Antron Brown, a three-time NHRA Top Fuel champion, shares insights on his busy preparations for the upcoming 2024 racing season, including new liveries and partnerships. He reflects on the legacy of Don Schumacher, emphasizing the impact Schumacher had on his career and the sport. The episode also covers exciting upcoming events in drag racing, including an all-star shootout and the AB Motorsports pitside experience. Additionally, the hosts discuss notable moments in automotive history, including the debut of the Dodge Viper and the founding of Saturn.
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When the roar of an engine doubles as a heartbeat, you know you're in for a thrilling ride. Strap in as we catch up with Antron Brown, three-time NHRA Top Fuel champion, gearing up to ignite the 2024 season with insider details on his ABM Accelerate Program, designed to propel novice speedsters to professional pinnacles. Along with new sponsorships and the shifting landscape of NHRA, we also carve out a moment to honor the towering figure of the late Don Schumacher. His zest for life, whether helming a drag racing dynasty or wrestling with the sea's mightiest catches off-shore, left an indelible mark on those fortunate enough to cross his path.
We peel back the curtain on the Gator Nationals, where innovation collides with raw horsepower in an event that's shaking the drag racing world behind the scenes, pairing perfectly with the pulse-pounding suspense of the elite eight qualifiers.
In our feature, 'This Week In Auto History', we look at some automotive evolution, from the birth of the wartime Jeep to the electric hum of contemporary EV concerns. Listen as we navigate the milestones of yesteryear, the Dodge Viper's inception, and the record-shattering original Bullet Mustang sale, all while pondering the future of an industry in flux, brought into stark relief by Cummins Engines' recent brush with environmental regulations.
Buckle up; this is a journey through the annals of automotive history and a peek into its electrified future.
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Our favorite top fuel driver from the NHRA, ladies and gentlemen, antron Brown, is in the house and standing by Conrad has this week in Auto History.
We'll get you caught up on the stories making headlines this week as well.
Howdy, along with Mike out of this World, mars King Conrad DeLong.
We always need more.
Jeff Zekin, I'm Don Armstrong, so glad that you could join us on this chilly Saturday morning.
It's supposed to warm up into the 60s today.
I know it's going to be a bitter one.
However, come Monday, I understand.
Well, let's get right to it, shall we?
Our favorite guy, three time NHRA top fuel champion, mr Antron Brown.
Antron, good to see you, my friend.
How are you?
Doing good.
How about yourselves Well?
we're doing.
Are you as busy as ever?
Yes, like everywhere, we've been working just getting ready for this new 2024 season and everything's just been going good so far.
Man just been all over the place getting things ready, getting all the new liveries together and working on some other projects at the same time, and we've been out there helping out a new partner of ours that we're just helping get out there, sean Reed, out there in Top Fuel also, and then we also have our you know, our ABM, like you know, just working on our development entry level people coming in and that's what it's all about right now.
We've been trying to, from the junior dragsters all the way up until we actually have Anjia, like my old teammate from ProStyle Motorcycle.
She's part of our program, the ABM Accelerate Program.
So we're just trying to grow all these things and we've got so much stuff going on.
There's a lot of excitement around NHA with the new mission foods announcement for our major sponsor of our series.
So there's a lot of buzz going on in our sport right now and man, we're just riding that wave right now just trying to keep everything balanced, but there's no balance, as you know.
Yeah, no, there's never any balance.
So if you talk about new liveries, that means new pain schemes and some new sponsorships for you.
No, like for us.
We actually just new liveries for Mako Tools, our tried and true primary sponsor for the last 16 years.
So we've got some new exciting things that are coming out this year that I can't talk about right now.
I'll try to give you.
I know how y'all are, all you know how we are.
Yeah, exactly.
Hey, before we go any further, I did want to mention the fact that we had a death in the family recently and I know that you were pretty close to Don Schumacher and wanted to get your feelings on that.
And you know that Don's been fighting that fight for a while and it's a sad day in motorsports in general because he bought so much stuff to our sport and without that I wouldn't be where I'm at today and it is plain and simple.
And and he's taught me so many things, not just from the racing standpoint but from the business side of things.
You know what I mean.
And, gracious person, if you ever went fishing with him the best host you can ever go out and just fish, and he really enjoyed that, the deep sea fishing and you thought that he was intense.
