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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy. Italian
Grand Prix Monza has arrived. I am so excited for this one, a little bit more excited for this one
after what I've seen unfolding before my eyes in Friday practice. If you literally go watch or
listen to the predictions episode a couple of days ago, it was all done. It was all dusted.
Championship's done. But now we're so back. It only takes one free practice session for
you to believe again, although two actually, because they were very good of course,
FP1 Ferrari and in FP2. And I hope this isn't baiting us because if we get a grid or just a
qualifying session as close as it was in FP2, my God, it's going to be a good quality.
Oh, yes, please. Now, before we dive into everything that happened today in practice,
want to mention the delusion tour, which we have launched new shows for the Australia Tour
in 2026. That's right. So not only are we doing the shows we've already announced,
we've put more in because we've sold out three venues already. So we have added the 5th of May
Adelaide. Now, if you are from Adelaide and you messaged us saying, oh my God, I can't believe
you didn't come to Adelaide and you don't buy a ticket, just we'll see you later.
If we sell five tickets to Adelaide, like come on, we had so many messages. So there it is.
5th of May Adelaide Norwood Concert Hall, sorry. 6th of May Melbourne National Theatre,
a new show on the 6th of May. Then the 7th is sold out. The 9th of May Sydney Seymour Centre,
that is a matinee. So we're going to be doing two shows in one day, Tommy. The first time we've
ever done that on the 9th of May at the Seymour Centre. And then finally Brisbane sold out
on the 11th and the 13th of May Perth at the Astor Theatre. Right, let's get into some
free practice and start with FP1, where the top two were Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc.
That's all I'm reading out because that is all you need to know, although two fair colour signs
was third, all Ferrari drivers at some point in their careers. I saw this and I thought,
oh wait, you're probably going to imagine what I thought. Oh my God, why did I not back to
Ferrari. But also I saw the speed traps and went, that's a front page. That's a front
pager right there. They've turned the wick up here. They want to do something special for the Italian
newspapers. So I kind of reigned it back a little bit. But also it's good enough for me.
That shows that there is some performance there.
They definitely did show there was some performance there. I mean, they've got the
headline now with the 1-2. They were half a second clear, of course. But yeah,
it did feel like a bit of a glory run, to be honest. But we've gone into FP2 and they've still
also looked strong and up there. I did take it with a pinch of salt, just that the fact that
McLaren was 6th and 16th. That to me, I know it's very easy to jump on. Oh, McLaren aren't
good around here. Well, considering one of the drivers wasn't even a full-time driver as well,
it's hard to really ascertain. Yeah, we didn't get the Alex Dunn masterclass where we all go.
How good is that, McLaren, when Alex Dunn pops it in like a P3 or something, but not this time,
he was 16th, of course. So one moment happened where I thought all my dreams were collapsing
before my eyes and it was Charles Leclerc and the fact that he overtook a Sauber under
red flags. But thankfully, no further action, at least thankfully for all Ferrari and Charles
Leclerc fans out there. I saw it immediately and was like, oh no, he's just passed somebody and he
set the fastest first sector. You could not put more attention on yourself as a driver to the
stewards with something like that. But when you actually watch the replay, the closing speed
is massive. Charles Leclerc's on a flying lap. I can't remember who he was passing.
It was a Sauber. I can't remember which Sauber. But it was a Sauber going pretty slowly,
not on a lap anyway. And then of course, slowing down even more when the red flags were flown.
