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recording this on Saturday, June 14th.

A lot of stuff going on today, but more importantly, personally, happy Father's Day tomorrow to all your father's out there, Your father figures out there, your mother's pulling double duty. Father's Day is a big deal.

In a few minutes, I link up with our good friend Wes Tankersley to talk about what Father's Day means to him.

We share some thoughts as well as Drew Bunkley, friend of the show, to talk about his Corvette experience, going out and driving the Corvette E Ray, as well as some car news.

But first, you know there's a lot of stuff going on.

You have the ICE, riots, protests, depending on who you are and how you think, what you've seen, where you've been breaking out in all the different cities.

Meanwhile, Israel and Iran are in a full scale war.

Missiles for the last few days have been flying back and forth.

I don't even think it's on the news here.

The only thing that covers the news here or the riots and the protests and today being Saturday, our current president's birthday and also being lauded as no King's Day.

So you have organized protest all around the United States, hundreds of thousands of people all over the place, hopefully mostly peaceful. You know, I got to be careful

here in how I proceed because, you know, we also had a Minnesota senator, lawmaking senator get murdered.

Her and her husband got murdered last night.

Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot dead, assassinated.

The shooter went to John Hoffman, which is another representative of the state of Minnesota, and tried to kill he and his wife and where he was intercepted.

The shooter was intercepted by local authorities.

He fled on foot. As of the time of this recording

at 2:00, almost 3:00 in the afternoon Pacific Time on Saturday, June 14th, he is still at large.

There's a manhunt for Vance Bolter, age 57.

And as you would expect on social media, on XI.

Don't know what TikTok is talking about.

I don't know what Facebook. I mean, all that stuff is

covered with all this King's Day stuff and I'm going to talk about that in a second as well. Let's continue this about Vance.

As we've been reported by CNN. He fled on foot and in his

vehicle they found a list of 70 people.

They're not releasing any of the information.

He was formerly employed by Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz, as was Vance Butler's wife. What that really means, again,

I'm going to be very careful. Social media is assuming a lot

of things. The people, the Republicans are

saying one thing, the Democrats are saying something else.

All I know is 2 people lost their lives.

Two other people are in the hospital and everything's going crazy. And so I don't know, speculate

it's still too early to really know what's going on.

According to CNN 10 Waltz, Tim Waltz is one of those 70 people on that list. And this list comprises of all

sorts of people, according to to reports.

But they found Flyers for the No Kings Day.

And I, I find that wildly, I wouldn't say convenient, but it's, it's a coincidence potentially.

And so it makes you step back and wonder what the hell is really going on. One day we're going to have a

conspiracy corner on this podcast and it's going to be a lot of fun. I don't want to play conspiracy

theorists today. So hopefully they get that

figured out. They get this suspect arrested.

Governor Tim Waltz has urged everybody in Minnesota government officials to stay away from protest today.

Stay away from federal buildings, state official buildings. And it's just a weird time.

Let's get to these no kings protest.

One of the things I find amazing is I think for most of us we would assume that these are stemming from the ICE raids, most recently LA, but this has been in place for a while.

I do question because it is ran primarily funded by Walmart.

Harris. I don't know her name right off

the top of my head. I'm not looking at the flyer,

but it's at the bottom of the flyer.

A lot of Hollywood elites were talking about this day and here's the thing, it is your right to get out there and protest, peaceful protest. But where are we drawing the

line in peaceful? Because you have all these

different narratives on social media and the news depending on what outlet and what you're looking at, it's peaceful and everything you're seeing is BS or it's incredibly violent and they keep saying it's peaceful, which is BS.

My thought, as is the same for 2020 riots, is it's always contained, typically not Taking Kings day aside, this is a very public thing today. But let's take the ICE rates.

It's usually a few city blocks, maybe a square mile or so where all Hells breaking loose and the rest of the city is usually pretty calm and chill and people are going about their business.

So depending on where you are in a city, it's either all Hells breaking loose or there's no reason.

I don't understand why people are so upset.

They're lying to you. I'm standing in front of these

police officers. There's nothing going on here.

But where do you draw the line between peaceful and aggressive?

What's peaceful? Not physically harming other

people. Because if you watch almost any

demonstration, not even this one, any demonstration, you have people verbally abusing, yelling, inciting, trying to get a rise out of people. The police, the Marines, the

National Guard. That's not peaceful.

Getting in people's face and yelling things isn't peaceful.

Standing in front of vehicles isn't peaceful.

Blocking traffic isn't peaceful. It's getting in the way.

Peaceful is standing to the side saying what you need to say.

Don't hurt anybody. Protect people that get out of

line so they don't get hurt. Before we get this word from

Arcus Foundry and Spark Forge is how did we get here?

Again, these No Kings day is planned for a long time and one can argue I suppose that what's going on in LA, Seattle, New Jersey, Tucson, AZ, probably Dallas, Chicago organized.

I think you have a percentage of people that live in the area that are genuinely protesting and you have a lot of agents that are brought in. It's been proven for all the

money and their only job is to exacerbate the situation and cause havoc. Whether you like Donald Trump

and ICE or not does not mean that it's OK to break into CVS and steal all the prescription medicine, break into Nike and steal all the shoes, break into Apple Store and steal all that.

What? What is one thing I have to do

with the other? And for those people who want to

protest, I think it does them a disservice when this other group is leaning into them and stealing and breaking all this stuff. Because now it's all you

protesters. You're breaking all this stuff.

