Nissan, what is going on?

There's a professional radio. There was this front wheel drive

so. Have you got anyone you want to

thank? Just myself.

And now I do the after hours, gentlemen.

What would you go for? They see us in there, OK, And

because it's not a super duck, it's not automatic.

Perfection comes in the form of two letters.

A&U. Long live my Ltd.

Welcome to Carl Talk. It's Susan out here in 98 Point

North and 9198.9 NW FM. It's me, Maddie J online with Mr

Scotty Doe Johnson. Mr. David Prince.

He's just loading up very shortly.

There he is, Mr. David Prince and in studio with Mr Alamdeep

Singh. How are you, gentlemen?

Good. Thank you.

Happy to be here. Doing well.

Thank you very much. Very good, good to see all your

lovely faces. Dad.

David, you were having some technological issues.

Oh yeah, that's just the story of my life.

But it's under control. You're you're, you're, you're

live and clear. You're actually probably the

best camera out of all of us. He looks really crisp.

Yeah. That's what iPhones will do, I

guess. What can I say I.

Mean David, you're you're you're a good looking rooster anyway, so let's just be honest with you and this is just highlights your beauty, you know. Anyway, before the show becomes

more compliments. How are we fellas?

Sorry, I wasn't on last week. I was away on Canberra camp

which was the last minute call up.

It's still not camp, I'm telling you.

It's a good camp. What are the kids staying?

They stay in well, it's like they're not camping, they're actually in cabins. Well, it's but it's it's like in

a big place and. It's is it Bush around them or

is it just it's like. Well, as you would know,

Canberra is the Bush capital. Yeah, it is the Bush capital.

So taking this Bush around us, but we're, we're in a, we're in a big place. That was, it was nice, it was

good. It's a motel, actually.

OK, so you weren't camping? You weren't camping.

Technically it's it's not camping as per say it's it's still. Camping is it?

Does it take the place of camp for schools?

Well, no, because because we also.

Have like a camp. We do.

They want me to go on, on, on. A ski trip.

Let's Let's get back to basics Here they got a.

Surf camp, which they're going to.

That's not. That's not.

Camping, I don't care I. Think they're camping intense?

Oh. Surfing.

When's that one? In building exercises are they

we have to all go through like various holes and like the with.

String. It just sounds like you work at

a private school. Oh please mate I'm I work at a

startup. He works at a high funded.

Government I. Do not thank you very much.

I work at a very underprivileged high school.

I mean when the teachers are driving 3 different cars to school like Mr Maddie J over here, you know, you know it's full girl funded. Yeah David.

Meanwhile, I don't even own a car anymore, Maddie.

What do you mean I literally don't own a car?

Where's the SDI? That's not mine.

There's a company car. Oh.

Jeez. I I use that light every day at

work. I was like, I don't know the

car, this they need to pay me more.

Good luck with that all. Right, Well, it's, it's, you

know, it's interesting because I, I was, I was, I never used to like going on camp when I was in high school and and probably I used to hate camp. I was, I thought it was I

despised that. I was like, this is the worst.

Why am I, why am I on this flying fox?

Why am I on this big thing that people in the air and I said and I fly down like I'm going to die.

Why am I doing? Yeah, whatever the GIANTS

familiar as well. Why am I doing this?

But then I've come to realise that not all camps are that bad.

Canberra camp, for example, I'm very well fed.

It is probably like I've never eaten so much in my life in in those weeks I've been on Canberra camp.

Do you still give the kids water down cordial?

No, we used. To have the water down stuff

like it was like one part cordial on the 999,000 parts of water, like somebody's describing cordial to you as you drink the water. No, Alan, we, we, we give them,

we gave them juice boxes. We gave them milk boxes.

We gave them water, we gave them, you know, soft drink choices. We, we, we, we were very, you

know, hospitable place. And the place we went to was,

was actually lovely. Well, it was, you know, it was

the, the hospitality was great. Met the, the new Governor

General. She was lovely.

Yeah, she was, she was pretty cool.

I got a photo with her. That was pretty special to meet

the most powerful person in Australia.

You tell we're going to be a Republic and her job is going to be going. I mean, I mean, I could have,

but, but yeah, I I got to see her Rolls Royce instead.

So that was, that was pretty nice.

And she's still got the old Caprice in the in the garage too. And I, I asked the guy that I'm

like, yeah, because, because like, she basically just gets driven in and shouldn't drive the rolls anymore to take for special occasions, but she gets driven in all these new 7 Series and, and X fives and stuff. And I'd like to.

I don't think she ever drove herself.

No, that, that, that, that is, that is very much true.

That is very much true. But she she kind of comes from

more humble roots and she's and she seems like she's like a human. You know, I'm not saying that

the other ones were bad, but like she was really down to earth and, you know, she's she didn't really come from like a defence background or anything like that.

So it's it's interesting to see, you know, the different type of personality that you get. But in the garage there was

Nick, you know, in the garage next to the next next to the roller, there was the there was this at the old, the old WM Caprice. And I'm like to the guy does

this does the Caprice that we use.

He's like, yeah, we still take it every so often.

I think he really likes to Caprice the guy that the host that was and I think he's kind of like precious about it because it was like tucked away and all nice and and and then the babies were parked outside. It was it was it was quite

funny. But I yeah, I had a good time,

you know, got to go to as they got to got to meet some some really cool people, got to do some, got to do a lot of fun things. Canberra is, you know, it's

interesting. I don't think it's that.

It's a hell hole for bast people.

It it isn't it actually, it's actually nice man A's lovely, you know, seeing the seeing like was it like barely Gryphon and and you know, all the different things and new parliament House, old Parliament House. It's a cool place.

I I could I could see myself. It's.

Just a. Halfway point.

So you're going to say you could see yourself living there?

Kind of. You have to buy.

It's not much different here these days, but you have to buy an apartment for like $900,000. How much it is there?

Somewhere around there. Cheap.

OK, well I'll scratch that. I'll go move to Adelaide

instead. Radelaide.

Radelaide, man, but no, I, I, I enjoy going to camera.

I think it's, I think it's fun to to see where decisions get made and then to see all the, the contrasting things around it because it's, it's kind of its own, well, I wouldn't say woke, but you know, kind of its own hub and then everything around it's just like, you know, different.

So it is, it is pretty cool. I, I, yeah, I don't mind going

there. And I'd like to go there again.

Like I've got to do some really, some really cool things.

And the kids got to do some role playing of like being senators and being, you know, being, being in the Senate.

And then they all chose me to be, to be the president for, for one of the, the Senate hearings. So that was that was that was

kind of funny. It was, Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, so it was, it was a lot of fun.

It was actually I, I, every time I go there, I learn a lot.

So I I was, I was happy to happy to go.

Are we also joined by Chad? What's happened to my dude?

Hi, guys, I'm good. How are you going?

Good man. Good to see you.

You too. You too.

It's been a little while been it's been, it's been a bit of a minute, but but we always keep in contact on on the on the socials. Let's do some kind of updates.

Let's start with Scotty, though, you were on the 1st.

Let's start with you, my friend. Oh, me first.

Let me think, Let me think. Oh, I serviced the blade.

Toyota Blade put some fresh oil in that what I put in at that Idi Mitsu engine oil. Keeping it JDM.

Yeah, you've got nice and Judium style.

That was pretty darn easy to do. I kept mess to a minimum.

There was nothing underneath the car until I moved the oil pan out of the way and I tripped over it.

Oh no. Yeah, it spilled a good amount.

So yeah, I was so nice and clean because I was doing it in the garage and keeping it all spotless.

And it's like, oh, I didn't even drip any.

Like I'm doing such a great job taking out the philtre and everything. I didn't spill any how cold at

all and you know, then I just move it out of the way and I stepped over to grab to grab something.

We got my foot stuck on it and kicked it and then it splashed around and just went everywhere. So.

Damn it. That was annoying, but while I

was under there, I did find out I need to replace the other CV boot on the other side, on the driver's side.

This time I'm not going to do it.

I'm going to pay someone to do it.

Yeah, you think it was when your last time was going?

Yeah, I'm going to get someone to do that one.

It can wait till the holidays. That's not going to get to the

point where it's going to destroy the drive shaft in just a few weeks, in another month and a bit anyway.

So it should be OK. I'll get them to do that.

Yeah, just at the the inner one, just at the join.

They are just as split. At first I thought it was oil

and I was like no, hang on, that's thick, that's too thick to be engine oil. And then a kind of closer look

and found you. I'm glad it's not engine oil.

So it's fine by me. This will be a cheaper fix.

The R31. I put in a new throttle cable

wasn't overly tricky. I hope I did it kind of

correctly. It's not something I've really

done before, but it seems about right.

