Ranger Raptors, S13's, Blade's, Euro's and Affinities

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What's up? And online with Mr. Edwards, I

was going to say Edwards the Bunting, but now it's just Edward John Bunting. How are you guys?

What's happening? Hello Matthew.

Hello, alum. 'S full name.

Now we just need his mother's maiden name, his, you know, date of birth and, you know, we doing all kinds of credit card fraud.

Was made before he give his date of birth.

Would that be? Would that be so great?

I'm not. Too worried about my date of

birth. I'm.

I'm comfortable with my age. So you should be you.

You're you're handsome. Looking 20 year old.

Ed. Like when I when I met you.

I obviously I've got how old you are exactly.

But I did not peg you as the age you were.

I pegged you as maybe a few years older than us.

Yeah, correct. Same likewise.

Yeah, yeah, it's. Just into their 30s, I think

that's pretty odd, that. Yeah, yeah.

When we start talking cars, and I'm like, yeah, I drove one of those when they were new and people kind of look and like, hang on, how, how fucking old are you?

You know, it's like, Oh yeah, I remember the launch of that.

It's like, hang on, how how do you remember the launch of that car? Quite old.

I am quite old. It is true.

Well, look, you know that I'm putting let's.

Be I'm OK with it. I'm OK with it.

Have you embraced it? Is that what you're trying to

say? Yeah.

No, it's funny when not to hijack the entire podcasts on my age but we when I turned 30, like 6 months before, that's when I had the the sort of oht. God, what am I doing with my

life crisis. And I think I've talked to quite

a few people nudging 30 and they all say the similar thing.

They're like 3030 thirty. But then since then you get over

that speed hump of 30 and then you're like, oh whatever.

By 40 you're like, hey, this is me, I don't care.

And and then it's just every year plus then is well, hey, I'm still here. So it's, you know, keep rolling.

You know, you either you either have a birthday or you don't.

And if you don't, you're dead. So it's like, well, you want

that birthday, you know, you you wanna keep that ticking over like a like it's a bit of a badge of honour.

With a car you get 100 thousand, 2300 thousand.

It's it becomes a little game. Well, hang on, how long can we

go here? How long could I push this

thing? Yeah.

So let's just be honest, you are a very good looking 21 year old.

Thank you, Senator. 85,000 You had a good service history,

dealership service history as well.

Yeah, full factory, factory servicing, I often like.

And as to the human body, like I'll say to people, you know, what does the human body like? It likes good stuff going into

it and that gives the best performance.

Same with the car. You know, put the right fuel in

it. Put good fuel in it.

You know change the oil when you meant to like like good.

And and I often liken the cooling system in the oil system to like you know dehydration or the water in our body and and blood like the oil pump is like the the heart you know and you've got good regular oil changes or whatever and and you know you want a bit of exercise often not just like dormant and then exercise you know, then run a marathon.

Cars are the same. They like regular exercise to

keep everything you know working and what have you very similar.

What's your favourite guy? You like your maintenance?

You gotta maintain your diesel. Jeff to Kent Bergsma of Mercedes

Source in the US, who is a character and if anyone, if anyone out there likes old Benzes, recommend getting on to that YouTube and watching Kent's videos.

They're quite amusing and he's very passionate about.

Them. He's actually the best.

Like, I really, really like. I think it's cool, yeah.

But yeah, I would say you were mined from the factory, from the dealership, so, so your your, your body is in good nick.

Yeah. Well, how else would you

describe them in terms of a car? I'm not sports card.

I never much cared for sports. You know, I'd paint it as a UM

semi luxury sedan. Hmm.

W201A. Big daggy.

I'm a bit daggy. W2 once on a date car but it's a

you know it's it's it's actually.

Quite a good topic. We should just freeze that and

go next. When we got more people on next

time, let's do a topic. That's what.

If you were a car, what would you be?

It's like a you do it with dogs. Like, oh, if you're a dog you'd

be a corgi or this do it. Let's do it with cars and you.

Will have like an honest what would you be?

Come up with one for everyone in the group and then and then the the the best vote gets it sort of thing, you know?

I like that. I think that's that's that's,

yeah that's next week's quality, quality listening on.

That is, that is a good topic. If you're a car, what would you

be in as a human? Yeah.

I like well let's let's lock that in for next week bunting anyway besides besides you know talking about you've been you being mined and everything how are you going you're you're you're well the side of the. World.

Yes, well, it's been quite busy on the car front.

I have sold my little good echo that I had in stock.

That was a a lovely easy sale to a my friend's brother in law.

He just happened to message me my friend and said hey what have you got? They just need a good cheap car.

He's written off his Mazda 3 and I said well I've got this echo he goes, Yep perfect. He drives 4 cases to work him

back and just wanted a little cheap runner and that is the perfect car for that so. It didn't end up as an Uber Eats

car, which is good. No, it hasn't.

Ended up as an Ubereats car is good because it was a lovely little one. Owner, you know, very clean 124

thousand K Echo. So he picked that up last night.

That is gone. I had word back that the Saab

looks pretty good, so we think that'll be roadworthy without any repairs. So I'll know officially,

probably Thursday when the actual rowdy guy looks at it.

It's just my mechanic that's cast his eyes over that the Honda Civic is still. I actually stole it back today

cause I needed something to drive to work.

So I went down to the mechanic who hadn't touched it yet and said, hey, I'm taking that back for the day.

Oh, I was going to start it today.

I was like bullshit. No you weren't so don't lie to

me anyway so I'll drop that back to him tomorrow morning and he can continue on with not doing anything on it And yeah that's a about the some of the Cowboys. I what did we do?

I came with a we had a little drive which no doubt you will talk about. We went down to Julock weekend

and only five of us I think. But because I didn't have

anything in town really that was worthy of such a journey, I ended up bunking in with David in his sons Honda Accord, Euro, which has some very good points and some that's a good point.

But that was a nice pleasurable drive in the Euro.

By and large. I can talk about their

character. Let's talk about that car for a

minute. So 303,000 K Gen one Euro 04

very early car black on cream leather luxury model positives of that car mechanically amazingly good.

You know like smooth silky transmission shifts like it should you know 303 K and the thing the thing feels new mechanically. It really doesn't doesn't sort

of flare or jerk or run roughly you know it's running really nicely So that that's always impressive on those early Accord EUR everything seems to work you know windows cruise illuminated Speedo needles air cons cold you know like OK and he's I know he's replaced it pressure and done a few things to it over the years but but it's it's nice getting in a car of that age though that mileage and everything works.

You know it's not a not a basket case full of broken buttons so that's good. Still looks pretty good.

It's got some aftermarket mags on it which are eighteens which are a little lower and you know meaner than they should be from the factory. So the ride is not as sublime as

as originally intended, but other than that, yeah, it's still a nice car. They're they're cracking guy.

I remember the one. I had an element in that car as

well that that you were. It was it was a cracking guy.

He was comfortable reliable. You know that was the one in a

car when I bought that and I always wanted another.

I'm like that's that's a cracking.

Daily it was solid Japanese comfort.

Yeah. Yeah, a friend of mine, a family

friend of mines. Got a a black on charcoal

standard model. Not the luxury one.

So no leather, no sunroof, etcetera.

He's bought new full Honda book and he's he's going to be selling that in the next month or so and he wants to get somewhere around you know 5 1/2 ish I think for that which would be a great car for someone if you know anyone after after one.

