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Our 2025 Dutch GP predictions (plus a massive announcement!)
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About this episode
Matt and Tommy gear up for the 2025 Dutch Grand Prix with lively predictions and banter, highlighting Max Verstappen, Oscar Piastri, and Lando Norris as key contenders. They reveal a major announcement: the P1 Live show is coming to Australia in May, with stops in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, and Perth. The hosts also involve their family in quick-fire top three predictions, adding a fun personal touch. The episode blends race insights, personal stories, and exciting news, making it a dynamic listen for F1 fans eager for the upcoming race and live events.
Topics:
2025 dutch grand prix predictions
max verstappen
oscar piastri
lando norris
p1 live australia tour
family top three predictions
formula one race analysis
driver performance
race weekend plans
podcast announcements
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy.
It's a race week.
Come on everybody, right? Yes, yes, yes, yes, please.
We're here, finally.
I can watch cars go round tracks again.
Thank God for that, Tommy.
Look at you. You're kitted out.
You are max on, max on, max.
And that sounds very sensitive.
We were about to record it and you were like, get the cape on.
What are you doing?
Put the cape on right now and I've got to see it.
I've got to be a blank bit on my wall bit, doesn't matter.
That's fine. Don't worry about it.
It's all over you and you are the star of the show.
So, Tommy, how are you feeling ahead of this one, mate?
Formula One, finally back.
Oh, yeah, looking forward to it.
And our predictions, we left it on such a brilliant cliffhanger
for the summer break.
Michael Massey, that good, didn't we?
Yeah, and I know we joke about it.
We joke, but we literally aren't giving...
It's like one or two points at the most.
That's the thing.
If it was the family and we were...
If I was using grace every week or something, for example.
But it's not like...
We've tried to Michael Massey the family top three.
That's not happened so far.
Yeah, we're not going, oh, Lando Norris won,
but it needs to be close so you're not getting a point.
We've not done anything like that.
It's 37 all.
37, 37.
This is the real fight, right?
Not the championship fight in Formula One.
The championship fight between me and you, Tommy.
Now, before we get into our predictions
and dive into all of that wonderful delusion in our minds,
speaking of delusion, I'm wearing this T-shirt, right?
Which I know you will have seen previously.
Some of you have bought it.
However, there is more.
There is a huge announcement.
The largest of announcements we've had for a while.
And it is.
The P1 Live show is coming to Australia.
Woo!
Confirmed.
Done.
Yeah, that is...
Fun fair party poppers.
Yeah, so much.
I'm hoping the editor did us good there
and that there are serious amounts of carnage
going on the screen right now.
But P1...
That was actually people in Australia cheering.
I can hear them from the UK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Big, big noise.
So, yeah, we are going to Australia, everybody.
So, I know that a lot of you have been asking for it.
Lee, when are you coming to Australia?
Wow, why are you ignoring us?
So, you're better by the tickets now.
Yes, we're coming a very, very long way.
So, I really hope you will come to our show.
So, we are doing.
7th of May, Melbourne at the National Theatre.
9th of May, Sydney at the Seymour Centre.
11th of May, Brisbane at the Tivoli, or Tivoli.
I've said both.
And finally, the 13th of May at the Astor Theatre in Perth.
Oh, yes.
I can't wait, Toby.
I've never been to Australia before.
I've never been, and I can't wait.
Looking forward to it.
I will be in some sort of massive inflatable ball
just to protect myself from all spiders
that will come with me.
You'll be in like a Ferrari beekeeping outfit.
That is something that doesn't exist but needs to.
So, there you go.
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We cannot wait to go there.
It's going to be awesome.
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Right, let's get into the predictions, Tom.
8.37 a piece and it is your time
to go first for the Dutch Grand Prix.
So, good surprise I've gone for.
Max Verstappen.
No messing around.
Easy dub.
Shameless Matt Gallagher style prediction.
Max hasn't had a podium for a long time
and we go to the Dutch Grand Prix
that will suit the Red Bull more
and Max is always good around here
even though I don't necessarily think
he can win, we'll find out
but we'll see.
But Max Verstappen, mainly just because
he's not been on the podium in a long time
and surely, surely here he's got to do it.
So, by the rules and regulations
of this podcast predictions
I have to now change mine
because I was indeed going
for Max Verstappen a good surprise.
Should have seen this coming
with the amount of merch you're currently wearing
and should have thought of this.
I went for him as biggest flop last time actually.
So, instead
my good surprise is
Lewis Hamilton.
OK.
Literally on the fly.
But look, we're going for drivers
that haven't been on a great run of form.
I see that, I see you Tommy.
That's a very safe bet with Max Verstappen.
