Q&A: Tesla FSD Supervised Australia | EV Sales Reach 9.7% August 2025

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Hey everyone, I'm Tom. This is Joy. Hello. And welcome to today's episode of

the EV show by Ludacris Feed. Yes, very special episode. We've got Joy on tonight

because we are going to be doing a Tesla FSD FAQ, so it is going to be partially Tesla heavy

tonight given what happened over the weekend. We were fortunate enough to test Tesla FSD on

Sydney roads. Today is Wednesday 3rd of September 2025 versus Wednesday in September. So happy

spring if you count officially the dates. As opposed to the 21st when everyone else in the

world I think does that except for us. You have to speak it in the mic. I'm sorry. That's all right.

I've got one mic to share. Yeah, so welcome to the EV show once again. It's going to be a huge

show, lots of chat about, not just Tesla FSD. We've got also the month of August 2025 sales

data for BEV as well. And for that, of course, we welcome the one and only RIS actor from Carloop.

Hello RIS, how are you? Hey Tom and Joy. Hey everyone. Yeah, going well from a different location.

Apologies for a lack of kit that I'm carrying. You know what it's like when you're going from

one bonza lounge to another lounge. You can't always carry everything with you. So good to

be on and I think we've got some pretty exciting stuff to talk about. Oh, so much to chat

about RIS. Yeah, thanks for joining us. We've got a special event that RIS, Joy and myself are going

to tomorrow. So we probably can't disclose that just yet, but it should be a good event tomorrow in

Sydney. So that's all I can say. It's in Sydney. All right. So yes, let's just thank our channel

sponsors before we kick off for the evening. So thank you to Hun Cook for driving in motion

and thank you also to Carloop. Thank you to RIS and his team for empowering Australia's

Evia Rolution with his data. Thank you very much. Let's say hello to some of our regular

members and our new member, Oz Tesla owners. Thank you very much for becoming a YouTube member.

Thank you Hal for joining us. Thank you Andrew from Western Australia. Thank you Scotty.

When are you buying hardware for Model Y? Well, we can't give away secrets on this

channel too much. So stay tuned. Thank you Jim Hook for commenting on our videos too.

Yes, I've had coffee today. I've had coffee twice and I've had a glass of wine as well.

So yeah, feeling good tonight. We'll see how it goes as the night goes on.

As long as you don't wear your, sorry, as long as you don't wear your cranky glasses,

isn't it? Because then the cranky version of you comes out.

I can see RIS very clearly in the comments too. So I think it'd be okay.

Hello Evias. Hello John from England. Hello. Wow. Yes. Yes, thank you.

Great FSD vid says Aaron. Yes, it's been fun actually driving in Sydney.

Hello, it's only Dale. I shouldn't say driving. Supervising.

Yes, Graham says, well, it'd be nice to see a bit of glamour and class. Welcome Joy, 100%.

Yes, Matthew says technically Joy was driven by FSD. Supervised more than Tom this week.

That's true. She drove by herself on camera all the way. Well,

supervised the car on camera all the way to Tesla Sydney to drop off the car.

Dynamic Duo. Yes, my better half is with me tonight. Hello Jean from Southwest Sydney.

Hello, Grandpa. Nice to see you. And hello, Charles. Good evening, Tom and Joy.

Great FSD content. Thank you very much. So again, apologies. Well, should we say apologies?

Just the warning that tonight is going to be quite Tesla heavy. So understandable given

what happened over the weekend. But we will try to do some other non-Tesla news as well.

So stay tuned for that. Hello, Jez. Hello, Sir Necromancer. Hello,

hello everyone. Thanks for joining us. Nice and early. I know Kevin always

joins us in Florida, taking for granted. But yeah, thanks, Kevin. That's really far away.

Oh, hello, Evie Australia. Hello, Adam. I know Adam very well. Hello, TT and Joy. Nice to see

you there. And hello, Gary from Kevoka. Kevoka referring to Kia Evie owner's club of Australia.

Hello, Gary. Nice to see you. Hal says, I still have kids at home. I'm always cranky.

Maybe you need some coffee too, Hal.

Riz, how have you been, by the way? You've been all right?

Yeah, just, you know, usual, doing what I can, getting those bonza points up.

And yeah, so many different climates. So I was in Victoria early on. It was sort of freezing

down at the Mornington Peninsula and then coming to sunny Sydney and it's all beautiful. And

yeah, some exciting things to share in the coming sort of hopefully on the next episode.

But lots for us to chat about today. Yeah, I think you caught us on a good week. It was very

wet last week, a week before, but yeah, Sydney's finally cleared up to promise blue skies. Well,

let's kick off with the first bit of non-Tesla news tonight. Well, it still has Tesla in the

headline. But from the driven, it says BYD overtakes Tesla as Australian EV sales reach

9.7% in August. Riz, I think we chatted off camera. That's not quite a record, but

it comes pretty close. Yeah, we're getting close to the sort of 10% mark on a pretty regular basis,

which is, which is, you know, which is getting better. I think June was great over 10%, July

was a bit of a lowl. But I think things are really starting to pick up pace. And I will

probably talk about it later in the show. Money discounting that's going on. It's like

end of financially every month now. It's not just June. So lots for us to sort of see. And

the Chinese brands across the automotive industry are really starting to amp up a bit

with BYD, Cherry, MG, and I think one more four brands were in the top 10

top selling sort of brands in the country in August. This is across EVs and ice market,

but the Chinese brands are really starting to ramp that up. And we're now seeing that in sort of

the sales charts as well, even if we look a bit closely at the EVs, the Model Y, top selling car,

BYD, C-Line 7 seal, good to see seal back up there as a, as a sedan. I think Tom,

you know, you're giving it the publicity with the blue calipers. It's really sparked up

interest in that car. The Model 3 is not a bad month, but obviously there's a lot of incentives on

from Tesla. And then Addo 3 and Dolphin. So Dolphin, good to see Australia's cheapest car,

electric car, that's, you know, finally getting some sales. And interestingly,

MG4 didn't even make it the top 10. So that I think only got just over 104 sales or something

like that. So I'm not sure if that's a supply issue or whether people are getting a bit scared

by the price that's being put out there. You know, because it's gone back, I think the base

model is like 36 or $37,000 drive away. So interesting things, but yeah, I think it's,

it's good, the type of movement we're seeing in the market. And one last little point,

plug-in hybrid sales saw a second, second or third month in a row declining. We just hit

just under 4,000 vehicles were plug-in hybrids. And I'm pretty sure a considerable amount of them

were the shark and the sea lion six. Yeah, I mean, understandable given the the

infringement of a tax discount has ended across Australia. So that sort of makes sense.

Yeah, you know, people follow the money goes and rather lack of money, given the discounting

that's happened. And good to see BYD-803 making a comeback and Dolphin as well, like you said.