Yeah 182 K on it. So not not insane KS and he said

I didn't intend to keep it this long but it just he said every time I drove it it was just such a great car and you know he said I've kept it way way longer than I ever thought I would because it was just so good and and what are you replace it with.

So yeah, he's he's a fan. Is it a manual or is that a?

That's an auto. So it's an auto standard car.

Black on black on charcoal, Yeah, just standard one, but that's a No 7. So little bit, little bit later,

yes it's. Available much in Manuel's apart

from like your ass or whatever, Yeah.

Yeah, no, they did. They did quite a few.

Friend of mine actually. That guy just mentioned some.

He's got one too, and I helped him by that years ago.

It's a silver manual and he's kept that way longer than he normally does too, because he was such a good car.

Still is. I think that's only that's only

just clocked like 150K or something.

It's pretty reasonable. For me, that Coles Peak Honda

like there was a real it was great.

And it shows in second hand values of them like people are still asking for a real cracker sort of up towards 10 and they sort of hold around that 78910 for for a really good one.

Absolutely. You could do a lot worse than a

euro. For future Classic, in terms of

like a future club complete car in probably five years time, that'd be that'd be something to look into I reckon.

And five are they club playable in five years?

Well, 2004, yeah, we will be. Holy Guacamole.

Sorry. Yeah, crazy.

So I think that'll be, that'll be a cracker.

Yes. So I don't, yeah, I don't have

any more real car news other than those tidbits.

Oh, got really nothing on the books.

The SDI came to the Geelong Dr Day and you know, it did the things and stuff. I think it's like 14,000

something days, you know, nails become.

One of the 1414K. Sorry. 14,000, is that what you

said? Yeah, yeah.

Well, not just a 14,000, so. There's about two 2020 twenty.

It's a 2020, but yeah, model 21, so I think it's becoming one of the lower kegs examples now in the in the insurance I'm not happy about because Real Sky should be using the car more.

The MX5 is still with my brother in law.

It is is there clocked over 2 weeks that is called up the mechanics to get you know, new suspension and it's not like a car that's got complicated suspension or like airbags or anything. It's just a WR X of the yeah,

everything else is just a pretty standard.

Well, I've got one more bit of carnies.

Absolutely. Bunting hills.

Here's some advice for people. I have a Pajero, as you know

tyres on the Kumon's, they've been there recently.

They've started being noisy, so yeah, they they're not.

There's plenty of chunks still left on them but they're just, you know, they're droning a bit and apparently it's a bit of a thing. They get old and you know that

happens. So rather than buy new tyres for

twelve 1300 bucks for a a set, I found a set on marketplace that an ex, someone ripped him off a brand new highlights.

So Rangers, Hiluxes, things of that ilk that are quite popular.

People will often pull off the standard all terrain tyres that are, you know, pretty Rd oriented and put on chunky muds or you know, Mickey Thompsons or whatever.

Yeah, so they'll keep running on the road with those tyres making massive noise and getting poor fuel.

Economy. Exactly.

But the original tyres get pulled off and then they want to get rid of them. They wanna get some money for

them and they're way cheaper than if you buy brand new eyes.

So I found a set of those, Yokohama's offer high Lux and I just thought I'd love to go nuts and put an off road tyre on that car, but I just don't do enough off roading, you know, it mainly spends its time on road or towing the caravan.

So it's like, well, let's just be sensible.

And so before our drive on Sunday, I went out to country and picked those up and I yeah, looking forward to putting them on and hopefully having a quieter ride and a grippier ride. So can't talk?

Talk to you? Keep an eye out on your gum

trees and Facebook marketplaces, sheep tyres from ranges and hiluxes for your car because people straight away sell them in. Like these tyres are brand new.

Said it doesn't many times So. Yep, and it's sort of unique to

the four wheel drive world really, because no one generally pulls tyres, brand new tyres off passenger car.

It's far more likely to happen on a on an enthusiast sort of for wheel drive. Unless your name is Rob.

Guy who drove his car home in his brand new Mustang home.

Changed the wheels the same thing.

Well. That's that that I can still get

behind because people do buy brand new cars and then they also get a brand new set of wheels that are different and you'll usually keep those old wheels and old tyres at least.

Together, Correct. And keep it there, yeah.

So that I can understand the whole like ripping the tyre off specifically just to put on something else, something that's arguably worse for the car. Unless the cars immediately

going to the Bush seems a little dumb.

But you know, I don't think anyone's ever accused the Full Drive group of individuals to be smart.

Come find me. Come find me people.

Shout out to you to robbies on his he's on his bike trip around Vietnam currently, so shout out to you man.

We'll see when you get back. Stay safer up.

Maddie, what about you? What's car news with you?

Me I've just been driving the laser heaps which has been great. I did take it in for a wheel

alignment and the front sway bar or anti roll bar links are getting a bit how you going? So I'm going to order a new set

of those and back them on. I probably do them in the

driveway and they're not Subaru parts do in terms of everything else. I've gotta go get the MR2

service. But I was like I might as well

do that once I once I pull the motor out to to reseal it all because it's the remains leaking really badly.

So I thought I just get it done in a little bit.

Once I get the scamp back, which is pretty much done now, I was just going to go pick it up, I think essentially.

So that's been a labour of love but we're almost there with that Karl and I think that's pretty much it on my end.

Gentlemen movie on gentlemen. So anyway, I'm not.

I wanted to discuss a few things now we were gonna discuss obviously classic not Japan 2.0 which was which was which

happened on Sunday. But after that we're gonna

discuss about affinities now affinities with with cars and cars and cars that we've that we've had, that we've had.

So we'll get to that in a little bit, but we'll talk about Classic not Japan. So the day started meeting up at

Tango in Newport for a for a for a beverage of a coffee.

This in in around 10:00 I rocked up.

I brought the typhoon which is not Japanese but anyway that there was another story to get a chance to go home and get and get my car. Edward rocked up in the Pyro but

but. But the beautiful of tyres.

Tyres Scotty wrapped up in the blade.

Alan worked up in the STI. David obviously and his sons are

called Euro and my brother looked up in a new car which which which was surprising but we'll get we'll cover that in in in in a moment because he's always buying something new but the day went to so we we get a coffee then we then we would offer a bit of good shirt then off we went we drove down the strand or in in in Willy and then went down to Geelong and went looked at looking at vintage like the Geelong vintage market there and then went down to the waterfront for a for a

lunch and Bev and it was it was a lovely day it was actually a g'day to catch up with you guys and see all the cars out and just have it just a day where we just it's like a car day and and that was that was really really fun so wanted to get your highlights gentleman problems out there with the camera shooting he was he was doing quite well with with with his new toy and. It's actually the first time

I've been to Geelong, not as a, you know, way to get to lawn or something else. Like you've never been to do.

Nah, just do. We never really went down that

way. I think even as kids a lot of

times we'd probably go down the East side like towards the Ferntree Gully in your your Scoresby's and what not to have that little market in Scoresby, didn't they think so yeah, something like that. Like I never really recall going

down the West End. So this was my first time.

Yeah. And it was, it was a place, it

was fine. I definitely really did enjoy

going to that second hand shop. It was very large and it didn't

have the slimy feel of a Cash Converters or all the shop next to Cash Converters are Glenroy, which I'm not hating on.

But like you know if you want to get like cashmere with slimier, that's like that's the place, that's the place you go.

This is very much a nice like those those cool things.

