Reaction to United States GP sprint qualifying

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy live.

We are in person. I am in Tommy's room right now. It has taken us three hours to get back

from Austin the track itself to get back to downtown Austin where we're staying.

And we have been trying to get back as quickly as possible to record our reaction. So apologies

that it's a little bit delayed. This is what happens, Tommy, when we go outside and have some fun.

I know. How dare we? And yeah, it was a long trip back, little bit jet-lagged, but...

Little bit. I'm on my last legs, bro. I am. I'm cooked.

We might get some sass and opinions, so it might be fun.

I think this could be a good one. So let's begin before we even get into

sprint qualifying with I guess the chatter that was going on prior to all the shenanigans of this

weekend and that was of course McLaren and repercussion gate. So wow, that is one of the

ways this noise I've ever heard come out of your mouth. And I've heard some strange opinions from

you. So to get everybody up to speed, if you've missed it, I don't know how you would

have because it's all over social media, but the whole chat about repercussions after

Lando Norris had a wheel bang with Oscar Piastri and we've spoken about it and

we understood Oscar's viewpoint on it, didn't we? In Singapore and the fact that he felt

aggrieved because papaya rules means you're not allowed to touch a teammate and they touched

and then there was no swap. So therefore not fair and we've already spoken about how bad

fairness can be when you try and level it all out. Well, of course, everything was about that

in the interviews in the run-up to this weekend and apparently Lando is going to have repercussions

or the way it's been phrased by Lando, it sounded like there either is going to be repercussions.

He even said there's going to be repercussions for the rest of the season, which I read that as

if something like that happens again, there will be repercussions at some point during

the season rather than he is now disadvantaged for the rest of the season.

Yeah, I think people jumped on it immediately and thought that Lando now has to

you know, creating wild theories of like, Lando now must give Oscar

preferential treatment in every single situation. I don't think it's that at all.

I think it's very much McLaren doing their usual thing of trying to look like show themselves

in the best possible light. And we've had essentially two weeks of this whole narrative

of like McLaren of a favoring Lando over Oscar. This is really bad, you know,

all the press, all the memes, everything about it. And in my opinion, a very easy way to

basically get rid of all that heat and flip that narrative a little bit is for just Lando to come

out and say, yeah, there's been repercussions, but it's kind of like, but if there has,

it's kind of why didn't it happen at Singapore? It seems just a bit of a flaky way and it's

also really annoying because it's just like, just get on with it. It was a racing incident.

It's so just so ridiculous. I'm so bored of this chat. They're fighting for a world

championship. And there's repercussions this repercussions that no, you can't race your

teammate. Yes, but like, why don't they just say that we've won the constructors race, just

race like this literally what everybody thinks they collide. It doesn't matter now.

Really? Like, does it? No, well, I mean, I know they want to get the points and I guess

for like, you know, the sponsors and everything like they want to want to win the race, but

just let them race now for the end. Like there's only a few races to go. That's not going to

happen. We would love to see it in an ideal world, but it also makes for some interesting

discussions about what on the fairness. It's a weirdly like fascinating yet annoying

championship fight because it is literally so different to one I've ever seen in Formula

1. And I don't necessarily think it's for the right reason. No, I don't like it personally.

But I don't, I don't either. But it's something to talk about for sure.

Question from P1Petra member Thima. What do you think the consequences Piazzari was referring

to in an interview? And will it impact either the sprint or race this weekend? I don't think

it's as, I don't think it's a case of like, Lando will have to give Oscar a place back or

Lando will need to give him a slipstream in qualifying. Or I just don't see it as that at

all. Even though Oscar suggested, this is why I just find it so boring. I just want to talk

about the racing on action. But Oscar was speaking about the fact that the fact Lando has admitted

fault in some way, which is so bizarre because they claimed after the Singapore

Grand Prix that it was fine. So like, it's so weird. I am of the viewpoint that firstly,

I think McLaren should have just literally ignored any of these questions and just not got the drivers

to even talk about repercussions. But yeah, we discussed it internally moving on. But they've

opened a little bit of a can of worms with this one. But I don't think it's really going to

amount to anything because they will always go back to. And what we've already seen this

year is that every single incident is unique. And they can't, there isn't going to be a

like for like situation. There's not going to be another Singapore wheel bang where Lando was

avoiding contact with Max for us to happen. Everything is so different. Yeah, you're right.