Little P4 from Lewis Hamilton
I'm locking that in.
Beautiful stuff.
Or, actually I will take a point
if his post quality slash post race interviews
are actually reasonably positive.
That is a good surprise in itself
because of how sad
things were at the end of Hungary.
But now let's go for Lewis Hamilton.
He's Lewis Hamilton for God's sake.
This should be something I could be confident in
so I'm going for it.
Locked in.
Right.
We now head to a big flop.
You're not going to like the...
You're not going to like what I say here Tommy.
You've been on the hype train for this man.
My big flop is Gambriel Bortoletto.
There's been a bit too much good going on at the moment
I feel like there needs to be a flop.
I'm sorry Bortoletto, I really am
because I genuinely said
that you were going to get a podium
in the bulk predictions.
However, it's not at Zanvo.
I'm really sorry and I've flopped it.
And my flop has been good.
My flop has been very good the last year.
Wait, didn't you Hülkenberg the last two?
This is the third Salberio row.
Yeah, I am going for that Tommy.
Look, I'm not against Salber.
I just have an appetite for points.
And right now, I feel like Salber,
they had such a great run of form.
Hülkenberg, of course, off the back of that podium,
I scored a lovely two points from him in the last two.
You did.
I'm really sorry Bortoletto, that's what I'm going to say.
Salber flops have been good to you, haven't they?
I have gone.
And a team actually, I've gone for.
It's not Salber.
It's Aston Martin.
And I actually thought you might go for this one.
We go different...
Yeah, you have a completely different track
to the last one.
That's my position spar.
Awful actually.
Then great at the Hungaro ring
and then we go back to a more spar like circuit.
And I think Aston Martin are going to be washed again.
So we'll find out that's my logic here.
But then also, if it rains,
it could all go out the window
because, of course, they've got two very good weather drivers.
They certainly do.
Tommy, who is your pole position?
My pole position?
Is Oscar Piazteri.
I think Oscar is going to, again, he's been good in qualifying, that's something he's
really turned around this year, something that's been very, very impressive.
I do think it's going to be very close between the two McLaren's, as it always is, in qualifying.
But yeah, this time I'm feeling an Oscar Piastri pole position.
Okay.
I don't need to change my pole position.
Let's go.
My pole position is Max Verstappen.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, get the cape on me now.
I think that's probably what needs to happen.
Yeah, look, I think I will kick myself if I didn't put Max in the forefront of some of
my predictions coming into Zandvoort, where, yes, he couldn't fight off Lando last year.
But I think, and we've discussed this previously, Tommy, that Rebel aren't in as bad a position
in terms of their pace as what I think we will see in Zandvoort.
And I am maybe seeing in my mind's eye that there could be some changeable conditions.
Let's see, right?
We're recording this quite early because of the fact that I need to move house.
So I can't check the weather all too accurately right now.
But from what I looked at, it was thunderstorms Saturday.
But it is quite far out.
So yeah, I'd kick myself if I didn't go for Max, and so I've done that.
Okay.
And third position.
I have gone for Oscar Piastri.
Little P3 for Oscar.
Yeah, I haven't put a McLaren in both first and second.
Unbelievable scenes.
Is Tommy changing on the fly?
I'm seeing a little bit of movement in his eyes right now.
No, I'm actually just checking something that you carry on.
Okay, you're checking something that always scares me when you check something.
I'm not being like, can you, you can't go for Oscar Piastri in P3.
I was actually just checking if he's even had a P3 this year
because it seems like he's always been kind of first or second or off the podium.
And there'll be people screaming going, of course he was.
You remember that one?
I actually, it's come to me already without even looking.
It was Imola.
There we go.
There you go.
Okay.
So he hasn't seen P3.
So it is possible then.
Thank you, Tommy.
Okay, so my P3 is Max Verstappen.
Back on the podium, but no higher than a P3.
Yeah, maybe a crazy weather conditions like you say we don't know yet,
but you think that rain or shine, Verstappen should be good around Zandvoort
and not one of those circuits where maybe he will gamble on different wing settings
and stuff because it's not one of those that will really,
you don't think he'll change as much between kind of wet and dry conditions.
So yeah, I'm going for Max.
Okey-dokey, second position, Tommy.
P2 is Lando Norris.
I find it very difficult to choose between P1 and P2.
And yeah, I've gone for Lando, of course, crushing victory last season.
I think McLaren will be mighty and I can see Matt changing.
And I don't know if it's changing because he wants to change it.
I love he might go so much.
Or if he's just going for what he, and he's gone for Lando as well.
We're about to find out.
Well, I can't screw you over, Tommy, because I've already put Oscar in third.
So there's no way of me screwing you over, unfortunately.
