you to do. It takes four days to try to
Four days to trailer or Mercedes to Detroit that uh waste the time that would be that's funny
No, we would ship it to poppin. Nino's. They might not like it there. I don't know. I question
I think they would oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, they they're it's not just american cars
I mean, it's a lot of american cars at dream cruise, but it's not just american cars
I sell some really awesome stuff rolling around. Yeah, yeah
Uh, do you want to talk about kill switch before we go to the people? We can do it because it's quick
Like this is not a big thing. We also don't have to do full length questions today. We can kick questions the next one
It's okay. So, you know the big story. I guess this is actually two days old
But uh, the kill switch bill went forward through congress
um, and this had everybody stirred up
still does because
Everyone thinks that the government's been able to turn off your car at any moment. Um, and so kelly blue look did a good article kind of
calming everybody down and
The basic thing is that
congress wants car companies to use existing systems
Or develop a new kind of system to basically monitor drivers and determine when they are
inebriated and in that case the car needs to do something like turnoff
uh, the reason that kbb is trying to say everybody calm down is because
The way the bill is written, uh
It wants a passively detect alcohol blood alcohol level equal to and exceeding the limit
um, so that means passive means they can't install a breathalyzer so
congress is saying
Hey, nitsa has to write the rule the regulation coffee cup that comes up and says you seem tired pull over
It's like that it it'll be something like that
But congress basically made the bill you seem wasted and then nitsa needs to write the like requirements
And then hand those requirements to automakers. There's a lot of steps left
Their goal is to use existing
Tech in there to like monitor and determine someone's inebriated
I'm sure they can I also bet this will be very clunky for a long time
Oh, yeah, if someone imagine if you're just driving and like, you know, you lean on on your
Window sill for too long and you're awake and looking
So, I mean is it going to track your body movement your eyes both? Yeah, well the number of times
I've had the pop-up window come up that says you're tired. You look tired or even driving 20 minutes
Yeah, like whatever like bro. Fuck out of here. So they're gonna have to be
You know super buttoned up with this kind of stuff because if people especially if
If the kill switch term goes forward or or that's what they want where the car would turn itself off or like pull over to the
side of the road
I mean you can't have that just happening when someone's driving to work because their body position is different or they're staring
You know straight ahead for too long but not moving their eyes because they're zoned out
I don't know that these are all the things. I mean, it's silly
Yeah, but these are all the things that the car companies and nits. I have to figure out
How to account for this goes to like the autonomous car thing
Can you plan for every single variable while trying to complete one objective?
You know despite all those variables. Yeah, so
Uh, there's gonna be a lot of time between now and when this might get rolled out, but that is
what it's going to be
but
Okay, so the law the the law creates a kill switch
Would let a car deactivate itself if the system determined that the driver was likely impaired
It does not create a kill switch that anyone outside of the vehicle could control
Some private privacy advocates worry that any shutdown technology could eventually
Allow remote control as today's cars increasingly can use to communicate with external servers as they drive
To date those servers belong to the automakers
um
Yeah, I think that's going to be clunky and shitty
But um, I think there are probably
There's I mean, I maybe not if you've had if you're wasted
I bet people move
Their eyes and or their heads in somewhat predictable ways very possible. Yeah, you know, yeah
Um, well that should hold up in court or anything like that. Like, you know, what happens, right if you
like
Will it like
Say, you know, you have 30 seconds to pull over and the vehicle is going to shut down
Will it say
That you know hope well, I couldn't be watching you long enough if you just start it and try to drive it couldn't be like
Oh, hold on, right? So it has to be watching you drive and then make some determination that actually you can't be driving
Yeah, and if you're wandering in the lane a lot
Uh, it'll that's probably the easiest thing for it to notice, you know, if it has to keep pinging you back
Like bumper bowling. Yeah, um, but then what will it do?
But it's the more nuanced stuff if people are you know, there's so many different ways someone could drunk drive
And and like I've seen people that have driven at night in Los Angeles or in the daytime
Honestly, like where their speed and the way they're driving their car and the proximity that gets other cars
You go that person's either mad 22 years old or wasted or something and sometimes they're one of those things
But how will it be able to determine?
