Paul Jr and Rachel Spill the TEA on Their Marriage and Design Secrets

Speaker 1: Max the dog, Max the dog, Yes, old Maxie here, we should talk about him. Let's talk about him. Oh,

never mind, he's gone. Oh he's a mama's boy. That's

the problems this dog. I've never seen a dog be

such a mom as boy. I've been trying to bond

with this guy. He loves me, but he is infatuated

with my wife.

Speaker 2: I know.

Speaker 1: Okay, all right, why don't we set it up for Max?

Where'd we get him?

Speaker 2: We got Max? Well, should we tell the backstory?

Speaker 1: Yeah, let's give him backstory.

Speaker 2: Okay, So you had an appearance in North New Jersey and there was a rescue that was there. They had

all these puppies.

Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well back it up though we had so everybody knows, uh, our dog's Abraham and Isaac. Oh maybe

not everyone, but they were on the show. People knew

about him. Abraham passed away at eight. He he died

kind of young, and that was a heartbreaker because he was like the best dog we.

Speaker 2: Ever, model dog, perfect, like a kitten, like a gentle giant.

Speaker 1: And then we had the warmer honor Isaac.

Speaker 2: He had a screw loose.

Speaker 1: He was nuts until he was well. He lived to

sixteen that of unheard of. But he had a lot

of rough years, not so much physically because he was like, even though he was losing his like eyesight and his hearing, he's still uh he was not in pain. No, he

just got old.

Speaker 2: Yeah real. He was happy.

Speaker 1: He was happy, and we were paying attention to that.

And but for three years, this dog was not aware of where he went to the bathroom, how he went to the bathroom. He would walk from one end of

the room to.

Speaker 2: The other hee and be swinging the whole way.

Speaker 1: I mean he this dog would cover ground right.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: So as much as we loved having him around and he was such a part of our family for sixteen years, yeah, it wasn't a good It was a you know, it was a slow three year ending. Yeah, And eventually he

just couldn't once they can't eat or stand, and we knew it was time. We had to put him to sleep.

And we totally loved him, but he was a lot.

Speaker 2: Yeah. So well, and after that that was the first

time we were without any dog. I was like, no

more dogs, Yes, and we thought we'd go without for a while. Yeah, especially since it was a lot of

work towards the end.

Speaker 1: It was a lot of work for a lot of years.

Speaker 2: Which is like crazy to even think about.

Speaker 1: It really is, because like I've had so many dogs through the years, or I've had enough dogs where usually they go pretty quick, you know.

Speaker 2: Well, sixteen, that's like I heard of Yeah, Gabe, he was eight, and wyams are supposed to be like I think, like what like ten or so roughly like ten.

Speaker 1: To twelve, ten to twelve.

Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're like, we are not going to get a second dog because we always like having two dogs because we feel like, you know, Isaac will be next and that you know, the age difference will be so big, so we'll wait and get two at the same time.

And then he lived a whole another eight.

Speaker 1: Years, eight years longer than Abe.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Abe lived to a people. Isaac lived to sixteen. And

I love them both. Yeah, but if I had to

pick one that would have lived.

Speaker 2: To sixteen, that's so terrible.

Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been Isaac, You're sick? Hey, I love him both.

But Abe was such a he was so good, he was such a great.

Speaker 2: It wasn't that he was well be a giant.

Speaker 1: His personality was fantastic.

Speaker 2: He was so good.

Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, So to your point. I feel like

we got an Abe here. I know, this dog is

probably the best dog I ever met, which has been very so okay, so okay. So we're at a charity event.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and there is a rescue that's there and they have all these puppies and I see a puppy in the tent next to where you were. Someone was holding

the puppy and it actually reminded me of Abe I had, Like, you know, I actually looked to see if there was a ridge on his back. I was like, can I

see this back? And I was like, oh, She's like, oh,

there's a bunch of puppies over there. Go see them.

You know, they have a whole bunch here.

Speaker 1: And then you come over to me and I'm like, what's up. You're like, we have to go look at

these puppies.

Speaker 2: And I was like, maybe we should go just look at them.

Speaker 1: And in that very moment, I.

Speaker 2: Knew I didn't.

Speaker 1: I knew I did. I knew there was a chance

that if we found one that was good.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but who you know, I don't know. I thought

we'd go over.

Speaker 1: There and well I knew there was a fix and leave.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not quite with that what happened.

Speaker 2: So we went over and there were a bunch of dogs and someone said, oh, that dog that I was looking at got adopted. I wasn't specifically, you were disappointed,

tiny tiny toe a lot.

Speaker 1: Yes, you were, man, you were pacing, pacing.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you.

Speaker 1: Love that dog. Right away, You're like, let's adopt that dog.

I was like, what are you talking about? Okay, you

did want that dog.

Speaker 2: No, that is the dog that got me over to go look at the dogs.

Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, and then he was laying down, yes,

when we came over and his face was buried.

Speaker 2: He's a girl, and we're kind of like, you know, boy dog. Yeah, I don't know why, but yeah. So anyway,

we were looking at all the dogs and they were jumping all over and being wild little puppies, and this one was just sleeping with his head down, and I was like, I want to see what that dog looks like.

Speaker 1: We couldn't see his face because he just saw his body hanging out.

Speaker 2: Yeah. So oh we left. We left, and you did

the rest of the appearance, and before we left for the entire day, I was like, let's stop back over, right.

Speaker 1: We did, and then they were like, uh, oh, do you want to walk him? Yeah? Do you want us

to take him out? Because he was in like a

little pen.

Speaker 2: And I'm like, I said yeah, I said no.

Speaker 1: Yeah, Rachel says no, I say yeah. So the dog

comes out, and right away I noticed something about the dog that he's just super chill, like mega chill, and so we bring him out. As soon as he comes out,

he rolls on his back. And then I noticed he

did that for everyone who approached him. He was very submissive,

but in a very extremely friendly way.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like scared right yeah.

Speaker 1: And then I picked him up, dude, and this dog was just limp, never met me before, just trusted me right away, Like his legs were right. He was like

dead weight. And you know when dogs are anxious, they'll

tighten up, you'll feel them like you'll hold him, but they'll get all yeah, they'll get like rigid. He didn't

do that, and I was like, oh, man, I think this is a good dog. And like, think about it.

Most people go and get dogs and it's like they don't know what they're getting. We didn't know what we

were getting, and we did. We could have got the

worst dog.

Speaker 2: In the world. And he was so good, and we're like,

we're getting a second one. And the second one came

and he was like a lunatic.

Speaker 1: Yeah. And we thought because they were both good looking

or similar looking, yeah, that it was going to be the same. It was not. So Anyways, we fall in

love with this dog and we didn't even know it yet, right, like, put the dog back. We're not ready for this.

Speaker 2: We've got a lot going on. We're like in between.

Speaker 1: Meanwhile, meanwhile, Hudson's never had his own dog.

Speaker 2: He was born into having what.

Speaker 1: Pretty much Isaac, Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much Isaac. And

so by the time he like connected, Isaac was an old miser. Yeah, and he was. He was fine. He

was part of the family. But I don't think it

was like a puppy.

Speaker 2: No, it wasn't like his dog. It was like just

the dog.

Speaker 1: So this is like the first dog we've had that is our son's dog as well. So he's like, this

dog is like a fourth member of our family now, you know.

Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, he is so good.

Speaker 1: He is the best dog I've ever met. And I've

met some amazing dogs through the years. Where you ever

meet someone and their dog is like, like, how where does a dog like that come from? This? Is that

that type dog? He's just gentle, he's very sensitive, he's

super smart. Right, he picks everything up right away.

Speaker 2: Ye, sleeps at the night really good, really good.

Speaker 1: I don't know how big he's gonna be, but it doesn't much matter.

Speaker 2: It's your skin. So I'm a little worried about how

big he's gonna be.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think he's what's he thirty

five pounds now?

Speaker 2: Yeah? Roughly?

Speaker 1: So maybe what fifty to seventy?

Speaker 2: We think maybe five month?

Speaker 1: Yeah or so? Yeah, And we looked into it a

little bit. He's a black mouth cur.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we think, mixed with a catahula leopard dog.

Speaker 1: We were gonna amazing.

Speaker 2: Sure. His sister was like a brindly, very brindle, totally opposite.

Speaker 1: Looking, Yes, looked like a dingo.

Speaker 2: And he was, yes, from Louisiana.

Speaker 1: From Louisiana. Yeah. Yeah, it's a down South dog and

supposedly they make really good like family pets. And man,

he's just he's been perfect and we've had him so we picked him up on Memorial Days. Yeah, yeah, how

long has that been? Now? Month?

Speaker 2: Just under yeah under a month.

Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so good man up.

Speaker 2: So it's All Humane Animal Rescue is where we got him from in North New Jersey.

Speaker 1: An All Humane Animal Rescue dot org dot org.

Speaker 2: Okay, and they rescue everything. We went there, we bought

Hudson and we got to see they had a baby deer, they had a horse, They had guinea hens, chickens, porcupines. Yeah, yeah,

all sort of three legged fox yeah. Yeah. They just

rescue everything.

Speaker 1: They rescue. They had flying squirrels. I mean these guys rescue.

There are the people you call when you find anything. Yeah,

and they know how to take care of it. Really

important because it's like a miniature farm it is. And

her name's Lisa, who runs the place. And she asked

me if we would help her out. She said, you know, uh,

money's tight in the summer. Yeah, because no, she said,

adoptions way down in the summer. You know, people are

on vacation and whatever. She said, is there any way

you can help us out? So we would like to

try and help them out, even by giving out the information.

Right now, she's wanting to give her cell number out.

She doesn't care, you know, when people are in that position and they care about animals. They're not worried about

anything other than making sure that those animals are gonna survive, succeed.

You know, they're also helping them that have injuries.

Speaker 2: Yes, you know.

Speaker 1: So what was the website?

Speaker 2: I believe it's all Humane Rescue dot.

Speaker 1: Org, all human Rescue dot.

Speaker 2: Organ Animal Rescue dot work.

Speaker 1: And how were they able to donate money? People?

Speaker 2: It's right on the website.

Speaker 1: It's right on the website. So you just go to

that website.

Speaker 2: They PayPal and.

Speaker 1: If you feel lead to eything will help, anything.

Speaker 2: Will help help me see what they do. And it

was amazing. They don't turn away animals.

Speaker 1: And here's what's crazy about them. And you know, I

should probably have her on because I thought she was very interesting. She was like a super animal person, right,

And they have like a process. They will get like

an injured animal, nurse it back to health, or even have baby animals, yes, like little raccoons. And what they

do is because they have like this miniature farm. When

I say many, I mean they're packed in there, but everything is cared for and they literally will bring these things up and they will do it in such a manner that they have a process towards wild release.

Speaker 2: Yeah, they try to rehabilitate and then kind of start to separate it from kind of human contact and have it be a little bit more wild so that they're ready to be released.

Speaker 1: Yes. And I think this is like a generational family place. Ye.

I know this woman, Lisa, her mother apparently was like an animal whisper and they saved everything. Yeah, and so

they know how to handle just about any type of animal and how to rehabilitate them and then release them back into the wild.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty unique. There's a lot of

shelters out there that you can get dogs and cats, but this is like, like, well, I think the namesake says it all. So I think if we can help

them out, and I think if anyone wanted to be generous I think.

Speaker 2: Or wants to get a dog.

Speaker 1: Or wants to get a.

Speaker 2: Dog, christer was available no longer.

Speaker 1: No longer we thought about it. No, Apparently that the

sister went to a really good home. Yeah, but yeah,

we recommend this place. I like it. It was really

I was like, where are what are we doing here?

And then you know, quickly you realized, Wow, these guys are doing some great work, you know. I mean they

told us they had a beaver at one time that they used to have to put in the tub. Beaver

had like damage to its tail or something.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's pretty it's pretty amazing. I guess we

should set this up. We're gonna watch something that's pretty

awesome to me. It's a spoof we did on Fast

and Loud, right.

Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty twelve and.

Speaker 1: It was around what time when were we? Uh it

was there was a reason we did it. Build off

to build off too, yes, which is bike.

Speaker 2: Just discovered this on my computer.

Speaker 1: Yes, this has been in the lost archives of Paul Junior Designs for a very long time now, and it was around this bike and it was our live build in Vegas. It was our second time, ye right, because

twenty eleven was the copper and aluminum bike we won with against occ and Jesse James. And then this time

they asked if they added Fast and Loud, So it was a four way build off and we thought those guys were just clowns, and maybe we were wrong, but at the time it was very competitive. So we we

shot this spoof. We and we had great We had

our full production, right, I.

Speaker 2: Think there was like an employee that came right, wasn't there.

Speaker 1: Yes, one of the people who was on the show early on, who then no longer was on the show came down. I think. I don't say he was disgruntled,

super nice guy, but I think he like had his opinion.

Speaker 2: Leaned into it. You know, we leaned in the perfect opportunity.

Speaker 1: That's right. So we created this spoof on Fast and Loud,

which is called Lost and Found. And uh, I have

to tell you.

Speaker 2: Man, I don't know if I've ever left so hard.

It is good and ridiculous.

Speaker 1: And I gotta be honest with you. I had I

had my little moments. But Cody and Vinnie steal the show.

Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Cody.

Speaker 1: Cody and Vinnie steal this.

Speaker 2: One from this that I still say today because they're so hysterical.

Speaker 1: I don't I will say I think Cody and Vinnie were amazing. Yea, Vinnie looked fantastic, but Cody, well, actually

Cody was Richard rawlins that dove in. All right, let's

fire it off, man, Let's watch this thing and we could probably talk over it. I think, right, I don't

know sure, I like my coat so good? Welcome to

tonight's episode of Loston Found, where the boys try proving to the entire world once again, and they know what they're doing. This episode, Aaron meets up with Ricky. That's

in a remote field a long ways away. Wait that's Aaron. Yeah,

I found your car over here. What did you do?

What the hell do you buy? Now?

Speaker 2: We gotta we got a Mustang right over here in the bushes.

Speaker 1: I love this be I love it on you. I

don't want to get thirty. Give me a ride. I

love it. Idea? All right?

Speaker 2: Is that diamond and the rough?

Speaker 1: I was talking about? What the hell you're looking at here?

You think we could do it?

Speaker 2: This is a piece of got rust all over it, old tires, got a carcass on the hood.

