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About this episode
Matt and Tommy dive into their predictions for the 2025 Singapore Grand Prix, debating potential surprises like Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll, and big flops including Max Verstappen and Williams. They discuss pole position contenders Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri, and share their hopes for a competitive race despite Singapore's reputation as a tough circuit. The episode also features fun family prediction segments, crazy bets like no yellow flags, and personal insights, all wrapped in a lively, fan-centric conversation with a few lighthearted moments.
Topics:
singapore grand prix predictions
driver surprises and flops
max verstappen performance
lando norris and oscar piastri
family prediction segment
crazy race predictions
f1 championship outlook
race strategy and track conditions
p1 live delusion tour
fan engagement and banter
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy, Singapore Race Week,
a land of hopes and dreams at the moment. If you're a certain Tom Bellingham or a neutral fan
that wants to see something absolutely ridiculous happen in this championship,
but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hey Tommy, but we already have and I'm wearing a red belt up.
I know. Super September is, I was going to say, is over. It's not quite one day left,
but we'll be into October. Let's see if Max's challenge continues.
She'll say, when this goes out, it will be October, so that makes no sense whatsoever.
As of recording contextually, it is still September at the moment, which means our
predictions might well be something special. Now, before we get into everything, predictions for
the Singapore Grand Prix, I've got to say the P1 live delusion tour in just over a month's time
is heading to the US and Canada. We would love to see you there. We've got brand new segments.
It's fun games. There's a lot to talk about. It's a fresh show. If you've been before,
come along again. Trust me, you'll have a completely different time, but it'll also be
very, very fun. So on the 4th of November, Seattle, Neptune Theatre, the 5th of November,
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Dallas at the Grenada Theatre, the 13th of November, Toronto at the Danforth Music Hall.
14th of November is Chicago Park West, which we've been to before. And then finally,
it is the 16th of November, Brooklyn, New York City in Warsaw. So there you go. That is the dates
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All right, Tommy, it is 45-43 to you in this predictions championship that nobody cares about
until I'm winning. And it is my time to go first. So what have I been cooking up this week?
Well, we head to a good surprise. I've thought about this long and hard. And my good surprise
is Fernando Alonso. I don't know if that's a little smoke, because he has to change it or
what? We'll find out shortly. I've gone for Fernando Alonso because it's not a fast track
in terms of low downforce. And that is what Aston Martin don't do very well at,
perhaps even Tommy has gone for Aston Martin, good surprise. I'm just trying to think
on my feet as to what you've gone for. I've gone for a Fernando Alonso, good surprise.
I don't feel like we've seen enough sort of, wow, what a great drive from Fernando Alonso
this year. Obviously, hindered by the car, hindered by a bit of bad luck as well.
But this week, it's time to get a point. Thank you.
So the reason I was slightly smoking is I've gone for Lance Stroll. And the reason I've gone
for Lance Stroll was because I was going to go for Fernando Alonso. And then mainly because
I think yeah, Aston on paper should be a lot better. Fernando is very good at that.
Singapore as well. But I went for Lance Stroll because it feels like an easier chance to get
points. Maybe. Because the bar is lower.
The bar is lower, isn't it, of course? Because people would still be surprised if he gets
points even if he doesn't necessarily beat Fernando Alonso. Whereas if he does beat Fernando Alonso,
you know, yeah, exactly. 100 points. No, no, you don't. No, you don't. Take that back.
Edit. A bit now. Right, let's go to a big flop.
Big flop. I've gone for Max Verstappen.
The dream's over. September's over. What are you doing?
I'm being realistic. Being realistic. Wow. It seems the real Max Verstappen fan here because
there's only one of us wearing Rebel merch. I want to believe. And I do hope that this is just like
you can get this bogey circuit out the way. Of course, you know, there'll be talk of him
running out a bit of races and things to be able to do this title challenge if it is indeed on.
But this Max Verstappen in Singapore, it's just an easy nightmare circuit for him.
Like he's always had bad luck, bad races there, some through his own, some through poor luck.
There's that insane stat that everyone always brings up at Singapore that Antonio Giovinazzi
has led more laps at Singapore than Max Verstappen. And I just don't think a bit like I mentioned
about Aston Martin doing well here. You look back to, say, something like Hungary and he was
struggling in Struggletown. So that's my logic. Interesting. Okay, Tommy.
And I've never wanted to be more wrong about it.
Straight out the blocks for this week after finishing the last race saying,
wow, and two percent of me now kind of believe that's that's that's positivity from Tommy. I tell
you that. Right. My big flop for this weekend, Williams. I feel like that's it. I've gone for
a double pointer as a reminder. If it comes in, it's a two-pointer. If it doesn't, obviously it's
zero. It's just got William Stinker in all over it. If they don't get a podium, then that's
a big flop locked in. I just I can't I can't see them doing particularly well. They'd have to do
probably worse than what they're able to do in a car that's pretty good this year.