this a person a is
Drunk versus person a is an idiot person is late for work all those things for sure a lot of uh
I don't know they have a lot of work to do sure
All right, let's go to the people and we'll start with of course over at patreon.com slash the smoke tire podcast
But let's start off with zaks broke ass hair transplant surgeon. He's not broke. He's quite rich
Why don't more manufacturers see the long-term value in protecting the lineage of a car
It's design dna its identity the way Porsche has with the 9 11
Well, the 9 11's like engine being in the wrong place defines its shape and its lineage like
You could argue like a lot of people I mean Corvettes
Ascent effectively did that until they had to make a change going from front to mid-engine
They've probably protected it
I think they've done the best job out of any front engine car
Maybe I mean BMW maybe but
um
Because this person's point with some companies will like bring back the Supra kill the super bring it back
It looks totally different and kill it and whereas the 9 11
Seems more I think the fact that they've been building it consistently means the design
The changes are much more subtle. Whereas if you take a I don't know a six-year break from a car and then bring it back
Well, suddenly
manufacturing technologies changed
design
Trends have changed a lot. So it seems like it makes a big leap. What always helped though is that
It
9 11's have always been competitive
They've always been like less power than the other cars. They were competing against
But like less weight and less and and equally competitive if not more competitive like that whole time
Even when they were building like old cars in like the 80s like the c4 corvette versus like the 1985
9 11 the 9 11's like ancient, but it's still competitive
The 964 like old still competitive like
that
Uh, I don't know if you can just like do that with
um
Any other car, uh, I would say certainly the Mustang
You know beginning again in like 2005 the sort of modern era of Mustang where it looks
Like the Mustangs in the late 60s looked they've learned, you know, they probably
Maybe arguably should have been doing that the whole time even though I like the Fox bodies and stuff, you know
But you kind of need your product to be good enough that it needs successive generations
without
Breaking it up if you break it up
Then you're like, uh, well that car's dead. But like later I'm doing a new car and
Oh, it's vaguely the same and we already own that name
People remember it we could get some hype out of launching this thing, you know
There's also merit that Porsche was a private company until what a year ago two years ago
So maybe if they had more control over their designs, whereas, you know
I don't know other companies were publicly traded and they just if something wasn't going well
They bring a new committee new board and they go well, let's change the design because that's what's not working
And Porsche could go no like here's how we're doing it. Just tweak it a little bit. I don't know
Uh, this one's fun. I blow horns
Favorite tuner engine
For the standard cylinder counts. So your favorite four cylinder six cylinder eight ten and twelve from tuners
Kind of interesting. So favorite four cylinder
was that
That Honda engine
That was built by that dude on the east side of la. I think his name was Emmanuel
That was like a Honda engine that na that revved to like 9 000 with like crazy high compression
big power engine
That was a sick Honda engine high revving Honda like that the next powers is rad
Six cylinder favorite six cylinder engine
My I mean my demand engine is pretty fucking spicy. I I dare you to find a better six cylinder engine than that
Yeah, I'll agree with that because yours has like big engine sound, but then it's got a more
It's different six something really meaty. Yeah, I'd go with that. Yeah
Eight favorite eight cylinder Judd
Well, Judd's are usually the 10 Judd v 10 is really where it's at
favorite v8 about the dine in
4.6 liter stoker
Uh s 62 the the e 90 m3
Stoker engine. Well, you drove that in like an m1 or 1m, right?
Yeah, okay. I wasn't there that day. I think I probably would choose that though. That was mental small high revving v8s are very good
But shout out to the Audi 4.2 with a supercharger on it. However, I'm going to save that for the 10
Because I think throwing the um the vf supercharger on like a little bit 10 is rad. That's pretty that's where it's at
For for a 10 you're going to go viper with uh twin turbo
Calvo viper. Yeah, 2000 horsepower calvo viper. Yeah, that's uh, that's scary. We'll take that
um
12 cylinder tuner 12 cylinders
Brabis rocket
Yep, I can still see the video. I might have that was one of the coolest things in the world
12-cylinder in an e-class. Yeah
I should have asked shunt if my car will fit the v12
No, just go v8. You get to get the sound. Yeah, that's true
Uh, that's a fun one is the v12 like far more complicated less reliable
All those things
Yeah, right
keel and toe, uh, do you think automakers aren't taking risk with new products anymore?
Fun pro projects like the ssr the prowler the viper bmw z8 and z1 don't seem as common anymore
well
Well original viper, I think there's enough original sports cars still coming out z8 and z1 are
I agree because they're just making fewer coupes. We know that like that
We've talked about the 90s. There were dozens of coupes
Kind of peaked like late 90s in the 2000s z the z8 was like this amazing just design exercise. Oh my god, they're stunning
I mean bmw does still make they make the z4 still. I mean it's they I don't think there was room for bmw to make two
Roadsters at the same time, you know doing the z3 and the z8 at the same time. I don't think there's room for that
I agree, but um
I mean look the ssr the prowler the viper this is like bob lutz shit like this is like the 90s
That's like when cars were like cartoons. Well, and that was also
Looking at looking at the market then it was kind of boomers now
And they have money they grew up around hot rods. How do we make hot rods new again?