So some people might be thinking this was definitely a penalty. Can't believe it. But for me,
I don't really know how he could have reacted any quicker. Like as much as a red flag comes out,
there has to be some level of, well, let's give a human time to react first to what has
happened. It has to be quick, of course. We've had multiple incidents over the course of
this year where drivers have continued on. I think Ollie Berman in Monaco was one of them,
just continued on, drove past a car and it's a slam dunk. But for this, they would have analysed
the massive speed difference between the two cars, the distance and obviously the time
for Charles to react. And they deemed it within the rules, which I obviously whole-heartedly
agree with. I do agree it shouldn't have been a penalty, but I also do think he is very
fortunate not to get one. Because while I think common sense has prevailed here and they
have basically seen the incident and yeah, the fact that the red flag has come out within a second
and immediately he has slammed the brakes on within instantly as soon as he could. And he
himself even said, you know, I slammed the brakes on as quick as I could. And the only
reason I ever took was because of the closing speed. So I get it. Also at the same time,
we have seen things in the past where the stewards and the FIA have just basically gone,
well, rules are rules and they've basically just gone, well, you actually overtook. And
I am glad they have let common sense prevail. But I also understand that, you know, if you're an
Ollie Berman fan or Ollie Berman himself is probably going a bit like, oh, so you don't
give it now. That's a different incident though. That's a different incident in my eyes because
Ollie Berman chose to overtake a slow car because he thought it was the safest thing to do.
Charles Leclerc had zero opportunity to slow down to stop himself from passing.
I think if I think if the Ollie Berman incident, he hadn't said a word,
I think you'd say it's harsh. But the fact that I think he I think Ollie Berman unfortunately
did kind of stuck itself. Yeah, yeah, he stuck himself in the mud by saying I chose to
overtake. Whereas I think he could have had the excuse that Charles did of basically going,
well, I hit the brakes as soon as I saw it and there's a car going incredibly slowly next to me.
So yeah, it's thankfully, of course, nothing doing because I wouldn't have wanted to be the
Stuart that penalized another Ferrari at Monza with the potential grid penalty.
Ferrari international assistance coming in again as some people used to say many years ago,
back when Ferrari won, which was so long ago now. And then of course, as you mentioned,
McLaren were baiting us in free practice, one little bit, Alex Dunn. I know a few of you that
came to our P1 live shows were asking, so Alex Dunn, what do you think? Are you excited?
Mainly Irish people actually that came to our live shows like, oh, is he going to be on the
grid and things like this? And yeah, there wasn't that sort of highlight performance
this time around for Alex. I think they did give him a pretty good opportunity to just
go for a run, gave him soft tyres. It wasn't like a four or five second a lap off
runs that we've seen in the past for rookies going into top teams.
But that being said, it was a strange free practice one anyway with the fact that
you had the two Ferraris so far clear, but only half a second off Lando.
Yeah, it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad from Dunn, for sure, to jump in, do a solid job again.
Unfortunately for him, and this is something like we did mention in our live shows and
have mentioned before that unfortunately for someone like Alex Dunn, even if he ends up
winning Formula Two this year, he's kind of missed the boat full of rookies that have
gone on their way to Formula One. And it does feel like we might need a bit more of a reset
in maybe a couple of years when we see the likes of maybe a driver retiring or another team
maybe making a big call like a Max Verstappen moving and then launching that domino effect
again. But everything seems pretty locked in. And of course Cadillac going for
choosing like experience is another kind of seat gone for young drivers. So yeah,
it's I think it's going to be incredibly tough for Alex Dunn to get into Formula One next year
for sure. Yeah, 20-27, let's see some drivers might do badly, give them an opportunity,
but for now looks very unlikely. Free practice two. Lando Norris was ahead of Charles Leclerc
and Carlos Sainz. Carlos in the top three in both practice sessions. Tommy's like Carlos will score
some points and he's looking like he's going to be on the podium at this rate. So let's get
straight into a question from P1 Patriot member captain of 3420. Is the Williams hype train in
full force? They know what they're doing, Williams. They're on the run up to it and even
I guess yesterday, don't expect us to be good at Monza just because we've been good at Monza
the last few years. We're a different team now. We're a baseline team. We're good at all tracks.
We don't go for just the straight line speed ones. And then lo and behold,
they look incredibly quick once again around Monza. I think the hype train is in full force.
I don't think it's in full force for a third place for Carlos necessarily,
but they could easily get in the mix of the top four teams. Mercedes have had a pretty
big stinker of a first, well, of a Friday to be honest, not even just one of the practice
sessions, both practice sessions there. George Russell, of course, having that problem in FP1
having to pull over. And yeah, Williams could easily be staring down the barrel of
P6, perhaps I want to say, like behind the two McLarens, two Ferraris, and then of course, Max.
