inside vs outside overtake rules (front axle at the apex)
When drivers try to pass through a corner, the rules judge whether the passing car is actually far enough ahead at the turning point. Going on the inside and going on the outside have different “how far ahead you must be” measurements. That’s why commentators talk about the front axle being alongside or ahead at the apex.
The apex is the tightest point of the corner. Race officials can judge a pass by checking where the cars are at that exact point. The speaker says the passing car has to be alongside (inside move) or clearly ahead (outside move) at the apex.
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onboard vs off-board footage discrepancy
Onboard video shows what the driver sees, while off-board video is filmed from outside the car. Those angles can make it look like one car is ahead in one view and behind in another, even if the reality is very close. That’s why the speaker is confused about what the footage is really proving.
After on-track incidents, officials can review what happened and decide if a penalty is needed. The speaker is upset that this one wasn’t even looked at. Their point is that, based on the rules, it should have been reviewed.
They’re saying some drivers can take a very aggressive line so they reach the corner’s tightest point first. The worry is that this can make the pass look legal based on the apex rule, even if it feels like they’re bending the spirit of the rules. It’s more about officiating logic than car mechanics.
“Turn one” is the first corner at the start of a Grand Prix, where cars are packed tightly and incidents are common. Because of that, drivers are often held responsible for avoiding collisions or unsafe maneuvers right off the line.
These are the official guidelines drivers have to follow in F1. The discussion is about how the rules shape what drivers can do when they’re fighting for position.
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ethical wheel
It’s a joking way fans talk about whether a move was “fair” or “too much.” People argue about what’s acceptable even when the rules are involved.
These are the rules drivers have to follow when trying to pass each other. They cover things like whether you can run side-by-side and how much space you must leave.
It means two cars are traveling next to each other at the same time, usually while braking or turning. Fans like it because it looks like real racing, not just one car cutting through.
Run-off is the extra space beside the track designed to help cars slow down if they miss the corner. It can make drivers feel like there’s a safety buffer if things get tight.
Steering is how the driver turns the car. In crash investigations, the steering direction can help show whether the driver was trying to pass, defend, or avoid contact.
Stewards are the race officials who review what happened during an incident. They decide if someone should get a penalty based on the evidence.
Term
over the grass
Going “over the grass” refers to cutting across or running onto the track’s grass verge, usually to gain position or avoid losing momentum. In F1, it’s risky because it can upset traction and handling, and it can also lead to penalties if it’s deemed unsafe or against the rules.
“Rejoined” means the driver got back onto the track after being off the normal racing line. It matters because it can affect whether other cars have to react suddenly.
DRS is an F1 trick that makes the car go faster on straights. It opens a flap on the rear wing for a limited time so it’s easier to pass the car ahead.
In F1, “tyres” are the tires the car runs on, and their grip changes as they heat up and wear out. That’s why teams care a lot about when the tires reach the right temperature and how old they are during the race.
“Mediums” are one type of F1 tire. It’s chosen because it balances grip and how long it lasts, but it still has to get up to the right temperature to perform.
Tire grip depends a lot on how hot the tires get. If the tires don’t warm up enough—like they’re saying happens in Canada—you can feel slower or less confident early in the race.
“Locking up” in F1 means the brakes are applied so hard that the wheels stop rotating and slide. “Aggressively” implies it’s happening more than desired, which can reduce braking efficiency and potentially hurt tire condition.
“Tyre age” just means how much the tires have been used. As tires get older, they often lose grip, so teams track it to guess how fast everyone will be later in the race.
“Loop holes” means finding a technical trick in the rules that still counts as legal. When rules are new, teams try to push right up to the edge, which can change how the cars behave on track.
A penalty is a punishment for breaking the race rules. It can change the final results even if the driver crossed the line earlier in a better position.
A chicane is a part of the track where the road “zig-zags” with tight turns. It forces drivers to slow down and makes it easier for cars to get close together—so incidents can happen there.
