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01:46
Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 Podcast
01:50
with Matt and Tommy.
01:53
We weren't planning on doing this one until next year.
01:57
And then apparently the YouTube algorithm went,
02:00
hey everybody, do you wanna watch this?
02:02
And the amount of comments we got requesting
02:06
for us to react to this were a hell of a lot.
02:09
So Tommy, as much as I can kind of feel what's coming,
02:14
I'm still looking forward to this.
02:18
I know some people will laugh at us, and fair enough.
02:22
And yes, we'll joke about how much a lot of this is wrong,
02:26
but I'm actually really excited to look back at this
02:30
and kind of give reasons to the logic,
02:33
explain why these decisions were made.
02:37
And I think it's actually gonna be a really fascinating
02:39
podcast to see just how much F1 has changed in three years.
02:43
Like under three years, if there's logic to this,
02:48
and yet it's all over the place.
02:50
Sometimes, sometimes.
02:51
Let's not try and defend ourselves just yet.
02:55
Oh no, it's terrible.
02:57
But F1 has changed a lot since 2023.
02:59
I think that's the key thing here.
03:03
Right, so the way we're gonna do this is
03:05
we are of course going to reflect on these predictions
03:07
that we made, was it the start of 2023
03:09
or the end of 2023?
03:10
It was, so we'd had two races basically.
03:13
Okay, so we knew a little bit about what was gonna happen
03:15
in 2023, but there was a break, wasn't there?
03:18
And then we were like, let's make this video.
03:20
So what we're gonna do, we're gonna have a points system.
03:22
Of course we are, we're gonna gamify this.
03:24
So essentially how it's gonna work
03:26
is we will get one point if the driver
03:28
that we predicted is on the grid.
03:31
Doesn't matter if they're on the wrong team.
03:33
Two points if we've nailed it,
03:34
and it's the correct driver on the grid
03:37
and at the correct team.
03:38
Very simple rules and obviously zero points
03:40
if they're not on the grid.
03:42
So yeah, April 2023 is when we made these predictions.
03:45
Doesn't feel that long ago,
03:46
but my God, watching back that podcast,
03:49
I felt like I was a fetus back then
03:51
with everything that was, you know,
03:53
where we've come to now with how our like setups look
03:56
and our microphones and stuff.
03:58
It feels like we've recorded it on a tin can.
04:01
It does, and I remember also being very ill
04:04
during that video, which probably explains
04:06
a lot of my predictions.
04:08
I wasn't ill and I was still very wrong.
04:10
Right, okay, let's get into it.
04:11
Let's begin with Williams,
04:14
where the 2026 driver lineup is Alex Albon
04:18
In 2023, I predicted Alex Albon and Frederick Vesti.
04:26
Now that one of them's absolutely bang on.
04:28
Thank you very much.
04:29
I'll be taking those two points.
04:30
The other one, Frederick Vesti,
04:34
he had a reasonable amount of hype at that point.
04:37
You know, he had Mercedes ties
04:39
and look, there are some bad predictions in this one.
04:42
I don't think this is an insane one
04:44
despite the fact Frederick never making it to Formula One.
04:48
So look, I'm not too angry at myself for going for this
04:53
because we're looking at the hype drivers at the time.
04:56
We're looking at who could make it through
04:58
and Frederick Vesti was one of them at the time.
05:02
I had Logan Sargent and Frederick Vesti.
05:07
So of course, I was also on the Vesti train
05:10
which we'll talk about in a bit.
05:11
We'll also talk about Logan Sargent.
05:13
Didn't work out for him, has to be said.
05:16
You know, this was the start of 23
05:21
and yeah, it wasn't good for Logie on his debut year,
05:26
He finished way down in the championship
05:29
and actually did manage another year somehow.
05:32
But onto Vesti, he actually ended that year
05:37
that we were predicting, so 23.
05:39
He finished that year second in F2.
05:43
He's still on the Mercedes radar.
05:46
And it's kind of laughable now, but it was a logical step
05:50
to think that he would make the step up.
05:52
You're looking at drivers of who's doing well in Formula Two
05:55
and you think he's got Mercedes backing
05:58
and he's doing incredibly well in F2.
06:00
He'd just won the feature race in Saudi
06:03
after we'd recorded this.
06:05
And if you'd have said in kind of, yeah,
06:09
that he'd never even got a shot at all,
06:11
never mind, you know, at a team
06:15
like not even like one odd race or anything,
06:17
I think was quite surprising.
06:20
So yes, not correct, but I think in a weird way
06:24
if you'd have predicted Carlos Sainz in that team
06:27
back in 2023, you'd be even more insane
06:30
to predict that than any of these two
06:32
which is quite a thought, isn't it?
06:33
Exactly. The dominoes that has gone on
06:35
since we did these predictions are quite crazy to think about.
06:40
Imagine how many comments for Slan that we'd have had
06:43
if we'd said, I think Carlos Sainz is going to be at Williams.
06:45
These were comfortably the worst team by a mile at this point.
