That Car Show Oct 2, 2025

On the Scent of Hagerty’s Trent Abbott

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Porsche 356

The Porsche 356 is an early sports car made by Porsche. It's popular for its classic design and great driving experience, and many people love to collect them.

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Jaguar XK150

The Jaguar XK150 is a stylish sports car made by Jaguar, popular in the late 1950s. It has a powerful engine and is considered a classic car today.

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Mercedes CLA

The Mercedes CLA is a small luxury car known for its stylish looks and comfortable interior. It's a good choice for those who want a premium feel without a larger car.

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The Mercedes-Benz SL is a fancy convertible car that's been around for a long time, known for being both stylish and comfortable to drive. The 300 SL model is especially famous because of its unique doors that open upwards.

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Mercedes-Benz 300 SL

The Mercedes-Benz 300 SL is a famous old sports car with unique doors that open upwards. It's very valuable and loved by car fans.

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De Tomaso Pantera

The De Tomaso Pantera is a sports car made in the early 1970s. It has a powerful engine and a unique look, blending Italian design with American performance.

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Porsche 928

The Porsche 928 is a sporty car made by Porsche that was built from the late 1970s to the mid-1990s. It has a unique design and is known for being a comfortable and powerful car.

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International Harvester Scout II

The International Harvester Scout II is an old SUV that was built for tough terrains and outdoor adventures. It has a unique design and was one of the first vehicles that allowed you to take the roof off for an open-air experience.

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International Harvester Scout

The Scout is a type of vehicle made by International Harvester, known for being tough and good for off-roading. It was made a long time ago and is considered a classic now.

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International Scout

The International Scout is an older SUV that was made from the 1960s to the 1980s. It's known for being tough and good for driving on rough terrain, as well as for everyday use.

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suspension

Suspension is the part of a car that helps it ride smoothly over bumps and uneven ground. It includes springs and shock absorbers that keep the car stable and comfortable.

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Copper State Overland

Copper State Overland is a fun driving event where people take their cars on a scenic road trip. It's a chance to enjoy beautiful views and meet other car lovers along the way.

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International Harvester Scout 80

The Scout 80 is an old SUV made by International Harvester. It's popular among car lovers because it's tough and can be used for off-road driving.

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Ford Broncos

The Ford Bronco is a type of SUV that is popular for off-roading and outdoor adventures. It's known for being tough and reliable, making it a favorite among people who love to explore nature.

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BMW 320i

The BMW 320i is a smaller luxury car that offers a sporty feel and comfortable ride. It's well-liked for its performance and stylish design.

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BMW 320Is

The BMW 3 Series is a small luxury car that has been popular for many years because it drives really well and feels nice inside. The 320i is one of the versions that many people like for its good mix of speed and fuel economy.

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four-wheel drive

Four-wheel drive means that power goes to all four wheels of a vehicle, which helps it grip the road better, especially in rough or slippery conditions.

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Porsche 911

The Porsche 911 SC is a type of sports car made by Porsche. It was built between 1978 and 1983 and is known for being fun to drive and reliable.

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Luft events

Luft events are special gatherings for fans of Porsche cars, especially older models. People come together to show off their cars, meet others who love Porsches, and enjoy the atmosphere.

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barn find

A 'barn find' is when someone finds an old car that has been hidden away for a long time, usually in a barn. These cars can be special because they might be rare or have interesting histories.

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Cal Mille

The Cal Mille is a fun car rally in California where people drive classic cars on beautiful roads. It's like a race, but it's more about enjoying the drive and the scenery.

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Aston Martin DB5

The Aston Martin DB5 is a classic luxury car that is well-known for being in James Bond movies. It's stylish and has a strong engine, making it a desirable car for collectors.

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Monteverdi High SS

The Monteverdi High SS is a rare sports car made in Switzerland during the 1970s. It's known for being luxurious and fast, making it special among car collectors.

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Dacia Logans

The Dacia Logan is a budget-friendly car that is popular in Europe because it's cheap to buy and run. It's a simple, practical car that's great for people who want something reliable without spending a lot.

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Ford Rancheros

The Ford Ranchero is a type of vehicle that looks like a car but has a truck bed in the back, making it useful for carrying things. It was made a long time ago and is a cool mix of both styles.

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Chrysler Pt Cruisers

The Chrysler PT Cruiser is a small car that looks a bit like older cars from the past. It was made from 2000 to 2010 and is known for its fun design and practical use.

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Ford Mustang

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Chevrolet Camaro

The Chevrolet Camaro is a well-known sports car that competes with the Ford Mustang. It's recognized for its powerful engines and sleek looks.

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Chrysler Prowler

The Chrysler Prowler is a unique sports car made between 1997 and 2002. It has a very eye-catching design with its front wheels visible, making it stand out from other cars.

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I am no Pat Long.

Not as good behind the wheel as Pat Long.

Pat's about as big as my thigh.

Tonight on that car show, the other Oracle of Omaha,

Hagrid's Trent Abbott joins us to shoot the breeze,

share stories, and discuss all things automotive.

Trent is a true car enthusiast,

rally participant extraordinaire,

and unintentional pied piper.

From founding a fraternity to rallying appreciation

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Hey, it's that car show,

and tonight we've got our buddy Trent Abbott joining us.

If you've been to Car Week or the Colorado Grand

or any big time automotive event really,

you've probably seen Trent.

You might know him for his snake head cowboy hat

and black framed glasses,

or as the founder of a super secret driver's fraternity

that I have yet to get the tap on the shoulder for.

I've gotten to know Trent on the Colorado Grand,

but I think Trent's done just about every other

automotive event in the world there is to do as well,

including the Cal Mealy, the Copper State 1000,

the Meal Mealy, I think you've done all those,

and probably some other super exclusive stuff

that Lindsay and I don't even know about.

Trent's got an amazing Porsche 356

with just the right amount of patina

and he's driven that in the Grand,

but I know he's got some other cool stuff

hiding in the garage as well.

In Trent's role at Hagerty,

Vice President of Global Development,

let's call it the really high net worth folks,

I can guarantee you that Trent's seen some shit.

Discretion is the better part of Valor of course though,

so discreet we will remain,

but I know that we'll get some really good stories

out of the guy just the same.

I don't know about you Lindsay,

but I've got my bourbon, I've got my cigar,

so let's get into it, what's up buddy?

Dude, I am just happy to be here with you guys.

It's good to see you.

Long time listener, first time caller.

That's what we like to hear, that's what we like to hear.

I think that sums Trent up really well.

Hey guys, I'm just here,

I'm just trying to have a good time,

but we're so happy you're here, so good to see you.

Yeah, it's a pleasure,

it's an opportunity to spend the evening

talking about the hobby that we all care so much about

and more than that,

the people that we all get to spend time with,

your present company included,

and Lindsay, you've known each other for a few years now

on a chance meeting on a, what was that,

a Wednesday lunch followed up

by a Saturday cars and coffee at a finish line,

and yeah, it's been a lot of fun to know you as well.

That's true, that was the first time we hung out in person

because we had had a call when I first started at Hagerty,

and I'll never forget because you started the call saying,

how can I make your day better?

And I was like, say less, like, yeah.

But you're right.

We met at the Culver City Garage and Social

with our friend John Nickis,

and then that evolved into,

okay, and we're meeting in Huntington at 5.30,

and then we're going to finish line,

but then between Friday night and Saturday morning

when I got to Huntington pre-dawn,

you're like, by the way, there's a third event,

and then I went back up to Culver City,

and by the time I got to Culver City at 10 a.m.,

that was my fourth event.