And yeah, it's a lot more sensitive.

I would say a lot more sensitive.

So I don't really. Yeah.

It doesn't have that stiff feeling.

And it's that, Yeah, a bit more sensitive with the throttle.

When you're kind of tapping it in, the Revs climb a lot quicker than it did before. If you kind of put your foot

down a bit, the Revs will take a bit and then kind of start to come up with a bit of delay and stuff in it.

But that's all gone. OK, everything ready to put the

gauge in? So I bought a new gauge to put

in, got the adapter we're going to.

Do that next week, sweetie. Yep.

And what else did I do? Probably at the same time, when

I do the gauge, I'll do the fan too, because I saw I have to remove the radiator and I don't want to do that.

On the day that I did the throttle cable, I just looked and it went, Nah, that's just going to make it a mess.

And then I'm going to grab some more coolant and top it up.

And that means I'll have air in the system and I've got to do all that just. Bleed it out again.

Yeah, that just sounded too annoying.

So I was like, no, I'll leave that.

It can be another day. Another day's job.

Yeah, I've got oil and oil philtre, so I'll do a service on the Skyline as well. That one's super easy.

Since there's no turbos or anything in the way.

You can just see the oil philtre there on the side, so that's easy to remove. So I'll do that soon.

Couldn't do it. So I didn't do any car stuff

this this weekend. This was all the previous

weekend, so the weekend just passed.

I'll still plug it away again with soil and chucking it into the backyard again. It's it's trying to work towards

the end goal, which is having project car in garage.

That's the end goal. It starts with soil in backyard.

It'll happen. And then it'll end to 31 in

garage. That's how that's what it'll

eventually get to. That is my updates.

That's yeah, that's what I've done so far.

Lovely David Prince. I was trying to think about this

today because I haven't been on for a couple of weeks.

What's happened in cars? The most memorable thing?

I did a fantastic drive a couple of weekends ago to Marysville over the Black Spur in the N1, which I've been wanting to do for a while since I got it and never quite the stars had in the line, but it did the other day. There was quite a bit of traffic

on the way over, but I thought this is fun.

But on the way back there was no traffic and it was funner.

It was a lot of fun. It was one of those drives where

you think this is really, really good.

I'm going to remember how good this was for a long time.

I had no one in front of me and I don't think I broke any.

I'm sure I didn't set any records for the fastest, but just run over the Black Spur. But Gee, it was fun.

It was fun. You can use the whole Rd with

that car and it's so well sprung and and tied to the road.

It just goes exactly where you're pointed.

And having the manual just transforms it into a such a fun little car, like a little go Kart.

So that was really good. That car's going exceptionally

well. I've had the Civic Grand Prix

out for a while. The 86 AH Civic hatch, which was

a limited edition Grand Prix edition, which came out when cannons Williams. The Honda engines were in the

cannon Williams. I think they were the FW all

elevens, I think from memory and just winning everything.

They they actually started in Honda Australia, released an integra and a groom and and a civic Grand Prix edition and I picked one of those up. Oh, about, I think it's about 10

years ago now and it it's one of those cars, thankfully Touchwood that it can sit for three months and you put the key in the ignition and turn the key in it starts and it's such a sweet little car to drive. So that's been used for a bit of

going to be used in a bit of marketing, I believe in the next couple of weeks coming up to the Grand Prix.

So I had to. That's cool.

Clean that up a bit and do some. Give it a bit of a spruce and a

vacuum and bit of dash dandy on the dash and a bit of bit of tyre loss and that looked $1,000,000.

Again, I did enjoy it. Now I haven't been on.

I did enjoy listening. I really enjoyed the episode We

were talking about getting your first cars and and hear a good old Lorbeck, the Lorbeck story. I didn't know Alan had a Lorbeck

experience, had a Lorbeck experience in Melbourne and the fact that the MR2 that I, I'd forgotten that it was the day you got it. You came to my place and then

and then and then met, met Chad in the afternoon.

I mean, what a? What a day.

Chad, I remember when Chad walked in and he's like, who is the two hours? I'm like, oh, me and we just, we

just started talking like 10 minutes.

It was the funniest thing ever and I'd I'd served you before a few times, Chad, but like, but but this time wasn't the first time we probably had a like I had a proper chat.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's usually, if you're lucky,

that's usually, you know, followed up with I've just packed into it. Yeah, thankfully it wasn't that.

Wasn't the case. I'm I'm very glad you didn't

meet by accident. See what I did there?

I saw what you did it. I mean, it happened to me with

the Fiesta, David. As you, as you're.

Yeah, who owns the green carrots?

I don't know. My heart just sunk.

I was like when? Green car yeah, you know, that's

obviously what you've got to expect.

Sadly, I had they said the green Fiesta St then it would have been a different story. But but yeah, so now that it's

been good I enjoyed listening to that and Scotty talking about the the score lines and the midnight purple.

Wasn't it that colours called? Yeah, purple too.

Yeah, nice, nice. And and there's a few cars,

Scotty, you can file away in the cars I probably should never have got rid of. But you know, what can you do?

Yeah, exactly. You don't know what's going to

happen in the future, but then you think about it.

If you didn't, if you did keep those ones, you would have had the ones that you had afterwards.

Exactly right. That's exactly right.

I completely understand what you're saying.

Yes, I think that's me. I don't think there's much else

to report. No, I found out I do have to do

some work on the Scamp. I've I have discovered.

I don't know if I mentioned that last time I was on I noticed some oil on the floor of it. Did I tell you that?

No. Yeah, the there's a bellows at

the base of the gear lever which goes through the firewall.

And I got the car a month or so ago now and I noticed a little trickle of oil down on the on the on the rubber floor mat.

And on further investigation, the bellows had sort of popped off. But the reason it had popped

off, when you when you look where the the connection comes from, the gearbox that the gear that the gear shift linkage lines up with, that's actually not the centre of the hole.

So obviously the engine mounts given away, which is outrageous considering it was only 30 years ago I did it all.

Right, David, I want my money back.

Yeah, yeah, outrageous. So I'm gonna treat that car to a

new engine mount if I'm gonna find one.

And a guy in America has actually got a rebuild kit for the gear shift. So it's a bit Citroen 2 CVS, I

suppose, in the way that it actually comes sort of almost up from under the dashboard rather than out of the floor and, and through the firewall. And there's about, oh, there's

about 6 universal joints, I think in the, in the, in the whole thing. So once they start getting a bit

loose and a bit, you know, that becomes really sort of sloppy in the gear shift. And I know my car has sort of

been getting worse over the years, but but I can drive it.

And then I let good friend of the show, Edward Rigglesworth drive it. And he's a very mechanically

sympathetic man. And yeah, he didn't find it

easy. And I thought, you know, I don't

think it's his fault. I think it's the car's fault.

So now we can get that rebuild kit.

Someone's actually who knows what they're doing is created one. I think I'll grow a couple of

kits to have have a few here. Good idea.

Yeah, they're not, they're not a lot of money and and they just involve, you know, taking out each each joint and and sort of re pushing it. So I'm excited by that because

that car is probably the car I've spent the least money on the 30 years, the 35 years that I've owned it scarily.

And yeah, it's just like a little watch.

It just starts every time you send the key back.

Yeah, it's probably due for a little bit of bit more love.

So bit of love, bit of love. That's what will be given that

car. For 30, was he 35 years?

I mean, that's longer that I've been alive.

That's, you know, and to have virtually nothing really go wrong with it, it's pretty good, mate.

Like, that's pretty unbelievable.

Well look, we've rebuilt the engine in 1995 when we did the Dutton rally to Adelaide for the Basque Grand Prix in Adelaide did. You rebuild it before or after.

Before, because there was no problem with it, but we thought we actually got some sponsorship for it.

Actually, back then you could literally take the parts book into Ward Motors in Box Hill and say I want one of these, one of these, one of these, one of these, and if they didn't have them in Australia, they'd get them from Japan.

Everything was still available over the shelf for them.

Well. So while Mr Honda was alive, he,

he, he insisted that all the parts were still available for, for all the old cars. But yeah, he, he died a couple

of years earlier and they were drying up and a lot of the parts were like, you know, this is, they're not, none of these available sort of thing. So we grabbed the bits that,

that we could. And yeah, I mean, my son, one of

my sons has just rebuilt a 360 engine for a car he's putting together and he's struggled to get the bits, but he has got them and they're, there are reproduction bits and there's a good club in Japan that supports them very enthusiastically still so and he speak Japanese, which doesn't hurt.

So yeah, it yeah, if you, if you need the parts.