And SEAL, of course, just got a sentimental place in my heart there, having owned a SEAL. But yeah,

Geely's doing strong. As you said, Kia's doing good as well. EV5, EV3 seeing them a lot around

Sydney. And look, a European brand. There we go. ID4 selling some numbers there last month.

And EQE, I think, thanks to what some pretty heavy discounting risk from what we saw last

month. A lot of those are 25 grand or possibly more off the price.

Giving them away. So anyone that's interested, check out your local Mercedes. I forgot what

they call them. You know, the retail outlet. They don't call them dealers. They call them

something else. So no agency model now, isn't it? More off market. It has to be a fancier name

because it's Mercedes. You can't call it a dealership. No, it's very crass. No.

Yeah. And as people mentioned in the chat, if XPeng actually bothered to report, then we might

actually have seen this go over 10% right, Rhys? Well, there's XPeng. They're smart. I think they're

the two main brands that are not, I mean, smart. Unlikely with those two models to be doing,

you know, huge volumes. But yes, we would be getting closer to that sort of 10% mark,

even if it's, you know, 9.9. We'll take it. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Not seeing any leap

motor or D-pal either, which is a shame. Yeah, D-pal. From memory, I think leap motor and D-pal,

both of them were under 50 cars delivered or sold in August. Okay. All right. Well,

that's good. I mean, these are pretty healthy numbers, right? 10% is something we can bank

on hopefully in coming months and beyond as well. That's good. And good to see, you know,

test the Model Y delivering as well in the last month and Model 3's hanging in there, I guess.

I don't know. As we discussed last week, we were with the advent of FSD and testing this week. I

wonder whether that will spur people on to buy new cars, at least, you know, we might get people,

you know, buying the FSD package in preparation, especially in hardware for cars like the

new Model Y and 3s. Anything's possible, I think that people are, at least there's

a bit of excitement around it. One thing I'm actually seeing, particularly in the X-Peng owners

community, is a lot of talk about X and GP, you know, their equivalent of full soft driving

supervised. Is it coming? Is it going to be an announcement in Munich where X-Peng is supposed

to reveal or at least showcase a couple of their latest products in the European market?

So if nothing else, at least it's really starting to have that conversation that is

that where everything is heading. And obviously, people have been watching your enjoys videos as

well on, you know, what the whole FSD supervised looks like in our market and people are getting

excited. So positive. Yeah, speaking of this X-Peng announcement on 8th of September, so next

week, He Xiaoping, who we saw on stage in Hong Kong early this year, sharing what's next for

Europe in smart mobility, AI self-driving. So yeah, we saw Tesla's FSD in action over the weekend in

Australia, get to see it on local roads, but would also love to test X-Peng X and GP on Sydney roads

just to compare and contrast. Especially because yeah, they do their own internal AI as well,

isn't it? So it's all in-house. Yep. Tian Qi, something like that, it's their

last language model. Well, I won't dare try it. Someone can correct me.

Well, as you said, Tom, that we had the, you know, we saw what He Xiaoping had to say at the

brand night in April in Hong Kong. And, you know, it was end of July, I was in Guangzhou,

explained where that one day that I was there, they were kind enough to take me to a delivery

center and sort of showcase unofficially what X and GP can do on real roads. I was impressed.

Obviously, I haven't had the same experience that, you know, yourself and Joy have had

with FSD supervised yet. But looking at the videos and the content and all of that, it's

what they can do in Guangzhou is pretty impressive, given there's so many other

things have got to navigate over there with, you know, a lot of the bikes and trucks

parked in random spots and a whole lot of things. And they did that pretty well in the demo they

showed on the on real roads. It would be great to have it being driven by yourself and, you know,

test it on the streets of Sydney. Yeah, I mean, we saw last year, Tesla advertised,

you know, full self-driving drivers, right, just to just to train the model around New

South Wales, Victoria, all over Australia. So I wonder whether there's some secret testing

that Xperia will be doing in the next few weeks to months or, you know, whatever to train there,

you know, the AI as well in preparation for this. So yeah, very interesting.

Can't wait to see it. Let's take some comments because we will be actually doing a Q&A. In

fact, let's do it now. Let's do a Q&A for the FSD. So fire off with your questions, guys.

We might put this in the background just to remind you what we did. So we,

we, you know, were kind enough, we were lucky enough to get FSD supervised, 13.2.9 on Sydney

roads over the weekend. Thanks to Tesla Australia. So yeah, it was great to see, you know, really,

really, I don't know, it was mind blowing in some respects, not perfect, mind you. But I think

Joe and I, from nervous Nellies on Fridays, we were, you know, we were pretty much convinced

almost on Monday that, yeah, it's, it's, it'll be, it'll be good to see other testers as well,

you know, checking it out and verifying what we found as well. So yeah, let's take some

comments, fire off your questions, guys. We will, we will, yeah, ask, answer some questions.

Here we go. So take some comments too. So Lewis says FSD videos were great. I'll still

wait for the horn blast though. Aaron says all the FSD videos seem to show FSD driving

under the speed limit consistently. Joy, you want to comment on that?

I think it's probably just because it's in early testing at the moment, like, and they would rather

everyone just go under, I think they've, you know, if there's like a setting for 100%,

I think they've just forced everyone to be like 80% just in case, just for safety reasons,

because I know for me anyway, my concern with, with supervising the car is that normally when

you react to something, you can just react to something straight away. But I have to wait for

the car to react or react incorrectly before I intervene. So it's like, you know, car interact,

then I react to the car reacting, if that makes sense. So it's like an extra step.

So I think that's why they kind of slow everything down, because like, I would never

worry about reacting to something that happens. But I have to wait for the car to do something

wrong, and then react to the car doing something wrong. So sometimes I would preempt that, like,

I call the first incident that I had with the bus trying to turn into, like, because it was

straddling two lanes, which it has every right to do because it's wanting to turn left, I wasn't

sure if the car was going to try and sneak into what maybe looked like an empty lane for the car.

But in retrospect, I know that that's probably just me being nervous nilly. And I think, like,

if I had, if I could do that, that one again, definitely, I would, I would have just let the

car do its thing. You know what I mean? That's a learning point for me. And also the fact that

someone noticed that I had my foot on the brake, which is why it didn't go off again. That's

actually, yeah, again, that's like a FSD rookie era. And like, I think, yeah, I wouldn't make

that type of mistake if I was sort of using this more consistently. But yeah,

should I talk about the second one? Should I talk about the second one?

I'll just comment to that. We were, you know, we were trying our best not to intervene, right?

So we were on camera, obviously, we wanted to create content and feedback from

US viewers on our, you know, and our stream, sorry, in our videos, saying, look, just let

it go. So we tried to let it go as much as we can, just let the AI do its thing. So that's

why, you know, sometimes you see odd things like that. And also the software, someone said in the

comments, the software that this is running on is different to the US. So they're a little bit ahead.

