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transaxle
A car design where the engine is in the front, but the gearbox is in the back. This helps balance the weight of the car evenly between the front and back wheels, making it handle beautifully.
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Volkswagen Golf
The Volkswagen Golf is a popular, small family hatchback made by the German company Volkswagen. It is designed to be a practical, reliable, and easy-to-drive car for everyday use.
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Porsche 911 Carrera RS (964)
A special, lightweight version of the Porsche 911 from the early 1990s. It was built for the racetrack but could be driven on the road, with no rear seats or soundproofing to save weight.
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Porsche 356
The very first car that Porsche ever made, starting in 1948. It is a small, round, vintage sports car that paved the way for the famous 911.
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Porsche Cayenne
The Cayenne is a large, luxury SUV made by Porsche. It is designed for families who want a spacious vehicle with plenty of cargo room but still want the high performance of a sports car brand.
Car
Porsche 911
The 911 is Porsche's most famous two-door sports car, known for its iconic rounded shape and for having its engine located in the very back of the vehicle. It is designed to be fast and fun to drive while still being practical enough to use every day.
Car
Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS Clubsport
A race-car version of the Cayman that you can only drive on a race track. It has a massive wing, a roll cage, and a very loud, powerful engine right behind the driver.
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Porsche Cayman
The Cayman is a smaller, two-seat sports car made by Porsche with a hard roof. Unlike the 911, its engine is placed in the middle of the car, which helps it balance exceptionally well when turning corners.
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718 Cayman 718
The 718 is the family name for Porsche's smaller, two-seat sports cars, which include the Boxster (the convertible) and the Cayman (the hardtop). These cars are known for having their engines in the middle of the vehicle for great balance.
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balance of performance
A set of rules in racing that makes sure no single car is too much faster than the others. If one car starts winning too easily, the organizers will force it to carry extra weight or restrict its engine power to keep the races fair and exciting.
Person
Michael Leiters
The big boss of Porsche who is in charge of deciding what new cars the company makes. He used to run McLaren and Ferrari, so he loves fast sports cars.
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Porsche Taycan
The Taycan is a fully electric four-door luxury car made by Porsche. It runs entirely on battery power instead of gasoline, offering quiet, incredibly fast acceleration.
Person
Andreas Preuninger
The mastermind engineer at Porsche who is responsible for making their fastest, most exciting, track-focused road cars. Fans love him because he fights to keep manual gearboxes and loud, non-turbo engines alive.
Car
Porsche Panamera
The Panamera is a large, luxury four-door car made by Porsche. It is designed for people who want the speed and handling of a Porsche but need comfortable seating for four adults and a large trunk.
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Targa
A style of convertible car where only the roof panel directly above your head comes off, leaving a solid metal bar behind your head and a glass window in the back. It gives you an open-air feel while keeping the car safer and stiffer than a full convertible.
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Porsche 911 S/T
A very rare and expensive version of the modern 911 that mixes the engine of a race car with a manual stick-shift. It is built to be the ultimate fun car for twisty public roads.
Car
Pontiac Solstice
The Pontiac Solstice is a small, two-seat convertible sports car that was made by the American brand Pontiac in the mid-to-late 2000s. It was designed to be an affordable and stylish open-top car.
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Porsche 911 GT3 Touring (992.1)
A secret supercar disguised as a regular 911. It has the engine of a race car but lacks the giant wing on the back, making it look more elegant and less flashy.
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Porsche Boxster
The Boxster is a two-seat convertible sports car made by Porsche. It features a folding roof and has its engine placed in the middle of the car for excellent handling.
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Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0
A mid-engine sports car that puts a big, traditional six-cylinder engine right behind your head. It is widely considered one of the best-handling sports cars you can buy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's why you should always say you're going to be that late, actually, our bones.
Ah, I see, I always do it the wrong way around.
Really?
I've gone back about one.
Yeah, yeah, you're saying, I hope to be back mine midnight at 8 o'clock.
You go, well, you're early, you go, yeah, I missed you, babe.
Yeah.
And then that is, yeah, that's your hall pass for next time.
I missed you, wasn't it?
Yeah, we'd have to go that far.
I think this is all been recorded.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've got the evidence.
That's the soft load.
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We are largely in charge of porches by the lake.
We are, but it's still warm from this morning.
Absolutely.
Cooling off a bit now, sun's gone a little bit.
Been tight.
A bit chillier, not chillier, but just not as hot.
Not as hot, yeah, if you're not in the UK, it's been a warm one.
And in the UK, we do love to talk about the weather.
What I will say is Porsche-related to the weather.
I was down at Williams Crawford this week in Little Irish,
parked the car at the front.
There evidently was a sun trap and that was the hottest day of the year at that point.
The next day, it then surpassed it.
I got back in the car and found that, you know, I put that custom
taco in the car while the guys at Right Tune did.
Oh, yes.
Well, the glue behind that in the heat has done something.
And the taco face has warped.
Oh, no.
So it's got like a bubble in the middle.
And so when you're driving the car, it gets to on the tachometer,
the rev needle gets to 3,000 RPM and it gets stuck.
So unless, you know, it's not a small job to sort that,
taking all the clocks together.
So the weather's done me there.
But I did then see something quite funny that contextualized it the next day.
Laura and I are driving through Paul.
It's marked for VW Golf Paul up next to us and we look left and his roof lining
had fallen down, was balancing on his head.