Mercedes look vulnerable to potentially a Williams surge this weekend.
They do. Yeah, at the moment, obviously, it's only Friday, but two of our predictions have
aged very well on a Friday of my good surprise Carlos Sainz and your big flop Mercedes. We'll
talk about Mercedes in a bit, of course, but Carlos Sainz amazing performance, you know,
part of that prediction was not just the fact that Williams are good around here, but also Carlos
Sainz has had that experience with Ferrari. He's kind of himself has gasped himself up,
and I think fairly to basically say, look, I bought all this experience from Ferrari. I know,
and this is part of the reason why James Valls kind of took him on board as well,
all that experience, all the know how from Ferrari and what he's learned in a top team.
And of course, you know, driving for McLaren as well, learned a lot there.
An experienced driver knows how to do well at Monza and has done in the past. So
I'd love to see Carlos challenging at the front because he has not had the year
that's matched his talents for sure. And Alex as well. Both drivers could
easily challenge for a really good position in qualifying, and apparently Monza,
you can't overtake these days. So perhaps that will translate into something like we saw
with Hajar only last time out. Okay, well, you mentioned Mercedes, Tommy. Let's talk about it.
Kimmy Antonelli in free practice two off the track and beached once again a Les Mo 2.
It's another mistake for Antonelli. We were speaking about how coming into Monza,
his home race, et cetera, and he's to bounce back, of course, made that mistake last time,
last year, sorry, when he had that outing and a lot of memes were made about it.
Alex, of course, you know, Turtle Wolf defended him to the hilt.
It's not helping him, is it? It's not helping him in the slightest to prepare for a weekend.
I think we say this with a lot of drivers, you can make a mistake on a Friday as long as you
bounce back on the Saturday or Sunday then, or on Sunday, obviously most importantly,
then Friday mistakes can get wiped away, but this will go into Mercedes heads,
of course, they're going to think about this of, okay, it's another mistake.
You can almost guarantee that they've said to Kimmy, let's just have a clean Friday.
Let's just build some momentum here. But yeah, once again, another mistake beached
and didn't really get much running at all on this Friday.
Yeah, very similar to Zandvoort, of course, as well, where we had that horrible
kind of end before the summer break, and then he goes into Zandvoort and he goes off in
practice there, beaches himself in the gravel, and then you're kind of going,
oh, this isn't exactly what he doesn't need, goes into the race. And as you said just then,
oh, well, you kind of give him a bit of leeway into a practice session, but then he has a
ridiculous crash that he doesn't need to have with Charlotte Claire in the race.
And then it goes into another race weekend and you think, well, in fact, actually,
if he'd have, we'd have been having a very different conversation had, we just look at
FP1, he was fifth, pretty decent. Had he just had a clean run, we'd be saying this is exactly what
he needs. But again, early in the session, we do. Do you feel like we give him a bit too much
forgiveness? Yes, I personally don't think I can anymore. And I think he deserves to be
under pressure if I take my Kimmy Antonelli hat off. Because I've seen a lot of people
kind of say, and I think this is a question they posed to Sky and no surprise, Jack Villeneuve
came back with a very blunt answer that was like, oh, well, Max the step and he was
crashing and doing all this stuff. And it's like, yeah, Max had the odd crash,
but also he wasn't off the pace as well. And that's what something Jack Villeneuve said.
And unfortunately for Kimmy Antonelli at the moment, he is far behind George Russell in the
points, in pace, and having silly accidents. So yes, I do think he is showing that high
ceiling of possibility. But I hate to say it, but I also think that we are very much seeing
that he has come in too early now. I really do think that is the case.
Come in too early at Mercedes or into Formula One itself?
Maybe even a bit of both. But definitely Mercedes, definitely Mercedes.
Yeah, he needs to up his game because we've spoken about rookies, we've spoken about there
being no room at the end. And especially a team like Mercedes, yes, Toto has invested in him.