Also, we didn't have the choice of hurry, chill, or standard. So we just had whatever they gave

us. It's probably somewhere between chill and standard, just because it's the first release

in Australia. So just to answer that comment. Yes, go ahead and talk about your second

incident. Okay, the second. So I, like, I watched the replay. And just to make sure

that what I thought was happening in my head was actually what was what was happening.

So many times when I can, when I can see that, okay, I think something might happen,

you'll see me kind of like do this to like, I may or may not grab the steering wheel,

like, you know, the man and his dog or like, you know, pedestrians looking like they're

going to cross. So I'll do that, but I won't actually do anything. I'll just sort of like

wait to react. And so I did not actually stop for that vehicle until I saw wheels were moving and

it was coming out. So if you go back, you can go back and look at it super slow mo wheels move

before I actually press a brake. So yeah, I don't know, look, that one, I would absolutely do it

again. Like I was just waiting for, you know, if the car, if the car hadn't sort of started

moving, I would have let the car sail through the intersection. Because I do it right away,

that car is actually stopped and I'm the one that's moving. But as soon as I saw those wheels go,

I'm like, I'm stopping because I could, I could see that whole like really awkward,

you know, interchange going on where that other car had stopped. And it was like,

no, you go, no, you go, no, you go. And I was like, I can see where this is going to go.

So yeah, I, like I rolled up to that situation just as that was, as that was happening. So,

but go back and watch it if you don't believe me. You'll see my foot hover over the brake,

but I don't actually press it until I see the wheels move of the car coming out.

It's funny, some of the viewers from the US and even some here, you know, that's great to

have their input. But sometimes it's just, it's, you have to almost defend yourself.

Because any intervention you do, they get grumpy or they question, why did you intervene?

Right? It's almost like, you're not allowed to intervene on our tests. Just look, I get it,

right? You just want to let it go a little bit. Let's see what the computer does. But

I think even we only had this car for the first, first 48 to 72 hours. I think we tried our very

best, right? And honestly, like when you're looking at on a screen, like it looks like a

simulation, like it does, it's not as real if you're looking at it on a screen, but when

you're actually sitting in the car and the car is moving and that's you, I think, you know,

most people, like would feel differently. And unless you, you know, drive Formula 1 cars for a

living or something, and obviously that doesn't faze you at all. Most, I think, normal people

would react how we would have reacted. I think so. I think we had some, you know, obviously some

extreme comments wanting us to push on. They said they wouldn't have done it, whatever. That's

fine. I think most people probably would have felt what we did was quite reasonable. So

hopefully you enjoyed our content. Question from Strolling Sydney, how would you react

to emergency vehicles? Yeah, well, we sort of discussed that in our last part six video. So

check that one out. When is the public release of FSD? I mean, I can say that it's not far away.

Okay, I'll just give you that. That's all I can say. That's what Tesla have hinted at in our

discussions. So I don't think we have to wait too long. That's all I can say. Okay. So I

don't have the exact date for you guys. I just don't. But I don't think you guys have

to wait too much longer. I don't know whether it's hardware three or four, but yeah,

I think it's going to be closer than you think. Gaffer says I'm a hardware three FSD

Auckland, got it five years ago. Yeah, I'm feeling for you Gaffer. A lot of people are like you.

Think I'm owed it or hardware four upgrade till I get it. Yeah, we'll see what happens.

Would you close your eyes when it's time to be here? Great question. Would you close your

eyes from start to finish? Heck no, no, no, no, no. It's supervised. Okay. You can't

supervise the car when it's when your eyes are shut. Good question from Mac. Was the amount of force

required to disengage FSD more or less than autopilot? For me, it felt the same amount.

Same. Break it or turn the wheel, whatever. It's the same.

Charles says, I believe Jason Tech AU shout out Jason, if you're watching,

I did some testing and visited Melbourne. He mentioned hook turns. So we'll no doubt

have some trim action. Good. Good. Check out that hook turn action from Melbourne.

Riz, hook turns in Melbourne. Would that be something you want to try out for yourself?

I'm more into the hood turns because if you're in to Rack East like I am, which is the real hood,

basically anything can happen on the streets. So you got to make sure the car is ready for that.

But on a serious note, it's amazing at how much testing both of you had been able to do.

And I think, unfortunately, sometimes people that are observing may think that you may not

have had to intervene, but being in the situation, it's a very different thing. So,

you know, the environment, the surroundings, everything else, all that, you know, it's all

too real. So yeah, I enjoy your spot on that, you know, usually you'd react when something

happens, but you're waiting for the car to do something. And then you're going to sort of

see what you may need to do. It's incredible at all the different angles that you've covered

your drives with, the different sort of roads, real world conditions, car parks, you name it.

Some of the best testing and obviously there's people like Jason, you know,

Nash and the Gong, a couple of others, Pete out in WA doing their bits as well. It's just

really great to see. And I think the rest of the world is pretty impressed, especially if you

sort of look at the Tesla community at the things that we're picking up here, such as kangaroos and

other things that have been spotted in some of the videos that the car is able to react to.

It's pretty impressive. So yeah, well done to you both and all the other content creators

that have had a chance to play around with it. And you know, the system will only get better

from here. Yeah, good point, Bruce. Yeah. I mean, with each drive that everyone does, it's

retraining the AI and all the Teslas they've been driving on the roads. It's just adding to the

algorithm. So it's fantastic. And we are the first right hand drive market outside the North

American continent to have this software. So we feel very honored to have been part of that

initial testing group. So thank you again, the Tesla for that. I have a theory. The theory

is that every time something happens in a right hand drive market like ours, like when the first

Tesla video started to pop out, the one in Melbourne with the whole turn, then there was one in Sydney,

then there was one in New Zealand. Our friends in the UK got a little bit jealous.

Particularly the good people at the Tesla Owners Club of UK for all the very right reasons.

But you know that the day when all this news sort of came out that Friday

around Tesla FSD and everything, that's all the testing or the showcase that they did in Australia.

I think for the very same reason, just to make sure that our friends in the UK

felt a bit more comforted by this dropping in Australia, they got the model life performance.

And they're getting other things that we're not getting. So I think we're a

bit jealous of that. But in all in all, the testing that's coming out of Australia is

it's amazing, especially the kind of weather we've had. We've had some good weather.

Oh, we're so blessed. We know what's better than FSD Riz. It's beating the poms at something.

I'm so happy that we got it before the UK. So no apologies at all from that point of view.

There have to be some benefits to living upside down, isn't it?

Exactly. As a former Tesla Owners, has the FSD availability in Australia made an

impression on your thoughts of the car? I am impressed that this hardware is already in

the existing cars right now. So yeah, all it needs is a software update and money, obviously.