06:50
This was without good old daddy vowels.
06:52
But of course, Vesti is a reserve driver
06:55
for Mercedes in F1.
06:56
So, you know, he's somewhere, but not on the grid.
07:00
Right, that's head to Alfa Tauri
07:01
where the 2026 driver lineup is Liam Lawson and Arvid Limblatt.
07:10
Yuki Sonoda and Iwasa.
07:14
And basically, the logic here,
07:17
which I said in the video, was Honda
07:20
had basically announced they were leaving Red Bull,
07:27
And there was talk about potentially like
07:30
where they're going to go,
07:30
because they are going to supply engines in 26,
07:34
but at this point, they hadn't signed an Aston Martin deal.
07:36
So it was a case of like, well, where they're going to go?
07:39
And there was a lot of talk of Alfa Tauri at the time,
07:43
racing bulls now being sold.
07:45
And my logic here was this would be some kind
07:47
of Honda team as such.
07:50
And in that, two Japanese drivers, Yuki Sonoda,
07:53
as the experienced driver that has been there
07:57
And Iwasa who was doing well in Formula 2 at this time.
08:01
So it made sense in my head.
08:03
And on to like the drivers that are actually there.
08:08
And just to kind of add a bit of
08:11
how crazy Formula One has been since this prediction,
08:14
Liam Lawson would have not been
08:17
on anyone's radar at this point.
08:19
And if you'd have said that one Liam Lawson would come in,
08:23
well, Nick De Vries was in at this point.
08:26
Which is quite crazy.
08:29
Nick De Vries was in at this point, replaced by Ricardo,
08:31
was then replaced by Lawson,
08:34
who then didn't get the seat next year
08:36
and then did get the seat
08:38
and then went into Red Bull for two races and then back.
08:40
Like what an insane journey he's had.
08:43
And at this point, not on radar at all.
08:47
Was he on my radar?
08:50
My two drivers for Alfa Tauri, back then,
08:54
now racing balls, was Gabrielle Bortoletto and Iyumu Iwasa.
08:59
So the first thing I want to do is slap myself in the face
09:01
because I was calling him Gabriel.
09:02
But at that point, I genuinely said,
09:04
He was completely unknown.
09:05
I literally said at the time,
09:07
I've not really heard of him, but...
09:10
Yeah, he's doing well enough for it.
09:11
I will take the point because, of course,
09:13
he is on the grid in 2026,
09:15
not driving for racing balls.
09:18
But yeah, Bortoletto was, I think,
09:20
yeah, in Formula Three at that point
09:21
and he was doing incredibly well.
09:23
Of course, he then went to win Formula Two as well
09:25
and now he's on the grid in Formula One.
09:26
And as for Iwasa, yeah, very similar sort of hype driver
09:29
at the time, made a lot of sense
09:32
to potentially get that step up.
09:34
But alas, it did not happen for Iwasa.
09:36
He has had the occasional FP1 outing, hasn't he?
09:41
But has not been on the grid.
09:42
So it is 3-0 to me as we head to the next one.
09:46
Come on, the Gallagher.
09:48
We go to Audi, Niko Holkenberg
09:51
and Gabriel Bortoletto are the drivers next season.
09:55
My prediction was Teo Porchea and Lando Norris.
10:03
So look, Porchea, this was, again,
10:05
like a couple of races into the Formula One season in 2023.
10:08
Porchea ended up winning Formula Two that year
10:11
and it's not as simple as getting a promotion
10:15
when you win Formula Two.
10:16
That's what we found out.
10:17
And I think Porchea was genuinely one of those drivers
10:19
that was wrong place, wrong time
10:21
to not get that opportunity.
10:23
As for Lando Norris,
10:26
I'll take the point because he's on the grid.
10:28
But McLaren were really quite not great back then
10:34
and I think people are forgetting this.
10:36
I even said, I think in this podcast back in 2023
10:40
that I didn't think McLaren
10:41
were gonna be doing very well come 2026.
10:44
But look, this is what happens
10:46
when you look back and you reflect.
10:48
But for Lando Norris in 2023,
10:51
he finished sixth in the standings
10:53
and he was 370 points behind Max Verstappen in 2023,
10:58
which of course he did.
10:59
I can add some more logic to that,
11:01
to your prediction.
11:03
That basically, at this point,
11:06
McLaren had finished behind Alpine
11:09
in the championship before, finished fifth.
11:12
Oh, they had the worst start to the season ever.
11:14
And Lando's first two results were 17th and 17th.
11:17
And that was on pure pace as well, wasn't it?
11:20
Because remember how much we laughed
11:23
at the Micka Hackenden prediction
11:26
about the fact that they were good.
11:27
They were terrible at this point.
11:30
And yeah, I think around this time,
11:32
we also did a video around Lando Norris.
11:36
He needs to leave McLaren because they're not good enough
11:38
and now he's world champion with them, crazy.
