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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. I'm just going to
02:22
straight up say it before I have comments saying, Matt, you look unwell. Yes, I am.
02:26
I'm very unwell right now. I have slept for about two hours.
02:30
I'm supposed to sleep for FP1, catch up on that, couldn't get to sleep. So I actually
02:34
watched the end of FP1, which I said I wasn't going to do in predictions,
02:38
and then I couldn't get back to sleep. So we watched three practice too as well.
02:41
Just to cover that all off, I feel horrendous, but I still turn up for
02:44
Formula One and for the P1 podcast. Tommy, you're the energetic one today.
02:48
I'm the backseat. So over to you. You're the presenter for this one.
02:52
Energetic as much as I can be at this time of the morning, but
02:57
yeah, an unusual day of running in Vegas again. Problems that continued from the first
03:04
year, which is probably going to be the thing that is the biggest talking point of the day.
03:09
Lots of problems at Las Vegas to keep us certainly on our toes. Let's start with
03:14
free practice one, where Leclerc was fastest from Alexander Albon and Yuki Sonoda.
03:22
The thing that I sort of gathered from this, there wasn't any big issues or big moments
03:28
necessarily, but there are a lot of mistakes, if you can call a moment a mistake, I guess you can.
03:34
Where drivers are just not able to spot their breaking point, struggling with tire temp,
03:39
and yeah, plenty of mistakes out there. They're not really punished so much around Vegas
03:44
because there is so much runoff area where they can just bail out, which I like and also
03:50
don't like because I like the fact that there's repercussions and that drivers have to find the
03:54
limit without going over it around some tracks. But I guess on the flip side of that, if we'd
03:59
had closer walls and no runoff, then we probably wouldn't get any action whatsoever because
04:04
of the, of course, cold conditions, what time they run these sessions at, it makes for a
04:12
rather difficult driving experience right now. It does. Yeah, they were finding the limits.
04:17
You get a lot of, it is basically a session where everyone's just locking up
04:24
so many lockups, everyone going deep into runoff areas.
04:29
And that's about really all that happened in FP1. There wasn't a huge amount of action.
04:37
And then we went into FP2 thinking, okay, now we're going to get to see some lap times and
04:42
things, but of course, as we'll get into that also got interrupted. So very strange, strange day.
04:50
Spoiler alert, Tommy, we're not on free practice too yet and you've already gone and dropped the
04:54
bombshell. Well, look, I wasn't ill and up for FP1. So all I know from the highlights video
05:01
is that there were some new liveries. You always notice a good session when they reel
05:05
that one out the stuff. Yeah, you know, when Alex Jakes seems fed up to do the
05:09
voiceover that you know it's not the best highlights. But when it starts with
05:14
there's some new helmets on the grid, you're like, okay, I know where it's going.
05:19
It's been a ball fest. But thankfully, I guess for the fans, they actually saw
05:22
running throughout FP1 and FP2. Well, ish, we'll go on to FP2 shortly. But I think there's
05:28
something that we noticed in free practice one, maybe not so in FP2 or perhaps with the
05:33
results in FP2, it sort of looks better for them. McLaren, of course, you know, sixth and eighth in
05:39
free practice one and Lando specifically was making a lot of mistakes out there. A lot of times he
05:44
was snatching the break and it looked like McLaren were struggling quite a lot after that first
05:50
practice session, although they have by the sounds of it skinnied down their rear wing
05:56
for FP2 to try and find a bit more pace. At least that's what I heard unless I literally
06:02
had a fever dream and that was Ted Kravitz telling me in my two hours of sleep that I've had.
06:07
But that's free practice one wrapped up and done and dusted. Let's go to FP2 where
06:13
Lando Norris was fastest ahead of Antonelli and Leclerc, but it was heavily interrupted.