Do you know, I was just thinking that in the last few days,
I wonder how many older cars have had that sort of thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sort of stuff has happened because this heat has been unreal.
Unreal, yeah.
So we do hope that you and your car, dearest listener, is battling through.
Yeah, yeah.
Talking of heat and sunshine.
Look at that 964 RS.
It's just sat there.
Helg-Elbe Beauty.
Oh, Mr. Andy Bower's car.
It just looks gorgeous, that thing.
Yeah.
That yellow is, oh, yeah.
If you're liking it.
Oh, it's lovely, isn't it?
He did very well buying that.
It's a lovely car.
He did, yeah.
So where are we?
We are on the air called Lawn, which actually offers a pretty decent view.
I think this is the best little spot, to be honest.
It is, isn't it?
I think we picked well for our little gathering today.
Yeah, we had a midday use, as we do at these events, you know, a number of national events.
We have like a midday meetup of driven or hidden collective members.
So that's really nice.
But yeah, we're overlooking a plethora of air called metal.
Yeah, what's left?
Chilling, yeah, chilling water side.
And then over the other side is all like the water called Riffrath.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's been another stonking show.
So we must, amazing work, guys.
Brilliant.
We must say a massive congratulations.
To James, Andy, Giz and the other volunteers that put on what is an award winning porches by the lake.
Absolutely.
Because the team scooped at the Nine Works Awards earlier this year,
the Porsche event of the year as voted by the DNHC.
Yeah.
So and it all goes to charity, which is the very best thing about it.
Yeah, great work, great work.
Right, we're just going to break from me and Lee having a talk by the lake.
This is now Sunday, the day after.
And I've managed to get James and Giz.
Sorry, Giz.
You're always going to be called Giz, aren't you?
On the line to to have a little chat post event.
How was it for you guys?
Giz.
It was hot.
It was hot for a start.
It was a long day.
It was our usual nervousness of will we fit everyone in?
What's the weather going to be like?
You know, I stayed over overnight and it rained about five o'clock in the morning.
You go, no, here we go.
Yeah, here we go.
I think you were up at four, weren't you?
Moving cars around?
Well, no, not quite as early this year, but the church fell was going off from the hour.
There, it was absolutely spectacular event.
I've got to say, what a buzz we all were on last night and this morning.
And the Instagram has been hot and and yeah, I mean, every year
we leave everything for last minute.
I mean, that's not strictly true, because there's a bit going on behind the scenes,
especially guys doing a fair bit behind the scenes as well.
But but yeah, oh my God, at the last minute, it all just comes together.
You know, if you build it and they will come
and I think that's probably our little motto for the past five years of doing it.
Yeah, I mean, the stress of we know, we've said it before, we've gone three,
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And then last year we looked at the pictures
and went, oh, you know, there's a little bit of green grass up there.
I reckon I can squeeze another few people.
I can squeeze a few more polches in that bit.
So we have in James was like, let's do a thousand.
It's a great headline number.
And then again, we're getting near again.
Hang on, where are we going to squeeze these cars?
And we've we're literally analyzing drone shots and counting, you know.
And but then now we we basically we've walked that site so much.
So we do know it intimately.
And then out the back of this field, I thought, you know what,
I'm going to take a chance.
And I spoke to our friend Mr. Mr. Nick Jeffrey.
And I said, would you guys be up for a spider area?
And the purpose of that was that we know they're so well coordinated
that, you know, Nick can put it out on their CSC chat.
And they and they parked themselves.
We didn't even need a marshal out there.
You know, once we put the first few in, sort of said, you're on your own.
And so we were thanks to them, you know, they and they.
And I don't want to call them sort of like a test case, but yeah, they were a test case.
Do you know, I didn't even know that field was there.
I didn't. I didn't go out there.
It's unbelievable.
There was a huge sign, massive sign, literally right above
the the gateway on the way through there.
And we put the I put the track, my little tractor went down there as well.
And we obviously had to help. Sorry.
Down there. But but yeah, I mean, that could well play
play a bigger part next year, that area.
Perhaps we'll get some interesting stuff down there.
Some trades down there, perhaps as well.
But yeah, yeah, I mean, a thousand cars.
Amazing, a thousand porches.
I think I only saw about, I don't know, a hundred because I
I didn't get any further than the air called lawn and up by the sort of house.
That was as far as I got.
I didn't get over to the other side of the lake and just didn't get chance.
You know, lots of talking and seeing people that you know.
That's the thing I had.
Yeah, I must have spent I had so many half conversations
because you're around doing stuff.
And guys, it's like the radio goes your radio goes.
You literally stop me.
Stop mid-sentence as Bowers shouts from the field.
Geez, where are they going?
I'm running I'm running down.
And you know, you know, I'm all kind of walkie talkies.
And obviously I'm I'm turning my walkie talkie down every time
Bowers comes on board because he's normally getting angry
somebody for doing something wrong.
And there's often a little bit of colorful language there.
And if you're standing in polite company, it can be quite amusing.
I was funny thing apparently gets his radio.
People are driving past and they've got the window up
and he's not so polite.
You're tapping on the window with the area of the walkie talkie.
Like put your window down and I'm paraphrasing.
If he was here, he would say, he goes, do you know where you're going?
And they go, no, exactly put your window down.
He's such a lad, isn't he?
He is funny, very funny.
Take me through how much rope you had to staple out onto the grass.
Then how many how many meters did you buy of geese?
