and then I thought no I'm not going to take a photo
yeah I know like
probably 20 different types
of mag
when I left the services
and this is the
Smith & Stiff centric bit
when I left the services
there were
no it wasn't
the grot mags word
but being
fuelled up
was an immaculate
thord probe
being driven by
a guy who can't
have been more than about 21
and is a presumed his girlfriend
in the passenger seat who also looked a similar age
and I was like
whoa
a probe
being cherished by someone
A and B being driven by a young person
are probes finally cool
and is it because of the flip up
headlight thing?
I saw a young chap
yesterday in a lovely
E33 series
just a normal one
like nothing, not an M3
but I just thought well
that's cool and retro isn't it
if you're 23
oh my gosh my nephew
yearns for a base model
E30, he doesn't care
it could be a 316 with absolutely nothing going on
and it'll be dog slow
but he just wants one
yeah but that's the point, if you're going too fast
people can't see you in your cool retro cast
that's right
a couple of people came up to us
at the piston heads event
and said
thank you for your podcast
it kind of in a strange way helps me to feel better
or to deal with my ADHD
and we're actively demonstrating that today
because we've sort of moved on
before we'd acknowledged there were actually
two Gordon Murray cars at
Pebble Beach
the other one was this
LeMond GTR which isn't retro
it sort of looks
like it's own thing
it's meant to be
sort of inspired by long tail
so the GT, the F1 long tails
and stuff but it doesn't look like them
it doesn't, I mean what does it look like
I don't know, the rear three quarter
angle, a very quick glance
I'd almost mistake it for the
current Ford GT
or the last Ford GT
only because it's got single round rear lights
and then a big wing
but I don't know what to make of that really
I think it's cool
that they're still
bringing cars out
they're a busy bunch
supposedly more to come
there's going to be more of these special vehicles
but as you've mentioned before
I think the T33 is a very nice looking car
and I would have one
I wonder
because I saw a picture
off of Pebble Beach
of cars driving around
near Big Sur
and all that
I saw the Gordon Murray Rocket
ah yes
a little rocket and I do wonder
and if this is already known
I apologise, do you think
that he's going to remake the rocket
I bet it's crossed his mind
so a smaller
cheaper, simpler car
than the T50s
and the T33s of the world
but still most definitely
a GMA product
I suppose the issue
is making the sums add up
because what were the rockets when they were new
they weren't cheap
no they're worth a lot of money now
did you know this?
they really are, yeah
they're very appealing
very appealing
I was just going to do one more
sorry to everyone who sent a message
about in congress student cars
maybe we'll do some more next time
but this one particularly caught my eye
he said
I had an ex military vw 181
it was a daily in West Yorkshire
while at Breton Hall University
of Leeds in 1992
gosh
but in a friend's
uni hostel in West Breton
there was a mature student
from a wealthy background
he had
a 1980 911 turbo
and a similar village 924 turbo
what?
no, it gets better
my friend
was regularly asked to drive him around in these cars
because the student was blind
what?