It's your right to protest. You're never going to see me out

there doing that. It takes a lot to get me to that

point. But how do we get here?

My thought, and in a moment, I'll play for you what David Sacks said on what happened in LA.

No one's brought this up. This is how we got here, in my

opinion. And if you really think about

it, you'd be hard pressed to disagree with me.

Remember when Trump was running for president and Tom Holman was getting up there talking about the deportations and everything they're going to do? You remember that?

It's hard to forget. And once Trump was elected, the

first thing they started to do was get to work.

And you have the sanctuary cities.

All these mayors and senators. Police officials got on the

news, got on social media and said we're not going to cooperate with you. If you come to our city, you're

going to have problems. You don't have the backing of

our local police force. We're not going to tell you when

we have detained somebody who's done some criminal activity.

We're not going to help you. Good luck.

We dare you to come to our city and try to take our people.

That's the root cause analysis. Tell me I'm wrong.

Just put your thinking hat on because part of problem resolution is trying to figure out what is the root cause analysis. Now, one could say the root

cause analysis is letting in all these illegal immigrants, but how do we get to this part? Because no one can dispel the

argument. OK, well, Barack Obama deported,

I don't know, 4 million people and somebody else deported, 10 million people and somebody else deported, whatever, because you have no defense if that's, you know, if you say this is the worst thing that's happened in history, once someone throws those numbers at you, it's like, well, maybe what's going on isn't so bad. Oh, then this guy, they get in

front and they grandstand it and they rub it in your face.

OK, maybe they do. I'm not going to disagree with

that. And I sure as hell don't agree

with just going to any random job site and just searching everybody because they did say that they're going to go after all the criminals first and see where we go from there.

And you could think that they didn't, but if you really think about it, that's exactly what they tried to do.

And they were told that, well, we don't, we don't really keep records on who's who. And you get cities like New York

that's saying, OK, well, your job is to, when you detain somebody for doing something that's not a legal status here, not of legal status here, and they did an illegal activity, you can't release them back on the streets.

That's how we got here. And So what does ICE do,

Christine Noem, do they get warrants?

They find out who these people are and they raid their job sites. Tom Holman said that we're going

to find the criminals first. One thing I disagree with is

they're going to these job sites and they're just rounding up everybody whether they're serving a warrant or not.

So it's almost like, OK, you three people were here for you.

What about you 6, Show us your ID.

Oh, you're not. You're not.

You're coming with us, too. Not a big fan of that.

But again, I say this whole thing started when these mayors, I'm not going to say what party affiliation they are.

I hate being that person. These mayors, these police

chiefs, the City Council, people get up there and say, we're not going to help you do your job as a federal government.

You come to our city, you're going to find out we're not.

We're not down. And so when this stuff starts

happening in LA, Gavin, Newsom, Bass, they're doubling down.

They're not saying stop this. They're not saying, hey, people

act civil. They're saying, you keep coming.

We're going to keep fighting. What do you think that does to

people that are so easy to radicalize?

And that's how we got here. Now I'm going to put my

headphones on and I'm going to play for you a clip that David Sachs from the All In, very well informed talk about this podcast every once in a while. But According to him, this is

how we got here. And keep in mind, and I don't

know if they showed it on the news before things got nutty in LA, it was reported that a business owner had locked ice into a warehouse and the FBI was called in LA to come break them out. This is what started all this.

It's interesting about the warehouse.

I don't know if it's the same warehouse that you're about to hear about in this clip, but what do you think caused that?

So if you locked them in and there's let's let's say there's an organized sell of anti ICE people, because there is, they beat ice to the punch. Every time ICE goes somewhere to

grab people, there's already hundreds of people there waiting to protest, blocking vehicles. So where you have these

lunatics, I'm going to call them lunatics, call them idiots, call them low class, low, low IQ individuals getting in the roadways, standing in front of the trucks, blocking them.

Then you have people throwing rocks, bricks, big chunks of cement. Is that peaceful if you're

literally taking rocks and chunking them at police vehicles at the Border Patrol at ICE, Whether you agree with what they're doing or not, that's peaceful.

They're lucky that these officers didn't get out of their vehicles and arrest them on the spot.

I'm glad they didn't because it would have been even worse.

But I don't know if they even showed that on the news.

You can slide into my DMS and ask me.

I'll I'll I'll find the videos and send them to you.

And no, they're not fake videos. All you saw were people jumping

in front of cars and beating up cars and breaking shit.

And that's how we got here. But they've been following the

money and a lot of this is well funded and we have to be careful. We have to be careful what

incites us to take action. Because I, I have Co workers,

old former Co workers, I'm sorry, colleagues, probably friends that are out there today on No Kings Day protesting.

I've seen it. But they aren't the people.

Hopefully they're getting out there fully covering their faces up and causing chaos. They're they're peaceful.

They're saying whatever they're going to say, talk whatever shit, they're going to talk fine.

That's their, it's their right. So this is what David Sack says.

We're going to take a listen and I'm not telling you what to think about any of this. I just want you to think a

little bit more. Think logically, not

emotionally, because like I said, I'm not if, if, if they're really just ransacking these places.

I'm not a fan of that. I think they need to find a way

to do it. But also at the same time, a lot

of these people who were here, you come in, you get your interviewed, you get your court date.

They are finding that the court dates are five and six years in the future. So you're telling them they

could stay here for six years. And that's the Gray area that

kind of, you know, I get it, a Gray area.