I bought a 500 meter reel out of screw fix.
And some old man.
Yeah, like some 10 pegs and it was really funny on the Friday.
So what we do on the Friday, we have to stake out the areas, right?
To try and take the pressure off on the Saturday morning.
And basically, James had his pick up.
Alice was sitting on the back on the tailgate of the tailgate down
and we had a Trevor Lent as a painting pole.
And she's got the holding the painting pole with the reel.
And as James is driving across the field at five mile an hour,
he's paying out the rope.
All right. And the other guys have we've measured out.
I think it was 10 meters or 11 meters in order to measure two cars
and one gap and then the next row.
All right. And so that until we went up there, pinned them back again, pinned them.
I mean, if you look at the drone shots, I challenge anyone,
anyone to get an undulating field that straight.
It's really, really impressive.
Guy, you've given away the secret sauce.
I was just going to say that.
You've given away the secrets to all the other shows.
Silly boys.
He's deep, he's deep, he's details, right?
James has been from the the aesthetics, right?
Got to be right.
And I'm looking or some needs looking at it from the logistics.
How do you get that many cars on a finite amount of space?
So, um, yeah.
So, yeah, but it all paid, it all paid off.
Yeah, great work, great work.
Yeah, what was what cars were highlights for you?
Of the weekend?
Anything particular?
All right.
James, you'll never go or jump?
Well, I've had a little bit, as you know, I've got a bit of a thing
for 35 sixes at the moment.
I think it's a thing that sort of comes and goes a little bit.
And that that little cherry red one that was on the Paul Stevens stand
was such a delight, an absolute delight.
I even actually got a commission as the 35 sixes
were coming in for the 356 display.
I commissioned three of the different drivers to go and have a look at this car
and give you some honest feedback of what they thought of it
and how, you know, obviously what the what the value
or their estimated value was and all of that.
And it all came back and said it was the right car.
And I must admit, I have I've got there's a jury's out on it at the moment,
but I have got my eye on it at the moment.
So we'll have to wait to see what happens there.
So that probably highlights for me.
I had butterflies all day.
And we must give a shout out to our friend Ben's Porsche problem.
So again, that was that was this was the so this was an idea, right?
We had a little while back.
We had transactors under the trees last year.
They were moved to become transactors by the tennis this year.
Yeah. So this year we said, let's put 35 sixes on there.
And and again, they made for a beautiful picture.
And then in the afternoon when I did walk up there,
there was people sitting around under the trees on their picnic blankets.
And it really looked cool.
So Ben, Ben did a lot of what we did most of the coordination.
And I triaged a couple in as well.
So they look lovely.
And another, I guess, my favorites, the green group.
Again, for the reasons that they're coordinated, you know, Jonathan and the lads.
I put a shout out and they every year they've been
and they did a lovely post this morning,
doing a timeline of all the last five years.
And they obviously do part together, but they've never had that many in one go.
And they've never sort of been given the actual sort of old position, if you like.
Yeah, but the photos as you drove in or drove out
and there were just people milling around, taking photos.
And they'd draw a drop in display.
So we're getting the screens.
I mean, that took a lot of work to get it just right.
I mean, they all came in separately and together and whatever.
But it was to get the noses just right.
So I've got all the drivers back to the cars and we then spent some time
one at a time, two inches forward, two inches back,
getting them all lined up beautifully.
And it does look great from from both the ground and the the drone shots.
Fantastic, just like that.
I'm really pleased with that.
Epic stuff. Yeah.
Well, we had a big meet up at 12 noon
and all the nines works, guys.
And what a buzz there was going around there.
And I reckon there was probably 50, 60 of us.
I think you both of you missed it, unfortunately.
But yeah, it was it was fantastic to see all of us.
The best you've ever worked shirts are wandering around.
I have to say that the branding was out there, I think, Andy.
Yeah, yeah, we definitely was a lot of shirts, wasn't it?
Everywhere I looked. Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic.
So yeah, thank you for for letting us gather.
Well, by the by the tennis courts, we found a nice little quiet spot
under the trees. It was lovely.
Yeah, really, I'm still buzzing off the back of it.
I mean, it was such the weather again was kind of a bit iffy
on the on the the iPhone, whether that was saying we might have a thunderstorm.
It might be overcast all day.
And I mean, overcast is nice in some ways
because it doesn't get too hot, but car just pop in the sun, don't they?
All those different colors.
It needs the sun meter to pop off them.
And and it just turned out to be fantastic with a little bit of
cloud during the day.
But it was just I don't think the weather could have been better myself.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Of course, we shouldn't finish this conversation
without talking about the charity that benefited from yesterday.
Can you take us through that?
Yeah, so Centre Algarve.
So this is the the Manus actually has this charity.
It's a hotel in the Algarve, which is purely designed
and built for people with disabilities and accessibility issues.
And the charity flies them out there at the charity's expense
to give them holidays, basically, where perhaps they wouldn't be able to have them
before, you know, sometimes it's people who perhaps have financial challenges as
well, but people basically with disabilities that need someone that's accessible.
So that's where the money is going.
And again, the great thing about this, in fact, I literally was talking to Andy
a few minutes ago, the owner of the the manor, and he says that we've done
well over 20,000 pounds yesterday and 100 percent of that goes to the charity.
So there's no nobody making any money off the back of this.
You know, we're all volunteers.