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. We're going to
talk about some Formula One today. Formula One has come back with a bang. And this sprint race...
A wheel bang. Oh, good one Tommy. You're on fire this weekend. I honestly can't wait to talk about
this because it's felt like a while since we've had a dramatic sort of pretty much 50-50 incident
to discuss. And some people will be on one side, some will be on the other, but that's the beauty
of Formula One and their very vague rules. Yeah, I'm hyped. I'm very excited for this one. There's a lot
of strong opinions that I've got about this. And yeah, it was just a brilliant... Has to be said
at the start, just what a brilliant, brilliant sprint race. Really, really good. Years gone by,
we've always complained that the sprint doesn't really do anything in the all-just-hold position
because it's kind of the first phase of the race. That did not happen. My word was it brilliant.
It certainly was. So let's get into it and start with a question from P1 patron member Blackson.
How justified was Kimmy's anger at George for that first incident? The ones after were clearly
his own doing, but the first one was on the line. We're going straight into it. There's no
fluff. Yeah. There's none of this sort of stuff. We're going straight into the incident. Unless
you want to talk about Stroll's P16 and the investigation first, or...
Great idea, because that one actually is slightly more important for the championship
and the narrative around it. No, it's the Russell versus Antonelli incident. And I have watched this
a thousand times, over and over and over. And I love, by the way, how we joked after Miami about
what we thought were instilled team orders about don't go anywhere near your teammate because
of how much room they gave each other into turn one at Miami. No more. None of that at all. When
it's for the win, even if it's a sprint and there's eight points on the line and seven for second,
they will leave one millimeter if that. I think that Kimmy was absolutely justified to be
angry. We have to also take into account he's a 19-year-old, second season,
trying to fight for a world championship. And he attempted a move which was audacious. I think
that is the first word you could use for it. Round the outside at turn one on your championship
rival, fair play. And teammate, yeah. Yes. But two, it was measured to a degree. He was not going
for the more difficult move because there are different rules around going up the inside
compared to round the outside. You need to be further ahead. So essentially, let me actually
break this down for some people that maybe aren't completely up to speed. So if you are trying to
make a move down the inside, you have to have your front axle at least alongside the mirror of the
car before and at the apex. That's the rule there. So it's not as far alongside.
For round the outside, you have to have your front axle, so your wheel, essentially,
ahead of their front axle at the apex. So I have been looking at these videos. And I don't know
if we're living in a simulation, Tommy, because when I watch the onboard of Kimmy Antonelli,
it looks like he is ahead. But when I look at the off-board, it looks like George has got to
the apex first. Are we living in two different simulations? I don't know. But what I will say
on this incident, and this is what I feel very strongly about, the fact that this wasn't even
investigated is absolutely insane. Like genuinely an unbelievably ridiculous stewarding call.
I understand why Kimmy was fuming. Whether or whether you think George gets a penalty or not,
and whether it should be, the fact that it's not even investigated is absolutely bonkers.
He is, Kimmy is in control of his car. He's going round the outside exactly what you said with that
kind of, you know, we've seen incidents, particularly with a certain Max Verstappen,
and I'll say this as a fan of him, where you can kind of cheat the rules a little bit because you
can dive into the apex. And this is what we've said many times, why we didn't like these rules
about who's ahead at the apex, because you can kind of almost dive to get there and sort the
problem out. However, Kimmy was completely in control of his car. He was making the corner
absolutely fine. He was well in control ahead of Russell, in my opinion, if you look at certain
moments, you can pause many screenshots of the onboard and see that sometimes he's ahead,
sometimes he's not. But in that kind of apex, which if you counting that as the curb on the inside,
it's very, very close. Sometimes he's ahead, sometimes he's not. So how that wasn't even
an investigation is insane to me, absolutely insane. Like, it's a ridiculous decision from
the stewards. Like, what are they doing? And I love, you can tell that we're back and we've had
a dramatic incident, it's been a while, you've jumped ahead to the second question. So why don't
we talk about that? It's from Anastasia W. And that was around the no investigation at all. And
more to the point around whether, you know, because it's a team battle, does it mean that
there's different rules? No, the stewards still work, no matter who is fighting who. I'm sure that
there are levels to it where teams can be slightly more vocal about it and try and push the agenda.