But I guess it's also knowing that there are a lot of other brands who are also

working on their version of it. So it's not like it's like Tesla are the only ones.

So it just makes me excited for just EVs in general and technology in general,

rather than specifically Tesla. Like we said earlier, happy to test XNGP.

We know GLE is working on something too. So yeah, should be good.

I've been in a car with Huawei system. That system blew my mind,

like the street that we went down and how narrow it was and people were coming towards you

in the same lane that you're supposed to be in. That was back in April and that was

very impressive. But that system has LiDARs, so many cameras in a lot of the Huawei

collaborative models that they're building in China and XNGP, of course. But yeah,

this is the first proper system that we've had in Australia. And yeah, from all the videos

and everything, it just looks incredible. Thank you to Sim for a $2 donation live.

What do you call these? We've got chat chat. Something chat. Super chat. Thank you. Super

chat. Yes. Chipping in for Joyce Mike. Thank you very much. That to the kitty.

What would you guys rate the software for safety based on autonomy, decision making,

and smoothness of the drive? Okay. So you want to go? Okay. So I was really impressed by how safe I

felt myself in the car, but also I think it will handle pedestrians and animals and things

like that really well. Now, I don't think we ever had sort of like it never was really

tested with like children height. So that's the only thing I can't comment on. But from what

I've seen, every time it spotted anything that looked remotely like a human, it would pretty

much slow down. Like I never felt that it did anything that would be dangerous towards

like pedestrians on the street. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, I felt fairly safe too. But having said

that there were a couple of times where it was a bit hairy. Like as you might have seen in the

first video with the keep left sign that was twisted the wrong way. For those who question

whether that would have hit, it would have hit. Let me tell you that it was very close.

I'm not sure the video conveys that, but if we hadn't intervened, that would have definitely hit.

Now, if that had been a person though, I think it wouldn't have. No. Yeah. If you had recognized

that as a person, it wouldn't have done that. Yeah. It's not a safety thing as such. I guess

it's expensive to pay the excess possibly, but it's not a safety thing. I think most humans

around the area, apart from kids, which we didn't see any examples of, I think I would,

I was pretty confident that it wasn't going to just sound like an example of a child.

No, let's not play with children's safety 100%.

Decision-making, I think a lot of the decision-making issues were with the nav, as people have said.

The nav possibly confuses the AI. I know I've got a basic understanding of how it works. It maps

the area around, but then the nav gives it input as well. So I don't know. I don't know what the

answer is. Does it need to develop its own nav Tesla or I don't know what it is? So not smart

enough to answer that question. Smoothest of the drive yet, very smooth, 100%. My smoother

than I could have driven or Joe could have driven, I think. Someone said, want to see what happens

when you meet cars coming the other way. I think that was in the start of one of our videos.

That was during the night drive. I think something came towards us.

Yes, that happened near Barangaroo, but there was also an incident, not an incident,

is in like where you've got to wait and the other car comes and there's only

space for one car to pass through at a time. That is in one of the videos.

Which I don't know. Adam says, definitely echo the slowness

of hesitation to drive. Correct. Yes, it does tend to be a bit slow, but I think that's

possibly because the software is probably not the same as the US. We get a modified version

of that in Australia just for our first test. And that's the thing though. I mean,

you can press the accelerator, but then why are you in FSD? You might as well just drive.

It actually keeps the speed way better in autopilot. I don't think I ever really

pressed the accelerator in autopilot unless I'm overtaking like a big truck or something like that.

I'd love to try it in hurry mode actually when it does drop.

Thank you, Gaffer. Two bucks for the mic fund. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you.

And what else can we thank you, Jason, for watching. Coming soon as the official line.

Yep, from Tesla, I agree. Can it direct you? See, we tried to indicate either left or right,

couldn't get it to change lanes. So that's the answer to that.

That was on the Harbour Bridge. It didn't change lanes.

Yeah, couldn't get the change. I actually intervened to get out of the S lane

Actually, one thing I did spot today, it was on one of the social media platforms.

Someone, maybe someone testing in WA, maybe it's Harold, somebody was on a highway

and it did overtake a car that was going slow in front of it, apparently.

Okay. So it just did it on its own.

Adam's saying also indicating changes lanes like Odyssey, all right? We couldn't get

it as a go. So thanks, Adam, for verifying that. Deal with any cyclists or bikes?

Yes. I mean, motorcyclists zipped around us at one stage. No problem.

Rizz in the hood. Yep, 100%.

Tractors to Teslas, what to rack become.

Thank you, John. Amazing job, Tom and Joy. Thank you. I think there's a reality showing

it here. Okay. Tom without coffee. Yeah, it's a different side of me.

Also, you don't want to be the guy driving you. The system fails and you don't take over. Yeah.

Yeah, just be careful. It's still supervised at this stage.

Thanks for your comments, guys and girls. Keep them coming.

Wow. I did through these. Do you see anything? Let me know.

Yep. See how it goes on narrow streets like Maripul. Yeah, absolutely. Lots of tight

streets around inner city like Newtown King Street. That's an interesting one as well.

Well, remember Tesla did the thing in New Zealand? That was pretty narrow. I don't know if it's as

narrow as Mariquille, but yeah. We did a little bit like that up in Waraway and it seemed to cope

really well. Joy's got a great radio voice. I agree. Thank you, Hal.

Do you want to dip your toes in the vision versus the lighter? Not really because we

haven't seen any lighter self-driving. So if someone wants to sponsor us to show that or test it,

happy to do so. Yeah, Oz Tesla owner says there've been 4.2 billion miles driven by Tesla FST.

Just get close to any kangaroos. Nope, we did not.

Many people from the Tesla Motors Club forums here tonight. Hello, guys and girls.

Thanks for watching. Yeah, Ruzzo, someone says Tony says Huawei and Harmony Software will be interesting.

It's, yeah. If the pace at which these softwares in all of these cars

on FST or something similar is how quickly it's getting better, it's incredible. Yeah,

XNGP, Huawei's Harmony System, what we've got in FST. And there's a lot of third parties

also working on that sort of stuff, you know, the full self-driving suite or equivalent.

BYD's Godseye, I'm not sure, in the top spec cars, what's that supposed to be like?

So yeah, really, really, really exciting stuff coming.

Yeah, George asks, did the car pick the wrong lane? That's why Joy went through

Harbor Tunnel, Eastern Distributor, Z-Linuxet of Harbor Bridge, Western Distributor,

Anzac M8 to St. Peter's. Don't know, we had a video example of the car missing three off-ramps.

So check that one out. That was, it's called Bridges and Tunnels. We just let it go, right?

Missed three off-ramps. So yeah, it felt like a tourist that day.

So yeah, I'm sure it'll find a way eventually. It's just amusing to watch.