The the team that obviously were there yesterday, the PPTL team are all volunteers
doing in their own time, all the work we put in beforehand is all voluntary as well.
So I think that's what makes this so special.
You know, there's obviously there are a lot of events out there,
but it's often a commercial aspect to a lot of them.
You know, a lot of them do do stuff for charity as well.
It has to be said.
But but this is 100 percent for charity, run 100 percent by enthusiasts,
for enthusiasts, as we say, I mean, and I must just say, I mean,
putting a tangible thing on that, one of our vendors was paying
with our notes, shall I say, I passed in the money
and, you know, we I think it was 250 quid.
I passed it to Andy in cash.
He meant he looked at me and I thought, oh, no, here we go.
What's he going to say?
He's got this expression.
You don't know if it's going to give you a ruck in for that or something.
Like it's not enough.
And he sort of winks at me and he went, geez, he tapped me with the money.
He went, geez, 250 quid.
But as one kid, a week's holiday at our place and it gave me goosebumps
because it's so tangible, you know, you start adding that.
I mean, James and I and Andy were, I'm not James and I were lucky enough
to go to the football gala dinner for the charity at Tottenham.
And some of these kids were there.
You know, they've got learning difficulties or and or the disabled
or, you know, they might use a frame or something.
And you see like the vulnerability of these kids and like the smiles on their face.
And it's just so tangible for us, you know, and it's a really lovely thing.
Yeah, it's lovely.
Good, amazing efforts to what a lovely
sort of side hustle that comes off of off the show.
If you know what I mean?
It's just great that that happens, isn't it?
You can do it and all that good money.
I think you need to put the ticket price up next year so you can earn a bit more.
We talk about this and a lot of it is, you know, not everyone's
driving around in a premium Porsche.
You know, there's a lot of people that really struggle
and, you know, to manage to buy their first, you know, six,
ten grand boxed or whatever after many years or whatever.
So I think a lot of it was, again, because it's full enthusiasm, you know,
and obviously it's great to do stuff for the charity.
And I know that the ticket price is really good value.
But it's also we want to try and keep it down as much as we can.
It makes it so it's so much more
inaccessible for anybody to come along.
And obviously one ticket per car as well, which, you know, as I think
Geese published a picture of a Cayenne earlier on there
with just absolutely stuff full of people.
So that entire Cayenne will only be 15 pounds if it came to us.
And so I think I think that's part of the the the culture
of what we've got going, really, is just making it accessible
and 100 percent to charity and have a great day.
You know, the location is just exceptional, isn't it?
I mean, the beautiful lake and, you know, the barricades
and the house itself and, you know, the old theater.
There's actually an old theater there, which which Charlie Chaplin
and Gracie Fields used to perform in, which not maybe.
Yeah, it's actually it's got a bar in it.
And that's where the bar is.
So every time we're trying to think, how can we get this?
How can we get this into the into the show somehow?
But again, it's unfortunately, we can't actually get a car in there.
There's no access for that.
However, another thing, whilst whilst we're here, actually,
if there's anybody out there who could lend us a or let us have
perhaps an old shell of a 9-11 or something that really
it's a bit kind of worthless.
I mean, I know there's not many worthless shells around,
but somebody happy for us because we were thinking it'd be quite a good
fun to do a Porsche's in the lake sometime.
Oh, yeah, you might either get it floating across
or, you know, rolling into it or something like that.
Something to be praised really, but we're always going to look out for something.
We need a floating Porsche 9-11 going across the lake.
I think if that would bring it bringing the quality down too much,
I think it'd be quite fun. Excellent.
Yeah, great stuff.
Cool. Well, yeah.
Thank you for hosting what is always my yearly pilgrimage to,
as Lee would call it, God's Country Essex.
Do enjoy my trip to Essex.
So yeah, thank you for allowing me in through the counter.
Yeah, yeah, thanks.
Thanks for coming up from the deep south.
Not as far as some, you know, would you say we had people from Guernsey?
We had we had burnt drove all the way from Switzerland, especially.
We had at least one.
Yeah, and he marshaled on the boxters.
Oh, did anyone see my Boxter 30th anniversary display?
It was like I didn't we didn't like we set up the first two rows,
but we didn't publicize it.
I thought, actually, I don't know if there's one actually has clocked this.
There was also Steve have flew in from America.
He basically got off the plane,
his wife picked him up from the airport and brought him straight to the show.
Amazing. Full on jet lag.
Amazing. Yeah. Right.
Thank you, gents.
Thank you.
Hope you have a good rest today.
I'm going to pass back to Lee and I by the lake.
Really, really, really good.
So yeah, a bit of a I'd say more condensed episode.
This week with that in mind.
Yeah, and us being on the road,
I guess we've got a couple of like newsy bits that we should cover.
Yeah, absolutely.
We'll dive in with the motorsport side of things.
911 GT four.
I never thought I'd say that in the same sentence.
911 GT four sounds weird.
Doesn't sound right.
Doesn't sound right.
But I guess that's the weirdness of racing, isn't it?
Absolutely.
It's a bit.
Was it the right thing to call GT threes and GT fours?
After the race series, they were put in.
Well, it's plugging a gap, isn't it?
So this this new 911 GT four are announced this week
is basically taking the Cayman GT four RS club sport,
which historically has been used
to some success, actually, for entry level racing.
Yeah.
But obviously with the Cayman 718 platform not in existence anymore
and customer teams still needing to go racing.