We always thought he was intense as a team owner and I can tell this one story about Don Schumacher, because we all thought he, like you know, he will not settle unless you were winning.
If you got second place, if you got runner up, it's like you might as well been qualified at race.
You know what I mean.
That's how intense Don Schumacher was and it was so funny and he never raised his voice, he never got out of character.
He was always cool, calm, collective, but you could just tell his demeanor on what he meant and how serious he was.
You know, and, and when I went out with him deep sea fishing it was, it was intense.
That guy was the first up and going crazy and it was ridiculous.
It was absolutely crazy.
Like he was up at 4 am and we did not finish fishing until 6 pm in the evening and we came in with the biggest fish you ever saw, from tuna to yellowfin tuna, to sailfish, to marlin and, like you know, it's always catch release up for the tuna, the IE tuna.
We flayed around his boat and I mean it was just a really good time.
That's the side of Don that a lot of people didn't get to experience like I did and I was very fortunate and blessed and he's always hold a special place in my heart and he always helped the stairs to be the type of people that we are today not just me but my whole team for Brian Karate, brad Mason, mark Oswald, all the guys that have been around Don and all the crew members know what type of gentleman he was.
Well, I mean that's one of the things that I never met him personally, but I learned a lot about him in the year that I was on the drag racing tour with the valveline team and I know that he was very successful in everything that he touched and he always relied on the best of the best and brought them into the fold.
You're one of them, but, as you mentioned, you're crew chiefs and he always got the best crew chiefs.
He always strived for the very best and he was a very successful guy and a lot of drag racing innovations, the canopy top for one.
He was the one that got that going.
I mean he was at the cutting edge and I know that his electrical business, schumacher Electrical I mean he took that to the top as well.
I mean he didn't settle for second, as you mentioned.
No, no, he did not, and he knew every milk and cranny.
And the thing about his dime was the first one to have to tell you that he wasn't the smartest one out there, which he was still sharp, so so don't get that twisted.
But he always said that, uh, that he just learned how to outwork people, and that resonated with me when I watched him throughout all those years.
And he goes to the Antron.
He goes.
You know what?
You know, some people are smart, some people this.
But the thing about is is that attitude and work ethic will overpower anything every day and there's some truth to that, without a doubt.
Like for us and for me is a.
It's taking a chance, is literally going after what you truly want in life and giving it all you have, and if you just keep working at it, you're going to eventually achieve it.
I mean, he looked at me after I started my own race team and he let I never forget the phone calls as we negotiated back and forth with the sale, the team for me to buy some parts and pieces and everything else, and he ran me through it.
He goes, antron.
This is not another person, this is business, and that's what we did and I've learned a life lesson from him throughout all those years.
And uh, and when we got done, he looked at me and he goes you did very good at negotiating and you very and you were very good at sticking to your word and not deviating from it and you stayed the course.
And he put it to me.
He told me he was going to try me.
He goes, antron, he goes.
I want to show you some stuff because I don't think you should do it, I don't think you could do it.
He told me everything that he think that I couldn't do.
And then he says and he told me that on purpose, to see what I was made of yeah to motivate.
And he didn't think.
Not that he didn't think I couldn't do it, it's just to see if I fold it.
I wasn't ready to do it, and this went on for two years and it was the best school that I could ever want to.
And that's what a mentor does is he makes those around him better by challenging them.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
He said that to every one of us and he knew what button to push on each individual.
He didn't do the same tactic to everybody.
That's what people don't realize that everything doesn't work for them.
Every like.
One thing does not work on every person.
Every person learns and takes different, and for me, I was self-motivated.
Somebody, like you know he never had to come into a trailer my whole career racing with him and told me Antron, what you doing, man, you gotta work, you gotta work more, you gotta do this one.
He never told me that cause he knew how I worked.
Well, he knew my bushing.
He could push on me is when somebody tells me that I can't do something, you tell Antron Brown that he can't do something.
You see what happens and he knew, and he found that out over time and when he figured that out, that's how he knew how to get to his magic, by the way.
I didn't want to mention something that when I found out that Mars had got you on today, I thought you know, I'm gonna go to his website and there is such a cool.
I wouldn't even call it a commercial.
It's like a five minute fun thing to watch that Toyota put together for you.
And what a great video that is my friend.
Oh, you told me I hangover on horse power.
Yes, hangover on horse power.
Oh, my God.
You're not embarrassed by it, are you?