I don't think there is going to be this set rule. Now it's just going to be basically like

it could it could be a case of, you know, internally they've said, if that happens

again, we will swap back. But the chances of that happening in exactly the same situation

again is so rare that it will just be a case by case basis. And surely as the championship

nears to a close, surely the drivers are just going to say F off. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway,

let's should we talk about some actual Sprint qualifying? Oh, go on then. Q1 or SQ1, I should

say the bottom five were Bearman, Colopinto, Sonoda, Ocon and Bortoletto. Let's get into

a question from P1P, remember Zingy 13. Why was the queuing at the end of SQ1 so bad today? It's

been a while since there's been such a gaggle of teams and drivers leaving it late and then

fighting to reach the line in time. Will this lead to a rule change to try and stop it happening

again in the future? I think the only change that needs to happen is people need to get

out the pits earlier and realise that on paper or on the computers and everything that they've

got on the pit wall, it's go out as late as possible. But when all 20 cars are trying to do the same

thing or in particular six cars that they were doing all at the same time, you're going to

leave less time and it felt almost like they forgot that it was SQ1 and instead of a Q1,

where there's obviously a little bit more time and they all just left it so late and I know

in theory that you're going out as late as possible gives you better track conditions

but if you can't even set a lap it's just absolutely farcical to end up in that situation

and it's far too risky. So I just think that it was embarrassing to watch and I don't think

it's Formula One's fault in any way or the format's fault. It's the team's fault for just

plenty of other people managed to set laps and get on with it and teams just left it too late.

Yeah, they don't want to go out too early because the track is not in its best condition

but I also think there is a factor and I will say that myself and Tommy obviously at the

track today so we missed things we had to watch on a screen which was muted. We

couldn't hear any commentary so there are pieces that I'm sure we slightly miss when we're at the

track but my gauge is also that there's always shenanigans in the pits, there's always drivers

just slowing down, stopping, waiting for cars to be 20 car links ahead of them before they then

move and I think this is just the nature of those two things coming together where the

drivers are trying to get a gap with everyone and it's chaos. And the gentleman's agreement

all goes out the window when you're basically racing to the line as we saw with Lawson and

Sonoda. Yeah, I mean so many of them missed the line or were completely ruined laps before they'd

even begun. So that was chaos, both Hasses out in SQ1, Bearman just narrowly missing out in P16,

Colopinto out as well and then Yuki Sonoda obviously the big, I was going to say talking

point, is it a talking point anymore? Not really but it's still something to worth saying

because his teammate's literally on pole position but he was of course one of those drivers just

in the mix of cars that he just shouldn't be, even involved with that. He's got enough struggles

as it is. Why is Red Bull even getting involved with or getting him, putting him in that situation?

Yeah, I know. It's really bizarre to leave it that late and it just didn't make any sense and

Yuki was struggling anyway I think. It wasn't a case of like he was way at the top. I think

before all the chaos he was about 14th anyway so I think it wasn't, I'd be amazed if he'd

have got through to like SQ3 with the struggles he was having but obviously 18th is really,

really bad. Speaking of Yuki Sonoda, P1 Petri remember one Mingi, we know that Red

Bull prioritises Max but their neglect of Yuki is appalling. Should Yuki sign with Aston

and Honda as third driver for 2026? I mean that's probably the best that Yuki can hope for is reserve

role in some team, which is obviously a sad thing for all Yuki fans and Yuki himself

but can you expect anything else with this current sort of run of form that he's having in Red