The answer is that is a Porsche is calling it an entry level
911 race car based on the 911 cup.
What do you know about it?
Well, what I know is I have declared officially to Porsche
an interest in a GT four R. You have.
I have. Yeah. Oh, I have. Wow.
I've not done so because I've come into money.
I've done so because of all the information that Porsche released.
No mention of price.
So are you hoping it's going to be a free in trying to profit
some journalism to this podcast?
Yeah, I've declared an interest, but I said I do need to know the cost.
So hopefully we can report back positively on that next week before I'm rumbled.
But yeah, only because, you know, that again, the GT four RS club sport
was entry level racing and kind of allowed
serious races to get on the ladder, if you like, before working up the up the pyramid.
And yeah, no mention of the price, which is obviously I think a bit of a giveaway.
And, you know, if you compare it, so the GT four R is based on the 911 cup car
and and the cup car is more expensive than the GT four S club sport.
So Porsche is plugging a gap to allow customers to still race on the entry level.
Yeah.
Yeah, level, but it is still going to cost
cost the enthusiast handsomely for that.
I wonder what the difference is between the that and the GT three are.
Yeah, substantial, to be honest.
I mean, obviously, this is not taken into account like balance of performance.
And yeah, you have like airflow restrictors and what not, depending on the class of racing.
But for example, I think this is a four litre flat six in the back of the car.
I think 500 and twenty horsepower, the GT three is 500 and 65
It's there's a lot more that goes into the GT three.
That's a serious, serious, serious bit of kit.
And I'd be right in saying that that GT three are is more mid-engined than a normal 911 isn't it?
Well, correct.
Well, no, it is. It is a factory driver.
Absolutely did once tell me that what actually this was the RSR.
But when the RSR sort of went mid-engined and I guess for legal purposes,
may or may not have said this pretty much came in under there.
It's you know, it's very confusing.
It is. Yeah.
But, you know, now, yeah, now, now, yeah, the 911 the mid-engine nine.
Well, it's not really mid-engine, but it's replaced that came in.
Yeah. So yeah, just again, and the reason kind of why we mentioned
I think is just a sign of another sign of Porsche having to just plug some gaps
ultimately at the moment and try and like wriggle out of a couple of situations
the company finds itself in as the Porsche AGM this week as well.
And it was really interesting to hear from the new CEO, Michael Lighters,
really offer a glimpse of a direction the company is going to turn in
because the feeling I get when chatting to employees in the UK and Germany
is it kind of just feels like the entire company is
waiting to hear from the top what happens next.
Yeah, it's difficult, isn't it?
It is really been put in a predicament that they had such plans
with everything that was in place with all the Taycans and the electromecans
and everything else that was going electrification.
That's all up in the air. Yeah, yeah.
And there's a couple of takeaway points from the AGM.
First one, I didn't realize there's a number attached to it now.
So the stillborn 718 project has cost the company 5000000000 pounds,
you know, and that that would hurt any business organization
outside of the fact of increased U.S. tariffs, Chinese market collapsing,
supply issues, so that, you know, it really does underline the seriousness of the situation.
The other thing that's worth saying is, and Andy, you and I have touched on this
in the podcast previously, is, you know, personalities are important.
You know, that kind of vision and leadership in these sort of times
to take businesses and organizations through is imperative.
And Portra, in particular, has seen success in the past.
We've mentioned Mr. Prowininger, spearhead in the GT department
and how important, intrinsic he has been to the evolution of GT models
that we all still really enjoy. Yeah.
And similarly, the appointment of Mr.
Lighters was an interesting one because he's come from McLaren,
so smaller sports car company, so must have that ethos.
And already a couple of his kind of comments and early
intimations are showing that that is absolutely where Porsche is going to be
putting its focus. And I personally, I'm quite relieved by that.
Yeah. So the kind of takeaways from the AGM
included the fact that he said the 911 will never go fully EV.
That's a good thing, isn't it?
It is. Yeah.
What a relief because his predecessor, Dr.
Oliver Bloom, basically said the opposite and that one day
we should kind of reasonably expect it in so much.
Yeah. Yeah.
And probably at the time, that was
the way it was going to be, you know, the political aspect,
you know, the politics, the what's going on in the world.
That was probably the right thing.
You know, it wasn't as it was felt at the time.
Yeah. Yeah. Everything's changed, isn't it?
It had to be. Yeah.
And as we've said previously, what was interesting is for that,
you know, Mission 2035, the EU and whatnot,
most of the politicians at the time that brought that legislation in
are not even in politics anymore, let alone in power.
So, yes, I guess kind of, yeah, that might have been mandated
and bought on the company. It's a different ballgame now,
but it still stands to reason that with Mr.
Lighters saying that it's EV only,
it won't be EV going forward is, yeah, what a great relief.
Oh, wow. Wow.
Your face. It's important, you know, it's really important.
You know, what's attracted us to the brand,
it's unfortunately, it's not EV product.
Very happy to, you know, put up with it if it allows internal combustion engine
cars continue to be made.
I'm very happy for my neighbours to drive a load of EVs to facilitate that.
But it's not ultimately why a proportion of us got into the brand.
It's not what it's built its history on.
And what Porsche has got over a lot of other manufacturers,
particularly in the 911, is history.
History, yeah.
Don't chuck it away.
So that's really, really good news.
And it may, yeah, worth sharing.
So this is a direct quote from Michael Lighters.
