9WERKS Radio : The Porsche and Car Podcast Apr 6, 2026

Porsche performance legends DRIVEN: 964 RS, 718 GT4, 718 GTS 4.0, 996 GT3, 992.2 GTS

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"Holy Trinity" (Porsche supercars)

They’re using a nickname for a short list of the most legendary Porsche cars. It’s basically a fun way to compare which one you’d want most.

Car

Carrera GT

The Porsche Carrera GT is a rare, high-performance Porsche supercar. It’s not the kind of car most people put huge mileage on, so the story is basically about how someone used it like a daily.

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300,000 miles

Putting 300,000 miles on a car in a year is an enormous amount of driving. It means the car would need frequent upkeep just to stay reliable.

Brand

NineWorks Marketplace

This is the name of the marketplace that sponsors the podcast. It’s likely where you can find Porsche-related items.

Term

MoT is the UK’s periodic vehicle inspection that checks roadworthiness, emissions, and safety items. For a performance car, passing MoT is often a quick confirmation that critical items like brakes, lights, and emissions systems are still in spec.

Term

suspension

Suspension is what helps the tires stay in contact with the road. If you change it, the car can feel more stable in corners and more controlled over rough pavement.

Term

PDK

PDK is Porsche’s dual-clutch automatic transmission. It’s designed to deliver fast, seamless gear changes and is a big part of why many Porsche models feel so responsive. When someone calls a car a “PDK car,” they’re usually highlighting that transmission choice over a manual.

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press car

A press car is a car Porsche (or any automaker) gives to the media to drive and review. After the media event, the company may keep it for other marketing/PR uses.

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second hand cars

“Second hand cars” just means used cars. When Porsche keeps talking about older models, more people want them later when they’re sold pre-owned.

Car

718 GT4

The Porsche 718 GT4 is the more track-oriented 718. It’s usually louder and more intense than the more street-friendly versions, so it can feel “extreme.”

Term

tin top

“Tin top” just means a car with a normal fixed roof. The speaker is contrasting it with convertibles that let you put the roof down.

Term

detuned

“Detuned” means the engine is tuned to make a bit less power or to feel different than the most aggressive version. It’s usually done to improve drivability or fit the car’s intended role.

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red line

The “red line” is the engine’s maximum recommended RPM range; pushing past it can risk damage. The speaker notes the GT4 has a slightly higher red line than the GTS, which contributes to its more rev-happy character.

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all rounder

An “all rounder” is a car that does a lot of things well. It’s the one you can use for normal life but still enjoy when you want to drive more enthusiastically.

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track car

A track car is made mainly for driving on a race track. It’s usually set up to handle hard driving better than a normal daily car.

Car

918

They’re talking about the Porsche 918 Spyder. It’s a very special, high-tech supercar, and people often love how it looks—its shape and styling are instantly recognizable.

Car

Porsche 986 Boxster

“986 Boxster” refers to the Porsche Boxster generation with the internal code 986. The 986-era Boxster is a common entry point for buyers because it’s typically less expensive than newer mid-engine Porsche options, which is why it comes up in a budget discussion.

Part

lightweight flywheel

A flywheel is a heavy part that helps the engine spin smoothly. If you make it lighter, the engine responds quicker, but it can feel a bit touchy when you’re driving slowly. The point here is that the RS cars are tuned to handle that change.

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pole positions

Pole position means the car starts first at the race. It’s usually earned by being the fastest in qualifying.

Concept

Top Gear airfield

Top Gear often films car tests on a special airfield area. It’s a place where they can drive cars in a way that feels more real and exciting, not just in a studio.

Company

Singer Vehicle Design

Singer Vehicle Design is a company that builds special Porsche-style cars. They take classic 911s and update them with modern engineering and custom details, so people pay attention when they show up at big events.

Concept

Goodwood Festival of Speed

Goodwood Festival of Speed is a big car event in the UK. It’s famous for showing lots of interesting cars and often includes a hill climb and special displays.

Brand

MG

MG is a British car brand. It’s known for classic sports cars, and sometimes events highlight MG to celebrate the brand’s history.

Car

Porsche 911

The Porsche 911 is Porsche’s iconic sports car. Here, the point is that Singer’s build starts with a 911, even though Singer changes a lot of the look and feel.

Term

air-cooled

An air-cooled engine uses airflow to keep the engine at the right temperature. It’s a classic Porsche style, and it’s one reason these older 911s feel and sound the way they do.

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cab

“Cab” means it’s a convertible. It’s the open-top version of the Porsche, so it’s a different body style than a coupe.

Concept

Six months warranty

A “six months warranty” is a limited coverage period offered with the sale. For used performance cars, warranty length can affect buyer risk and negotiation, especially for cars with expensive-to-repair components.

Term

drive shafts

Drive shafts are the parts that send power from the drivetrain to the wheels. If they’re disconnected, the car won’t be able to drive safely until they’re properly reattached.

Term

flat six

A flat-six is an engine where the cylinders sit in two sides, like a sideways “V” but flatter. It’s a common Porsche layout and helps the car balance weight in a distinctive way.

Term

engine lift table

An engine lift table is a tool that holds the engine and lets you move it around safely. It makes engine removal and re-installation much easier and safer.

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cliffhanger

A cliffhanger is when they stop right before the interesting part. It’s a way to make you want to come back next week.

Brand

Driven Not Hidden Collective

The Driven Not Hidden Collective (DNHC) is a Porsche-focused community referenced as the show’s sponsor. It’s positioned as a way to connect with other owners and participate in Porsche-related experiences.

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So, out of 959 Carrera GT and 918, they're the Holy Trinity apportions.