Yeah, yeah, it's, is SoCal not the best place

on the planet for automotive shenanigans

of all flavors, like, God, I feel so blessed

to be embraced by that community,

and all walks of life in that automotive space,

starting out with, you know, the 5 a.m. Dillnet derelicts

and moving on down towards Laguna,

and then back from Laguna back to Huntington

to try and hit everything.

It is such a hot bed.

It's almost as good as Omaha and Nebraska where I met.

Almost.

It gives Omaha a run for its money,

and, you know, when SoCal grows up,

it wants to be Omaha.

One of these days, I'll figure it out

and realize that they need to work out some things

to be just like us.

It's good.

That was a lot of fun.

Without a doubt, I knew I had a fast friend in Lindsey,

and you and I have danced around each other

for a few years now,

and finally kind of landed it this year

when a particular Jag XK150 on the Colorado Grand

had a Lucas electric problem, right?

Not that that would ever happen, but yeah.

This sounds like fake news, guys.

Come on.

Ken On's car had a little failure to launch on a morning,

and I called Ryan and crew and said,

need to get back down to Vail today.

We need one of those Mercedes,

and I think I convinced the two of you boys

to hop in the car and ride with it.

That's amazing.

For everybody.

If you've never ridden in the rear seat of a CLA,

is that a 53, whatever the AMG version,

it doesn't really matter.

Mercedes CLA, it's not a big space,

but we survived and it was really nice

having lunch with both you and Ken.

So Ken, we should mention is the president of Broadarrow.

Correct.

It was his first grand, is that right?

Correct.

And what's the Jag?

It's an XK...

150.

150, okay.

Hell of a car.

Beautiful thing, black.

Cuts quite a profile.

And I think Ran just fine for the first, what, three days?

Yeah, and really all it was was the starter button.

We learned how to hot wire it pretty quick after that,

and then obviously the wonderful grand mechanics came

and threw an extra switch in it for us,

but yeah, that's a really good car.

And most impressively,

if you put Ken on and I standing next to each other,

literally like a sight of beef.

I mean, there is a lot of human there.

And that car had no problem motivating us

through the mountains of Colorado.

It was really a good car.

I was surprised at how good,

and how spacious it was inside.

I'm not used to driving old Jags.

How many grants have you done?

Oh, grants.

I think at this point I've done maybe six.

Okay, okay.

Maybe six.

Yeah.

That's a lot of grants.

Six more than I have.

Yeah, it's been good.

That's a great event.

And the charity that goes with it is incredible

and Colorado roads in the fall

or where those are hard to beat, they really are.

There's a lot of really great events out there

and undoubtedly the grant brings a lot

of the really great hardware and a lot of great people.

Not that the others don't,

but the grant is kind of special

and what it brings out.

And yeah, I love doing these driving tours

and luckily I get to go do that for a living.

What is it about the grant that makes it so special?

I mean, I think it is the quality of the cars.

It is the roads.

I think it's the people, right?

And it's a nonprofit too, right?

It's a charity.

So it's like, you know, it's altruistic, right?

Which is kind of nice too, but it is, it's unique.

And Hagerty is a longtime sponsor, as you know,

which is appreciated.

No, it's, you know, I think with that event,

it's kind of the grandfather of all of the,

and I don't want to make it sound uncool

by calling it the grandfather.

But it is, it's kind of, maybe it's the patriarch.

Maybe we call it the patriarch of the collector car rally

community out there.

And you know, the crew that's in charge of that

does such a nice job, so thoughtful.

The route book is so good.

The hotels are well thought out.

The lunch stops are the most quaint thing on the planet.

I think the lunch stops might be one of the best parts

of the event.

You know, you go roll into small town Colorado

and hand out a bunch of scholarship money to some kids.

And by God, it's the same kids

that are actually serving you lunch.

Yeah.

That's pretty special.

At the end of the lunch with the local live entertainment

and the great, like it's incredible.

And it's a, you know, it's a pinch yourself moment

when you leave town, you feel like a stinking hero

just for driving a little part of the community.

And then you go rip down the back road

to the next town for coffee.

I mean, it's, it's special.

And, you know, the grand was really the first one in

and Copper State's been doing a long time.

Obviously, I have a tremendous affinity

for the Copper Stepping.

I've done that 15 times.

Wow.

And then the California melee, obviously,

Hagerty owns that now.

Yeah.

Right.

You want to talk about a man, a really high brow,

well organized.

You know, it was a great event when the Swigs had it.

Nothing against the Swigs, man.

They had something special.

When you think about the grand

and these great sweeping Vistas that go on forever,

then he hit some switchbacks.

Well, California, I never knew this

until I started driving this event,

but those roads are so tight.

They're so, they're so full of switchbacks.

You don't have as much long sweeping Vistas.

At the end of a thousand miles,

you feel like you did something.

Your shoulders are reminding you

that you did all the switchbacks.

And Hagerty's, I think everybody would say,

you know, Hagerty's really elevated that event

in that, you know, Hagerty has a long history of events

and so hotels, food and beverage,

it's really, really, really elevated.

And we're really proud of it.

I'm really proud of it.

So to have all these events that,

you know, that we get to participate in

and see all of your friends,

I mean, the events are great,

but it's the people.

It's the people, it's the people,

like we're so, so very fortunate to spend time

with some of the most interesting people

in the world doing the events.

I mean, who else gets to do that?

Yeah, yeah, some fascinating people on these events,

for sure, some amazing conversations and all that.

And you have done the meal, Melia, am I wrong?

No, I have.

Oh, I just assumed you had, so, okay.

I can edit that out of that.

No, it's fine.

I've been invited a few times.

I get to find the time to do it.

I have a standing, really cool invitation

by a friend of mine that's a 300 SL mechanic.

He happens to own his own car.

He really wants to go do this.

We just kind of got to figure it out.

But I tell ya, if I can go run the Melia in Italy

in a 300 SL goalie with a guy that knows how to fix it.

Yes, yes, yeah.

And he's not a jerk.

Like, it's even better.

He's a really cool dude.

So I think if I can get that one landed,

that would be great.

But yeah, I'm fortunate that the job

that I've been takes me to Europe a bit.

So I get at least some taste into some of those things

and some, you know, look behind the scenes

in a lot of events in Europe.

Or their passion there too.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, and I think you and I have been lucky.

Like, we have a lot of mutual friends

on the Hagerty events team.

So especially stuff like the Cal Miele.

Not only are you getting to see your friends

that you're driving with,

you get to see your friends

that are actually running the event.

Like, we had Logan on the show

and then like our good friend,

you know, we have to say hi to Hillary, of course.

Oh.

You know, they just, we love Hillary.

She's the best.

She's like my kid's sister.

I know, she's absolutely the best.

But they just, you know,

the whole team does such an amazing job.

So yeah, it's always amazing to see the pictures.

Yeah.

Have you always been a car guy?

Like, does this go back to when you were a kid?

Did you grow up in a car family?

Or what was the genesis of all this?

Because I mean, it's your life.

I mean, you live in the dream

and you're doing all these events,

but where did this start?

Yeah, Ryan.

Yeah, I think I was, I think I was born with it.

I don't want to like,

I don't want to go through the whole tear-jerker story here,

but I don't want to.

So I was.

It gets the ratings, the tears.

Come on.

Come on, drum them up.

Let me, let me work on it.

Right.

I can't think of myself.