You make it now those people are kind of aging out
So they ought to make what our generation wants to make and they're making rally cars and they're making stuff
You know, I think the the g.r. Corolla. I mean granted it's to kind of reflect their rally program, but that's a pretty exciting thing
Um, I mean some some automakers are taking risks. I mean
Porsche doing the Dakar is a production car. That's a wrist lamborghini selling the sterato. That's a bigger risk. That's a risk
You know, I suppose an escalade v is a silly thing that probably shouldn't have really sold well
I think the difference with those though is they're all based on existing product. Whereas like the prowler was
crazy and weird and I think
Car companies now are taking more risks with the high dollar cars because they know they can sell them as collectibles
And so there's there's less really wild stuff out there for you know, people buying 40 to 60 thousand dollar cars
That's true
They don't need to build a wild 60 thousand dollar car because they can build something that's three million dollars and sell 50 of them
And and that's how they and then it's not a risk
Then they can show the model and the renderings to people and they'll go. Yes. I'll take that
And you know, they get them locked up and then they build them later. They know they're sold. Yeah, so
That's I mean that is a good reason
That income inequality is hurting car culture because automakers are not taking risks on mass market products because they can do it
Write that down
Thank you very much for that
No risk on
Okay
Thank you for that one, uh that black scuderia says
Oh
I
Saw some I don't well. I don't want to even talk about that. I saw
Let's just go to the question in your opinion has the build quality of Porsche been going up or down in recent years
I I honestly don't know because I don't have much exposure to them after they are more than 2000 miles old
I have not seen a change in what I perceive as quality in Porsche
Uh
in the last
10 years
Since like the 991
Like a 991 and a 992
Are built to approximately the same same standard of quality in my opinion
Literal build how how tight things fit the materials there. That's the same in those cars to me
Marco if you're listening
text me
David Hasselhoff meister kink shame. That's a great absolutely exceptional
Best and worst piece of swag you've ever gotten from a press launch
The worst piece of swag is just a magazine about the car you've just driven
And it's really like a sales brochure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I've gotten stuff that was so expensive
I gave it back like I've gotten ipads
Someone gave me an ipad and I was like that's that's ridiculous. Absolutely not. We've gotten
Helmets
Um, oh, yeah, I got helmet from the Hoosier helmet
Jackets
Sometimes I got offered a jacket and it wasn't hey where this it's very cold where you're going. It was like
Where this somewhere else? Yeah, it's like here as a parting gift and I gave it back to them
Yeah, no, I will sometimes I'll I'll turn down a lot of swag
Uh, I got a nice pair of headphones once
Uh
But uh, usually if it's like really if it's something very expensive, I will definitely not keep it
Uh maxima decimus meridius says
Why do you think the new zr1 will depreciate? Didn't the previous generation go up in value?
Uh, the c7 zr1 is the last front engine corvette
Is the last manual transmission corvette
And up until the current zr1 was the highest horsepower corvette ever
Um, that's why it's it the the curve of the new zr1 will mimic the current z06
It will not mimic the old zr1
The the week I called that from the fucking press launch that I said this car is terrifyingly fast
You cannot see anything out of it because the fucking hood comes up so high
It wants to rip its own fucking rims out of the tires
It's scary as shit and it it fucking makes the last of something and it's the last manual
Manual corvette. I said this is an instant buy and hold. Yeah instant all the signs were there
From the press launch and I think obviously the difference here is the zr1's amazing right now
But right now it's the first zr1 of the first mid-engine corvette packaging. So where will we go from here?
Faster better etc more. They've already put out a faster one right zr1x is already one year later
Yeah, the current the zr1 we drove for p. Cody has the old interior in it
It doesn't have the wall still yeah, it's a 25 not a 26
So like why would this current zr1 not fucking depreciate?
It has none of the elements that the c7 zr1 had that specifically put it in the buy and hold category
Right along a viper acr
Viper acr same same exact thing if you had to add an allocation
For acr as a matter of fact
Any final year or final two-year viper a ta or an acr would have been a fabulous buy and hold because that was it
so
Um, but the z that c7 was fucking obvious from day one
Acura nsfx are we going to air water? Where's air water this year? I don't even know where it is
um
Let's see. Can you while you're looking can you scroll down?
Yeah, it comes back to Costa Mesa in april. Oh, yeah, I'm sure I will go
I don't have something new to put on display, but I'm uh
Maybe the manx actually
If there's a manx display there might then they'll probably end up putting the manx there
I imagine they'll want to display it. I guess it'll be a Porsche powered manx, right?
I don't know
I think
last year there was
One there was philips manx, but I think they also had a regular
Another manx, okay
Uh puff the magic dracon. This guy owns a dracon actually
Uh looking for a sports car more daily drivable than the dracon. I drove a 2016 gt3 rs and I loved it
Um, I would have pulled the trigger, but I actually like a convertible
I wrote in a spider rs and hated the sound
Boxster gts 4.0 was fine. Should the z06 convertible be a contender? Will I miss it not being a Porsche?