11:41
Yeah, and obviously you see our predictions
11:43
floating around social media
11:44
when people laugh at them and whatnot.
11:46
we were never saying that Lando was not good enough.
11:48
It was always the case of Lando's a great driver
11:51
in a team that can't give him the car.
11:53
Yeah, well, we said he needed to leave.
11:54
That's why, because McLaren weren't giving him the car
11:56
to deliver and he was very hyped at that point.
11:59
And then he won the world championship.
12:01
So, you know, that happened the moment
12:03
when McLaren forgiving him the car
12:04
that we said he needed in order to do well.
12:07
So one point for me for the Audi prediction.
12:11
My Audi prediction was Mick Schumacher
12:17
So interestingly, you're on the board.
12:19
You're finally on the board.
12:20
I'm finally on the board.
12:21
I've got the driver.
12:24
So, a couple of things here.
12:28
We had the Seidel had actually left McLaren at this point
12:32
and a lot of the reasons why I think we went for
12:35
Norris and Sainz was potentially a reunion there.
12:37
Of course, he hasn't actually ended up there
12:40
because so much has changed since then
12:41
but we knew Audi would be on the grid.
12:44
Mick Schumacher was a rogue pick of just,
12:47
I think they're going to get a German driver.
12:49
So they got Hülkenberg, so half a point.
12:53
And Carlos Sainz, there was logic there
12:55
because of course at this point,
12:57
we didn't know he was without a seat
13:00
with the Ferrari news and Lewis Hamilton news.
13:03
We thought you'd think that Sainz
13:05
would have stayed at Ferrari at this point
13:07
without the shock Hamilton move.
13:08
We had no idea at this point.
13:10
It was an absolute bombshell when it happened.
13:13
And my logic here was Carlos Sainz and Audi ties
13:17
with his dad and everything, it makes total sense
13:19
and of course it did very much almost happen.
13:22
He was contemplating it for sure.
13:25
It seemed like it was going to be between Audi
13:27
and Williams when he made that pick.
13:30
It was, yeah, but alas.
13:33
Did not go to the place that you had predicted.
13:36
It is 4-1 to me as we now head to Haas
13:40
where the driver lineup is Esteban Ocon and Ollie Bearman.
13:43
And my lineup, I went for Sergio Perez
13:46
and Kimi Antonelli, who was so unknown at the time,
13:49
I called him Kimi Antolotti.
13:52
Antolotti, and then you said something else
13:54
which was wrong, you literally had three attempts
13:56
at saying the driver that you'd apparently support.
14:00
Okay, so we can laugh at it,
14:04
but the fact that I predicted him
14:06
to even be in Formula One itself.
14:09
In 2023, he was, sorry, 2022,
14:13
he was driving in Italian Formula Four.
14:17
And at the start of this season,
14:20
he was driving the Formula Regional Middle East Championship,
14:25
the Formula Regional European Championship
14:27
and Italian GT Championship.
14:30
So I think the fact that I got him at all in Formula One.
14:32
Just call yourself a talent scout, really.
14:35
So I was on the Antolotti hype train
14:38
as I called it at this point
14:41
and thought that he was gonna make his way to Formula One,
14:43
which of course he did.
14:45
And Sergio Perez, the thinking there was that
14:49
Haas would go for an experienced lineup.
14:52
Experience and youth.
14:54
I got it right, but so wrong.
14:56
Ocon and Bearman, Perez and Antonelli.
15:01
Still a couple of points because you of course
15:03
got both drivers on the grid,
15:05
but not in the right team.
15:07
My lineup for Haas was Kevin Magnussen and Arthur Leclerc.
15:13
So Kevin Magnussen, look,
15:16
I think it was a little bit but rolled the dice
15:19
between Holkenberg and Magnussen.
15:21
K-Mag was, yeah, just the one that was ousted out
15:24
and fairly, I guess, in some ways.
15:28
You thought Holkenberg was gonna retire
15:29
as a bit older, wasn't he?
15:33
That's what I thought was that Holkenberg
15:34
would just be like, cool, I'm off.
15:35
But Holkenberg's of course
15:36
still been performing very well,
15:37
got his podium and things like that.
15:39
And yeah, and I thought K-Mag would keep that seat,
15:41
but you know, Holkenberg stayed in Formula One
15:46
and K-Mag was completely wrong.
15:49
As for Arthur Leclerc, I'll be honest,
15:52
that I was chatting absolutely out my arse.
15:54
That was, right, I'm actually looking at this point, okay?
15:58
So in 2022, he was sixth in Formula Three.
16:02
Nothing too crazy, but not like,
16:04
he wasn't absolutely horrific, okay?
16:07
He also, and may I add,
16:09
won the Formula Regional Asian Championship
16:12
for Mumbai Falcons India Racing.
16:14
So I'd obviously been scouting him out there.
16:18
It's like championship manager.
16:22
Yeah, at this point, he wasn't like,
16:24
I mean, he's not an absolutely horrific driver,
16:25
but no, he doesn't deserve to be in Formula One.