But thankfully there's such a simple engine, so little wrong with them. And yeah, so I've been very

lucky over the years, but the, the luck comes partly from the point of view that they're, they're very well engineered and and very few, you know, moving parts.

At the end of the day, that's, you know, simplicity is also key, right? So that that does help.

The fact, you know, there's not a clock, there's, you know, nothing in it to drain the battery.

So I mean, that's the batteries last few years, yeah.

So no, no, that's over the next couple of months that car hopefully will be have a little bit of a birthday.

Watch the Space Chad updates with you.

Not a whole lot, being pretty quiet with cars at the moment, but I did get the Tarago out and about a couple of times over the last few weeks did a big cardboard dump run through our local cardboard dump plants. Dizzy plants.

Yeah, well, I mean, I didn't just go and dump them some randoms, but yeah, no, I did that.

Obviously it swallows anything. You throw in the a lot of a lot

of anything. And got that out.

And he gave it a nice wash as well at the car wash, because I'd been sitting on the street for quite a while.

Then I drove it to work yesterday and it was really seeing all these sort of dual cab utes and, you know, golfs and whatnot, and then just a egg parked in the middle of them.

It was amazing. It was amusing.

I saw Rd today still, you know we've had some, you know, surf stickers on the back window, but the reckon they would have bought it new. It was a the the demographic of

the driver of the car and it was those good old GLI auto awesome.

I thought of you. Amazing.

Glad to glad to know. It brings memories, you know?

Yeah. It's been pretty quiet.

Yeah. I'm kind of really thinking of

what else I've been doing. Really.

Yeah. Cool.

Yeah. That's really old for me.

How long have you seen? He doesn't have a car.

We don't need chocolate. Yeah.

Yeah, he. Doesn't really.

We don't. Yeah.

I am responsible for looking after some cars.

Are you? Yes, I am.

So I decided to leverage the higher purchasing power of my the the company I work for to buy some cheap parts.

So one of the the contracts we have is with cool Drive auto parts and they have quite the selection of things.

So I decided to get wipers for the Jazz.

That's nice Bosch ones. Sorry, nice Bosch ones, not nice

ones. Noise, noise.

That's a new Car Talk word now, noise.

Noise. I got a cabin air philtre and

that's based on what Ed had said.

Maybe to look into first got the charcoal 1, you know with the activated charcoal and I'm just trying to think I think that was it for the Honda. I also purchased a cabinet

philtre for the D Max because that one it's been well since I've had it hasn't been changed. I don't want to pay the

dealership. No, sorry.

The steelership yeah like probably $90.00 to change it

out. I also also got a diesel fuel

philtre for the D Max because I think they don't change that until like the third service and even that I'm pretty sure isn't part of the service. It's an optional extra.

OK, so you know, I would like to see what their cost is going to be because I think I'll be in for the service maybe around July. So I'll do change it out now and

then when they say would you like to change it out for probably 110 dollars or something ridiculous, I'll say no, I changed it out myself. Thank you.

So that was a bit of regular maintenance and I didn't do actually do the Philtre on the DMX yet just because I haven't driven it around. I did do it on the Honda, the

cabin Philtre, it was very easy to get to and nice and easy.

Just take out the pocket and nothing like the Subaru.

We have to undo some screws and stuff and the the old Philtre I think. I suspect the previous owners

had actually changed it sometime.

It was nowhere near discussing as I usually see them in the video is where the person that hasn't changed it since New Year's leaves. Yeah, sorts of stuff because,

yeah, the car's like the 2014, so it's 11 years old.

It was not an 11 year old. Yeah.

It doesn't look like it's 11 year old.

It looks quite good. You know, it looks quite good,

yeah. They can go.

So did that. I changed the wipe of fluid now

in the Honda as well into O&R Optimum.

No rinse so it doesn't leave any kind of weird water stains on the on the paint. We'll probably actually

incorporate that into our Car Talk ASMR videos.

There's some nice blue tinge to it.

Did that. Decided to take the STI for a

spin on Sunday and lo and behold, the battery was dead good. Price surprise, yeah.

And. Are you not like taking it like

the negative off or triple charging it once?

I triple charge the typhoon once a month overnight and I.

Do triple charge and I don't know if it's been more than a month and that's what kind of got me, but the battery is now over four years old. It doesn't get started much and

it probably doesn't get like I've let it run flat a few times at this point so. I know a guy.

Yeah, so I don't know you know a guy, but I also know a guy and that guy is me. So I, I enlisted to one of my

work colleagues because they they have a contact with the battery group and they basically got me a battery that it's, it's stop start compatible, I guess. So they're a little beefier even

though my car doesn't have stop start and I think I'm going from like 450 call cranking amps like 650.

So and for the low, low price of like 160.

Dollars that's cheap yeah, yeah, it's good that's I.

Think it's about $110 off retail.

Well, all right. Yeah, that's like, maybe I need

to be your guy now. Maybe I need to see you for a

battery. So I haven't, I haven't put the

battery in yet just because I'm like, look, I'll, I'll run the old battery one more time and next time it dies, which will probably be in a month, let's be honest.

I can just throw on the new battery and then run it from that point. So you know, I took, I ended up

taking the STR for to drive anyway because I started her up, went to Bunnings, went to a sister's house, got my brother in law in the car. We went to get chicken very.

Specific. Yeah, it.

Was cha cha chicken for anyone wondering yeah some nice nice charcoal chicken and a little bit of fried chicken because they do it usually do a bit of both and yeah that was the the STR for the Sunday. Apart from that I think

everything's been going good. 01 update So because I was messing

around with the fuel economy on the Honda Jazz as we discussed that I tried to do the 711 mobile fuel challenge with their allegedly better for fuel economy fuel that that.

Just like shaking his head that. Came to.

Another challenge was interesting.

Yeah, well. So, you know, to me it's a

challenge. It's like we give you a bit of

fuel economy. I'm like, by what metrics, Sir?

I want to know. So I was indicating about 6.1 by

the end of the tank and the actual measurement according to how I refilled was about 6.46 point, 5 litres per hundred KS.

So better than what my previous fill up was, but I suspect that it had a lot to do with how much I use the air conditioning more than anything else. So this fill up, I just said,

you know what? I'm going to have goof.

I'm going to go for E10 from just a United pump because I really don't care about the Honda.

I care, but I don't care that much.

Like it's a tank I'm going to run through within a couple of weeks at most. It's not enough anyway.

Yeah. It's got enough knock sensing in

there, yeah. So, so, so I put in the E10 and

I'm like, Oh well, this is probably going to show, you know, a big dip. I'm indicating 5.8.

What? Yeah.

So I'm at, I'm at 250. Sure.

Yeah, I'm at like 200. And fifty.

Wow. And I'm still like well above

half a tank, so normally 250K is kind of be my midpoint.

So we're doing quite all right. And like, this is E10, allegedly

the worst fuel I could be using and not a mobile fuel that, yeah, you know, saves me fuel economy.

So I suspect it's just got to do with how much we use the air conditioning rather than anything else.

Like, as much as their fuel may be really good or bad, I don't think just driving habits and that sort of stuff probably make more of a bigger difference than what they can probably, you know, help out with. So we're still halfway through

the tank or less than halfway through.

You know, watch your space, because I think by next week's show I'll have a more accurate figure.

That's insane. If E10 from United is beating,

you know the. Price Promise 90.

Eight. Yeah, I wasn't, it was 91, but

it was the yeah, the fuel economy promise one.

Well, I don't know. I don't know, Maybe Sam alone

has got some, you know, explain to do.

Alan, I need like a a a ranking chart thing.

What are they called? Tier Tier Tier lists.

Yeah, tier lists too. We've got fuel tier lists.

Yeah. I'm intrigued.

I'm really intrigued. I really want to now do the,

we'll call it the the test run where basically we hop out on the Hume, do like a lap, fill up the fuel, see what what fuel economy we've got over like let's say a 50K journey or something. And then do that back to back

with like something from United, something like an E10.

I really want to do that now because I think that'd be pretty cool as like a video for, you know, yeah, absolutely.

The channel. But also like to put to test,

you know, like, I can't give them my commutes.

All roughly the same distance every day.

Just the nature of traffic and everything else.

You can be like, Oh no, you just had a better commute this whole time with the E10. That's why you've got better

fuel economy, that sort of thing.

It's an interesting discussion to have, I think.

Yeah, absolutely. And if we've got some figures to

back it up. I'm expecting to see Venn

diagrams, pie charts, I expect to see it all.

And then we'll get somebody from A Current Affair to, you know, come on the show or just more fair like, you know, we'll be outside the 711. Be like I just want a fair go.

I'll track down Mr Mobile himself.

What are you gonna say if he's only just chasing you as he's?