But how long will his patients go? How long will he commit to an Antonelli? If,
you know, we have these, of course, Max isn't going to Mercedes next year.
Kimmy Antonelli stays at Mercedes for next year. Fine. If he continues this run of form,
I could see him very easily being replaced if Max comes knocking. And then this whole Russell
Verstappen partnership that everyone said there are no chance it could actually happen.
Not even 1% is now about 10.
Yeah, it is because he can't afford to keep doing this. I know he's got
time on his side and Toto's backing and he always kind of says,
oh, you know, this is what I want from Kimmy. I want him to take risks and things. That's what
he said after the incident with with Charles. But he can't afford to be having this all the time.
Because as well, every time he goes in the gravel, even in a practice session,
conversations in the media and us and podcasts and everything everywhere
will be, has Kimmy Antonelli come in too early? And however much,
you know, he's still a young guy and we know what can happen when drivers spiral. We've seen it with,
of course, the infamous second Red Bull seat. And it's very, it's tough enough for him to be
learning at Mercedes, but also as a very young age to deal with all this media pressure.
And also, you know, this this continues, he's going to be getting this question every week
now going, you know, Toto is he in too early? And he'll see all this, this stuff. And that's
where the pressure really ramps up. But that is part of Formula One. It's an elite sport. It's the
top. And that is, you know, what you have to put up with. And Mercedes isn't a racing bulls.
It's not a young talent nurturing camp. Like Mercedes have one team and they have to be
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Okay, let's move to another question. Vinnie Osborne,
should Merck do a deal with Williams and swap Kimmy with Carlos or Alex?
I mean, that is, again, I think it comes back to your point, Tommy, that you just said about,
it doesn't really matter this year. Merck don't need to go to this urgent situation where
they're fighting for the constructors title and they need a second driver.
Doing a swap with Carlos or Alex, Carlos already, those whole chats fell through anyway,
didn't they? Because they didn't want to commit to Carlos and things like that.
I don't think that that would do anything. Doing a swap, it's not as easy as that.
Merck still need to explore the Antonelli route before they give up on him.
It's not at the point where we're going, is he going to lose his seat?
We're talking about this can't carry on for the rest of the season going into next year.
This isn't even a Mercedes question, this is a Williams question, and I think
Jamie Chadwick actually said it brilliantly in the practice coverage of like,
Williams are their own team now, they're not there just to exist. And I think that's
something that James Valls has bought with that team has done by signing Alex Alban and Carlos
Sainz into that team. And yeah, it might get laughed at that they're kind of saying,
oh, we want to win the world championship. And that would would be insane. It'd be a big stretch.
But they want to be their own team and perform. They're not there just to exist. Like,
Williams are not the racing bulls of Mercedes. They maybe were in the past when George Russell
was there and they could put George Russell in and make him learn and see what he can do.
And they weirdly knew that he was good enough and they couldn't actually get him in as early as
they wanted to. But with Williams, they're now, you know, it's not it's not a case of they are
just Mercedes B team that they want to do their own their own thing and perform and get their
own results. And I think they're just focused on themselves. And you've got to think it's not
just Toto could go in there and say we want to swap. But James Vowles would probably be like,
well, no, no, thank you. I want I want Carlos and Alex in my team.
And just swapping drivers in general, like it just, yeah, it would put Williams on the
back foot, giving Antonelli, who's already got no confidence, putting him into a car that is
worse. And he's had no testing. And it just it doesn't make sense, I guess, from a very
also, he then he then goes against either Alex Albin, who's having the season of his life. And
and he's going, say he goes in mid season, Alex would beat him comfortably, I think,
because it's an unfamiliar car for Kimmy Antonelli. And then he and then it's even worse
because you're getting like beaten by a Williams driver, basically, and not even, you know,
so someone like George Russell that that people obviously tipped to be like a
future world champion, or or a Carlos Sainz, who again is very experienced and will probably
beat him as well. So I don't think either party winning that scenario personally.