Speaker 1: Yep, they don't even got a rid of your mirror.

I don't care.

Speaker 2: I want it, but I think we could paint it.

Speaker 1: We could slam it, we could put some rims on it.

The boys had another rare fine and lose some money the next auction. I love his beard, I love all

the leafs and his beard. Over to the best mechanic

in Texas.

Speaker 2: If we got here here can't smoky garage you give this play legitimacy. I'll tell you what that legitimate sensation.

I already told you, Richard, my wife already sold them justin beaver dikets. How's she going?

Speaker 1: So this guy, he was on fast and loud, right, I already sold it for four times until we got in it. Some English.

Speaker 2: That's wonderful.

Speaker 1: How about that? Oh that one? The dad love the

bell bond tie?

Speaker 2: How young you are?

Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm such a baby face. I love

Cody's moves here man, look at him. Look at him

spray painting his own hair. So good, so starsky and

hutch until.

Speaker 2: Then comes along its belly share.

Speaker 1: Yeah, with the hot glue and the bedazzling. Wow. I

love his point, you, Richard. Six weeks later and the

car was finally complete and the auction day had finally arrived. Now,

I'm only a champion bike building, but I have to believe that certain cars have no business at certain auctions.

And now on to the next piece of business on our block. For the Pebble Beats auction nineteen eighty six Mustang,

I don't marn't have been at five hundred dollars Flexen hundred, one hundred free.

Speaker 2: Anybody just want to take it, Okay, we'll give you fifty dollars.

Speaker 1: If you want to take this in the car, I'll give you fifty bucks. Anyone fifty dollars to the lady.

Speaker 2: Right there, and I hear a hundred, one hundred, one hundreds of the jumping right there going once, going twice sold to the guy for one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1: Wo coratulations. Congratulations, sir, thank you. I just want to

tell you this is ass Monkey's finest ass monkey of our shop and it is my personal favorite.

Speaker 2: So if you ever end up with any problems, please do not bring your leaves.

Speaker 1: Now you know, will do you hear one hundred dollars bills?

Speaker 2: So Crazy's be real?

Speaker 1: What well you guys spailed again? Doesn't that ever get old?

I would a bear like this now when you look this, damn.

Speaker 2: Love Cody's enthusiasm.

Speaker 1: And they are full making out or mechanical skills. So

tune in next week to see if they can make a profit on anything. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, I

just gotta warm up real quick.

Speaker 2: So good.

Speaker 1: I love that is so good. If you know fast

and loud, dude, that is the perfect parody.

Speaker 2: For and I have like all these like behind the scenes, like I was like videoing where we just stopped because we were laughing so hard.

Speaker 1: That was good. It was some good stuff.

Speaker 2: Well, well, well.

Speaker 1: Listen, I think it's good. We're doing a podcast together,

me and you. I mean we did some like early

on half ass ones. They weren't really that. We just

weren't where we are now with it. Yeah, we're more

professional ish speak for yourself. No, seriously, we got a

better set up. We got better sound, better audio, better visual,

better everything. We have lighting, we have three cameras, headphones

which are huge. Don't you think it makes a big difference,

kind of kind of put you in the conversation and like the room Like I'm like, I'm like.

Speaker 2: There's less distraction, distracted everything.

Speaker 1: So this this right here and this is I'm honed in. U.

You're the only thing in the room, babe.

Speaker 2: See for me, I don't like to hear myself talking.

Speaker 1: No one does. But you know, it's better to hear

that than like everything else going on. At least it's

put you. You're listening to me in your ears, you know.

So all right, let's get into it.

Speaker 2: Okay, what's going on?

Speaker 1: With our lives.

Speaker 2: What is going on with our lives?

Speaker 1: We don't freaking no, man. We had a lot of

things we do well.

Speaker 2: We're making the plunge, the full commitment to staying in New Jersey.

Speaker 1: That's been like we did, we made we made the commitment already.

Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of lamb, which is what we're looking for because that's what we're used to.

Speaker 1: Two and a half acres. It's pretty fantastic. We're excited.

We're going to renovate the house.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be a very big undertaking. But

I think it's going to be very Uh.

Speaker 1: I think it's been a good It's gonna be a good thing.

Speaker 2: It's exciting. But like I was saying, we're taking the plunge.

So we just recently put our New York house up for sale. That's right, we are doing it.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so we bought a house here in New Jersey. Yes,

but we haven't sold our house in New York. Yes,

And that's a whole thing.

Speaker 2: Okay, that is a whole thing.

Speaker 1: It is a whole thing. We would really like to

just get out of the New.

Speaker 2: York at this point. Yes, it took us forever to

like pull the trigger. But now that we have, we're

like ready to do it.

Speaker 1: And it's like the best house in the world. Five

acres just so long. Yeah, seven hundred feet of riverfront property. Fantastic.

I mean it is. It's for the right person, I know.

But you know, so anyways, we are going to renovate the house we bought here in New Jersey.

Speaker 2: Me and you know, yes, it's going to be a gut job.

Speaker 1: So it's going to be a gut job.

Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's going to be I'm very excited about it.

Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the most exciting part is that we

just signed a development deal with a production company and our restoration or renovation of the house is going to be like the A storyline. Yeah, and I think it

will be really good.

Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's very timely because it's something that

we're really doing in real time right now. And when

you look at like my vision board for everything, I know that that house could be. It's going to take

quite a bit of work.

Speaker 1: It's going to take a lot of work, but I think it's going to be fun.

Speaker 2: It will be fun.

Speaker 1: It's like it's like building a house, but you don't have to build the whole house.

Speaker 2: Yes, the place has great bones.

Speaker 1: It does. It's got great bones. The potentials there the property.

Speaker 2: We love.

Speaker 1: The property is I mean a little pond.

Speaker 2: It backs up to all of that state owned land, so it used to be Cranberry bogs, which is really cool.

Speaker 1: Yep, it's all Cranberry Bogs. There's all these great trails

behind us, and it's pretty spectacular it is, and I think once we get into it, it's going to be really good, you know.

Speaker 2: Yep.

Speaker 1: It's interesting though, So when we just signed a development deal, which means I feel like television is right, it's right around the corner for us, I do think so. And

I think we have a lot to offer in that way.

And I mean that not just because we would be like renovating this whole house and property, Yeah, but I feel like also to be able to do bikes and cars and all the things people love to see us do, plus renovate. Let's just call it our dream home for now,

right and see what we do with it, because it needs a lot.

Speaker 2: It's very dated, it is, it is.

Speaker 1: But my wife has a tremendous vision for this, so much so that we bought it before we sold our new York House a.

Speaker 2: Few minutes to get on board. I didn't know what

I'm talking about.

Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, yeah you do. I think you're right. It

did take me in It took me more than a minute to get on board. A matter of fact, when

Rachel showed me this property the first time, at.

Speaker 2: Least six months before, we actually looked at it seriously.

Speaker 1: And what did I say?

Speaker 2: You swiped through two pictures and you said I will never live here, and I was like, you didn't even give it a chance.

Speaker 1: I did say that, But then we saw the property, and you know, it's funny how that works. You look

at it and it's like eh, And then you get there and you're like, huh.

Speaker 2: Well then and you start to see like the vision, like we could do this here, we could do that there, and we can move this there.