Chasing some poor lady for the corporate office.

He's like, I'm just an account sort of doing things.

I'm just the receptionist. But like I love with those

videos that they they do like the it's like the whole background goes black and then they do just zooms in on the face of like how evil these people are.

It's like it just it makes me laugh every time.

Love it. It was like filling a tank is

just a normal occurrence for most people, but for this man it was the beginning of a challenge.

This shows me he doesn't walk into my car.

Yeah, and. I was like I was shocked

Flavagast and I couldn't believe they were doing this to me.

Sugar do. You remember the time Riz was on

the news? No.

Yeah, so, oh, wait, yes, yes, these cars.

That's stolen. Yes.

Yes, yes. So they spoiled his name, but

he's like, they couldn't even spell my name right.

What was he on the news for? Can we say or not?

Well, they stole his car. He was like, I just want a

figure. Yeah, that.

Was yeah. It was, I think it was involving

like a a car tracking system. Correct.

Yeah, so they they. Oh, right.

Yeah. But yeah, yeah.

He loved that little Hyundai, actually.

Did a lot of work. For a lot of work, did a lot of

work, yeah. Anyway, moving on with my car

dates, took the Forester. The Forester has had this like a

bit of a sensor issue for a while and took it in to get to get it looked at. And of course can't fault it

because it never faults when when someone else is written in doing it. Yeah.

I'm driving it, I picked it up today, driving it, driving it 10 minutes to the studio and it, it did it again.

I'm like, are you kidding me? Like you had the car to hold and

they, they're like to me, we drove the car all like, you know, every, every couple hours, just just around the block and stuff and no issue at all. I'm like, of course I won't so

start it again. So I want to take it back with

the code and they're gonna they're gonna fix that.

So you you've got the code this time.

Yes, Yep, Yep, got the code just yeah, because I weren't sure which which which sensor was like which which came came angle sensor because it's got four that car, which is really annoying. So yeah, they had to yeah, but I

think we've got the right one. It says bank 1 high, although I

can't really double check it, but yeah.

So that'll get sorted. What else have I done car update

wise? Speaking about how you were

mentioning with your oil experience, really.

I went to The Wreckers a week and a bit ago, probably probably 2 weeks here actually, and I so like my housemates and Steph will always Steph jobs the forest now, but my housemates kind of adopted it. The the the gold lays at normal

as we as we as we know what else?

Yeah, on the cluster has got a bit of a crack and and no one seems to know how that happened. Even my house was like, I don't

know, it was just there one day. I'm like, oh, that's that's

really weird. So I went to the records and

pulled another one out like a really like a really low colour example. Really nice and you know, nice

one. Put it aside and I went to go

get something else out of the car and I went and I went to step back. I stepped on it and cracked it.

It took me 20 minutes to get it out.

So I was like, Yep, that's that'll be a job for another day. So yeah, I can can relate to

your pains. You just like kick it under the

car and be like dude, did you do nothing to see nothing?

To say, yeah, so that was a bit annoying.

But. Yeah, just just been doing a bit

of a bit of cleaning up, but I wanted to thank David Prince for tidying up my, my, my roof rail caps, which I unfortunately broke taking them off to put my, my racks on.

So thank you, Mr Prince wanted to thank you personally on the show. Very welcome.

What else have I done? Car related?

Not much. That's pretty much it on on my

car things as I was away for a week.

So I didn't really get to to do mini car related shenanigans.

Moving on to tonight's talk. We said last week last shot I

should say we were talking a lot about the failed merger again with Nissan and Honda. Like we mentioned it, we touched

on it. I wanted to go into a bit more

detail about it because Nissan again today they've announced, I don't know if you have seen this, they announced after 18 years they've stopped taking orders for the Nissan GTR.

It's it's officially officially retiring the R35.

It still holds up really well as a, you know, as a performance, you know, performance car. So but they're still taking

order. So like, you know, Nissan is

obviously, you know, down downsizing and doing doing all those sorts of things. But the failed merger, why did

it fail? Now, gentlemen, have you have

you heard much about the reasons why or, or you know much know much about what's going on with with with this this occurring story? With a lot of these things, it's

like war. It's like the the first casualty

is the truth sometimes. And I think news outlets and

stuff will will stream a tap to suit them.

But I, I think one of the one of the one of the stopping points was to do with Renault, wasn't it?

I believe that Nissan expected Honda to pay Renault out.

Yeah. And they said, yeah, no, we're

not doing that. Yeah, yeah.

So pay out as in like out of a contract?

I'm not exactly sure that did. The piece I saw didn't go into

details, but it was just that like, you know, trying to merge with the Nissan. Honda merger sort of has to

include Renault somewhere because Renault is so involved with Nissan. But yeah, obviously money will

need to change hands. I don't know what percentage of

who owns who owns what. Yeah, that would.

I understand. That was one of the sticking

points. Yeah.

So, so that was one they Hunter also said that to to this and you know, suck your CEO for us to even consider it anymore.

And I think also like in terms of the technology between, you know, between them, it's, it's an interesting kind of kind of development. So, so, yeah, so but basically

Honda said Honda as an ultimatum to, to Nissan said basically sack your boss And, and we'll, you know, we'll, we'll reconsider. But that's a pretty, pretty bold

statement to say we were all supposed to mention because Mitsubishi is also part of this deal, which we haven't really talked about. They're they're kind of like,

you know, I think Nissan's got a massive stake in, in, in Mitsubishi motor and they're kind of just on the side saying, well, whatever happens to you guys affects us.

So you know that that's that's a that's a big issue as well.

So, yeah, So what actually happened with the with the, you know, with, with the merger, yeah.

So Nissan and Honda cancer, they're $50 billion merger.

So that that's that's a big, you know, that would have that would have been arguably the third largest automaker in the world after together in Volkswagen, you know, with that, with their subsidiary groups and everything.

But at 53 days it that's that's what it took to, you know, to do it. But basically Nissan's top brass

was reportedly deeply offended when they told him to go.

Nissan's had a this is a history of like your bosses kind of kind of having issues, you know, Carlos Cone was, you know, we got to talk about that story. That was one of the most most

nuts stories. Have you have you have you guys

heard of that that that story like how that all.

Yeah, it's hilarious. It is.

It's like something out of it's like something out of James Bond. Really you.

Think it could end up being like a Netflix documentary.

I would have to be. It'd have to be I'd.

Watch it. Sure, Surely it'd have to be.

Yeah, there's something out there like someone's done like an extended piece into. Yeah, like what happened with

him. Feel like I watched something.

Ah, you got to link that to us there because like, I'll try and find it. Yeah.

It's an, it's an incredible story.

Like he got out of out of Japan in a it was like a musical box.

Yeah. And they always, you know, fled

to Lebanon, where I don't think there's extradition there.

So he's, he's living his, living his best life.

But so, so they've had issues since then, really.

But like, it's weird because like Nissan were like, you got to think Nissan in the 2000s were really like, they were kind of a rock stars, weren't they? Like, you know, they the, you

know, they had the GDR come back, they had the 350 then 370Z. They had that.

That's some interesting cars. You know, they were, they were

really going places. And then it just felt like the

wheels just fell off. They they, they were doing, they

were doing big things, you know, colours going came out in a, in a GTR, you know, really showing, you know, showing, showing that their, you know, their power bringing the bringing a famous name back. But they've kind of just their

cars have kind of fallen into, you know, cheap copies of, of what they called renos and, and stuff like that.

And, and they, they just kind of like lost, lost their spark.

Like it's, they had, you know, they've, they, they, they were proud that they had Australia's largest selection of SUV's at one point. Like that, that, that, to me,

that's nothing to be proud of, you know, like that.

And that was part of the ad campaign.

So they, they've, they've kind of just bought dreary cars that are not super reliable, not interesting, you know, like the after the second Gen X trial, you know, which was a very popular car. The 3rd and 4th genes were still

popular, but you know, they had the same X Factor and then they they really meant went more soft software as when this is really, really their software as inverter commas actually had off road capabilities. So it was interesting to see,

you know, stuff like that, though.

They were just they were kind of being a shell of themselves.

So basically they've they've they've tried to merge with with Nissan because I really wanted it out from from what I can, what I can see, but they've, you know, it would this would have been a huge, a huge, you know, partnership, But basically they've kind of just said no. And it's they're finding

themselves behind behind the 8 ball because this this merger could have helped them with technology, could have helped them develop, you know, new, new cars because the E power stuff's while interesting, it's and it works around town, it's not really a feasible, you know, a feasible kind of kind of proposition because they're. Behind.

They're just behind and their products are sub subpar like like like the Chinese companies are are far ahead.