16:27
No disrespect, Arthur, but like,
16:29
he got to FP1 a few times.
16:30
I felt like his surname may well carry him
16:32
to potentially seat.
16:35
Formula One has seen many a worse driver come to Formula One
16:38
because of said surnames and power and money
16:41
and things like that.
16:42
So it didn't happen for Arthur,
16:44
and I will hold my hands up.
16:45
That was a shocking prediction.
16:49
It is four, three to Tommy as we go to Alpine.
16:53
The driver lineup is Pierre Gasly and Franco Collapinto.
16:57
My Alpine lineup was Esteban Ocon and Jo Guan Yu.
17:03
So I get a point because Ocon is still on the grid.
17:06
I love how we're giving out points.
17:07
It's literally like a participation point.
17:08
Makes us look better than it is, doesn't it?
17:11
Things can change rapidly and we know that.
17:13
There's a lot of rookies on the grid.
17:14
Ocon, I thought, would not have
17:17
the entire relationship meltdown with Alpine.
17:19
I genuinely thought that he would be there
17:23
That did not happen.
17:24
Everything crumbled.
17:25
And as for Jo Guan Yu, I saw in my mind's eye
17:29
him going back to Renault slash Alpine
17:31
in this glorious, refound, rekindled relationship.
17:37
But that did not happen.
17:39
So Alpine, I had Teopo Che and Jo Guan Yu.
17:43
So interestingly enough, we both went for Jo Guan Yu
17:46
feeling that Alpine made sense for him to go there.
17:53
And Teopo Che, I really did think that, like you,
17:56
that he would be in Formula One.
17:58
He won Formula Two in 2022.
18:03
He had the French connection as well,
18:04
which I thought would work great for Alpine.
18:08
And if you'd have said after he won F2 in 2022,
18:15
and then, sorry, finished second in 22
18:19
and won the championship in 23.
18:21
If you'd have said by 2025,
18:24
he would be doing the European Le Mans series
18:31
This is the thing, like we laugh, but like,
18:35
crazy things happen with young drivers.
18:38
And you know, Spoiler Alert, Oli Bearman
18:40
and Hadja on my list.
18:49
And you don't know, and I saw something very interesting.
18:54
It was an engineer, I think, talking about how like,
18:58
there's so many drivers in Formula One where
19:02
things align and you go on a different path
19:05
and it either works or it doesn't.
19:07
And there's so many really capable drivers
19:10
that could deliver.
19:11
We spoke about Lawson, didn't we?
19:13
And how it took Daniel Ricciardo
19:15
breaking his hand for him to get an opportunity.
19:16
And then he was really hyped
19:17
and then he got the opportunity and didn't work out.
19:20
But yeah, he's, it's all so much of motorsport,
19:23
no disrespect, like talent to do well
19:26
and the best talent, cream rises to the top.
19:29
But there is so much of right place, right time.
19:31
And I think Teopo chair is wrong place, wrong time for him.
19:37
And it's a sad story.
19:39
I'm sure he probably thinks
19:41
had things gone slightly differently.
19:43
He'd be in Formula One right now, but it didn't happen.
19:49
Did you want to say anything about Jaguar new?
19:51
Just the, yeah, interesting how we both thought it
19:55
had the connection with the Renault Academy
19:57
and thought he'd be there,
19:58
but alas, not on the grid.
20:01
Let's head to McLaren, where of course the driver lineup
20:05
is Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri.
20:08
So my lineup was Colton Herter and Oscar Piastri.
20:14
Now, yes, absolutely insane to look at it now.
20:17
Lando has gone like you.
20:19
I thought he would go at this point.
20:21
We've said it, you know,
20:23
McLaren weren't very good at the stage.
20:25
He had, Lando was a really strong talent in 21 and 22.
20:33
And we thought, you know,
20:34
this guy deserves better than this McLaren.
20:38
And if you'd said to me
20:40
that McLaren would be winning the World Championship in 25,
20:44
as you said, you know,
20:45
don't see McLaren being very good.
20:47
The turnaround, you know,
20:49
we've said some like things about McLaren
20:51
and laughed at their strategies and things like that,
20:54
but they deserve an unbelievable amount of credit
20:59
for how they've turned things around.
21:02
So at this point, they had just finished
21:05
the 2022 season behind Alpine in fifth place.
21:14
If you'd have said in three years,
21:16
McLaren would be Alpine by 811 points
21:20
and win the Constructors' Championship.
21:24
So fair play, McLaren.
21:26
And the logic here, of course,
21:27
Zach Brown was pushing so hard for an American driver
21:31
to be in Formula One.
21:34
And he rated her to,
21:37
we know that there's talk of him wanting
21:39
an Indy car talent in Formula One.
21:42
Look what awards done, of course,
21:43
the whole messy stuff with Polo as well.
21:47
But there was logic there.
21:49
Herta was very, very hyped at this point.
21:51
And Oscar, of course, you know,
21:55
a rookie at this stage.