If, if, if I'm waiting, if I'm here for asylum and you tell me that I have AI can hang around for another 5 or 6 years.

Technically I'm illegal, but also technically you've given me permission to be here. And so it's Gray area.

Just a Fact Check. One thing you said in the

introduction, you mentioned this fashion wholesaler that along with Home Depot, you made it sound like these raids were just happening Willy nilly. Like there's some big roundup

where they were just busting into places and seeing who's illegal, checking people's papers.

That's not what happened. This fashion wholesaler is a

money laundering operation for the Mexican cartels.

This is according to Tom Homan. And many employees there are

involved in very serious crimes, drug, gang and violence, murder, child rape. And there were warrants for

their arrest. So the way that this whole thing

started is ICE was serving criminal warrants that state and local authorities have no right to resist.

That's how this started. It wasn't random roundups.

OK, OK. I was just there's reporting.

And so for what David Sacks has said is true and there's no reason for me not to believe him.

Again, very reputable source, very reputable podcast.

And as you can see there, he and one of his other Co hosts are probably debating all this stuff because there's plenty to to debate. I get it on both sides.

But if what he is saying is true and they were rating a place ran by the cartel and had people in there with warrants, think of back, think back to what I said earlier in California.

LA is just as egregious as any of them.

We were not. We will not cooperate with the

federal government's efforts to remove these people.

You have to come in and get them.

And so that's what they did and that's how we got here.

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We're going to talk about Father's Day.

W welcome back to the show. It's been a while.

Yeah, You know, I was thinking about it when you asked me to do this, and I was like, fuck, you know, I take so much of your time anyway, so it's good to like get another hour of your time. You don't take any of my time,

man. But you know, you tell the story

that on Father's Day, it was my Father's Day episode that kind of drew you to the podcast. And since then just a natural

friendship occurred over bourbon and and stuff.

And for new listeners to the show, I used to edit Wes's podcast and he used to pay me with bourbon.

Yeah, which is a lot of fun. And then, of course, one drink

Wednesday kicked off. But I haven't had you on for

Father's Day. And you were a father of two.

Yep. You are a son.

You do have siblings. I guess I would start off by

saying, and we're recording this on Saturday, June 14th.

Father's Day is officially tomorrow.

And what does Father's Day mean to you, Wes?

You know, it's kind of weird. I don't, I don't know.

I mean, I, it's, it's like I'm, I'm very proud to be a father.

But I feel like now like after 11 years of having, you know, my daughter's 11 and my son has three, it's like, it's just an everyday thing, right? Like you just do what you're

supposed to do. And I was thinking, my wife

always asked me what I want to do for Father's Day.

She always lets me go golfing and I didn't want to make a tee time this year. So it's just kind of like, I

don't know. I mean, it's, it's a day to be

thankful for your father. Like I'm really grateful for my

father. Unfortunately, he lives far away

and so I don't really get to do anything with him.

But I'll give him a phone call tomorrow and my wife's going to Take Me Out to my favorite distillery and we're going to go hang out there for a little bit. They have like Silo Saturdays.

So it's kind of cool we'll do that.

But I mean, to me, it's just, it's part of life, right?

It's something that you do on a daily basis.

And I, I don't necessarily feel like I need credit for it, but that's kind of the way it is with me.

You know, like birthdays are that way, Christmas are that way, that type of thing. So I don't know.

How's your relationship with your father?

Good. You know, it's it's interesting.

I think you and I have had conversations before.

Sometimes we don't see eye to eye, Sometimes we butt heads.

But when I was a kid. Seems like a very normal father

son situation. Yeah, it it, but it was

different. Parts of life.

Yeah, it was different because like I, I was more of a mama's boy growing up. And my dad, I was an athlete.

My mom grew up with, her dad was a Parks and Recreation director and he put her in all kinds of activities and stuff like that.

And I played football and I played baseball and I played basketball like I played sports. And my dad grew up on somewhat

of a farm. My grandfather, his dad was an

entrepreneur. So like he owned a hardware

store and a mobile gas like distributorship.

Like he drove around a big mobile oil truck and.

Like filled up in the town that he lived in different gas stations. And then he had his own service

station with like the, you know, like the glass bubble thing.

Like they fill up the glass thing and then the gas comes out like the old school fucking gas machines.

And then he owned a tire store and all the stuff.

So like my dad was just basically blue collar work on the farm, you know, like they had 40 acres, they had cows and sheep and stuff. And so and then he haunted and

fished and I didn't really enjoy those things.

So I, my other two brothers, my little brother, big hunter and Fisher, but he played sports too.

And then my older brother kind of the same thing.

But my dad and my older brother were really close.

And my little brother and my dad, because he haunted and fished and all that stuff and was really into that, they were close. It almost felt like my dad for

me was out of his comfort zone when he was doing things with me, like taking me to. And I remember all the things he

did with me because like he would go out and I'd ask him to go throw me batting practice or take me to go hit or we'd go to the driving range and he'd do those things with me.

But it just didn't seem very comfortable to him.

You know, he'd go out be wearing his Wranglers and in a, you know, button up shirt, throwing me baseballs and it and, you know, just not very stereotypical of what you would think of one of those guys. But he did it.

And that was the thing, like he took his time.

He was tired as hell because he'd get up in the morning at 5:00, He'd drive 45 minutes to work, work all day.

And then the summer when it was like super farm season, like when they had to do a lot of things, he didn't get home till 7:00 or 8:00 at night, eat dinner, go to bed, wake up, do it again. And you didn't see him a lot.