But in terms of their role, they have to look at everything. It doesn't matter if it's teammates
or not. So it's a bit like the context. We've had this discussion before, haven't we, about the
context of a move and how you kind of have to take the context of whether it's this,
whether it's that. And I think it's exactly the same as when it's a teammate, right? You have to
judge it as if it's just two cars, because at the end of the day, it is two cars, two cars racing
for the win. It is. So I can't believe that, because it's that process, isn't it, of noted,
and then it's investigated. I didn't even see them take a note. Like, where are their pens?
Did they not have a pen and paper to take a note for this particular incident? Were they too busy,
sat back going, this is awesome. Formula ones, but oh, God, no, with the stewards.
Like that, it felt like that, because how that has not been noted and investigated, by the way.
I think that was 100% worthy of an investigation, purely because I have watched that video in slow
motion, with picture form, in everything. And I can't fully decide which way I want to lean.
I have an idea, but the fact that a lot of us are sat here going, that was pretty close,
is what is worthy of an investigation. Yes, definitely. Like, if we're considering the
fact that if someone said, I think George Russell should have got a penalty, if someone said that
to me, I'd be like, I can kind of understand why you think that, because he's squeezed Kimmy Antonelli,
he's not given him racing room, when Antonelli was ahead going around the outside and in control
of his car. Now, I'm not saying it should be a penalty, but you can kind of see the argument
for it. So the no investigation thing is just bonkers. I'm sorry, it's just ridiculous.
It really is. Let's now not sort of skirt around our opinion anymore and get to the question from
underscore R2F1. Who's getting the slap on the wrists? Kimmy or George? Now, before we get into
that, because there's more than one incident to talk about, let's decide if there was ever an
investigation, what would have happened? For me, I think it is so marginally in the favor of George
not getting a penalty, that that's the way I sit, just purely because I've looked at many angles,
looked at the rules and the fact that the axle has to be ahead of, or Kimmy's axle has to be ahead
of George's axle. And it genuinely is centimetres away from it being one way or the other. But
that's the way I'm leaning, because round the outside moves, we know that in Formula One, that
hardly ever happens. Of course, it turns into the inside. But that doesn't matter. This is a turn
one move at this stage. So for me, I am going to lock in racing incident, but my God, was it close
to not being one? I think there definitely should have been an investigation. And it's so difficult
because I keep, like you, I keep watching it. And there's such an argument for the fact that
Kimmy is alongside, I would rather not see penalties and things for given stuff for moments like that.
But I think George was a little bit naughty, like Kimmy said, and knows what he's doing,
because Kimmy was in control of his car. I think he's very lucky to get away with it personally.
And you mentioned like, who's getting the slap on the wrist? I didn't know if this was a question
more in the lines of like, for Toto Wolf, basically, and whether, you know, because I think if that's
the case, we talk about the stewards. I think one thing that I actually saw that I wanted to
mention about the whole teammate battle, just from from that previous question as well, is that I saw
a thing that really kind of resonated with me, what Bernie Collins said and completely agree with
that she said, if George Russell was in a McLaren or any other car, Mercedes would be on the radio
nonstop complaining that Kimmy Antonelli was hard done by, it should have been a penalty for the
car in front. Absolutely. I think no one can tell me that that wouldn't have happened. Like,
Toto would have been on the radio going, he's pushed him off there, it's not enough space.
And that definitely would have happened. So because it's teammates, I don't think it matters.