21:56
And I thought he would stay there
21:58
and continue to kind of continue like with McLaren.
22:04
And hooray, a point, two points, finally.
22:08
Two points for a bang on prediction.
22:11
My McLaren prediction was Sergio Perez and Oscar Piastri.
22:18
For Sergio, I did not expect him to be having a season off
22:24
and not having a seat in Formula One
22:26
between when we made these predictions and now.
22:29
I felt that, of course,
22:30
that Red Bull relationship would come to an end and it did.
22:35
And I thought McLaren would open up their loving arms
22:38
for the experienced Sergio Perez, but they did not.
22:43
And as for Oscar Piastri, similar to you,
22:45
I felt like he'd still be there gaining experience.
22:48
I did not think he'd be challenging
22:49
for the World Championship in his third season.
22:51
That's what he did.
22:53
So yeah, a bang on prediction for me as well.
22:55
So something finally to write down
22:57
and say, yay, we did this.
22:59
I can't believe you didn't predict
23:01
that Andretti would put a bid into Formula One.
23:05
but Cadillac would be allowed on the grid given a place
23:09
and then would sign Sergio Perez.
23:11
How like, you know, no wheel.
23:13
Yeah, absolutely no wheel has been displayed here.
23:16
So I get three points for that
23:17
because Oscar was bang on and Sergio is on the grid.
23:19
It is eight five to me as we head to Ferrari
23:24
where the lineup is, of course,
23:25
Charlotte Clair and Lewis Hamilton.
23:27
And I predicted Pierre Gasly and Carlos Sainz.
23:33
Wow, little did 2023,
23:36
but no that Lewis Hamilton was going to come along
23:39
and Charlotte Clair would still be there.
23:41
That is something I was convinced
23:43
was not going to be the case.
23:44
I felt that Charlotte would have had enough to be fair.
23:47
The one thing I was right about
23:48
is that Ferrari won't gonna win anything
23:49
and that is correct.
23:51
We have not won a constructors
23:52
or drivers won championships since then,
23:56
but I felt like Pierre Gasly at this point,
23:58
he was able to show just how good he is
24:02
and how he was and is.
24:05
And I felt that Ferrari may have snapped him up
24:07
as a driver to replace Charlotte Clair,
24:11
but he is still there.
24:13
And as for Carlos Sainz,
24:15
we were correct that he was at Ferrari,
24:18
but then obviously he was at Ferrari
24:20
at the time that we did these recordings, yeah.
24:22
So I was about to say like, wow, we actually did something.
24:24
No, of course we didn't, this was 2023.
24:27
So Carlos, I felt that he would still be at Ferrari.
24:30
I didn't think Lewis Hamilton would come knocking
24:33
and if anything, the vacancy would be taken
24:35
in the other side of the garage when Charles left,
24:38
but instead Carlos is the one to have left
24:40
and still get two points
24:42
because Gasly and Sainz are on the grid.
24:45
So my Ferrari prediction was Pierre Gasly
24:49
and Alex Alban, crazy.
24:54
It's crazy, is it as crazy as Lewis Hamilton joining?
25:01
No, absolutely not.
25:02
No, we've got used to it now.
25:04
We've got used to Hamilton being at Ferrari.
25:06
It was the most insane piece of news
25:07
we've ever heard in global law history.
25:10
And my logic was similar to you that Le Clair,
25:13
his contract was actually up at this point
25:16
before he announced his new mega contract
25:19
for insert year guessing,
25:23
which everyone seems to do now, eternity contract.
25:26
And yet I went for the fact that he would basically leave.
25:32
He'd had enough, Ferrari weren't winning anything
25:34
and he moves on, which he hasn't done.
25:38
And Carlos would also be the case of he's left
25:43
as I obviously put him at Audi.
25:44
So you thought Carlos would have got sick of him as well?
25:46
Yeah, so I put him at Audi.
25:48
And they'd both be sick of Ferrari
25:50
and Ferrari would look for drivers that would be strong
25:54
and experienced at this point.
25:57
And those drivers who have a lot of braces
26:00
and were basically left for me to pick
26:03
were Gasly and Albin.
26:05
So yeah, completely wrong.
26:07
But as I say, the fact that Lewis Hamilton
26:12
was there is probably more shocking.
26:14
That's what's changed a lot of this.
26:16
I'm not saying that we would have been any more accurate
26:18
at Hamilton State of Mercedes.
26:19
Hamilton was the domino that just changed everything
26:23
because we laugh at these and fair enough, yeah,
26:26
that they are so wrong and it's crazy how much it's changed.
26:30
But you look at the grid now
26:33
and even looking at the grid now compared
26:36
to what it was before, there'd be a lot of names there
26:39
that you're just like, you're so wrong.
26:42
Like if we predicted it exactly right,
26:44
imagine the comments going, Hamilton at Ferrari,
26:47
what are you talking about?
26:49
We would have had two years.
26:50
Antonelli at 18 year old at Mercedes.