There is no bother in that sort of thing.

This is just, these are, you know, use items, preloved items.

You find something you like, the price tags on it, you pay it, that's it. And there's some cool, cool

things there. There's also like just VE or

mega lights, tail lights, but you know, I guess it's a shop for everything, so you can't really hate it.

There's a lot of cool cars and little car pieces and whatnot.

Solo experience. So first look, Delong and we

went down to the waterfront obviously for for lunch.

How was the STI? It was it.

Was it good to get it out for a change?

Or yeah, yeah. It's like again, because my

brother has stolen my other car for a little while, I have been driving the STL little bit more and it's, it's one of those things of like because I don't drive it so often, it almost needs getting used to again. Yeah, as you get into it.

And so like you know, having these last few days to do that, it was nice. I still maintain.

I think having owned this cardinality for like 3 or 4 years, the WRX is actually probably a better car owners daily. OK, over the SDR?

Yeah, just because the the WRX, you can basically Fang it and you'll be fine and kind of you can do that on the road more or less. Whereas the STR doesn't come

into itself until you really do go.

So it's like 10 tents and when you're doing that and you're doing it on the road, you know, you gotta be careful.

With bloody heart. Yeah, you gotta drive and then

it becomes very, very rewarding. But it's just how often you get

the chance to drive that hard. If you're being a sensible human

being, of course. That's like what's coming with

all like I think Castle last five to 10 years they're just so capable it's just and and all these journals are you know it's the steering's got a bit it it it doesn't matter they just so capable it is. The driver is a limit.

I'd say 90% of the time. 100%, yeah.

And so it was something like with a little bit less power, but maybe a little easier. Something like WRX is probably

something that you can use in a daily capacity and store.

Yeah, more usable, definitely. Edward, you went along in the,

as you said in the yes, but you also had a driver of the blade.

I did, I did. I snuck a little blip just

towards the end in Scotties New Blade which of though of course for the listeners is a Toyota Corolla basically with a nice specification level and a big fat Orion style V6 under the bonnet. Interesting car it it felt

really good very easy to drive. You know it's not a I was saying

to David and Scotty I think in all you guys on the day it's a lot of modern sports car or hot hatches are are pissy little turbo engines you know and DSG boxes and they go bear the bear the bear and you've gotta ring there next to you know they're working hard. In the other words where is that

that lazy big 3 1/2 litre V6 in a Corolla sized car is not working hard. It's it's just easy linear

smooth luxurious power. Yeah you can flip the flappy

paddle things if you want to but other than that it's just a a nice cruisy Dr the steering was really light and the whole thing which is comfy better seats than a standard Corolla.

You know it's got nice bolstering on the leather seats and heated seats and so really it's we're talking about and saying for the money they're worth you know this is sub 20 grand car to have that sort of power and smoothness and a few nice options in in a good size that's very usable very packable. I think it's, I think it's a

pretty good value. So I'm like, yeah, I like it.

It's as I said, it's not a sports car.

You know you're not you're not zipping along going, wow, this is so sporty. I'm more felt.

This is really nice and luxurious.

It's a It's a very comfortable cruiser.

As I said, like you close your eyes and feel like you're in Orient in that. Car Yeah, you really, you really

do. But no one really needs the big

fat bonnet and the big fat boot of an Orion or the width of it.

So it's just, it's just one or two people.

It's basically an an Orion shrunk in the wash, yeah.

Pretty much, yeah. There was also one more person

in car. There it was Chad.

Chad was there with his with his Silvia S13, which I had to drive of. That was fun.

I was. I was.

I We swapped cars. He drove the Typhoon to to to

launch from from the from the the what's it called, the vintage market. And as I'm driving out, this car

got so much attention. These kids are there at the

exit, there was like, do a drift, do a burning out, like everywhere. And I was like, oh, geez, here

we go. And then David's like, there was

a person there taking photos or filming.

You were driving into town. People just like seeing what is

this like this guy with his stick it up you know pretty much race car which is which is kind of funny but yeah that that was actually quite good job That's the first time I've ever actually driven a a chassis car before I've driven driven a she's I've driven a few other Japanese you know sports cars but never never actually driven a silver yarn it yeah it was cool it was it was fun it was interesting.

I I I didn't really notice on the dashboard on those but they got like these role events so like with your steering wheels to keep your hands cool and warm you can just roll them back And then there's like there's vents there and it's kind of got like little little LED lights for your warning lights and stuff on the dashboard which which is super like really weird in 80s.

And then I kind of thought that was cool.

It rode really well despite being on like completely slammed and on on you know sticky sticky rubber and Koilos it it did drive drove like 90% of the time when I'm not going over speed up your driving really really well. So so that was, that was a

really, really cool experience. I wanted to thank Chad now on

the show. That's why I mentioned earlier

see that that was, that was fun. So it was just a really click

mix of cars to be fair. I mean we're driving out of the

out of the car park. I'm like, Jesus, an STI.

There's Sylvia, there's called Euro, there's a blade and it was just weird, weird and wonderful cars.

And you know I mean that's what the community is really about really like embracing the well for the most part embracing the embracing the uniqueness of of of the difference, the difference in cars. So overall good day it was.

It was a fun experience going down to the waterfront.

We had we had lunch there at the up there was at the Yacht Club.

The the Yacht Club. Yes.

Yeah, the Yacht Club. Yes, we did.

That was very nice actually. The only thing I reckon we could

use is more cars like that. Probably would just empty.

I remember the amount. Was it his men, Arthur?

No, obviously. I think that's the one I was

thinking about, Martha. Some reason, yes.

But Arthur said we had, you know, 2 Civic type bars, two MX fires here with the MR2 for a bit.

We had, you know, an F6 that was making 600 something kilowatts, which nearly ran out of fuel after filling up.

You know, it was a, it was a, it was Scotty and the Liberty, I think. Yeah, Yeah.

So. And then there was David Day in

the Cosmo. Cosmo, yes.

The Cosmo was like a crazy variety of cars, which, you know, more cars are better in my opinion.

Like it's just especially when you make a little convoy, you know, some weird and wacky things.

There's no gatekeeping about. You can only bring this, we call

it classic, much meant for reason and you bring anything and everything and the more variety is better.

Absolutely. Agree.

My my brother didn't come for the drive but he hooked up with his with his son for the coffee in the morning and and he ahd bring the 60 bring the 63 is like yeah I'll bring it and then as soon as I see him turn around the corner he's driving a brand new Ranger Uptown and I'm just like oh geez here we go.

But she chose a good colour. To be fair, I'm honest.

Blue. That car.

It is a nice blue. It's actually it's a it's a lot

of car like it's you know Fox Racing shocks that you can jump them and stuff and then he was telling me like I think it causes a coffee there the Ford brought out there they're they're they're they're really range erupted like the one that they used for the for the Baja 1000 or whatever it was and and basically it was all standard underpinnings like standard suspension and everything. Well the only thing they did was

put a cage in it and strip it out and it won its class I believe and and did did very well.

So very capable truck and that's a that's a V6 twin turbo petrol, the 292 kilos like they make a lot of power. 2 not 2 kilowatt.

That's like a lot of power, so. Yeah that's right.

It it's insane power cause I think he said that as I was standing, you know, and I was like what?

Yeah. You know, Alcantara instead of

orange highlights on the seats and it's nicely done.

You know, I'm not a I'm not a dual cab Ute buyer, but it's you know for a sporty kind of trady express it, it's not cheap.