Speaker 1: Yes. And a big factor here, honestly, is our son Hudson.

Speaker 2: Yes.

Speaker 1: We've been on the island for what four years now.

He grew up with some property. He grew up on

the river in the mud. And the island's great, but

it's you're on top of each other. There's no acreage,

there's nowhere to ride quads or do all the things boys like to do, and so I feel like, and he's a nature kid, he's an animal lover, he's an insect lover. Right, Yeah, So I think he's really missed that.

And you know the thing is when he was young, he experienced it in New York, and then we moved here, and even though I think it was the best move for us, I feel like he lost out on a lot of that. So I think he's just as excited

as we.

Speaker 2: Are surprisingly about the movie. I didn't know how he

was going to be about that because he has like, yeah, well, he doesn't want to let go of anything.

Speaker 1: I feel like his endorsement put us over the time on the decision. Yeah, because he was like, okay, just

don't say you're gonna do it and not do it.

I know, I know that's all he was worried about.

Not that we do that a lot, but you know.

Speaker 2: But we didn't even tell him until we had bought it.

Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Remember, because we were.

Speaker 2: Going back and forth. We weren't really sure. We didn't

want to like, you know, that's we were doing something.

Speaker 1: Well, we will. We brought him there and warmed aboup

to it. We got his temperature on it, and he

seemed amenable to him. Yes, yes, you know, because you

can have dogs and chickens and you know, you can have like a little farm there, which I think he would love and we would love. Yes, so uh anyway,

so he was a big factor here. But you know,

we're in this like in between space, right, Yeah, we we haven't we haven't gotten a show yet, but we're in a development deal with a really good production company who has who loves what we're about and thinks that it could be very good. I also agree. I feel

like there's a I don't know. I just think some

of these shows from the past are coming back, and I think what we do and how we do it, there's an appetite for out there, and I think we can have a lot of fun doing it, especially with your vision for the house. You know, I feel like

this house could really be I think we can make it spectacular, think and you know, we're both hands on.

Speaker 2: I feel like that's like the thing. I feel like

everything that we're looking to do is very obtainable if somebody is handy, you know, yes, throwing money at it.

Speaker 1: Yes, almost like we can have a very sophisticated look without just throwing money at in other words, budget conscious.

Speaker 2: We like that and design forward for thinking all of the design elements.

Speaker 1: So it looks rich, but it's you don't have to spend all the money on it. Yeah, so I think you're.

Speaker 2: Right choose where you want to.

Speaker 1: You know, it's creative ways to get the end result.

I think that'll be very interesting. It's not just here's

you know, a million dollars, see what you can do.

Of course you can kill it. I think you figure

out creative ways.

Speaker 2: It's very hands on. So like we've built out places

in the past, we tell, you know, businesses and homes and things of that nature, and like the two of us together, the way that we tackle a project is very I don't know. I always feel like we end

up very much on the same pace very quickly. Yes,

so I think to take on this house as our home.

We've done a second home before, we've done like the beach house before and things of that nature, but like a place that we are actually going to call our home and live in and start from scratch because it needs to be gutted really for what it does, it.

Speaker 1: Pretty much needs to be gutted. But that's okay. We

like that, Yeah, I thought, and I like doing this time.

I mean even building out this space. Think about it

took us like six months to build out my shop in your shop, Yeah, I had. I enjoyed the process well.

Speaker 2: Even early on. If anyone had stopped by very early on,

they probably saw me on a ladder somewhere painting or hanging the sign.

Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I think we could do a lot

of the work ourselves and make a huge difference, and even maybe call in some relatives to help pull up the old floors and stuff like that. Yeah, I think

it's going to be really good, man, Yeah, I do.

I think it's going to be really good. I love

the property, I love the location. I love the street.

We won't say that name now, but it's a great name.

Speaker 2: So that's like one of the biggest factors. Also, the

idea that the property is not just a cleared square, you know. Yeah's kind of like very organic and there's

tree and there's clearings, and I feel like there's like a lot of opportunity to do some really cool, like nooky things within the property. And there's a small pond and.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so the aesthetic of the house is like a modern Victorian it.

Speaker 2: Is, but missing some elements to really put it over the top.

Speaker 1: Yeah, we wanted to look like a late eighteen hundreds Victorian.

Speaker 2: I would say it like kind of like a coastal yes Victorian.

Speaker 1: Yes, And I think I think we're going to pull it off. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2: Oh, I know we will.

Speaker 1: And I think it would make great television. I really do,

because you know we're hands on, We're going to make this.

To me, it's a giant bike build. That's the why

I look at it. Now. You have more of a

vision because your gift is more in the way of interior and exterior and house. And I know you spend

your whole life looking at different options and colors and all that. So I feel like the way I build

motorcycles is the way you would design this house. That's

the way I feel about it. What's exciting to me

is I like that type of work, and I know I can contribute. Yeah, but certainly you have the overall vision.

And the fun part is it's not just the house into your exterior, but there's also this two and a half acres with a pond in the backyard. There are

these giant trees, pine trees out back kind and there is so much cedar. Yes, matter of fact, when the

when the breeze comes through the woods, it just smells like cedar. There's that many cedar trees and there's some

monster seeds on the property, which is really great. So

we're going to figure out a way to like lay this thing out in a very methodical way.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want to remove too many trees like that is what's so charming about the property. I feel like, yeah,

kind of a little bit untouched right now, and it would just be like every other.

Speaker 1: You know, property out there completely and there's so many like natural nooki areas where you just like walk into the woods and then there's like a little opening. Yes,

oh man, it's gonna be so good.

Speaker 2: I have so many visions scared you do you do?

Speaker 1: Honestly, Again, when we first started looking at this, I wasn't into it. But then every time you talked about

it and tell me your vision, because I didn't have the same vision. I didn't have the same like I

have vision. I just didn't have your vision. And every

time you brought it up, I was like, yeah, yeah, there.

Speaker 2: Are like different areas this over there, yes, you could do this there very.

Speaker 1: Very and like with the hydranges and everything else, we don't have to get way into it a favorite. Even

the shape of the property. We're hoping to be able

to build a building for me.

Speaker 2: On yes, be the goal.

Speaker 1: Yeah, move everything, cars, bikes, signs, potentially.

Speaker 2: Have room for all your stuff.

Speaker 1: And then maybe the workshop on the side.

Speaker 2: Well, that would be nice to get everything under one roof exactly.

Speaker 1: So that's what we've been up to pretty much. Yeah,

other than this dog we just rescued. Yeah, all right,

so let's just get straight into it, because this is something that has bugged my wife forever, and I can understand why.

Speaker 2: To be honest, well, I feel like I kind of did you a favor and did you a solid.

Speaker 1: You did? You did? You were young and naive. I mean,

let's be on.

Speaker 2: You asked me to do it, I did.

Speaker 1: Well. Okay, So I'm gonna set this up so everybody

wants to know how we met. Maybe some people know,

but a lot of people don't. The truth is, well,

let's talk about how we met, and then we'll talk about how the people who watched the show think we met. Yeah,

fair enough, So let's set that up. Okay. We met

in Atlantic City, Yes, on Djhachie's birthday.

Speaker 2: That's true, or his birthday party whatever it was that he was having.

Speaker 1: And it was two thousand and seven, seven in September.