26:52
We would have had two years of slander
26:54
and then people going, oh, sorry, actually, you're right.
26:57
It's actually worth just being wrong the entire time, isn't it?
27:00
Yeah, so there you go.
27:01
Completely wrong at Ferrari,
27:02
but we both get a couple of points
27:03
because all of those drivers are still on the grid.
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Mercedes, George Russell and Kimmy Antonelli
33:00
are the lineup, Tommy, who did you predict?
33:03
I went for George Russell
33:08
So I didn't go for Antonelli, of course,
33:11
because I put him in the house.
33:12
So I thought he'd be on the grid.
33:14
Didn't expect him to jump into that car as soon as he did.
33:18
But thought he'd be on the grid.
33:19
But I went for Ocon basically with the idea
33:22
that Hamilton would retire at this point.
33:27
I'd assume that Hamilton basically decided to retire,
33:31
hang up his gloves,
33:33
and then Toto would look for an experienced driver
33:36
to partner with his team leader, George Russell.
33:39
And he's worked with Ocon before.
33:40
He was a Mercedes junior.
33:43
I even said that, you know,
33:45
it's weird to think that Ocon was like
33:47
the George Russell of the time
33:48
that when Bottas was really struggling,
33:51
Ocon was doing amazing things in Force India
33:53
and there was quite a lot of narrative around
33:56
get Ocon in the Mercedes, it's Hamilton's teammate.
33:59
It would be really exciting.
34:01
Yeah, that was the logic there.
34:04
But of course, Espenocon was at Alpine
34:07
and then moved to House.
34:10
My Mercedes prediction was George Russell and Charles Lecler.
34:18
George, of course, bang on.
34:19
And if we do 2030 driver lineups,
34:23
perhaps things will be slightly different at Mercedes
34:26
if they are as good as they may well be next year
34:30
and Max Verstappen comes knocking.
34:31
But so not really much to say about George.
34:34
It kind of has played out the way we expected at Mercedes.
34:38
Charles Lecler, I had to put him somewhere
34:42
and it had to be a top team
34:44
because I thought he was gonna leave Ferrari.
34:48
He has not left Ferrari.
34:50
And instead, I, yeah,
34:53
I don't know if I even regret this prediction.
34:55
I don't think it's the most insane thing ever.
34:59
At this point, we didn't know
35:00
just how patient Charles Lecler was.
35:03
Now we realize he has the patience of a saint.
35:06
That's why he's called Saint Lecler.
35:08
And fair play to him.
35:11
There's three points for both of us
35:12
because of course George is bang on
35:13
and then Charles and Esteban are still on the grid.
35:15
So it's 13-10 to me
35:19
with two teams left, Aston Martin,
35:23
the driver lineup, Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll.
35:26
Of course, my prediction made in April, 2023
35:33
was Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll.
35:39
He's got one bang on, one out of 10 teams.
35:42
By going for the same thing.
35:43
By going for the same thing.
35:46
it's the one time I've actually spoken some wheel.
35:50
I said at the time when Aston were doing very well
35:54
and they were looking quick
35:55
that Fernando was doing a lot of amazing things there.
35:58
Why would he leave?
35:59
If he's elevating this team into a position
36:03
that they haven't been in, why would Fernando leave?
36:06
Why would Aston want to break that contract
36:09
and that relationship?
36:11
However, of course, they've gone backwards since then
36:14
but Alonso is staying
36:15
because Adrian knew he's joined the team.
36:17
So, and of course, Lance Stroll is gonna be there
36:20
for the rest of time.
36:21
That was kind of a given.
36:22
That was the easiest two points anyone's ever had.
36:25
But very happy that I got one team correct.
36:29
So for Aston Martin, I went for Charlotte Claire
36:37
Wow, I mean, that does not make sense in my brain.
36:39
Those two together.
36:40
Like, can you imagine that?
36:43
Those two driving together.
36:44
Yeah, just in a Formula One team.
36:48
That's interesting because like your Mercedes one,
36:52
I could see if looking at,
36:55
if Charles would to leave Ferrari
36:58
and say, we go into the new regulations
37:01
and he basically needs to go somewhere,
37:05
I'd back this again, probably, an Aston Martin move
37:09
because Alonso will retire at some point.
37:11
It's more the dynamic of those two as teammates
37:13
just doesn't make sense in my brain.
37:15
But obviously, Lance Stroll was,
37:21
We made some crazy predictions,
37:22
but we all knew that Lance Stroll would still be there.
37:26
So in all this, it was of course
37:29
that Alonso would retire at this age,
37:32
but he's now gonna go into a new regulation,
37:37
hopefully with a great car, an Adrian Newey car.
37:41
But I thought Leclerc would basically, yeah,
37:45
Because this is when we thought Aston
37:46
was gonna be a very good team, potentially.
37:49
Yeah, yeah, of course, we knew it was gonna be the change.
37:52
Interestingly enough, you mentioned about
37:54
Charles going to Mercedes.