Absolutely not. Next question and away from Kimmy Antonelli now, P1 Patriot member Dray,
will Hamilton be able to make up those places from the grid penalty looking at his pace today?
I mean, to be fair, Tommy, I was thinking about your prediction during practice and I
went, geez, if he pulls his one off and it wasn't me that came up with this prediction, I don't know,
I think you might need to wear Ferrari for the rest of time on this podcast. I think
Hamilton is as much as obviously we came off the back of a double DNF, you know,
the sort of murmurs that's coming out of Hamilton is his confidence. It's one of,
I'm kind of getting used to the car and I am, you know, he did have strong race
pace in Zandvoort until the crash. It's possible. The only thing is that if we're looking like we're
heading towards a one-stop race because of the way that Charles Leclerc managed to win the race
last year and showed that it's better to just stay out than peer, especially around a track like
Monza, it's going to be difficult because Hamilton, I don't see him getting pole position.
I think that it'll be amazing to have a Ferrari on the front road, to be honest with
you, I still think it could well be a McLaren lockout. So the best you're looking at is third,
that's eighth on the grid. How quickly is he going to really be able to get through?
And then you stood behind two Williams with DRS training.
Yeah, the Williams is obviously going to be quick in the straight line, I'm sure,
and it's just going to be a really tough one because you've essentially,
Hamilton's got a beat, Charles Leclerc, Oscar Piastro, Orlando Norris on the road,
if we get all of them finishing. So it's going to be a difficult one,
but Hamilton has looked strong and it's good to see.
Yep, the more we talk about this, the more I think my prediction is absolutely washed and
was never going to happen, but it was all just delusion, as I said, and crazy things have happened.
You know, I mean, this is the thing, like Hadjo got a podium in the last race,
and Hülkenberg got a podium at Silverstone, like crazy things have happened this year.
And who's to say, Lando won't want to try to get his own back from last year.
They could cause a little bit of carnage in that first sector.
Exactly. So you never know, it will be incredibly difficult, and I think this just makes it,
looking at how he's done so far, it just makes it even more kind of depressing that he got that
penalty because it could, you know, say he does qualify well, like a second or third or something,
and he drops down the order will be having the conversation of what might have been if he
hadn't have had that penalty. I'm still not over that penalty. I think it's an
absolute disgrace that he's taken it into Monza. I really do. The fact that it literally was,
I know it was bad. Don't get me wrong. It was definitely a penalty. I do understand why people
are frustrated. But why are we taking so long? Like you can literally see he's going with racing
speed, just make the decision. Like this is the problem that we constantly have for the
stewards is just make a decision. You shouldn't have something where he literally didn't,
the race hadn't even started. Yeah, it's a pre race incident. Yeah. How are you giving a
penalty and retrospect for a pre race incident? Because then if he'd have finished the race,
would they have added it to his time? And it's weird, isn't it? It's such a weird concept of
circumstance. Or they may have made up the decision. But then I think they wanted to
see the telemetry from other cuts. So I think they were definitely doing it after the race,
no matter what. So yeah, it's, we love after the race penalties, don't we? We really do.
Visual treats comes in with a question. Are you guys worried for you,
after the Mekki's interview? I think it just, it says exactly what you were saying, Tommy, in
the podcast that Yuki Sonoda's seat is not safe by any stretch. I think he couldn't be in a worse
position in terms of momentum and hype because he's in the Red Bull second seat. You've got
Hadjar and Lawson that can just freely enjoy this race, this stable racing bull's car. You've
got Arvid Lindblad, who's obviously making moves outside of Formula One. Yuki is absolutely
the driver that would go if they want to promote Arvid. Yuki still has a chance to be, I mean,
sounds crazy, to be demoted to racing bulls. He still could even mount an amazing second half
of the season or less than and stay at Red Bull. I think it's unlikely. But the way in which
Laurent said that would suggest that they are absolutely evaluating not just within the
four drivers that are racing right now, but outside of it as well to fill the strongest
team because we both think that Tommy, don't mean that Red Bull are going to be struggling
anyway when we get into the regulations in 2026. The last thing they need as well is
drivers that they don't believe in. Yeah, definitely. I mean,
are you guys worried about Yuki after the Mech is into you? I was worried about him before it.