But in terms of like a slap on the wrist between what Toto's saying, I think actually,
both of them are going to have a word. I don't think, I don't think it's, I know like Kimmy's
made the audacious move. And I think actually Kimmy will get more of a telling off, I think,
because he went again for a very audacious move, which, you know, the second one was never on,
that's nothing on Russell at all. It was just a, I think Kimmy saw red after what happened
previously and went for it. I think Toto's going to be very annoyed that the fact that Kimmy was
airing his frustrations publicly on the radio, I can understand why, because he was very annoyed
about it. But I also think George will get a bit of, you know, they'll sit them both down.
I don't think they're going to play favorites. And Toto will basically say to both of them,
like, you can't be doing that. And as a Formula One fan, please continue because I want to say that.
Yes. Yeah, I believe that George will get a slap on the wrist for turn one,
because it was, it's his responsibility for those two to not crash. And it was very,
very close to that happening. And Kimmy did the right thing and bailed out at a time where
as much as within the rules.
Kimmy's move wasn't outrageous, was it? It wasn't like he's out of control. It was really legitimate.
It would have been, if George had given him space, and this is the whole thing that I really don't
like about racing rules and just modern Formula One in general. I know it's ironic coming from a
Max DeSappen fan. But like, if George gives him room there, and we've seen this with many incidents
he has gone by, we're talking about that as one of the best moves we've seen in a long time.
It's brilliant. It's incredible. We're talking about it for years to come and saying, wow,
welcome Kimmy Antonelli, future world champion, unbelievable. But because his teammate hasn't
given him room, he has to basically bail, and he's getting mad on the radio. So it's frustrating
because there's a running joke if you use things like Twitter a lot about kind of ethical wheel,
I think people call it, and how maybe some of the more old school drivers like Fernando Alonso and
Lewis Hamilton are a bit more fair with the fact that they give each other room and they
kind of like to swap positions back. And we don't normally see that kind of racing,
whereas nowadays this is just unfortunately the norm where people just push. It is literally like
Verstappen has changed the game for whatever you think better or worse with the the overtaking
rules because he like Michael Schumacher before him has just basically gone, okay, I will read
this rule book and now I will drive around this and what the rules are. And that's how you push
the limits. But it means that unfortunately you have these incidents where you're not getting the
side by side moments because they know they can squeeze each other and they've got run off and
things. It is a shame because I think in that situation I would love to see Kimmy be given
room because we want to see side by side action. But the drivers are always out for themselves
and they know that these rules. You can see it in that turn one incident that George breaks a
little bit earlier than Kimmy. Kimmy sort of rolls the car in a bit more as well to get alongside.
And then you can see George sort of bleed off the brakes to or at least roll the car to try and
get to the apex first to then be able to squeeze Kimmy off, which is like, ah, you know, that's
not what I want to see as racing. But that is what is Formula One these days. So did you see
as well? Sorry, did you see as well that in the big, I can't believe this is happening in the big
2026 that George's camera was facing the other way as well during that incident? So you can't
even see if he's opened the steering to do it on purpose or whatever. So we can't even,
again, that's probably not going to come with the investigation.
If I was to think back to other incidents where we've had on boards of that,
you wouldn't necessarily see that it would just be a case of more about the speed that he's carrying
just wash him wide. So I don't think we would have seen a George Russell 180 turn to the right
for Anthony to be able to give him a penalty. But I do think the stewards have seen the off-board
and gone, oh, that's fine. But the on-board looks a lot, lot closer. Let us know what you think in
whatever place you're listening. I would love to see your comments of whether that deserved the
penalty or not. But to finalize my point on this, George is getting a slap on the wrist for turn
one, in my opinion. I think Kimmy is getting a slap on the wrist for everything else he did.
And based on how he handled the situation and how he handled it, the move that he did where he
went over the grass was aggressive. And even the way he rejoined was very close to ending badly.
And then had another one on Lando. And I think he'd lost his head a little bit at that point.
I think he can kind of be quite lucky that in that incident, he only lost two points to Russell.
For sure. Yeah. And these are the moments, right? These are the moments we speak about.