He says, we will concentrate our energy on what defines Porsche at its core,
our sports car DNA.
Porsche remains the brand for people who want to drive themselves,
especially in an increasingly automated world.
I personally feel like that sentence sounds so good.
Well done.
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
You know, and this is the other thing, you know, when the chips are down,
if you can unite your enthusiast base, you know, we're always, we'll always be here,
really.
But if you can get us excited, that's that.
Yes, that could be the start of the year.
I think the only, the only fly in the argument for me is,
will they be allowed, what will they be allowed to do?
Yeah.
As far as legislation and stuff's concerned.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so a little, let's hope that that's, yeah, there's some change there that will allow,
you know, that it's not across the board.
Yeah.
You know, that we've got to put out less CO2s.
We've got to, I don't know, be more correct that there's something that allows us to,
to, yeah, to do what we want to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just enjoy.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, without getting too political on it, I've said previously away from the podcast
that during COVID, you know, a crisis, the government in the UK and in other territories
drafted in experts that saw the country, like medical experts that would help see the country
through the time of crisis.
If there is a perceived crisis in the automotive and with powertrains,
let's get the experts to help the politicians rather than politicians tell experts what to
do because that is the blind leading the blind.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, that would, that's, that's crucial.
But again, go, you know, it's the personalities are so important.
And if Porsche is going to need strong leadership, which will come from personality and certainly
from what we've heard this week coming out of Porsche has been really important.
Further to that as well, Porsche, axing a couple of model lines, territory dependent.
So not just blanket, you know, but for example, Porsche discontinuing the
Taycan cross to Rismo and sport to Rismo in the US.
It's funny, isn't it?
Actually thinks a really good looking car.
Yeah, I do.
I would thought that would be the one that would stay.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
I get, but then US has always been very saloon based, isn't it?
Yeah.
They don't really do station wagons.
And is there that cross of, yeah.
Some sort of stigma in the US about driving a station wagon that you're a soccer mum.
Is it really?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's where it all comes from.
But then also there's that crossover.
You know, it's a flimsy one, but a slight crossover with Panamera just in terms of shape.
And yeah.
But the Panamera is, they don't do the
estate version of the Panamera anymore.
Do you know that was cut, wasn't it last year?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just hatchback now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I mean, this is what, you know, I know we should kind of pay attention to it,
but just haven't.
Yeah.
You know, yeah.
But yeah, the quote from Lighters, Mr Lighters, is in doing so, we are responding to customer
preferences in this market.
Also confirming the company will continue to invest in pure combustion, hybrid and all
electric models, which kind of that has been the case for a while now.
The three different styles, if you like, Porsche is going to push that.
But yeah, again, highlighting and underlining the fact that the 911 will stay with a combustion
engine.
Yeah.
Happy days.
Keep it good.
Yeah, very good.
Happy days.
Very good.
What I'd also like to know is, and don't get me wrong, it's not going to be high up the list
at all, but do you remember those Heritage Design Edition cars?
Yeah.
What happened to that then?
What do we, what we had?
Targa.
Targa Heritage Design Edition, sport classic.
Yeah.
And by the way, when the Heritage Design Edition came out, it was part of a round table with
Boris Appenbrink, head of Porsche Exclusive and one other.
And they were laying out, because that was the first of this four.
And we said, I think it was 2022.
They said, you'll have them all by the end of 2023, early 2024.
So quite a quick turnaround.
The second one was the sport classic.
The third one was the 911 Spirit 70, which the guys on the launch of that said that that was
delayed because I asked the question and they said that was meant to be a nine on two dot one
vehicle.
Yeah.
But yeah, that was 18 months ago, kicking on for now.
And we still haven't had that fourth one.
What was the turbo 50th?
That wasn't a heritage.
No, that was just a, yeah, like a special.
Right.
So yeah, I wonder, is that a marker of, you know, again, if they delayed it because it
hasn't kind of caught fire, captured the imagination.
So there's a couple of sale in the UK Spirit 70s, for example, like delivery mileage.
Yeah.
Still at, still at Porsches.
So what about the convertible GT3?
That's not a heritage.
The SE.
No, it's not heritage.
Is it?
No, it's difficult to keep up.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Yeah.
But the reason I bring that up is there is a possible suggestion that, and again,
from quotes previously attributed to the leadership at Porsche, that the company is
looking to head down the line of, you know, fewer models, but with a higher profit margin.
Almost adopts like a bit of a kind of Ferrari style.
You know, the cost of the product is elevated.
And certainly at the moment, there's no entry level Porsche available.
No.
Where the 718 line is gone.
There isn't a, you know, cheap quote unquote Porsche sports car currently.
Yeah.
But maybe, you know, the success or otherwise of those heritage design addition models and
that push for exclusivity might indicate this.
They may not have worked.
It's not quite the, you know, is it, whether it's a case of there's not the appetite or
whether Porsche hasn't quite got that right yet.
It's open for debate, really.
Interesting times coming up on there to see what happens.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
Definitely.
But certainly, yeah.
New, the message coming out from HQ this week is exciting, but also a relief.
Very much so.
Really?
Yeah.
So, yeah, very good on that.
Very good.
I'd just like to give an honorable mention for our Solstice Drive.
We've driven our Hidden Collective Solstice Drive last week.
Yes, did that last weekend.
That was so good, mate.
Yeah.
Can't tell you.
Yeah, that's one.