So it was for him to do those things for us was he had to really go out of his way to do it.

And I sit here and think about some of the things I do for my kids and I'm just like, man, I need to be a better dad.

Well, you know, you're in provide mode.

You know what I mean? You're in full provide mode.

And before we go any further, do you want to tell us what you're drinking this fine evening? Oh, I got a little a little

Elmer T Lee here it you know, our buddy Chase sent me that bottle. Elmer T Lee.

He's kind of funny. He also sent me this glass, so I

don't know what it's called, but it's a type of Glencairn and it's pretty cool looking. But he sent me the Elmer T Lee.

It seems like every time I ask him for something that specific, like he showed me, he got the bottle.

He always sends us these pictures of Look what I picked up today and I wanted some Elmer because I can't find it here.

And so he calls me a baby sometimes when I ask him for stuff and then he sends it to me anyway.

And so he's he got me a bottle of the King Ranch that he got you as well. And I was like, how many of

these do you want? And I was like, just one, just

come on, take two. And I'm like, Nah, I want

something else, maybe a bottle of stag because I can't get stag here either. And so like he's just kind of

been playing me with the stag. Yesterday he sent me a freaking

video of like the stag. Like he's rolling up on it and

rolling it back down, but he's like, OK baby, you can get your stag. That's funny.

Yeah, he's a he's a good guy and he likes, I think it's exciting.

Like, you know, we'll get back to the Father's Day stuff really quick. But when you're into something,

whether it's, you know, hunting and fishing like your old man, you know, baseball, you know, like you and Lewis, Yeah, in the DMS, you guys hit it off and even bourbon, you know, everybody, a lot of people like to drink, but people don't really understand what it is to kind of get into the spirit.

So then when you find somebody that has the same passion, I mean, that's, you know, Chase has got a good circle of people there. Yeah.

I've hung out with them. They're my friends too.

But I think that's where a lot of that comes from with with your old man, though, you know. Do you think that when your

younger brother was born and got old enough and wanted to go hunting and fishing and doing stuff, he was like, oh, thank God because he was kind of, I think you pulled him out of his comfort zone a little bit. And you know, you said your

older brother and your younger brother got kind of into those things for a while at least that your old man is into.

I don't know, man, because I was kind of the one where I didn't like to. My brother did everything with

my old man and I didn't want to do anything.

But then looking back, because I was a mouthy kid that wanted to go out and do different things, I don't want to sit at home and help build the deck. I wanted to go out and hang out

with my friends. But I think looking back, you

kind of look at some of those defiant moments and with a little bit of shame, I think. But I wonder if the old man has

those same things or they kind of look back and kind of smile when they see the success and be like, you know, I had something to do with that, you know? What is your thought on that?

Yeah, and, you know, I mean, I think he's really proud of us.

It's kind of funny how it all boils down because, you know, I don't know, it's weird. Like we're all different, right?

Like in growing up with two brothers, my older brother is an engineer and he's very technical.

And like my dad's thing with him was like, I was thinking about today too, as a I'm putting in this post for a basketball or an in ground basketball hoop, right?

And it's crazy because I'm sitting there, Nolan is running back and forth, you know, he's 3 and he's bugging the crap out of me and I'm trying to get it done.

And I just thought about like, how did my dad get this shit done with three boys, 33 kids that were doing the same thing that we were doing Well. And then I started to think

about it. It's like my older brother, as

soon as he was old enough to start figuring out how to do things, was helper was the helper, right?

And I was kind of the like standby guy.

And then he, my little brother was just kind of screwing around doing something else. And so I wasn't as helpful as my

brother was, but like my dad just figured out ways to make it so that we could all help out and all all be involved.

And I'm sitting there like, Nolan, go inside, go with your sister, go do this because I'm trying to get this done and it's not easy. And you push this pole over and,

you know, I'm trying to pour concrete and mix it and put it in there. I had to put like 5 bags of

concrete in the fricking hole. So it's like mixing one bag at a

time. And yeah, I just, I don't know,

like I, I feel like he, he just did a good job of, of figuring out a way to make it work right. And yeah, I, my little brother

and I think he liked us all the same.

You know, it's funny though, like sometimes of course wonder if he just does things with me because I do them differently.

Like I, I went up to go visit them a couple weeks ago and I was like, hey, I'm coming up there, but I don't want to like every time I go up there, I got to help him do something which I don't mind doing, but I'll. Put you to work right?

And I want to, I want to help him.

I don't mind doing that, but I also want him to go screw off with me. Like I want him to go golfing

with me because they live on a damn golf course.

It's beautiful. And I'm like, let's go golfing.

And I knew when I asked him to do that, he would do it.

But he was going to, he was only going to want to play nine holes. And I want to play 18.

And I just, I was just happy to get the nine holes.

You know, like that was kind of where it was at.

It was like if I play golf, I want to play 18 just because it's it's a good time and I don't want to continue to do that. But I got to play nine holes

with him. We had good conversation when

you do that. I mean, I think that's the real

big thing. I don't know if.

You. It's, it's the fellowship or the

talk or the whatever, like interacting with someone and being able to spend some time with him and he does it for me and, and I do it for him. Like I had helped him that day.

I was like, well, you know, he's got a storage unit he had to move some stuff out of and it helped him get it done twice as fast because he had two people helping him and, and then we went golfing. So it's kind of a give and take

thing, but I think when I was younger it was more of a take on my part and not a. Gift Yeah.