Which one's your favourite?

Carrera GT.

I thought you'd say that.

So, would you rather you had a Carrera GT 3 year, could drive it every day, could drive

it wherever you like for as long as you like, one whole year, and you never drive again,

give up your licence on the last day, probably need two to be fair.

Or, probably give it up on the first day.

Yeah.

Or, never drive a Carrera GT, never sit in one.

Won't be able to drive whatever else I like.

Yeah.

I'll go for the second one.

You would?

Yeah.

Quite an easy answer really.

Yeah.

What's your thoughts?

Which is your favourite out of three?

I quite like the idea, oh that's, now that is a question, that's a podcast.

In itself.

That is a podcast.

I quite like the idea of being that bloke in the pub, you know, that it's just sitting

there dribbling saying, I owned a Carrera GT for a year and I did 300,000 miles in it.

I was that guy.

300,000 miles in a year?

I drive it.

Oh my God.

24 seven.

I just keep driving it.

Keep driving it, even if there is a fuel crisis.

You know, I quite, I'm flirting with that idea, not thinking at all rationally right

now because it'd be a bus pass forever.

I could jump in with you to cars and coffees and what not, that'd be cool.

Can I please?

No, I've had the rule, no you've got to go in the bus everywhere.

Yeah, maybe not then.

Maybe not.

Shall we get on with the show?

Yeah, let's do it.

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So how are you doing in Bruxy?

I'm all right mate, how are you?

Yeah, I'm all right.

Thank you.

I'm all right.

So we're at Vassworks in Dorset.

We are.

I think your GT3 is just rolling out.

I haven't been at MoT.

Lovely.

Hopefully it's passed.

I just hope that kills you.

But yeah, we'll find out.

You've had a little tickle, haven't you?

I have.

Yes.

Literally a couple of miles.

Yeah.

But it's good to be back in it.

Obviously, I drove it when you first got it.

I had it pretty much the afternoon.

But yeah, the memories came flooding back of how good it is.

What a great car that is.

It just does feel right.

Very right.

Yeah.

I really want you to take it for a day or two or whatever because on dry roads, as you

said, in the autumn when you drove it, it's really greasy.

It was.

It wasn't underfoot and not GT3 weather.

Weather's now.

It's what it's all about.

Amazing things.

What I have noticed recently on the Nonmox marketplace and elsewhere as well, I've put

the search further afield, 0996 GT3s for sale nationally in this country.

Where they all gone?

You tell me.

Been driven.

You tell me.

Yeah.

Maybe they are being driven.

Yeah.

So yeah, interesting stuff.

I'm going to try and get to the bottom of why that is really.

I think the reality, everything Metzger engined is being lifted up by 997 RS 4-litre prices.

Is that heads for like a million quid?

That's just pulled up 997 GT prices we saw last year and then obviously it has to pull

up everything else possibly.

It's not.

Yeah.

So it's a weird one speculating on your own car really, but that's kind of what I think.

But we'll try and get to the bottom of that in a future episode because 997 GT3s as well,

one or two available.

Yeah.

Just disappearing.

So they're just not around.

So if you're after a Metzger engine GT car, you're going to have to look under a fair

few rocks I think at the moment to find one.

So that's good.

But discussing a couple of cars we've driven, I guess for this episode.

Yeah, well, I've driven that.

Yeah.

And it's going to be over to you.

Really?

You've driven quite a lot lately, haven't you?

Hell of a lot, which has been wonderful, Andy.

Yeah.

Wonderful.

Can I start with mid-engined?

You can.

A lot of our conversation is reserved for 911s, which we do get caned about, which is totally,

totally fair enough.

So recently, and in actual fact it was last week's podcast, wasn't it, talking about Cayman

RS?

Yeah.

Probably none of them for sale now.

Yeah.

What a great episode that was.

Ah, do you know what?

Those guys.

Yeah.

Good, weren't it?

Yeah, really good.

Yeah.

Good insights into the car, why they like them, why they're going to keep them, why they'd

be the last car that they might have.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was really insightful.

Yeah.

It made me actually go and start looking at the marketplace and looking at auto-trader

and stuff as it was about.

Really?

So wrong.

It's been interesting on DNHC, WhatsApp chat this week about Cayman RS and possible changes

to suspension and whatnot, which has been quite interesting.

I personally think that's just great as is, like leave it, leave it as is.

But for those listening at home, you know, last week's episode really was high value

because the four owners who guested on the podcast, and we were so lucky that they gave

their time for it, they're serial Porsche owners.

They know their stuff and on a granular level.

So the information they imparted, that is, it's super, super high value that.

So I hope everybody at home enjoyed the Cayman R fluff first, but it was part of our first

road trip of the year.

Yeah.

And one of two we're doing in the UK this year, planned thus far anyway.

But I was rocking a 718 GTS 4-Liter Cayman.

Yeah, I haven't heard your opinions on that car.

Have you driven one before?

So I have driven the Boxster.

A couple of years.

Green one.

Yes, that's it.

Yeah, because you put the harmonica to the front, wouldn't it?

And then we're wondering where that funny noise was coming from when I was driving.

The old ones are the best ones.

Yeah, I really enjoyed that.

That was solid two years ago.

Yeah.

Took that round Wales, didn't we?

And yeah, so it was nice to get some tin top action.

If you think about it, that's that specific car, a particular car,

Carmine Red, PDK car.

It's got to be one of the last in the UK to come out of the house and because obviously

Porsche has stopped making them in the autumn of last year.

So that was the press car?

Yeah, yeah, it was.

What's funny is that I still got the press car when there's no.

There's nothing to be made if they kept it because they like it.