These are the question marks about Antonelli and how he will cope in these big pressure moments
where maybe things don't go his way. Maybe we feel sorry for him in the sense of he should
have been given a bit more room in turn one. But it's how you bounce back from that. And thankfully
for him, P3 is not a disaster in a sprint. But I think we've written a line in the Russell versus
Antonelli law, which I'm looking forward to seeing how that one unfolds for the rest of the season.
Let's go to another question now away from the big incident. It's from Craig Tillie 95.
Is the McLaren faster in racetrack than what they let on in sprint quality?
I guess so. You still wonder how much of it is the fact that once Lando got into that kind of
boost mode, you're kind of getting a bit of a DRS train style with the boost, which
just quickly on that, I'm not going to criticize it because I actually think it was fantastic
racing to watch them close. It felt like they were close. I understand if you watch that and
maybe you feel the frustrations of, oh, they're not passing each other. But I think it's a lot
more exciting to have them racing that close for lap after lap and knowing that there is a genuine
opportunity to overtake, then it just being kind of a slam dunk pass with DRS. So yeah, McLaren,
I think this was just the fact that Lando kind of, because they left them for dead,
like they left Lando for dead at the start. It was crazy how much the Mercedes checked out. And I
think before they started fighting, we were talking on the watch line, weren't we, of going
seasons over, between two mercs, they're miles clear. We're kind of getting vibes of Bahrain
2014 where Hamilton and Rosberg fought and they were miles quicker than the field.
But as soon as Antonelli and Russell kind of squabbled, it brought Lando into it and then he
could stick with them. And I think, you know, to give Lando in particular his credit, like he was
absolutely fantastic that race had amazing pace. And again, for the second weekend in a row,
has looked very, very quick and able to fight for a win. I think he deserves a huge amount
of credit for the way Lando drove. He looked very, very quick. Yeah, I agree. I think that
when we get to, I mean, literally a few hours time for qualifying, but the race tomorrow more
specifically, Mercedes should have an edge when we actually look at the tyres that the team started
on as well. Antonelli and Russell were on six lap old mediums starting the race, whereas everyone
around them were on fresh mediums. I am wondering whether those laps that the two Mercedes drivers
had done previously almost aided them at the start of the race, you know, enabled them to build a
bit of tyre temperature better. Because remember as well, Canada this weekend, they're struggling a
little bit more to get the tyre temperature in. So I do wonder if that was a factor in terms of
actually an advantage for Mercedes in that initial phase. But then as we got later on, of course,
with Kimmy fighting hard, locking up aggressively, you're then getting to a stage where Lando was
bedded in his tyres and has fresher tyres, so had the advantage in sort of maybe the two-thirds
of that sprint race. So I am interested to see when we get to Sunday, everybody's got the same
sort of tyre age, what the gap will be. I think Mercedes do have an advantage, but I don't think
it's anywhere near as big as maybe we had been scared of. So that's a positive. And although it
is a short lap, and ideally, it wouldn't be seven tenths of a lap anyway because of how short the
lap is, the fact that it might be one or two tenths is promising. So fingers crossed Mercedes aren't
just romping clear on Sunday, especially when Antonelli and Russell are side by side for one
corner and then one of them's pushed off. Let's go to another question. Be on page, remember grubbly.
Are cars that can follow closely for a long period of time a good omen for tomorrow's race?
Yes, I think so. Firstly, I want to say that it felt like Formula One, similar to Miami, in the
sense of there weren't many times I was wondering about lack of battery, super clipping, et cetera,
et cetera. There was a moment where Lando lost a heap of time going over the start finish line,
which was where Antonelli was right on the back of him. I think that was the only time where
I properly noticed of like, oh, God, yeah, no, they do have a big old battery in these cars,
don't they? But apart from that, the boost I think worked to a degree. The fact that there were three
cars is sort of like a bad amount. If you want to have racing, it'll be just Antonelli and Russell
like we saw earlier on in the race. When it's three and perhaps where you have a slightly slower car
in the middle, that's when you get this sort of the boost train. So if we do have two closer
matched cars or two teammates, then I think we'll get better racing, maybe even a bit more yo-yoing,
which I don't mind if they're side by side and fighting into hairpins and stuff like that.