And I think that's part of being a father, right, Is, you know, you make those extra sacrifices for the kids when you can.

You know, I think I mentioned before in the past that I spent a lot of the kids time through school away from them because as you know, I would travel all the time and I was only home 2 1/2 days a week for many years. Yeah.

And you know, even my daughter said she wished that I would have been home more. You know, she told me that I

think last year, the year before we started talking about it because I'm at the point, like I don't really, I have conversations with the kids and we spend, I mean, you know, we spend a lot of time with them, but I don't really have any of those golf course conversations with either of them.

I I think Marcelo, the oldest we have, we take those opportunities and we have more conversation now than ever.

But you know, my wife still gets all that stuff.

But I, I'll tell you a funny story in this.

We're probably I mean, I'm glad you're sitting down.

We'll put it this way, OK, Because this.

Is going to be good. You know, we're recording this

on on Saturday, the day before Father's Day.

And up to this point, neither kid has said, hey, dad, what do you want for Father's Day? Nor have they probably asked my

wife. And earlier she goes, oh, oh,

shit. Tomorrow's Father's Day.

I go, yeah, it sure is. You know, So, I mean, she'd

asked me what I wanted a couple weeks ago.

And I found a couple things, you know, one of the things I bought myself because I'm impatient and it's very specific, a head unit for the Z. And then I said I wanted

basketball shoes because I'm starting to go to the gym more and I just have Ultra Boost, which are not basketball shoes.

And so I picked out a couple pair that weren't expensive.

And so she bought me once. I already know that that's what

I'm getting from her. But you know, it's like, what do

you want to do? It's like, I don't know.

I mean, I just assume where we're going to be cooking out and not doing much because you know, around here Mother's Day is always the bigger thing, right?

Because my mother-in-law lives here.

Jaylene's a mom, Yvette's a mom, and it's just this entire day of festivities. It's damn near like Easter,

where everyone's just here all the time.

So I've pretty much decided that that's what we're doing.

But, you know, I'm thinking back to prior years.

I'm cooking or someone else's cooking.

It's never a big deal, you know? And I go back to the the Chris

Rock thing where everything's about your mother and make sure you tell your mother you love her.

You know that, You know that skit.

Yeah, you know, and and all we get is a big piece of chicken.

I know that's what I was thinking about.

It's like I was thinking about this.

I feel like we have this conversation every year.

So I'm trying to decide which year it is that we're talking about because it is like, I feel like you kind of get skipped over. I think last year they didn't

even remember or the year before I can't remember their like you didn't even get your Father's Day gift until like.

Two weeks after you. Returned from wherever you were

at, yeah. My daughter gave me one, my son

didn't give me one like 2 years ago.

And I don't know what the deal was with that.

He's not a, he's kind of an asshole, but he's not.

So I don't think that was intentional.

You know, he may have been moving or relocating, just had a lot of stuff and then, and I don't fucking care, you know, but as long as you told me, Happy Father's Day, I'll probably get by default more booze, which honestly, I don't actually want. Yeah, you're getting overloaded.

Yeah, I, I just don't, but I'll take it.

I'm never going to say no if you buy me a bottle of booze, but it'd be nice to reach out and be like, hey, Dad, what do you want for Father's Day? Because there's a ton of stuff

that I kind of want. You know, I could see my son

surprising me with like some wheel locks for the Z because I've been talking about that for a bit and I still haven't pulled the trigger on him. But yeah, I'll probably get

alcohol. Do you need wheel locks for the

ZI? Have some very rare Japanese

wheels. BBS is a is a really popular

brand as well. They're a size that fits.

I mean, they're a 5 by 114 three lug pattern, You know, they could fit on a lot of cars. So, you know, I don't really

take it out, but when I do, like, no one's going to steal your wheels at Costco. But if you ever go out somewhere

and you're inside too long, someone could steal your wheels, you know? So I think it's just a good idea

just in case. Yeah, and that's a super.

That's a super. Cow or something, you know?

Bolt pattern 'cause that's, I think that's the same as like what a civic takes. So, you know, yeah.

Exactly. Work Acura's.

You know, a lot of the K cars are 4 by 100, but this just happens to be a 5 by 114. Yeah.

And. And so, yeah.

So, you know, Father's Day is Father's Day.

It's never that big of a deal, but this is little things.

We don't want these huge parties thrown for us, right?

But at the same time, it would be nice, you know, because we're not. No one's bringing us flowers

like Mother's Day. My entire house is just filled

with flowers because there's so many Mamas, there's so many siblings and sister in laws and so everybody thinks they have to bring flowers to the house. Plus, again, my mother-in-law

lives here. But Father's Day as of right

now, recording this the day before, I don't know what's going on tomorrow. Yeah, for me, it's a little bit

different. You know, my wife is pretty good

about making sure that I get what I want.

Like I told you, like she's hey, did you make a tee time?

Like she every every year it's like you should go golfing.

But every year when we do something she wants to, this is the difference between me and her is like she wants to do something with the kids. I want to get away from the

kids. You know, it's like this is, or

that's the way she sees it. She's like, you go golfing, I'll

take care of the kids or whatever, you know, like, and, and this time I'm just like, you know what, let's just go.

I, I don't really, I'll probably get up in the morning and spray some weeds because I got a, you know, obviously we got the three acres and it's kind of nuts and I need to spray weeds.

Like if I don't, if I take a weekend off of doing any work, we're screwed. And like, it compounds itself.

So I'll probably jump out and go do that.