37:57
I just had a look from an article from April 2023,
38:05
which would have been just after we did this video.
38:07
And it says, Charles Leclerc denies he has been in talks
38:10
to replace Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes.
38:12
It's the spotlight brightens
38:14
on the Britain's future of Formula One.
38:17
Hamilton and Mercedes team principal,
38:18
Tata Wolff has said a deal will be struck.
38:21
That didn't happen.
38:24
And report in Italy this week claims
38:27
that it was an open secret that Ferrari's Leclerc
38:30
was already in talks with the Silver Arrows
38:33
about a future move.
38:34
So it was being hyped up.
38:37
So there was logic there.
38:38
And again, I thought we both had the same logic
38:42
that Charles would have had enough at Ferrari and move on.
38:47
But he's still there and all those wins and championships.
38:51
All right, let's move on.
38:52
17, 13 to me as we head to the final team, Red Bull Racing.
38:58
Of course, there's more teams in 2026,
39:00
but we didn't know that at the time.
39:01
So we're basing on the 10 teams.
39:03
The 2026 lineup, of course, is Max Verstappen and Isaac Hajjar.
39:08
And my lineup was Max Verstappen and Lando Norris.
39:14
The top two in the championship this season.
39:18
And yes, if I'd have gone for Isaac Hajjar,
39:25
everyone would have gone, who's Isaac Hajjar?
39:28
But I went for Max, I thought he'd stay, of course.
39:31
This was at the start of the fact
39:35
that he'd won the 22 season.
39:38
This was, of course, the start of 23.
39:43
When he'd only got, this was the year, of course,
39:48
where he ended up completely dominating
39:50
and going on that amazing run
39:51
and winning almost every single race.
39:54
Thought he'd stay at Red Bull,
39:56
couldn't have predicted the turmoil at Red Bull
39:58
that was about to unfold, of course, as well.
40:01
It's crazy to think at this stage,
40:04
all those people that were still there,
40:06
that have now left.
40:07
But I thought, Lando Norris,
40:10
you had him moving on from McLaren as well,
40:14
bit like Charles Leclerc, a great driver,
40:17
fed up with his team not delivering,
40:19
and that was the logic, and that was the logic here,
40:21
that he would move to Red Bull,
40:23
he was highly sought after by Red Bull.
40:25
Helmut Marco, there's a lot of talk
40:27
that Helmut Marco wanted him on board.
40:32
And I remember having a lot of in-depth discussions
40:35
around this time about Lando Norris and Red Bull,
40:38
and would you take never winning a race at McLaren
40:42
or going to Red Bull,
40:43
where you will have a championship winning car,
40:46
but your team makes Max Verstappen, and what do you do?
40:49
And that was why I put him there.
40:52
And of course, he did stay at McLaren,
40:55
and thank goodness he didn't listen to us,
40:57
because that was the right decision, well done, Lando.
40:59
Exactly, he showed loyalty to the team
41:01
and the team was able to perform
41:02
a miracle turnaround in performance
41:04
in the same set of regulations as well, right?
41:08
There's been no change of regulation
41:09
since the moment we predicted this.
41:10
That's the most insane thing I think.
41:12
It's, you know, you can say what you like about
41:15
how wrong we were, but it is absolutely insane
41:19
that McLaren had started at this point,
41:21
had been fifth, two 17th places,
41:25
and you'd said fast forward to here,
41:27
and they're winning the championship by like 400 points
41:31
over anyone else, like Watanair.
41:33
Yeah, absolute domination in the constructors.
41:36
Yeah, the Lando Red Bull thing did seem very on at the time,
41:40
but it didn't happen.
41:42
My prediction for the Rebel Racing team
41:45
was Max Verstappen and Yuki Sonoda.
41:48
Oh my, sorry, it feels actually wrong
41:51
that you get more points for a Max Lando lineup
41:54
than I do for a Max Yuki,
41:56
because of course you cannot on the grid next year,
41:58
and Max, of course, in the correct team.
42:03
Wow, it could have been.
42:06
Rebel, why did you not commit to Yuki Sonoda
42:08
for one more year to make this correct?
42:10
Because then I could have said,
42:11
I actually got something right with a team that changed.
42:15
Of course, Aston Martin, I can only celebrate so much.
42:19
But how we got to there is not what I predicted.
42:22
It's not like I thought that this Max Yuki thing
42:25
would require a million driver swaps
42:27
and some ridiculously controversial mid-season things
42:31
going on and whatnot,
42:33
but yeah, Max and Yuki, I saw it, it happened,
42:37
but it's not happening in 2026.
42:39
So I just went to look to see what was going on
42:43
in Hadja's life at this stage when we predicted him,
42:48
and he had just finished fourth
42:51
in the Formula Three championship,
42:55
and he would finish that F2 season in 14th.
43:00
So, okay, well, we should have seen it.
43:03
We should have seen it.
43:04
I mean, you were scouting Antonelli and Flippin S7,
43:08
so yeah, Hadja wouldn't have been that much of a rogue.