and my friend would give him the thrill he wanted from them
which is why he had them parked up on campus
so he had two turbo porches
as a student
but was blind so therefore
he definitely couldn't drive
yeah
I guess just invite trusted people to drive around
and predicts to get a thrill
it's really cool
but also two cars
not just the one, I mean one of those would have been
more than enough
oh sorry, there's just one more that caught my eye
which is from a listener called Sarju
says when I was at medical school
towards the end of my third year in 2004
there was a guy who had wealthy parents
in India and they bought him a red
Ferrari F355
Spyder with beige leather
it was the talk of the year
naturally
as a medical student
worse than that
as a medical student Sarju says
he used to take it to placements
it was quite the sight
given that we were in east London
oh this is my worry you see
my mind immediately jumps to
these are great cars
but they're not going to be parked in the right places
they're going to be at risk
I would just feel very
self conscious
and it would just be a stress
having a really nice car like that
and then going oh you've got a placement
your placement is in south east London
where there's not a lot of Ferrari street parks
and it might get gobbled on or scratched
or whatever or nicks
you're buying another problem
if I was the parent
if you qualify as a medical
as a doctor
will buy you a 355 Ferrari
how's that? you go wow that's amazing
thanks mum and dad
but you're not having it until you leave a dingy part of London
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do you know the car that won
it's one of those things where there's so many vehicles
there's so much news
and stuff that happens
at car week
you sort of forget what won
the Pebble Beach Concours Delegance
mate
I didn't notice what was it
well this was the 74th
Pebble Beach Concours Delegance
and 229 cars
entered
from 22 countries
I'll have you know
but the best of the show
was in 1924
Hispano Suiza
H6C
Newport Astrid Torpedo
Shown by Penny and Leanderson
from Naples and Florida
and this Hispano Suiza
really ticked every single box
according to concourse chairman
Sandra Button
the underpinnings are technically advanced
the body's meticulously handcrafted
it's light, it's lovely
and it's notably commissioned
a paratif
what? I'm reading this
it was notably
it was notably commissioned by
a paratif Sion
Andre Dubonnet
and he raced it in both
Targa Florio and Copa Florio
a later owner owned
a later owner
added pontoon fenders to the car
but the Anderson sought to return the car
to its original form
as you can see
and truly appreciate its torpedo shape
known as the tulip wood
the car is in fact constructed
of strips of mahogany
each individually carved
painstakingly to shape
and joined to the inner ribs
by 8,500 rivets
it
it reportedly
weighed just 160 pounds
when it was first built
oh my gosh it's an exquisite example
of the Margaret should
do you think I'd have to look up
the previous winners but
is it the case that
it feels like those
the Pebble Beach winners
are always a bit
separate headlights
yeah there's that unbelievable
jelly mould one
which is one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen
and I'd have to go back through the winners
do you know what I'll do it next week
and I'll describe it
in great detail
but yeah
I think there's a lot of separate headlights
and rah rah rah
prewar
but
there's a lot of other parts of
the car weeks that are becoming much
younger
I think the quail is becoming younger
there's more 80's
90's centric cars
which obviously is more relatable to
people our age
and people slightly younger than us
so yeah I get it
it goes back to the probe you saw isn't it
it is great that a younger generation
is interested in cars
but I think that the car world
it would be great if the car world
embraced that
we don't need to throw away hispano
swissers there's still be some people
who really enjoy them but
can we move the way
imagine that
so eccentric
yeah I've engine swapped it
I was really
bored so I commissioned
some TSW Venoms
in the right size
and I fitted those to it for a bit
or some incredibly soft look escort cars
just for shits and giggles
because I'm mental
because I'm just that guy
I think if we were at auction house
we would call ourselves shits and giggles
which I think would be good
shits would be a sort of
German spelling
and then yeah I think it would be great
I was just looking down the list of
the Pebble Beach Concourse winners
this year so the best of show
in 1924 hispano swisser
best of show nominees were also
in 1939 my back and in 1933
Invicta
elegance awards, 1933 Rolls Royce
1937 Bugatti, 1951 Ferrari
1953 Siata
and then special awards
1934, 1908, 1967
Oh modern, wow
and then in the chairman's trophy
there was a 1989 Ferrari
but it was a 640 so an F1 car
and then following that
the Charles A. Chain trophy
was run by 1910 Benz
it is
it skews old