Well, rather than, you know, it's not really of much use because if you give it,

you're not going to sell anymore, are you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I think the reason they've kept it and sometimes

there's like a heritage fleet and then the car, everybody knows as Hebe, the 997.2 RS GT3.

They still have that, for example.

And it's, I think, shared between marketing and PR, I think.

But there is merit to keeping the older stuff.

But the reality is, you know, two door Porsche sports cars in production,

you've got the 911 and you've got absolutely nothing else.

So it's nice to, you know, even though Porsche isn't selling them or actively

manufacturing them right now, there's there's lots of them out there and they

are great cars and that reminder or that exercise in giving me the car served

as a great reminder, particularly off the back of I've heard something in the last

week or so, and I can't it can't be validated.

Yeah, but it's worth chucking it out.

There is a bit of gossip that I have heard that the Cayman and Boxedus

Rejuvenated 718 platform may not rear its head until 2030.

Wow.

I mean, it's the best part of five years away.

Yeah. Yeah.

So if we're in for that sort of ride.

So are we saying that then that the battery model has definitely been cancelled?

Is that I don't know, to be honest.

So, you know, it'd be remiss of me to say because I hear one thing and then I read another.

Yeah, it's lots of rumors going around.

There's yeah, I think the reality is.

From the people I'm speaking to, the company as a whole is just on hold at the moment

while the board works out which way to turn.

And, you know, yeah, which which way to twist and everything will then kind of cascade onwards from that.

So it's sit tight and and fight, you know, and to be fair, you know, I asked the PR team,

what's what's the what's the update?

Is there an official line on the 718?

And they said, well, you know, there there isn't.

You've not heard back from us because there's nothing to tell.

Unfortunately, at the moment, nobody really knows what's going on.

So if that 2030 thing is true.

Then you're holding the range, isn't it?

Because almost it came in the box.

There must be huge numbers.

But how do you feel that that's going to be difficult?

It is. But there are two positives to that.

Number one is I'd rather there was no 718 than an electric only 718 personally,

because that was such the the wrong way to go in my own personal opinion.

But the other side of the coin is the 718 GTS four litre.

There are so many of them made already.

They were, I think, in production for six years, incredible longevity.

So there are enough of them out there for us to keep interested.

And I guess that having a press car

so that they can continue to resell second hand cars

and keep the interest in them is there, isn't it?

It's sometimes you sort of you only think about the new stuff,

but there's there's marketing, the old stuff as well.

Definitely. I mean, you know, Porsche G.B.

has been selling cars in this country for 75 years as of 2026.

So there's a lot of cars floating around for people to get stuck into.

So, yes, it's nice.

It's nice that the manufacturer,

they're going to acknowledge that in quite a big way this year.

Porsche G.B. with a range of events,

which we're really looking forward to being a part of.

So, yeah, there's there's lots out there, Andy,

but I just going back to a 718 four litre.

Yes, that is absolutely on my list of future future wants.

What an unbelievable little sports car that is.

And the best thing about it is it does everything.

We all say the 911 is the one car that does it all and whatnot.

But there's the 718 was incredible and just did everything so well.

The other thing I really like about it is it's so unaffensive.

It just does it all on the quiet and 911.

It's got this kind of a bit of a quiet drama,

unless it's an RS in which it's all loud drama.

But it just does everything but in such a quiet and subtle way.

So if you're overtaking people, it's not it's not offensive.

You know, you can have all the fun in that car and then rock up,

park at the back of a car and coffee.

No one's really going to notice it.

So it's just your own little kind of little secret in a way.

And it's like, if you know, you know, with that car, it brilliant.

The only thing that puts me off those personally is the engine note.

I just can't get on with those.

The current engine note of all of the sort of six of the cars,

they just don't do anything for me.

Really?

Yeah, when they start up and it's that sort of noise that it makes.

Well, I just want to go back to 981 Boxster.

That just sounds sorry, Boxster or Cayman, it just sounds.

The engine just sounds better when it starts.

Yeah, it's a bit is a bit more of a sharpness to it,

a bit more of aggression to it.

Definitely, definitely.

But I mean, considering there's gasoline particulate filters,

I think that's probably the killer.

That is the killer.

Yeah, I think that I think the sound is brilliant.

And actually, you know, you stick a 7184 litre in sport mode,

get it on a twisty B road as we were for the road trip.

And oh, my God, that engine sings and the noise of it is

because obviously the engine is just the other side of a bulkhead.

It's absolutely reverberating through the cabin.

Yeah, it's an incredible experience.

And it's not until you get into a GT4 and then, you know,

you start to think, well, a GT4 might be too loud.

I get it, a GT4 is more of an extreme car.

Yeah, it's a track car really, isn't it?

But that that GTS, I think had bags and bags and bags of character.

Four litres of cracking engine.

Porsche doesn't do a bad four litre, does it?

But just interwoven in this just most incredible package that, again,

it's just quite it's quite subtle.

Did you get to drive any other cars on that weekend?

I did. I drove a Cayman R and a GT4.

OK, so there's going to be a video coming on that in terms of engine 718.

So 718 GTS and GT4 in the same day.

And how did that, you know, where was the

the relationships and the differences?

What was your thought?

Was there any other one that you had particularly wanted to take away?

Or is the GTS really hitting the spot for you?

So, yeah, I mean, this is the thing, the GT4 and

people listening at home, there is a video coming, please watch it.

Please watch it.

But the GT4 and I have completely at long last woken up to just the sheer

brilliance and value of the mid-engine Porsche platform.

And, you know, particularly the Cayman, because the Cayman's always had the tough

sell because it's the tin top, because it's got those Porsche lines.