You know, she's working today. So watching the kids is a little

problematic when you're trying to do stuff.

But I think I think you should go out.

Do you guys just ever go out as a family for Father's Day, just the four of you? Yeah, that's what we're going to

do. So.

Like, Tatum's 11 now, right? And so, you know, I think it's

important for her to see and start developing those memories because Nolan doesn't give a shit, dude.

He's freaking 3. Yeah, he don't care.

So was Christine kind of freaking out when she weren't doing a tee time and she was panicking like, oh shit, what do I do? This was like the go to and the

go to isn't going. Well, it was pretty easy because

all I said was let's just go out to Konigs, you know, like let's go out there because they, they have and call it Silo Saturday, Silo Sunday or whatever. Like you can go out there and

you can sit down. They have a food truck, they

have the craft lounge out there, they'll make you cocktails.

They have some live music. The distillery's kind of a

really cool setting. You know, I think Andy talked

about it a little bit when he was on one drink Wednesday.

But and I, I'm actually, I need to reach out to him 'cause I'm going to have him sit down right here with me and do an actual interview with him. You should, yeah.

I'm going to for sure. I just need to, I want to see if

he's there tomorrow. I don't know if he will be, you

know, but yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of a cool thing.

They do it every weekend and like, it's just a fun setting.

You just go out there, you sit down, it's on a, it's out on, they call it Sunny slope out in the edge of the river.

And at their distillery, they have a barrel house.

They have all kinds of cool stuff sitting out there.

I'll try to shoot some pictures of them to you.

I think I've sent you pictures of the barrel house before.

But like, it's, it's kind of a neat little thing that you can do on Saturday or Sunday if you want.

And I just said, let's go do that.

And she was like, yeah, like she was looking for something to do, obviously. And and that's perfect.

She's like, we'll just go. It starts at noon.

That's the only tough part. And you know, like Nolan's, I

just put Nolan down for a nap before we jumped on and that's really his nap time. But he'll be fine, you know?

Well, I hope you have a a great Father's Day.

I know I'll hear all about it and I whatever we do here, it's going to be fine. No expectation.

The kids are going to come over most likely and we'll do stuff.

We it's just always more low key for Father's Day, which is fine.

But yeah, man, I'll talk to you on the other side of it.

Thanks. I did want to say like I won't

be interested to see how it is this year because Cello is now a father. And since he is, is he going to

have a different outlook on it being a dad and knowing that you're his dad? And then also how's your wife

going to navigate that? Because we know how that

relationship is. So that that'll be interesting

to see. I look forward to hearing that

too. Yeah, his first Father's Day.

It's a good point. That'll be great.

So me too. You know me too well, I hope.

You have a great one too, man. Thank you.

Drew Bunkley, welcome back to the podcast.

It looks like you just got back from a trip doing some Corvette stuff. Tell us about it.

Hey Jay, yeah, I had a great time.

Man was out in Pahrump, NV out at Spring Mountain Raceway.

They as home of the Corvette, the Ron Fellows Corvette Drive and Performance School. So had a great time.

I drove the E ray did the ZO6 a couple years ago and the Stingray before that. Did they tell me about the the

the E Ray? Because you'd uploaded a video

that people would go to and watch.

It looked like you had a lot of fun, but I forgot what you texted me. But there's something so crazy.

I go. I got to get you back on the

show. Oh yeah.

So when I was driving on the track, happened 2 times, I got a call from OnStar. Yeah, that's, you know, they,

they thought there was an accident in the vehicle.

And The funny thing is, I did go off the track one time and they didn't call. So explain what that is.

I mean, we all know what OnStar is, but did it?

Were you going so fast? I thought maybe you fell off of

something or you came to an abrupt stop or what happened there? No, no stops at all.

So what I think it was, I think maybe coming so they have a, the way their track was set up, there's this one area where it has like a dip. So essentially the car can

almost get airborne if you take it the wrong way.

You can come off the wheels, the wheel come off the the pavement a little bit. And then obviously when you're

taking certain turns are going over, they have the outlines of the cones and the curves where you're supposed to take your lines at. So when you're going over, it's

real bumpy. I don't know what they call it,

but I think what happened was, I think I triggered the vehicle and it may be a wheel or maybe 2 went off the pavement.

And I think that might have triggered the OnStar call.

And in case people don't know, if you're in a vehicle, if you're in that GM vehicle and you're in an accident, the vehicle will automatically call OnStar to make sure you're OK if they need to send out emergency assistance.

So it's a really good service. You know, I've heard, you know

what, I think I've heard of something like that before where maybe you have to disable it before you get on and then maybe do they forget to disable it? I've heard something like that

before when you're on a track with a vehicle that has that type of detection. Yeah, they didn't make any

reference of it. I did mention it to the

instructors and they just said that they would check the car out. So I've been to the track three

times, never had an incident like that, never had really heard of it. I think they did mention that it

has happened before, so you know, it's just maybe the calibration of the system. So what was it like to drive the

E Ray and compare that because you've driven the ZO6, you've driven just the regular Stingray and the E Ray, a lot of different cars, but just in comparing the 3C eights so far that you've driven? Yeah.

So it's it's pretty much right there in the line up the way it sits, you know, you have the base Stingray.

Then the E Ray uses that same vehicle with the all-wheel drive system, which gives it about 125 horsepower to the front wheels somewhere around there, maybe a little bit more, gives a total of 655 horsepower. And then the ZO6 with the

naturally aspirated engine, same way on the track, it's in the same way the E Ray falls falls short than this from the ZO6 but the ZO6. Is a track focus car.