No, it was just.
It's one of those deals and it's kind of a spiff off of, like you know, the hangover.
Yeah.
So we're going to hangover on horsepower and we're just showcasing a brand new Tundra's coming out with the V6, you know, with the twin turbo on it, and then also having the IMAX, which is the electric motor that enhance it for the towing capacity, for the power and torque to take off and for fuel to make it feel economical, basically the hybrid.
And I got to drive that pickup truck for the first time and I'm like man, this thing was fast and I was on the drag ship and I mashed the gas puddle down man and I was like this thing's like standing still and the funniest part of it, it was actually standing still.
I was actually peeling the rubber off the racetrack, spinning the tires.
And.
I never forget.
Like the Jeff Foster track guy, he manages to track it back as he goes.
Antron, you are tearing up a racetrack.
I was taking the rubber off the track.
It was rubber track all over the place.
I'm taking the rubber off the track.
It was hilarious.
I'm like I'm so sorry.
And I'm like AB, you can't hit it Because normally you get in a pickup truck, you just hit it and he goes.
Well, it's watts down, it takes off because it weighs so much.
You know what I mean.
And man, I was like this up, like it was a top fuel pickup truck.
I was like well, this thing's got some ponies to it, so it was pretty cool.
But what do we got to look forward to for the first race?
What's, what's?
What can you tell us?
Well, the cool part is that we have a like I don't know if you know, but we have a race coming up before we start.
We have a race like kind of an all star race shootout race in Bradingson, florida, called the.
It's the pro present, I mean I brought to you by Skag, presented to you by uh, uh, actually, the horsepower garage over there, to Jay G guys from the horsepower garage Like uh, basically it's a shootout where you're writing the best of the best, imitational only 250 grand to win.
Oh, wow, and it is going to be something very, very, very, very serious.
Now, this is a brand new thing.
Yes, this brand new is put on by our pro organization, basically like our union for all of our professional race teams in HRA, and basically we're, we're, we're teaming up where we're doing some different things that we normally don't do at a typical in HRA drag race, just to bring some excitement and entry to the Gainesville race to the Gator Nationals, which is literally like two weeks after that.
You get what I mean.
So, basically, this is a deal is going to be on flow, a streaming platform where you're able to see, and cyber pit see, things that you never got to see before, and uh, and that's what's going to make it special.
And then, uh, the coolest part about it is is that it's going to be a format where it's going to be over 12 of our best of the best race teams, invitational only.
That's coming from top fuel, from funny car to pro stock car.
You're going to have the baddest of the baddest.
And then we're going to have some sportsman categories there, you know, like from from different classes in super comp, like comp, super comp and some different classes like that, and we're bringing the best of the best invitation only.
And then a crazy part is on Saturday we qualify one run Thursday night.
Friday, we have three qualifying runs throughout the day.
Bam, bam bam, and then we're going to race the eight, the elite eight on Saturday and whoever doesn't make the field.
So we're actually going to do a little mixed hangover is going to be funny car against tracks or for the ones that don't make the field.
Oh cool.
How fun is that going to be?
Oh, it's going to be.
It's going to be crazy.
And and the coolest part is kind of like the baseball theme.
You know you always have baseball where you always have like the kind of all star we deal to start before you start your season to get everybody excited and see what's coming.
This is what we're doing because basically, we're going to be testing there, uh, tuesday, wednesday and all day Thursday, make one run Thursday night and three qualifying runs on Friday.
So you want to see the best of the best, where these cars and teams get to prepare for this, to actually go out there and hit it hard.
So it's going to make it busy, it's going to make a busy.
Friday.
And Sean, have you ever driven a funny car?
I have not a one one up, but uh, that is definitely on my bucket list it is definitely on my because.
I mean, clearly I never have.
But I understand that there's a huge difference with that short wheelbase on a funny car than it is on a dragster.
Yes, it is.
It, for surely is uh is a different type of driving, but for myself I always been intrigued by it because I love all the racing classes and I always have a car like the only vehicle I really haven't raced yet.
I did sort of a pro mod car with the radial stuff.
We went to a snow birds up last year.
Yeah.
Uh, I want to do a pro mod, I want to do a pro stock car.
And Erica will let you get in her car and run it down the track.