Speaker 2: September, yeah, like.

Speaker 1: Ninth or something seventh, I want.

Speaker 2: To say, like fourteenth. Okay, potentially we had to look back.

It was like maybe like six months later, We're like, when do we meet?

Speaker 1: You used to always send me the anniversary of the time we met.

Speaker 2: In my phone?

Speaker 1: Well, what is it? I see what happens after fifteen years, Man,

these things become so lesson.

Speaker 2: No, it was like six months after and we had to look back to see.

Speaker 1: Kidney used to give me a card for this date.

Speaker 2: Oh, come on, let me say September anniversary, the day you met your love. There you go, Sunday, September fourteenth.

Speaker 1: Okay, Sunday September fourteenth.

Speaker 2: It wasn't a Sunday, but it is, Oh it is it is this year. Okay.

Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna guessing it wasn't a Sunday because we were partying.

Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday, Friday, fair enough.

Speaker 1: It was a Friday or Saturday, almost guaranteed. So we

met at the.

Speaker 2: Yes, I was at with my friends.

Speaker 1: And we met that. We met at a club called

Murmur Murmur, Yeah, which was like in the basement at the border.

Speaker 2: Yes, it was like downstairs, Yeah, downstairs.

Speaker 1: It was me and my buddy Johnny there for the weekend.

We were frequents there. We'd like to go and play

three card and try our luck and blow all our money on gambling back then, you know, so two thousand and seven, I was my thirties, mid thirties. Yeah, yeah,

and we were there for the weekend, and I remember we were downstairs and we went down, me and Johnny.

We got like our little special area where we could get drink service and stuff, because you know, by that time we were I was pretty spoiled with all that.

And uh, I don't know. We were hanging out looking

to have like a nice night, and this group of girls came in.

Speaker 2: Is that that me?

Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you came in with other girls.

Speaker 2: I did, my girlfriend Lindsay, probably a few other friends.

I think my friend Dina was there. I think that's

why I went out that night. I wasn't even going

to go out that night.

Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, so they come in and I don't

know for whatever reason, like I looked over and I saw this like girl. She looked like she was like

seven feet tall.

Speaker 2: I was in heels and I.

Speaker 1: Was like, dude, look at this girl man. And it

was Rachel and she was looking hotter than a firecracker.

I gotta tell you, man, it was unbelievable. I was like,

what just happened to me? Just now? And you had

these like shorts on and like these I don't know, man, you were looking like a snack to me that night.

I'm gonna be honest with you. And I said it

to Johnny and then and then I remember someone introduced us right and then.

Speaker 2: Right, I'll jump in there, jump in there. Okay. So

I was there with friends and I knew like the bartender, and I think I was like talking to someone that I knew, and someone came up to me who worked there, and they said, oh, we want to introduce you to somebody.

And I said okay, and they're like, oh, it's Paul Junior or whatever. I was like okay, and they're like,

but he's in the bathroom. I'll come back and get you,

I swear, And I was like okay, and then they walked away. And I was like, that was the weirdest

thing ever, you know, And I did not stay where they told me to stay. I was like, yeah, no,

So I had like walked away with my girlfriend. And

then eventually someone came back over to introduce us.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Well you weren't hard to find in the crowd,

by the way, yeah at all. So anyways, so then

we met, right, we got introduced, We started having a conversation yep. And then I don't know, you noticed my

one dimple, Well I have one on my left side and you have one dimple on your left side, and that was it. We got married after that, that was it.

Then we started talking and we went right upstairs. Yeah,

we like left the club, went upstairs and I started playing what was I playing?

Speaker 2: Roulette?

Speaker 1: Roulette or something like that like that.

Speaker 2: Well, I think at the time you there was you smoked.

Speaker 1: I did. I smoked cigarettes at the yes, and there was.

Speaker 2: No I think you were thought you were going to be able to light a cigarette down there.

Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I was like, what are you doing,

Like you can't smoke down I was like, oh, oh sorry, so you have to go upstairs.

Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I was like, oh, I'll go upstairs with you, and then our friends were like came upstairs and they're like you both of us, Like you left us.

Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. We boiled, We just disappeared. Yeah, and

uh and then we just hung out like most of the night, you know. And then uh and then eventually

you went home, and uh, I went off to bed, and I'll never forget because the next morning we came down, me and.

Speaker 2: Johnny, we went to we went out to eat. After

we went to that, Johnny was falling asleep and people were taking this food as they.

Speaker 1: Were eating his food. That's right, he was, and he

was like this yeah, back back. Yeah. But anyway, so

the night ended, you went home. I went back up

to the room, and I'll never forget. In the morning,

me and Johnny got up to like go get breakfast.

They got that big buck buffet there, you know. And

uh so I got out of the elevator and there was like a little kiosk at the bottom at the Borgotta at the elevator, which I don't know, it's like movable. Right,

So we go down and.

Speaker 2: Oh, I probably should have mentioned that I had worked at.

Speaker 1: The Borgota, right, you had worked at the Borgatta for for quite a few years. Yeah, yeah, and okay, well

then all right, so then that's fine, you're right.

Speaker 2: So Rachel worked, I knew everybody there.

Speaker 1: Yeah, Rachel worked at the Borgatta and anyway, So we got down, we got out of the elevator. There was

a little kiosk where we went to buy cigarettes of all things, you know. And then so Johnny goes, hey,

that's the girl you were hanging out with last night.

And I said where and he goes right here, and there's a there's a calendar hanging up that you could buy, and Rachel was on the cover of the calendar and it was the Borgotta Girls. Yeah, anyway, So I was like,

no way, and he's like, yeah, dude, that's her right there.

Like I didn't even see it. So I'm like, dude,

I'm buying that calendar. So I ended up buying the

calendar and a couple packs of cigarettes or whatever, you know, for the day. But so that was it. Man. Then

after that we started talking and.

Speaker 2: I hung out again that night.

Speaker 1: Right, that's right. I was working, Oh you were working

at you were working at where do.

Speaker 2: We Tropicana Tropicandra? Okay, that's right, yep. So I came

over afterwards after I got off work, and we hung out for a while, and then you were trying to get me to come upstairs to watch a movie.

Speaker 1: Not me. Yeah, I would never do that.

Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 1: I was like, come on, We'll just watch a movie.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: You would not go for it. This girl would not

go for it. And I was like, you know, just

a movie. I know, it's three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going home, goodbye. Well, you know, fun

hanging out for the weekend.

Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were in love already. I was you

were You had to like really hold back that night, you wish I think.

Speaker 2: No, Actually, I thought you were really funny.

Speaker 1: And I thought you were, like I am funny.

Speaker 2: You were very fun to hang out with. Nothing happened

at all, no nothing, and I thought, okay, goodbye, nice meeting you. You know, you went back up to New York.

I thought I'd never hear from you again. No worries.

Right then I called and then you wouldn't stop calling.

Speaker 1: I feel like this was very mutual. I could be wrong. Uh, anyways,

you're right. I mean we started getting into it. We

started talking more uh, you know, it became more of a thing, and then you know, over time, we just we were like a good fit. Man.

Speaker 2: Well, it was two weeks later that, oh, you were trying to get me to come up to hang outurse.

That's like two and a half three hours from where I lived in New Jersey. Yeah, and I think you

were trying to be.