So I'm sorry in advance, but the big flop I need to I need to look back now at the streak that
I'm on or at least however many points I've scored since since the flop powers came back.
And Williams, maybe you can help me to an extra two. Thank you so much.
Let's go to pole position. My pole position is Lando Norris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It has to
I mean, it has to be that there's a sound like any time I say that I'm winning the world title.
So it's not going to happen now. So I wish I've not said that that particular phrase.
Lando was so so fast last year at Singapore nearly crashed it a couple of times whilst he was half
a minute down the road. As Tommy ferociously tries to think, do I go for pole position
Max Verstappen after flopping him? But for me, Lando is the safe bet. I think for pole position
this weekend, that's well gone for. So yeah, I had gone for Lando Norris.
So by the letter of the law, this is your first predictions podcast.
We have rules where if one of us goes for a certain prediction, the other one has to
change it on the fly to make it quite otherwise it'd be very boring. And I will say that for
next season, we are revamping the predictions format again. So that we've taken on your feedback
of certain things being quite easy to maybe predict. I say easy, we scores are a lot of
time. But we are going to refresh it a little bit next year as well as a teaser.
We will. We'll have a think. So I appreciate you stalling there because I'm deciding between
two drivers and I will go for the boring answer and go for Oscar Piastri.
Who was the other one out of interest? Charlotte Clair.
Sorry. Okay. Yeah. Now go for Oscar Piastri. I do think McLaren are going to be absolutely
rapid. It should be a McLaren track one suited to them. And yeah, I'll go for Piastri because
I do think he's going to get worse than last time. And I don't think he's going to continue
his form where my word like what a bad race he had last time.
Can it be counted as form? I guess if you have the phrase you're only as good as your
last race then absolutely. Then if he makes land too, we're on track with it.
Yeah, then that's a good surprise locked in. Surprise neither of us went for good surprise.
I can't believe no one for that was absolutely. But wow, what are we doing here?
We're veterans of this series. What are we doing? Okay, interesting Oscar Piastri,
even though you wanted to go for land though. Third position in the race, Tommy.
I have gone for George Russell. The forgotten man maybe a driver that often gets
maybe forgotten about and missed off our prediction in the top three, but has got a lot of
podiums this year. And yeah, I think he'll go well around here. It's still a very hot race even
though it's obviously running cooler, cooler conditions, but still very hot. But now I
think Russell will have a good race around it. Okay, third position. I have not gone for
GR. I've gone for OP Oscar Piastri. I just, in my head, I just really struggle to put
three drivers in the top three. It's really difficult because on paper, one thing should happen
and both McLaren should definitely be in the top three. But then the reality is you've
got the Georges that turn up quite a lot. You've got the Charlotte Clairs that turn up
with a Ferrari occasionally. But for me, I'm going to Oscar Piastri. I think P3, to be honest,
I think he would take a P3 after what we had at last time out in Azerbaijan. That was the biggest
stinker I can remember from a championship leader. So for Oscar to just settle the boat,
even if he loses a few points to Lando, he just needs to get back into the flow of things,
which I think he will. But if we're looking back at last year's form as well, I think
Lando may well be the McLaren to beat. Second position. I'll take it all back, Lando Norris.
Lando is getting second, which to be fair, McLaren to beat was the sentence I used, which doesn't
mean he is the other McLaren. So I've gone for Lando Norris P2 because I'm all aboard. I'm all
aboard. I'm all aboard something crazy. I just want it. I need it. I don't know which
one. Yeah, who are you about to find out? I think McLaren will have the fastest car this weekend,
but that's not to say that mistakes won't creep in or qualifying or be massive,
even though I think that Lando should in theory take pole position. But I've thought that many
times and sadly I've not scored as many points as when I've back Lando. So I've gone for P2.
LN. P2 I have gone for Oscar Piastri. And yeah, and this was an interesting one because
we'll get onto it later, but because of what you've predicted so far, I thought this might be another
one of those kind of chess moves that make you go, oh no, now I can't do this. But as we've seen,
you're on the different train at the moment. So yeah, I've gone for Oscar Piastri. As I
mentioned earlier, he'll bounce back from and yeah, get back into the kind of,
he's still got a healthy lead, not obviously an enormous lead. But you know, a solid P2
is kind of all he needs really, isn't it? To just kind of stay kind of going for that
championship charge and regain his confidence after last time.
LN. Absolutely. Now I'm running my own race, Tommy, in this predictions. I'm not thinking
about you, you know, you're Mark Webber in this situation. I'm Fernando Alonso and I
don't need a Sebastian Vell. You know, that's a good reference, but that, you know, I'm just
thinking about, you know, just where my vibes are right now. Where are your vibes, Tommy, for P1?