You can bring the iDrops in if you need.

When I was, when I was born,

my father had a 1971 De Tommaso Pantera.

Oh, really?

And, and my, my biological father was afflicted.

Like this guy was absolutely afflicted by,

by the automobile my entire life.

So growing up with, you know, around him,

he always had, you know,

he had this Pantera from the time I was born

in the mid-70s up until the early 80s.

And, you know, it was my folks divorced.

And after they divorced, he did the natural thing.

We were in Western Nebraska,

like small town Western Nebraska, ranch country.

He decides he's going to go to Denver

and open a Pantera specialty shop.

What could possibly go wrong?

As one does.

Right.

So, so it might not have been a great business move on his,

but we'll never forget going to visit,

you know, my father in Denver.

Like there were pretty cool days that, you know,

we didn't stay at his apartment, obviously.

We had to stay at a hotel.

Okay.

And then, and then he would take us to the shop

and all you would smell was like high-test fuel and rubber

because they were throwing huge beads on these cars.

So they were, you know,

bouncing through printing these, you know,

these, you know, Cleveland's and it was, it was,

it was really cool.

We'd go from that straight to Casa Bonita.

Oh, thank God.

Obviously.

Right next to Big Sur Waterton.

In its prime, that's right.

Yeah. Wow. Wow.

Have you been back since they did the whole rebirth

or whatever?

Bill and I do, I'm calling you.

Okay. Please do.

Cause I've never been and, you know, when we moved to Denver,

it was kind of, I guess the nadir of, of the place.

It was kind of in the dumps, you know,

you hear these stories of how they like shoveled out grease

from like the vents and all this stuff.

And, but, but I'm up for going now.

So let's make that happen.

It's now it's clean.

The food is good.

It's hard to get in, you know, as you know.

It'll be great.

I can't wait.

I know it's good.

So we got some, so my, my, my father had that car

until probably seven years old, eight years old.

And that moved into a 928 Porsche.

Okay. Okay.

And he'd always had like a couple of cool cars,

like Jags and whatnot in the mix too.

But like he really, he really fell head over heels

for the 928 when it was brand.

God, as a kid and looking at that car

in the early 80s, it looked like,

I thought it was like the space shuttle.

It still does, right?

It still looks like that.

And he kind of went through this, this progression

of Porsches throughout the next two decades.

And he still has some stuff today.

Anyway, it laid dormant for a while.

And I went to, to, you know, high school

and really didn't care.

Well, middle school didn't care much.

You know, there was nothing in central Nebraska

that was of real interest.

First car I owned, I, I, my mother married

a really, really great guy at my stepfather,

farm implement dealer in central Nebraska.

They met at the height of the ag recession.

He was penniless and the business was,

it was, it was a whole thing.

And I watched them build this business slowly.

And by the time I was 14, I think they had been,

they had been married about a year.

And they had purchased a new, a new building

or a new business out in another town

in central Nebraska, Carney.

And I watched back into their assembly and handling

in building and really build like corn headers

and all this kind of shit.

And I walked back there

and I saw this old international harvest or scout too.

No way.

With, you know, canvas doors and canvas top.

And it was just, you know, slightly,

very ever so slightly factory lifted.

And I about fainted and ran into the building

as fast as I could and found my new stepfather, dad.

And I said, dad, what's the scoop with this, with this scout?

I didn't know what the hell a scout was, but I knew it was cool.

Sure.

And he goes, well, we bought that with the business.

And I obviously said, can I have it?

And he goes, well, yeah, you can, you can have it.

You're going to earn it, but you can have it.

And miraculously, after two years

of working in the business, right?

I ended up with, with this scout.

And that car meant so much, you know,

it started to revitalize the love of automobile.

And it was, it was this just ridiculous car

that you shouldn't have as a daily driver,

canvas doors atop the eater barely worked.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, it was, it just wasn't practical at all.

But for a high school kid, you know,

a super soaker, squirt guns and stuff

and driving it up and glaking back every night,

like, God, we thought we were kings of that.

Yeah, it doesn't get much better than that.

My gosh.

No, and people talk about cars or vehicles

that are agricultural.

I mean, I think that's literally

an agricultural implement, right?

I guess which tracks where you were.

Right.

Hell of a thing.

Yeah.

So we would fast forward some years later.

And, you know, when I was, when I was off to college,

mom and dad gave the car to like my cousin.

And then he, they got it back and they sold it to Texas.

So I was just freaking heartbroken.

Yeah.

So long and short, found another one told,

told my parents, say you guys owe me one here.

Like, I paid for it.

And so we jointly bought another 1978 Super Scout 2-Bah.

And it's much better shape than the ones I had.

Yeah.

Yeah, we, I love that thing.

What makes a scout a Super Scout?

What's, uh...

It was, it was a designation for these.

They were like a special edition scout at the time.

They had, you know, canvas doors, canvas top.

They had skid plates under them.

A little, a little bit more suspension.

Okay.

They have these, they have these snap covers

for the vents in the tops.

You're not like letting all the rain and dirt in.

I mean, it's, it's the dumbest thing ever.

But, but it gets all the eyeball.

You drive that thing around.

Everybody wants to talk to you about it.

Yeah.

Yeah. Of all the stuff I own,

I think that's, that's the one that gets most attention.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, so you still have that one now.

Absolutely.

That's amazing.

That's the only reasonable answer also.

Yeah.

Like that's never going anywhere.

Duh.

Yeah. Yeah.

I've got, I've got a bit of a scout problem.

I've got, I've got that and a 72 that I use

for like the Copper State Overland.

That's just, it's all jacked up and it's, it's ridiculous,

but it's fun and.

That sounds amazing.

It's a good pickup.

Like an old, like a 61 Scout with the pickup top on.

So Scout 80, it's, yeah, I have, I have a real problem, guys.

I mean, there is something about, it's like, you know,

the baby animals that imprint on whatever they see.

Like I was thinking about this with myself.

Like there is something about your first car

that imprints on you and, you know,

I mean, mine is Ford Broncos, but you know.

Yeah. I think.

It is what it is.

I think that there's something, something so visceral

about owning your first vehicle that is so much freedom.

It's, it presents, you know.

Yeah. Everything.

And I had to turn wrenches on that thing.

I had to learn on that vehicle.

And yeah, there's just something

that you'd never forget about that first car.

Right. I mean, freedom is exactly it.

I was thinking, like, I have this sense memory

of driving the Bronco that I learned to drive in

down this main street in the town that I grew up in

in the fall.

So school was back in session,

but it was still really, you know, beautiful weather.

I had the Beach Boys on the radio, the window was down,

and it's like that was the first taste of freedom, really.

Like you summed it up really well.

And that's, you know, if you're lucky

that's your first experience with the car.

So choose wisely parents and children.

Right. Don't get your camera cramped car

Broncos and Scouts are the way to go.

That's right. That's right.

And BMW 320is.

That's another.

Yeah. Well, yes. Absolutely.

Yes. Another solid choice.

It's so interesting.

You know, we.

The people part of the hobby are so important, right?

And I keep harping on that.

But we do, too.

You know, my my my best friends in high school

when they come visit me today and they see this scout.

Yeah, like the first thing out of my office,

we go take it for a ride.

That's the best because for them,

it's the same thing.

They're reliving the same.

I was the guy that had the big dumb truck.

The other guy had, you know, he had a Toyota,

you know, one of the old, what were those from the 80s?

But low four wheel drive Toyota.

The only two of us.