Bull? He's not able to show any of the potential and the promise that we saw in VCarb

where he's going to sign. I don't think that's even in his sights at the moment right? He's

going to fight for his life to try and get a seat for next year and that absolutely should be the

only option in his head right now. A reserve driver role is something he can sort at the last

minute if necessary so for me I don't think he should be setting his sights on that because

that almost admits defeat before we've got to the end of the season. Yeah true he's not

going to admit that he's out of Red Bull even though I'm still very much convinced he is

and it's a shame to see but I just don't see how it turns around from here. I can't see him

being at Red Bull next year or even getting the demotion back to VCarb I think sadly for him

and his time's up and I do think that it's unfair because he is a better driver than

he's being able to show in the second Red Bull seat but unfortunately that's just the

nature of Formula One and so much of it can be right place, right time and he is in

the wrong place right now. He certainly is. Let's go to SQ2 then where the five out were

Antonelli, Hajar, Gasly, Stroll and Lawson, of course Kimi Antonelli missed out by 0.006 of a

second but did make a pretty big error snatching I think it was his front left brake which of

course you know he lost far more than six thousands of a second which would have meant Hamilton

would have gone out in Q2. We will get on to Ferrari because I've been loading up a little

I just want to share some emotions and feelings about how it was as a Ferrari fan as a Charle

Clair fan watching qualifying in person but back to Antonelli you know it's slightly disappointing

Mercedes don't have the the raw pace to challenge right at the front but obviously Russell was able

to make it through to Q3 but again it's the sprint it's not really that deep with Antonelli

I think as long as he bounces back for the main main quali he'll be okay.

Yeah definitely it's it's such a weird session SQ2 because all these drivers that have gone out I

guess you know Antonelli should be should be higher up but they're probably looking at it thinking like

oh at least it's the sprint quali because unfortunately yeah it is and I'm sure you know

we could do this all day and I'll save it for sprint chat tomorrow but there's definitely like

a situation here where it just thinks like well what's the point for these runners because

only the top eight gets points it's very impossible to overtake in these current regulations without

pits particularly without pit stops or anything and different tyres so yeah it's just kind of like

I would be absolutely amazed if any of these drivers get get a point because just not

going to happen is it? Unlikely Antonelli maybe you know it's not give up before we've even got

into the sprint it's this is Kota my guy. Another driver to speak about was Liam Lawson who I think

was absolutely within his rights to be complaining about Charles Leclerc around the penultimate

corner it wasn't an absolute slam dunk impeding but there was a little bit of dawdling going on

from Charles Leclerc which you know with a little bit of dirty air which we've spoken

about you know before haven't we with drivers even literally the last time out in Singapore with

with Verstappen and Lando it's not within it's not like breaking the rules but it's definitely impeding

to a certain degree and of course Lawson then ran wide extended he wouldn't have made it through

I think he went to 11th with his time as he went over if my memory serves me correctly but

I still think he was right to feel aggrieved with the situation that he was having to

well he experienced during his lap. Yeah I don't think they had the pace to

get through potentially but it was an annoying situation and just one of those moments where

you could see just how much dirty air as well makes a makes a difference even when the car

you know it wasn't a case of like oh my god it's been completely blocked and

Charles should get a penalty it was just one of those moments where yeah a bit too close

to the car in front so I understand his frustrations. Lance Stroll just a solid little P14 nothing really

to write home now. Now Gasly I will say look P13 I don't think he got really any sort of

plaudits for that but I think he should in some ways because that is like when we thought the

salver was the luck that when it was the worst car and then Holkenberg or whatever would you

know pop it in a position that it didn't belong I think Gasly's done a pretty good job especially

considering they have one practice session that was slightly taken away from them as well

a little bit that time because of Carlos Sainz's issue but for Gasly to do that maybe it worked

in their favor that they kind of were like this is the dustbin let's just chuck it out there and

see what happens. Yeah how far Alpine have fallen that we're sort of like applauding a

13th in a SQ2 but that is how bad it's got. It really has so that's pretty much SQ2 done

Holkenberg was flying in SQ2 and spoiler alert he flew in Q3 as well let's head to it. The top 10

for tomorrow's sprint race is Verstappen, Norris, Piastri, Holkenberg, Russell, Alonzo, Sainz,

Hamilton, Albon and Leclerc. P1 Patriot member Lex Wakeman Verstappen isn't going to do this

right? Right? Yeah it's an interesting one because he's obviously got pole position again

it's now I still am on this this thought process that it's too little too late.