My vibes are with Lando Norris. I really do think Lando will be incredibly strong here. He was
last year, the McLaren, arguably even faster now. I know he's had not even a bad run that
the last race, of course, he got a lot of criticism for and I think, you know, deserved from the drive
he had also had some bad luck. But this track should suit him massively. He has been good at
these kind of circuits. You know, you're one at Hungary, you're one at Monaco. So yeah, I think
Lando is a sensible choice. But I've said that a lot this year. And, you know,
Nico Holkenberg's got a podium and so has Carlos Sainz and lots of crazy things happen.
So you never know enough one. Exactly. Okay, first position. Give me a second.
Don't look. You're not allowed to look, Tommy. Okay. The reveal will be like
the Mexico podium. My first position and for audio, this is not going to work, but you'll
have to watch it on YouTube as well. When can I look? You can look now. I'm here. I'm here.
Right. In first position. No, it's fine. I'm not wearing anything. I thought you were going
to change the Ferrari shirt. In first position, I have gone for
Max. Yes, I've gone for Max Verstappen. I was grabbing the car, Tommy,
not an outfit to change in front of you. This is an older car. My daughter is obsessed with
that song and has a little Max Verstappen toy that I bought back from our Netherlands show.
And that just gave me the vibe, like, because she is just singing that song all the time at the
moment. Maybe that's the good fortune he needs. And she has the Max Verstappen top, if we don't
forget. And you have been trying to summon the onesie powers. And well, technically,
it's got 100% ratio again because he won the Nurbegring race. Get it signed, Tommy,
pray we're inside it now. I've gone for Max Verstappen. This has zero logic to it.
This is purely just, I just want to, you know, Charlotte Clair is not fighting for the World
Championship. We all know whereup. My allegiance is really lie as I sit here with a red ball top
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And if Max can genuinely mount a championship charge, then sign me up and make everything
so much more interesting. Yeah. And me gloating in the post race podcast about
scoring a point backing your boy around a track he's never won at. Wow. That would feed generations.
So yeah, sign me up.
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Let's go to one crazy prediction. My one crazy prediction is there will not be
a singular yellow flag during the entirety of the Singapore Grand Prix.
Okay. And the reason I've gone for this is because I'd forgotten to write it in the sheet
and therefore I just made it up on the spot. And that is what I am going for.
That would suggest we've had a rather boring Sunday race. We'll be live on YouTube and Twitch,
so come and join us anyway. Matt, people want to tell me. Sorry, I just thought I'd segue
that in. But yes, I've gone for that because it's the literal segment is called Crazy.
And I think that's obscene. To be honest with you, I think I deserve two points.
It is quite obscene. I kind of need it to happen for mine as well.
So my one crazy prediction is, and sorry for the pessimism here, the first non-McLaren
is over 30 seconds off the lead. Oh, so even worse in terms of the competition than last
year where Max finished 20 seconds behind. Yeah, yeah. So 30 seconds off.
Obviously a very long race. Well, everybody should still tune in to the race and all
the post-race content that Tommy made. Of course. It's going to be, I'm hyped for it.
I hope I completely jinx the whole thing like I did with the red flags last time.
I love how our crazy predictions are very much pointing towards a certain level of
entertainment. Let's see if it does not go that way. Let's go to our Patreon prediction
where one of you, if you're part of the P1 Patreon, can submit a prediction and it
be part of our selection. Tommy, who have you gone for?
I have gone for Alec and it is Bortelate in the points. No way. Return to form.
No. Okay, it's fine. You carry on. You do your explanation and I'll get to mine.
Okay. My explanation is that I think he's going to have a good race here.
When was the last time he had points? Do you remember?
I think it was Hungary?
No, Monza. Even worse two races.
Hold on. Sorry. With our Patreon predictions, it's similar-ish to crazy predictions.
It needs to be crazy. Okay. I can change it.
So, Belgium scored two points, Hungary scored eight, Netherlands zero, Italy four, Azerbaijan zero.
So he has scored more times than not in the last five races.
That is absolutely ridiculous.
Tommy, whilst you figure out another Patreon prediction,
I'm going to go with mine and tell you why it's funny.
Because I went for Jensen's listening.
Incredible Hulk returns to the points.
And he's not been in the points since he scored a podium at Silverstone, which...
No way.
Yeah.
Has he actually not scored a point?
Not even a point.
Not?
Not scored a point in Silverstone.
Oh my God.
I was joking that he's just disappeared off the face of the earth.
No, no, he literally did.
His podium, but he literally has.
He's just given up.
So that's what I've gone for, which I think is a very fair prediction to put in the Patreon one.
Tommy's now going to submit one himself on a burner account that says
the five red lights will go out.
So let's see what Tommy will try and score a point on as I continue for the second time
this podcast to fill the gap whilst Tommy is scrolling.