Cool, all good. So yeah, I'm really excited for Sunday's race. And if we have a sprinkling in
the air as well, as I throw to you, Tommy, I'm going to check the weather, then we could be in
for a banger. I hope so, because yeah, that was an unbelievable sprint. I do worry the fact that,
you know, had we get the same with Mercedes and if Toto's told them both off, they kind of lie in
the stern and maybe not taking risks is what kind of made that race so great where it bought the
McLaren into it. But even like further down the order, you had eyes of litter, which makes
think it's like 90% chance. Sorry, I just looked at this. This is Montreal BBC weather. So I'm
assuming reasonably, I don't know how far the circuit is away from Montreal centre, which is
maybe where this weather forecast is basing it from. But I'm looking and from 9am all the way
through to 9pm, apart from maybe one hour where it's at 78% chance of rain, it's in the 90s and
100s. So unless the circuit is 200 miles away from where Montreal is measured here for BBC weather,
then it's light rain and a gentle breeze. So we could have a very different Sunday.
Yeah, I mean, it would be a completely different scenario if it rains, which is good.
I take it because my God, Max was just nowhere that race, speaking of, you know, very much
in the fourth best car, just kind of miles clear of the midfield, but unable to challenge for the
kind of top positions. But rain would be fascinating. I think talking about how the cars can follow
closely, I think that is very nice. Hope it continues. Of course, it's early in the regulations,
and I've already been reading about how teams have been trying loop holes and things that makes
it harder to follow already. But fingers crossed, you know, it continues because it was great to see
essentially three cars be able to follow half a second. Like it was exciting to watch,
even if they weren't overtaking, just having essentially like the three leaders just
pushing flat out, you know, just going for it. It was awesome.
Certainly was another question from P1Patreon member Sophie.
A Cadillac in P12? Is Checo the superior Cadillac driver now?
Yes. Well, he actually finished P11 on the road, and then 14th.
Yeah, exactly. He got a penalty. Have you seen the incident?
So it's with Perez and his old buddy, Liam Lawson, who have got history.
And Lawson tries to go, kind of goes for that move where he's kind of got a good run on him
into the chicane, and Perez just goes, see you later.
The squeeze.
The squeeze, which Perez is a very aggressive driver anyway, but I think that's his history.
Yeah, it's history there. That aside, though, Perez has done a fantastic job this year and needs,
you know, his plaudits because he has taken that Cadillac into really, really strong positions.
And I am going to say that everyone that just slandered me for daring to say that he'd be
even remotely good this year, you can all apologize because he's done a really, really good job.
And I think I never slandered you. I just defended my goat, Bottas.
No, it's fine. Like, yeah, yeah, people were just so just couldn't believe that Perez could
possibly do a decent job. And he's done a very good job so far. So yeah, I think I think it's
a good omen for Cadillac. I think Bottas will get there as well. And I think their progress that
they've made already is really, you know, a huge amount of credit, the fact that Perez could be
up there fighting the other teams. Yes, he was on the soft tyre.
Made it work.
He made it work. He did make it work. And I thought all year, maybe even if Aston catch up,
Cadillac would just be too far from that midfield. They're in the midfield. They're fighting them.
It's great to see.
For sure. I'm interested to see if they can translate that to a Sunday Grand Prix where,
you know, strategy gets involved and that sort of stuff. But yeah, Perez did a brilliant job.
Absolutely phenomenal to be running in P11, fighting off all the drivers, obviously squeezing
loss and causing a penalty, which put him down to 14th. But overall, really, really solid from Perez.
And it's exciting times for Cadillac. It really is. To see this improvement,
five races in is amazing work from the entire team. So it's awesome to see.
Another question. P1P, remember Anastasia W.
Did the TV director forget how to direct after all these breaks?