So they really would have needed, you know, this merger to, to really bring them, I guess not into the 21st century, but but you know, bring them, bring them back as a company.

And that all kind of kind of went downhill with with with this, with this, with this merger.

So only your opinion, fellas. I want to see why you think you

know, what are some reasons this happened and how and how they've gotten into and how Nissan's gotten themselves into this mess. I was just going to say the the

sun in in America is actually reporting that they are Honda actually had. Where do Honda actually

currently enjoys the market value in the five times larger than Nissan? So interesting the talk of

merger, you don't know what goes on in the back rooms and whether like a merger is often too, you know, comparatively similar, you know, an emerging of those two things.

I reckon if if you're trying to merge with a company five times larger, I think they've got more right to call the shots really, haven't they? Absolutely.

The word takeover comes to mind, I suppose, but and it's well documented that that it was predicted that Nissan had 12 to 14 months left to survive like by the end of last year.

So yes, I mean something. It'll be interesting to see what

happens in the next 12 months, then now and.

Then also with, with Japanese companies, they're very proud, you know, like, and, and seeing as, you know, the results would have been inverted commas, a takeover, but they're saying it as a merger, you know, with a big discrepancy in terms of, you know, 5, they're five times larger company, you know, being a Honda, you know, that, you know, Nissan would have been proud said, look, we'd rather this to be a merger, you know, and but Honda will be like, well, we've got we've got bigger stakes than you guys, you know, so I can see how that kind of would have probably, you know, made, made some conflict and had

some issues there. That in itself is a, a big

issue. But other, other reasons, you

know, it's basically Nissan is saying that they could also replace the CEO just because they, because they, they want, they want it to do they, they really want it because you're right. They, they are, they are they,

they were said like 12 to 14 months to survive like I think a few months ago. So if they're trying to survive

as a company and the CEO is not backing down, it's going to be an interesting time to see Nissan.

And, and it's just sad because like, you know, the, the Halo cars, the GTR, which is which fair enough.

It was 18 years, you know, in production.

But also, you know, they've got really nothing else in the market. They've got nothing that's, you

know, class leading and they really needed this to, to kind of to kind of help them. So it'll be interesting to see

where they go. Yeah, I think they started to

drop off years and years ago. You know, 2000s is when it kind

of started. I don't think merger with

Renault was very good. Yeah, no, neither.

That they're just using all their engines, which aren't that great to begin with. Yeah.

Sports car wise started with like 350Z which was OK, it's OK now, but when it first came out, you know, people are using it for drifting and everything, but that's not bringing this and any money now when it first came out.

Then they brought out the 370 which looked good but did not sell well, was a bit of a flop and even unfortunately the the latest said was a big flop for them.

They're just not getting the hype behind them, Yeah.

That was a real shame. I mean, it's, it's a sharp car.

It just unfortunately couldn't do everything that the new super could do. Yeah.

And I really probably. Found it in every single way.

Yeah, like I've seen about 3 or 4 on the road.

That's pretty much it. Like I've genuinely seen.

Yeah. I mean, everyone's saying that

the, that the, that the Kylie should have brought had originally was the Nissan. There's an Z Nismo, which

apparently fixed all the issues of the, of the, of the, the current Z because it was too soft and not enough power and just just a bit boring. But they only offered it as an

automatic. So, so, so the, the purists are

pissed off. So like, it's, it's like they're

making, they're making calls that aren't really, you know, helping them as a brand. You're paying that extra 30

grand or so. It's a big.

It's a. Big price drop, you can get all

the supra. Absolutely.

Run rings around it. Correct.

Yeah. Now you've got better, you've

got even more choices from Toyota.

Yeah. Not just the Supra, you've got

some great choices coming along. I think what they're doing now,

what GR are doing is fantastic. They're keeping themselves very

relevant. They've got a great market in

domestic and performance cars. The thing that, so the thing

that these companies need to realise, I mean, those cars are quite niche and they're quite expensive for what they are.

Some would say, not personally, but some people and they don't sell in numbers that are going to save the companies.

But what they do is create goodwill and they create enthusiasm around the brand. I think, you know, listen,

listen, pulling the pin on the GCR is just another nail in the cotton really. It's to take that that away.

I mean, I I can't tell you how happy, you know, that I was went Honda keep working on the on the Type R and and they've developed that now to be, you know, such an incredible car because it yeah, it it does philtre down. I mean it by association.

It sort of drags the other cars up by their bootstraps.

Really. Yeah.

Absolutely I. Think your basic Toyotas look

great? They're pretty, unfortunately,

that we don't get here. Yeah, yeah.

Good. Looking car.

My goodness, Yeah. I think they'd sell really well

if they brought them here. I would have imagined they look

great. But that and the Corolla

Touring, you know that you can both, you can buy them both now.

Oh, 30,000 sub $30,000. Yeah, yeah, for the Touring

hybrid waggon. And the Prius is I think a bit

about four or five years. And they're not too bad even as

a grey import now. So Toyota, yeah, all that, but

those options are there still for us, thankfully.

And then when you look at Nissan with their advertising, I was just driving past heading into the city and they've got a big billboard and all I've got there is just the Nissan Qashqai.

Which is a terrible car. In Qashqai with certain, I can't

remember what the they're pretty much just advertising that car and plus the a decent warranty that you get with every car maker now really it wasn't really anything better than anything you get from Kia and Honda or anybody but just advertising that. But that's it.

Like what else do they have if you walked into a Nissan dealership? Yeah, yeah, you're right.

You spot on there's. Nothing there.

Oh come on, they've got the X trail.

They're still making that. Yeah, it's it's a shadow of

itself, but it's they're still doing it.

I couldn't pick it from a line up of other Nissans.

No, you can't. You can't.

No, like is it? It's just like everything else.

The only thing that looks different is the is the joke.

I mean, Duke, that's the only, that's the only thing that looks slowly different. You know what's kind of keeping

them afloat is the patrol. At the moment that you patrol,

that's. Just because all the Saudis keep

buying. Yeah, even around here I see

quite a few popping up everywhere, all around Craigieburn. Yeah, yeah.

Patrol Central. Yeah, they they sound pretty

good. They.

Sound sick? Yeah.

The big eight in them sounds pretty good.

Not a guy put up next to me with a super like like a harp supercharged one. I was like poor jeez, that'd.

Be cool. They was sick.

I was like, I was like, that's, that's pretty cool.

That's what's kind of keeping them afloat in Australia.

Well, I was reading some summary points.

This is pride and denial hindered merger talks and Honda's Honda pushed Nissan for deeper cuts to jobs in factory capacity. Nissan was unwilling to consider

factory closures closures because you know, they're, they're, they're quite proud of, of, of what they do.

And Honda's proposal to make Nissan a subsidiary caused tension. So basically they wanted, they

wanted a lot more control, which to be fair, they're trying to save them from complete utter failure and said, well, this is how it's going to be. It it this just reminds me a lot

of the Ford and Ferrari kind of thing.

You know, Ferrari was bank or forward and said, you know, we we'll do it, but we'll we'll we'll dictate when you can race and this And then they were just like, yeah, no, we're going to back out and then we'll go to somebody else.

So I've got a feeling that this and we'll probably find someone last minute, whether it be, I mean, I doubt it would be a Toyota. I bet it because they're, you

know, I think they're kind of moral enemies, but the, I think it'd be, it'd be another Japanese manufacturer or it could be, it could be one of the Chinese.

Actually, no, they probably wouldn't give to the Chinese or the Koreans for that matter. They, they might, they'd

probably consider, you know, like a maybe a Tata or something like, you know, an outside entity to, to, to give them a hand that'll say no, You still get, you know, your, what you want to do with your, with your company, but we'll, we'll just back you in and give you some different financial.

So what was that, David? Just give you $60 billion to do

what you want. Yeah, pretty much.

And then just watch them sink and burn.

So yeah, it's it's an interesting one.

It's very interesting. My last question to you guys is

what do you think needs to happen for them to stay afloat?

And if they and if if that's the case, do you think a merger is or, or a takeover is needed? And I'm deep.

Look, they're going to start making better cars and I don't think that's going to happen. Well, they can't afford to,

yeah. It's either they can do a merger

and try and maintain some of their identity or they can wait till they collapse and then to just get some bits picked out of them, in which case you know they've lost all identity.

So it's up to them really. That's fair.

Yeah, it's, it's sad the emerge has to happen.

I don't think the government's going to.

Bail them out. Bail them out.

And even if you do, they're just going to keep going their their ways. See where he needs to get lost.

He seems like a stubborn man. So you're going to get rid of

him, and you've got to bring someone in that's ready for change. Yeah, you have to change, and

you've got to change now, or else you're obsolete.