Okay, interesting
I think
Two things one you could get a 911 gts or turbo cabriolet
And that would be really fucking nice or a target gts, which would be really fucking nice
so
Those are those are good. Um
Z06 convertible is fabulous
Um, will you miss it not being a Porsche?
I think it provides an excellent driving experience that doesn't need to be a Porsche in order to be an excellent driving
Yeah, is this the car he's driving around right now like a dracon spider. Yeah
So I think the corvette will still feel like a huge step up in luxury quality, etc
Yeah, um, I think the corvette is great fitment and whatever so I think they're really nice cars and the driving experience is fantastic from the z06
They sound amazing. Yeah, they sound incredible
And you don't actually need the convertible because the coupes are also convertibles like don't forget that
The the roofs come off the fucking hard top ones and go in the trunk
So, you know, if you I think the convertibles are cool. I like the power top in those. I like the
Um, the head buttress things like I think it looks nice
But like you can say you you don't necessarily have to get the convertible
But the answer should it be a contender? Yes, you should definitely go try one
um
Uh, I think we just
Oh
Sometimes you're j.d. Vance and sometimes you're the couch thoughts on sim racing cafes
Do you think the growing availability of sim racing cafes have anything to do with the increase in racetrack closures?
As you can get 70 of the experience for fractions of the price
Not a 70 but I wouldn't I would disagree with that
I I've never been to a sim racing cafe
My wife went to one with for a work thing. It was more like a
David Buster's but only with f1 sims. I think what we're seeing is just the
Uh, like video game cafe market moving to where people are so sim racing is popular
And they go, I mean it used to be first person shooter stuff
It's it used to I don't know davin buster's with all those games. So they go, okay people like sim racing
Why not just try and make it a social thing? Yeah, there was the one next to cxc. I don't think it's still there
But it was exactly what it was. It was a bunch of it's like 12 of their simulators
They had some bar food and drinks and stuff and the idea was you'd go down there with your friends and hang out and you'd race each other
So yeah, I I think racing is very expensive
I think developers can make more money using land for other things than then some racetracks in in rural areas and
secondary markets
I don't think there is a substitute for the real thing
Although I do think this technology that they just showed us is promising though. It remains unclear
How this technology could be applied to a more
Like video game like sim where you are driving in
traditional cars from real model makers and traditional tracks and things like that
I'm not it remains unclear how it translates, but like the physics engine is there. I think or closer
and uh
I don't think it's one to one. I don't think it's one to one
I would I'd hang out with my friends at a sim racing cafe
But like I'm never gonna be the one who's like hey guys, let's like go to a down with a sim racing cafe
I think it really depends on where it's located
Like how hard is it to get there because one of the benefits of sim stuff is you can do it from your house
But now like you had to get in the car and drive to this thing and you know
Go see your friends when you could just hop online and talk to them. So that really depends on geolocation. Yeah
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About this episode
Matt and Zach dive into their experiences at the Barrett-Jackson auction, discussing the wild variety of cars and the unique atmosphere of the event. They share insights on the value of classic cars, the quirks of the auction process, and the thrill of spotting hidden gems. The conversation also touches on the latest in automotive technology, including a new racing simulator that promises a more realistic driving experience. Additionally, they explore the implications of a proposed kill switch law for vehicles, debating its potential impact on driver safety and privacy.
Barrett-Jackson auction
Bring a Trailer
coyote swap
fixed seat
force feedback
four cam V8
four wheel steering
Fox body
g-load
kill switch
Acura NSX
Alpina Z8
BMW 3 Series
BMW M3
BMW Z3
BMW Z4
BMW Z8 Roadster (E52)
Cadillac Escalade
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet SSR
Chevrolet Tahoe
Dodge Aries
Ferrari SF90
Ford GT
Ford Mustang
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe Gullwing (W198)
Mercedes-Benz E 500 (W124)
Mercedes-Benz E-Class
Mercedes-Benz SL
Nissan 300 ZX
Nissan Maxima
Plymouth Prowler
Porsche 911
Porsche Boxster
Shelby GT500
Toyota GR Corolla
Toyota Supra
Original notes
Matt Farah describes his first BAD ride in a Waymo; he and Zack Klapman talk about the oddities for sale at Barrett-Jackson auctions; the truth about the "kill switch" law Congress passed; the Mercedes project begins; and Patreon questions include:
- Why has the Porsche 911 maintained a consistent look while others can't?
- Favorite tuner for engines with 4,6,8,10, and 12 cylinders?
- Do automakers still take risks?
- Has Porsche reliability gone down?
- Best and worst swag from a press launch?
- Why we think the C8 Corvette ZR1 will depreciate when the C7 didn't.
- What to get for someone who drives a Drakan?
- Will SIM racing cafes work?
- And more!
Recorded January 29, 2026
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