It just sits so close to the 911.

It's it's, you know, if the 911 didn't exist,

the Cayman would just be the best thing since sliced bread.

And it is often one what car sports car of the year ahead of the 911,

lest we say.

But, yeah, the box does a different concept in being able to put the roof down,

isn't it? But the Cayman is such great value and epitomized by, say, the GT4.

718 GT4, first time I've driven one.

It's a baby GT3.

If you compare that to a contemporary rival would be 911.2 GT3, you know,

GT4 is knocking on for half the price.

It's a fantastic car.

Ironically, the same four litre engine as the GTS.

There's a little bit of difference, isn't there?

Slightly.

So it's basically the the GTS is ever so slightly detuned.

The GT refs are high.

The GT4, yes, got a slightly higher red line.

So I think it revs to eight.

The GTS revs to seven, eight.

Right. So a small but crucial difference, right?

But essentially the same engine, the GT4's obviously got GT3 underpinnings.

But it's a it's a it's a half price GT3.

And it's as visceral as that car makes all the same noises.

You can hear the brakes binding in the GT4.

You can hear the stones be inflicted into the arches.

OK, yeah.

It's very loud when you start gunning it.

So even though it's got the similar

pretty much the same engine as the GTS, there's so many other

differences to make it feel like a very different car.

Definitely. And this is where Porsche is so good.

It's the old adage. I always say when I live in there's more than waste

to skin a cat. Yeah, it's the same with the Cayman platform.

And yeah, amazing thing.

But again, you know, the GT4.

It's a track car, clearly.

But if you wanted to just drive it on the road all the time,

an accusation that could be levied at it is it's a bit too firm.

GTS perfect, perfect mix.

Lots of role, engagement, interaction with the road,

but also soft enough for it to not be too jarring.

Yeah. All in that one, one little platform.

The only thing that and as I said, you know, you could park at the back

of the cars and coffee and, you know, GTS four litre,

which is an incredible thing, might not necessarily get noticed.

You know, the looks, there's not a real aggression to the looks.

I think the 981 is a better looking car, personally, a better looking generation.

Seven, one, eight.

Yeah, it's just a bit too soft for me.

Doesn't quite match its performance.

So a bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Yeah. But as a 996 owner, you know, I'm hard to talk about aesthetics.

It's how the car drives, isn't it?

And I just I sat in that thing for four days and I'd loved it.

I absolutely loved it.

And so can I take you back to those two, which at the end of the weekend,

which one of those would you, if you were able to take them home for six months,

which one of those would you have taken home, GT four or the GTS?

Absolutely, the GTS and the GT four.

That is an incredible car, an incredible car and Alex as well.

By the way, you've got the most beautifully specced GT four.

It is absolutely beautiful.

Miami blue, yellow, deviated stitching inside, ceramics as well.

It's just beautiful.

It's absolutely beautiful.

But yeah, the GTS, that could be your one Porsche for absolutely everything.

OK, I'm also going to ask you about the R and how you same question, really.

GTS or R, what were the differences and what would you do at the end of the weekend?

If you were to take one home for six months?

Yeah, if what a question, Andy B, what a question.

There is more of an overlap between the R and the GTS in use case, I would say,

because I would be really happy blasting that GTS on a Sunday morning.

No problem for me.

That is the R is king of that territory and that use case.

But the GTS is, you know, no sloppy silver medal.

Yeah. So in that regard, I think they sit closer together

than the concept of a GTS and a GT4.

So I'd probably again take the GTS as the all rounder.

Yeah. It's just the one car that will be

Mrs. Sibs could drive that.

That'd be great. We could go across Europe in it.

It would be great. Great Sunday road blaster as well.

So where does the R sit then for you in that sort of triangle?

I'm trying to think how to put this.

Is it is the triangle the

and the GT4 and the R?

They're more sort of not tracky, but more

a bit aggressive, a bit.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I can pitch and hold them for you if you like.

So the GT4 is and again, please watch the video.

The GT4.

We're warming the video up.

It's fine.

It's all good. It's all good.

We're making people want to watch the video to get more detail.

We don't need to hold back the detail.

You're very good. You're very good.

I like it. I like it.

Yeah. The GT4 is a baby GT3.

It's a half price GT3.

So it's a track car.

Yeah. The GTS is all rounder.

If you've got what you've got room on your drive for one Porsche

and you want to be able to experience as much of that Porsche lifestyle

as you can, that is your car.

Yeah.

The Cayman R is a Porsche hot rod.

That is how I look at that car.

And a hot rod wears its heart on its sleeve.

A bit different, bit of chewed,

but you wouldn't want to drive it all the time, a hot rod.

There's a time and a place for it.

That's what I believe the Cayman R is.

It's a it's a Porsche hot rod from the factory.

Love the descriptions.

I'll have a Cayman R, please.

Would you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was going to say like, yeah, that makes sense.

You know what? I really wish that they'd done a 981 Cayman R.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's what I need to build.

Yeah, right, to be fair, it's entirely possible.

It's entirely possible.

I just, I just really love the 918 look.

And I just feel that it would be a really good,

good, good car. Yeah.

OK, right, I'm going to build a 981.

If you look back through history

and I think this is why the R is enjoying such a claim

that, again, we've gone on about for ages.

What we are good at on this podcast is identifying great

Porsches that are very good value.

What we're terrible at on this podcast is then buying them.

So, you know, so, but there is in all seriousness,

if you look back through Porsche history,

that there is a certain pattern and it's really it's why

one of the reasons why the R is so revered.

And it goes to show that it's not all about

lumping big power into a car.

It's just about the right suspension tweaks

and other little bits and pieces throughout the car

to just heighten the theatre, heighten the drama.