Well, it's I think it's too little too late to be honest with you, because like their, their product is already not great. Like in the E power think it

does work. Like it's, it's, it's not that

it doesn't work. And, and from all accounts, you

know, the engine's just essentially a generator that just just generates your, your battery charge for, for your, for the battery, for the, for the electric motors.

And you know, it's great for, you know, for for most people, but in terms of like a we call. So what was that, David?

An economical mode. Interesting though.

Yeah. I was amazed when they it came

out. I was interested in the E power

tech, you know, in the in that SUV field because I mean it look at Rav wholesalers and things like that.

I potential, but but yeah, they're not they're not they're they're not as economical as a hybrid either.

Which, which, which for me, like technically it's, it is a hybrid, but it's the, you're right, the economy just isn't there because, because the engines are operating at peak talk to charge the batteries when they need to be.

So that using a peak talk, they're, they're going to be, they're going to use more fuel, hence the reason you're why that's happening. And, and look, that type of

technology has been around since the 70s really like in like big crane equipment. And you know, and it's, it's

even still used today in like buses and, and, and, and stuff like that. And there's a company doing them

in trucks in, in the US now, you know, they're using smaller diesel engines just as generators for, you know, for the, for the battery packs just to keep going.

But, but, and they're more efficient than than your big, your big, you know, 6, sorry, 13 litre diesels and stuff.

That's. What the Edison Motors?

Edison. Yeah.

Edison, Yeah, that's in. Canada routine they're yeah,

you're using like a nine litre scanner I think yeah and that's their like yeah, power generation motor which is running always that kind of optimal RPM.

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, so I think they saw

about only 15% gains on Hwy driving, but in stop start, I think there's like 3040%, yeah, or more.

Which in that instance it works, yeah, right.

But like in terms of, you know, a car, I just I don't think that technology is right for for for what that.

Is yeah, especially considering how well and advanced current hybrids are. Incredible.

Yeah. I think they've really got a

sort of. I think they have to stop

looking at what most and this is a weird way to like this is a weird thing to say for a company, but obviously what they're doing is not working. Yeah, they're bringing out SUV

is they're back. They're sort of like gone 100%

into it. But, you know, people just

prefer other things that they're not really.

Yeah. So I think, you know, a little

division like GR Corolla or sorry, GR or something like, you know, it's not a lot of companies doing a lot of Hyundai's and BMW's M that that sort of thing would probably go a long way, which obviously means a lot of investment which they don't have the capital for. But this should have been

happening 10 years ago. Yeah, it should have been

happening at the time they were doing the 370 and the and the hype of the 370 was still pretty like, you know, fresh.

They should have gone full into that instead of just basically canning the Z for a short amount of time and then just, you know, going all out with SUVs with like what everyone wants.

And this didn't work. I mean, hindsight is, you know,

2020 sort of thing. But yeah, I think their best

chance is to, you know, merge with Honda or I'm not sure anyone else on the table anyway. Like that's I was just reading

like there's no real thing of like the government, I bailed them out. There's there's no certainty at

all. So Honda actually stipulating

terms because they're the ones that going to be footing the bill, so to speak, they're going to speak in themselves 100%.

I mean, what would the merger actually cost, like buying all their assets or like having a or just having a cash injection into Nissan so that they can keep operating with what they have? It's going to be billions of

dollars and Honda, yeah, exactly taking a huge risk need to be able to call some shots as to what they would want out of their investment. Yeah, I mean, I really do hope

it happens. I I don't have a lot of love for

modern Nissan, but still it's a it is like a it would be really bitter to see it just sort of fold and, you know, weather away. Yeah, yeah, hopes, hopes.

I hope they can work something out.

I yeah, I agree. I don't think he can

underestimate with the influx of of all the new brands coming out of China. I, I, I think you've got to

create some sort of family or some sort of you've got to cater the enthusiasts because so many people buying cars and enthusiasts. And if they're, if they're, they

won't buy Nissan because there's nothing necessarily special about them. I mean, yeah, Type R, as Chad

said, M&N and all those sorts of things.

They do create something around the brand and I think that philtres across, whereas if they don't have that, well, why would you look at a Nissan even zoom zoom?

I mean, you know, Mazda as zoom zoom.

I mean that's must hold a record, I reckon for the for the longest, you know, advertising handle in motoring history, I reckon. But it's a successful, you know,

people still have that sort of feeling about about Mazda and you just don't seem to have it about Nissan.

And I think there's so much competition now from and and a lot of it's just driven on on price.

And that's that's where you run into problem because there are some rusted on people can't think of any of course, but they would buy a Honda because it's a Honda or a or a Toyota because it's a Toyota and they've always had them or, or something like that. But I think this is one of those

things that that will struggle because of the opposition and and the rise of the new brands that are coming.

I think I think the answer is to in what you guys are all saying, like for me, Nissan got got it looked, it looked like they got compliant and they got comfortable with with just sharing with Renault offering a substandard product offering, you know, cheap ish, you know, like that.

Like they're kind of like the more affordable way into a Japanese car. I think in comparison in terms

of just like your standard SUVs, but you really don't just they boring to drive, boring to look at, don't really have much tech, you know. The engines boring.

Engines boring not not reliability wise.

Out of all the Japanese cars, probably not the best, to be fair, at the, in the, in the current range.

So, you know, and they, they, they just got compliant.

They, they got, Yep, this is just this is, this is, this is what we do. And for me that's, that's a

worry when, when a company gets like that, like people want SUV's, we're just going to, we're just going to sell them SUV's in the drivers. But if you, if your product's

got nothing special, and even if it like if you're, if you're getting have valves that are, you know, starting to outsell unison, you know, for cheaper price, got more tech, better warranties, yada, yada, yada. You know, they, they look good.

They've got, you know, they actually kind of work there.

They seem to be the reliability's going great.

You know, it's, it's a worry for, for, for a company, company like this. And I and I think compliancy in,

in, in the automotive space or in any space written in, in terms of design and everything is something we is a space where you cannot be. You need to be, you need to

always be thinking like 2, two to three steps ahead, like your models. You need to have your next two

generations of models in your back pocket ready to go essentially. You know, and I was speaking to

a guy, he came into work and he worked for Ford and he's always like, oh, this is, this is midway through the last Gen on probably actually early in the, on the last Ford range of, you know, the 1st T6 platform. He's like, oh, we've already got

the next two, next two generations pretty much done.

I'm like, what the hell. Like he's like, it's like, yeah,

like you've got to be, you've got to be ahead.

You've got to advance your tech. You've got to do this.

You've got to do that. And I just don't feel like

Nissan's doing that. And I, and I think, you know,

having that, that merger, they just need, they need to swallow their problems. Like, hey, we're, we're not

going to survive. We're going to lose all our

jobs. We're going to, you know, this,

this, this, this, this, you know, maybe we just need to bite the ball and say, OK, in order to survive.

We'll, you know, and we can use their, their technology.

We can, we can, we can, you know, save on the development costs because, because Rena was just giving us their, their scraps essentially, or, or vice versa.

You know, this, this could have been a really good opportunity for them in terms of Halo cars. Like, yeah, they've got the, you

know, the, the Z and stuff, but it's not really, it doesn't, it doesn't feel special. Like even Nismo as their

training house, the inhouse, the inhouse training house, it doesn't feel as special as like even N these days, you know what I mean? And that's and, and NS come a

long way for, you know, for Hyundai, like N feels like, oh, that's a proper tuning house, whereas Nismo is like, oh, there's only specific models, you know, like that's, you know what I'm trying to say, Sorry. Little attachments you couldn't

even take body kits. Yeah.

It's like a little lit key and then maybe a little side skirt pieces and some red and black striping.

Now that's it. It's pretty disappointing.

It is pretty disappointing and and for me, that's kind of where Subaru is heading in a little bit of ways with STI.

It's just, it's not, it's not the same, but, you know, we're we're not, we're not quite there with Subaru just yet.

But I feel like, I feel like Nissan is the TS range.

Yeah. TS range.

Yeah. So, but but yeah, Nissan's needs

to really consider getting this getting this emerging inverted commas takeover sort of happening.

Otherwise, we're not going to see Nissan for much longer.

Neil David Prince, I believe you've written a quiz for us.

I have. Oh.

Cool. I'll stay for the quiz, stay for

the quiz. Oh, OK, just because I'm not in

it at last week. Yeah, you would have heard.

You would have heard the comments.

David Prince. So we got Alan.

Scotty chatted myself. Also, David, you know Matt's

going to win, so you know. Get off it.

So, well, no, you've been colluding this.

Yeah, the the whole time we've been colluding.

Ready for a forward question straight away, yeah.