First gen four runner or something.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But just just to pick up and then, you know,

my buddy had like the old EWG station wagon.

We all had we all had our thing.

And I can tell you this, if I if we found, you know,

my buddy Carson's EWG station wagon today,

I'd say immediately we'll go for a ride like this is too good.

Yeah, we kind of spend the rest of our lives chasing that,

don't we? It's yeah, it's do we do.

Heady days, you know, yeah.

So I know you for your three fifty six,

which is this great three fifty six.

I think it is a is it a fifty nine fifty eight fifty eight.

OK, it's got great patina.

I don't know what the story is with that car,

where you found it or whatever.

But it's just like I said in the intro,

it's got just the right amount of like patina and real patina.

Yeah, rocks.

Like what's the story?

Where'd you find that?

God, so our friend, our friend, Logan, Logan,

sir, Logan, Logan has long been friends with Patrick Long.

OK. And, you know,

fanboy right here, big fanboy.

Yeah, for sure.

And I remember watching him race

with what Van Overbeek and crew at Flying Lizard back in the day.

And totally, totally into it at the time,

I owned like a like a 9-11 SC.

It was like the first Porsche I owned.

And yeah, man, it was like right at the height to the Great Recession.

And I was I was all about Porsche.

And then we have this American driver in this in this crazy livery car.

And it's Pat Long. I'm like, this dude's cool.

And I watch, you know, subsequent years of racing.

And Lufth comes out and

think I met Pat briefly at like Lufth, too. OK.

But nothing like he wasn't going to remember me from anyone.

I get this phone call from Logan

and he's like, hey, Trent, Pat Long needs to wants to sell this car.

He's he's got another couple of projects he's working on,

a couple of other cars.

And it's time for him to part company with Wester.

And I was like, I'm familiar with Wester.

I know this car and and you know, this was the car that, you know, I believe.

Patrick Long was most known, you know, to own as a street car.

Lots of photographs with him and at Lufth events.

And it was a car that I think that Lufth won.

He saw and just said, had OK, had this thing.

Really? I believe I believe we're fourth owners here.

It was a barn find by the folks that Pat bought it from.

That's a cool story.

The car was bought from from Wester Volkswagen Porsche

in in Carmel.

And yeah, that's really special.

So that's to have that.

And it still has the original plate frame on it from Wester Volkswagen Porsche.

Anyway, it took European the original guy took European delivery on it.

It's a it's a 58 a coupe with the old goldy, you know,

sunroof on it, the turn slide and still works today.

This thing is, I mean, there's patina.

I said there's patina.

This thing's got a lot of patina.

It's cool. I've I've heard rumor

from Patrick and then subsequently, you know,

you get by a car from like your hero.

And it's pretty amazing to get to become friends.

Anyway, he's he shared stories with me that there were there were some spots

on that car were the painted absolutely worn through.

And he and another portion enthusiast,

Rod Emory got together and they like rattle came a few spots on.

So it's it's it's something.

So the car came to me and and I am I am no Pat long.

I'm not as I have not as good behind the wheel as Pat long.

And the engine that was in it was a bit tired and Pat would agree.

You know, Pat's about as big as my thigh.

And so there's there's our sound bite.

Yeah. And, you know, he can hustle that thing around anywhere.

It doesn't matter what he has.

Like so for me, it was like, geez, I need I need a little bit more

oomph out of this.

I have local mechanics here in town.

You had a you had a pretty nice race engine that he's a lot of

you slap this thing in here to see sold to me at a great price.

So OK, we've got the original engine,

which Pat and I both thought was like a like a not the original

engine of the car.

Well, after some review, it appears that it is the original engine we are.

So I'm kind of happy that's out of it at the moment.

We've got this hotter engine in it that.

See the thing is like unmuffled and I mean, it's.

It sure is a lot of fun.

And I've done, geez, I think I've done.

Four rallies in that car now, 4,000 miles.

Yeah, that's fun.

Did you do the Cal Mille on that one?

Mm hmm. That's right.

OK, I think that's where I remember seeing it last in pictures.

And I love that because Pat Long and Rod Emory rattle

canned it like, I mean, that that's that's OK, right?

Like it adds to it, right?

That adds to the story, it adds to the value.

You probably know this trend, but I got to spend a day with with

Rod in one of his cars on the grand.

And it was pretty amazing.

I mentioned this on the last show, but you don't know what you're getting into.

You're in the car for four or five, six hours with somebody you get along.

I mean, a lot of pressure.

This is Rod Emory, right?

Easiest guy in the world to get along with.

We had a great time.

And obviously he's a shoe.

It was just, I mean, I told Tom, you know, ran from the grand.

I mean, this is an experience we should auction off on the last day.

Right. I mean, I had that experience.

It was fantastic.

And it was a hell of a thing.

And I've been telling everyone I know about it since, but I love that.

You know, it's kind of like the hand of the master, right?

Like it's it's it's OK.

You know, it's yeah.

But again, how nice of a human being.

And it's genuine.

Right. Yeah.

With every excuse not to be and then just super down to earth.

Yeah, just truly another one of those incredibly great

stories, incredibly great beings doing masters of work

in his family history is so cool.

And like, what a what a what a special individual for sure.

Truly, truly, truly.

It's about the people like we always say it really is.

It really is, you know, you've got the three fifty six.

You've got these these scouts.

What else is in your garage?

What else are you into?

Oh, man, I've I've got a Porsche problem.

It seems like it.

Now I sound like Magnus.

Well, I have a Porsche problem.

What's that like?

Neither of us can relate.

But you smell better.

Yeah, but I got that going for me.

I'm going to test it out.

What when when Lindsey Stores, I would have to cut that out.

But when Lindsey Storey heard that you were coming on the show tonight,

I think the first thing out of his mouth was boy, he smells great.

And then it was a twinkle from his eye.

Yeah, I said, you know, I told him trends coming on

and we simultaneously were joking like other than how good you smell.

What else should we do?

I should say when Torrey meant Trent in person,

it was that air water this year.

Yeah.

And it was actually right after Torrey and I started dating

and we got to hang out with Trent.

And after a while, Torrey said, I got to say, you smell amazing.

So what's your secret?

What is it? What do you know?

God, to me, to me, you know,

you could be known as the most interesting man in the world.

But, you know, there's worse things

than like being like the best smelling guy on the farm.

I was going to say, will you settle for best smelling?

Oh, guys, here it is.

Like, here's your freaking sound bite.

Like, like my wife buys me this great cologne

and cat, she's the cobaltist.

And so she she buys me a great cologne

and sends me out into the world and fly, baby bird, fly.

He'll fly away, but you're going to go smell good, baby bird.

You're going to walk to her.

I apparently apparently this scent works well.

And I'm thinking, you know, I've had a lot of I've had some comments

and I know this stuff's great.

Like a little confidence booster.

Yeah, sir. I'm sure all the ladies are paying attention.

And every dude, it's every dude.

All the guys come up and like a tap on the shoulder.

Perfect, freaking strangers tap on the shoulder.

Hey, what fragrance are you wearing?

I'm like, are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

That was the funniest part about the whole thing was like,

I was still dying, laughing, but in the first place.

And then you're like, I get this all the time.

Um, guys.

Yeah, it's always the guys.

Wow.

So I think you knew what she was doing.

Yeah, she did.

My lovely wife knew exactly what she was doing

and said the baby bird out in the world.

It's about all the guys.

It's perfect.

You know, what is it?

What is this, this magical elixir?