What percent are you telling me? Four percent now. Oh well you were three before so we are

loading. Exactly and it is it is frustrating in a weird way because all I can think about

is I wish there was like eight races to go not not six because it is going to be a big ask.

I wouldn't I wouldn't be and I know I'm the pessimistic Max van all the time anyway but I

wouldn't be shouting from the rooftops because it is a sprint race and it's going to be such

minimal points. He needs to deliver that again in the in the main qualifying because that's

where you get you know a massive point because Piastri will get on to him later is looking

kind of worryingly off the pace from from from that but even even if Piastri is nowhere near

the top two he's only going to lose a couple of points so because of the sprint format so

for Verstappen yes his form is amazing but I still just feel like it's

unfortunately like a little bit too late in the fight and he's definitely got a chance to do it

but it's it's it's too too much he's winning it all Tommy and you need to just understand that

you know as two Max fans on the podcast now you just need to really sort of just enjoy what you're

about to witness in the next six races three sprints as well right you know this isn't just 10

point swings and six races you've also got three sprints where that is 24 points in total

Tommy eight times three and anything can happen and also I want to combat very quickly sorry

Tommy your pessimistic view on like oh well you know he has to do it you know tomorrow

as well he's already done it like the fact that we're at Austin which I was like maybe McLaren

will have an edge again they haven't I think if we go to Qatar as well obviously a little

bit later on in the season then again like Red Boa there and they've been good at medium speed

corners um it's he's he's winning the lot Tommy that's basically what I'm trying to say to

you um he needs that McLaren incident though they they need it they need a he's had one

yeah exactly and Papyrus is at an absolute limit right now so the stars are aligning

we did walk uh on our on our long journey back um to to this hotel we did walk past uh tattoo

parlor and I said that um if the if the McLaren's do collide on Sunday and Max wins and takes

25 points out of it probably start prepping the tattoo because then I would very much feel like

it's on but he needs he needs like a massive swing again really doesn't he he does I'm just

trying to now think of maths on the top of my head you know if you did have that McLaren

incident hypothetically uh obviously this is the sprint we're talking about but the main thing

you know we're into the 30 odd points then if he wins every race it doesn't matter if they

even finish second but and then they're and then he might not even need to win or we need

to stop dreaming um because people can't believe that I've now started to root for Max

what's happened but um I'll let you know how I'm feeling about Ferrari very shortly indeed

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p1 patreon member alan enderpay has oska's momentum gone tomi you alluded to it ever

so slightly with the pastry looking off the pace oska said after quali as well that it was a

scruffy lap he just couldn't really put it all together i i am feeling like there is i mean it's

hard to say right because singapore oska was ahead of lando until he got barged out of the way and

yes he looked a little bit slower in in racetrack but had that little wheel bang not happened i

think oska has a very good chance of beating lando in singapore do we then say that his

momentum's gone i think it's unfair to say that i don't think he's in the mud i don't

think he's washed perhaps back who has dented his confidence ever so slightly knowing that if he

does put a foot wrong a massive point swing can happen but that being said if lando wins every

race from here to the end of the season or even the majority of them he's probably going to be

champion um so back to the point do i think his momentum's gone i think the the the sort of

iron sort of sorry there was it um ice man iron iron man oska and i'm so tired and so jet

lagged it's ridiculous um i just feel like maybe that's gone but that's probably just a narrative

within fans is that something that lando or max thinks about no uh but i there are sort of

chinks in the armor for sure and i think oska you know if you look back to last year that the end

of the season was a struggle for him last year as well in terms of pace so maybe it's just

tracks he doesn't like it as well i i'm going to repeat kind of what i said at the end of

the last race podcast where i said it's not complete panic stations he's completely you know

throwing the title because it's definitely not but if i was an oska piastri fan i'd be getting

pretty nervous actually about it and it's funny how and we've and this is reflected by

this question and the two questions that we've just had now is max there's all this talk about

max the step and can can he do this and i know it's i know it's an unpopular opinion because

people completely write him off but i i really do think lando could very easily win this championship

and i'm starting to think more and more that he may well do because he doesn't have a massive