It's the B word, isn't it? Balance.

I think so. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but if you know, if you I would say the R,

the Cayman R is a bit like the nine six four RS in that regard,

whereby it's not a big spandangly new engine.

It's a it's a gentle uplifting power,

10 horsepower over nine six four Carrera two.

The R I think is 10 horsepower extra.

And but just suspension tweaks.

Yeah, yeah, it's just a bit of glitter.

Yeah, it is substantial glitter.

It's it's not glitter on a turd.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's got a great thing to start with

and really good quality glitter on top.

Yeah, just to bring out the best in everything.

Definitely, definitely.

And, you know, when I came away from that weekend

and obviously we'd recorded the Cayman R podcast

and I thought, you know, they really are such fantastic cars.

And then there is a bit of you guys call, you know,

go on, we'll have another look.

And I've looked on the marketplace for years at those cars.

Love them.

But I personally don't feel I need one

because again, where that's a factory hot rod.

That for me, that's the role that little Irish does.

And again, it's a similar thesis.

I'm not saying it's a Cayman R.

Slow down in front of home, slow down, way, way back, way back.

What I am saying is doesn't need a big uplifting power.

It just needs suspension tweaks,

tweaks of the throttle, in my case, lightweight flywheel

to just elevate the drama, elevate the theatre, elevate the engagement.

And that's all that is all you need.

So if you wanted to then do a 981 Cayman R, you know,

yeah, that is that is entirely possible.

There was an interesting chat on the WhatsApp group about

why don't you buy a Cayman S and do some R bits to it?

And it was quite interesting.

You could see the theories coming in and be, oh, yeah,

you could do that and you could do this, you add that and that, that.

And then somebody sort of chimed in and said,

wouldn't you be actually in the end be paying the same money

that a Cayman R would be?

You see, in theory, you've not saved any money

and there's no, you haven't got the R residues.

Yeah, yeah.

So it's a waste of time just going by a Cayman R.

Yeah, which is because we've said this on the podcast previously,

that the mid-engine stuff values wise is so much more bunched up.

Nine, nine, eleven values is way more stretch to it.

Yeah. So therefore, there is so much choice mid-engine, which is great.

But like, you know, if you take a budget and then you, you know,

you lump in an extra 10 percent and then you're another 10 percent

and another 10 percent, you know, and you know how it goes.

You know, you're starting looking for a 986 Boxster.

You're ending up with a 25th anniversary, aren't you?

Because they're all so bunched.

But so easy.

You know, sometimes in life, you can't just think like that.

You've just got to build a car that you just think, right,

what is the car that represents me and what I want from a sports car experience?

Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, I mean, I can, I can, I can see you in, I can see you in that.

Maybe maybe that could be like a Nineworks project.

Well, that'd be good, wouldn't it?

That would, that would.

OK, I think about that one.

Yeah. Right. OK.

Yeah. So I think we've done enough of fluffing.

Yes, yeah. Yeah.

We've got to start.

What are you doing?

Well, I want to mention the 964 RS.

Yes. Because drove that and that amethyst car down at Williams Corford.

That is the embodiment of the driven, not hidden collective.

It is driven, not hidden.

Yeah. Just over 100,000 miles on the clock.

Thank you to Williams Corford for letting us drive it.

Where it is currently for sale after publishing the video, the owner.

Cut all the seller of the car.

David contacted us.

So I've had a lovely email conversation with him.

Obviously, you know, the car is to be sold.

But if it does go back to him, it's not the end of the world, really.

So David's in a win-win situation.

But he has enjoyed that car for years.

It's been in the UK for 20-odd years and he's been the sole owner.

Has he really for 20 years?

Really cool. Yeah.

He's put the majority of the miles on it.

All through like Europe and whatnot.

The car came into the UK via TJS, Thomas Schmitz,

which again is like the he's missed the 964 RS, that guy.

So all great provenance in that regard.

And do you know what, Andy, that car felt tight, felt really tight.

It's clearly been well maintained.

Yeah.

And whilst I stand by what I've always said,

which is in that pantheon of Porsche Rennesports,

which is just the hallowed table.

A 964 RS wouldn't be the first car I'd grab the keys for.

It would, however, have to be the best steering.

A left-hand drive example, which is not assisted.

I think that is peak 911 steering full stop.

That was just incredible.

And I think adds into the 964 RS is go-kart feel.

Yeah. See, I'm the opposite to you on the 964.

That is the RS for me.

Really? Yeah.

Because it is the less is more for me.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't need all the extras that all the RS is since of or past.

They've got that.

Yeah. The simplicity of it.

I love the way those drive.

I've driven a couple and pretty sure I've driven a left-hand drive.

And I just felt that it was on its toes.

Yes. Oh, what a great description.

It just dances along the road.

It's beautiful. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just like a little beautiful ballerina

dancing along the road and hardly touching the road,

just pattering along beautiful things.

Yeah, that is such a good description,

that makes you want to go and drive a 964 RS right now.

Like, honestly, that is, yeah, brilliant, brilliant things.

For me, and 10 minutes ago, I've just been talking

about this special recipe that that car falls into,

absolutely does, absolutely valid.

For me, an RS needs a bit of visual drama.

Or what we would call today a GT product as well.

I found with the 40th, admittedly not a GT product,

but as the special car for me as it was,

it lacked that visual appeal.

When I walked into the garage, it didn't make me go,

oh, look at that.

In the same way a GT product does.

And for me, the 964 RS, it falls down there

because it is quite an unassuming.

With an RS, I want visual pizzazz.

I want drama, you know?

In a strong color, they've got visual pizzazz.