I mean, yeah, that's technically not the full self-driving fault. It's the navigation

fault. That's what people kept saying. Yeah. What's the consumption like?

I think from memory about 13s on the Model 3? I'm not sure, but I reckon it would be better

because it was so smooth, like ridiculously smooth. That's what happens when a computer drives you.

Yeah, Bernard says, yeah, I agree. Members of the American Tesla community,

who commented a lot on our videos, we've got a lot of Americans to watch. So thank you,

Americans. And thank you for commenting. Very bullish about V14 being a robot taxi experience.

Yeah, bring it down here. We'll test it and give you our thoughts for sure.

See, with the robot taxi, are you allowed to sit in the driver's seat so you can take over?

Or no, you have to sit in... No wheel, right, Ruth? No steering wheel, I think.

No, the robot taxis do have one. The supervisor is sitting, I believe, in the passenger side

and then you're supposed to sit in the back.

I would kind of feel safer if I can take over. But then again, I think like now,

it's like, well, I'll just get into an Uber and I have absolutely no control of the person driving it

and I don't know them at all. For science, should we try and take over the Uber driver's

steering wheel, see what happens? That would get you banned, I think, for life.

Jason says, seems to be going slow in the middle lane right now on the screen.

That was quite a funny moment. All the cars dipping around us. We just let it go.

Didn't press the accelerator pedal. This was the Sunday one though, right?

So that's why I was like, I'm not worried it's a Sunday. People aren't going to beep us.

Donald says, I showed my wife one of your videos and she wants a Tesla for our next vehicle now.

Okay. Did Tesla self-insure the loan vehicles? I'll be honest, I don't remember...

I did read the loan things. Still on us, isn't it?

It's probably still on us, I mean. Supervised insurance claim.

Someone said we might have gone through, well, the car might have gone through a

red light, sorry, a speed camera in the tunnel. So if we get a speeding ticket,

we will make a video out of that. Actually, the one where I was supervising it back,

I did use the scrolly wheel as suggested and it did go from like 65 down to 60. So I did

actually manage to successfully use the scrolling wheel and not sort of disengage autopilot.

So I count that as a win for me. Here's a great question. This comes back to my EQ

awareness issue with the car, where the AI can recognize that, turn it into a large language

model. Do you think it will stop the Lollipop people, right? Because it does slow to a

pedestrian crossing, yes. But what if that Lollipop lady is looking at you or a person

is looking at you and wanting to come out with their stick? Would the car recognize that?

That's a tough one, right? I've seen it do gesture, hand gesture,

observations and make decisions on that based on some of the videos coming out of China.

So I think it should be able to do that. But of course, we need to test on every mark,

it's different. Yeah, exactly. I mean, sorry. No, I just want to say,

like, I don't know whether it's the same person or just people keep saying,

I want, you know, like how it can do oncoming cars in a restricted street.

It is not an issue at all. Like from, we've done that a few times in the videos, it absolutely

doesn't seem to have problems with that at all. Like that doesn't seem to be what its weak spot

is, I would say. No, it does that very well. The weak spot is definitely navigation and forks

at the moment and just very tight off-ramps. So that'll improve, I think with time,

if everyone's going slowly and it's like a really narrow bit and it's like only I get to go or,

you know, the oncoming car gets to go and then you have to wait for the oncoming car or kind of

like scooch it a little bit out of the way. It actually does that all really well. Yeah.

It does exercise caution though. So it'll probably let more people go than not,

which is probably okay. I think I don't mind that.

This is a good question. One worth pondering. If two FSD cars show up, who gives way?

Have you seen those reels on Instagram where you've got chat GBT talking to chat GBT?

You know, it's like a phone conversation. Like, no, you hang up. No, thanks very much.

And no, you have a good day and it just keeps going and going. So I wonder,

wonder what happens when two FSD cars do sort of meet like that? I don't know.

Maybe one mic. Sorry, I was just going to say, I mean, they can probably work out

microscopically who's who technically got there first.

Yeah. We've seen the Vamo videos, right? In car parks, they're honking at each other and

they're going around in circles. So that's what could happen.

That's right. How does it handle keep clear? Okay. Well, there's an example of this in

this video later on when we get back through Mosman. There's a massive keep clear area in

front of a fire station. I think it saw it. You see the reverse chevrons on the screen.

So it slowed right down to the line and that we intervened because we weren't sure what was

happening, but it probably would have stopped for that massive keep clear area.

The other thing about it is that we worked out that it's quite a late indicator in general.

And in this particular situation, it was indicating way earlier than it normally would

if it was turning right up at the junction. So we weren't sure whether it was like,

are you indicating for the top of the junction and you're keeping clear or are you trying to

turn into a building? So look, on the spot, we're like, you know what? I don't really

want to see this turn into a building. So I'm just going to be on the safe side and just

cancel it. It is supervised after all. There was one thing I wanted to show you.

Okay. So Joy, this is for Joy because she drove and picked our traffic on Monday.

Did you feel we were being tailgated at all?

Generally not too bad. I think I was fearing it more than it actually happened.

I think I was actually really pleased that I got stuck behind a massive truck going down

the Roonga Freeway and into the tunnel because it gave me the perfect excuse to

be going slowly and would have allowed every car that was flying past me

to have a good laugh at the Red Tesla that was stuck behind the giant truck. So I was actually

really glad for that giant truck because it gave me an excuse to be going so slow.

I saw that actually. Yeah. Yeah, here we go. Lewis says the Brisbane launch video from the

media crew that went to Brisbane last week, people showed a keep clear that it is near

my house and it dealt with it really well. That's good. Yeah, probably better than most people who

queue across intersections and keep clears actually. Would you use FSD in daily city driving though?

Right now, probably not personally. I feel more stressed driving it. Someone made a good comment

on one of our videos. They said it makes bad drivers better, but it makes good drivers worse.

So it sort of levels the playing field like that. I thought that was quite a good comment

and I don't think I'm an excellent driver, but I like to think I'm a decent driver.

I think it makes me worse at the moment because I'm stressed and they're taking lanes and going

slower than I would personally. This is on this software version, but we'll see what it's like

obviously with each update. What about you? Did you feel like you were worse?

I think it's not that I was worse, but I know obviously in the areas that I was more familiar

with, I was more like critical of it in the sense that it's like, this is not how I would

have driven and I would have done this differently because obviously I know the kind

of like the optimal way of driving those areas. But once it started, once I was over the bridge,

or rather under the bridge through the tunnel and in areas that I don't drive as often,

I was actually in some ways just like, you know what, I'll just let the car do its thing.

And then I could kind of like just enjoy the magic a bit more because

it was like, well, the car is driving and I have no idea where it's going and I'm just

trusting the car to get to where it's going to go. So yeah.