I mean it's 100K with you, but it's but it's nicely finished.

Yeah, it's it's better than I thought it would be.

I saw one in person in that that kind of blood red, orange colour did they come in And I was like why didn't you buy one of those And he's like he's like Oh no, I'd I'd rather the blue to match to match my F6 so. Nice.

It's a It's a really nice colour.

It is a nice colour. I'm glad you got a colour.

I think that's because too many people get like the charcoal grey or the white white. Black.

Yeah, so, so, so that was pretty cool and got the SEAL team drawing that he reckons it's really quick.

And he also said to me you have to run, you don't have to run him in because because he has Ford and Ford was like, no, these engines are running. So which?

Which is which? Surprising it was.

Like I mean I've heard that from Newcomen factors before, but you know that's some sales guy telling you that I would still you know be relatively nice to it for the first few 1000.

Yeah, and like you said, so I've given it a given it a hit and he's like, it's quick, but he's like, I'm not gonna kill it.

So, so these petrol engines, Yeah, yeah, it's I guess it's an odd choice for what is I mean based and originally sold as you know a commercial vehicle, you know like utility car, but it's obviously not a utility car, it's it's one of them, you know, suburban trucks you see at High Point, you know somewhere on Chapel Street. In the area.

Just look, I mean, more power to the man.

He's not hustling anymore, stealing anyone's way doing it.

But it's like, you know, it, it does, It's been, it's been the the situation for a lot of these cars.

I mean for the last what, 1012 years at least.

I started with the territories, you know, and then everyone else just getting bigger and bigger cars without really necessarily needing Elise. With Luca he can't justify he's

like I am a tradie so. Indeed, I do use the trade.

Yeah, sometimes. But yeah, it's it's still, you

know you can't take away the fact that that is a fun car.

I'm sure you know getting getting 290 kilowatts in 500 and something I think close to 600 metres talk, it's it's gonna, it's gonna let you have some fun.

And considering that people are buying the, you know, the Rams and everything else with the VTS like this is certainly still better. At least place in a parking

parking space. So yeah, I think a bit more

usable. Colin Ram in terms of that,

Yeah, yeah. So that was pretty cool to see

that. And then he drove evident

proceeded to sound like trash. Because Alexander, but then but

yeah so so we did we did the drive you know had a we all had a beer and and just just had a had a general chat about, you know about cars mainly. About cars, funnily enough,

Matthew. I know you don't say.

Yeah, we weren't talking about tax reform or, you know, climate change. The crisis in Gaza or anything

like that. On that.

Yeah, we're mainly talking about W2O ones and.

On which you can do that next episode, I guess.

Yeah, What was that? What was that?

One Chance, just bought a 201 so that that took up a little bit of air time, you know, picking apart, yeah, what that car is.

Yeah, he's got, he's got, he's got, he's got real he's really excited for that car. He wants to he wants to paint it

and get it all ready for to drive.

But I'll talk to him when he when he gets back on the show next week. But yeah, that was, that was a

good day All in all. And yeah, we finished up by

about 2:30 and your home by 3:30 and you know it was it was a was a nice. It was a nice.

Early dinner, early to bed. I know it was, it was great.

It was a really quick cracker day.

So just wanted to thank you guys for coming on the trip.

And yeah, well, let's do it again.

Anymore. Let's do plenty more.

Absolutely. Moving on to tonight's main

topic though is Affinities. Now we all have Affinities and

despite what people say don't have Affinities cards buy anything that we everyone's got affinity to to something and you know in particular like for example you alum you you you had a affinity for Subaru and you and you brought me X STI so and you kept that you know that affinity Affinity strong also you people gonna finish for cars that they've they've had for a very long time or in the family and Edward you you've had your you've had your your your the minis been in your family since new I believe right you're the mini you.

Can't has, Yes, yes. So in 1966 my grandmother bought

that car and it was a demo model, so it wasn't brand spanking. It had done 600 miles when she

got it, it was and it was about a month old.

So it had done, it was registered in, registered in mid October 66 and she picked it up mid November 66.

So four weeks on the road it had done 600 miles, which is what 1000 K's in today's metric money.

So someone, yeah, someone drove it, you know a reasonable amount that first month. I don't know if it was, if it

was someone you know the deal of principle, or if it was on a test like 58 test drives, Who knows Would.

Would you say was executive driven as, as, as?

I mean, maybe it was executive driven, that that information will never be known. But yeah, ironically, it was the

only car she ever owned. You know, it was back from the

era when you didn't just trade something in because there was a newer, flashier thing. It was sort of this, Well, I

mean I'm sure some people did but certainly my grandparents mentality was of that Oh well, it's not broken that we paid good money for that and you just sort of keep it and look after it, you know that. But it sort of went for a lot of

things like things around the house, the car that you know you didn't just move house you wanted a bigger house sort of thing you it's like, well there's nothing wrong with this one. You know we just make 2.

So it's it's that kind of mentality that, and I really resonate with that. I do like it and I think that

there's there was far less wastage back then because people were a little more, you know, well, I suppose they weren't doing it for environmental reasons necessarily, said he inadvertently. They were.

So it was more expensive. You know, things, things cost

money and you know, you had to save up for it.

And maybe it was just going to the wartime of, well, hang on things, things are scarce and materials in the world are scarce and you just recycle and you kind of reuse and you make too. So yes, that car's been around

for a long time. And the scariest, scariest part

of that is that I have now had that longer than my grandmother had it, which it makes me feel really old getting back to the little age topic from the start. Because you're 21.

She had that from 66 to about 94.

I took that over 1994. What's that?

What's 1966994? There's 20 something years. 28

years. 28 years she had that. And what's 9094 to now?

Is that 28 years? 30 years now.

Yes, that's 30. So I've had it longer than she

had it. And as a kid growing up with

that car, I mean, I first rode in that car when when I was probably 18 months old. And then I've I I, you know, I

knew it my whole life, obviously.

And it just seemed like an eternity that she had that car.

And now that I've had it longer, I think, my God, what I feel guilty for not using it enough, probably.

And everything went up with that And then like, how did you end up with that? Oht It was just so.

I'm one of three kids, you know the oldest of three.

And obviously I I was just the car nut and my my only other cousin on the other side of the family, you know, was not interested in cars and she was quite a bit younger than me.

So because I always washed it and I and I obsessed about it and I talked about it and you know I used to love riding in it and it was just sort of always a thing that well you know that that'll probably go to Ed you know because he he's just he he just you know I I just love that car there was you know I and I think let's pretend for a second she didn't have that.

I think would I have gravitated towards minis anyway.

Yes, I can categorically support.

I would because I like the compactness of them.

I like the handling of them. I thought they were great cute

looking cars but they had this sort of undertone of performance because they went round corners well because being the front drive and very checkable and all those good mini qualities.

So I think I would have gravitated towards Minis, but I I really gravitated towards minis because of of that car.

So the affinity started very, very young anyway.

And it was, I remember at some point my parents and my grandmother were talking about her will and you know, Data Dar and I think it was the solicitor.

You know, something came up about the car and the solicitor said to my grandmother, if you don't specify it, it'll just go into the estate and sort of goes into general whoever, the executives or whatever. So fortunately for me, they

decided to specify and they said, you know, the cargo goes toward, so now I got it before my grandmother passed away, you know, I got it in 1994 cause she stopped driving by then.