It's some Louis Vuitton, something that she buys for me.

And it's yeah, guys dig it.

Like you want to you want to sell some insurance to some folks?

Just do a little spritz.

Yes, just give a little spritz of that.

And all the guys will come lining and you can sell them all.

I think the best part was that there may have been some

Googling after air water and I was told.

I was told with a big disappointment, it's discontinued.

Yeah, you're going to do.

Yeah, the minute I heard this, she went out and she started.

She's going to make sure that all the dudes still like me.

That's a good woman right there.

The market on this magic elixir.

Yeah, if your spouse can find something that only attracts men,

that is exactly the fragrance, right?

That's great.

Like talk about a home run.

I don't I don't need anything else.

I just got to come off the chair.

It's perfect. That's awesome.

I love it. Awesome.

Well, we've talked about Hagerty a little bit.

Can you talk a little bit about what your role at Hagerty is?

Because I know it's a role that's sent you all over the world.

You've seen some amazing collections, met some amazing people.

Again, being discreet.

But what can you share?

Yeah, well, you know, I've I've been in Hagerty for six years.

So it's been a really fast six years.

It's it's blindingly fast.

It seems like I I came from a background in investments.

So as an investment dealer and advisor for 22 years prior to prior

to joining Hagerty and and, you know, cars were always my my advocation.

So I always loved them.

And I realized one morning that life is really short.

I had some friends at Hagerty.

Shout out to Abe Barnett and Brad Phillips and McKeel Hagerty.

And I used to lend these guys, you know,

some cars to go do events with like the Copper State and became good friends

and start doing rallies together, not just lending them cars.

And there was a you know, there was a lot of conversations

that you should come work at Hagerty.

And at the time, my response with an arrogant bastard was,

well, you know, I'm doing pretty well doing what I'm doing.

I'm not sure that this makes much sense until it made all the sense.

I woke up one morning and said, you know, I really I think I really got to go

go look into this.

And I'd been running around in the hobby for a really long time.

I'd built a very substantial car collection for a gentleman here in Nebraska

while I was still, you know, munibond trader guy.

And it was during the Great Recession and conversation over dinner.

What are we going to do is, you know, this money keeps coming in.

It keeps coming in.

And I said, you know, you're buying all the wrong stuff.

You're restoring even more stuff.

Oh, and he was like, well, what do you mean?

I said, well, do you have a passion for these, you know, 1920s,

you know, buicks and stuff?

Because well, not really.

I feel like I have to do it.

And I'll never forget it.

I asked him over in a plate of Indian food as well.

Like if you could own any car tomorrow, what would you buy?

Because I'd love an Aston Martin DB5.

And I knew just enough that with all the confidence in the world over

dressin, we can find you one of those.

And love it.

You know, a few months later, I've got him out in Scottsdale

and we're at the auctions and we walk into an auction house

that we had no business walking into.

I mean, he did.

He had he had plenty of funds, but we did.

They didn't know us from anyone.

Sure.

And, you know, I'd never bought a car at auction.

I'd been to a couple, but never bought a car.

And we walked into the room and.

The folks at the front desk said, hey, you can't just walk in there.

And so we're going to go buy this car.

And they said, well, you have to register a bid.

We don't have time.

The car is coming up in like two pots.

And they said, well, you know, you need all of these things.

And I said, I looked at my clients.

I said, hey, just give them a blank check.

He goes, all right, you know, gets out the big ledger.

Rips.

I mean, if that if that doesn't do it all right,

the ledger opens, scratches his name and hands up to the front desk, right?

And we go marching in the room.

That's a packed house.

It was kind of what year it was.

It's the year that Russo and Steel lost their their tents to the high winds.

Sure. Yeah.

And so we're we walk right into the room

and we walk in just as the DB five comes over the block.

And I say, let's just go stand

right under the auctioneer's pulpit and we did.

And I told my client, put your hand up and he did.

And we're from a packed house.

He just looks at me.

I said, keep it up.

Just keep it up.

And he kept the hand up and the car, you know, goes past the number.

He goes, well, what do you think?

I said, just keep it up.

He goes, well, this is a lot of money.

I said, what's one more bond?

He goes, good point.

So we probably bid against ourselves a few times.

Details.

But we bought that we bought that car.

And in the course of the evening, he bought six more.

Oh, no, no kidding.

And by the end of the week, we had two trailers coming back to them.

And and from there, you know, we watched so many collectors

that really go nuts at first, buying a little bit of everything

before they really start tailoring the to what they want.

And, you know, by the time he was done really buying a lot,

he had curated quite a collection of Ferraris coming through

a pretty good dip point.

And, you know, being being the guy that was affiliated with him,

I wasn't the money guy, but the guy that's affiliated.

And and I was helping him make decisions and logistics and all these things.

You meet a lot of folks, a lot of folks want to know who the heck I am.

Yeah.

And so this Rolodex got built out during really kind of the Great Recession

eight to two thousand and two thousand twelve and then six years.

That's a really long way to go about it.

But that's where the genesis was, you know, really getting to know people.

Rolodex got built an opportunity to go to go use it and help a company like

Hagerty, you know, Hagerty.

You know, they took a chance on me.

I had no background in property and casualty insurance.

So, you know, they started me out in a Midwest private

client manager role.

Okay. God bless them.

And we found some success with that.

And and I just kind of kept running to the open spaces where I saw, you know, a

need or a gap that should be filled in the business.

And and so it just kind of the the role they put me and just kind of, you

know, grew and grew and grew.

And and they put a lot of faith in me and they trust me.

And so today, to answer your question, after 30 minutes of bullshitting today,

what does Trent do?

So. So I work with our largest accounts.

I'm really privileged that that I work with our largest accounts.

We have a part of the company called Private Collections and really

focused on accounts at like 10 million and up.

Most of the work that I'm that I'm working on is is, you know,

in that 50 million up, you know, sent a million dollar collections,

bringing in new business.

So I'm working with a lot of these folks and their brokers, you know,

working with them to understand that we really are the best option to protect

their vehicles. We're the only, I think, I think we are really the only

company out there that this is all that we do.

Right. And, you know, I'm not I'm not looking at the age of shake shingles

on your house at the same time.

They got a drone.

Yeah. How do we how do we, you know, pay a claim on your Monteverdi high SS?

Like we we know what a Monteverdi high SS is here, right?

We we understand what it takes in the case of something happening to it.

And it's really nice to be a very focused company that way.

So for a for a natural born salesman like myself to be handed this product

that, you know, McKeel and his family built so many years ago

to march out into the world smelling great.

God, it's like truly like it's really.

World's your oyster, Trent.

I love it. It really is.

So no, it's it's been it's been really, really cool.

I've had so much fun, you know, when I first started it was

completely and totally overwhelmed with cars.

I'm completely, you know, totally overwhelmed with the people.

You know, it's

yes, it's such a blessing.

It's such a blessing.

What a company, you know, to go to the company before it was public

tour, it's public today.

Watch, watch how the business changes, but the culture stays the same.

Boy, that's saying something that's hard to do.

Yeah. Yeah.

And so for the team, yeah, it really is.

And for me, you know, they've they've left me pretty damn autonomous.

And, you know, I've just always told them that

for me to be the best at my job, I need to be omnipresent.

So I need to be where all the big collectors are all the time.

And so if that's if that's the Colorado Grand, the Cal Mealay,

if it's a Pebble Beach or Amelia Island or Wretchmobile in Paris

or, you know, classic Le Mans,

I try and I try and be to as much as it as I can be.