Yeah. It does feel magical, I must admit. It's, you know, it works most of the time.

99% of the time it works every time. So that's a comment from...

There's another movie reference. Yes. It is pretty good.

That's the thing. And I'm always like, no, I choose not to like get that reference,

even though I do. And I'm like, no, I'm just going to pretend like I didn't hear you say that.

Would FSD recognise flashing lights at a rail crossing?

I reckon it would. It probably would. Yes, yes.

It did try to stop on the Sydney light rail tracks though at night time for us, which I had to move.

And again, it's like, would FSD recognise flashing lights at a rail level crossing?

Probably yes, but would I have already pressed the brake anyway? Probably yes as well.

He's a good question actually. I thought about this yesterday when I was walking the dog.

Does FSD lose any features when all network connection is lost,

easy in a tunnel or very rural areas? I mean, I know it's mapping the roads around

it as it happens on the FSD computer, right? So I don't think it does.

Navigation, you might lose that. That's an issue.

We saw it happen when we went through the M whatever tunnel. I never know the numbers.

But the navigation definitely was lost. It thought we were probably,

you know, like about 20 metres to the left of where we were.

But the visualisation on the screen showed that it knew, I think I said something like,

it still knows we're in a tunnel shape, so it's still going to keep going forward.

And I think that fits with what other people have said about how

if you plonk it in a place that's completely new, it's just doing its life mapping and

it'll just keep going around, you know, taking left, taking right, going in circles.

And we'll just continue driving until it runs out of battery, even if you don't

put any navigation in. So I think it would actually be OK in that situation.

It doesn't need the navigation and it doesn't need a network connection,

which is reassuring to know. It's fascinating. Check this out, Riz.

Harold Murphy is going to do a lap of FSD in two weeks.

Lap of Australia on FSD. That would be awesome.

Hopefully he can document that haul for us.

Well, that is pretty cool. I've seen videos out of China where it's rural China.

There's no lane markings. There's random things on the road and the car is just doing its thing.

So as you guys said, it's based on localized what it can see.

And I think if the navigation is confusing it at the moment in some situations,

like tunnels and exits, maybe the next version is a little bit better,

but that's the big thing. It's improving so quickly.

The more data they get, the better it is.

They know what the car is supposed to do at that time.

It can only get better, which is all of those things.

This is just such an awesome preview of what's to come.

It's a challenge for Jason, for Adam watching, for Nash, for Harold.

Because we don't have the car anymore, so we can't do this.

Two thumb reset when you're driving on FSD.

Doesn't stay on FSD.

Here's a nice little short for you guys to try.

All right. Well, look, we might take a break from the Q&A.

Keep those questions coming. We'll just keep monitoring it.

Let's push on with some more content.

Riz talked about this a bit earlier in the show.

Tesla Model Y performance launching in Europe, 0103.5 seconds.

Apart from going faster, Riz.

I should say too, Roland sends his apologies tonight.

He had to work late tonight too.

But he would love to have been here to talk about Model Y performance.

But Riz, I feel it's in...

What did you learn from the Europe launch?

TopSpec car, performance, faster, more range, which is good.

It's got, I think, a slightly bigger battery in it.

The production has already started in Giga Berlin.

So it's being produced in Berlin.

I didn't know there were shipping cars in right-hand drive to the UK

because it's available in the UK market.

So, yeah, quite interesting.

I think it looks cooler.

There's a photo floating around on X of the old versus new.

I think it definitely looks pretty mean.

I like the new wheels.

Roland, we did ask before the show that if he had any comments,

and I think he said it could be faster.

So, basically, Roland is like one plus, never settle.

So he wants TopSpec stuff coming out.

He's never satisfied, is he, Roland?

He wants more, more fastest.

It's pretty cool, sales-wise, hard to tell.

Actually, one interesting thing is it's got the upgraded seats,

like the Model 3 performance.

It's also got the 16-inch larger display that comes from the

then recently launched Model Y L, which is a six-seater in China.

So a couple of those things have already been carried over.

So it could give a bit of a hint that Tesla really is going to be

upgrading the screens in Model 3s and Model Ys to something,

I think it's got higher definition, it's slightly bigger,

and potentially doing a little bit more work on seat comfort

in some of the models.

So, yeah, all in all, it's good.

It's got adaptive dampers that first appeared in the Model 3

performance, so this will be the first Model Y to have that.

What was really incredible about those things is that

even though it's a performance car with low-profile tires,

which can be very bumpy and shaky on the road,

it drives as well as some of the standard-range cars.

In the Model 3 performance, you feel like it's a normal Model 3,

but then when you push it a bit, you can see it stiffens up.

It's actually a lot better on the road, handles better, faster.

So if that's what they've done with this Model Y as well, it's expected.

Obviously, we're waiting for it to hit Australia,

so that Tom Joy could get tested.

Roland can make sure that, you know,

how do we get more performance out of this?

So, yeah, looking forward to it possibly late Q4

if it does come to our market.

Well, again, a little birdie has told me that it might be sooner than that,

so I think we should watch this space.

Tesla's been very friendly to me this week,

but yeah, I think we might be getting surprised as well.

But here's a philosophical question for you and Joy.

Given FSD, if you listen to the FSD crowd,

they want everyone to use FSD.

What is the point of a performance car anymore

if you can't drive your own car fast around the streets?

If you're sitting there driving slowly on FSD,

do we need these cars anymore?

Mm, Joy, you're just a thought.

Look, I mean, obviously my first Tesla was the Performance Model 3,

and I do miss the fact that it could just go so ridiculously fast,

but when did I ever really get to use it?

Because I, as you know, am relatively cautious,

so I won't, like, zip off at the traffic light

because I still actually wait to make sure

that someone else isn't trying to beat a red light,

and I'm gonna just, you know, get T-boned.

So I won't be the one that's like,

like I have to actually factor in the fact that the car was so fast

and then kind of like, count, now go, you know what I mean?

Which is kind of like, yeah,

it's kind of like wasting the performance aspect of the car.

Yeah, we are waiting on full self-hooning, says Gaffa.

Yeah, I mean, you know, apparently FSD is good for all situations,

so we never have to take off FSD if you listen to the right people.

So what do we do with these cars?

We can't use them anymore.

Anyway, I'm going to offer an attention here, so just,

let me start a new channel, this FSD philosophy.

Let's push on, and Riz, you attended a launch this week as well?

Yes, yesterday, Nisanaria, can't say too much about how it drives,

but yeah, it was a nice drive from north of Melbourne,

Talamarine down to the Mornington Peninsula, Cape Shank,

nice driving roads, and yeah, all in all,

I think in about a week's time we'll know more,

but yeah, specs-wise, it's looking good.

22 kilowatt AC in some of the higher-end models,

100, you know, I think 30 kilowatt DC charging,

apparently it's got a pretty flat charging curve,

so I think 10 to 80 percent in just over 30 minutes.