I think it's one of my favorite things that we do each year with a collective.
Meet early morning on the longest day of the year
and go for a drive through the city.
Yeah.
Sounds weird going 20 mile an hour in your Porsche,
but the point is they can all do them admirably.
Yep.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
Look, absolutely fantastic.
You had a nice little stop at the end.
Yeah, yeah.
Big shout out to Royal Thames Yacht Club and Monty that allowed us to head over there.
I actually stayed there the night before.
Oh, did you?
Yeah, yeah, they offer little cabins, which is great.
You stay on a yacht club, no any of the water.
Really?
Yeah, a bit of a head scratcher for me.
Yeah, what a lovely, lovely little spot.
And yeah, Monty very kindly laid on coffee and croissants for everybody at the end.
Fantastic.
And it was great because we all didn't have to pay for parking, which in London is...
Yeah, yeah, which we've done before with Unicorn.
We sort of finished in Hyde Park, didn't we?
Yes.
You know, car park and kind of grabbed a coffee from a coffee truck or something.
It was great.
Monty expertly shoehorned, or I think it was around about 20 cars.
Yeah.
Shoehorned us into this underground car park.
You know, not an inch of space spare.
It was the most excellent Tetris.
We all got in, went upstairs, tucking into the coffees and croissants.
And then we had a message.
There was a random civilian car, if you like, at the end of the car park,
blocked in fully, that happened to belong to the ambassador of Kuwait who needed to get out
because he needed to pick someone up from the airport.
Oh, shit.
So it reversed Tetris all the way.
But, yeah, that really was a fabulous little do that.
Really, really good.
So, yeah, thanks to everyone that's come along for that.
Well, good turnout as well.
It was really good.
Nine good.
19 cars.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Really good.
I've got some buying boots on the subject of DNHC.
Haven't heard from these for a little while.
There's been quite a few.
Yeah, there is.
You know, again, the DNHC definitely got the buying boots on.
So I just want to give a bit of an honorable mention, really.
So we've got Stevie swapped his 992.1 PDK Touring for a manual winged 992.1.
Yeah.
So congratulations, Stevie.
James picked up a 992.1 C4 GTS Coupe.
Simon, Mr. Jessup, picked up 964 C2 Cab Manual.
I saw him in that earlier.
Did you see him?
I did, yeah.
Air conditioning system that he had set up.
No.
So he had one of those big power banks in the footwell.
And then a fan that he looked like he'd nicked from his mum's pitching.
That was his mate, too.
Air conditioning.
Great effort.
Great effort.
Great effort.
Simon.
There goes the coffee truck.
Simon bought that.
Oh, by the way, I was devastated earlier on.
I thought all day that is an ice cream truck.
So I've been waiting for the queue to go down to go and grab an ice cream.
And then when the queue had gone, I went up to him and realized they were only doing coffee.
It's the hope that kills you, everybody.
But yeah, Simon bought that 964 Cab along to the Solstice Drive last week.
Oh, did he?
Yeah, it looked very good.
And there was a bit of a game going on on the DNHC WhatsApp of Guess the Colour.
Yeah, yeah.
He's quite proud that it's quite unusual.
Well, I've got it.
Well, Ziclum or Zyclum Red.
Don't know how to pronounce it.
I'm sure there must be an English version of that.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Yeah, very, very nice indeed.
Simon bought it earlier in the year, spent a bit of money on it,
but says it needs an engine, rebuild and paint, budget 13K.
Simon, brother, I want to tell you now.
You need a little bit more, mate.
And some more pennies.
Yeah, take it from me.
Take it from me.
But yeah, that is a beautiful thing.
Beautiful thing.
So congrats, mate.
We've also got Steve.
I love this.
Steve bought 50th anniversary from RPM Technic.
That was his first ever journey in a Porsche.
Let alone his first ever drive in one.
How amazing is that?
That is putting some, what's the word?
Some belief in what he was buying there.
Absolute faith.
Yeah.
If it doesn't work, it's nothing to do with.
Hope he's enjoying it.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it'd be a great car from RPM.
So yeah, big congratulations on that.
Ian bought a 997.1 GT3.
Hughes bought a 987.1 Boxster.
And Brian bought a 992.2 Touring,
yet resulting from that earlier conundrum
that listeners to Nox Radio would have heard a couple of weeks back.
So fabulous there.
I think we've got some more conundrums coming.
They had a few people today saying,
I think you might get one from me soon.
Very good, very good.
I think it does help people, you know.
I think it does.
Yeah, yeah.
Trash is out.
Get our opinion for what it's worth.
But then lots from the group as well.
I love, particularly like Quentin's,
which by the way has gone down so well.
What a performance, mate.
Yes, oh my god.
With his conundrum.
But what's been great to see is over the last week or so
on the WhatsApp group,
lots of collective members pitching in with their opinions
and just trying to help, which is lovely.
Everybody wants success, you know, there.
So that's been really, really lovely to see.
And yeah, Quentin, I think the situation has moved a little bit.
You know, he's definitely on the march there.
So if you'd like to hear that conundrum,
it's definitely worth going back a couple of episodes
and listening to it because the deliverance was just fabulous.
Yeah, some effort went into that.
Yeah, absolutely fabulous.
So but yeah, you do not have to be a part of the collective
to submit your conundrum.
You can email us hello at nineworks.co.uk
or even better, send us a voice note to Andy or I via Instagram.