And it's amazing the amount of community that happens around you

with these people when you see them all the time.

By far and away, the poorest guy in the room doesn't matter.

We're all there together.

And we're just in a great time.

And and we're talking about, you know, what's going on

with with what's going on around us.

And then it's all about their family and my family.

It's all this stuff.

It's it's the greatest thing in the world.

It's the greatest. Yeah, it's sincere.

It's genuine. Yeah. Yeah.

Like the three of us are very like-minded in that sense.

And we talk about it, you know, in various combinations.

Like it really is all about the people.

I mean, I think like a large part of our conversation

at Air Water was about our daughters, which is like, that's not,

you know, car related.

And like, I'll have girlfriends say to me like, OK,

like you're into it, like help me understand

because I haven't been into cars before.

But like, if you're interested, there's got to be something there.

And I say the same thing.

I'm like, it's the people.

It's just the door opener.

It's, you know, foot into the conversation, whatever.

And then you end up with these lifelong friends

and it sort of shortcuts all the small talk in a lot of ways.

And you just dive into the meat of the friendship.

And then you meet all around the world, really, if you're lucky.

Yeah, right. Yeah.

And the network just grows so rapidly.

They want to know their friends.

And it's just it's this right ever, you know,

non nonstop circle of flywheel of greatness, if you will.

I love that flywheel of greatness.

That's the best there is the episode title.

But I think you're right.

And I think because we know we have this giant thing in common,

you sort of feel much more confident and comfortable going like,

well, you're going to like my friend so-and-so

and you're going to like this person.

And, you know, you want to like it just grows sort of organically

and you're excited to have, oh, my friend from Omaha,

meet my friend from France.

And we're all in the same place in Monterey.

And this is amazing.

Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty cool.

It's pretty cool.

It's just the best speaking of speaking of friends and and community.

Lindsay, I got it.

I got to say, you got the best hat in the business today.

Yeah.

That's the best hat in the business.

I mean, it pays to know people.

And I would like to see your version, sir.

Let's see it a little.

So my question is, I think you have yours came first, right?

Yeah, this is this is the OG.

This is the one point.

Oh, and then this was the the cherries of the evolution.

Yeah, that's the evolution. Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this.

It's so fun.

You know, people want to organically gather, right?

And and listen, not not to knock all the things that happen

at all these car events that are wonderful sponsors,

wonderful automotive manufacturers, and they're all hosting great events, right?

And they're, you know, really high brow, high dollar, great stuff.

Haggerty does a phenomenal job with their Haggerty House and radius events

and all these things.

My my business partner inside of Haggerty, we must not be remiss

in shouting out a Barnett.

I love Abe.

I got to meet him in person officially at the fraternity brunch

our week this year.

And I should say, for those of us not watching, we are, of course,

referring to your fraternity.

I ate a pie, which we're representing with our hats.

Correct. The best.

It is the best.

So tell us a little bit about the genesis of I ate a pie,

which I was so thrilled to be a become a pledge officially this summer.

Ryan is just waiting for his invitation, but we'll get there.

It's coming. It's drying for someone.

I'm sure I'm sure this holds your breath.

We just need you to run down the street and get us some tacos.

And whatever it takes, I'll do it naked.

Whatever you guys need, like my cards, a little dirty.

I have some socks that need to be washed.

So I have I have two absolute best friends in the hobby.

T.G. Mittler from Santa Fe, New Mexico, love T.G.

And he is the genesis of the cowboy hat with the snake head, right?

Well, he and I together, that's OK.

Now, twins, I was going to say twins, twins.

Bennett Logan is is kind of the third.

And Bennett Logan's, you know,

younger than T.G. and I by a pretty good shake.

And we won't do the math.

That's fine. No, it's fine.

He could have been a child for either one of us, but that's fine.

Who's counting, though? Come on, yeah.

Technicalities.

So, you know, we the three of us find ourselves

going all over the world to all these events together.

And, you know, if if I didn't know somebody, T.G.

knew them if they were young and neither of us knew them.

Bennett knew them and I had to stop being facetious.

But really, it's this really great group of friends

that that that really built out a network together

since really, since I've been working at Agri.

And for a long time, for a very long time,

it was any time I traveled anywhere,

I made sure I had a spare bed in my hotel room

and I'd put T.G. in the bed and Bennett Logan

would get like an air mattress and put it on the floor

between our two beds. It's adorable, right?

Slumber party, fraternity slumber party.

So, you know, after after some years of doing this,

we joke that we really should start a fraternity

and start renting a house in Pebble Beach.

And God, I thought we could we couldn't do something with this.

And thus, thus we started fraternity.

So you've got the triune of Trent, T.G. Bennett

and A. Barnett is like permanent pledge, right?

It's like the most active permanent pledge of all time.

Plus, he just it's like human sunshine.

So like, why would you not?

He is like human sunshine.

So anyway, so we post we host this this this breakfast

this prequail breakfast every year.

And it is not commercial.

It is not any of these things.

It's just us inviting a lot of friends

and a lot of these folks may be clients.

They may be not they, you know, but it's it's people

we want to spend time with this year at our little house

on Bronco Road, T.G.

Prepared seventy two breakfasts of what?

Wavell's Rancheros Wavell's Rancheros with homemade sauce.

I will say it was legit.

It was like it was delicious.

My favorite part that was the hot tub beans.

Oh, yeah, I mean, you got to cook the beans somehow.

Right. If you're cooking for a crowd.

You got to have a little fun.

Yeah, I love that.

Best part is people pausing halfway to their sorry.

How are the beans? Never mind.

Don't worry about it. Just eat them.

We just like to sit in the hot tub and watch the beans cook.

That's the best.

That's great, baby.

Oh, my goodness, we have fun.

And with that, it's, you know, it's really, again,

it's it's about the people and, you know, and that time.

I mean, those are memories that none of us are going to forget.

Like, we're not being there at six in the morning or five

in the morning. We start serving at five a.m.

And right, we're coolers in hand and come enjoy yourself.

So now those are, yeah, it's just something totally different.

We we love doing that.

We love hosting our friends.

And yeah, we're very blessed that way.

Well, and again, I think it's sort of it's sort of like

it's meta in the sense of like you have these networks.

But again, not everybody knows each other.

So if you come to the event, everybody's networks are growing

in the moment because you're meeting people you wouldn't have

maybe run across, even though you know a lot of these new people.

You know, I mean, I I met someone in the driveway

on my way out who knows my dad.

And I'm like, yeah, of course.

That's like this is why you go to the fraternity brunch.

It's amazing.

Yeah, well, it's I mean, but that's I mean,

you just spoke to every car event, right?

Right, exactly.

The separation in in that world was so tight.

And yeah, I mean, it's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

That's child's play. Come on.

All right, like, welcome down to five.

It's like one degree of high.

Well, the funniest part was he started telling me this story

and in my head, I was like, I'm pretty sure I know this story.

And my dad was instrumental.

But I'm like, let me just make sure I'm listening, you know.

And and he tells me a story.

And I said, yeah.

And I said my dad's name.

And I honestly thought he was like punking me because he goes,

oh, he saved my bacon and it was so genuine.

But he was so grateful that I was like, oh, he's kidding.

He doesn't really know who he is.

And he's like, no, I'm being completely serious.

He saved the day.

Yeah, that's so cool.

It was so funny.

Yeah, it was like small world, like totally illustrated

the car community in the best way.

It was so fun.

That's so cool.