And yeah, sorry I can't share too much on the driving front,

but the car looks good, you can see it in the photos,

and yeah, lots of space on the inside, which you can send photos as well.

I'm glad you're able to attend, Riz.

I'd have to send my apologies to Nisan.

We did get the invite, but just life at Minnebecans,

but yeah, looking forward to the loan of this kind of a few weeks' time

to test it in Sydney as well.

So yeah, great to see Nisan back in the game,

and yeah, looking forward to hearing about the drive impressions,

Riz, when the embargo drops.

Let's push on.

So speaking of Roland, here is Roland.

The Hills are alive.

The Hills District gets its first Tesla supercharger

in Borkham Hills, New South Wales, that's great.

The Hills area is a massive area in Sydney,

and look, to be fair, most people in the Hills

have a huge block of land and a huge house anyway,

so yeah, it doesn't make sense to put too many DC chargers,

but hey, good to see a DC charger here.

Does Tom always throw that many song references

and movie quotes in his livestream?

I don't know why you're talking about it.

Yeah, which ones?

But look, back to the news at hand,

we've got time of youth charging.

So 40 cents between, what is it?

These times are weird.

It's really fragmented, 11 o'clock to 4 a.m.

If you want a cheap charge, cheap charge,

go to Borkham Hills.

40 cents is incredible, that's almost cheaper

than Amber sometimes, it's pretty good.

Even peak is 64 cents, that's not too bad actually.

This is the part that I don't understand.

There's a lot of people in our EV community

that say Tesla superchargers avoid them at all costs.

They are the cheapest chargers you can sort of find

for DC charging, that's reliable,

even if you're driving a non-Tesla.

You look at what EV networks,

ChargeFox and everyone else are charging these days.

Tesla's still up there, and in terms of how low,

especially if it's time of day, like this,

12 a.m., so midnight, no, 11 p.m. to 9 a.m.,

40 cents a kilowatt hour for Teslas,

and obviously a bit more for,

or pay just pay 10 bucks a month

and you get the same pricing.

I don't know if this one's open to non-Teslas or not,

but it's good to see that they're coming up

in quite a few locations.

Yeah, I mean, that's worth almost driving up there.

And to say how low to roll in, to get cheap charge as well.

Is four enough though?

That's the thing we're discussing.

I mean, most people up there have a house and land,

an off-street parking, an off-street charging,

so I think four's probably reasonable.

It's not really on the way to anywhere.

I'm sorry, Hills District residents, but it's not.

It's like the north-west of Sydney.

You know what I mean?

It's kind of in its own little pocket, right?

Well, I'm in Hills now, so.

You are.

I'm in the Hills now.

So all I can say is any charging anywhere is welcome.

But yes, everything's a bit bigger out here.

Great risk.

Climb every mountain.

That's right.

Shift worker pricing, 100%.

Imagine that.

Doing a night shift, come back and charge.

Fantastic.

Uber drivers, right?

Uber drivers.

Taxis.

That's good.

Yeah, pretty close to the M7.

That's true, Richard.

It is true.

You could sort of, well, is it though?

Yeah, I suppose it is.

It's off.

This map is not to scalp.

First of all, it's very much zoomed in.

Sydney's massive.

OK, that's a massive detour from the M7, let me just say.

But if you want, yeah, for a cheap charge, go for it.

Yeah, Norwiss Business Park, yep.

Yeah, Cig Energy 25 kilowatt DC charger

doesn't work bidirectionally with Tesla.

Apparently, Teslas can do V2G.

That's what Amber told us as well recently.

So confirm that, someone.

All right, let's push on.

Now, this is something shared by one of our viewers.

This is an Amcharge coming to...

Oh, I forgot.

Sorry, so much has happened this week.

Let's see.

Get back to my notes here.

This is in Broadway.

Thanks to Zofo, one of our viewers.

I think he's in the stream right now.

So Amcharge opening in Broadway in the shopping center.

It's good to see Amcharge rolling out charges.

And oh, look, Richard says

Goldwood Supercharger was full this week.

20 stalls.

That's amazing.

20 stalls and full.

That's great.

Thanks Zofo, Broadway shopping center.

Thank you very much.

We're the other Tesla Superchargers are.

Check this out.

So this was spotted by our good friend Roscoe

from Amazing EV, sent this into us.

This is... Anyone guess what this car is?

Before I tell people what this is?

Roscoe asked me, I told him.

And I think you might have seen it

on your channel as well back in the day.

But yeah, we'll confirm it.

Yeah, we'll give you a few seconds there.

Maybe Joy can guess when you're...

What do you reckon?

No, but I think I know where that is.

Where is that?

I think that's the junction up at King's Cross.

I think you're right.

Yeah.

I think so because I know Roscoe is from that area.

So yeah, I think you're right.

It's probably somewhere in the eastern suburbs.

Yeah, we've got some guesses here.

Is it a Volvo?

Yeah, I'm going to say it looks like a Volvo.

Yeah, that's pretty complimentary of that actually.

Denzer?

MG?

I've got the right answer here by the way.

It is a Mazda 6E.

Well done.

Why not?

It is a Mazda.

Because I've always wanted an electric Mazda.

Saw it in Shanghai at the auto shop.

No, but that looked like it was made out of clay.

Yeah, that's true.

That's a clay version.

But this is...

Now, the electric Mazda, the 6E,

is actually in collaboration with DPAL.

So this might look very familiar to you.

This is essentially a DPAL SO7 rebadged as Mazda.

So yeah, I think it would be interesting to see

what the price of this reserve is if it does launch.

Well, I saw another story this week where the Mazda Australia,

the executive is saying that they're still evaluating

and they will figure out once the evaluation period is over.

It's going to the UK.

It's going to a few European markets.

Oh yeah, it was this story about Tung.

That yeah, it's going to, you know, they're still evaluating the car.

I have to say, it looks nicer with all the camo on.

So we've discussed this in the past.

Should we have a camo like wrap, right?

Camo version.

Camo page.

Just to confuse people.

Yeah, look, I don't mind that.

Come on, how cool does that look with the camo?

I don't mind the SO7 look.

So if it looks like that, I'm off for it.

No, I don't want a chance to win.

Now, let's close that box.

Okay.

No, it's just too long.

Inside is too small.

Okay.

That's normal with the Mazda new models.

But hey, hey, hey.

There's lots of all.

Kodo design.

That's what this is about.

This is nothing.

Kodo.

It's not Chinese.

It's got nothing to do with any of that.

It's from the outside.

If anyone's ever interested, have a look at this car.

Just search on YouTube.

I think it's Mazda 6C or something like that.

Mazda's got an official video on this car with the designer.

And he says it's all, I think it's all about the Japanese Kodo design.