The start of the race feels messier than usual.
My, I guess, criticism was that there was some weird choices of camera angles.
I will say that. I don't know how much the director has a choice of which camera to take
from certain cars. But of course, the Russell rear camera choice was obviously because they
thought that they could just monitor Antonelli behind. And then, sadly, we then had an instant
out of it so we couldn't see exactly what Russell was up to at the apex from inside the car.
We saw a double mini box, which, to be honest with you, I'm not going to go off on one because
they are trying things that we've asked for ages, right? So as much as there were moments to improve,
like that there was a time where I genuinely think we were both screaming about why are we
looking at this? We should be looking at the leaders. But at the same time, the fact that they
have implemented replays with a live box, that's what we've asked for for ages, they're now
implementing it. Yes, there are times when we'd rather have the big box being live, especially
when it was Antonelli flying over the grass. And that sort of stuff. So I'm not going to go off
on one because I know where we were and where we are now. But yeah, there's still things to iron out.
But it's because it's a crazy sprint race. So I am forgiving when we have action happening left,
right and centre. We have the top three separated by a second. We have the next three separated by
a second and a half. So overall, I still left the entire experience feeling very happy.
Agreed. I'll start with the bad and end with the good. So we end on a nice positive note.
As soon as this is the final question, the bad was, unfortunately, the desperation to show
replays too quickly. This is something they've done with start replays. But how quickly they
decided to throw to the incident, which I get is a massive incident between Antonelli and Russell.
But the fact that they were still racing each other, and then we had the second incident in
a mini box because they were showing a replay of the first. I'm sorry, if you missed it.
And, you know, you can watch it later. Just it happens like people should be watching live
sport and you should be watching and, you know, we saw it, we all saw it live. And they can show
replay later replays are important. So that was quite frustrating. I think they need to get
a bit less trigger happy on the replays. But I will echo what you said in the improvements that
they've made have been much better. The fact that, you know, they know that when they're showing
start replays, let's see the main action in a mini box, double mini box, because there's so much
action now in Formula One is absolutely insane. How are we at that level where in the last year,
nothing happened past turn one. And now we're getting two mini box boxes during a sprint of
all things. I will say that the double mini box was the same fight. Let's not say they were showing
up and down, you know, the order and stuff. So yeah, they have got a lot better at it with
understanding a few little moments here and there. But it's definitely not easy. And I can
sympathize with them just because of how damn good that sprint was and how much action was going on
all the time. Although I will say, you know, one pretty stern criticism for me is that we
didn't see enough Lance Stroll on boards. So if they could up that for next time, because we're
still wondering whether Lance is going to make it out for sprint quality. So that's a running joke
from the watch long. So anyway, that is it, everybody. We will be live, well, literally now
maybe whenever this goes out, because we have to watch it all for main qualifying, which is another
podcast. If you want to listen to more Matt and Tommy, then that'll be coming your way as well
as of course tomorrow, the Canadian Grand Prix live on Twitch and YouTube. Come and join us there.
And of course, every bit of content straight after as well. Tommy, final thoughts, please.
Final thoughts are that I wish we were having another race immediately, even though qualifying
will be be great. But I need to see Antonelli and Russell going wheel to wheel again immediately.
So yeah, bring on quality there at least. Sign me up. We will see you very soon.
Lots of love. Take care. Bye.
About this episode
The P1 crew reacts to the Canadian GP sprint, praising the wheel-to-wheel action while debating why some incidents weren’t investigated and how penalties hinge on tiny margins. They break down onboard vs off-board evidence, inside vs outside apex measurement rules, and how camera angles can change what looks “ahead.” They also discuss sprint pacing—DRS/boost trains, tire temperature, and battery effects—plus broadcast gripes about replay timing and “mini box” cuts. Sunday’s strategy and possible rain are set up as the next big variables.
We've waited a long time for a truly controversial moment this F1 season... and we've finally had it! Join us as we recap one of the best sprint races ever.
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