This goes against my predictions, but I want it to happen.
And I was thinking about putting this driver in.
This is from Jack Lewis.
Hamilton gets his first Ferrari podium in honor of Roscoe.
Yeah.
Let's make that happen.
Big love.
That would be an amazing thing.
Of course, if you've missed it, I'm sure you haven't.
Hamilton's beloved dog Roscoe passed away.
And I hope, yeah, I hope that Hamilton can have an amazing result
because we all have pets or a lot of us have pets.
We know what it's like to lose something so dear to us.
So yeah, fingers crossed for Hamilton.
That would be quite the...
I mean, yeah, that would be pretty emotional, I think.
That'd be a great story, wouldn't it?
And what's not so great is you scoring a point off the back of it,
but that's...
We'll allow it for that one.
Yeah, we'll allow it.
Okay, let's head to the family top three.
I feel like next year this needs a jingle or something.
I feel like it's almost like family fortune.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
What?
Your family predicting?
Yeah, something like that.
Maybe not as bad as that, but family top three.
It's currently eight seven to the Boring Bellingham's.
It's very close indeed.
I am going to be calling my father.
Okay.
So let's see what my dad is cooking up this week.
It better be good.
Hello, Matt.
Hi, Dad.
How are you?
He knows.
He knew it was kind.
Look at this.
Everyone wonders where the presenter jeans come from.
There we go.
It's there.
Okay, Dad, right.
Talk to me.
P3 for Singapore.
P3 Lando Norris.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Second place.
Oscar Piaz III.
I feel like my dad's on a bit of a hype train here.
Well, P1.
P1, Max Verstappen.
That's hilarious.
So both me and you have gone for P1, Max Verstappen.
Tommy is willing to sacrifice the points
in the predictions champion.
I will.
I actually will.
Why, Dad?
Do you just feel?
I mean, you've said this before that Max is unstoppable.
You think he's going to win the championship, Mike?
I don't.
I really don't.
No way.
He's just on such a roll.
He is on a roll,
but he's going to a place he's never won before.
I don't.
Yeah, but that is a first for everything.
All right.
Cool.
He's going to do it.
He's going to do it, apparently.
Thank you, Dad.
Appreciate it.
We need the points.
We need the points.
Yeah, please.
Please score me some.
Thank you so much.
All right.
See you soon.
Love you.
Bye.
Love you.
Bye.
All right.
Okay.
So that's crazy.
That's annoying because I kind of hope they're on it.
Yeah, so I kind of...
Well, I hope you're right because obviously I want it for Mike.
Yeah, Max wins and you'll be like...
First I'll join them and then I'm like,
Oh, no, the prediction.
Oh, no.
Oh, no, anyway.
Yeah.
True.
Right.
There's one person more competitive.
I'm going to give my wife a call.
Oh.
I know how much she loves doing this segment.
Yeah, absolutely.
Dredding the phone.
Yeah, she is.
Hello, you're right.
Get it close to the mic.
Here we go.
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
So we're basically...
Our lead is being eroded quite massively,
so I need good predictions.
Don't think that's allowed.
Okay, no pressure then.
Cool.
Yeah, right.
P3.
I'm Oscar.
Are you for Oscar?
Same as me.
P2.
Max.
Oh, okay.
And P1.
Landé.
Okay, interesting.
So we've got the same as your dad's prediction,
but a different order.
All right.
Thanks for...
Thank you.
Oh, I thought I'd done the same again
because I think last time I predicted
it was literally identical.
It may well have been.
It was the same as that.
Oh, yeah, you did.
You did the blocking.
Well, we could block all the way to the finish,
but I appreciate it.
She's just listening.
All right.
Love you.
Bye.
Wow, she's...
I've never...
She loves...
Shit.
Honestly, she sounded exhausted by the end of that phone call.
Yeah.
She's like, stop calling me.
I'm downstairs.
Leave me alone.
That's brilliant.
Thank you, Katie, for getting involved.
Once again, I'll tell Tommy to not call you again.
I was going to say, I could just bring her in the rain,
but she'd take that even more.
Oh, no, yeah, that'd be her answer.
I mean, Ellie's literally downstairs as well.
I could literally just get her to come in,
but she's like, no, no, I need to be sure.
I'm ready for the P1 podcast appearance.
Right, that is it.
Thank you, everybody, for tuning in to our predictions.
We will find out how washed or amazing they have been.
We will be live on Twitch and YouTube,
Matt P1.
Tommy, if you want to come and watch along with us
for the conclusion of this F1 season,
Tommy, what are your final thoughts?
Just you saying the conclusion of this F1 season,
it's really sunk in how like, you know,
we're getting to the business end of the championship.
We are.
And I'm hyped for it.
The business end of the predictions championship,
more importantly.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Exactly.
Sign me up.
Right.
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