The E Ray does great, but it has that regenerative charging system for the front wheel, so it will deplete when you're on the trap. So you have to know, you know,

if you're using it and you're doing a lot of track, you got to kind of know when to hit it so it'll recharge.

But when you're just trying to concentrate on what you're doing, you know you're not thinking about trying to hit a button to regenerate. So you have to hit a button

usually. That's wild, man.

So how did you go off the track? Just took a curve.

It wasn't it was minor, just kind of I when I stopped just came right to the edge of the track, but nothing major.

We pulled right out, got back on the track, went around.

So it was fun, had a great timing and the car is definitely different because of the all-wheel drive.

You know, when you're taking curves, when you can go in a little harder, you got to know when to come off the brake, you got to know when to ride in the turn.

So it's a lot of lessons, man. And it's really, I'm really

grateful and fortunate to be able to take classes like that, that GM offers to really let people know how much performance you can get out of these vehicles.

Right. I think you were telling me the

price and it was pretty reasonable.

It was a 2 day course. Yeah.

So it's $1000 if you purchase a brand new Corvette or black wing they give you 2 days instruction on class and on track.

You get one night free at their resort and you can pay for an extra night. So I do the two nights I pay for

the extra night. That way I come in came in

Sunday, track day was Monday, Tuesday and then you go to about 4:00 on Tuesday are. You excited about the ZR1?

Am I excited, man? The exciting part is that

America man is right now just pushing it with these American V eights in these cars, man. I'm so it, it's really, I'm

really excited because General Motors is not only able to compete with the the big boys, the exotics, but right now they're able to take it to another level where they seem to be the ones that people are going to have to compete against. Yeah, that thing, I saw it at

Barrett Jackson and that is an amazing looking vehicle.

And now that the numbers are out and it's going around the big famous ring and breaking all these records, it's I wonder what's what it's going to be like after it's been out for a little while. You know, how are people going

to look at them? Because people have always, I

think they've always liked the ZR ones for what they are.

And I think this one might finally break that mold of being like, oh, that's really cool for a Corvette.

And it's like, no, that's just cool.

And with all these influencers and these like the car influencers, I'll say the ones that are like really into Motorsports that they don't care if it's a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or ZR1 or a GTD. They just want something really

cool that's awesome and has some, some fantastic engineering to it. I think I'm starting to see a

lot more of them gravitate to this platform and specifically the ZR1. So I'm kind of excited to see

when out in the street because The thing is, The thing is visibly wider. It's bigger than AZO 6.

Actually it's not as far as AZO 6, it's the actual the wide the the width of the vehicles. It's the same platform,

different hood with the air intake, different wheels, different spoiler. But body wise it's it's the same

size. I believe also the same size

tires. But you know what's amazing

about this car is that they're not finished with it and they're talking about taking this the C8 platform out for a while.

Normally we're anticipating the C9 coming up, but they're not done with it. They're probably going to have

one or two more platforms and because they've put so much money into this, this platform and the C 8 is probably going to be around for at least another four to five years.

So you so you're saying there's no difference in the dimension of the car itself excluding like the a giant spoiler?

So I know the intake on the side is a completely different intake. It looks the same, but it's

bigger. Yeah, the side.

So they have a brake, they have an intake to cool the brakes, but no, yeah, the body, the size, I, you know, I'm not going to say 100%, but I am 95% sure that is the same.

It's the same width, same length, same body, just some different panels for air intake. Yeah, the panels are bigger.

Yeah, for sure. And you can see it when you're

up on the ZR1. It's it's it looks fatter for

sure than like a than a 06. But it could just be the way

they they styled it, you know? Yeah, it's menacing man, for

sure. And you know, it's funny because

this car being as quick as it is and being as powerful it is, you know, I've always been talking about the Zorro that's coming.

You know, you add all-wheel drive to that and you already see, you know, a lot of companies have like Harity, they did that video where they did the Ferrari and the Lamborghini and the Corvette where that ZR1 actually had to come back to go past the Lamborghini with that all-wheel drive system.

And it's not going to be any, it won't be any questions.

This is going to be a phenomenal car.

Explain to us, and I think you did this one of the last times you were on, but the Zora explain to us what?

What is that? So essentially what they did is

the Zora is projected to be essentially the E Ray to the Stingray is going to be to the ZR1.

So they're going to use that front wheel drive electric motor which was designed for this car. It's going to be now in the ZR1

to be their ultimate top performing all-wheel drive vehicle. And that's kind of the the same

front wheel motors that they stole from the NSX, isn't it?

Yeah, I guess they took a little bit of some nice design.

They didn't steal nothing. It was a, it was a

collaboration. You know, that was just kind of

a jab. Hey, they, they, they say they

took the Ferrari motor. You know the four.

What was that? The not the 488, but the one

before that, their flat plane crank.

Absolutely. You got anything else for us?

Hey, Jay. I appreciate it, man.

That's about it, man. How you doing?

I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Just trying to get all this

stuff done, you know, get through this car news section and and look forward to some new models and new cars that are coming out here. All right, trying to trying to

keep keep tabs on all the car news out there.

What do you think of the million?

I think one point something million that Ford had to recall like a software program software issue.

Yeah, you hear about the the issues with the the Dodge.

You know, they cancelled the their new Charger and they're having issues with acceleration stuff.