We definitely need to do that because I want to do that and I also want to do a funny car, without a doubt, funny car, definitely not Make me a caps Hopefully, maybe it will get together and do a spin off one year when we're testing and do some social media behind it and film it where we swap rides.
Well, you're Toyota teammates too, so that shouldn't be too difficult to coordinate.
And we're and we're like the same size, so so it would be perfect mix and match and we're Toyota teammates and, uh, I think it'd be really, really cool.
Well, I guess one of the reasons that I asked the question is because I read something yesterday that there is rumored that Ray Evernham is going to bring back the I rock race.
And do you remember those races, uh, circle track races, where they had the matched Camaro's and drivers, drivers from different, different racing groups, msa, formula one, indy car, all of that.
They all got out there and it's all basically matched with driving skill in cars that they've never even been in before.
That was a few years ago.
They did that before.
It was a long time ago.
But hopefully equal cars, but right and all I can, the reason I ask you is because that triggered that thought.
I'm thinking now wouldn't that be cool if they had a series of drag cars of some sort, whether it be pro stock I don't know about top fuel or or funny car, because that may be a little bit too much for a pro stock person.
That's not really, you know but a set of cars that are equally matched and get out there and race your buddies.
Absolutely, absolutely, I think that would be, I think the.
Antron Brown series.
I think that would be a good.
It has a ring to it.
I think we need to make some cars like that man, and I think it'll be cool where you put it on there and then we don't even put a name on them where you could get all the drivers from all the different makes and models throughout our sport and race and we could even make it like a super fast, like bracket racing cars, exactly, yeah, and then get everybody from all walks into our sport and invite, like the people from NASCAR, people from F1, people from yes, right.
Sprint cars and do the same thing, because you always, you always bring all the talents in circle track or the road racing.
Let's bring them to the drag strip, yeah.
I think that really, really cool, and let them work a Christmas tree for the first time and see what that reaction time is.
Absolutely.
Hey, we're gonna know if you're gonna be on time to get your lunch or Is gonna get some scooby snacks.
Antron, I don't know if you can see this, but behind me We've got a walley yeah we got a wall behind us.
The emmons brothers presented us with the wally that they won and we were really thrilled to get that presented to us.
So we we're we covet our walley back here.
That is awesome.
That is awesome.
Yeah, so are you going to be doing the AB motorsports pitside experience again this year?
Oh, absolutely Absolutely, we have that's, that's a must, a staple point that we have.
We bring all of our guests in and partners and where they get the experience right by the race car and that's what really helps, it makes our racing program go is having that type of experience.
Without it, we, we want to have what we have, you know, all of our macro distributors as their home base.
That's how they bring their customers out and they build those relationships and also what our fvp, in fact the motor parts partner, where they bring out all their customers and and all their distributors and People of that nature.
And the same thing with hangstifers and Toyota, like everybody that we're a part of.
They're really part of that program in our fdc fire department, coffee people man and uh, we get everybody free coffee and uh, we wake them up with that freshness that medium.
So we wake up a little piece of me.
And if I remember last time you said that your wife was uh kind of one of the coordinators of that on for your team.
Is that correct?
still this year, yes, yes, like uh, that that's is all in the family and uh, that's that's my wife.
She hits that realm and she, uh have implemented and got a lot of people that's with her, helping her with all that stuff, and she's been doing this, has not stopped.
I've been doing a great job.
Last year it's like we got thrown to the fire and it was a lot and, uh, we was able to manage, maintain and, uh, we just have a lot of people that are chipping in giving us a great hand, but my wife puts countless hours in it each and every day.
We'll end the shot at home on the laptop Trying to finagle it, make it happen, and, uh, it was pretty cool to see her grow through that this year.
Well, we're looking forward to that invite to do the in wheel time car talk show.
Uh, from pitside at the antron brown, uh, uh uh, top fuel dragster thing on a saturday, uh, wherever, wherever you want us to be.
Oh, we got you covered.
We got a corner laid out for you.
You guys come in and the thing about it is we have Chef Kevin in there.
We got him, chef Kev.
He throws down and he's a brilliant chef and we have a really good time out there.
And where else is a better spot to be?
You get to come out and see 12,000 horsepower race cars.
You get to sit right alongside of them in the pitside experience and see the crew guys strip them down, put them back together in less than 40 minutes, fire it up, get the cap right next to you, get the smell of nitro, get the tear in your eye and then have a chef prepare a meal.