Not for you.

No, not for me, not for me.

You know, it's always go back to that OEM plus look.

It's the, if you know, you know, yeah,

I don't need to shout about it.

The guy that knows what I've got or knows what it is,

and that's great.

I don't need the wings and the tings.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.

I do, I do get that.

It's a classic race.

Yeah, yeah, it's not for me.

And again, there'll be plenty of people listening to this

that will agree wholeheartedly with you.

It's, you know, it's the fact it's not shouting

is part of its charm.

Totally, you know, understand that.

But for me, with an RS being what an RS is,

it, yeah, it should have something.

Even the 2.7 RS, you know, the first 911 REN Sport,

it's famous because it's the first road-going vehicle

with an aero dynamic aid.

And it's been, you know, a footprint and a hallmark

of that genre since.

So, but yeah, amazing steering.

On the 6-4, what's your,

I think, I think I know the answer to this.

What's, you know, what's your favorite takeaway from it?

I think that's got to be the steering, isn't it?

Absolutely the steering.

What are the little bits?

Anything else that sort of comes to mind that's...

Yeah, the flywheel.

The lightweight flywheel, which, you know,

it has a reputation for being hard to drive.

It's not.

Yeah, I think that lightweight flywheel thing

has come about because people have fitted

lightweight flywheels to cars that aren't an RS.

So, I'm from memory and I'm pretty sure those,

the ECUs on the RS are quite well tuned

to cope with the lightweight flywheel.

So, if you've got, I know lots of people

have fitted lightweight flywheels on 993s,

and they've got a reputation of being a right arse,

you're basically gonna, you're gonna stall it.

And I think that's where the,

the lightweight flywheel issue has come from.

Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, it's not, it's not bad at all.

So, if you've got any hold-ups about that, don't,

it's honestly, it's, it won't bite, it's nice and friendly,

but just that whole...

The way the rev counter rips around.

It's snappy, man, it's so snappy and, you know,

with its, its curb weights, 130 kilo strips compared to,

that's compared to a C2, by the way.

220 compared to a C4, incredible, incredible,

but just a lightweight little snappy go-kart.

Beautiful.

What a colour as well, and with the inserts as well.

Yeah.

On those pole positions.

Yeah.

Yeah, gorgeous.

Yeah, like those here, that purple tri-colour or tricolor.

Yeah, even the steering wheel design.

Yeah.

That looks right in those RSs, doesn't it?

Yeah, yeah.

It works, and it was in a purpley colour as well, wasn't it?

Yeah.

Matter cage as well.

Yeah.

Wonderful thing.

It's still for sale.

Is it?

It's still for sale, it's driven, not hidden,

but here's the other thing with that car,

you wouldn't be worried about the mileage.

No, you could go, yeah, you often use it,

and how many people are buying RSs that are,

yes, stupid low mileage and then get all protected?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a free hit at an iconic air-cooled 911 Rensport.

Yeah.

What else then?

I just want to touch on 992.2 GTS,

had another go in one of those recently from Porsche Bournemouth.

So thank you.

Black one, wasn't it?

Yeah, that's it.

With the aero kit.

Yeah.

Wasn't a fan of the aero kit.

Not a fan of the aero kit.

Yeah, not for me.

No. Although ironically, the current aero kit

carries the same form as the aero kit on my 996 GT.

That's right, yeah.

Uncanny.

So I didn't like that.

Didn't like that.

But yeah, what a clever car.

And again, I drove that car on track, C2 Coupe.

They're all PDK out now, they're T-Bibrids.

That was great.

Yeah, drove that on track, then drove it to a Targa variant to Sicily.

But that that's so many exclusive cotton that was yeah, it was a GTS.

Yeah, with the yeah, but it didn't it didn't look or feel like a GTS because

I mean, it was a Targa, but it didn't have centre locks.

And it had so many exclusive bits on it was a press car lavishly specced.

It just it didn't didn't have the the GTS bits and bobs on that you'd expect really.

So you forgot that it was a GTS.

Yeah, but you know, that was just a drive with the hybrid with the high bridge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but so just to drive that Coupe and have like a real well drive

in the UK on all of these more roads was really interesting.

And look, I know there's a lot of conjecture on cost of new product.

There's pointless covering it because there's nothing more to be said on it.

But there's a lot of media coverage for the turbo at the moment.

And I look at that as a 200 grand car before options for the turbo s.

Yeah.

You know, the GTS, I mean, you can pick them up used from like 130 advertised.

You could possibly even get a little bit cheaper than that, I would say currently in this climate.

But even if you're, you know, specking from new,

you're sort of like 60% of a turbo.

And it's that same thesis 60 60% that's oh, 60% value.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah, I was sort of thinking it was 60% of a turbo.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Yeah, yeah, it's more like 90% of a turbo at 60% of the price.

Yes.

Yeah, it's, you know, the the T hybrid GTS uses a single turbo.

Yeah.

The 911 turbo capital T uses two turbochargers, but that same kind of thesis.

And, you know, you don't jump out of a GTS T hybrid at 541 PS and go for us,

not quite fast enough for me.

So, yes, on its own, a lot of money, but and a GTS these days is a turbo light.

So it definitely switched things up Porsche for the 992.2.

And I thought, wow, this is a compelling drive that.

So, yeah, nice, nice to touch base with newer product and get an understanding that, you know,

all is not lost.

Interesting to reconsider it with that different idea of what it is,

rather than being, you know, the new GTS, it's more a turbo light.

Yeah.

Kind of makes you think about it.

Yeah, it's interesting.

Yeah.

Because I've driven one of those.

That was the track day that we did up at Thruxton.