And so I took it over and had it painted and you know, I did a few little repairs to it and things.

But it's, it's pretty much like it was, you know, I really haven't haven't touched it or done anything silly to it.

It's it. I just painted it.

So my grandmother saw it painted, you know, she she saw it when I had it done and was like, oh, it looks beautiful.

Oh my God, you know, So she got to see that, which I'm glad about. And yeah, it's just it's just

been maintained and driven ever since.

So there's a long history with that car.

So yeah, that started a good, a good affinity.

So an affinity with British, British Leyland like with the.

British cars in general, I think.

So. My my first car, wasn't that my

first car when I was 14 in year 8, But I bought a Morris Minor with a friend of mine. So I was always about British

cars when I was young because to me they were, they had character, you know, they were. They had nice smiley faces and

cute little headlights. And I like the old vinyl and the

wood grain and the Jags. And you know, I was, you know,

growing up in the 80s, I sort of was.

The British cars were where my my eyes always went.

I did like Mercs, you know, and German cars as well, of course, Porsches and Mercs and things I liked.

But the British cars were quite cheap, you know, relatively.

So I think it was their care. And and I remember my uncle

telling me, you know, when I was 14 or 15 wanting to buy a first car to tinker with me, he said get a Japanese car, the bolts will come off when you want them to just go the Japanese, go Japanese. And I just wasn't interested in

Japanese. I thought they were boring and I

thought they were sort of a bit ugly.

A lot of them. They didn't excite me in the way

that a cool old British car did now move on.

And though that affinity, my affinity for Japanese cars has obviously grown a lot stronger. And it's far more nostalgic now

because those cars when I was a kid that were everywhere are now quite collectible. So things like Gen 1 Civics or

the the funky little Honda City that I've got, I always like them. I wasn't, I didn't like them.

But I I've got that Bond has grown stronger over the last decade or two, definitely. Yeah, and is that how you got

into, like for example, how you got like you always wanted to moke it was because it was an English, you know?

The Mike I had a set of Weetbix cards, you know, I think it was you know with with cars of the world sort of thing.

And there was one that had a mini on it and was one that had a mock on it and I used to just laugh staring at the Moke one and and it was a very to me it was a very easy leap to make from loving minis to loving mokes because it's like, well hang on, here's a mini with no roof.

Here's a mini that looks like a little army Jeep like thesis Cool. So yeah I always always always

love minis and mikes and Morris miners and you know all all that British stuff. MG SI.

I couldn't believe it when I first bought my MG and I remember unclipping the soft top.

This is an MG Midget so this is a a late 60s same as an Austin Healey Sprite. But you know you unclick the

soft top and that feeling of watching the the sky as the the fell back behind my head and just going Oh my God, I have my very own convertible. That was as a 20 year old when I

bought that. I thought that pretty king shit,

yeah, people were just laughed at me.

But I I loved it. I loved.

It so would you say your affinity with cars's strongest towards English cars still or would you say would you say?

No, no, I wouldn't say it is. I'd say it's I still have a love

of English cars, but I'd say my affinity has changed far more into nostalgic Japanese. OK and into well there's there's

a big wrench car affinity that I have too with my old Renaults in German you know it depends is like the best there's I have I have underlying the British cars are are great and characterful but they're often shit you know they break and they.

Look good. You know, I make no bones about

that. I'm not one eyed about it.

The Benzes, you know, the golden era of Benzes from 6078, sixty 70s and 80s. They always impressed me because

of their build quality and their solidity.

And they were just, they were, they were a different machine or British car completely. So they were offering a bit

stayed or boring or conservative to some people, but once you've lived with one and you appreciate how they're screwed together, an 80s Benz or a 70s Bends is a special thing.

Absolutely. It's so the practical part of my

brain loves the BENDS because you can put 400,000 K on it and it still shuts the door like near you.

You can't do that in the British car, so.

I mean, to be fair, you can't do that in in a new Benz either, so. Exactly, exactly.

That's why I say Golden era have been so, so these affinities.

But as we've said before this podcast, they all come from influencers. You know, like I watched

Hannibal Lecter the other night, that wonderful film Silence of the Lambs, you know, and there's a scene.

I don't know if you guys have seen that.

It's a great classic film. If you haven't, you gotta see

it. But there's a wonderful scene

where he's talking to Jodie Foster and and he's, they're trying to catch this murderer. And Joe, you know, he says, what

does he do? What does he do?

This man you seek. And and Jodie Foster says, well,

he murders women, Sir, you know, and he's like, no, that is incidental. And and he digs deeper and

deeper and deeper and he says he covets.

You know, that's his nature. He covets.

And what is it to covet you? You don't.

You don't just dream up things to cover it, he says.

You dream up things to cover it. No, you covered what you see

everyday. If you've never seen a Mercedes

Benz SLK and you loved SLK's, you don't dream up an SLK in your head. You have to see it in a magazine

or in your friend's driveway or, you know, wherever, somewhere it has to come from somewhere. And it's the same with these

affinities. These affinities to me come from

a neighbour having one, a parent having a certain car, seeing it in a magazine, watching it on top, the blah blah blah blah blah. A teacher at school rocking up

and going well. I mean it makes 5 classic

example. My Year 7 coordinator had a

bright red brand new Mazda MX5 and me being the car kid, I was in his office everyday talking cars because he loved cars.

So I would, I would talk about, you know, why did you sell your Peugeot 205 GDI and what were you looking at at the time.

And and then you got this 7X5 and I was just like that is perfect. The shape, mechanical package,

everything about it was just to me perfect.

I thought one day I got, I got to have one of those.

So these affinities, you know, we covet what we see.

If you grow up with a family of all Holdens, you're probably gonna have a very big nostalgia. Towards probably a bogan.

And you probably like, so you affinities with British cars for cars for the reason of family and and yeah yeah and.

Family, you know? Yeah, probably.

That Mini kicked off the British car.

The German cars because of the solidity and the.

Yes, but our neighbour might the the people who are friends who live next door to my grandparents who had the Mini, they always had a Merc. And so I rode in these mercs.

I saw these mercs and again they kept the same car for years and years and years. It wasn't like they chopped and

changed. But I just, you know, from a

young age was exposed to that, you know, and I think that started it. And then you learn, oh, they're

actually great cars under, I remember one day sort of mastering all the models because Mercedes Benz, if you said, oh, tell me what Mercedes Benz models are between 1960 and 1990, my God, Like that's a that's a confusing topic, like a 280 point 230.4 or 230.6 at 2:30 or 300D and E280 and E220.

What are these things mean? You know it seems to have no

rhyme or reason. Once you get your head around

that, the whole sort of Mercedes puzzle makes sense.

So yeah, I had an affinity from from from being a little bit exposed to the odd Bens as a kid through these friends.

Came came later because your appreciation.

Japanese one came later. Yeah, definitely came later, I

guess. Japanese car.

Related like like from the MX5? Like, you know, actually that's

a really cool car and. And from Yeah, I, you know,

yeah, I think that was probably a big part of it.

And then I I like I said I have this practical undertone.

So because they just work, you know, I like that about it.

And there were some pretty cool Japanese cars like the cities and the Civics. And you know, I really all, I

always liked Hondas that are stylish and and well made.

So I always had an affinity for Honda, but I didn't own one early on. You know, that was later that

that happened. But then you discover that whole

world of, wow, they're really reliable cars and Honda owners are very loyal for a very good reason.