points um gap to to kind of catch up on with with piastri and since baku lando is chipping away

every single race at that lead and it's coming down again and he yeah he doesn't have like 60

points to overturn it's what like 22 was it it's 22 so it's much much less and i don't think

oska's form's like completely um gone and he's in is in the mud but having you know three races

in a row where lando's taken um points out of oska's lead and now to go into a sprint qualifying

session and him be three tenths off off lando off is off pole and and two tenths off lando

um it is it is concerned it is concerning because um i think the start of the season

i think piastri just had had you know the measure of lando completely and almost like every

race he was he was going in just doing a fantastic job but it does feel like the momentum's maybe

swing swinging a bit towards lando now for sure i think you also have to give lando his um commendations

don't you because as much as we think oh oska's throwing at oska might be feeling the pressure

of the championship it could well just be that lando is doing a better job and really starting

to feel at one with the car again because he has struggled at times this year so yeah it's

it's going to be a fascinating one uh i think if we get to sort of under 20 points again uh

coming out of this weekend then again it's uh it's very much looking at the moment like lando

could close the gap let's move away from mclaren now and head to sauber gavin curly 90 asks how

good was the hulk to get fourth very very good very good indeed um he just looked absolutely on

it um all day really i don't know what what's gone on today because bortoletto was you know

unlucky in qualifying but then he had a lap deleted for for track limits as well and so it's

probably not reflective of his of his pace but that being said hulkemberg has just looked

really really strong and i i don't think it's necessarily that sauber are suddenly like

really really quick this weekend i just think hulkemberg is an absolutely brilliant job

and when he got second in fp1 it was kind of like oh okay that's cool but you know it's not

representative like it's it's him maybe on a low fuel run or whatever i don't think would have possibly

thought maybe even top top eight or something um so for him to get fourth is absolutely

unbelievable like what a performance and yeah top top ferrari engine wow okay um i was about to

say come on towing do you remember when he was sat there q3 was starting and i said i smell a hulk

top five did i did i not say that you did say that i did say that i did say that a broken clock is

right twice a day uh but yes hulkemberg um as you say he was on it the entire day it wasn't a

stroke of luck and i think that's the beauty of the sprint format as well less practice can

allow for things like this to happen where a team and a driver can just get a set up right that

they feel good in the car and then you don't have the the teams that you would expect to

maybe uh be in that top 10 the v carbs i think is is one scalp uh from this quali session and

that's what i like to see is that slight unpredictability um and yeah hulk brilliant the first time he's

gotten to the top 10 in qualifying the entire year and it's uh in sprint quali it's a well done

hulk hopefully he can score some points tomorrow be one picture remember mickey b how much worse

can it get for ferrari from here look i think i actually got to my end with this now uh it was

quite frankly depressing uh watching ferrari today uh they were on the back foot scraping through

every single session yes they both got through to sq3 whoop d do i do not watch ferrari and

charle claire to scrape through every quali session they built a car for this year that promised big

things they were so close to winning the constructors last year and i'm watching charle claire 20th

in free practice because he's had gearbox issues and he was having a lot of trouble with the car

and it's just frankly not good enough it's and it's been an absolute disaster of a season

it's been a year since charle claire last one of course an amazing time last year when when he pulled

off that that brilliant win but they have looked apart from once or twice this year just so lackluster

uh it's it's hard to watch you know people my dad even messaged me uh when when charle just scraped

through to sq3 he's like oh so close to a heartbroken son and my dad i am so far gone

if charle was knocked out in sq2 i couldn't really care because it's it's at that point now where i'm

like but we're not fighting for anything okay if charle gets through he qualified 10th i'm like

what are we doing here like we're being outqualified by a salber that's up in fourth and this is

ferrari yeah it's it's so true it's so true i mean leclan nearly got knocked out in sq1 if

there hadn't have been the kind of all those cars together and they'd have actually got their

laps in i think charle would have been out it was it was that bad and you know before we were obviously

watching at the track and before the session they actually played a replay of last year's race

some some highlights and what an insane thing a thing to think about that you know this time last

year charle claire's just won won the grand paris ferraria looking at going for the constructors