Speaker 1: Like, now, let's set this up age wise, okay, okay, because I was thirty five.

Speaker 2: You were not thirty five.

Speaker 1: I was thirty four.

Speaker 2: You were you were twenty six, you were turning thirty three.

Speaker 1: Okay, yes, okay, So I was thirty two and you were what.

Speaker 2: So at the time I was twenty four or something?

Was I twenty four? Gosh, it was a lifetime ago, man,

it was I was twenty four. Yeah, my gosh.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a long time ago. You were twenty

four and I was like thirtirty two or something like that, which makes sense. That math seems to work pretty well, yes, man, Yes,

so glad at the time man, I was, I don't know, we were just we had such a good time in those early days.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so two weeks later you were trying to get me to come up to visit you. Yes,

and you were trying to be I don't know what's the word, I'm looking for something like that. You're like,

also send a car for you?

Speaker 1: Oh boy, who says that? Yeah, I was like, kind

of dude says that.

Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm like, you're a stranger.

Speaker 1: Oh please, you did not think I was a stranger.

Speaker 2: I told you I would not come up unless I drove and I bring a friend. That's the only way

I would come up.

Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, that's true.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you were two and a half hours away.

Speaker 1: You could have been a second and you brought some weird chick with you.

Speaker 2: That's because my girlfriend Lindsey me and I wasn't going to come. Yeah, and then this girl I worked with

said I'll go with you, and I was like really, and that was it.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't fun for Johnny.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: We tried to set her up with Johnny and she was a handful. Yeah that's fine. So, I mean that's

kind of And then the rest is like we were together forever since then, I think, so, yeah, just about we were together for what three years before we got married pretty much? Yes, yes, so we met in seven

we got we got married in ten ten yep. August

twentieth of ten down here, yep. And by that time

Paul Junior Designs kind of took off.

Speaker 2: Two thousand and nine nine we started it, yeah, nine, ten, no nine.

Speaker 1: I mean it was the end of eight when me and my father parted way as matter of fact, maybe like it was like it was like three days before my birthday when me and my father separated. Ways, like

we parted. That was it. Yeah, I never worked for

occ Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Then two thousand and nine is when we started

Paul Junior Designs. But you had a one year non compete,

so that's when we started the whole Coleman thing.

Speaker 1: And right then we started doing some product design. And

then one year after that, man, we were building bikes.

Speaker 2: Oh, getting back to what we first started talking about.

How people think that we met.

Speaker 1: Oh, sorry, I got off on a tangent. So that's

how we met.

Speaker 2: That's how we met.

Speaker 1: How people think we met is we were together for some time. Yeah, at least like a year or so,

maybe say like a year, and we were doing that mccuff builds, which was some which was where they put that like doughnut in the gas tank and it's like a it's like a paint saver where you know, you put the nozzle in in like no splash and it doesn't like get on your paint. I don't really get it.

I didn't get it at the time. I don't know

what happened. Yeah, but they were in need of another

model at the time.

Speaker 2: One girl didn't show up or something.

Speaker 1: So, yes, someone didn't show up too, you're right. So

I was like, hey, babe, you know, we're doing this bike for this company and they're looking for a model.

And you had done modeling when you were younger, when I was younger, but you were still younger at the time.

You were twenty six years old. So I said, hey,

is this something you want to do and you know work? Sure?

Speaker 2: Then you gave me like a little.

Speaker 1: Then we gave it yeah, which you knew that. You

knew that he looked great in it. Pay don't make

me go watch that episode all right?

Speaker 2: Oh, I think I wanted to kill you. Halfway through.

Speaker 1: I was like, what, I know it was in my opinion, I wish maybe I wouldn't ask you to do it, because I don't like that people think you're like the mccuff girl. And like that's how we met. It was

much more organic and it was much more drawn out than that. But you did look good in that episode.

I'm not gonna lie. We should probably watch it right now. No,

we shouldn't, Oh, fair enough, So that's you know. Mccuff

was just something that you did while we were together.

That was part of the show that I asked you to do. So in fairness, that's how it worked. But

it certainly wasn't anywhere near how we met. No, but

that's good. We just cleared the air for people.

Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter, does because it's coming. I just

think it's funny how many people mention it. I'm like,

I'm surprised.

Speaker 1: People and they mentioned it like a gotcha. That's the

thing about it.

Speaker 2: It is because like I was like in the background, like while like Michael was like doing something with it or whatever.

Speaker 1: You're like, isn't that Paul's Yes.

Speaker 2: It was like me and the other girl in the background.

I remember I was like holding something. I was thinking,

and there was like a crowd and I was thinking I might kill you.

Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It was a little bit much.

I felt bad in the moment. I actually felt bad

and afterwards I felt really bad. When I felt even worse,

like what I do to my future wife here. Yeah, anyways,

that's good. We cleared the air on that. You know,

a man knew who you were, you knew who you knew who I was when we met. I never watched

you weren't like you weren't like an American Chopper fan.

Speaker 2: No, but I would have had to have lived under a rock to not.

Speaker 1: Yeah, at the time we were, we were pretty well known.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: Even at the time, like I was like, oh man, these girls, my gosh, I'm serious man, I was like, wow, soulmate, Yes, I knew right in that moment, so did you and so did you Here it was love at first sight, you know it. Let's talk about that portion of it

right there.

Speaker 2: Come on, I don't think that's true.

Speaker 1: I think we were into each other right away. Yeah,

as soon as we met, we had chemistry big time. Yeah, well,

you know, call it whatever you want, but certainly like there was a connection, like a predestined connection.

Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt that.

Speaker 2: I know, I feel like we got along so well, like right off the bat, we.

Speaker 1: Did we have you know, I'm so calm and collective and reasonable. Oh yeah, no, seriously when I think about it,

you know, and now here we are fifteen years married, eighteen years together, eighteen years.

Speaker 2: That's insane.

Speaker 1: Seven into seven. So what is that is that? Eighteen years?

It's yeah close to that.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting there.

Speaker 1: It's amazing how time flies. Man. And then we got

this amazing kid. I know, he's the best our son,

Like he is such a gift. He is like, yeah,

I'm telling you, And that kid has made me so proud.

This year was it. Yesterday was his last day of school.

And you know, in the past or he's struggled with certain things in school, and this year most improved in his class, most improved in gym class, which he's kind of like he's like seven foot tall and he's in fourth grade and he's a big kid. He's very athletic,

but he hasn't showed a lot of interest. But this

year he really improved. Honor roll, Come on, man, this kid.

And you know what the best part is every teacher says the same thing. He's a great kid. But you

know what, he is so good to all the other kids.

He said this. Every teacher says, this kid has the

biggest heart, and he's the biggest kid in his class.

As matter of fact, he's as big as a sixth graderes.

So his his big heart and generosity. To me, you

don't have to know math, if that's who you are, you cannot teach that. You can. But when it's built

in like for him, to me, that's the best part.

I love all the grades and the accolades, but the big hearted nature of that kid. He if you heard

a bug, he will lose it on you an insect.

I mean, he cannot hurt a fly, that kid. And

he will not tolerate any abuse of any type of any bugs or animals or anything or other people for that Math yea, you know. So it's pretty good man.

I'm very proud of him. And now it's summer and

we got to do some stuff this year, and.

