{"version":"1.1.0","producer":"fm.getcarcurious","layer":"official","episode":{"title":"Racing for the Girls Watching: Aoife Raftery on Rally, STEM, and Building a Sport Worth Joining","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/racing-for-the-girls-watching-aoife-raftery-on-rally-stem-and-building-a-sport-worth-joining","audioUrl":"https://anchor.fm/s/ece88d4c/podcast/play/123101556/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-21%2F9a1acd36-372d-a8bf-ab6f-bb599836fc8f.m4a","description":"What does it take to go from the roads of Galway to the gravel stages of the American Rally Association — in a sport where women have historically been the exception, not the rule? In this episode of the BeDifferential Podcast, we sit down with Aoife Raftery: Irish rally driver, DirtFish Women in Motorsport Programme driver, Motorsport Ireland Road Safety Ambassador, inaugural Rosemary Smith Award recipient, and one of the most exciting rising forces in global rallying today.Aoife grew up in Galway, made her rallying debut in 2021, and has since competed across Irish, British, and Junior FIA European Rally Championship stages — becoming the first female driver to join the Motorsport Ireland Rally Academy along the way. Her 2024 season included a class win at the Ulster Rally, a podium in the final round of the Junior British Rally Championship, and selection into the top 15 of the FIA Beyond Rally Women's Talent Spotting Programme. Then, in early 2025, she was named one of only two drivers selected globally for DirtFish's inaugural Women in Motorsport Driver Programme — and promptly went to America for the first time, made her four-wheel-drive rally debut at the Olympus Rally, and collected three podiums in four starts, including a third overall in a Rally3.In this conversation, Aoife gets candid about what it actually takes to make peace with the uncertainty of rally driving, how she breaks down the technical craft of pacenotes and left-foot braking for those unfamiliar with what the sport demands day to day, and what it felt like to step into a 4WD car for the very first time at a competitive level. We talk about the difference between European and American stages, what it means to carry the legacy of Rosemary Smith, and how she holds onto pure joy in a sport that can bury it under pressure and expectation. And as a STEM advocate who has spoken to thousands of teenage girls about careers in motorsport, Aoife makes a compelling case for why the next generation of women in racing might come from the engineering lab just as much as the driver's seat.This one is for every girl who was told the race wasn't for her — and every person who believes the sport is stronger when more voices are in it.Be sure to subscribe to our newsletter so you never miss out! https://www.bedifferentialpodcast.com/\n"},"annotations":[{"id":509644,"startTime":425.4,"endTime":441.7,"type":"term","title":"co-driver and driver relationship","url":"/glossary/co-driver-and-driver-relationship","quote":"but that's what makes it so exciting.\n\nAnd that's also what makes the teamwork so important is the co-driver and driver relationship that I can trust what my co-driver is going to call to me.","canonicalId":"term:co-driver-and-driver-relationship","priority":0.55,"confidence":0.75,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"In rallying, the co-driver and driver relationship is the communication link that makes pace notes usable in real time. 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