06:18
We sort of it's kind of such a terrible time to have had the problems with the manhole cover
06:24
because you do this sort of 45 minute warm up for then the final 15 minutes of chaos and
06:31
soft tyres and fast running, representative running as we like to call it. And that was the
06:37
moment where they flew not just one red flag, but two red flags in the last 15 minutes and
06:44
basically as much as Norris is fastest at the end of FP2. I don't think that tells the picture
06:49
at all with Charles Leclerc third. I know his gearbox broke. Shut up. But on the medium
06:55
tyres, he's in for Paul. Come on, talk to me. Yeah, it's very bizarre that basically we've
07:05
gone into this weekend. It's the most unpredictable session. We mentioned in predictions that how
07:10
hard it is to kind of know the pecking order. And weirdly, we've ended up with the same top
07:16
two that we've had in the last two competitive sessions with Norris and Antonelli. But that
07:20
doesn't tell the whole picture because of this drain cover issue or reported drain cover issue.
07:27
Of course, it was very confusing. A lot of the drivers were confused at why this red flag had
07:31
actually come out at first. But my initial thought was, how has this happened? Because
07:38
we thought we'd got on top of this. Obviously, what happened in the very first practice
07:44
session we had here back in 2023, it was okay. This could be an absolute disaster of a race.
07:51
It was already a lot of talk about how it was going to be a nightmare. And actually,
07:56
the rest of the weekend was fine. Last year was great as well. And you thought this problem
08:02
had gone. And as you mentioned, it's like the worst time for it to happen because it was just
08:07
as we're about to get the running, we're about to get to see who's doing what. And this
08:12
is where all the action's happening. And then it didn't just happen once. We thought,
08:16
you know, once it happened, we thought, at least we're getting a five minute shootout now.
08:20
And then it happened again. It did. Yes. Also worth mentioning at the start of the session,
08:25
there was drizzle, there was a slightly slippery start to free practice too as well.
08:32
But yeah, Norris fastest. Yeah, the track isn't underwater like that viral
08:35
video that went around on Instagram that everyone thought was gonna be.
08:38
A lot of people thought F1's cancelled. It's done. It's in the bin. Vegas,
08:43
we're going to skip this weekend. Now, if you actually looked at the weather forecast,
08:46
you could see that it was going to brighten up and be a lot better come the weekend.
08:52
So yeah, free practice too. Let's get into a question from Grady underscore Ripple.
08:57
How many drain covers can we expect to impede the race?
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I would like to say none after the Carlos signs massive incident a couple of years ago,
09:09
which thankfully he was fine as much as there was a lot of damage to the car.
09:14
You know, with that happening, of course, there was a lot of uproar,
09:17
a lot of criticism to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
09:21
And to be honest, yes, it has happened. Yes, there's been concerns about track
09:25
maintenance and things like that and these becoming loose.
09:28
But I also on the flip side sort of commend how they've gone about it.
09:33
There was a report from a marshal. They clearly vary on it in terms of if there is
09:38
something that goes wrong, they make the call and they have to step in.
09:43
So on that side, we've not had a catastrophic incident that is now
09:47
meaning we're talking about it. But that being said, it's a very high speed track.
09:53
It's, you know, there's two parts of it for me, really.
09:56
There's the one side where it goes, okay, they've obviously tried to do as much
10:00
as they can to prepare themselves for Formula One cars.
10:04
But then on the flip side of that, how do you actually test these manhole covers?
10:11
Without Formula One cars flying out of the back of the house now?
10:13
Yeah, you can't have the suction of the ground effect Formula One cars
10:17
until you're there. That's not an excuse. Don't get me wrong.
10:20
But I can sort of understand why these things can happen.
10:24
But look, there's going to be a big investigation throughout the whole of,
10:28
I guess, tomorrow now, because it's nighttime in Vegas or maybe even overnight.
10:32
So I don't think it will impact the race.
10:35
I really hope not because we thought this problem was basically squashed after what happened in
10:41
FP1 two years ago and it hasn't resurfaced until now.
10:48
It is a worry that it's happened again because, yeah, it's a very scary thing to happen.
10:55
It was a very close call back in 2023.
10:59
And we have seen it before, you know, it is not just Vegas.
11:03
We've had some street tracks in the past that have had these problems.
11:08
But what is worrying is the fact that it's happened and it happened twice by the look of it.
11:15
Is it just a case in practice where they're being super cautious and it is like almost
11:21
a marshal watching it like a hawk and the slightest bit of movement and they're like,
11:24
okay, we need to just make sure this doesn't happen again.
11:29
But please let's not have a four qualifying session where it's constant red flags and
11:36
things because however much it would make it fun for maybe a mixed up grid and things,
11:42
it's not what we need or want for the spectators and things.