How many Sr twos were were sold in Australia?

David Prince. The floor is yours, my friend.

Write that down for next time, that one.

So we've got a couple of, we've got some rebadged cars here.

We've got What Car am I? We've got a few and a few other

little bits chucked in question #1 From 1996 to 1999, Kia sold the Kia Roadster on its home market and on several overseas markets not in Australia. It was a rebadged what?

Matthew. Matthew.

It was a Lotus Elan wasn't. It it was correct.

Yes, well out. Of.

The but his question who supplied the original the engines for the Elan? Or the original 1?

Are we talking about the? Hey, you, you said it's David.

Don't finish the question. He wants to answer a broken

question. You get to answer a broken

question. OK.

All right. So is this in relation to the

allowance? They based on.

No, you don't get to finish the question Sir all.

Right. Jeez, I'm going to say I'm going

to get this wrong, but was it a Ford engine?

Incorrect. OK, there's still a bonus point

out there and then. Could you finish the question

please, David? Yes, I will Alan, because you

asked so nicely by the engines for the original Elan.

When I say original Elan, I do mean the re imagined Elan of the 1990s, not the 1960s. Oh.

Damn it, I know the answer to this question.

Chad. It's a Rover engine.

Incorrect. No, no.

Well, according to my race. I I thinking yeah, it's in that

era of you know, early MGS and Yep yeah also the Elise then had the first Gen Elise was a that was a robot Casey sober engine yeah yes Scotty and Alan still got a chance to answer this question you got you guys gonna answer you out I'm.

Gonna at least have a guess. Yep.

Of. Course Toyota.

Good, good guess, but no incorrect.

Alan, Alan, I was going to say Yamaha.

No, the answer's the answer's Isuzu, isn't it?

Yes, it is. Is Oh no way.

What the hell like a Gemini engine or something.

It was a twin Cam, It was. Except I've beaten you on.

Just a little bit. I thought you were talking about

the OK, you got me. I shouldn't have buzzed.

All right, You got me. You got me.

Question 2 From 2003 till 2007, General Motors launched the Chevrolet or Chevrolet brand in India with a re badged Subaru.

What was the name of that car re.

Badged Subaru. No.

That's an interesting question, I did not know that.

There you go. I had no idea that GM had their

fingers in a Subaru boy neither. Did.

They've actually, they've actually got a stake in Subaru still, I think to to this day, I believe.

Yeah, they've that's how the whole Saab was.

It 92X happened. Oh yeah, of course.

So yeah, which is a WRX Saab. They call them the Sabaru, which

is quite funny, I'm going to say.

Bonus points to that, Matthew. Oh, damn it.

OK, I'm going to say they launched it with the Subaru Outback because it's, you know, it's.

Incorrect. Pretty tough country, but I'm

incorrect. You're the you're a local

Indian, you should know this. That's race Sir.

Now was in India for a period of time in 2000 and two 2003 and alcohol. Nothing related to cars except

for my uncle's ambassador which had a tractor engine in it.

How good's an ambassador? I kind of want one.

Yeah, and yeah, I've got nothing.

Nothing. You're out, Chad.

You're gonna. You're out.

Yeah. No, I can't.

I can't think of it at all. Yeah.

I'm going to say Subaru legacies.

No incorrect. The name of the car that they

relaunched the brand in India with was the Chevrolet Forester.

Get out. Yeah, you're what?

The name. That's so ridiculous.

No, they didn't even even Maddie, I really figured you you would know that it was you a little bit of.

Wow, that's. So that's.

I'm going to try. I want to find Chevy badges and

put them on my forest now. Oh my God, do it do.

It. I imagine the outrage.

Every everywhere you go you have to like spend 10 minutes explaining the whole history in context.

You'll be that guy at the car show.

Let me tell you about my car and I just.

Well, yeah, I just googled it. OK there.

You go. I'm.

I'm. Shook.

I'm shook to the core. Just to look at the grill,

that's all. Yeah, it's probably got a bow

tie on the grill, that's the only thing.

I'd say it would, yeah. Question 3.

In 1989, Volkswagen built and sold the Volkswagen Taro on its home market in Germany or in Europe to plug a gap in their commercial model range. What was the donor vehicle?

It was the Volkswagen Taro which was called.

There's a few hints in the question there.

Yeah, so Matthew, so I'm gonna it's a commercial vehicle.

So they they did have, well, they had a version of the Caddy I believe, but I'm not too sure if it is the Caddy.

I want to say the Caddy just with I'm going to say it's like a Ute just with the Caddy like the the the canopy part cut off.

Incorrect. OK.

I'll just say the golf. Incorrect.

Oh. OK.

What year was this again, David? Don't forget this this, this

section is rebadged cars. That's what it started on.

OK. Gotcha, Scott.

Scott 1989 Volkswagen built and sold the Volkswagen Taro on its home market to plug a gap in their commercial model range.

Scott has buzzed in, I believe. Yeah, Scott has buzzed in.

You you said it's kind of in the name.

Well, I said the name of it but but in the question it tells you it wasn't a Volkswagen. OK.

Yeah, commercial vehicle Hilux. Correct.

Really. The Toyota Hilux was actually

assembled and sold in Germany as the Volkswagen Taro in 1989.

And their lies, the most their lies, the most reliable VW ever made 100. Percent.

Not put what not an engine light to be seen anywhere.

I wonder how many still around? Bangers, gears to to be heard.

Yeah, can. We have a score check please.

Score check alum and Chad on zero, Scotty and myself on one.

Oh, anyone's game. Anyone's game I.

Don't have to Google that target.

Make them easier. No, no, I like this.

This is good. In 2011, Lancha in Europe

relaunched the Thema. It was a spectacular failure as

the euro market didn't take to a re badged what?

OK. So 2011 think, think who owned?

Yeah. So it's definitely Fiat.

It'll be, it'll be have to be Fiat based, I'd say because we'll we'll, we'll, I mean, actually, no, no, it could, it might also be be Stalantis based.

So I want to say, Matthew, I want to say I want to say Chrysler 300. Could you be?

I was going to say, should you be actually doing this in your head rather than out loud method.

I'm wrong though, aren't I? No, you're 100% correct.

Yeah, I was going to guess Chrysler, but I'm wasn't sure what like. The Chrysler 300 and C.

Sure. Yeah.

I thought that might have come out with something silly like one of those convertible like Sebring or something, you know, dumb like every band that is online.

Yeah. I.

I come with the last time I saw a Sebring convertible.

It is a horrible vehicle. God it's so bad.

What? Like I, and I can't believe I'm

saying this, but I'll take a PT Cruiser over one of those any day of the week. Oh, easy.

I'll take a PT Cruiser over of other things.

Actually, you know, I'm I'm going to say this and this is I'm going to lose all my listeners, but I'm going to take a a Sangyong Stavik over over a Chrysler Sebring convertible.

It is. It is that bad.

It's a shocking. Card Didn't Michael Scott from

The Office have one of those? Yes, absolutely.

What a heap. Yeah, spot for the night, I

think should. Have been the bonus question.

Should have been the bonus question.

OK question 5. Which brand sold the most manual

cars in the USA in 2024? Chad.

Chad. 2024 I'm panicking. I'm just going to say Toyota.

Incorrect. Good guess though, I like that

one. God.

Ford. Incorrect.

Now, Matthew, I'm, I'm going to say purely for the fact that they've got a lot of, you know, they mainly sold as as them over there. I want to say Subaru.

Incorrect. OK.

It was Honda. Oh, there you go.

Well, Oh well. So driven by the fact type I was

manual only, and there's Civic SI in a manual.

Manual, yeah, so. Find bonus question How many did

they sell? Closest to.

Yep. Matthew.

Matthew. I want to say 38,000.

OK 38 K chat. I'll go. 5050 OK.

Just 50. It's your 50,000. 50,000.

68,000. 8000 Okay, well you're very optimistic, all of you.

Matthew was close to it was 17,400.

And Oh my God, that is so sad. That is terrible.

Just thinking of. In all of America.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Was just thinking America's big, so we're assuming.

That's what I that's what one thing it was going to be. 334

thirty 5 million people or something.

But yeah, they sold Honda managers sold 17,000 and now the most the the manufacturer that's of the most manual transmission cut. That's it's over.

It's definitely over for manual. It's it's done, Yeah.

Question 6 Rolls Royce has just announced if we and we all need to know. We've been waiting for it to

come out Black Edition of its sceptre and it's the most powerful Rolls Royce ever. How many kilowatts does its V12

engine produce? Closest to kilowatts?

I'm going to say something stupid because it'll be really fast for about two days and then it'll break because it's based on a BMW, so I'm going to say it is 985 kilowatts.