43:14
Rogue pick for you, so there you go.
43:17
All right, so the final scores, 19 to me,
43:20
and 16 to Tommy, he wins another one,
43:24
get in there, and also the one you did win,
43:27
I've seen in the comments, absolutely rocks.
43:29
It was actually a draw for the, which one was it?
43:36
I'm trying to remember now, I've done so many predictions.
43:39
So many predictions.
43:43
Why have I just blanked?
43:44
It was the entire championship table.
43:45
The entire championship table, yes, yes, there you go.
43:47
We got there in the end.
43:48
You can tell it's the end of the year.
43:50
My brains have switched off of how to do a podcast,
43:52
but hopefully you enjoyed us reflecting this on this.
43:55
We certainly did, ridiculously inaccurate, some of them.
44:00
You know what I'm really annoyed about?
44:02
Cause obviously all the points we got,
44:04
if I'm not mistaken, are for the drivers
44:07
that stayed in their team.
44:09
The amount of changes we did, just one right,
44:11
where we were like, oh, Colour Science did go to Audi,
44:14
or Pierre Gasly did go to Ferrari.
44:17
We would have fed off that prediction for generations
44:19
and shared the social clip a million times,
44:22
and we did not get one.
44:24
Did we not get one?
44:30
Why would you say that at the end of the podcast?
44:32
Why don't we end on the positive
44:33
that I got Aston Martin, right?
44:35
Look, I can, I can, I'll just,
44:38
I'll just dine on the Kimmy Anthony thing.
44:41
You'll dine on that.
44:42
I'll dine on Aston Martin
44:43
and getting Red Bull right, but in the wrong year.
44:47
That just shows Formula One's very hard to predict.
44:51
And when people start going, oh, man, Tommy,
44:54
because this is what people did back in 2023.
44:56
Oh, you can tell there's a four-week break of F1
44:59
in the middle of a 2023 season
45:00
when you're doing 2026 driver lineups.
45:03
Well, when we do it in 2026 for 2074,
45:07
don't complain because it makes for great content
45:09
when we react to it.
45:11
Can I throw, before we go,
45:15
I actually just need to find this.
45:17
What are you finding?
45:18
I'm sorry, I'm going to throw Will Buxton
45:20
under the bus now to show, to show.
45:23
Anywhere should he come out?
45:25
To show you how difficult it is
45:26
to predict something from so far away.
45:29
So, end of 21, Buxton did something similar,
45:33
said I'm going to predict the 2025 grid.
45:37
So we can see, I'm going to read through his now
45:39
and we can compare.
45:41
Red Bull, Max Verstappen and Lando Norris.
45:46
Tommy's like, absolutely, I love that.
45:48
That's why I went for so.
45:49
Ferrari, Charlecler, Carlos Sainz.
45:53
Mercedes, George Russell and Daniel Riccardo.
45:57
None of us went for Daniel Riccardo.
45:58
No, we didn't go for Daniel Riccardo.
45:59
McLaren, Patoa Ward and Pierre Gasly.
46:05
Aston Martin, Nick DeVries and Liam Lawson.
46:09
Alpine, Ocon and Theo Porcher.
46:13
Alpha Tauri, Dennis Hauger and Arvid Limblad.
46:17
Wow, he got the Arvid.
46:20
Williams, Jamie Chadwick and Kimmy Antonelli.
46:24
A fellow Antonelli scout.
46:26
Alfa Romeo, Mick Schumacher and Arthur Leclercler.
46:29
And this was in 2021 as well, you said.
46:31
So this was further back.
46:32
So Will has cooked on a couple of these.
46:35
And Has, Kyle Kirkwood and Zane Maloney.
46:41
All right, well, there you go.
46:42
So it's tough to find, as we say,
46:45
like the F3, the F2 drivers.
46:47
But he got a couple of bangers but we didn't get
46:49
any bangers, sorry.
46:51
We're gonna have to keep doing this.
46:53
Yeah, there you go.
46:54
All right, well, thank you everybody for tuning in.
46:56
It has been a pleasure to bring you our washed predictions.
46:59
I hope you've enjoyed them.
47:00
Tommy, what are your final thoughts?
47:01
Final thoughts are just happy new year.
47:05
And obviously it's a nice way to reflect on 26
47:09
and be excited for it.
47:12
And yeah, I'm excited for it.
47:16
New Formula One, the regulation video
47:18
has got me very excited for a new season.
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I can't wait for it.
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Hell yeah, can't wait for it.
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I hope everybody's enjoying time with their families.
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And yes, have an amazing new year.
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Should we not do other content, but we might do.
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I don't know what's going on really anymore.
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But alas, we will still be there
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and we'll see you soon.
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There's still hope.
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You know, when Teopo chair announces
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that he's going to Audi and we've actually cooked,
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after all, Arthur Leclerc to house.
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Yeah, there's still time.
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I still believe you never know with contracts.
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They can be ripped up.
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