And I said on the more worried now. No, exactly the same. Like I was and still am.
If I put a number on it, I'd say 90% sure that Yuki Snow does not driving an F1 next year.
And it's tough. And it's one of those things. I was more surprised at how Ted was like,
oh, my God, I've just heard from Lauren Mechies. And he doesn't think Yuki Snow. I was like,
well, yeah, how has no one kind of connected those dots already because racing bulls are a
junior team. And Hajar is delivering brilliantly and of course is very, very
odds on favorite now to partner the staffer next year. They're also losing the Honda
aspect of a Red Bull. I just don't see how Yuki Snow to fits into their plan sadly because
yeah, it's tough. It's tough on him. And this is always the driver scenario and what a weird
situation it is where you kind of think, oh, Yuki dodged the bullet because he didn't go into the
Red Bull. Look how badly and Lawson's career is going to go. And then actually they swapped.
And then Yuki looked like the biggest winner in that. But now it's looking like Lawson's going
to actually keep his racing bulls seat because he's done a good job at racing bulls now.
And it doesn't help that it's not started to provide a good job and provide a good
results and been solid. And they want that benchmark of someone that's been in that car
for a long time now to pit that new drive, whether that's Limblad or someone against him.
So it is so harsh on Yuki because in a weird alternate reality, they don't fire Lawson straight
away as the whole season and they just kind of stick with him. And they realize it's not
really working. Yuki absolutely smashes it in the racing bulls and is amazing and does a great
job and has these great results as well. And then there'd be the conversation of
does the team want to pick him up because he's really good or does the team want to or does
racing, sorry, the Red Bull want to promote him into 2026 in a new car. But unfortunately for
Yuki, like, yeah, he's just kind of been dealt a bad hand and he's not done a great job either
if I take my Senator Fanboy hat on. It's not gone perfect for him either. He was always take it off,
sorry, take it off. If I take my Senator Fanboy hat off, he was always kind of on the back foot and
it was a poison chalice as we always say. But he's also not done amazing and had bad moments
and crashes and things. And you do wonder like, would another driver have done better? We'll
never know. But it's not looking good for you yet. And following on from that as well,
Red Bull, they need a contingency plan if Max bounces after 2026. They are very much trying
to find the next Max Verstappen in some ways. I think you'd be very lucky to find one of those.
But Arvid making those big sort of noises outside of Formula One, that's what they want to try
surely with their second team. So that's probably where Yuki will be in a bit of trouble.
Okay, next question. RSPB 25. How do you feel about Monaco being extended till 2035?
Yay! Look, I love Saturdays at Monaco. I hate Sundays at Monaco,
apart from Monaco 2024, what best day of my life? So what to be fair, after speaking to Alex Albon
that we had a podcast recently, if you haven't gone and watched or listened to it, go and do that,
we looked at loads of tracks and we spoke about Monaco a little bit and he was saying that there
had been some really interesting discussions about how to improve Monaco. So it feels as though
changes are coming and perhaps even track changes of some description that would make Monaco
somewhat bearable. So on a Sunday, I mean, of course. So how do I feel about it? I still,
and I don't know, like the fandom level between you and me has changed over the years. I've been
like, God, get rid of it. You're like, oh my God, I love it. I watch Monaco races as I go to bed
and I'm like, yeah, of course you do. Makes it boring. But I feel like it's kind of got
closer and closer where you've fallen less in love with it and I've gone, yeah, Monaco can
stay on the calendar. It's a once in a weekend thing. It's really cool. So I feel, I feel
right about it because of the fact that I feel as though they're going to do some things
to perhaps make it better that isn't forcing a two stop with one of the most crazy,
weird things we've watched in a while. Yeah, I just find it weird that they have these
massive contract extensions into 2035. I mean, the AI robots will have taken over then and
driving around the Monaco Grand Prix itself. So who knows how the Monaco Grand Prix will be in 2035?