Yes, I do have to announce that I did have Lando Norris in P2.
So I have to change again, which means mine games galore,
but I can't do anything.
So I've used my Joker card of Oscar Piastre already, which is really annoying.
So in second position, I am going to lock in Max Verstappen.
I just think he's going to be competitive.
I just see it.
Yes.
Yeah.
Why would you bet against him at his home Grand Prix?
He's going to be rejuvenated, I think.
So this could age terribly when you finish a seventh at his home Grand Prix,
but both of us, Tommy, are on the hype train.
And I had him somewhere else, but I've had to go to second.
I was about to say, by process of elimination then,
does that mean you had Verstappen P1 originally?
I did.
You did?
Okay, interesting.
Again, if there is some kind of changeable conditions,
I'm putting Max right up there and he'll challenge for the win.
So it's not happening, though.
It's finishing second.
So that's locked in.
In first place, therefore, I have gone for Lando Norris,
which, to be honest with you,
my brain is a lot more comfortable with this.
The Max Play this weekend is a risky one.
There's no guarantee,
whereas McLaren are fast at every single circuit.
So I'm not too upset with having Lando in P1.
I might have accidentally, again,
given you the dub there.
Because was it last time out?
We switched and you got it right.
And you got it right, so yeah.
Appreciate it.
Cheers.
So P1, no surprise, I've gone for Oscar Piastri,
McLaren 1-2 with Max in P3,
not the most interesting of predictions,
but I could, of course, see it happening.
McLaren, I do think, are going to be mighty round here.
Oscar has been rapid at these sort of circuits this year,
which is why I've gone for him over Lando,
but it was a very difficult choice
because, of course, Lando was so good here last year.
He was. Actually, I feel great now.
Lando was brilliant around Zavot last time.
And if it rains, he's brilliant in the wet as well, Lando.
Thank you, Tommy.
I think you've just given me at least one point there.
I know, I think I might have.
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Let's now head to our one crazy prediction.
My one crazy prediction is Yuki Sonoda in The Points.
It's been a long old time.
When's the last time?
It was back in May for...
He has actually scored points for Red Bull.
I had to check it actually because in my head
he hadn't even scored points for Red Bull yet,
but he did.
He got a P10 at Imola last time.
That was the last time he got points.
So very long time ago,
Yuki did better in those races
even though it's still a horrible result in the end,
but there were signs of improvement weirdly.
So we'll see.
Okey-dokey.
My one crazy prediction is also about points,
but not for Yuki Sonoda.
Pierre Gasly
He's off the back of a P19.
Don't you dare go to his record.
I see you moving your arm.
Lovely little P19 in Spa.
So look, he was very good actually
last time out in Zanvo.
So I see a little bit of form there.
And Gasly...
And 2023 as well.
Yeah, it wasn't that way.
He was on the podium.
Crazy old race, that one.
God, the rain was mental.
I've gone for Gasly points
because it is crazy.
Alpine are not consistently.
They're usually about ninth fastest.
So we will go for that.
We'll lock it in and I'm not getting any sort of aggro
from Tommy there,
because he brings out his flipping recents of...
Gasly, that's right.
Three racers ago did a fastest lap.
Right, Patreon prediction.
So if you're unaware, of course,
any of you that are part of the P1 Patreon
can submit a prediction each race weekend
and one of them can be selected by both me and Tommy.
My one is from Edith, is my middle name.
Berman in the points, it has to happen.
Come on.
Surely.
We're loving the drivers in the points.
That's throwing a row.
We're just handing out points left, right and centre.
And I want points as well.
There's not many points positions.
And we're like, so we need
Zanoda, Gasly and
Berman in the points.
No, no, I don't need Zanoda.
No, true, you don't.
You can take that and shove it away.
And we also might not have that
if my Patreon prediction comes through
because it is from Sophie,
which is all 20 drivers
finish the race.
Are you channeling a stinker here, Tommy?
No, not necessarily, just
could still be an action at the front.
Zanvore is one of those where
it's only ever amazing or
single file.
So fingers crossed is more like a 2023.
Zanvore is a difficult track
to overtake as we know,
but I feel like it does invite
a little lunge, a little dive bomb.
A little, you know.
So 20 drivers finishing Zanvore
will be very intriguing indeed
and I hope for your sake, 19 of them finish.
So let's now
go to our family
top three
where I'm just going to ring around
because I haven't actually
spoken to anyone
so I'm going to see if
Ellie will pick up first.
She's going to hate me that I put her on the spot.
She'll think this is an emergency.
Please don't hate me, please don't hate me, please don't hate me, please don't hate me, please don't hate me.
She loves doing research as well.
She's probably on a meeting.