Speaker 2: I'm like, we're going to take advantage of summer.

Speaker 1: We have to this year. I mean, he's like all

legs and arms. It's crazy.

Speaker 2: The day I can't even take it.

Speaker 1: He really is. I'm telling you, he's head and shoulders

taller than every kid in his class.

Speaker 2: He's a men's eight and a half shoe.

Speaker 1: Yeah, eight and a half that's crazy.

Speaker 2: I know crazy.

Speaker 1: I know he wears your shoes.

Speaker 2: I know I can fit in his shoes, no problem.

Speaker 1: It's crazy, man. So anyway, well, well, first of all,

let me just address so the fifteen years of marriage and how have we been able to keep it together? Yeah,

or get along? Right? I think for the most part

it's not always easy.

Speaker 2: No, it's not, but I feel like, I don't know, we tend to be on the same page and we're able to work things out. I feel like personality wise,

we I don't know, we just get along well. Work

wise we work together too, which is like crazy.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so we don't just work right. Very few husband

and wife. Yeah, teams out there are working together, yeah,

work in relationship or two different things, but when they're kind of blended.

Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a blur in those lines, especially because of what we do. There's no like office hours.

Speaker 1: Yeah, so that very thing makes us dynamic. Yeah, but

it also adds stress definitely. So we're very good at

working together. But there's no boundary in the way we work.

So our personal relationship and our work tend to kind.

Speaker 2: Of like, yeah, there's no division.

Speaker 1: They tend to be one and the same. And the

boundaries aren't really there.

Speaker 2: Yeah, So it could be like.

Speaker 1: We're trying to figure that out. Honestly, No, because we've

done stuff where we put proposals together for like a full week for something me and you and he was off school, yes, and we didn't go anywhere or do anything because we had a deadline.

Speaker 2: We had a deadline. I have like mom guilt over that.

Speaker 1: Yeah, which is understandable. So like that is the real

give and take of us. But together we're a different

type of formidable person. I think in other words, like

when we work together, we our attributes are complimentary. We

both have really strong God given gifts of creativity, especially in the same direction, which is like marketing, advertising.

Speaker 2: Same language when it comes to that kind of stuff is not always the case, right.

Speaker 1: We both like theme, which is like you know a certain style, a certain look, and then you carry that look out whatever that look is. So we both understand

that way of being creative. We understand it differently because

you understand it better in like space like here, even though I do too. So we just like your strong

points I'm not as good with. In my strong points,

you're not as good with.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: I also feel like we hear from God differently for different reasons, you know, even like this house we just bought.

I was not convinced, but I realized that your conviction and your ability to kind of see into the future, to have a vision for something, and the reasons for it, which are complicated, did which are more personal, which we know about your your intentions are really they agreed with me.

I didn't see your vision, but I trusted you. And

that's kind of where we are with the house, Like I know that you knew that you know that this is for us and that this here's what the future looks like now if it's.

Speaker 2: Not very like knee jerky about that kind of stuff either, So not at all, not at all.

Speaker 1: A matter of fact, if my wife says something that is out of the ordinary or I think is out of character, that's probably when I pay the most attention to it, because it means to me there's something to it.

Because you're pretty conservative. You're not like wildly emotional about things.

You're you're very calculated. And so that's kind of how

this house started that we just bought. And so even

though I had my own, because I got to work through it, I got to get there. I got to

get to where you are, but you're very good at helping me get there, because very quickly, when you started to lay out the vision for this project and I call it a project, but it's going to be our home, I very quickly started to see it. I didn't see

it before that because I didn't have the vision you did for it. I have a vision for other things.

But now that I'm on board, what are we doing?

We're sending each other, Oh man, the clip this, how you do that, this type of molding, this paint, this would work? Look at this new product. So we're both

now in this mode where we're just like building a portfolio of like everything to it. Yeah, not just what

things might look like, but how we're going to get there.

And that's what I think people are going to find super fascinating about us, different from a lot of husband and wife teams who build houses or decorate houses or whatever they do, because we are more dynamic than anyone I've seen out there. We just have more versatility, and

we we have a broader range, and I think people are gonna love to watch us create in this way.

And I think that's gonna what's gonna make this next show so amazing. All right. So, so the question that

someone had was how you know my mom worked with us for years when we started Paul Junior Design, she came in. She was working kind of like a secretary.

Speaker 2: Yeah, probably like maybe like the second year or so when we got into the building, she came in.

Speaker 1: That's right. Yes, she came in like two years into

us doing this and we needed someone answer the phones the show was going. And she also really latched onto

the charitable stuff because my mom was always very charitable, ye, And so people would put in requests for donation.

Speaker 2: To make it all happen.

Speaker 1: She'd make it all happen. Yeah, they'd send stuff in

to get signed, she'd come out, we'd sign it, she'd pack it back up and ship. We don't have that anymore,

but but she was a great part of the team back then too. It was so nice to see her

every day.

Speaker 2: I feel like it was really good for her to see that part of it. Also, because for years before that,

when you were at OCC and there was a lot of you know, obviously tention fights, all these different things that kind of were kind of like the forefront of what people would see a lot. She got to see

like how the show affected people because she'd be reading all the letters that people would send in this encouraged me to go into business on my own, or to start this, or to do that, or chase my dreams or work with my hands, or even like Christians. So

she was able to see that firsthand.

Speaker 1: What you know, the positive effects of the show. Yeah,

so my mom, you know, with all the fans we had out there just to set it up. You know,

I grew up with my father and myself arguing a lot.

It was ugly. I'm not going to lie to you.

It was hard on my mom. My father was a

tough person to live with, and me and him went to battle all the time. And so growing up she

saw us fight like bad and I worked for him and then I went home and I was under his roof and there was a lot of years of tension, and my mother hated that. She didn't understand it. She

didn't grow up in a house like that. There wasn't

a lot of that type of stuff. So I think

for her she just always felt bad about it. Then

when the show comes out, and one of the main aspects of the show is our fighting fighting, volatility, ugliness to her. Other people found it endearing and relatable and

maybe they felt like they didn't look so bad some of them, or maybe they said they're as bad as us.

But whatever it was, we struck a chord with a large group of people out there globally. But for my mother,

it was never She always didn't like it, and she thought it was not a good thing. She never thought

it was good, and she's probably right on its face.

But the results and the end result of it was that people felt more normal. Yeah, that's the bottom line.

And so I think it wasn't until she came to work for me and she was able to read all the emails, all the letters, all the people saying you got me, your show got me through, you know, two years of treatments just had. There's just piles of that.

Families got together and watched. I was giving birth and

we were watching the show. There's all these things. So

I think when she saw this pile of accolades positivity, I remember her saying to me, you know forever that this show really bothered.

Speaker 2: Me, and I didn't She didn't get it.

Speaker 1: She didn't see what was good about it because she was too close to it. How can a mother see

past that.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're airing your dirty laundry by showing you.

Speaker 1: Know, exactly. And it was very unorthodox, Let's be honest.

It was the first of its kind. There was nothing

like it on television or any we're in the world.

We were an anomaly, we were total. There was no precedent.

There really wasn't. So you know, when she starts fielding

all these things and is able to send something to a sick kid because they're requesting, and all this stuff poured in, it changed her whole lens on the show and what it meant to people. And then I think

she started to realize why people love it so much and why it did so well for so long, you know.