OK, Well, OK. I'm going to say it's 600 and

8680. Yeah, Chad, I was going to, I

was going to do 65650. 50 kilowatt.

OK, Chad, you get the chocolates. 485 kilowatts.

So it's quite down on power. I think you're all expecting to

be much from poor old Rolls Royce.

That's I feel like, you know, thousand kilowatt cars was sort of the you know, that's like, you know, today's flavour based standard today really isn't it cool?

Yeah, like, you know, the Bentleys are pushing, Yeah.

So I would assume Rolls Royce have upped that, yeah.

It's it's it's a tiny little bit more than than than the previous model, but the UN Black Edition is the is the non Black Edition white or is it just I don't know it.

Just sounds like your Butler's going to be out there cleaning your Black Edition all the damn time.

Yeah. Completely correct.

Butler. Question 7.

Some people say cars are said to be fashion accessories.

Which car has been available in both the Gucci and AD?

Chad Chad. Sorry, I just had to butt in.

Fiat 500, correct? Well done, Chad.

And a diesel limited edition. I have used the diesel Fiat 500.

It sucks. It's probably the only, it only

has the it's probably the only car in the world that's ever had a petrol engine but called itself a diesel.

But anyway, yeah. All right, there you go.

Questionnaire which tyre company collaborated with Volkswagen on a limited edition? Matthew.

Matthew. Pirelli.

Damn. It erect erect the I.

Should have known there's there's one on my street.

Is it? Is it?

Is it like is it that piss yellow colour too?

It's not. It's is it black?

Yeah, I think it's a black. Yeah, it is black.

Yeah. Because it's got it's painted.

The lower half is painted instead of plastic.

OK, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. I think I think you are right

with that in terms of. Yes, yes, yes.

Have you seen the fabric in the six?

Very cool. It's like a tyre.

It's a tyre tread. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, really cool. That's cool.

It's really cool. There's the yellow one that is

around the corner from us. Very cool things.

I like does. Piss yellow, That's what it

looks like. Yeah, it does.

I mean, I like it, but I've never attributed to that.

It's like, it's like Subaru did that with the WRX years ago.

Like it was like everyone knew what it was, the piss yellow WRX because that's what it looked like.

Question 9. Which manufacturer has just

chased a new manual performance car which will be the permanent model after the popularity of a limited edition last year?

That's a good question. It was a great question.

And when I say teased a new manual performance car, it's available to order I think now, but it will be released in a couple of months. And it's just a manual only.

A manual in a car that's not being available in a manual for.

For a little, OK, OK, that's a good, this is a good question.

So, so just you just to clarify, you're saying this it was available as a manual, then it's auto, then it's now about being available as a manual. There was a limited edition in a

manual last year. OK, because it was so popular,

they decided to bring it back as a manual.

OK. Or manual order, as mentioned

previously on the podcast this evening.

Chad, Chad Civic SI No, no, I wish that was.

I wish that was coming to Australia.

True. Now I'm just.

I thought didn't they say because it was it was so popular I would make it also in an auto? The SI is an American model.

Yeah. Yeah, Yep.

No, this is in Australia. Sorry.

Oh, this is Australia. Sorry.

OK, Sorry you. Don't have nothing but that

little vital bit of information. No, I don't know.

I can't think of anything. OK.

Yeah, I'm struggling with this one.

If I was mentioned on the show previously, I mean it couldn't be the quads of saving convertible.

It'd have to be something have to be something something of substance. Oh Gee, that is a good question.

May maybe it's. I get to this point now and I'm

just hoping against hope I haven't stuffed the question up.

Scott, Scott. Is it the GR Corolla?

No, it's not. Because I thought they might

have had a limited edition that was just the manual.

No, you can get. You can get a manual GR you.

Could anyway. Normally, yeah.

And they've they've. I was thinking of the.

So that was or or manual start and then they brought out an auto as well in the updated. In the Yaris as well.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Both ecology.

Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think this is right because like I haven't heard any news about the the Nissan Zed being Nissan Zed and Nismo being offered as a manual, but I'm just going to say Nissan Zed and Nismo. No, no.

I'm no the answer and I may well be wrong so we might have to scrub this question, but according to drive that was the Subaru WRHTS. No, yeah, you're right.

No, that's because it was the CVT.

Yeah, to begin. Oh, right.

There's a limited edition late last year.

Yeah, you're right. Yes, I do remember the limited

edition. Yeah, it was, it was a, it's a

top spec, top spec WRXTS with all the fruit because you can only get that as a, as a, as a CVT and then they offered it as a manual at the end of that. So yeah, you're right.

And. Then when they did, I remember

all the comments are going yes, yes, manual, manual.

Why only limited edition? Everyone was saying yeah.

Well, their answers, their prayers have been answered.

Yeah, and watch it never sell. No one can afford it, so it's.

Quite pricey. OK, Question 10, we'll wrap it

up. It's actually a three part

question, so there's still three points.

It's still anybody's game, really.

Still anybody's game. Game OK, so these are three

little quick. What Car am I's question 10 Part

1? I'm an 80s sport coupe and my

name means fire in Spanish. Chad Matthew, Pontiac Fiero.

No. No, that's all I was going to

say, but no. OK, well, that's kind of shot me

in the foot. Means any Sports Group meaning

fire. Oh, I know it.

Oh damn it. Fun fact only there's only one

tyre available to fit the car. Yeah.

Matthew. I run a lot of them.

Run Kamira SLE alloy wheels now. Matthew.

Matthew. It's on a Fuego is it?

Correct Renault ego. Did that have the weird half

inch size tyre? Yeah, the TR rims that our

Michelin TRX tyre would fit. Oh yeah, it's crazy.

That, that and the B28B5. Yeah, you're right.

It is what? Was it?

Francilly. Just madness.

OK, Question 10. How to?

Econo hatch that means spicy in Spanish.

I'm I'm I'm learning Spanish. Can you tell I'm not really, but

I should be because they're both Spanish?

Econo hatch. That means spicy Chad Chad.

Chad. Kia Picanto.

Yeah means yeah. Picante means like, like tasty

or yeah, yeah yeah, like flavourful spice.

Yeah, yeah. Jeez.

Chad Espanol. I'm learning.

I'm on Duolingo at me. Oh really?

Yeah. At 3:00.

So a sporting themed hatch, not necessarily sporty hatch.

A sporting themed hatch whose model spec includes club and match options. Scott got that.

Is that Mini Cooper? No, I.

Thought I had a match, Chad. Chad.

Volkswagen Polo. Correct.

Match really like it triggered something.

I remember seeing a match badge on one I'm like.

Yeah, what a weird badge. Yeah, yeah.

So I thought completely fine, but it was yeah, because of polo match and Polo Club. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to say they had weird

badges in the 2000s and they like like the golf had generation. Like what does that even mean?

Golf Generation. Bring it back, bring it back.

And Suzuki had the every joy pop turbo.

Turbo correct? Final scores please, Maddie.

Final scores Alan 10 chat on one sorry I don't sorry Scotty on one chat on four and myself on five S chat almost beat me at the end well done Oh that was a good race to the end There wasn't channels on fly his Duolingo is coming in handy there yeah really I'll. Do some more Spanish ones for

next week, I'll have to. Can you please no Alan?

Alan will be like no collusion, etcetera.

Shenanigans. Yeah, shenanigans.

Ohh. Hold on Maddie.

Who was anyone that you like to thank?

Matt, thank you for asking me. I would really like to thank

David for for all the support and the and the collusion.

I would like to thank the only thing our listeners, you know, you're keeping us in business by doing this.

So, so, so thank you. So I've got to do like a.

Music playing, it's kicking you out all.

Right, I'm off my. Music's playing the.

Oscars. Fine gravity in a minute.

Scotty's golf tip of the week. Very quick one when you're

gripping. I know I've done gripping the

club but I'm just going to make it nice and simple.

When you're gripping the club, don't rest it in your palms, it goes in your fingers. OK.

Oh. OK.

Interesting. You hold it a lot.

So you want it sitting like that sort of thing?

Yeah. Then you wrap it around.

Yep. OK.

You set the club onto your fingers and then wrap your fingers around it that way. So don't wrap it in your palm

and then wrap. Cool.

Yep. Sounds good, like it there.

You go. Chad's delivery is delivering

something to you, near you anytime soon, David in Spanish, in Spanish. How do you say delivery in

Spanish? I haven't learned that far.

I'll. Get back to I'll get back to you

next week, David, I'll. Tell you what, they'll be coming

in Fuego. David Prince, I've I've I'll

take it with you. It's been a long you do.

You do, you know, it's been a long week.

It's been a long month. You do a podcast with Mr Edward

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