I'm going down this list and at no point
is there any mention of a Chrysler Lebaron
door missing or not
and I find that disappointing
is where the lemons comes into it
isn't it, that's where the lemons
which has grown massively
in popularity
and probably more our bag
do you know what
next year we've got to go
we'll make a pact, we're going to go
we've got to give it a try haven't we
we've got to go, we will find another golf cart
but at the actual
Pebble Beach Concourse
where there's the plinth and all of the streamers
are thrown over the winning car
and all that stuff
and then immediately
they use a very delicate version of a leaf blower
to get them off again
so you don't damage the paint
I think
any kind of car like that
in the same way that if you're going to
like the Goodwood Revival or something this year
the cars which you wouldn't normally think to look at
just take a bit of time
to look at them
and learn about them
and as you get older
and appreciation of cars will grow
hopefully
I know that sounds a bit preachy, it's not meant to
but I've really enjoyed
broadening my automotive horizon
as I've got bit older
and my taste has sort of meandered slightly
and that's okay
I've just looked at the castigaries
there are in fact lots of castigaries
at the Pebble Beach Concourse
turns out this year they include one for Land Rover Special Expedition Vehicles
which is interesting
oh really
yeah you are
sorry
but it feels like maybe the judges
in terms of the overall winner
they do sort of skew that way a little bit
but I'm sure
it'll change at some point
I don't know
it's very nice
where we were there
I remember looking up close at some of those cars
cords
and probably some hispanosuisas
and thinking
me, this is clearly beautifully put together
and it's been polished
to an incredible mirror finish
but
it doesn't excite me as much
as if I turned around
and there was a
absolutely show respect Pontiac Aztec
are you
angling to take the metro
turbo to Pebble Beach next year
obviously you will air lift it over there
yes I won't drive it
I don't even
have it shipped to New York at a drive cross country
it might be tempting fate
just be amazing
yeah
I would imagine that
that would be amazing, we need to talk about this
it would be bloody brilliant
I would love that
what a good idea
with the danger of talking about cars again
I know what you complained last week
did we
just a few people went what's all this
so
I realised I'd noted down
because you told me to write it down
because I said this to you when we were recording
I don't know why this is
relevant to anyone but when I was a kid
I thought that the song hit me with your rhythm stick
by Ian Dury
was actually by David Attenborough
and I cannot explain why
I must have been
when was that sorry
I don't even know
I would have been like four
I vividly remember
I think I'd sort of got into bed
my parents one morning and they both got up
and I was just lying there and their clock radio
had radio 2 coming out of it
and I heard that song and I was like
oh here's that song that's by David Attenborough
but
in my head
I think it might be because at some point I'd seen Attenborough on the TV
with a little stick, a cane or something
you're so weird
and I assumed he'd written a song about his rhythm stick
but that's it
in my head it made perfect sense
there was a little video of it
playing in my head of Attenborough
in a safari suit
with a stick going
even though Ian Dury doesn't sound anything like
David Attenborough
Ian Dury was very kind of East End cockany type
and Attenborough's received pronunciation
yes
old school BBC
1979 so that would trick
that would figure because I'd have been four
that's great
I love that
it's another fantastic song
I can add to my roster of
great songs
it says here it was released on the 1st of December 1978
but I guess it would have
been on the radio and all that
so we're not allowed to talk about any more car stuff
so
should we talk about utter...
I mean actually what I was going to say was
I saw another effing probe
the same week
that I saw that probe
that was possibly going and buying
a lot of grot from that service station
yep
tank full of super and later D5 on the probe
pump 11
and can I have that mag and that one
and that filthy one as well
thank you cheers mate
I mean it's amazing because I haven't seen a probe for years
I'm not sure I saw one at
Festival of the Unexceptional
don't think I did it either
it was a 16 valve I checked
so it would have been illegible for
Festival of the Unexceptional
too much
just too much
way too much
did you hit me with your rhythm stick
was the number one single
well I didn't know it was number one
but I knew it was their best
ranked song
probably most people's only
during the blockhead song
I just didn't realise it was that successful
cos I felt like ear jury was a bit
not quite mainstream
it didn't travel well
which there are
and maybe other places like
Australia I don't think he