And then you got to bring my father into it, you know, my mother and father. My father left I

don't know, I was like eighteen, and they were together like a long time, right, So they were together like a total like twenty five years, and then he decided he was going to move on, and he did, And so I think that was my mother was never that.

My mother was ride or die. She was never going

to leave my father. She was Italian old school like

that was it. One man that was for her, that

was it. She never remarried, dated a little, but very little,

and so there was also a little bit of that in there. She felt the betrayal of the situation or

whatever you want to call it when a divorce happens.

So I feel like that also weighed in heavy. And

I think when she came to work for us, it kind of like opened her up to like an understanding, and I think it was very good for her, and she really enjoyed working for us. And then you guys

were able to have a great relationship even though she was like mama, mama, hen you yeah, I know, she was a little tough sometimes.

Speaker 2: Well then you started calling me mama sometimes geez oh, yeah, we can't both be mama.

Speaker 1: It wasn't always perfect, but it was really good. Yeah,

and my mom was really good and she did.

Speaker 2: She did well, witness a lot of the great things and even bring her and my mom along and those two partners and crime for the build offs.

Speaker 1: Yeah, they were tough. They were tough, huff together, remember

the first build off. So so Rachel's Mom's name is deb.

My mom is a verb. Yeah, dev is also a verb.

Has to do with deban out.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the term.

Speaker 1: That's the term we use. Uh. And then you got

my mom Paula, and they're both kind of like there were at the build off and it's like, you know, it's like everybody's.

Speaker 2: Tension, you know, the first one, right.

Speaker 1: The first build off two thousand and a lot.

Speaker 2: Of stress, it was going to be live. There was

a lot of talking going on behind the scenes and everything.

Speaker 1: Yep. And they were we were in the hotel and

the two of them, they were they were wandering around the hotel looking for.

Speaker 2: They also realized that they could get free drinks if they stayed near the slot machine. Came two cups. I'm like,

what do you guys do it?

Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, So they had a couple of casino drinks,

some well drinks and uh, and then they decided they were going to look for Jesse James.

Speaker 2: They found him.

Speaker 1: They found Jesse James at the bar.

Speaker 2: Yep.

Speaker 1: They both approached him. Yes, yeah, what they say.

Speaker 2: No, your mom was saying, wait, what'd she say? She's

I'm not even going to tell you what we said.

What was it?

Speaker 1: Oh, she came to us and said, we're not even going to tell.

Speaker 2: You what we No, no, no, she was talking to them and she's like, tell him deb, right, yeah, yeah, how did it go?

Speaker 1: I don't know you had it? Oh my gosh, oh,

we're the mothers.

Speaker 2: No, that was at the end. Yeah. So they were talking,

you know, blah blah blah, this and that whatever. I'm

not even going to tell you what I what I think of you or something like that.

Speaker 1: Yeah, they were giving him a hard time and he was like what no.

Speaker 2: Oh and then your mom was my mama saying tell him deb and she's like, you're an asshole?

Speaker 1: Is that what they said? They said to him, I

believe it.

Speaker 2: I'm telling you our mothers are going to get arrested. Yeah.

So then he was laughing. Apparently these ladies are like yeah,

yeah seriously, and he's like, who.

Speaker 1: Are no street cred that day?

Speaker 2: None? Who are you? And they turn around they go,

we're the.

Speaker 1: Mother were the mothers? They told Jesse James, Oh good

for them, man, go get up mothers. Oh my gosh, yeah,

you could take him down.

Speaker 2: They probably.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I remember they came back told us that, sir.

I was like, you did what?

Speaker 2: I know?

Speaker 1: That's so funny. That's who they were though, Man, that's

how they are.

Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm just trying to find some questions here that pertain to both of us. Would you and

Rachel ever build a bike together? She has a sneaky

creative side to her, considering she created the PJD logo.

Speaker 1: That's true, you are sneaky.

Speaker 2: I'm sneaky.

Speaker 1: Damn Yeah. I think we build a bike together.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be me.

Speaker 1: I would really like to build a bike for a client that is more female oriented in other words, like maybe they're products cater more they skew more female than.

Speaker 2: Male, or even.

Speaker 1: Like fashion like some sort of That would be a perfect example because a lot of these fashion people do some male You.

Speaker 2: Just mentioned something that I think would be fantastic brand wise.

Speaker 1: Be the best. I know, it would be the best,

one of the best, right up there with the best.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1: Ralph Loranz a fricking beast when it comes to fantastic vehicles.

So to do something like with his logo and do like a bike design that is just on par with everything he's ever done. Leather is it? Everything would be

the logo done right. It would be fantastic. We could

build a work of art together for him. It would

be really fun designing it. Then it would be even

funner building it, and then if he commissioned it, it would be fantastic to unvaliate at some sort of like really big event. Yeah, you know, like even if we

built a bike to like match his forty million dollars Bugatti might even be worth more than that now, but he's got some spectacular cars. I would love to do.

Speaker 2: Something or just his overall aesthetic I think would be killer.

Speaker 1: I agree. I think we buill and nail it too,

because his body of work is so profound. Yeah that

I think we can totally adapt to like our skill sets in line with his style. It would be it

would be out. It would be lights out, man, it

really would be lights out. Or Louis Vuitton. Yeah, that

would be fun.

Speaker 2: It would be fun.

Speaker 1: I think like a big fashion brand if we got together and did something sick, especially if it was for like fashion Week or like some big like yeah, like whatever brand we did that with. I feel like if

we did something like that, it would be the big standout thing for that event. It would be like super

outside the box for the industry.

Speaker 2: And like coordinate everything with the unveil outfit wise for sure, full on, you know, fully integrated.

Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. That's the kind of

thing I'd like to do together. It'd be fun to

just do something, but it'd be funner to do it for someone because we're good at that. That's where we're

really good at. Where we're good at taking someone's brand

and infusing it into what we do. We're fully integrating

it into what we do, like in the way of motorcycles, and then really put that out there. It would be splashy, sexy,

super fun, and I think it would get a ton of attention. Yeah, we've never done that before. We've never

collaborated on a bike.

Speaker 2: Thinking about what I've helped with in the past, handful things here and there, but nothing that we'veg Yeah.

Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, you design the logo and then like we've done all kinds of other stuff, just not a motorcycle.

Speaker 2: Yeah all right.

Speaker 1: Guys, Well listen, we appreciate you, uh kind of checking out that Paul Junior podcast with me and Rachel and now our little sidekick Max. He should probably be our

logo or something, and we're gonna do a lot more of these. Man, we're having fun doing it. We can

answer all kinds of questions, we can get into different topics.

I think we might even watch an episode together. I

think this is like an endless scenario. And I think

people are, you know, interested in what we have to say, what we want to talk about, in what's going on in the future, especially when it comes to television. So

we really appreciate you guys watching. If you're watching this,

like and subscribe please. We really need subscribers and we

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Speaker 1: Is that right that I do that? Right?

Speaker 2: Is it?

Speaker 1: Like in subscribe what he say? Is that what he

was saying?

Speaker 2: Click to follow, click to follow.

Speaker 1: Like to subscribe, subscribe to.

Speaker 2: Like we have to ask cutson.

Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So anyways, we really appreciate it and I

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