We can play it.
We'd love to help you out, help you out on that.
We've got anything else we want to touch on?
Do you know what I need?
I need to go through what new members we've had lately.
Haven't done that for ages.
I haven't prepared anything.
So we'll do that next episode.
Love it, love it.
Yeah, it's been busy times, isn't it?
It has.
The last few months and everything that's been going on.
So yeah, apologies for not being on our game maybe as much as I should be.
No, don't be hard on yourself.
There's been lots going on, isn't there?
And we've certainly got some really exciting bits and pieces coming up.
Not just podcasty, but video as well.
And later this year, we have our own fifth birthday
that we're going to be celebrating
with something very special in Stuttgart
that's strictly reserved for a driven or hidden collective members.
Yeah, it's going to be good.
So good.
Yeah, we'll bring highlights thereafter.
And yeah, we've had a new merch drop as well.
Yep, bought a load along today, which is good.
The red and the grey t-shirts I managed to get delivery of on Friday.
So bought those for people that are pre-ordered.
And a few people have bought some that I had spare ones today.
Love it.
So that's good.
Yeah, yeah.
That was proper like a wheel of dealing out of a suitcase.
It was, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Loved it.
That's a proper trotter.
Yeah.
No, we can't take it anyway.
No, very good.
Yeah, go and take a look.
And I know it's hot, but Gilles is back in stock.
Just in time.
Water bottles and key rings.
Water bottles sold well today.
I don't know, I've got no idea why.
Yeah, way, way more importantly.
So yeah, that's it.
We'll finish off if we may with a marketplace car of the week.
Oh, yeah.
So I'd like to shine a light on that.
What I will say is Henry and Danny's chat from Lakeside of Escondam
really well.
Lots of people interested to hear about what's kind of going on
in the marketplace currently.
That's worth a listen to if you haven't done so already.
Interesting times on there.
But yeah, there is a wealth of lovely Porsche metal for sale
currently on the nine months marketplace.
Yeah, some nice stuff on there.
Yeah, really good.
So go take a look at it.
Take a look at the moment.
Well, do you know what?
Funnily enough, I know I do have, I have recorded a video on it.
So I won't go into it too much just now.
But Williams Crawford in the week was driving the base 718 and 718 Boxer S.
Oh, yeah.
I just can't understand that.
I can't get my head over the value.
Yeah.
That 718S that Williams Crawford have got is sapphire blue,
healthy options on it, manual as well.
And it's 35K.
I just think that is just so good.
And particularly because, as we said earlier, you can't buy a 718 from Porsche anymore.
So you can get what is effectively a new car, baby miles for that sort of money.
And I have to say, Andy, I really enjoyed that car.
My 718 experience prior for Boxsters had only really been the four-litre GTS,
which I love.
I love, love those.
Driven Cayman, right?
Driven Cay, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Cayman T, which I really liked.
I had a low expectation of that car.
And, you know, I mean, the line from that video was,
is it Porsche's best kept sports car secret?
Yeah.
And I still believe it is, really, because, I mean, there's not many of them.
No.
A lot of people are confused by them because on listings away from the Ninemox marketplace,
they're listed as a 718T because it's turbocharged.
Yes, yeah.
Rather than it being a model line.
Yeah, yeah.
But they're great.
But like the base 718 and that 718S, yeah, what a fabulous little engaging road
car.
So I'll save those for another time to be the marketplace car of the week.
But I loved it.
But going off the back of it, Harbour Cars have got a beautiful 718 Cayman GTS 4-Liter
in at the moment in Python Green.
Special.
It's such a good looking car.
Great looking car.
Low mileage, 23,000, 12 months warranty on it, 66,995.
It looks absolutely sensational.
And again, Python Green, where the Cayman's got slightly smaller proportions than a 911.
It just suits it.
It does, doesn't it?
It looks like a real exotic bit of kit, you know?
Yeah.
And nice.
So yeah, yeah, really, really, really nice.
GTS pack inside, PDK as well.
It's really, really nice.
So yeah, go and take a look.
It's on the Ninemox marketplace alongside a host of other beautiful Porsche metal
backed by top warranties.
We'll call it a day then, I guess.
I think we should.
I think I'm being bitten by the little eastern mosquito population have come to get us.
I'm not sure if you're feeling it.
Yeah, yeah, I'm about you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, even the coffee shop, the coffee van is gone.
So we'll head on.
Thank you very much for joining us on this quick episode, I'd say.
Yeah.
Here at Porsche's by the lake.
Again, well done to the team.
All the volunteers that have put on this award-winning event.
I think it gets better and better every year.
It does.
Really do believe that.
So yeah, we'll see you next week on that much radio.
See you soon.
About this episode
Hosts Lee, James, and Giz recap the sun-drenched success of the award-winning Porsches by the Lake charity event. They share behind-the-scenes stories of managing the logistics for over 1,000 Porsches, including drone-assisted planning and creative rope-staking techniques. The conversation highlights standout cars from the show, such as a stunning 964 RS and a cherry red Paul Stevens 356, while reflecting on how the intense summer heat affected both the event and their own classic vehicles.
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Recorded at the award-winning Porsches By The Lake, Lee and Andy discuss this week’s big news from Porsche after the company’s new CEO made some forthright announcements at its AGM. News includes the future of the 911, the true cost of the abandoned electric Cayman/Boxster platform, plus the new 911 GT4 race car.
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