during the blockheads was particularly international
but well worth listening
no cos I just saw this somewhere
now I've lost it again
that it was
it charted in Australia I saw it
did it
yeah hang on let me find this again
yes it went to number two in Australia
well there was a great sample
used from in during the
musicians were
all on the top of their
game fantastic drumming and guitar
and keyboards
but there was a great
song called
Tribe Called Quest
can I kick it obviously uses
the bass line
from
who is it, Lou Reed
Walk on the Wild Side
does it walk on the Wild Side
but the chorus
the sort of main part
the other part of the song uses
uses a bass line from
what a waste
by ear during the blockheads
just so does it
yes in case anyone gives a shit
yes it does
and I flip in love
and I have always enjoyed
ear jury in the blockheads
but in my mid 20s I just went
full ear jury in the blockheads
I used to play it almost nonstop
and I don't know why
but I definitely didn't think
David Attenborough was involved
you fucking idiot
I can't explain why
but I feel like this is not the only example
of where I've
certainly in my childhood
I was convinced that a song was by somebody
that it was not by at all
but it's the one that sticks in my mind
because it seems so ridiculous in retrospect
but I can still summon up the image
I had in my head of Attenborough
Hit me
I now want Attenborough
to be talking about sex and drugs
and rock'n'roll and I want
bless the late ear jury
if he was still alive I'd want him to be doing
sensible nature programs
without being allowed to swear
and you could tell he's really struggling
because he wants to say a few effing seas now
and again because it's just in his nature
but he's talking about
an incredible swan
like creatures and albatross
etc
well none of that's correlated
so we've balanced out the tables there haven't we
yeah
if I could bring it back to cars
I was
in Wales last week
and
I noticed again something that we've discussed
we've discussed off the show
which is the number of datures that you see around
a big saturation
in south Wales
I mean it's just extraordinary
I was trying to take a picture
washed the table the cars are, I've got the car of three of four dashes in a row parked up, but it wasn't quite the perfect sweep.
It wasn't like a fruit machine kind of, but yeah, they're everywhere, and I sort of feel like maybe it says something.
I was thinking about it to be driving through various Welsh villages, and I was thinking about how un
ostentatious Welsh churches are in rural places.
y te vas a una vía de una vía típica de inglés de una cierta tamaño
y tendrán, de vez en cuando, una iglesia desproporcionante
con una gran espalda o una espalda.
Y no te encuentras mucho en Wales.
En realidad hay una iglesia desproporcionante
que pasé a un lugar llamado Panclout
en la provincia de Garpin.
Pero si no, te encuentras esos modos,
muy oscuros, colores de color, en Wales.
Y pensé, el Dacia, creo que puedes traer una línea,
no sé si estoy hablando de nada,
pero creo que puedes traer una línea
de moda Welsh metodismo
para el modo de Wales,
la embracing del Dacia.
Estás viviendo dentro de tu mente,
estando sensibles, no estando flasco,
hay una cierta modosidad
que creo que está en el corazón de la soul de Wales
como resultado de los años.
Con todo el caro de financiamiento
que está pasando en el momento en las noticias
y el descanso de la financiación,
¿puedes pensar que esto es
ir right back to the old school
where Welsh people are buying Dacia's
outright old school?
They go into a Dacia dealer
and they go,
I really want a base model Sandero.
How much is it?
It's $14,995.
Right.
Okay.
Here's $14,995.
Thanks.
Do you think it's that?
I think so.
I think there's a sector of the population
of all of this country, I think,
who probably of a certain age particularly
doesn't believe in unnecessary borrowing.
They're very financially sensible.
You live within your means.
A mortgage is one thing
because you hope that you're borrowing money
against an appreciating asset.
But you do not borrow money
against something that's going to lose value
because that's just silly.
You buy something you can afford.
It's just vulgar, isn't it?
Yeah, but I do think.
I'm saying this for context
before people in Wales kick my head in
that I spent a lot of time in North Wales
when I was a kid
because my dad grew up in Dogfly
and my mum had relatives from around there
and Balor and Barmouth
and all that sort of area.
So I spent a lot of time there
and have a lot of relatives from up there
and some of my dad's family lived down in Potolba
so I feel like I've spent enough time in Wales
to get a sense of this
and it's definitely...
I reckon that the dacha of any type
is the perfect modest Methodist Welsh car
and it is because of that.
Don't live beyond your means.
Why would you borrow £50,000?
That's outrageous.
You would spend £14,000 on a car
you can afford that seems to be built
to last you for a while.