So yeah, there's a there's an affinity for Japanese cars, definitely. And the French, the French one

again. You know, why do I have two

Renault Sixteens in my in my collection?

Because our family friends had one and I was just like, what is this thing, you know? It was so different to my

parents, Ford and Nissan van. Like.

They rock up in this, this burgundy Renault 16, and I'm like, it's got a column gear change, it's got a hatchback.

What, what? What is this?

Put it just look cool and wacky and it was a strange world to me that that was so intriguing as a kid and so that's obviously followed me. You know the affinity for that.

But then like anything you go down the rabbit hole, you learn about them go oh, they've got an amazing ride and One Wheels Car of the year in 65 and they're one of the most versatile interiors of their time because you can fold the seats in a billion different ways. And you know when you sort of

learn about this stuff. I never had an affinity for

Italian cars. I didn't know anyone who had

Italian cars. We know they rust a lot and can

be notoriously unreliable, but can be very beautiful and amazing to drive. But I've never had an affinity

for them, I know. And if I was given bucket loads

of money, I wouldn't buy Italian, you know, probably for that reason. Whereas if you'd grown up in a

family or your uncle had an alpha or you know, you would have a much stronger bond with that, I think.

So, so do you guys think that like you know families and and people around you that have those cars build those at builders affinities or is it or is it just kind of like what you kind of fall into if that makes sense?

I think family definitely has a lot to do with it.

Also one of my favourite Youtubers always says geography is destiny, OK? And basically where you are at

certain points of your life definitely make some massive impact. This is kind of a side note.

I was just considering how lucky we are to kind of live in Australia or more or less, you know, Western country, kind of a lot of the cars that we would see in the media in the more attainable range, they're also we can actually just buy them like, you know, having an STI, being a great kid that grew up with Gran Turismo and what not, being able to actually own one of those. I'm fortunate enough to live in

one of the countries that sells them and they're actually available for reasonable price. We could be in Singapore or

somewhere in the you know East Asia and stuff that you just you're not going to get them unless you really, you know either insanely wealthy or you're you know you're able to import them when they're used and kind of a little more decrepit. Like there's always a way if

you're really willing to like there's like a WRX club of Uganda or I think you know so it's all the way.

But it's it's it's it's hard it's definitely where you are where you kind of grow up has a huge impact on it.

And I think starting out for me, like in India not a lot of people own cars at least in the village life.

But had a company car came with the company driver that was a different thing. Whereas when we moved to New

Zealand, it was central. Central exactly.

There wasn't really a manufacturing market, anything that was probably coming from Australia.

So the government's more than happy for people to just import stuff and where else to do import stuff from than the other, you know, right hand driving stuff is Japan.

So we got, you know, like Skylines and Civics and everything else. So the earlier cars we had, we

had the Civic waggons, shuttle waggons, my dad called it and then my uncle had like a red red Civic sedan.

It was like the Civic and the Civic.

So what do you want? Pick your poison.

You've got your choice, specific or.

Civic. That's it.

What a great voice. That's a very solid choice.

Either way, you can't go wrong. Can't go wrong.

And you know moving to moving to Australia, Dad, the first thing he was in Sydney at the time was that was a great Sydney card didn't pan out as well once he was in the open streets in Melbourne. But you've seen this Sydney City

car, you know, it was a great time and just holding on to that kind of Japanese mindset, reliability, that's all we had during our foundational time of owning cars.

It became if you want something reliable, you want some cheap, get Japanese. So the next car was like an 80s

Corolla, I think, yeah. And when we moved to Canada, we

also sold that car, came back from Canada and immediately bought a Mazda 323. So you know Japanese again that

got in an accident when border Suzuki and what was that after that dad would have bought the Camry the 1990 Camry and it was my foray into like becoming a young man on his red piece who wanted to prove a point of sorts was I want, I want something real drive you know and I want to be able to do some burnouts which I never really did, some drifting some draftings and that's why I went for the the Falcon.

My idea was actually to get a supra na.

Supra was my ideal car as AP played a car.

It would have been the dumbest idea but it was what I wanted.

But, you know, I had some sensible individuals in my family who stood against it. Yeah.

So I got the next close. I'm like, I need an attainable

real drive. And that was that was where the

Falcon came in. And that's the the only

Australian kind of car we've owned.

And those because I wanted to experiment.

I wanted to break away from the mould, you know as a rebellious teenager and all that jazz. But so much was just you need to

come get a Japanese car any anyone that would you know, move from overseas that we knew it was get something Japanese um that's just kind of been again like starting off with that geography being our destiny is just that's what we found and that's what we loved. And now it's just a, if I

consider a car, it's like, yeah, I want something Japanese.

Like I now thought of maybe getting something a little more luxurious and one of the things that are strongly in my mind is a Toyota century. Just, you know, there there are

definitely. Given that a good one would cost

me close to 40, I could definitely get something European in a similar age bracket and similar use kilometre bracket with the V12, none of the V12 but with the V8, definitely. And that's that's the thing like

why am I gravitating towards the Japanese?

It's just probably because I've got that affinity.

It's this is kind of the thing. How did you end up with the

Subaru was like 6 or so because you know you're after S15.

Remember that. Yes.

And then you went to cause there I'm having this chat with you once and Julian's place you're like, I wanna buy this 15 and then you work with WX was like wait, what?

Again, Gran Turismo, early days. One of one of the cars I do

remember fondly was the GCHWX and that was the cool thing.

And then growing up in early 2000 Australia, I remember a Devereux Kopka pulling up somebody and that was again just that cool influence. Sometimes it's just takes one

moment. Then my uncle having the liberty

sorry legacy in New Zealand because as Jeff Import would the Twin Turbo that definitely had an influence.

But the the 15, I think it could have gone either way, is probably an insurance issue. With the 15, I definitely wasn't

35 at the time and you know you're not 35.

So you know having BS 15 now, which would be worth a decent chunk but without any insurance, would be a tough, tough ask.

And the W RX like it, it was a blah blah at first.

I was looking at guys there a bit cheaper.

The BLOB, I was the one that seemed to fit the price.

And importantly, I think because you know, being the brown man in the brown family, it's a family commitment as well.

My dad saw the photo of the car. He's like, this is actually

nice. Let's go check it out and that's

what caused that. We literally drove to the place

checked out the carton board on the day.

It's just yeah again it's it's gotta I guess having the stars aligned in a way as well. Like it was a family decision my

mom wasn't too happy about it but she never too happy about buying a car but you know it was it was getting a a parents approval as well and yeah the the Super fit the bill for that and yeah it's it's been so well that you know my brother will appreciates it he's using it and I've got the STI like it's something that's written with us like in the future if we do consider a car for my mum it might be one of the Subarus like something that she can enjoyably.

Dr You've got that reliability you got all the driving though we're not we're not the toughest conditions in this country but it's it's something nice to have.

Yeah. Grippy in the wet.

Yeah, the the only European thing I can say we've had is that the truck, the man, the MSN, yeah.

We're not. Where am I informed They German

or Scandinavian or something? Oh, they were German.

Great question. I thought it was German too.

Yes. They aren't one of those

conglomerates, aren't they? Yeah.