I got to have a little blast out in one just blisteringly quick,

like crazy acceleration for overtakes and things like that.

You feel the electrification.

Yeah.

Really do.

Yeah.

What a beast of a car layout.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, way too much for my good self, as ever.

But yeah, yeah.

Great, great.

Yeah.

What was I going to say?

The video, I really like those one take type videos.

Yeah.

Yeah, I just, I like the conversational style of it.

It's, yeah, do more, do more.

Do more, yeah, absolutely.

And I know, you know, they're easier to edit,

because you don't need to edit much of it.

Yeah.

So they're more economical.

And I just like the actual style of it.

Yeah.

Interesting, I can't help it.

Yeah.

What do other people think of those styles of videos?

I think they flow nice.

Yeah.

You might not, you know, you might not have remembered

all of the technical detail, but I don't need it.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's more about the feel.

Don't need maybe to have every technical fact and figure,

but it's more the feel of the car and the what you're feeling

at the time comes out more, I feel.

Yeah, interesting.

Okay, yeah, but interesting to get other people's feedback.

Thank you for yours, Andy B.

That's it.

I think for me, just as a quick touch on that, you know,

as someone growing up under the romance of Top Gear, I used to love,

even on like the normal, just Sunday night, 8pm, BBC2 program or whatever.

And they did like, you know, there'd be a 10 minute package on a car

where they'd take it to the Top Gear airfield.

And yeah, I liked, I liked the whole thing that made me just fall in love with cars

and brought cars to life for me before I could drive.

So I try to replicate that on a budget, you know, from a bedroom, basically, you know,

and that's, I enjoy that more than the, you know, yeah, YouTube does lend itself

more to the one take wonder because it doesn't kind of pace as well.

Yeah.

But I just try and do it for the, you know, the romance of why we all love cars, really.

Yeah.

But according to my own interpretation, but I appreciate that.

It'd be nice to know here from other people.

Yeah.

And can we finish with an honourable shout out for Singer Vehicle Design,

who are the central feature at the Goodwood Festival of Speed this year?

I think that's really interesting.

Brilliant.

Makes me want to go.

Well, yeah.

Yeah.

What was it last year?

There was MG recently.

Yeah.

Not sure.

Can't remember.

Can't have been very memorable last year.

Yeah.

Well, it was, I think,

It's always been pretty big manufacturers, isn't it?

Well, it has, but then obviously, yeah, there was MG and apologies.

Can't, can't remember.

Can't remember.

It was, was it a hundred years of MG or something like that.

Yeah.

But the overall feeling, and we've spoken about it in the DNHC recently on WhatsApp,

that, you know, it's kind of a bit of a takeover of far Eastern oriented vehicles,

really.

And it kind of feels a bit more corporate, not, not as enthusiast led as that festival used to be.

And it is, it's a festival of the automobile, isn't it?

Yeah.

With having a company like Singer as the central feature, that is, that is a bit of a statement.

Yeah.

Which is a welcome one, isn't it?

It is, yeah.

I'd love to know what Porsche thinks of that.

Yeah.

You know, on the recent media day, I did see a lot of journalists, well, no, a lot of influencers

calling it a Singer Porsche or, you know, Porsche Singer, which I'm telling you now,

we'll have members of both parties curling their toes.

Yeah.

Because it's a Porsche 911 reimagined by Singer and that's, that's the form you sign

that says you'll, you'll do that.

But it just, you know, so, so look out for the hashtags all over the ground this summer of

people getting that wrong, really.

But like that is, that could be a potential kind of PR blunder all round, really.

So, but that, so that's going to be quite interesting.

But yeah, love, love the fact that, that they've got that.

And, and it's, it's not a big manufacturer.

It's a, it's an outfit that has taken a car that the concept again, as we spoke about the

the romance of what cars should be in, in the modern day.

Wonderful to have that celebrated on literally the biggest stage.

It's their stage.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

I've managed to blag us a little visit actually to, we're going to Singer vehicle design in

Daventry.

We've got a nice little tour lined up.

Tickets have all obviously gone and snapped up.

So it's 25 of us going to that in a few Monday's time.

Nice.

It was heavily over subscribed.

It was.

Did you, did you tell people it was in Daventry?

Because obviously they're LA based up so they didn't know.

Yeah, yeah.

They're not expecting to get on a flight to LA.

Yeah, yeah.

What a shame.

Yeah.

So looking forward to that.

Yeah.

It's going to be a bit of a singer, singer, singer summer.

Yeah.

I like it.

Yeah.

Very good.

Yeah.

Interesting stuff.

We'll, we'll keep you posted on that.

Any other business, Sandy B?

Car of the Week.

What you got?

Yes.

Car of the Week.

Yeah, I have.

You know, I saw this in the metal down at Williams Crawford

when driving that 964 RS.

Considering there's that yellow thing in the sky currently.

Yeah.

Not sure what that is,

but it's definitely cabriolet weather currently.

So I'm going air-cooled.

Air-cooled cab Slate Gray 3.2 Carrera G50.

Super, super friendly.

The stance on this thing is lovely.

It just looks so good.

It's only done 74 and a half thousand miles.

Williams Crawford have sold it many times over.

They've serviced it often.

So they know the car very well.

They said it's got a huge file of receipts,

which you want, obviously.

That's an 89 car.

So right at the end of 3.2.

And yeah.

3.2 production.

And again, Slate Gray Metallic.

Interior.

It's a gray interior.

Yeah.

Just having a look at it.

Anything else to note?

Looks to be it.

But yeah.

That just, honestly, it looked incredible.

It really did.

It sits lovely.