And we get to come in there and have a lot of fun with different games and giveaways and stuff I'm packing now.
Antron, it's great to talk to you, my friend.
We sure appreciate you taking the time on a Saturday to talk to us and, best of luck, will you follow in y'all season long.
Maybe we can catch up with you at some summer break sometime.
Absolutely Well.
I appreciate you fellas very, very much.
Thank you all so much.
Thank you, antron.
Brown.
NHRA Top Fuel Champion.
Ok time now on the In Real Time Car Talk Show for Conrad's this Week in Auto History.
Well, in this week.
In 1942, ford earned a Jeep contract.
So the blueprints for the American Bantam vehicle, the original Jeep that was being built by Willis, was also being built by Ford.
And Ford built over 300,000 Ford Jeeps for the World War II effort.
I didn't realize they built that many, and when you look at how many they built and the amount of money that they were contracted for, they built each of them for about $975 each.
Wow, pretty amazing.
In 1958, toyota and Datsun came to the United States.
In 1958, nissan and Toyota showcased their cars for the first time at the Los Angeles Auto Show.
While some Datsuns and Nissan vehicles brought to the United States that were at the same name, most of them were given different names as they came into the United States.
Ray Lemke opened the first US Datsun dealership in 1958 in San Diego, and the first Datsuns to hit the American shores were a 48-horsepower engine with a four-speed column shifter.
Now I've driven a three-speed column shift but never a four-speed.
And then in 1985, saturn was founded, a new division by General Motors, which has since gone away.
It's a Viper, oh, okay.
In 1989, the Dodge Viper concept debuts.
After only a year of development, the non-running prototype Viper made its first appearance at the North American International Show and it received enthusiastic response and then it ended up making it into production.
It cost them about $70 million to put that car into production and then, after that, would have been the introduction of let's see next picture yeah, the introduction of Saturn in 1985.
Saturn, as a separate brand within General Motors, had a unique style.
Their advertising was they were a different kind of car company and they were the ones that kind of introduced the one-price car, the original cars at Saturn.
There really wasn't any negotiation this was the price, this is what you paid.
And that lasted for most of Saturn's life, but not all of it.
Towards the end, they did start discounting the cars.
And then in 2006, at the North American International Auto Show, the Dodge Challenger concept debuted.
It's a command, yeah.
But a lot of other things in that same year were first introduced the Camaro was introduced to the public, the Pontiac Solstice, the FJ Cruiser were all introduced to the public, but the big one was the Challenger concept.
That stole the spotlight.
And again, the Challenger ended up being one of the production cars that came out of that 2006 North American International Auto Show.
And then finally, in 2020,.
The Bullet Mustang sells at the Meekum Auto Auction.
The Meekum Auto Auction for what was it?
$3.7
million for that Mustang, and that was one of the two cars that were used in the movie that was the one that they found in Mexico.
Right, it was all beat up and wore out.
And there were two of them, but this is the one that they found.
And then the final thing that showed was the picture of the Lamborghini Miura concept car, but it never came to fruition.
Okay, thank you.
Profitability and supply chain issues for electric vehicles worry automotive leaders, according to KPMG and it's 2024 global automotive executive survey.
The survey released Tuesday found that you ready.
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Chinese control in a relatively unfamiliar supply chain environment are driving executive concerns.
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He said, saying Did you hear about Cummins engines?
No tell me more okay.
Truck engine supplier Cummins agreed to a record-setting fine in a two billion Billion-dollar settlement of a lawsuit filed on Wednesday by the US Justice Department and California, charging the company with installing devices designed to cheat emissions control sound familiar.
Under the settlement, which is subject to court approval, the 1.675
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Justice Department said in its largest ever civil penalty for a clean air act Violation, cummins will also spend more than 325 million to remedy the excess emissions, including 175 million to California to reduce excess nitrogen oxide, and will fund replacement high emitting diesel locomotive engines.
The lawsuit said Cummins allegedly installed so-called defeat devices to bypass or disable emissions controls, such as emission sensors and onboard computers.
The lawsuit said Cummins used defeat devices for 630,000 2013 to 2019 ram, 25 hundred and 35 hundred pickup truck engines to cheat emissions control requirements.
That's where all those old Volkswagen engineers went to work.
Yeah, they got fired from Volkswagen.
Oh my gosh.
Well that's, that's huge.
Anyway, shame on them.
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