title and i think at this point kind of towards the end of the season i think charle claire

had scored as many points in the kind of final few races as max the stappen and landon orris

and you think okay going into the the new season surely you know ferrari have got a great chance

here and instead first forward a year later and they're barely making it through into you

know they're behind williams who everyone was saying you know carla science has been demoted to them

they're behind williams and they're not even the fastest ferrari ancient cars it is an absolute

joke and you know i can i can sit here and be smug and say oh i said that why why did they

change that their car but it has to be it has to be spoken about like why on earth going into

one one year before a new regulation change when you had a car that on its day could be the best

the best car on the grid completely changed the whole thing to me it's just absolutely insane

and they've brought specs of that last year's car onto the car for this year at certain

tracks because they've clearly gone wow actually that last year's car was was actually good let's

go back to that and and i'm concerned as to what 2026 and beyond will bring if they have put

a hell of a lot of resource and we've had all these talks about charl saying he's not even confident

about 2026 and stuff now it's just it's not like we're cooked we're cooked chat we really are um okay

let's get into another question eddie from edin why did misades send russell out early in sq3 again

when it worked so badly in miami now i'm going to sound like a massive hypocrite here because

in right at the start of this podcast i was saying why why team's messing about going out

to the end um because you know you just need to get a lap in but that being said when there's only

10 cars in the session you don't need to do that it makes sense it makes sense when you know 20 cars

on track but 10 car 10 10 cars on track you're very rarely going to get traffic and i'd also argue

that this is not a track like even miami like if that you know that was the case or a singapore

or something where a red flag is off there's so much runoff around that you you're very unlikely

there's going to be an incident and red flag so you're not really gaining anything by going out so

early so very very surprising you know it's what it's at the end of the day it's one place in

the sprint i think russell was even if you know gone out last he's going to be fourth

potentially um so it's one one position so it's not that deep but still an odd choice from

from back yeah it was not a choice it felt like the the first three that went out and

set a lap that it was almost like they were trying to put in another lap it felt that early in the

session uh when holkenberg went provisional pole past russell we're like why have they gone out so

early but yeah as you say realistically i don't think it's much to read into it's not a disaster

for russell but i'm sure he will be questioning it uh to the team and finally i think it's worth

mentioning first also fernando along to do a very good job uh i'm surprised you'd

haven't spoken about or said his name i was going to say the entire podcast and of course carlos

signs um a fellow spaniard who missed a little bit of i say a little bit i think he missed half

of free practice one um with with an issue with his car and uh easily chucks it in sq3 and and

out qualifies albonne i mean that's a pretty good job yeah it's really great to see because i

think carlos is finding his grief now it seems and we said the whole time in his struggles

that it you know we know he's a better driver than this and it kept going on and on and on and it

went on far far like way longer than i thought it would um you know i thought it would maybe

i only take him a few races and we got to goodness knows how many races and he was still getting

knocked out quite early and qualifying and going what this is not the carlos we know um

but something has has changed and he's found his confidence again and um yeah he's doing

doing a brilliant job so well done to carlos and well done to williams for a double sq3 appearance

and that is it we are done we are dusted i cannot wait for my head to hit the pillow in my room

not your room tell me what are your final thoughts final thoughts are that um just looking forward

to the sprint tomorrow and i'm sure there'll be i i think there'll be a little bit of a

sprint ramp coming tomorrow because unless unless it provides the the greatest race uh we need to

we need to have some we need to talk about the sprint um it's probably also worth mentioning if you

want to come and see myself and tommy live then you can at the at&t garage at distribution hall

in downtown austin i believe it's two p.m that we're doing our live podcast there it's free

entry so if you're not going to the race i'm sorry into the quali and obviously the sprint

race then uh come down to that uh you can come and see us live there's a q and a as well uh so it'll

be a lot of fun um and that's it we are done and we will see you actually as well we're going to be

live streaming tomorrow so as much as we're in austin we will be live on twitch and youtube

fingers crossed that we can figure out all the logistics so i promised you something that

might not be able to be delivered but i but yeah just pray just pray we are trying so hard honestly

okay right see you soon bye

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