All thanks to Trent and TG and Abe, of course.

The crew, it's a good crew.

That's awesome.

The core group.

You are you are known for sort of starting things

or you at least tend to be in the center when things are created.

So one other thing that you have created is this very fun

group dedicated to Chrysler's Finest PT Cruisers.

Absolutely.

And the name of the group is the PT Cruiser Spotters

Anonymous and it sounds like I narrowly missed being at the event

where this was created.

So for everyone, could you share how this came about?

Oh, my God.

Yeah, I'm happy.

I mean, it's going back a few years.

But you know, that's that's such an original name, too.

Isn't it the PT Cruiser Spotters Anonymous page?

Like, oh, my goodness.

I wish you could have been a little more specific

so we'd know what the focus was.

But yeah, there's a little it's like it's amazing.

It is.

I will I can attest.

I cannot believe how active that group chat is.

It's it's just especially today.

It was like they knew you were coming on the show.

I was like, what's everybody?

Oh, my God.

What's going on?

So let's see.

It was it was myself, Matt Goist.

If you guys know Matt Goist, he's a wonderful young man,

collection manager and so much more than that

for the folks that he's working with.

He's also on the McPherson College Board

for the for the automotive school.

Like, oh, OK.

So obviously he has great taste.

Right.

He, myself and John Nickas once again.

Yeah, we were sitting together in downtown Orange.

Orange.

And as one does, because I mean,

you look like you're out of a film set there.

And we're watching a lot of ways you are.

Yeah, right.

In many instances.

So we're watching these cars roll down the street

and I go Mustang and there's a Camaro

and there's a Ferrari is going by.

Yeah.

And the first PT cruiser that came through.

We all kind of looked at each other

and we all waited for somebody to say something like.

Future collectible.

And the three of us were like,

hell, yeah, it is like these things

like way ahead of their time.

And like, how many of you still see on the road today?

They're survivors.

And when you look at, I mean, listen,

when you look at the sculpt that was that car,

that was a wild thing in its period.

And, you know, I can't say.

I can't say anything bad about them.

Like, hell, I'd have one.

I'd have one.

Well, what would you have?

What's your dream spec?

What's your dream spec PT cruiser, Trent?

Oh, man, well, you know, tell me those words on the sides.

I would say, obviously, there has to be faux wood paneling.

Right.

And if there was if there was a drop top

so I could have a two door, I mean, I wouldn't complain.

I mean, there were words right out of my mouth.

That's that's right.

Yes, there are so many variations of the PT cruiser.

Right. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Well, somebody in the group just spotted

and Evan Zima aptly named it, you know,

it's described it.

He said, it's so nice to see people

driving their classic cars.

But it was a drop top PT cruiser over the weekend

that somebody saw out and about.

Absolutely.

And they're it used to be it used to be

go fine, you know, you like the slug bug thing.

And so all of us all of us idiots

spotting these PT cruisers, the stories that are coming back

of like really poor driving

that people are doing just to get the shot is pretty funny.

That's amazing.

Somebody's taking like really beautiful photos of these things.

Amazing.

It's so much fun.

And that group is like a veritable who's who in the hobby this weekend.

Hanging out and spotting PT cruisers in a in a, you know, group chat.

We also have one Instagram page that's used here and there.

But right, our group chats, very, very active, very active.

So is it just the PT cruiser

or is it PT cruiser adjacent stuff like the prowler?

No, no, just PT cruiser.

We got no time for anything.

A little PT.

Keeping it pure.

Yeah, I love it.

All right, so other than the PT cruiser,

what car should we all be buying right now?

You've got, you know, insight into this world

and you see what, you know, people are are buying and selling.

And, you know, you mentioned a 20s Buick or whatever.

You know, I mean, you know, fuck that noise.

What should we be buying?

No pressure.

Yeah, yeah, we really should have John Wiley on the show.

I would love to have John on the show.

Yeah, you would be a great, great guy for you guys.

Just make some shit up and just watch the market, you know, change tomorrow.

What would you like to be buying?

So tell people.

Go along, go along PT cruisers.

You know, it's it's it's so interesting to

to watch our insurance book at Agri.

And, you know, we have all kinds of insights

and watching, watching what's happening.

And the growth that we've witnessed in post 90s cars is

OK, it's unbelievable.

Yeah, I don't want to say so in dart, you're going to land it.

But post 90s, you know, cars are really sought after.

So when I look at that and I think of, you know, what's

what hasn't moved yet, I think of like first gen Corvette ZR one.

Mm hmm.

I think of I think of Callaway stuff.

Sure. Yeah, what a great man, what a great engineer.

Wonder with us.

I don't think that those have seen their day yet.

It wasn't that long ago that nobody gave a damn about a roof Porsche.

Yeah, right.

And now they are everything.

I really think that the JDM market, you know, it's hot,

but I don't think that's over yet.

So I think it's skylines and and, you know, Brian Janich, you know,

shout out to him.

He's taught me a whole lot about that market, right?

I think that that market has a lot of legs.

And then I'm, you know, I've always been a bit of a contrarian.

So for me, I love looking at like

thirty two Ford's because they've become reasonable again.

So you've got like these really cool young guys getting into that stuff.

And and that's that's cool to watch.

You know, the great builds are always going to be expensive.

But to watch some of these young guys get into these more reasonable,

you know, flathead vehicles is really cool.

I was I was privileged to go on a tour this summer

and, you know, kind of being again contrarian.

I'm dying to find a prewar car, a prewar sport.

Yeah, yeah.

That I can drive.

I was I was a co-driver in a in a Bentley tour this summer.

And yeah, I got I got so hooked coming out of that.

Those things are great.

I think outside of Bentley, like Bentley's like they've done such a good job.

The Bentley owners have done such a good job of creating events

to make those cars, you know, keep the demand high on them.

Everybody wants to go to all these great events with.

But we're not seeing that, at least in the states, there's more in Europe,

but not so much in the states for prewar sporting cars and events here.

So being a guy that either likes to follow a crowd or or start a crowd.

I'd I'd love to to be the genesis of a, you know,

sub 55 year old group that goes out and starts buying some prewar stuff

that we can things with.

I think that would be a lot of fun.

And where that markets, maybe, you know, valuation is shrinking a little bit.

Yeah, it allows it allows the next generation to say, you know what,

I think there's value there and I want to I want to get involved.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, and I love that because I think that is a

like pretty consistent thread in terms of topics of conversation.

When you look at, you know, I think kind of like the conventional wisdom

is the cars that are popular are whatever the generation that has,

you know, come into their own financially had in high school.

And so the concern is like, OK, but so the really early stuff

are the enthusiasts passing on and what's going to happen to them.

And so I love this, like it's sort of like, well, maybe that's not

the concern that we're all, you know, anticipating it to be

because the next wave of enthusiasts is going to come along.

Right. Yeah.

I I. I hope that that's the case.

Right. I feel like it is.

So, you know, I feel like we're kind of, for me, it's that barbell.

I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Card.

Do you think there's just some stuff that though that's inherently good

that just sort of transcends, you know, sentimentality, right?

I mean, there's some stuff, maybe thirty two forwards or whatever, right?

There's some stuff that's just good and will always be good and always be desirable.

I think without a doubt, like, you know, the tri-five shabbies.

Like you asked somebody to draw you a picture of a classic car,

they're going to draw either a thirty two forward or a tri-five shabby, right?

So it might not always be inherently valuable,

but will always be inherently good.