And yes, no such thing as a bad Slate Gray 9-11, is there?

Yeah.

At the end of the day.

So very, very cool.

That's at Williams Crawford.

It's up for $57.95.

Reasonable.

I think that's fair value for a G50 as well.

With a history.

Yeah.

Last five.

Yeah.

Really, really good.

Six months warranty.

It's on the Ninemox marketplace.

Check it out alongside a host of other cars

at Ninemox.co.uk forward slash Porsche marketplace.

Well referenced.

Nice.

And I do just want to very quickly say,

for members of the Drivenot Hidden Collective,

we dropped onto the website this week a video just for you.

It's answering your questions after a while,

our drive in the Amethyst Drivenot Hidden 964 RS.

I think it's a five, 10 minute video.

Yeah, go and check it out.

Very nice.

Good, good.

That'll be it then.

Yeah, that's it.

Going to see if this GT3 is passed or not.

Yeah.

Can we drive it home or are we getting the bus?

Yeah, I need to get home as well

and see if I can get my car running.

Oh, can we just talk about that?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Engine's back in.

Mega.

Filled it out with oil last night.

Connected everything up.

The only thing that's not connected so far is the drive shafts.

So, yeah, I just need to get a bit of fuel

because it's totally out of fuel

where I change the brake pipes,

feed it some fuel and see if it goes.

Fingers crossed.

How have you found this?

I know you've taken engines out of cars before.

I have, yeah, yeah.

But, yeah, taking a flat six out of an air

called 911 is pretty legendary, mate.

That's not its piece of piss, mate.

Yeah.

Four bolts, that's all it is, and a few connectors.

It really is.

On those older cars, it is so easy.

It really is.

Yeah, I've got, obviously, got my ramp

and I purchased a little engine lift table

which makes it very easy.

Yeah, it is.

It's, yeah, once you've done it once,

I can probably do that in a weekend now.

Yeah.

Now I've got the experience.

Yeah.

The condition underneath that car is amazing, mate.

For nearly 50 years old,

obviously, I popped round, I think,

last week, wasn't it?

And we had a good look.

And, yeah, I guess the issue with that is,

I guess the issue with that is

because it's in such good condition.

I'm not sure I've seen a G-Series

in that good condition, really.

The issue is showing the populace there

and the every man and woman thinking that

they're all like that

because they're definitely not.

They're definitely not.

So what a wonderful thing.

Doesn't it look like there's any big bills ahead,

really, like coming up on that car

that you can see?

Fingers crossed.

Yeah, mate, it's a good place to sit.

Never say never.

Never, yeah, well, yeah, of course,

of course, but it's looking really nice, mate.

So hopefully a summer of driving ahead for you there.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, plenty of that to be doing.

Yeah, so, yeah, just get some fuel in it

and make sure everything's all good.

Mega, mega.

Update next week, please.

Yes, yeah, we'll do.

Excellent, excellent.

All right, Andy B, we'll chip on then, shall we?

Yeah, well, how about your engine?

Yeah, yes.

Are we, is that an update for next week as well?

Yeah, let's save that.

All right, let's leave that on ice.

Cliffhanger.

All right.

Yeah, enjoy everyone.

We'll catch you next week.

Cheers.

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About this episode

A lively Porsche-focused chat that blends value talk, road-trip impressions, and a deep dive into mid- and air-cooled favorites. They debate the holy trinity of Carrera GT, 918, and 959-era legends, then shift to why 996 GT3s (and Metzger cars) seem to be vanishing from the market. The hosts compare 718 GTS 4.0, 718 GT4, and Cayman R—calling the GTS the perfect all-rounder and the GT4 a half-price, track-leaning GT3 experience. Later, they discuss the 964 RS’s go-kart steering and “OEM plus” charm, plus a quick take on the 992.2 GTS and Singer’s Goodwood spotlight.

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Original notes

Has Porsche lost the magic, or is the future faster and more focused than ever? This week, from an MOT station at VAS Works, Lee and Andy sit down to dissect a month of intensive driving across six of the most important models in the Porsche back catalogue and current lineup.

We start with the "Holy Grail" of the 90s: the 964 Carrera RS. How does its seam-welded chassis and manual rack compare to the technological powerhouse that is the new 992.2 GTS T-Hybrid? We also dive deep into the GT3 lineage, revisiting the 996.2 GT3 — the car that many believe represents the peak of the water-cooled Mezger era.

Then, we turn our attention to the mid-engine masters. With the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 and the 718 GT4 both in the mix, we ask if the newer cars have finally eclipsed the legendary 987.2 Cayman R. Is the R's hydraulic steering still the benchmark for feel, or does the GT4's chassis precision win the day?

In this episode, we discuss:

The 964 RS vs. 992.2 GTS: A 35-year gap bridged. Does the T-Hybrid system deliver the same visceral thrill as a blueprinted air-cooled flat-six?
GT3 Purity: Why the 996.2 GT3 is still the "sweet spot" for many purists in 2026.
Mid-Engine Battle: 718 GT4 vs. Cayman R. We settle the debate on which mid-engine Porsche offers the most "Driven Not Hidden" rewards.
The GTS 4.0 Factor: Why the 718 GTS 4.0 might actually be the best all-rounder Porsche has ever built.
Future Values: Which of these six icons is the smartest place for your money right now?

The 9WERKS Testing Lineup:

Porsche 964 Carrera RS: The analog benchmark.
Porsche 996.2 GT3: The Mezger-powered icon.
Porsche 992.2 GTS: The T-Hybrid future.
Porsche 718 GT4: Track-bred precision.
Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0: The daily-driver hero.
Porsche 987.2 Cayman R: The lightweight legend.

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