That's what this car is.

Never once mentions what's underneath it.

Where's it from?

What's going on?

But it's full Japanese.

So anyway, if it comes, I think it will be a good seller

because at the moment, Mazda does not have any real electric models.

That's right.

Happy to test it out.

See if it drives pretty much the same as the DPEL SO7.

Jason says for joy, it doesn't show any dirt.

Yes.

It's like public transport seats, isn't it?

Sydney buses wrap or bird poop.

Too funny.

More splash shots.

Okay.

So this is from Oliver M, one of our regulars.

Spotted the Skoda ENYAK facelift.

Here it is from the back, three quarter.

He takes some good photos, Oliver.

And some more spy shots looking into the cabin there.

So it looks pretty good for a VW, essentially.

Should be good.

Looks like it looks almost wagon-ish, Riz.

Other SUV.

Slightly people move-er-ish.

Bit of a wonder if it's still on the same platform

as some of the other VW cars with the rear drum brakes.

Oh yeah.

The MEV platform.

Yeah.

It kind of reminds me of your old Subaru Outback.

Oh, I love that car.

Reminds me.

That didn't have full self-driving.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the Skoda ENYAK.

And also spotted the Sweepo Rollin,

Volvo's next flagship ES90, 800-volt architecture,

lots of range, SPA2 platform, two specs for Australia,

single-motor and Roll-and-Spec ultra-single-motor.

Not all drive though.

$107,000.

Is that a seven-seater?

I know.

It'd be five-seater.

It's Volvo's large sedan, you know,

the ICE version is usually called the S90.

So this is the ES90.

And yeah, it's supposed to be pretty luxurious.

So sort of like probably like an Audi A6.

That sort of size of a sedan.

I mean, sedans don't sell too well in Australia.

This, I believe, is a lift-back, like a Model S.

And yeah, you never know, it'd be Volvo quality.

Yeah, hopefully the software's better than the EX90 we had,

which didn't let us drive an autopilot

and cruise control for a while.

But yeah, Volvo's Scandinavian design, they look good.

You know, good trusted brand.

Yeah.

Now, now, Riz, we went to the smart launch,

the global launch of the Smart Hashtag 5.

I'd love to see this, the Smart Hashtag 2.

Could this be a throwback to the Fortus?

Never know.

It's, look, you know, good friend Mark Rainford

was inside China Auto.

He's got the scoop apparently straight from Hangzhou,

saying that, you know, they're potentially developing a city car.

Will it ever come here?

Don't know, we still haven't got the seagull yet.

So yeah, it's happening.

What do you think, Tom and Joy?

Small, tiny smarts once again?

Yeah, I mean, it just lends itself to an EV, right?

The Smart Fort 2.

People, when I tell them that I've driven the Smart Hashtag 2,

a 3, is it 3?

Yeah, Smart Hashtag 3 and 1.

They think immediately of the Fort 2, like, oh, the little one.

So it's already in people's heads,

so why not just give them what they want?

It'd be great for, like, in a city area around Sydney and Melbourne.

I don't think there are enough small cars,

but I think small cars also need to have small prices,

because if it's, like, if it's a small car,

but it's the same price as, like, a family-sized SUV,

people will be like, yeah, but for that price,

you can get a family-sized SUV.

And I know not everybody wants a family-sized SUV,

but I'm pretty sure for the people that want a smaller car,

they would also want a smaller price to go with it,

even if they want it to be more, you know, like, a bit more premium.

Yep, good point.

I mean, like, look at the Hyundai Insta, right?

We loved it.

I actually love that car,

but for $40,000, people were poo-pooing it on our videos.

So it is a question for you and for Joy.

We've got the Smart Hashtag 1 and now 2 and 3 and a 5.

Will China produce a Smart Hashtag 4?

Seems unlikely, right?

Yeah, 4's not a great number in Chinese culture,

just for those who don't know.

Smart Hashtag 8.

Now, that would sell well, right?

Yeah, hopefully with a small price tag.

Yeah, agree, TazEV, affordability is key, 100%.

Okay, and final article for tonight,

just a PSA for BYD owners, seal upgrade.

So check out your seals.

They should be coming in hot, 1.4.1 for software update.

It's just bug fixes looks like.

In fact, it's just a slash, I think.

Feature optimizations and a slash for new features.

So nothing.

Look, I must admit, BYDs don't do their notes very well.

We've seen Geely tell owners updates coming.

We've seen XFANG release lots of notes as well.

BYD, yeah, probably could do a better job, I think.

New features, a forward slash?

Yeah, I know, that's what I was saying.

It just doesn't look great, but that's all right.

At least they get upgrade still.

Well, the previous screen, I did like how it said it was free.

It's good information.

Yeah.

Oh, Jason asked, but has Tesla got a slash upgrade yet?

No, that's right.

This is the first time we've seen a slash upgrade.

That's right.

Yeah, the new BYD website is nice.

Yeah, I guess it's been taken over,

hasn't it, by BYD automotive or BYD HQ?

Cool.

Okay, I know you say hashtag when I read.

Yeah, I think they want us to call it hashtag

for the smarts when we went to the launch, just saying.

Forward slash is key for moving forward.

Okay, cool.

Alrighty.

Zika news from Darryl.

Zika is calling pre-orders.

They will get to book in the test drive in mid-September.

Excellent.

That's not far away.

That's good.

Yeah, should be fun.

All right.

So that is it for tonight, everyone.

And thank you for joining us.

It's been great to have joy on the show.

Thank you very much, Joy.

And thank you also to Moose31.

Thank you for the $5 happy chat.

Happy chat.

What's super chat?

Super chat.

Yeah, all chats are happy.

Thanks for your BYD Seal videos.

It's got a 2025 performance.

Congratulations.

Excellent.

Thank you.

And thank you, Riz, as well.

Thanks for joining us tonight.

Anytime, Tom and Joy.

Good fun.

Always lost to chat about.

Obviously, we discussed quite a lot about the new technology

that's possibly coming.

And yeah, I think it's just,

it's only going to get better from here.

That's the key, right?

It should get better.

I just want to see how much it gets better

and what the uptake is over time.

That'll be very interesting.

Look, a lot of new features in cars always come to the,

you know, the top tier luxury cars first,

and then it filters down to everyone else, right?

So, will FSDB be like that where only a few select brands

get it?

And that sort of goes out to everyone eventually.

So that's for us to comment

and watch over the next few months or years,

which would be very interesting.

I think.

Okay.

Well, thanks very much, everyone.

And thank you, Riz.

We'll see you tomorrow in the secret location,

the location which must not be spoken.

And we'll see you guys all same time next week,

hopefully.

We'll keep you posted.

All right.

Thanks, everyone.

Have a good night and we shall see you then.

Bye.

See you later.

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