I think if you're talking intrinsic value,

you know, can't can't have this conversation and not talk about Ferrari.

Sure.

You know, they're in words of T.G. Mittler.

There are there are fewer, you know,

Ferraris from the 1950s and 60s and there are billionaires in the world.

So that drives some good way to look at it.

Yeah, that's that's wise.

Yeah.

You know, the same thing can be said about, you know,

McLaren F1s and these cars that just show a whole lot of inherent value.

You know, Porsches dove so well at what, you know,

I started buying Porsches because they were cheap.

Yeah.

I was buying these Ferraris for this client and friend of mine.

I was picking up Porsches because they they were just cheap.

Sure.

I could do this.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have been, but I was.

And but I'm glad I got them because I couldn't afford the stuff

I have today that I was buying again.

And yeah, it's it's interesting.

I think, you know, there's there's a lot of great supercars

in the in the recent modern world that I think will continue to be really great.

You know, the La Ferraris, the McLaren C12s, the, you know.

You know, there's there's a list that we all that we all know.

I think that those will will hold great value for a very long time.

The collector car community is not going anywhere.

Any market finds a bottom and then levels.

And then, you know, somebody comes along and says, you know,

Lufka Colts, a really cool thing that lifts the whole market, right?

Or, you know, machanissima that's just happened.

Right.

All of a sudden, everybody cares about alphas.

It's not funny.

Yeah, yeah.

It's it's it just takes the the the right the right event

or lift to get that to happen.

Yeah. Yeah.

So P.T. Cruiser Fest is happening when Trent?

Well, I'm going to put Lindsay on that.

That's what I was going to say.

We had our we just had the kickoff meeting.

So it's 2025.

So Trent, I'm thinking 2035 ish.

Stay tuned.

Didn't we just have it like last week?

I don't know. Did you guys miss it?

Wait, it was amazing.

The reviews are in 10 out of 10.

No, no. Yeah, Lufka.

Nothing on us.

Lufka. Yeah, we scoot.

P.T. Cruisers are where it's at, kids.

I bring my P.T. to Lufka, please.

I've got to give I've got to give if I can, if I can give a couple of plugs.

Please.

Nobody wants plugs on their podcast.

But by God, I'm going to do it.

We love a bug away.

But plug one, if you haven't yet,

dear friend of mine or friends of mine

recently had a film release.

Oh, so it's it's called one of one.

Oh, yeah, it's about the Naito family in Japan.

Right on.

So Naito and his and his family are featured.

Ben Bertucci is the is the

documentary and director voice voice of the show does a phenomenal job.

And they're they're just great friends of mine.

They hosted me in Japan about a year ago.

And I can't say enough good about the family.

So if you get a chance, trust me, you are going to love the film.

It's it's it's worth every minute of the watch.

And if you don't like it, I'll give my personal email.

You can tell me why not.

I've heard nothing but wonderful things about it.

Shout out to a friend, Maurice Merrick at Horsepower Heritage.

We had been on the show recently to talk about it.

So yeah, it's it's wonderful.

We'll check it out.

Yeah, I'm overseeing the pictures of your trip, Trent, and it looked amazing.

So I'm excited to try it.

Yeah, I'd never been to Japan.

I was blown away by Japan.

I was blown away by the family's hospitality.

Yeah, I show up and and I didn't know the Naito family well.

And we had met a few times that they got done kind of one half

fast favor for them, and they had been to the fraternity breakfast in the past.

And so the rest is history.

Exactly. I show up there.

I show up to their shop and and so Naito says we're doing a five day

driving tour down the Izu Peninsula out of Tokyo.

And he hands me the keys to his sixty seven nine eleven off.

Shut up, shut up.

And it's just like, what?

Like, OK, and we go, you know, from Ryu Khan to Ryu Khan.

And it was the most incredible thing ever in the most generous people,

the most generous spirit.

This family is incredible.

They're their history between, you know, Japan in the 1950s to present.

The time spent in the in the 60s, 70s, 80s with the second generation

coming back and forth to L.A.

And they built they built a really cool business.

I don't want to spoil any of it, but by God, watch it.

They're wonderful people.

They're and Ben and Ben just nailed it.

Ben just nailed it.

There's it's not just about the cars, but if you like ours,

there are some wonderful shots in there of really incredible stuff.

And it reminds me of if.

Oh, man, what was the old Alameda cat in a show

driven to perfection? OK, right.

So it's kind of like like the beauty shots of that.

OK, really sort of being told about us.

Just just really incredible.

So if you have a chance, do that.

And then and what's the name of the movie?

One of one, one of one. OK.

You can catch it on Apple TV or Amazon.

Nice, perfect. Easy.

We can go watch. Very, very easy.

We're so lucky to be a part of this world, aren't we?

I mean, this is pretty special, right?

These opportunities we have, these people we meet, you know, it's great.

It'd be it'd be fun to get Ben on your show.

We should do that.

We should absolutely so gets to the United States quite a bit.

So anyway, that's plug one, plug two.

Yeah, I love I love clubs.

If you have me on the tell, yeah, I love club.

None of this makes any sense.

So I was recently put on the executive committee

or board of the Peterson Museums Checkered Flag 200.

Congratulations. Thank you.

Thank you. More adulation, please.

No, go on.

So, you know, for for those folks that that haven't interest,

the Peterson Museum, I always considered it, you know, living in the Midwest

is kind of the White House of the collector space.

And, you know, Bruce Meyer kind of being the the president

down the war room, if you will. Yes.

And, you know, with the amount of time that I spend in LA

and the amount of time I've been able to put in with the Peterson

and the checkered flag and now, you know, in a in a position to be working with them

has been really, really great.

But the amount of the amount of good that they do for the city and the children,

that checkered flag group, it's, you know, it's it's an annual membership.

I think we've got about 600 members in it currently.

But I want to say we put 2600 bus loads of kids into the Peterson

every year. Wow. Wow.

That that group and the dollars that that come out of that group

in this membership, I think they've put almost or just over three million

children through that museum in LA.

So that's something I'm very proud of.

And the people in that group are are some of the best in the world.

And we all share the same ridiculous passion for.

Right.

Automobiles and steel and rubber and all of those things.

But a real plug to to the checkered flag and to the Peterson Museum.

You know, for a guy to build to grab a job at Haggerty

and and find myself, you know,

doing all of these really ridiculously interesting things with

even more ridiculously interesting people and finding some ways

to make impact beyond the walls of Haggerty has been really, really cool.

And yeah, I pinch myself every morning and I have a very, very patient wife

with a great olfactory note.

Right. She's a triple threat.

Well, I think that's a show.

And and can't thank you enough, Trent.

I think you're the best great storyteller.

Great show. Come back any time.

I feel like we've just scratched the surface.

Yeah, I would love.

I would love it.

Let's let's let's keep this party rolling.

Let's do it. Let's do it.

A bigger group. Let's all talk over each other next time.

I'll be checking my mail for my hat.

OK, I'll leave it at that.

It's on its way.

Check every day.

When I'm seeing the riot, man, it's scary.

Is it here? Is it here?

Ryan's pledge requirement is under the mailbox every day.

I'll give you a feed to my ring camera.

You'll like you were a little late on Thursday.

We're going to extend it by a week.

But get close.

I love it. I love it.

So good to see you.

Thank you for joining us.

Thank you very much.

Extra thing.

Yeah, thank you.

Talk to you. OK.

Well, and don't forget to always be driving, everybody.

And wear that car show.

We'll see you next week.

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