It's a long way off, but it's a, they'd already extended that deal anyway to 2031,
I think it was. So to then have, you do wonder if they've, is this a signal that they've pushed
something through? So it was already at 2031? It was, yeah. So they announced this big kind
of extension and everyone kind of went, oh, this is crazy. And then they've added another four years
on. So have they just added four years on for the Lolls or has these, these track changes have been
approved and we go, we think this has worked now. Well, if we're going to change Monaco,
we want to stay for at least nine years. Yeah. And you do wonder like Monaco,
whoever is in charge of that, you know, the principle. They haven't got a lot of Monaco
as well. So you've got to feel for them. You've got to feel for them. But it's true that maybe,
maybe that is the case where they said, you know, if you're going to build a new area just for the
Formula One. Yeah. Well, and we want, you know, we are luxury flats. This is what we want. We
don't care about the race. We've seen the blueprints. We have that. It's actually a nine
kilometre circuit. It's the longest on the calendar now. Yeah. Goes all the way to Nice.
And I've actually, I've even found another theory. Hold on. This Friday practice
part is popping off right now. We are literally that guy on the board with the conspiracy
theorists because I've thought of something else. Charles Leclerc said he's moving house.
And he also said Fernando Alonzo is moving house. They're knocking down flats here.
I reckon that they're, they're knocking them down for this.
I genuinely thought you were going to come up with something really big. Then you're like,
they're knocking down flats. If they're moving out, I reckon, yeah, they're bulldozing places.
And this is why they said 2035, you can knock down six building, one building per year of the
contract to make it happen. We'll knock it down, make some room for your, you know,
an extra straight and a hairpin so people can actually overtake.
Wow. I think we've figured it out. I think we've figured it out.
Unbelievable scenes. You can't outsmart us, F1. We know what's happening.
Yeah. We will see. We will see. Come back to it when we go to Monaco next year and nothing's
changed. Right. That is it. Thank you everybody for listening to this rather beefy Friday
practice podcast. We'll be live on Twitch and YouTube error free. We will be so
beautifully streaming from tomorrow. I promise you, all right? It is linked up ready to go.
So come and join us for the watch alongs for both qualifying and the race, as I say on
Twitch and YouTube. Remember as well, new dates for our Australia tour in 2026. The tickets
flew off the shelves. If you want to come along, get your tickets. And Tommy, what are
your final thoughts? My final thoughts are, yeah, get your tickets now while you still can.
Adelaide, you've got to wait till Tuesday, but you better have added it to bookmarks
because you've got a lot of messages about it. And if you're in Monaco, you might want to move
out because apparently Tommy said your flat's getting bulldozed. Exactly. Yeah. There you go.
For the P1 life. No, we're not doing a P1 live show.
It's the P1 live show at Monaco. You're free people. All right. Bye. Bye.
But Charlotte Clair would come.
Love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God. Chore. I just said, yeah. I just sung. Oh, wow.
The chore, the chore is, the chore is, the chore is to pray to create a Ferrari shrine that we get
pulled tomorrow. And hopefully Charlotte Clair because we don't need a grid penalty on the
front row. Come on. Let's, let's get Charlotte Clair, Paul. Come on.
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About this episode
Matt and Tommy dive into the Italian Grand Prix practice sessions, highlighting Ferrari's strong performance and the surprising pace of Williams. They discuss Charles Leclerc's controversial overtake under red flags, Kimmy Antonelli's struggles at Mercedes, and the challenges rookie Alex Dunn faces breaking into F1. The hosts also speculate on driver swaps, Hamilton's grid penalty impact, and Yuki Tsunoda's uncertain future at Red Bull. They touch on Monaco's contract extension and potential track changes, while teasing their upcoming Australia tour shows. The episode blends race analysis with candid driver assessments and fan questions.
Join us for perhaps the most intriguing practice pod of the season, as we talk through a mixture of good, bad and sheer Ferrari delusion!
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