We'll get back to you on that. What about your affinities,

Matthew? I mean obviously you've got,

you've got the laser which came from sort of your first car, but you've also got a Ford, you've got a bit of an Australian affinity. Yeah, I mean I do, but I've

always had a small, small car feeling and and I think that was because, well, both, both my mum, my mum's brothers are mechanics. Well two of the two of the three

are and and two of them I believe one of them worked for Ford and um you know what was was always like oh you know portable cupboard but he but Uncle Mark he was always into small performance so he had a he had a Mark two escort 2 door 2 litre Pinto with a with a hot Cam and an exhaust and Jelly beans on it and it was tough and he he still records as the best Curry ever had and and he's like I.

Said. You see that I think is a key

that car lot like did you did you know know of it obviously and liked. It I knew of it and I saw photos

of it and got to see it in particular because he sold it for a for a for a for a V8 Ford but would you but you regretted doing but he was always like I used to give the the big V8 boys a run for their money. I always used to beat him

because it was a quicker car wait nothing and handled better and and it and it went harder and I was like oh that's so cool. He's like I got to have the

thing sitting on 8000 RPM all day everyday and it just be just loving it yeah and this is a car from like you know from the 70s you know this is not exactly it wasn't a new car back then and and and then that got me into into lazy because I was like Oh well if it's small four what are they got they got lasers and and I really liked the Capris because one of the kid that they were new XR twos and Capri sprints and and Clubsport Capris and all that. So I was actually a bit of a fan

of those, which is a bit of a story but not a lot of people know. But but I was, I was a big fan

of those. I was like Turbo and I didn't

know what Turbo Manager is like a like a four or five year old and I was like oh supposed to be better.

So see I was always it's like small forwards and and mum Mum in the beginning she gotta pay laser and I thought that was I thought that was so cool and and but but we all we also have like a big force to be like a like a like an XF Fairmont which which which was great and yeah it got stolen and I was devastated but we also had Geminis like like that had a Gemini and that was and I came home from the hospital and I thought the Gemini was so cool was green and probably probably one of the reasons why I love green is my favourite colour was because of

that car and that's given me an affinity for for green things you know So for you know for Yoshi the character always play him cause he's green and you know even my Fiesta I bought which which which was green but I think the real laser affinity came from just just how reliable and dependable they were and fun to drive and they had TX threes and want to learn about 3 turbos and learn a lot about 3 turbo 4 drives it's like oh this is this is the coolest car ever adjustable height suspension and all that stuff So it excited me you know we never we never had

we never had a tax return or anything.

But you know I used to draw. I used to draw the moms laser

what takes your body kit And and I thought it was I thought it was thought it was cool. But then I got my first laser

and and then I got my S2, which I still have.

I've had that for 14 years at CNN.

So it's been you know I've always liked small cars cause they're they're they're fun to drive.

They're easy to park. And I guess that's kind of what

brought life unity on with small cars but also Japanese cars because my laser was it's it's built in Japan.

It's a it's it's as you guys know it's a Mazda 323.

So got me into Mazdas and then I got into RX sevens and I got into all sorts of stuff like that that I was really interested in it I would never be able to afford but kind of like really Japanese cars and cameras and stuff which would be like how do you like a camera. Well back when I was in high

school my the the basics. Camry, which which the family's

car was I used to. Yeah.

Like kicking the kicking the Falcons and Commodores of their time which was which was quite fun in in Mexico obviously you know so so yeah I I like that but I also like the the I also like 4 like the sedans like Falcons and stuff because you know every every Arab and their dad had one you know if it wasn't that it was a it was a camera but it wasn't it was a Mercedes. You know though the three cards

you have, you have a Falcon, a Camry or or if you made it you had a Merc. And there's also the occasional

Magna rolling around. There was a certain group of

kids that would go home and they light blue Magna.

Yeah. So I I I like the Falcons

because you know there were you know they were grew up with them but what really got me into it like really into him was was when they brought out the X6 Turbo and because it was like Japanese turbo charged performance in a big you know Falcon sized car and I was like oh you know I can be friends with both the Aussie car guys and the Japanese car guys because I'm in between now. So so then you know that's got

that got my affinity with with the typhoon and and and you know we're still still own that and but yeah like I always like minis as a kid and seeing the the Italian Job you know like the original one was I was like oh that's such a cool car can fit in anywhere and I said to us all gonna get a small car and you know that's why aspire had the laser and now I've got a you know I've got an M360 scamp and and a Fiesta Rusty because I really like I would like how small and.

It almost a mini, aren't they? They're very mini esque.

They are. They are very nice but they're

smaller than mini which is which is quite cool And then the last one Japanese cars I was obsessed with the Toyota MR2 because I just think it's the one of the coolest looking cars ever made.

It's it's just it the angles and it's it's been designed with a ruler It's just for me it was just you know peak kind of interesting sports car and and and initially for a GE engines and stuff so like that kind of got me into it.

So yeah, I grew up in these because I, you know, I I grew up with you know with people driving certain cars.

But also I grew a respect for for, you know for those guys I grew. So expect for you're right,

besides from the from from the 80s because you know every, you know Arabic church had one. And basically that that's like

almost Mercedes Benz #1 #1 best car in the world.

And yeah, like, you know loved 124.

I thought I would just a classy looking colour.

He had 124. You were you were somebody.

And mom's mom's old boss used to have a a C124 and she used to drive at home sometimes and the seat belt will come out.

I was like, Oh my God, that's cool.

Yeah, yeah. So it was it was a 300 380 coupe

and it was a gold one with a with tan interior and don't know what the what the exact code was for that but that was that was cool so so that kind of really grew my affinity with Max So that's kind of how I got to to to where I am I I obviously Gran Turismo like you were saying like I got to play with all different cars like you know all the different makes and models and got to explore like oh that's so cool.

And this is this is awesome as well you know like Subarus because of that you know. And yeah it's it's funny how

like you get kind of put in with a certain group because you have a certain car. But that's that's not

necessarily the case when when there's so many influences around you and I think I think influences are you know can help change a person can help change a person's perception on anything really really strongly. So so yeah it's interesting to

see that the I guess the main influence that we all had with you know a family choices you know with cars that they owned along with with your parents and Edward you know with your family you don't mean Merck and your your mom your grandmother having having them you know. So yeah, it's it's just it's

actually a really, really cool, cool way of thinking of like.

My dad never had a Merc back in the day.

That was later. That was later, OK.

Because you're not our neighbours had the Merck or my grandmother's neighbour get the milk.

But no, it was only dad has had a couple of merks later on.

But it that's purely my influence, you know.

So it's like it's like he would never have gone out and bought himself, you know. It was sort of like me nagging

like get this, get this, get this, these are amazing, dude.

Like, I went into full sales mode pretty hard, you know?

And yeah, I campaigned. I should run for American

president, you know, like a campaigner.

Must say that's pretty slimy gun salesman on your own family.

Yeah. Once the car salesman always

costs. I wanted to make bad for so many

years. And yeah, because I couldn't buy

one. I was a kid.

But the next best thing, well, we'll get my parents to buy one, you know? How do we?

How do I achieve that? Anyway, so, so you so you

weren't going focus on your family and you're.

Like, yeah, yeah, totally, totally.

I was, you know, and not just make.

There were there are numerous cars over the years that I thought that that would be a good idea.

And so I would. Yeah.

Being the car guy, I would. I would campaign very hard for

certain things to happen in the car world.

Yeah. Didn't often get my way anyway.

But there were a couple of Benzes through the years.

Yes. Well, surprisingly become a four

person because your dad and mom had plenty of forward so zephyrs. Yeah, Dad had failed 334 words.