11:47
We don't want a four hour qualifying session and to be honest with you,
11:50
you know, we're judging this on hearsay.
11:52
We're judging it on the hearsay, but in the fact that like we don't have it confirmed
11:57
that there was a manhole just loose and just hanging out.
12:01
It could be a very small weakness in it, which is what the marshal was called in
12:05
and they're being overly cautious, which I think is the correct way of going about it.
12:09
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12:12
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Next question and away from drain covers as you'll be very pleased to hear.
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P1Patreon member Patrick, have McLaren been overlooked this weekend?
17:47
Maybe. Obviously, we predicted that they were going to be terrible.
17:52
I said McLaren, of course, to my predictions, you said Landon Orris.
17:55
They have struggled.
17:56
I do think that if you've woken up or wherever you are in the world
18:01
and you've just tuned in and seen that Lando is fastest,
18:04
you just would assume, oh, same old situation.
18:08
But they were struggling.
18:11
Lando was trying to find the limit, making a lot of mistakes, lockups, things like that.
18:20
But then we go into, you actually look at that session
18:24
and it was interrupted at the final part.
18:28
So we didn't get to see more people doing quick laps.
18:30
Antonelli, of course, very, very close behind and George Russell was actually on a very quick lap
18:36
that was probably going to go even faster.
18:38
So I don't actually think McLaren are the strongest just because Lando is fastest here.
18:46
No, I completely agree.
18:47
I think that if you just, and I don't blame you, by the way,
18:50
if you live in Europe and you didn't really watch Free Practice
18:53
because they're on pretty unsociable hours.
18:57
When you look at it on paper, you go, oh, Lando fastest,
19:00
but it does not tell the story in the slightest.
19:02
The fact that we had those red flags at a really crucial point of the hot laps
19:06
and the fact as well, massive track evolution around Vegas.
19:10
So it almost felt like a wet to dry session
19:13
where it's just the next person over the line will go quicker,
19:15
will go quicker, will go quicker.
19:16
And Lando was one of those drivers to set one of the last lap times
19:20
before we had the problems.
19:22
I mean, you've got Nika Holkenberg up there in P4.
19:24
So, you know, there's a lot, no disrespect to Nika.
19:27
He's had a podium this year,
19:29
but I think there's a lot more to be said.
19:31
And as I said earlier on, Charles Leclerc,
19:33
third fastest on the mediums.
19:35
So let's not discount that because I genuinely feel
19:40
like Ferrari may well be the quickest car at least from Friday.
19:44
I think over one lap, they absolutely have a chance
19:47
of fighting for pole position tomorrow.
19:49
You know, maybe that is Hopium, but sign me up.
19:53
You guys have missed this.
19:54
It's been a while since I've actually believed
19:56
that Ferrari could get a good result.
19:58
And I don't think I'm being delusional, Tommy.
20:02
Lewis Hamilton, yes, he finished 10th in FP2,
20:05
but he was also setting very fast lap times throughout the session.
20:09
But just towards the end, before we had the interruptions,
20:13
he wasn't able to put one together in time.
20:16
Yeah, they looked quick Ferrari.
20:18
I do think weirdly, you know, look at the order from FP2
20:22
and you wouldn't take this away,
20:24
but it is looking weirdly kind of what we expected,
20:28
where Ferrari, particularly in Charlotte Clair,
20:30
hands are looking very quick.
20:31
What we expected or what I expected and put down.
20:34
Well, no, I was going to, I was actually,
20:35
if you want to finish my point,
20:37
I was going to say Ferrari and Mercedes.
20:39
I heard Ferrari slander and I immediately came to the defence.
20:41
No, no, don't worry.
20:42
No, I actually, you know, we'll get onto that later.
20:45
But Ferrari and Mercedes, yeah, looking very strong,
20:50
which are the two that we've said
20:51
have kind of haven't been there as much.
20:54
Obviously, it's been a season of,
20:56
yeah, Mercedes have had their moments and Ferrari less so.
21:00
But they've got, you know, McLaren have been dominant.
21:03
Max has had some great results as well
21:06
and also like found himself in the championship
21:09
Whereas I think this race is that difference
21:12
where the Ferraris and the Mercedes can compete more.