I'm literally ringing her on a meeting.
I'm a terrible human.
That's two in a row as well.
Oh no.
Oh God, I don't remember.
Absolutely not.
That will be zero points immediately.
That's when you finally take the lead.
I can rely on my dad.
I feel like my dad will pick up
but also I've not told any of them
that I'm going to be ringing or recording the predictions.
So maybe this is the way though.
Hi.
Hi dad.
You're live on the P1 podcast.
Please do not swear.
So we're recording predictions quite early
and we're just going to do it.
So I'm putting you on the spot.
I tried to ring Ellie but she's clearly in a meeting
and will give me a message later
that I've interrupted their meeting probably.
So it's over to you for the top three
and you've had no chance to think about it
but I feel like we need to change it up.
I feel like there's too much thinking going on in the Gallagher's
and we need just off the cuff
vibes.
Okay so in P3 dad, who is finishing in third?
For Zanvore. Thank you.
Max for Stephen.
And who's in first?
Oscar Piastri.
Okay.
There's been a lot of Max for Stap and Glazing
in this podcast.
We've all thought that Max is going to do well this weekend
and you are also there.
Yeah.
Thank you so much dad. Lots of love.
Cheers. Bye.
That's very, very difficult
because I want
my predictions to come in
but then you get three points for the families
that are exactly the same as mine.
Yeah, exactly the same.
Oscar Piastri.
Now I'm in the serious dilemma.
Forget the family top three. That's the constructors.
No one cares about that. The drivers championship is where it's at.
That's not what he said last year.
Yeah but in this.
Okay, thanks dad for going exactly the same
as Tommy.
I need to now see if my mum will pick up.
I can ask her about how I
crochet.
Ask her about the little stitching.
That dial tone sounds like she's under water.
Hello.
Hi. Hello.
You're live on the P1 podcast. How are you mum?
I'm alright.
I'm in the middle of making a curry.
Lovely. Lovely stuff.
Some more.
What kind of curry Matt says?
I'm doing a tofu one.
Lovely.
Right, Matt.
Take it. I'll leave it.
I need your top three for the Dutch Grand Prix.
I hope you've planned
accordingly.
P3 please. I have.
Okay, so in third place
Charles.
Okay, interesting.
Your mum's great.
P2?
Lando.
Okay, and P1?
Oh, okay.
I definitely thought that was going to be Oscar.
No Oscar on the podium.
Interesting.
Is this because
you want a different
driver on your crochet?
Are you still doing it?
I am.
Not crochet.
Cross stitch. That was close enough.
Please tell her that you've done it.
I've lied to the audience.
I need some red on there.
Well, honestly,
I was born into the wrong family.
You were.
I mentioned it in the last
podcast, so I need you to send me
an updated picture and I can show it off.
And then we're giving it away at the end of the season.
All right.
See you soon.
Bye.
Comment down below if you want to win
Tommy's mum's cross stitch
at the end of the season.
She didn't know she was doing it.
Okay.
Interesting. I really thought that was going to be Oscar.
Yeah.
This is not okay to be fair, actually.
In my head, I was like, I had Max P1.
I actually don't. I was going to, of course, but
I'm glad there's a difference. None of our family have gone for the same.
So there is an opportunity to
go either me
extend the lead massively or
you catch up. Yes, that's big W's.
They're aware of the content.
Thanks to my dad. That's a very strong top three,
considering I put him completely on the spot.
Okay. That is our predictions.
Locked in.
37 a piece as we head into Zandvoort.
10 races to go. Cannot wait, Tommy.
We're going to be live, of course, on Twitch and YouTube
on Saturday and Sunday for our watch along.
Come and join us there if you'd like to be part of the gang.
Tommy, what are your final thoughts?
Mine are
pray for your house move.
All works well, of course.
And also, if you're in Australia,
you better be buying some tickets because
look, we're super hyped
to go there and I know
a lot of you every time we do a tour,
it's like, why aren't you coming to Australia?
Well, we are now. Well, please come.
Please, please, please.
Otherwise, it's going to be
a long journey for 12 people.
For a long journey for 12 people.
No, we can't wait. It's going to be awesome.
Thank you everybody. We'll see you soon. Lots of love. Bye.
Bye.
Yeah, the chore is just
if you're in Australia to get those tickets
sorted, you know what I'm saying? Just get
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But today, Australia,
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But I cannot wait. It's going to be awesome.
And to be fair to you, if
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No worries. Yeah.
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your team will have the cut resistant gloves
they need at the start of their shift.
And you can end your day knowing
they've got safety well in hand.
Call 1-800-GRANGER
click Granger.com
or just stop by. Granger
for the ones who get it done.
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