I'm in total agreement of that
and on that subject
I'd like to just say that
my brother, Greg
I would say friend of this podcast
I mean he doesn't listen
but he's appeared on it
but he's...
brother of the podcast
Greg has messaged me this morning
in minor despair saying
Johnny can you help me
I've got to sell these two golfs
he said I've been absolutely overrun
I won't use the exact words that he's used
but people that are
clicking by the car on eBay
and they never turn up
and just general scammage
if anybody out there wants
a Mark IV Golf 1.9 TDI
which is frilly
but reliable
on the ax of the reg
and if anyone wants a Mark VI Golf
which is probably more rusty
than the Mark IV actually
1.6 petrol, FSI
FSI
FSI, get in touch
both the cars are around the 300 pound mark
so we are really not asking for a lot of money
I will forge a details to my brother
if you scam him he will hurt you
but if genuinely they both need
I think they both need work for the MOT
no, one of them's got an MOT
but his spare's a repair
and the other one would go through another MOT
but it hasn't currently got one
this is how glamorous we are
we go from Pebble Beach
Hispano Suizers to
not quite MOT Golfs
so there we go
I've lost track of your brother's Golf collection now
but anyway, yes
we might be tempting fate here
but if you want frilly 300 pound Golfs
drop us a line and we will forward
serious offers to
Johnny's brother
thank you please
we should wrap this up
before we go
I have three things to tell you
they are, first of all
Johnny is engaged in an unusual new project
to set up a whole
college
in which he will teach people
how to be the former lead singer
from Rillian and the working title
School of Fish
if that's not to your taste
then there is of course the late break show
lots of excellent videos on there
what's knocking around at the moment
he not quite barn find
a driveway find go out
which if you have a look at that
so Mark 1 Escort Mexico
that's been owned by the same chap
since it was a year old
and I used to work with
I'm good friends with
the guy whose dad
his mum and dad own that car
so I've known about that car for 20 years
and in fact he was the passenger
in the Dodge Viper
that I may or may not have
destructo en 2005
so that's one worth watching
and then
this weekend he says
there's a video that's going out
and I simply can't remember
what it is
but I think it'll be really good
I just can't remember
I just can't remember it
let's just leave it at that
but I put a lot of videos out
you can't expect me to remember everything
the second thing I wanted to mention
is that
we recently appeared
on the Waymo channel
they sit outside car events
and chat about the cars
that are going by
quite annoyed I didn't think of it because it's a really good format
well they invited us on again
at the end of festival
exceptional and that is now live on youtube
available as a podcast
and various bits and pieces on
instagram and all over death outels
so go watch that
we get annoyed
by a very fast motorcycle rider
don't we
that was annoying
and I think we talk a little bit too much
about grand designs
but for those of you who don't like
us talking too much about cars
go and check out our appearance on the Waymo channel
because we definitely get distracted there
and the third thing
I was going to
actually I'm going to pivot my final fact
just because we were talking about
Injury and the blockheads
and
the blockheads
very proficient musicians as you mentioned
actually played
a lot of
relax by Frankie Ghost of Hollywood
because producer Trevor Horn
wasn't happy with the musicianship
of the actual members of Frankie Ghost of Hollywood
they were
I think a lot of them are still live
the blockheads are great musicians
you should listen
there's a song for everyone with the Injury and the blockheads
but the very British 70s
so very
alright well that's quite enough
of all this
just stop it Richard
stop it
just stop it
we'll be back on Friday with an Ottersaw
answering your questions back on Monday
with another show
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About this episode
Johnny Smith and Richard Porter dive into their feelings of FOMO regarding the recent Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. They reminisce about their own experiences at the event and discuss the high caliber of cars showcased this year. The duo also debates the merits of Gordon Murray's new cars, particularly the S1 LM, comparing it to the T50 and sharing their thoughts on design choices. The conversation flows into humorous anecdotes about student cars and the quirks of automotive culture, making for an entertaining and insightful episode.
Jonny and Richard discuss Car Week envy, the new Gordon Murray specials, McLaren F1 wheels, the Porsche 968 Club Tropicana, listeners’ messages about incongruous student cars, a surprising shelf in a motorway service area, sighting a Ford Probe, a confusion involving David Attenborough, and why the Welsh buy so many Dacias.