21:16
And I think even though, you know,
21:19
we end this day with landing our fastest,
21:22
I do think that the Mercedes and Ferrari
21:25
looking very, very quick.
21:26
So I don't think McLaren are going to be
21:28
jumping from the rooftops thinking
21:30
we've absolutely sorted our vagus curse
21:33
and, you know, we're going to win the race easily
21:35
like we've had the last two.
21:37
No, they look more competitive
21:39
than perhaps we sort of thought coming into this weekend.
21:43
I don't think you can discount them
21:45
from fighting for a podium.
21:46
But I still also feel quite confident
21:48
in my crazy prediction
21:50
and the fact that McLaren could well not be on the podium.
21:55
Question from P1Patreon member LGD.
21:57
Lando P1, Oscar P14 in free practice too.
22:02
Look, let's go back to what we just said.
22:04
OK, relax everybody.
22:06
I love as well that these questions have come in
22:10
which makes me hope that these people have watched the session.
22:14
The red flags have made a massive, massive impact here.
22:17
I think Oscar maybe looks slightly off Lando again,
22:24
but it's hard to tell, right?
22:26
Because we get all that long run.
22:27
We're not long running,
22:28
but we get the build-up laps.
22:29
We get the medium tire runs and things like that.
22:31
And then we kind of get baited into thinking
22:36
we're going to see the fast laps and then we didn't.
22:38
So Oscar, not the greatest thing to write home
22:42
about in free practice.
22:42
Two in free practice.
22:43
One, it felt like he was, yeah,
22:45
maybe a couple of tenths back from Lando
22:47
every sort of fast lap he attempted.
22:50
So it's not Championship done.
22:53
I think, I can't remember if I said this in the P1 live shows
22:55
or in the podcast, but it is,
22:59
the Championship is absolutely in Lando's favour here.
23:01
We haven't really spoken about Max Verstappen.
23:03
Like Max, again, had moments of looking fast
23:07
and being up there.
23:09
Of course, he hasn't topped either session,
23:11
fourth in FP1 and ninth in free practice too.
23:17
Like Max needs to absolutely win and McLaren to not score
23:20
for his Championship hopes to be anywhere near alive.
23:24
I will not have people saying the broadcast,
23:26
of course, they are paid to hype up
23:28
this Formula One Championship.
23:30
But Max needs to win.
23:32
McLaren need to not score.
23:34
And that doesn't look likely at the moment.
23:36
So when we're asking ourselves about Championship done,
23:38
of course, I'm thinking now between Lando and Oscar
23:41
and it kind of works in Lando's favour in some ways
23:43
if McLaren aren't that fast because Oscar then
23:46
may not be able to challenge for the win or second or third
23:49
if he gets his mojo back.
23:51
But there's only a limitation to the car
23:53
that he can score 12 points
23:54
and then Lando might score eight or 10.
23:57
And it's a tiny point swing
23:59
as we then head into the final two races and one sprint.
24:01
So it's not Championship done,
24:04
but Oscar's not shown enough for me to think,
24:06
ah, he's quicker than Lando
24:07
and also might be able to get a big point swing
24:12
Yeah, I'm not sold on Oscar's found anything.
24:17
I know that it's an unrepresentative session
24:21
and I don't think for a second
24:23
we're going to see Lando taking pod position
24:27
However, it has looked like Oscar's still
24:31
not on that pace of Lando, which is a shame.
24:35
It could work either way, really.
24:38
I think you can look at it from two different ways.
24:42
And I know this is a very pessimistic view shock
24:44
on my version who would have thought.
24:46
Welcome back, Tommy.
24:49
But look, Oscar needs to find something
24:53
and quick if he wants to win this title.
24:55
So you could look at it as, well, actually,
24:58
it's good for Lando that McLaren are terrible
25:02
because Oscar's not going to make any inroads.
25:05
You could also look at it in the way that
25:07
if they both don't score and have an absolute shocker,
25:10
it's probably better for Oscar
25:11
that Lando is not extending his lead even more.
25:14
Oscar's only hope is just to hope that they're scoring
25:20
less points that Lando is not extending his lead
25:22
and that is the thing that keeps him closer to Lando
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because unfortunately for Oscar, I know it's only practice
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but it's so difficult to watch
25:33
that the fact that he just doesn't seem to have any pace
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and we've kind of seen a little bit of that again.