I can think of 123, yeah. Yeah, he was sort of a Ford guy.

And I mean, I have a nostalgia towards those guys.

Like if I saw one of those exactly the same at a car show, I'd be keen to look at it. But I don't want to own it.

And I didn't think that build quality was amazing.

And yeah, I I did. It didn't.

It didn't It didn't get its hooks in to me as much as the cutesy Mini did or or other stuff.

Yeah, absolutely. I think 2 models, You know like

these influences can come from real life cars, but like you say it can come from a movie or a or a grand Turismo choice or someone gives you a model car or something as a kid and you play with it and you get to know all its lines and then of course the big ones enticing after that. So you know it can it can come

from any of those sources too. I know one of my first Matchbox

cars was a BMW 850I. Yeah, We've never owned one of

those yet. I haven't I and I and like I've

spoken about it a few times in the show.

I've always loved the look of those.

I think there are timeless car. I think there.

I think they're beautiful car actually to be fair.

But I I'd never because it's terrifying.

But I remember the doors used open and then when I saw it in person and sat in one and got two of them and he said he's for years and he's got both a 50s and like just just everything so nice and hearing it starts sounds like a bloody jet plane turning on and. Yeah.

I was like this is second he's like he's like Matt don't do do me a favour don't ever buy one because it's just that there are there are you know mechanical nightmare.

But I just I've every time I see what I've kind of fall in love with them again like I'd love to own one but I wouldn't love to one because I I know I'd be I'd be broke and have to sell everything to keep it. Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah like there's also

there's also I think it's called dream affinities like I've got a funny with that car not being MW but that car in particular you know and I'd love to have to to to to just to to to drive one and then to own one but you know again that's that's like a that's a that's a dream if you need because I grew up with you right. Like little toy that matchbox

and and then they would ever since seeing one I was like that's yeah it's just it's interesting to see how you guys get your findings. Jeremy is the top of the quiz.

Talking about infinities are. I'm gonna vote to veto the quiz

for tonight cause only two competitors.

OK, OK. Alright, gonna minute.

No, I don't think it's going to be fair.

I need a couple of. People.

Why not? Why not?

I just don't think it will be fair.

I'm just, I'm just saying. According to the question that I

think you do very well with. That I don't know.

I feel like Ed says Ed first, then thinks about the question.

Alright. You know what?

I'm back in there from challenge.

This is my Marty McFly. I'm course you say chicken.

No one. Chicken.

That's why nobody calls me chicken.

Uh, Ron Allen. Let's go.

We are doing the Queen. We are doing so.

This is the Cartel Carquest 10 questions.

Someone ask questions Question one who makes the new BZ 4X Ed Ed Subaru incorrect BZ 4. I hesitated.

MG. MG is incorrect.

It's Toyota. What OHS?

Bonus question, Why is this so important to Toyota?

Ed Edd First All electric car. It is the first all electric

car. Well done.

Damn it. I thought you would have got

that one because it's been all over the news.

Alright, question 2, which extremely rare Aussie V8 coupe has been recently up for sale? Well, Alan, I'm Manar.

Incorrect. Is it a Falcon?

Incorrect. It's a force, Marana.

Leyland P-76. Ohk OK.

Question three, what other Aussie car brand had the word force in their models? Hello See.

Colour. Grand could be an American

company, but Ocalan? Some kind of valiance?

Incorrect. Is it a?

Is it a OHS? Is it forward?

I'll give you a .5 Edward. It's four performance vehicles.

Ohhhhh. Ohhhhh yeah. 4-6 or four side,

yeah. Yeah, that's the bonus.

That's the bonus point I give you.

I'll give you the the what? Yeah, the bonus question was

what are they are the four, six and four Say question four what brands new Ute has been teased this week Ohm.

Ohm it's Kia. Kia is correct, yes, with the

Tasman youth, which is apparently the name of it.

But we'll save. Wow.

OK, well check 2.5 element one. Plenty of time to go question

528 years ago, 2 Formula One drivers had their cars stolen during during a race when they were racing.

What brand of cars were they? These are the Formula One.

You like their private. Cars.

Yeah, they actually own their actual private cars.

I suppose it's a good indication that they weren't using it at the time, isn't it, If you're on the TV racing?

Alan Alan Renner, Drivers. In.

Were the cars Ferraris? They were Ferraris.

No, you don't get to. OK, Never mind.

They were Ferraris. They actually found one of them,

I think yesterday or the day before 28 years later in in the someones Hell yeah. Gilbert is a Ferrari.

Question 16 Ferrari. What new and current car on sale

have they purchased another testing at Maranello?

It's not the car you think it might be from that way.

Quite repeat that. So if we're staying with

Ferrari, what new and current car have they purchased for a different car companies car and I'm testing it at Maranello and it's not a it's not a performance, it's not a like a let's just say a hyper or super cars as you would expect.

They've purchased a W. BMW is incorrect amount.

OK. Think about what's extremely

fast and extremely, extremely ridiculous.

Ohm, Ohm. A Tesla half right, Tesla model

less? That's gets you played

absolutely correct. Yeah they've they've been

testing where those, I don't know why for I would want to do that but sure they're they're they want to say how is this car accelerating so quick. Because it's electrics.

Because electrics work, which is something that the Italians still haven't mastered. Question is 7 In what year did

Rover leave Australia? Head.

Head OHS. 1994. Incorrect. 1988. 2005 they had

the Roberson. Later.

Yeah, I thought that later. Alright question Ace, how many

series of the Holden Commodore came with factory turbocharged engines? Ed.

Edd. 1. Incorrect.

What did it say? 1.

Factory turbocharged. Engines.

So you're probably thinking of the old Turbo.

That's what I was thinking. Alarm.

Alarm. 22 is absolutely correct on the What was the other one?

They they weren't Commodores anymore, but they like to think.

They were the letter ZB in senior they.

Had turbos in those? Yes.

Damn. Score Check 3 and 3.5.

Oh. How long you get some points

here, man? I told you get some points.

Question 9. Lexus made the elephant, as we

all know and love, but they only made a certain amount of spiders, which is the convertible version.

How many did they make closest to get the chocolates?

How many alphas were there all up?

About 500. It was 87. 87, says Alan.

I was going to say 80. Who?

Alyssa. We're happy to stay with 87.

Yeah, that's fine. They made two.

So I'm the closest. And is surprisingly.

That is bullshit. But because we're so, because

we're so far off, I'll give you .5.

How did that set up? I don't know.

I'm closest too. You said closest too.

Alright, alright, alright, I'll give you that one.

There we. Go change the rules now, LFA

boy. Question #10 How many models are

currently on sale in Honda's lineup?

Ed. Edd. 4.

Is incorrect. So the Civic type are regular

Civic. Martin, we've got the HRV, I

think. Yeah, probably CRV.

Something else. I want to say 5 the six. 86.

You can't. You can't change it now.

It is 6. You were so close.

So they have got the Civic, the Civic type RZV, the HIV, the CV and the Accord self from the Accord.

Accord. Yeah, say there.

Is are you treat Civic type R? Civic is two different models.

They classify it on their website as two separate ones.

Alright, yeah, OK, OK. Realistically that when you look

at them. Later.

Yeah, they're pretty. They're completely different.

Cause the most part school check, not disgrace.

You did very well, my friend. Three.

And tonight's Goodnight Edward on 4.5.

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