That was a bad junk for them. Yeah, one thing I'll say about

that is I, I see that I don't, I don't know, I don't want to say if it's Motor Trend or one of the main, you know, outlets that are talking about it. So again, I don't remember if

it's Motor Trend or not, but they keep blaming the charger, the poor sales in the future on these tariffs and 3500 of these things are sitting on lots way before the tariffs even hit.

The bottom line is it's a $70,000 EV charger that nobody wants for the price. You can blame future production

on tariffs, but you're not selling what you have.

Yeah, the the first thing was the price range.

I mean, people bought Dodges because they were inexpensive cars that had huge V eights in them.

You know, I mean, they don't they're not a top tier luxury $70,000, you know, brand to come out with a car like that at at the gate was definitely something that hurt them.

I mean, they actually obviously discontinued on the models and they're not selling the any the ones that they have out now and they're dropping the new V8. They just announced they're

going to be dropping the V8 in that car.

So you had to start with. And and you know,

electrification isn't cheap, I get it.

But I think, and a lot of people say the same thing about the NSX, that they came out swinging with a higher price tag.

But I can defend that all day with the NSX.

I can't really defend it with the Charger RT, the starter model too, because a better one was supposed to come out, right.

Yep. All right, Drew, thanks as

always for supporting the show and jumping on in the last minute to talk about Corvette and a few other random things.

Hey, appreciate it. Thanks for giving me a call and

until next time, enjoy the ride next time.

So Autoblog has an article about Jaguar sales dropping.

I think I saw somebody else post the Jaguar sales have dropped by 98% and they are actively searching for a new marketing company. And so I decided to look into

that and it's a little misleading.

So what the article was saying on Autoblog is as of April of 2025, sales are down 98 percent, 97.5% from April of 2024.

Big difference. When I asked Grok to look up the

statistics, I said, hey Grok, how have Jaguars global sales been over the last seven years? This is what Grok told me.

It looks like in 2024 they sold 84,900 units globally.

Not a lot of cars, but it's actually up at this point in 2025. It says in 2024 approximately

84,900 units were sold, which was an increase from 2023.

So right now sales are behind 2024's pace, but you can't really say that their sales have decreased by 97.5% without

double clicking into the data. And that's just as of April.

So last year's April sales compared to this, it's not even whole year. It's 2024's April sales compared

to 2025's April sales. 97.5% is a lot.

But let's say you only sold 20 cars last year, right?

You sold maybe one or two this year.

It's a big dip. According to Electric dot Co,

Amazon is going to test their humanoid robots to deliver packages with the Rivian electric vans.

A few years ago the EV automaker Rivian had a huge contract with Amazon to produce 100 and 1000 something units.

Which is probably great for Rivian because their consumer sales. They lose money apparently on

every single vehicle. I am concerned about this.

Over 20,000 Rivian electric vans are currently used to deliver Amazon packages right now. I think they are and I'm going

to post the link. You can kind of read through it.

They're they're using humanoids in one of the Amazon factories to package stuff. Now this is this is where I come

in with some concern. I don't think the robots are

going to take over like Skynet and they wheel through automation. AI take a lot of our jobs, but

think about being an Amazon driver today.

That didn't exist 10 years ago. That's how a lot of people make

their main money inside money. It's just like Uber and Lyft.

You have these cyber cabs right around the corner.

We have Waymo's here. Speaking of Waymo's peaceful

protests, 545 Waymo's were lit on fire in LA and then Waymo's like, uh huh. We're done serving, serving this

area and we sure as hell aren't going to serve on No King's Day.

What did the Waymo's do to anybody?

That's those anarchists that I said earlier that have nothing to do with the actual protest. They just want to burn shit.

But anyway, I digress. So you have the Waymos, which

don't have a real driver, but they are guided by somebody off site, kind of like a drone operator, I guess sort of.

Then you have the Tesla cyber cabs that are right around the corner. Then you have the Humanoid and

the Tesla robot. But I would say that there

there's a lot of people who make their money delivering packages.

What about those jobs in the warehouse?

I used to work at a warehouse called Athletic Supply.

It was one of the first jobs I had and I was AI don't know what they call it, product picker. The orders would come in, we'd

pick up the pages, we'd look and we'd basically go shopping.

It's just like the people at the grocery store when you order groceries and you pick them up, they get a print out and they walk up and down. They pick the items, they put

them in a little baggie where they put them in a little cart that has your name on it. So then when you show up and

tell them what space you're in, someone pushes the cart out there and gives you your groceries.

Who's going to do that? The robots, fine, but those are

jobs. Those are jobs.

So that's the issue I have with this.

I don't want to fear Margaret, but that's just a rational thought about this process. I get robots doing things that

are maybe dangerous. Bomb diffusion, going to a

volcano and collecting the magma, the volcanic stuff, and otherwise very dangerous. A volcanologist is a very

dangerous job. You can send a robot out there

without putting someone's life in danger, but I don't know about this. Finally, according to

reuters.com, a burning cargo ship carrying 3000 vehicles

abandoned off the coast of Alaska.

This article is June 5th of 2025.

A crew of a cargo ship carrying around 3000 vehicles, including 800 electric vehicles, abandoned it off the coast of Alaska after a fire broke out on board. All 22 crew members were safely

evacuated. They tried to put out the fire.

I'm telling you, based on what we know, if one electric car caught on fire, it's a wrap. There's no putting out those

fires. 3000 cars. I think this is maybe the second

or third boat that sank with many vehicles on it in the last few years. That's wild.

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