25:42
He's not made as many mistakes as Lando has in the session
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but he's also not looked particularly fast
25:50
and I don't see any sign of him kind of getting his mojo back.
25:55
I think it's, unless Oscar can find something, we have to.
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Like Vegas, he has to outscore Lando.
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If he doesn't, then Lando can literally just
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finish ahead of him in Qatar on his world champion.
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Or pretty much that, of course, you have a sprint as well.
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One thing I did want to say about Oscar Piastri
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is I'd love to know his thoughts at the moment
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because one thing that's kind of happened going into this weekend
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is they're now looking at the racing rules again
26:25
over what happened in that incident with Oscar
26:28
and I do wonder how Oscar Piastri feels
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hearing people like Carla Sainz and stuff
26:33
who they've had a bit of history in the past
26:37
basically calling out the stewards saying
26:39
there's no way in a million years
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that's a penalty for Oscar Piastri
26:43
because it could have been a very different race for him
26:46
had he not got that penalty
26:47
and just been able to finish second
26:49
and he's a lot closer in the championship.
26:52
So I do wonder how much that as well
26:54
is just another kind of confidence zapper for Oscar.
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I'm not sure about that one.
27:03
I think that if they do tweak the rules
27:07
then obviously Oscar might feel slightly aggrieved
27:09
but you've got to play to the rules that are in front of you
27:11
and we know what it is which is racing to the apex first
27:14
and if you're not there you'll get a penalty
27:15
if you make contact.
27:17
I don't think it should change Oscar's mindset
27:20
because everybody's playing supposedly by the same rules
27:22
and so that's what he has to do.
27:25
But obviously there are a lot of things
27:28
that are working against Oscar at the moment
27:32
but the key thing here is
27:33
he just doesn't have the speed that Lando does.
27:36
So let's see if he can send it tomorrow
27:40
because he's going to have to.
27:41
We'll be live on Twitch and YouTube
27:43
unless I've perished with my illness
27:46
but fingers crossed I will be live tomorrow
27:50
to enjoy qualifying at the very early hour of the morning.
27:54
Tommy what are your final thoughts please?
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My final thoughts are well done
27:59
by making it through.
28:01
Yeah any other job I'll tell them sick right now.
28:05
You know I made the commute of 15 seconds up the stairs
28:08
and turned up but yeah I apologise if it sounds
28:13
absolutely horrendous from my side
28:14
it feels very nasally but tomorrow is a new day
28:18
I've eaten a thousand pieces of fruit at 4.30 in the morning
28:22
I don't know what's happening with my body right now
28:24
but we will be there no matter what
28:27
we love Formula One we love you guys
28:30
and yeah that is that is all.
28:32
Also as well worth mentioning
28:34
we've been nominated for the Autosport International Awards
28:40
not International Autosport
28:41
Autosport is the car thing
28:42
the Autosport Awards is just the Autosport Awards
28:44
where we have been nominated to be Creator of the Year
28:47
which is a new award and you know
28:50
the other award like it's insane to think
28:51
that we've even been nominated for something like that
28:53
because I've grown up with you know
28:55
obviously watching Formula One and the Autosport Awards
28:57
has always been a staple of the sort of end of year thing
29:00
and the drive of the year gets given out and things like that
29:03
now there's Creator of the Year
29:05
I mean you should just call it pleb of the year
29:06
to be honest with you with me and you Tommy around
29:09
but we've been nominated and you can vote to support us
29:14
so we'll be shouting about it a lot
29:15
I'm sure over the next couple of weeks to remind you all
29:18
but if you want to vote for us it would be amazing
29:22
it would literally mean the world
29:24
if we were to win something like that
29:26
so I'm sure we'll put a link in the description
29:28
and things like that
29:29
so there you go a final little thought and note from me
29:32
we will see you tomorrow lots of love
29:35
Charlotte Clair's winning it all
29:37
and he will heal me even if his gearbox
29:41
is probably how I feel at the moment
29:44
no medication will do more to you
29:46
than if Charlotte Clair gets P1 tomorrow
29:49
oh yeah yeah it doesn't matter what illness I have
29:51
oh I'm so back see you tomorrow
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